(Part 4) Top products from r/chastity

> I don't ever want anyone touching my penis besides me.

Does this mean that you still wish to masturbate in private and achieve orgasm through penile stimulation? When you are having sex with a partner, are you still interested in achieving orgasm in some other way, so long as it is not through penile stimulation?

You may have better luck finding kindred spirits on /r/CumFromAnal. I see lots of comments over there about how it is the "best" way to cum or the "only" way to cum. Some who post are gay, some are straight, some are trans, some are cisgendered, some are caged, and some are not. The focus over there is not on tease and denial but on orgasming in a preferred manner. I remember a blog I followed for awhile by a gay guy who was into chastity and whose ultimate goal was to cum only when his boyfriend was fucking him. I can't immediately think of an example of a straight cisgendered individual expressing the same desire but I'm sure it's out there.

I am a cisgendered bisexual male, and I would say that my favorite parts of physical intimacy with my wife are the ones that do not involve my penis, but I am by no means averse to her touching it.

The closest thing I personally have experienced to what you are describing is occasional fantasies about having a penectomy. I have tried to find good erotica on this subject but mostly what comes up when I search for it are stories about emasculation. I have no interest in loosing my balls because I don't want my sex drive to be affected and because I enjoy ballbusting too much. I have read some accounts by survivors of penile cancer describing how they are able to achieve orgasm and maintain sexual intimacy with their partners after a penectomy, and I found these accounts very erotic. Sometimes I have this fantasy where I will have to have a penectomy for medical reasons, and everyone around me: family, doctors, nurses, feel so sorry for me and are awed by my stoic acceptance of the situation. But secretly I'm excited, because I know that, moving forward, my penis will be "out of the equation" as you say while masturbating or having sex with my wife. I like to imagine what routines we will settle on, wether it will involve cupping my balls or stimulating my nipples or tickling my earlobes or massaging my prostate or rubbing the base of whatever stub might remain from my shaft or some combination of the above.

I first learned to masturbate by lying on my stomach and humping my mattress, and I still do it this way on occasion. When I do this, I like to put on tight briefs while I'm still soft with my penis pointing down and resting between my balls. This makes it so that I stay semi-soft even when I start to get aroused, and it's easier to apply rocking pressure to the middle and base of my shaft. The orgasms I get from this method feel different, and I enjoy doing this to add variety to my masturbation sessions, but do not use this method exclusively.

My ears and the back of my neck are very erogenous zones for me. One of my very favorite things is for my wife to spoon me and just talk normally about her day with her lips a half inch away from my neck. The variations in her breath on the back of my neck as she talks drives me wild with minimal effort on her part. The occasional ear nibble in this position is enough to make me moan and whimper.

I would highly recommend reading Emily Nagoski's Come as You Are while you continue your exploration. It's written by a female sex researcher primarily with a female audience in mind, but it taught me a lot about my sexuality as a man. Her message throughout the book is that you are normal. No matter what your genitals look like, no matter what you want in bed, no matter how your body reacts to various stimuli and contexts, no matter how different your experience of sexuality seems to be from other people you know and other partners you've had, you are normal.

At some point in this journey, you may decide you want to identify as a transwoman, and that's OK. At some point in this journey, you may decide you want to identify as a cisgendered male but that you want to tell your sexual partners that under no circumstances do you ever want them to touch your penis. That's also OK. At at some point on this journey you may oscillate back and forth between these two options or other options you have not yet even considered. Spoiler alert: that's OK as well.

>Nearly any vendor that sells chastity devices also sells the keyholder plastic locks, they work fine for devices that secure with a small luggage lock. These vendors also typically send a handful of those with your device.
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>https://www.amazon.com/Keyholder-Numbered-Plastic-Chastity-Locks/dp/B00Y8V5OD0
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>Like u/Hyora indicated, you can also get the tamper-evident zip-ties with serial numbers on them
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>That said, "locks are for honest people", so, figure out how to be the most honest you can be, for you and anyone else that you are involving with this... Those seals can be used on the device itself, OR you can use it to seal the actual key away. I personally prefer the solid nature of an actual padlock. consider this, as well as if you find yourself in a device with an internal lock that you cannot replace with a seal... You can take a piece of tubing and notch one end so the head of the key can fit just down inside that end, then drill/poke a hole through the resulting 'flaps' at the same point where the keyring hole is in the key, then run the seal through it. Like this:
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>https://tarassextoys.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/image073.jpg
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>This is a very easy thing to DIY with a piece of old garden hose or anything that can support the key and a hole through it. Keep it simple, right? I personally use this for my emergency key.. Now then, what to do with the other key... Well, obviously the hottest and most exciting place to keep that is in your girlfriend/wife/keyholder's control, like as a necklace pendant or whatever... Another option is to purchase a combination style realtor key box. You can find these at most any hardware store for about $25 or online for even cheaper. I use this:
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>https://www.amazon.com/Lion-Locks-1500-Storage-Combination/dp/B00HHE4MOM/?th=1
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>I've got a few of them as I use them for more than just a chastity key! Anyway, every time you secure your key, change the combo. With desire and practice, you can do it without looking at the dials, take a picture of them without 'looking' and upload it to a image hiding site or send it to someone for safe keeping... Just be sure to delete it from your camera/phone/computer once you're confident it's in safe hands. A site I use for solo 'play' for chastity or other self-bondage keys is https://keyholder.r307.com/ but there are chastity-specific sites that you can involve other's and even eventually trust someone there to be your 'keyholder'... Of the many out there, I favor Emlalock.com but there are others as well.
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>On a different note, you mention that you are seeing a girl that is 'okay with it and into it'. If this is true, you are far ahead of many others that don't have that luxury. Explore and exploit her interests! If she really is keen on this, you can have her have her own emlalock account OR just to things 'for real'... If you two do commit and she's really into this, a show of faith/seriousness would be to have her buy a lock, put one key in a sealed tube or envelope or whatever for emergencies, then using a key box, have her set the combo and note it or take a picture of the combo.. Then when she's willing to 'return your key', she either opens the lock or gives you the combo. She can either let you have your freedom until she resets the combo, or can have a seal in there with your key until she can reset it for you...
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>Just some ideas, hopefully this helps?
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>NOTE: how are they checked? "Verification", either by posting a picture or if your 'keyholder'/girlfriend requests, snap a picture of the sealed cage/key in tube and send it to her?

You can make it effectively solid, which will make it a lot more comfortable on your skin, especially if you want to wear for a while. Look for a product called instamorph. It's basically just little plastic beads that melt when put in hot water.

Melt a bunch of it and roll it into a cylinder about the diameter of a pencil. This way you can easily remelt it if necessary. Also put your ring in hot water so that it warms up a bit. Once both are good and hot, work the instamorph liberally into the groove; you want to have it spilling a little out of the groove. Be sure to push plastic into any air gaps.

Do one side, then melt more plastic and do the other side. Then put the whole thing in cold water for a while to cool.

All that's left now is to sand away the excess plastic and then polish it smooth. Start with a coarse grit, like 60 or 80, and get it pretty close to the shape you want. Then just use finer and finer grits to do your successive shaping and smoothing. A pack of different fine grits like this should be pretty good for what you need.

A few other thoughts:

• Be sure to round the edges slightly.
  
• Lay the sand paper on a flat surface and move the ring against the paper to get the front and back really flat and consistent.
  
• Wrap some sand paper around something round to do the inside of the ring.
  
• If your cage came with extra rings that you don't think you'd ever use, you can practice before committing to modifying the one that fits.
  
  I did this modification to my ring and it was like a whole different product. I couldn't go more than a day or so before my skin got pressed into the groove and became really tender. Now with a little lotion I don't have any problems down there from the ring.

Devices I have worn, but are not reviewed because they are not a PA secured device:

CB-6000 http://cb-x.com/cb_6000_details.html - split in half. Don't get this one.

Birdcage https://www.amazon.com/Master-Bird-Chastity-Device-Medium/dp/B004GF9YS4 - actually, not bad for a little play. If you're curious, this is a half decent starting device (especially because it's so cheap).

BON4 and BON4L https://www.bon4.com/en/4-bon4-silicone-chastity-device.html - can be pulled off entirely while "locked" on without much effort.

Master Series, plastic, urethral spout https://www.amazon.com/Master-Captive-Confinement-Chastity-Urethral/dp/B00B5L1VE2/ref=sr_1_18_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1481007588&sr=1-18&refinements=p_4%3AMaster+Series - pretty fun for a short session

All of these were fun for short term play, but none are valuable for long term chastity.

Finally, Denying Thumper has extremely comprehensive reviews of 12 different devices here:

https://denyingthumper.com/chastity-devices/

Iodine is really only painful on an open wound, on whole skin is should be ok. But BZK wipes would be the alternate choice. The bottom line is that none of these things are going to feel great if they hit mucus membranes. So yeah, you may have to man up a bit. Try the BZK though.

Get yourself some Cranberry pills and take them every day. They really do help prevent the UTI's to begin with....

I honestly don't have much experience with long term wear, so I'm afraid I'm venturing into the realm of speculation here. The idea of something being in my urethra that long doesn't actually appeal to me to much. (Says the guy with a 4 gauge PA ring sticking out of his urethra.) I love how exquisitely sensitive my urethra is, and am terrified that I'll loose sensitivity with long term wear. That being said, take some alcohol wipes, or BZK wipes with you. Wipe down everything you can reach every time you go pee and I'd guess you're likely to be OK. Honestly I don't have a clue though, so if you go through with it, I'd love some anecdotal.

> How long after piercing should I wait before trying the device?

It took me six months. Why so long? Because the gauge you pierce at is not the same as the device. I pierced at 10 gauge, and my piercer told me to wait 10 weeks till I could stretch. Then I stretched to 8 gauge. Four weeks later I was able to stretch to 6 gauge. Four weeks after that was the earliest I could start wearing a device.

> Does it matter that I'm not circumcised?

In most cases no, it does not matter at all. I'm not circumcised. In some cases, the triangle of skin that connects from the bottom of your penis to the foreskin is wide enough that the PA will have to be a bit off center, but only a few people would be considered a bad candidate for PA piercing.

Many people report that they have to sit to pee after getting a PA but those who have foreskin to cover the PA hole don't have to worry about this issue. That's a win for the uncircumcised group.

> Any suggestion how I should choose my device?

I'd start off with a cheap PA-5000 because you can order it in three different sizes. (The link there is for the 1 - 1/8" size) Once you know your size well enough you can upgrade to a custom metal device.

> What gauge piercing do I need?

Most people recommend a minimum size of 6 gauge, because any smaller has a tendency to have a "cheese slicer" effect and in very rare cases could result in a meatotomy.

> How long can I go without a piercing in before it closes up?

That depends on how big of gauge you have sized it to. An 8 or 10 may close up entirely after six months. A 6 or bigger probably will never close entirely but will shrink some if it doesn't have jewelry in it. I once left my 6 gauge jewelry out over night and had a hard time getting it back in the next morning. I was able to get my old 8 gauge in, and then later with a hot shower and soap I finally got the 6 to slip back in.

> Any advice about maintenance when I have the device on (cleaning, comfort etc.), as I want this long term?

I don't do much if anything different than I ever did. I make sure to push the device around while in the shower so water can get in all around the penis inside the tube. It always helps to have a detachable shower head on a hose so you can get up close and direct the water to the right spot.

When you start using the device, take it slow. No hurries. Put it on for a few hours than take it off before it starts to irritate your piercing. Put it on for a few hours the next day, and so on, slowly increasing the number of hours each day. Once you get to the point where you are wearing it all day, put it on just before bed, and sleep with it. Then take it off first thing in the morning for a few hours. After a few days you can finally go a full 24 hours. Just keep at it and you will slowly adjust to longer times. If you take it off for several days in a row you may end up loosing progress.

Don't buy from Extreme Restraints if this is what you're looking at:

http://www.amazon.com/Master-Jail-House-Chastity-Device/dp/B004GFFAM8/ref=sr_1_6?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1411921812&sr=1-6

http://www.amazon.com/Male-Chastity-Device-House-Snake/dp/B00C3O1JGA/ref=sr_1_59?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1411921864&sr=1-59

http://www.amazon.com/Chastity-Available-Products-discrete-INVOICES/dp/B00KKGWMMI/ref=sr_1_90?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1411921883&sr=1-90

http://www.amazon.com/Fetish-Fantasy-Extreme-Chastity-Belt/dp/B00BDQ0ETC/ref=sr_1_2?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1411921812&sr=1-2

(mix it up a bit) http://www.amazon.com/Master-Captus-Stainless-Locking-Chastity/dp/B00DE5HEH0/ref=sr_1_14?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1411921812&sr=1-14


Seriously. 140 before tax and shipping on XR. Nothing over 70 on amazon. Possible to get under 40 on amazon. and its the exact same thing. The only difference is one of them says "Master Steel" oooooo aaaaahhhhh.... If you're wanting to get metal and quality in a ball trap device, Mature Metal, Steelworxx, SteelWerksExtreme or Lori's Tube ( chastitytube.com ) are about the best you'll get without going to an actual belt form like TollyBoy or (if you have some serious coin to throw around, nothing beats) Latowski's work...period.

https://www.amazon.com/YiFeng-Biosourced-Resin-Chastity-Device/dp/B0755SDCKR?th=1&psc=1

Love it. Tricky to put on but comfortable. I’ve worn it for 50+ days taking off for an hour every 6 days to shave and deep clean. Also shower every day.
I like it a lot, especially after settling in on the right size cock ring. They include four sized rings.

You can’t beat $32 for trying it out. Ive been told it s a knockoff of the Evotion 8

https://www.evotionwearables.com/shop
$300+ , zoinks. Ill take knockoff for now.

You might consider buying a few cheap $25 units from Amazon.. The base ring is the hardest part of buying a HT. Easy enough to buy a cheap knock off to see how it works. For $20 you can get a knockoff with all sizes of rings and see if it fits well before committing to the real thing.

The CB Curve has been the best for me.

I ordered it from [amazon](Sportsheets Divine Diva Plus Size Strap On https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001UJS37C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_At5IAbRGNSRPX)

She will see the number on the plastic lock and every lock has another number. If you open it, it can't be locked again. Maybe you can see the locks better here

Doesn't need to be anything special

Kidde AccessPoint 001859... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000GTOUG0?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

here's the bottoms
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0094VP8VC/
and here's the stockings
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000766V0K

The bra was from Amazon too but they don't sell it anymore

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M68CIJS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
I got this one - the small size obviously

It's this Doc Johnson plug. I also have the extra large, which is a formidable amount larger.

YiFeng Male Biosourced Resin... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0755SDCKR?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

If you have a sewing machine sew it up between two layers of fabric. Or there is this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009066D4C?m=A1JNAWRIWJKTKC&ref_=v_sp_widget_detail_page

I've found that for the most part anythinf but metal isn't good for long term. You need it to be open so hair can flow and water can evaporate. That decreases the chances of smells bacteria and water irritation.
Qfew boys have found this very comfortable
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VYQYP8S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_CHjIDbNWH1PD6

This is a cheap silicone knockoff device, and doesn't even look like the real CB3000.

These are shitty devices that tend to run too big, rather than too small. Silicone devices are a pain in the ass, as they're uncomfortable, insecure, and difficult to maintain. They are toys, not intended for long-term wear.