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u/Masaryk-Shuko · 4 pointsr/MLPdrawingschool

Practice and repetition will be the best thing to do and you already have a stylization sense which I see you're working towards and that is also a good foundation to build on. There are three things I'd like to touch on below:

1) You're already familiar with the first on under-sketching and construction. While mimicking the finished product and understanding through that is good seeking to construct from the ground up. This will also be important and help through the basic shapes and how they intersect for the original sketch and lining. ECM also touched on this so I won't spend any more time on this point, but definitely this will be a vital baseline to work with and it seems you're already developing this.

2) This second point is actually a recommendation that Tony Fleecs (MLP comic book artist) gave me at the last convention I was able to make and I'd definitely recommend it to you. If you don't already have it, take a look at the book, Little Pony Drawing Book: How to Draw and Create Magical Friends. This is a good baseline to start with and covers many of the initial points of drawing MLP art with areas that can be used in traditional and digital. It isn't a complex guide, but it is a good foundational build starting with shapes construction and skeletal/muscle anatomy and eventually building to emotions and scenery development. There are PDF and book versions available from multiple sources. I've added a second one that is also a great read and development tool I'd recommend in tandem to the first. Links are below:

-- A) Little Pony Drawing Book: How to Draw and Create Magical Friends - Good start for a foundation and a good baseline. Plenty of sellers, but mostly based in PDF or Canada

-- B) My Little Pony: Art is Magic! - Made by the MLP comic artists and a great resourse. Plenty of sellers for this one

3) One thing I'd also recommend is to take a look at MLP and horse movement guides. These will help you develop movement and momentum as well as perspective and work at constructing a life rather than just a still. It will definitely help you, especially as you build your styles and worlds. Definitely look for ones detailing body parts as well as full models. Linked a few below for example:

-- A) KP-ShadowSquirrel's Pony Sketches 3 - Fitting this one is from your favorite artist as well

-- B) FimFiction Amateur Artist Group Reference Thread - A lot of great walk and run cycles on this one as well as a number of other great references you can work with

-- C) Trot Cycle Animation from Mannequin - A simple animation with great construction lining

-- D) Animation Running Testing - Get some good frame shots of these animations. Some great references


There are plenty of other great stuff to work with out there, but for points this'll be a decent start. Keep up the practice and always keep having fun.

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u/berrydrunk · 2 pointsr/MLPdrawingschool

EDIT: I had more to say than I thought, and it reads like a crazy man's ramble. Enjoyyyy.

Here are my thoughts. While I like my tablet, I think paper is better. Why? Tactile feedback from the paper, and the grip it has on a drawing instrument, not to mention the ability to instantly see where a line is going. Newer tablets have a more paper-like surface, and you do have the option of taping a piece of paper over the tablet, so maybe it's just the traditional aspect of putting real lines down that gets me. I will not stop using my tablet, because it is a far more intuitive interface for even just coloring, and it is seriously fun to use, and Wacom products are just amazing, but when I'm being Mr. Serious Artist Fancypants, and practicing, that practice I do with charcoal or pencil on newsprint. Consider buying yourself some newsprint. Cheap, for learning/sketching, and you'll still have enough scratch to buy your tablet. You definitely shouldn't just choose digital over traditional. You can, and should do both. WE ARE NOT TRADITIONAL, NOR ARE WE DIGITAL. WE ARE ... THE MODERN.

I also think I prefer actual ink to digital when working with comics, for instance. There's just more emotion and movement in your lines, no matter how much you can control brush dynamics in PS. Plus, inking is zen-like once you get down to business. I've never felt so entranced by drawing than when I was inking.

TABLETS! Always go for a medium size and larger. Usually about 6 inches by 8 inches, or thereabouts. I am working on a small one, and it works, but I'm just waiting for my 6 x 11 to get here. Keep in mind that when going increasingly bigger, you must use more of your arm to cover the tablet. If you prefer drawing with your wrist, stick to a medium-sized tablet. If you're working with two monitors all the time, you may want a larger tablet so the drawing surface is divided. If you've traditionally used a lot of arm movement, as many painters have, consider going bigger. There is a 9 x 12 inch (bigger than a piece of A4 paper!) Intuos3, and they go for about $250 on Amazon and eBay.

The Bamboos work well, especially if you're not looking to drop a lot of money on your first tablet (which is a good choice, imo), and my only gripe about them is re: the drawing surface. Older Wacoms have a plastic sheet that lays on top of the active surface, so you don't scratch it and/or wear it away. The Bamboo does not, and that's not even a side effect of it being the lower end in Wacom's lineup. Even the Intuos line dropped the sheet, and I think it's due to the new more paper-like drawing surface.

The Bamboo you've selected is a small size, and I am fairly certain you will not be happy with it in the long run. Just too small of a drawing area, especially for those times you're zoomed in and you want a smooth, sweeping stroke to lay down a clean a line as possible. By the way, you may not be able to see them, but there are four little corners etched into the tablet which outline the active area/drawing space. The active space is 3.6 x 5.8 inches. It is a tablet meant more for writing than drawing, in other words.

I recommend this one:

The active area is about 6 x 8 inches, so you have a much broader surface to draw on, and it's still pretty cheap (as tablets go) at $110. You will enjoy the experience a hell of a lot more, I can guarantee it.

u/thebestwes · 2 pointsr/MLPdrawingschool

This is only marginally related, but I want to jump in here to point out that James Gurney (the author of that article) is crazy awesome and if you like to paint you should absolutely pick up a copy of his book Color and Light. It's very well done and easy to understand, and I wish I had had it when I first started out.

Now that that's out of the way, I really like the humanization in the ways the ponies eat. It's made very clear that they're herbivores who eat flowers and things, but they make them into sandwiches etc. instead of grazing. That said, I do like the whole spectrum of anthropomorphization from "human versions" of the characters to even relatively realistic ponies.

u/mynameischumpy · 2 pointsr/MLPdrawingschool

>I still don't understand how to make something "look trippy."

I suppose that was an oddish thing to ask of. I think it ganders an explanation. First step to working with colour is reading up on it. Purplekeckleon has a good guide on this subject. Or you could read some books on them. Colour is a difficult thing to cover. (and should be spelled colour)

Going back to keckleon, she plays around with colour a lot. example 1 [textures and colour] ( 2: more colour

I don't really have an exact explanation, about how you should use colour, but I suppose the best way to learn is to play around with it and see what works for you. As for texture, I can't say I understand it well enough to explain it. [](/ppnervous "Throw me a line here, viw!") What I understand is texture is the simulation of the feel of a surface, ie. grass, rock, wood. In your case it would likely mean the fur of on celestia or the shine on her tiara/horn. Basically getting the tiny details down.

>Am I making sense with all this?

No worries, you're making yourself pretty clear.

u/ECM · 2 pointsr/MLPdrawingschool

Dream-like's an interesting way to describe Forkas, I like it. I'm not too familiar with Goya's work, but I can kinda see what you mean. Apparently he studied in China for a few years, giving a very interesting mix of Eastern and Western styles.

And lol I swear I can link correctly. I meant this book. He sounds all round like an amazing man.

u/KrazyTheFox · 5 pointsr/MLPdrawingschool

Tablet Name: Intuos3 (8" x 6")

Manufacturer: Wacom

Price: $200+ used (you may find it cheaper; that was just a quick search), $450+ new (don't buy this new), prices in USD.

Size: 13.6 x 0.5 x 10.3 inches (8" x 6" active area); 4 pounds

Features: 8 express keys (4 on each side), 2 touch strips (1 on each side), 1,024 levels of pressure sensitivity, 5080 lines per inch.

Accessories: Pen, pen holder, mouse, felt nib, spring nib, replacement plastic nibs.

Comments: I've had this tablet for several years and it's served me well when drawing or photo editing. The surface is smooth and easy to draw on, although the active area is ever so slightly reduced for widescreen monitors (and this has to be adjusted in the driver settings). The different pen tips provide a more traditional feel for mediums other than the pencil, but I've always preferred the basic plastic nib. Works great in Photoshop and Corel Painter without any extra setup. Plug it in, install the drivers, and draw away. This is a fairly old model and I would recommend against buying it for more than $150-$200. If you're going higher than that, you might as well pick up an Intuos4 instead.

Website: Intuos Site, Amazon Page

User: /u/KrazyTheFox

u/viwrastupr · 2 pointsr/MLPdrawingschool

>You have no idea.

I have every idea. Everyone goes through this in art. Every. One. There is a wonderful book out there called Art & Fear which goes over... Art and Fear. It is short, an easy read, and really quite helpful for learning how we approach art and what this does and the role fear plays. If you've got a library card or $10 I really recommend it.

It does you no good to try and get things perfect the very first time. They won't be. Accept mistakes as a foundation for the future. Look at the undersketch guide and play around with seeking marks out. A clean piece of paper means nothing as far as learning art goes.

u/random2821 · 2 pointsr/MLPdrawingschool

While I don't think jumping straight to digital (especially with an iPad) is the best way to learn to draw, you seem pretty reluctant to use anything else, so I will say this: You absolutely need a stylus with pressure sensitivity, it will make drawing much easier. You mentioned wanting something to ease workflow, but using an iPad without a pressure sensitive stylus is not the way that can be achieved. Sure it may be fine a rough sketch, but anything beyond that will be very difficult because of how you will have to manually adjust the size and density of the brush.

Also, as I said before, an iPad is probably not the best way to learn to draw. It doesn't have a very high LPI touch resolution, even a $79 dollar Wacom pen tablet has a higher LPI. However, you said accuracy isn't a big deal and you don't want to use a PC, so if you want to keep using an iPad, that's your choice.

Really, I think pencil and paper are the best way to go when you are learning. If paper having "no undo" worries you because pencil doesn't erase cleanly, then get this. It has pencils that leave marks much lighter than a normal no. 2 pencil allowing very clean erasing when sketching, and has pencils that leave darker marks than no. 2 pencils, which is good for final linework. Plus, the different shades of pencil make shading your drawing much easier.

>I prefer that others don't tell me what to do, preaching their personal opinions as undisputed facts, leaving little room for interpretation and adjustment to one's preferences.

While nobody here is going to physically force you do anything, people may indeed tell you what do, as that is the point of constructive criticism/critique. It would be poor etiquette to simply criticize someone's work without offering advice or telling them how they can improve upon it. If you don't want someone telling you how to make your work better, and would rather do it on your own, but would still like to know what is wrong with your drawing, then maybe that it is something you should mention in the comments of your post.

Anyway, I hope this was helpful.

u/CallerNumber4 · 3 pointsr/MLPdrawingschool

Her spine and legs are pretty ramrod stiff. I'd recommend dedicating time into gesture drawing and really trying to capture the force and weight of living subjects.

I recommend these 2 books on the topic. 1 2 They will provide a lot of good info but paid books route isn't the most practicla option for most. Draw with Jazza, Sycra and Sinix are some youtube channels I recommend watching for tutorials.

u/Kyderra · 2 pointsr/MLPdrawingschool

I keep going back to the Wacom Tablet Pen.

sketching on a Tablet takes a lot of time to get use too, I mainly use it to outline.

You can take a photo or scan in your physical drawing / doodle and start to outline it really nice. The difference is that you need to make single sweeps to get the best type of lines.

u/ApplejackSmack · 4 pointsr/MLPdrawingschool

If we're talking about books about comics I must mention that Scott McCloud has another book: Making Comics (It's not as great as Understanding Comics, while I'd have to own Understanding, Making is more of a checkout from the library once sort of book) and then there are the books by legendary cartoonist Will Eisner: here's the first one

Sorry to go off topic but I love all those books soooooo much! Had to give them a mention!

u/[deleted] · 2 pointsr/MLPdrawingschool

Another great resource on light is James Gourney's book, worth every penny.

u/Rasheedity · 2 pointsr/MLPdrawingschool

It's a work in progress. I have been doodling bugs for a couple of days before I even attempted a perspective version. I also had a good book for beginners about drawing cars, Draw Cars, by Dough DuBosque.

u/ThatWhiteMexican · 2 pointsr/MLPdrawingschool

Here's an example of what you could do with SAI, a Wacom drawing tablet, and 5-10 minutes. If you have the money, you could get a basic Wacom Bamboo Splash Pen Tablet. I would definitely recommend one especially over a mouse.

u/ShadowDash1901 · 1 pointr/MLPdrawingschool

I am not sure if I am using too large of a pen. I used pens that made lines .4 mm wide. The think strokes were doing the same stroke multiple times to try to make a bolder line, and to try to eliminate errors. (I had a hard time with the boundaries of black to color, because black would often go over the color.

I think what you said about line quality was correct. I need to remember simpler and more confident lines.

Anyway here is a link to the pens I used:

u/dispatchrabbi · 1 pointr/MLPdrawingschool

They are good sources of protein! I bring up shrimp - and lobster too - because they are essentially insects from under the water. (Sorry if this ruins shrimp for you.) And anything tastes good fried.

I just got this excellent cookbook and I am slowly going to work my way through it, honing my basic skills. There is nothing I love so much as cooking, though I hate doing dishes after.

EDIT: So eat something! There's gotta be something around for you to snack on, right?

u/spearstuff · 1 pointr/MLPdrawingschool

The tablet comes with the pen ;)


What's in the box:

A. Graphic tablet(with usb cable)

B. Battery Pen

C. Pen Stand (4 Pen tip inside)

D. Driver CD (User Manual inside)

E.User Manual


Also you don't have to buy the tablet directly from Huion. They also sell it on Amazon and Ebay