Reddit reviews Qisan Mechanical Keyboard Gaming Keyboard Brown Switch 100% Full Size 108 Keys GATERON Switch with White Backlight Case White Magicforce

If you don't mind Gateron instead of Cherry (they're arguably nicer anyway) Magicforce makes a Gateron Brown full size board for $70 https://smile.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK?sa-no-redirect=1

It's on Amazon as the Magicforce 108.

I love the Magicforce 68, but I'm just not a fan of the way the plastic bottom wraps up to form a lip on this full-size brother. They should've kept the floating keycap style.

If you want RGB Lighting: Coolermaster Masterkeys Pro L: I don't know what Switch type you want, but it comes in 3 switch flavors, Cherry Blue, Red, and Brown.

If you don't really care about lighting Ducky: Anything from Ducky is great for non RGB Lighting, and you can generally find them with Any switch that is Cherry. I didn't specify any keyboard in the search so you could figure out which one you might like best.

If you want cheap + good switches Magicforce 108 Gat Blues and Magicforce 108 Gat Browns will be your best bet. Gateron actually makes some really nice Cherry knock-off switches, and so I'd recommend Gateron Switch keyboards.

My personal preference in these boards would be the Masterkeys Pro L, it'l be the next board I upgrade to after I find the money to buy it. My Corsair Strafe works really nicely, but... it restricts me in future Keycap buying endeavours.

RK9000V2 for $79.99

iKBC F108

MagicForce 108

And none of these are on sale, but the Rosewill is regularly under $70 and is my current work board.

At that price point I would absolutely look to buy a used keyboard, maybe a nice vintage one. You're actually going to be stuck with a gamer look at this price and most fullsize boards come in clicky switches.

If you can stretch the budget I'd get something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK/ref=sr_1_14?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1518016930&sr=1-14&keywords=brown+switch+keyboard

It will have better switches and a cleaner look with the LEDs off, as well as having the option for backlight if it's a particularly gloom day.

Nixeus Moda Pro w/ Kailh Browns $65 on Amazon

MagicForce Crystal 108 w/ Gateron Browns $70 on Amazon

• Magicforce 68.
  
  Excellent budget option, pretty damn nice looking, comes with shockingly good ABS keycaps (they feel great, not very thick to be expected but they're damn nice for the price), comes in either Cherry MX, Gateron, Kailh or Outemu switch variants (obviously, price varies), has 3 different colour options (black, gold and silver/white) and has a couple of different LED options (typically from what I can tell, the Cherry MX/Gateron variants have either solid white or solid blue LEDs, whereas the Kailh/Outemu variants come with blue LEDs but orange WASD/arrowkeys. Has a removable cable too.
  
  
  
  
  
• 'Generic' Kailh TKL
  
  
  I say generic because there's a lot of companies taking the reference of this board and rebranding it, just changing the logo etc. It's got decent build quality, cheap as hell in terms of price, Outemu switches from what I can tell, and well, it's cheap. Overall I'd choose the Magicforce over this any day, but it's an option of course.
  
  
  
  Those are the main 2 I'd consider, the fullsize Magicforce is also a decent option though it's a hair below $70.

Kailh switches are generally considered to be lower quality than Cherry or Gateron. The keyboard looks like it has a standard bottom row, so that opens up your keycap opportunities, but keycaps are rarely below $20 from any manufacturer.

This keyboard is from a more reputable brand, and has Gateron Browns. It also comes with white keycaps by default - but the case is white too. It's also in a similar price range.

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK

Not Cherry, but most people prefer Gaterons. They're basically the same thing but a little smoother.

This is a good option and is what I have https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1492276676&sr=1-1&keywords=magicforce+gateron+brown

magicforce 108 is a nice option.

Qisan/Magicforce Full size white backlit, but brown switches and $70

Maybe the Magicforce 108? Magicforce 68 is a popular budget option here, so the 108 should be good as well. It has 108 keys though, so you won't be able to cover all the keys.

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1506642470&sr=8-4

perhaps? I'm sure you can get cheaper Kailh switch keyboards but from what I heard Gateron is superior. Often times its even said to be better than Cherry switches.

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1482952620&sr=8-2&keywords=Gateron+brown

Can't beat the price, decent build quality, and gateron brown > cherry brown. Might be able to find in in black.

Every board has a metal plate so no worries there. For $100 and fullsized you could try the big Magicforce. Not 100% sure of it's quality, but having owned the smaller Magicforce 68, I think it was ok for the price. Magicforce is touted around here as being a pretty good fullsized board.

You can also check out the Masterkeys Pro L which is much more widely known and advertised. If you stretch your budget a bit more, you could have the RGB version but that's a bit pricey.

Any switches are good for typing considering people game and type on rubberdomes. Just figure out what you like. (Either in person, which I recommend, by going to a Bestbuy/ Microcenter or buy a switch tester, which is pricey and doesn't give you the full feeling.)

It hasn't been asked here much, as neither of those are mechanical keyboards.

They'll work fine with a newer Mac, but... I have an A1048 right here. It's not that nice to type on, and gathers dirt like mad. Filthiest keyboard around, and sucks to open up to clean inside.

Since you're here, here's a mech that has Apple like styling, or this one's very popular around here too, I'd reccomend looking at either of them first.

Magicforce 108 with Gateron browns. Also comes in a version with blues if you want to keep the click

This Magicforce 108?

Magicforce 108 Key with GATERON Browns white non-RGB backlit $69.99 (better thank Kaihl or Outemu or unspecified switches but a compromise on RGB)

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK

Sacrifice quality? Not necessarily, let me link you some of the keyboards i was looking at. You would lose rgb but gain real mechanical switches not rubber dome switch with mechanical like feel.

Logitech g610 white led cherry mx red

Logitech g410 tenkeyless rgb romger g

Corsair k63 tenkkeyless red led cherry mx red

Qisan white led gateron browns
Ive had the tenkeyless version of this keyboard for 2 years now. Still going strong but as my dads keyboard now.

REFURBISHED: Razer Blackwidow x rgb doesnt list the switch but its mostly likely razer green Dont know if you care about refurbished or not but i listed one just in case you dont

Neither

CoolerMaster Trigger Z

MagicForce 108

If you can spare $40, this Magicforce 68 is a pretty good keyboard. It's a 60% board, so some of the extra key functions are layered underneath other keys. But it's not super hard to get used to.

If you need a full-size, it's a little bit more at $70.

I personally like gateron brown vs cherry brown for brown switches so check out something like this

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1510760374&sr=8-3&keywords=gateron+brown+keyboard

My understand is that you can also get the gmmk keyboard for around 100 prebuilt with gateron brown switches. The value there is that for a little extra money you get a keyboard that can swap switches which could be useful if you don't like browns or a switch dies on you. While it has a dumb name it looks pretty sleek and the rgb can be fully turned off if you don't like it in a office setting (can also be tuned to one color for a nice backlight). If you are interested in that one I have a referrel code you can use to get the price lower than msrp.

https://www.amazon.com/Qisan-Promotion-Mechanical-Backlight-Magicforce/dp/B01HHTFSIK/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1524094532&sr=1-2&keywords=magicforce+full+size

This has Gateron browns, which are good Cherry clones and won't break the bank.

this one isn't pink but it's white and so pretty! it's my first mechanical keyboard so I can't give you a super detailed review but I like it a lot! it even lets you set up custom lighting so that (for example) only the keys that you use for a particular game light up! I mostly just play league of legends on my computer and it's been great for that!

https://cheapmkbs.blogspot.com/p/cmkb-buying-guide.html

The EagleTec uses pretty crappy switches, which is hard to avoid at that price point. Spend a little more and buy a board with Gateron switches like the Magicforce 108

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01HHTFSIK/

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HHTFSIK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_p9ldBbHHTX6J2

Can you explain why? Also, is this it, and is this the price you expected it to be?

This? https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK#HLCXComparisonWidget_feature_div

Does anyone actually own the Magic Force (Gateron Brown Switch 108 key) keyboard? There don't seem to be many reviews online and I am reluctant to buy it because of that. It looks awesome and I would like some input from an owner. Thanks!

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482782103&sr=8-1&keywords=qisan+108

Yeah, but it's not worth it at that price.

About the switches:

Cherry MX Switches can be divided into two categories (concerning noise):

1. Quiet (linear/tactile): Reds, Browns, Blacks, Clears, Nature-Whites.
   
2. Noisy (clicky): Blues, Greens, Whites.
   
   This Magicforce (linear version, tactile version) is a great choice for new buyers: it's readily available on Amazon in a variety of switches, and it's relatively cheap. I'd recommend you skim over the Wiki (specifically the buyer's guide and common misconceptions), and if you have any more questions feel free to ask :)

Which rosewill keyboard is he using, and what are his complaints with it? A lot of rosewill keyboards are mechs, so if it turns out he doesn't like one switch type, that'd be good to consider before buying a new keyboard.

A magicforce can fit that description pretty well. The keycaps could be replaced with something better but they'd do fine by themselves.

"Gaming keyboards" are overpriced and not built well. I suggest this.

Ive grabbed a few choices that are seemingly in your price range.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1782


https://shop.tesorotec.com/collections/mechanical-gaming-keyboard/products/tesoro-durandal-spectrum-rgb-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-blue


https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK

here are a couple of keyboards he can consider
https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Doubleshot-Velocifire-Illuminated-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01M0QEYR4/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1503772632&sr=1-4&keywords=mx+brown



https://www.amazon.com/Qisan-Keyboard-Mechanical-Backlight-Magicforce/dp/B017N5SH6S/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1503773272&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=magicforce+keyboard&psc=1



https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1503773272&sr=1-5&keywords=magicforce+keyboard



https://www.amazon.com/Azio-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard-MGK1-K/dp/B010M53SLU/ref=sr_1_14?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1503773475&sr=1-14&keywords=mx%2Bbrown&th=1


https://www.amazon.com/DREVO-84-Key-Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlit/dp/B01K4GXJMA/ref=sr_1_8?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1503773591&sr=1-8&keywords=mx+red


https://www.amazon.com/DREVO-Calibur-Bluetooth-Mechanical-Switch-Sliver/dp/B01N6GBIOI/ref=sr_1_12?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1503773616&sr=1-12&keywords=mx%2Bred&th=1

I was browsing through r/MechanicalKeyboards recently, and a few of the threads had people recommending the Magicforce 68?

Here's the fullsized magicforce with browns (Gateron not CherryMX): Amazon

And here's the Magicforce 68 (with Cherry Browns): Amazon

The one thing I don't like about how their shop is set up on Amazon is that each keyboard with a different switch type is it's own product page, so you might have to do a little searching for a different switch type/size.

Also, I have no idea if this is actually a decent board. I was planning on getting one with blacks and trying to out though.

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK Is this what you mean? I only like 104 key boards.

Sounds great so far. I think I found it on Amazon...

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486489327&sr=8-1&keywords=magicforce+108+brown

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK

magicforce

If you can live without the red backlighting then the Magicforce 108 may be worth looking into.

Edit: I guess it would have been wiser to link to this guide for cheap keyboards. It actually has a keyboard that meets your criteria, the Cougar Attack X3. The only potential worry is that it has a very unusual non-standard bottom row.

Well if it doesn't have to be Cherry Brown Here's this link to a very reputable china brand that uses (in my eyes) superior Gateron switches. Still browns and still very nice.

Well the main differences are

| Magicforce | Masterkeys
---|---|---
Switch | Gateron | Cherry
Lighting | White | RGB
Media keys | Dedicated | With Fn modifier
Cable | Non-removable | Removable
Macro keys | With Fn | 4x dedicated
Software | No | Yes
Price | $69.99 | $87.21

I have no idea what kind of switch you want, but I compared browns because I didn't see the magicforce 108 with a different switch option. I also don't know if the masterkeys rebate will work for you if you're in Canada or even if the pricing is the same so that's something you'll have to look up.

Personally I would purchase the masterkeys, but that's mostly because I have a Pro S and I've been really happy with it.

For you, you'll have to see if any of the main differences are selling points for you. If anyone sees any differences I missed please comment.

num pad is a good club to be in; a lot of people swear by them. My first custom build was the [prime_L]
(https://www.primekb.com/collections/keyboards/products/bundle-save) from primekb. It's a smaller form factor than a traditional full size, but packs in everything I needed and then some into the same size as my MF68. I'm really glad I picked it up, it's a wonderful board.

If you're going with a prebuilt, i'm gonna stick with my [Magicforce] (https://smile.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1510117294&sr=8-2-fkmr0&keywords=magicforce+87) recommendation, but the larger board with Gateron browns. It has the num pad you're looking for, back lighting (makes late night gaming sessions far more doable) and lighter tactile switches that aren't as noisy as the blues. There are others out there, but Qisan really does make a great board for the money.

If you want to spend a little bit more, I think the [Vortex ViBE] (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2937) looks fantastic. If I hadn't decided to build the Prime_L, this was the board I had my eye on. I've not used it, but there's a good [review here] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RphNQVOKmgs&t=2s) that Rhinofeed did. Vortex makes some of the best prebuilt boards out there, so you really can't go wrong with their products.

If you decide you want to build something yourself let me know and i'll give you a few more recommendations and pointers.

Maybe the Magicforce 108? I haven't used this particular keyboard but I have the 68 and it's great!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HHTFSIK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_pA-cAb5T28ME7

Alright so if you can swing another $10, get the magicforce 108. That would be the best quality full size with gateron or cherry switches. Here's a link on amazon with gateron browns for $70

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1484594052&sr=8-3&keywords=qisan+gateron+brown

This is always nice for the price.

A little bit more expensive ($70) but worth your consideration:

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HHTFSIK/ref=sr_1_56?srs=7936345011&ie=UTF8&qid=1484269445&sr=8-56