Reddit reviews rolls Phono Preamp, Red (VP29)

Yes it is bad. You can get a used p mount deck off of eBay or goodwill.com for the same price and be happy.

Edit here is an example: http://www.ebay.com/itm/TECHNICS-SL-B200-SEMI-AUTO-BELT-DRIVE-TURNTABLE-JAPAN-1983-TESTED-WORKS-/201697505984?hash=item2ef61bb2c0:g:YpkAAOSwXeJYC47p

And this ifor you don't have a receiver with a phono stage https://www.amazon.com/rolls-VP29-Phono-Preamp/dp/B0002BG2R2

What would be the difference between these Phono Preamps? They all vary in price, and I've seen them all talked about on this sub, and I've researched review sites/videos on Google and YouTube, etc. And I really can't find someone saying one or the other is clearly better. There's just so many preamps I see that are recommended, and I keep asking questions in this thread to get a better idea so that I can purchase one.

Schiit Mani -- http://schiit.com/products/mani

Music Fidelity V90 LPS -- https://www.amazon.com/Musical-Fidelity-V90-LPS-Phono-Preamp/dp/B00E5BY9SO/ref=sr_1_2?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1475180747&sr=1-2&keywords=schiit+mani

Rolls VP29 --https://www.amazon.com/rolls-VP29-Phono-Preamp/dp/B0002BG2R2/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1475183493&sr=8-6&keywords=bellari+phono

Pro-Ject Phono Box MM -- https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Ject-Phono-Box-Preamplifier-Black/dp/B000YEK1AQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1475183640&sr=1-2&keywords=project+phono

Hackerman Bugle 2 -- https://hagerman-audio-labs.myshopify.com/products/bugle2

Pro-Ject Phono-Box S -- https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Ject-Audio-Phono-preamplifier-Silver/dp/B007I961IQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1475184602&sr=8-1&keywords=project+phono+preamp+s

These are all phono preamps that I've seen that are pretty popular on the Internet and on forums, reddit, etc, but I don't know the difference between all of these. If it helps, I just purchased a Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC and I already have Audioengine 5 speakers.

For budget, I'd want to stick between $100 and $200, but I'm willing to go to $250.

The [Rolls VP29] (http://www.amazon.com/Rolls-VP29-Phono-preamplifier/dp/B0002BG2R2) is an affordable, basic preamp. It isn't anything fancy- there are no vacuum tubes housed in chrome or anything, but it is a solid little preamp.

Well they have two different inputs. One is looking like the standard 1/4 jack and the other for mics. You will still need phono level amplification before the speakers (for reasons I don't fully understand, even modern turntable output is lower than the modern input standard on equipment like this and thus a preamp is need).
If you take a look at the Rolls VP29 that should do all the amplification you need with the correct 1/4 output.

With that budget and a simple approach I'd recommend this: http://www.peachtreeaudio.com/nova-refurbished.html. The same focal speakers or bookshelves of your choosing. You would also need a phono preamp since the Nova lacks one. The Nova has a good DAC for connecting computers AppleTV etc.

Something like this is a starter phono pre: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002BG2R2/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1376533781&sr=8-2&pi=SL75

For 300 bucks personally I would go with decent Powered speakers. Make sure you pick up a phono preamp as well if you go this route as opposed to using an amp+passive speakers (which is much more expensive, unless you go used). That's the setup I did, minimalist, clean, decent value, but still relatively cheap. Here's my setup for example...

https://www.amazon.com/rolls-VP29-Phono-Preamp/dp/B0002BG2R2 - Rolls VP29 Phono Preamp

https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1700BT-Bluetooth-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016PATXSI - Edifier R1700BT Powered Speakers with Bluetooth - For the value these sound really awesome. Only downside is there are not great with lots of bass, they flubber. In retrospect I might have gotten something different, but most stuff I listen to isn't bass heavy so I'm not torn over it. I also wanted bluetooth in this room because it's a guest room.

https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Ject-Elemental-Gray-Turntable-Grey/dp/B01CZW826Y?th=1 - Pro-Ject Elemental Turntable - Great value turntable on the low-end if you buy new.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000513O4/ - Tripp Lite Isobar surge protector - Because I'm paranoid about this stuff and these are high end surge protectors that we use at work. They are bulletproof.

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So anyways... for 300 bucks you can pick up the same phono preamp and these...

https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R2000DB-Bluetooth-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B01CDU3IAI

I hear the R2000's don't have the same bass issue that the r1700 does, but they cost a lot more. Edifier is kind of one of the best in value right now, it's "Chi-Fi" good. The hardcore audiophile kiddos are often brand-whores, so take their allegiance with a grain of salt and try to remain objective, read reviews, technical analysis, etc..

https://www.amazon.com/Audioengine-A2-Powered-Speaker-System/

The A2's always get good reviews in this price range, I have no personal experience, but there are recent reviews that show problems with quality control, maybe the company is getting worse?

https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-2017-R-14PM-Powered-Monitor/dp/B075JRF295

A lot of people swear by the Klipsch powered monitors once you get into this price range, but I don't have any personal experience, maybe someone else can chime in, just showing it here because you might want to consider it, read about them more.

https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Signature-S20-Bookshelf/dp/B01LVWWXQG

These are just barely in the price range, definitely consider them, my friend has a Polk setup and he loves it. These seem to get good reviews from hip hop heads too, so the bass response must be good.

It really depend on your musical taste, the room, what kind of setup you are wanting to go with overall and for what purpose though. If you want to be able to handle everything, up the budget, or buy used honestly. If you stay on a small budget and buy new, you are going to have to have compromises. I was wiling to have that compromise, but others may not.

https://smile.amazon.com/Micca-PB42X-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00NXAEPDC/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1521737076&sr=8-10&keywords=powered+speakers

plus

https://smile.amazon.com/rolls-VP29-Phono-Preamp/dp/B0002BG2R2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521737127&sr=8-3&keywords=rolls+preamp

This will get you by until you get the bug and want to start upgrading.

I suggest not getting built in preamp so you can upgrade later.

Preamp suggestions please as I'm going insane over getting something crappy... >.>

Here are 2 that I've seen browsing the reddit:

https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-Microphono-Pp400-Ultra-Compact-Preamp/dp/B000H2BC4E/
https://www.amazon.com/rolls-VP29-Phono-Preamp/dp/B0002BG2R2

My powered speaker system has 3.5mm, so I was thinking of using an RCA to 3.5 (http://bit.ly/2rlrIw5 said I don't lose quality). Opinions on that setup?
Player -> Pre-Amp -> RCAto3.5 -> Powered Speakers

And which of the two preamps or other suggestions? Trying to stick under $75-100 and I'm not audiophile, but I definitely want it to be clear/no hum (as I've heard that in some Amazon reviews of preamps)

Also..Thank you for any help at all!! :)

This is the preamp I recently bought. It's pretty great, and not too bad of an entry level price. Rolls V29

If you want to manage 3-4 inputs, you will be better off getting an AVR. Accessories4less has really good prices and options.

An AVR will let you switch between multiple sources - whether they are HDMI video sources (gaming for example, or Roku) or digital audio sources, or analog audio sources. Besides this, an AVR will also amplify the signal, and also has an inbuilt DAC, so you can hook up passive speakers that are a lot less expensive than powered speakers. For example, you could hook it up to Pioneer BS22 bookshelf speakers for $130, or buy the FS52 floorstanders for $250 a pair (in which case you will not need a separate subwoofer)

Most entry level AVRs will not have a phono preamp. Assuming your TT does not have an inbuilt phono, you will likely need to buy a separate one. You can buy a Rolls VP29 for $50 from Amazon, or if you want to spend more, you could buy Schiit Mani or the Pro-Ject Phono Box - both sell for $130.

AVR plus speakers plus phono - you could still pull this off for under $500 and get decent sound quality. You can also look at used AVRs - they can often be had for half price or less (especially if they are slightly older - as AVRs are all about latest and greatest features - so now, AVRs that do not support 4k will sell for steep discounts). Look at usaudiomart for example.

Probably. The line out from the TT is really low. It needs to be boosted before it goes into an amp. You can try running it without the preamp, but my guess is it will sound like ass and you will have to crank the hell out of it. Fortunately decent preamps are not bank breaking.

This is a good little guy:

http://www.amazon.com/Rolls-VP29-Phono-preamplifier/dp/B0002BG2R2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1410473513&sr=8-1&keywords=rolls+preamp

So if you have that budget of 400 bones, its really what your goal is. 1200 - heavy, hearty, bulletproof, easy to change speeds. Pro Ject - a lot less bells and whistles, elegant, great cartridge.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002BG2R2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

In your budget you will probably be getting a cheap preamp like this but I am not sure if it has a transformer or not.

I just purchased this same set-up (Pro-ject + Audioengine A5+) and think it is an excellent combination. As mentioned previously, you will need a preamp. This is the one I picked up, and I am very happy with the sound. Enjoy! http://www.amazon.com/Rolls-VP29-Phono-preamplifier/dp/B0002BG2R2

You probably need a phono stage/preamp. Which model sony and speakers?

What is a Phono Preamp? | Audio Advice

Inexpensive $50 options are ART DJPREII or Red VP29. Better options are U-Turn Pluto $100, Pro-Ject Phono Box DC $100, NAD Electronics PP 2e refurbished $120, or Schitt Mani B-Stock sale $120 with shipping and taxes

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The pluto gets good reviews, but that's at $90.

I think for $50, this one is decent: https://www.amazon.com/rolls-VP29-Phono-Preamp/dp/B0002BG2R2/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1505448523&sr=8-14&keywords=phono+stage

I'm not an expert on these things, though...hopefully someone else can chime in.

> Never heard of the Bugle2 before (but that one is way over $50 it seems?)

silly me I got fooled by the price of the blank circut board :o


Thanks I'll check it out! I have to admit I have a weakness for stylish audio products is the VP29 worth the extra 20 bucks?

Do you have any suggestions for speakers?

That puts out a phono signal, not a line signal, right? Couldn't tell exactly from the quick googling. All you would need is a phono stage/pre-amp and then you could adapt the 1/8" TRS plug to RCA with a cable. It might even sound alright!

Check Amazon for phono pre amp and get one that fits your bud'...

http://www.amazon.com/3-5mm-Stereo-Female-Y-Cable-6-Inch/dp/B000I23TTE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1452307792&sr=8-1&keywords=headphone+rca+adapter

http://www.amazon.com/rolls-VP29-Phono-Preamp/dp/B0002BG2R2/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1452307834&sr=8-4&keywords=phono+pre+amp

For example

mislim da ti treba ovakvo predpojačalo

So, my current receiver is having issues so I decided to buy something new. I ordered this yesterday,
https://www.amazon.com/Sony-STRDH550-5-2-Channel-Receiver/dp/B00J30GXW2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1520096579&sr=8-3&keywords=5.2+sony

But that does not have Phono inputs... I know, I'm a dumb.
So now I am wondering if I should just buy this to go with it?
https://www.amazon.com/rolls-VP29-Phono-Preamp/dp/B0002BG2R2/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1520096689&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=rolls+vp29

Or just go through the pain of returning it and maybe buying this instead.
https://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-8020-channel-Stereo-Receiver/dp/B00EE18O7W/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1520096789&sr=8-1&keywords=onkyo+tx-8020

What do you guys think?

So if I connect the turntable to this pre-amp

And the connect that to these speakers

I'll be rockin and rollin?

The cheapest most cost effective phono preamp is one by the company Rolls: http://www.amazon.com/Rolls-VP29-Phono-preamplifier/dp/B0002BG2R2

Ok. I saw people in the review section on amazon complaining that it didn't come with a grounding wire so I thought you had to also ground the amp itself. Are these two amps any better than the art? Or is the art the best out of the 3?

rolls VP29 Phono Preamp https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002BG2R2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_11y8yb3Y4E1KC

Behringer Microphono Pp400 Ultra-Compact Phono Preamp https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000H2BC4E/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_53y8ybCKF4Y7K

Edit: What made me second guess the Art was that people complained about hum and that's why I was looking into getting a new pre amp. My current one is a Pyle-999. Even when I have just it plugged into the receiver (and nothing plugged into the Pyle) I have a considerable amount to hum compared to when I witch to an audio source that has nothing plugged into it on the receiver.

There's so many things which could be effecting this, but my guess is that your input isn't being boosted enough. If its just when using the phono you might want to try out something like this as an intermediate boost before your receiver.

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Hello everyone, I’m basically new to the world of audio tech, having been gifted a Crosley Cruiser a few years back (I know, I know), which I’ve been connecting to an altec Lansing life jacket speaker with an RCA to 3.5mm jack cable. Ive now hooked up an old Yamaha home entertainment receiver to a set of Tivoli speakers that I had laying around and plugged the crosley in to that. It’s not great, but it works.

So what this post is about is actually the products I’ve been researching. I want to get a feel for what people have experienced with them. I will list the equipment below, with links. It’s not all the best equipment out there, but I’m on a budget, with Christmas around the corner, and having just graduated college. So not a ton of play money to go around. As much as I love shopping local, I want something more modern and refined than CL or flee market TTs so I think amazon is the way to go, and my budget is sort of flexible seeing as I’ll be buying over time, but 500-600 USD is what I’m expecting

Pro-ject Elemental turntable

Rolls VP29 phono preamp

Kinter K2020a+ amp

Dayton audio B652 speakers

Rolls should be decent for $50

http://www.amazon.com/Rolls-VP29-Phono-preamplifier/dp/B0002BG2R2

You need a phono pre-amp. I built a budget system with this one: https://www.amazon.com/rolls-Phono-Preamp-Red-VP29/dp/B0002BG2R2/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=rolls+Phono+Preamp&qid=1568299801&s=gateway&sr=8-3

Turntable goes to the preamp, and then I had a pair of powered Bose Companion speakers connected to the preamp. Once I upgraded to a cheap A/V receiver, I connected the RCA out from the preamp to an AUX in on the receiver, since the receiver didn't have a phono input.

Get a normal one.


https://www.amazon.com/rolls-Phono-Preamp-Red-VP29/dp/B0002BG2R2/


That should be good enough.

[best cheap solid state]
(https://www.amazon.com/rolls-VP29-Phono-Preamp/dp/B0002BG2R2)


mixed reviews but mine sounds good with upgraded tubes

Thanks! This is the kind of feedback I'm looking for. So I'd be alright with this, or is this too cheap? Rolls VP29 Phono Preamp

Hey I'm hopping on this thread rather than making one of my own, because mine would be titled similarly.

I'm looking to get myself a turntable, but I'd like to use it with my existing equipment, namely a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 and a pair of fairly decent monitors. I'd like to know how things are going to go together before placing any orders. Would somebody confirm for me that I can get the thing playing tunes by putting one of these between the turntable the the focusrite, converting the cables to 1/4" and running 'em into the interface's front-facing inputs (on "line")? This is what I've pieced together in an hour of googling, so I thought I'd just ask directly somewhere. Do I have it right?

Apologies for the hijack!

Unless the turntable has a built in phono preamp (very, very rare), no. Records are made using an Equalization designed to match the physical properties of the medium. You will need a phono preamp.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_equalization

http://www.amazon.com/Rolls-VP29-Phono-preamplifier/dp/B0002BG2R2

I don't really have a budget. I just want good quality, good price. I wanted to get these powered speakers and this preamp. Bonus question, would it be better to get that preamp or to get the Basic with built in preamp? If I get an external one, I can upgrade in the future but how is the preamp important enough to do so?

I did my research ~1 yr. ago, and decided to buy a U-Turn Orbit Basic. I haven't been disappointed. They are considered the best budget TT around unless you get really lucky and find a nice vintage turntable in good condition. The Orbit plays 33 1/2 and 45, can take any cartridge you may want to upgrade to, and costs $179 for the "Basic" (that's what I have, although I did get the cork mat for $20). you are going to need a good budget phono preamp with that though, either opt for the Orbit with the Pluto amp built in (+$70), get the Pluto separate (+$90) or check out the Rolls VP29 ($49) or another from the link. If you already have speaker(s) to plug into, great! If you only have headphones, you'll need a headphone amp. I love my American made Shiit Magni 2 ($99).