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u/swatson87 · 3 pointsr/hometheater

Gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/7N0G8

The end of 2016 brought in some really nice upgrades to my AV setup, including:

TV - Samsung KS8000 65" - Not too much to say about this TV as it's very widely discussed on this subreddit. I scored it with EPP pricing and 10% (doubles to 20%) cash back through discover for around $800 all said and done.

http://www.samsung.com/us/televisions-home-theater/tvs/4k-suhd-tvs/65-class-ks8000-8-series-4k-suhd-tv-2016-model-un65ks8000fxza/

AVR - Yamaha TSR-7810 - This is the Costco version of the Yamaha RX-V781. Purchased new for $464 after a $25 off coupon. Very capable unit for the price.

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/tsr/tsr-7810/

Game Console - Xbox One S - Used for gaming, streaming and as UHD player.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one-s

Front speakers - Axiom M60 V2 - Scored these audiophile grade speakers along with the side surrounds for $400 dollars total on craigslist. Great price for 4 higher end speakers imo.

http://www.axiomaudio.com/m60-floorstanding-speakers

Side Surrounds - Axiom M3ti - Purchased these along with the M60 fronts for $400. A little large for surround speakers, but I figured I may as well use them since I have them.

http://www.axiomaudio.com/m3-bookshelf-speakers

Speaker Stands - Pangea Audio LS300 - I needed 36" speaker stands and these fit the bill. Reasonable stands for the price of $139. I have the columns mass loaded with play sand.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EVNE96C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Speaker Mounts - VideoSecu speaker mounts - Some cheap wall mounts, pretty sturdy and have decent positioning capabilities.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000X9O8SI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Here is the existing gear that I did not upgrade yet but is still being used:

Center Channel - Polk Audio CSi3 - Part of my older entry level stuff. This is the next thing I am looking to upgrade as I'd like to match the center to the fronts. TBH I don't really notice difference in timbre as much as others may.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-JdQDXbhbK4P/p_107CSI3B/Polk-Audio-CSi3-Black-oak-finish.html

Subwoofer - Velodyne CHT-8 - Go ahead, laugh. Yeah it's only an 8" subwoofer but it does the job for now. Provides pretty good LFE for it's size, just doesn't extend very low. I currently live in a rented townhouse and the wall where the TV is is shared with my neighbor. I'm looking to upgrade to a 12" in the future, either SVS or HSU. But most likely won't happen while I'm living here.

http://www.audioreview.com/cat/speakers/subwoofers/velodyne-acoustics/cht-8/prd_286736_2741crx.aspx

Rear surrounds - Polk Audio M10 - These are pretty cheap speakers, but they could be worse. I don't have any plans on upgrading these unless i find a great deal on something used, or if they break.

https://www.amazon.com/polk-audio-m10-bookshelf-cherry-pair/dp/b002bsha66?tag=indifash06-20

Moving forward and comments:

I would like to get a 2 channel amp to power my front speakers to really wake up their full range. If anyone could recommend a good stereo amp that I could hook up to my pre outs that would be great. I have no experience in external amps and am pretty clueless to it honestly.

I know my cable management is not the greatest ,but unfortunately being a rented house there is not too much I can do.

I do realize that my rear soundstage is a little on the cramped side, the Side surrounds are rather close to the couch and so are the rears. I am lucky enough as it is that I got my GF to agree to moving the couch from the wall in the first place. Honestly, even with it being cramped I get a good effect and immersion, so I'm happy.

Subwoofer placement - This isn't really where I want the sub to go, but I did the crawl and it sounded decent here. Having a neighbor sort of forbids me to place it in the front soundstage.

TV is crooked. I have the TV mounted on the cheapest stand ever from Wal-Mart about 5 years ago. Eventually when I'm a homeowner the TV will get a proper wall mount, but this will do for now.

If anyone has any critiques or comments feel free to give me input. I'm always looking for ways to improve my setup.

u/Armsc · 1 pointr/hometheater

Please don't do a Bose system unless you just absolutely love it. I don't find their sound quality/performance to match their price.

In the above reply you mentioned a 5.1 or 7.1 setup. Unless you have the proper room to setup a 7.1 you're better off going with a 5.1 for both easy of setup and cost effectiveness.

Here are some options I would consider.

AVR - (pick one) The heart of the system. I'm going Yamaha because they are very easy to setup and have a really good app to control them.

  • Yamaha RX-V581 $500 or Refurb $350 Great 7.2 AVR with a lot of features. Gives you the option for a zone 2, 7.1 or atmos speakers.

  • Yamaha RX-V481$400 5.1 AVR that includes networking features. Less channels but also less price. If you feel like you won't be expanding in the near future this could be a winner.

    Speakers - (Pick one) These are some packages I would look at. I went with packages to make it easier but honestly there are so many combinations we could sit here all day.

  • KEF - E305 $600 on sale This is a great 5.1 speaker package to get you started. Amazing sound and a very small footprint.

  • DefTech - ProCinema 800 $900 another 5.1 speaker package that has small satellite speakers that are very easy to place around the room.

  • Boston Acoustics - CS2300 5.0 set $200 + SVS PB1000 $500 Another good option for smaller speakers and you're getting a very capable subwoofer too boot. Be careful of sub placement as these speakers cross higher than most.

  • Pioneer - SP-PK52FS $480 + BIC F12 Sub $220 This set gets you towers speakers for the front so you don't have to worry about stands for them. You could get the bookshelf set but I would still upgrade to the F12 as the Pioneer sub is probably too small for your room.

  • Q Acoustics - 3000 Series 5.1 $800 Kind of new to the US but they get great reviews from the UK. Different looking speakers.

    Keep in mind that you'll probably need speaker wire, HDMI cables, and possibly an optical cable depending on your sources.
u/DieselWang · 2 pointsr/hometheater

I definitely recommend getting a different subwoofer; every system I recommend using these Pioneer speakers has left out the subwoofer in favor for another one.

With your budget I would do this.

u/TyGamer125 · 2 pointsr/hometheater

I looked it up and you have dome tweeters so don't get anything with a horns such as Klipsch. However they are from a home theater in a box which generally speaking aren't great. My suggestion is you should get the center now but plan on buying the matching left and right as soon as you can. The issues you could run into with running miss matched from stage (LCR) is timber imbalance where sounds don't have the same volume or pitch so sounds traveling across your front stage could sound like aaaaaaAAAAAAAaaaaaaa. My suggestion is listen to some bookshelf speakers and find ones you like then buy the center that matches them. Here are some options I found on Amazon but going to local shops to listen would be best:

u/Omariscomingyo · 1 pointr/hometheater

For the receiver, in the lower budgets, I'd say go with a Denon. This site is great, I bought my Marantz on it. Condition of it looked brand new and it hasn't had a single problem for the year I've had it.

For speakers, if you want a full 5.1 setup that is pretty good reviewed, Energy 5.1 would fit the bill. They are also pretty small speakers so it seems like they would be great for you.

Another option you can do, is go to your nearest Paradigm or Bowers and Wilkins dealer (most in my area carry both those brands) and listen to their offering of smaller speakers, they are great and are of higher quality than the energy. Other great brands I like are Monitor Audio, Wharfedale, or Aperion (I own a pair of Aperion Versus grand bookshelves). With a company like Aperion, it is nice because you get a 30 day free trial, so just pick out a speaker from them, test them out, and if you don't like them, you have nothing to lose. That is what sold me on them, and I ended up loving my speakers so I kept them.

Almost forgot about the subwoofer, if you go with the energy package, you can also just buy the 5 loud speakers without the sub. For the lower budgets, you can get a BIC America F12, or if you want smaller, Aperion or SVS are great internet-direct brands and you can buy one of their smaller subs. I personally went with SVS for the subwoofers, they have a reputation of making some of the best subs, and I can say the sub I went with kicks ass.

u/helpChars · 1 pointr/hometheater

Great!


Try these settings that Fairchild, a forum member, posted up on AVSforums. He calibrated it using professional tools for a darker room, so it might work for you. Otherwise, perusing/searching the forums should net you some more settings that worked for other people.

Best Buy has excellent deals on the Denon 1613/1713/1913 speakers right now. They’re all on clearance or in excellent condition as open box items. The Denon 1713, for example, I was able to buy for 199 before taxes (amazon still shows it as 378.99).


To check online stock, do the following:


Go to the store locator -> Enter zip/address -> click on the stores that are closest to you within the search results -> for each individual store website, click “Open Box and Clearance Items” on the left side -> Shop this store (in blue) -> Under “Shop Best Buy” (left side pane), click “Audio & MP3” -> Under Narrow your results, choose Denon as your brand.

Hopefully you’ll find some good sales.


Speakers.
I’ve thought about the Pioneer SP BS-22 and the Polk 30s. You really can’t go wrong with either, but you just missed a sale where the Pioneers were going for $70.


Depending on what L/Rs you go with, you’d get the matching center channel from their respective manufacturers.


Subs, for our budget, the consensus seems to be the Bic America F12, but others have stated that a better alternative may be the Polk Audio PSW505.

The gist, I think, was that the Polks would perform better if you listen to a lot of music.

Anyways, that’s where I am with my research. My goal is to save as much money as I can, but to spend when necessary to fulfill my needs. I hope that television works out for you. We’ve loved ours and the calibration went a long way. Happy shopping!

u/avnerd33 · 1 pointr/hometheater

In your shoes i would suggest doing a 2.0 or a 2.1 if you can squeeze a little more juice out of your wallet. Explanation: a 2.0/ 2.1 will give you a far better sound quality with a dedicated amp/receiver and external speakers rather than in all in one sound bar type unit. although you don't crank your system sound quality is important and will be better out of this set up too. And lastly you then have the availability to upgrade and expand your system later on. I know these were posted once but here why.

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-FS52-LR-Designed-standing-Loudspeaker/dp/B008NCD2S4 great price point, great sound quality. I think the rest of this sub would agree these are a fantastic speaker for the price. They are rear ported, the closer to the wall the more low end you will get from them.

http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-S500BT-Receiver-Capability-Bluetooth/dp/B00JR6GJLW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1415645951&sr=8-1&keywords=AVR-S500BT Big fan of denon, they make great receivers starting from the bottom all the way to high end. built in bluetooth, powerful enough to handle a slightly bigger speaker if you want to upgrade later

http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M If you have the money or the want, this is a great subwoofer for the money. Fairly clean, pretty crisp, not real muddy.

u/scottymoze · 3 pointsr/hometheater

Just my two cents, you could do the Best Buy $300 on speakers and like you said get whatever 5.1+ receiver elsewhere. Best Buy will price match Amazon if it's "shipped and sold" by Amazon. So for example you could get the Pioneer towers and center channel for around $300:

Pioneer SP-FS52 Andrew Jones Tower each $110 Amazon (x2 for $220) / $125 Best Buy (x2 for $250)

https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-FS52-Designed-standing-Loudspeaker/dp/B008NCD2S4/

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pioneer-5-1-4-floor-speaker-each-black/5086937.p?skuId=5086937

Pioneer SP-C22 Andrew Jones Center channel $85 Amazon / $95 Best Buy

https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C22-Designed-Channel-Speaker/dp/B008NCD2EI/

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pioneer-dual-4-center-channel-speaker-black/5086891.p?skuId=5086891

Total if you Amazon price match = $305 before tax

EDIT: just be sure to factor in cables/speaker wire to total budget, and make sure everything will fit and has a proper place to be setup. and don't overlook a universal remote if that's an option/need. :)

EDIT 2: OK so this doesn't satisfy the need for surround. So you could throw in cheap surrounds for now as well. Top 100 Amazon satellite speakers, others on here may have cheap suggestions?:

https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Electronics-Satellite-Speakers/zgbs/electronics/3236454011#1

EDIT 3: And here's the matching bookshelf speakers if you wanted to match them up for the surrounds, swap these in front as a cheaper alternative to the towers, or both... for pair $110 Amazon / $125 Best Buy:

https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG/

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pioneer-4-bookshelf-speakers-pair-black/5086955.p?skuId=5086955

u/m1kepro · 2 pointsr/hometheater

I ended up tightening my budget quite a bit on this new home theater, so some of my choices aren't as nice as what I had before, but I'm very happy with what I got in the end. I want to thank everyone who gave me advice in my last post here. It was all very helpful!

I went with a 65" Samsung 120Hz smart TV. I decided against getting the 240Hz because I couldn't see a difference between the two when looking at it, and the 3D makes my wife sick in any case. That saved me almost $500.

For the receiver, I took everyone's advice and opted away from the all-in-one set I'd been looking at. Instead, I got a great price on a Pioneer VSX-824 that I've been very happy with.

I know the Denon reciever is what everyone recommended, and it's what I bought at first, but strangely enough my PS3 didn't work with it. It worked just fine connected to the TV directly, and other devices worked with that HDMI cable and port, but the PS3 just told me to go fuck myself. A quick google search told me that it's a flaw in the way the HDMI handshake works with Denon receivers, so back it went.

I went with Pioneer speakers as well, hooking up a
pair of tower speakers for front left and right, a pair of matching bookshelf speakers for the rear, and the matching center speaker.

The subwoofer will have to wait, for now, but the plan is to purchase the matching subwoofer when we're ready.

Instead of the Harmony Ultimate, which didn't seem to get any good remarks, I opted for the much cheaper Harmony 650, which has made my wife very happy. No more frayed tempers about what button does what on which remote. I'm even buying my parents one for Christmas.

I'm hugely pleased with the upgrade over my previous setup, even if it's not everything it could have been. What do you all think?

u/MaximumEffortt · 4 pointsr/hometheater

If it were me and you really want to upgrade your sound now, but also want to have the ability for a full 5.1 sound later I'd check out craigslist. You can probably find an older 5.1 receiver for under $70. A quick look in my area brought up a few. A few months ago I sold a 12 year old Pioneer that still was great, but I wanted the ability to get music via my network/internet. I sold it for $60. Then I would look for 2 decent book shelf speakers that you would use for fronts now and later use them for rears. These are as low as they go according to camelizer https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-T15-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B002RJLHB8/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1510803743&sr=1-3&keywords=polk+bookshelf+speakers&dpID=31bhM1nV3tL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch Then I'd get a sub https://www.amazon.com/Polk-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer-Single/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1510803898&sr=1-3&keywords=polk+subwoofer&dpID=51JGYWW4N4L&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
That would get you started and would kick the shit out of any 2.1 soundbar. So you'd be looking at $140 for the 2 speakers and sub and then w/e you could find on craigslist for an a/v receiver. If you can stretch your budget to about $300 you could grab this which is certified refurbished https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs510bt/denon-avr-s510bt-5.2-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html
None of this is going to be wireless. IF you can stretch out to $400 you could get this receiver which I really like for the price: https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrx1300w/denon-avr-x1300w-7.2-ch-x-80-watts-networking-a/v-receiver/1.html

Keep in mind you'll have to buy some speaker wire and a crimping/cutting tool. But yeah about $400 will get you a decent setup like Mtown said.
The best way to go about buying home theater equipment is to buy stuff that you'll use later. So if you have a soundbar now, I'd just use it and save up until you have enough for a decent refurbed 5.1 av receiver ~$250 and some bookshelf speakers ~50-100.

If you absolutely need a 2.1 soundbar. I bought a refurbed lg sh4 2.1 for about $130 on amazon. I believe they are more now. It's enough for a small room. I use it for my office and it's decent.

You can probably get better advice about starting up a ht system by searching r/hometheater.

u/ratbuddy · 6 pointsr/hometheater

I drew on your map for the hell of it :P Probably not necessary to do that to give recommendations, but it was fun. Witness!

C9 is a great TV, call it $2k.

I would get two subs. A pair of VTF-2 is fine, but go VTF-3 if you don't want to wonder if you got enough sub. I marked the corners in the image with 1/2/3/4, I'd first try opposing corners and see how that sounds and/or measures. $1150 shipped for the pair of VTF-2, $1750 shipped for the pair of VTF-3. For $600 more you get a pair of 15" subs and no wondering. I say $1750 on the sub category.

I've drawn your setup from the top, so I'll go ahead and tell you what I drew for speakers - it's probably hard to tell from the black rectangles :)

The fronts are a pair of Paradigm Premier 200B bookshelfs on short stands, so they don't look stupid up on that shelf. You might not even need the stands, if the 24" from the shelf gets the tweeters to your ear level. $1k/pair, 20% off right now so $800.

The matching 600C center channel is a BEAST and is also on sale for $800, front stage total $1600. I just can't say enough good things about this lineup, if you have a dealer nearby, go give them a listen.

The surrounds I've shown on swivel mounts turned inwards to face the seating. You can also aim them a bit out into the room for a less direct sound, but I find with modern receivers and decoders, this isn't necessary. I'd suggest a pair of Paradigm Premier 100B, $640 on sale for these, on a set of the sturdy and affordable VideoSecu side clamping mounts, $25.

Tops, again, Paradigm, this time the P65-R in-ceiling speaker. I'm actually suggesting these based on personal use. They are the flattest, best measuring speakers in my system, and never mind the aimable tweeters - these speakers are designed for good, even dispersion, and it's amazing how well they work. Aimable tweeters are there to make up for dispersion and placement shortcomings, and you will have neither if you go with the P-65Rs. Don't pay retail for these, ask the dealer for at least 20% off since you're buying a full set of speakers. If they say no, find another dealer. It's a poorly kept secret that Paradigm very seldom sells for full MSRP. Call it $500 for the pair.

For the receiver, I know people like to suggest buying a refurb from accessories4less, but I've heard too many horror stories about broken equipment and poor support. I'd suggest the X3500h from Crutchfield, a rock solid company that will have your back if anything is wrong with the gear. The receiver itself has plenty of power for my recommended speakers, and has the best version of Audyssey, XT32 - important to get the most out of your subwoofers in particular. The X2600h you mentioned only has Audyssey XT, which is rather inferior to XT 32. $600.

Totals, then, are:

65" LG C9 TV $2000

Paradigm Premier 200B Front L/R $800

Paradigm Premier 600C Center $800

Paradigm Premier 100B Surrounds $665 with mounts

Paradigm Pro P65-R Tops $500

2x Hsu VTF-3 Mk5 Subs $1750

Denon X3500h Receiver $600

Total before cables $7115

($10 subwoofer cables and any decent copper 14 gauge speaker wire are fine)

Now, all that said, I would strongly consider the 77 inch LG C9. You'd still be just under budget, and sitting as far as you will be, the extra size will really help the system come together. The only question is if you have enough vertical space over the center channel speaker. If you do, grab the 77" and don't look back :)

I also disagree on tops/Atmos not being useful if you only do sports and TV. Asides from native Atmos content, receiver upmixing with the Dolby Surround upmixer is really quite awesome. It adds an immersiveness to the sound that you just can't get with a 2d audio setup.

u/sharkamino · 3 pointsr/hometheater

The KEF Q100 $250 closeout at kefdirect.com is sold out. KEF does not have any more. Amazon dropped the price of what they had in stock to match. Now that they are sold out at KEF, the amazon algorithm raised them back up to $550 MSRP. Unless anyone else has any to sell, and I don't think anyone else has them, then I doubt Amazon is going to lower the price again unless they want to close them out.

To me these sound at least as good and maybe better than the Q100s I demoed. Wavecrest Audio HVL-1, order on sale here at Ascend $80 each + shipping.

If going 2.0 without a subwoofer, Philharmonic AAPM $290 + shipping. 14 day in home trial. They have a newly upgraded tweeter and have one of the best low ends of 6.5" speakers in the price range and don't necessarily need a subwoofer for music or right away for home theater.

Others, best with a subwoofer:

Ascend CBM-170 $300 + $30 shipping. Neutral sound with a flat frequency response. Best budget audiophile and home theater speakers I have found and own for 50/50 music and movies under $500. Great highs, mids and lows. Nothing missing, nothing overly accentuated. Much better than the Q100s.

Chane A Series $340 + $25 shipping. Flat planar tweeters.

On sale: Polk Audio Signature S20 $245.

DIY: Classix II MT Bookshelf Speaker Kit with Knock-Down Cabinet $232 a pair. Or Helix Dome MTs.

Receiver:

Budget: Denon AVR-S530BT $160 refurbished 5.2 with HDCP 2.2 and HDMI 2.0B for 4k switching.

Recommended: Denon AVRX1400 $300 refurbished 7.2/5.2.2 with Audyssey MultEQ.

Budget subwoofers: Dayton Sub1200 $140, BIC F12 $200, Bic-Acoustech-PL-200 $300.

Better subwoofers: 10" HSU VTF-1 MK3 is $455 shipped or an open box SVS PB1000 is $420 shipped.12" HSU VTF-2 MK5 $580 shipped on sale. Or a 12" Rythmik LV12F front ported, $550 shipped, when it becomes available in December (currently shown is the older rear ported version).

Guides: How to Set Up a Basic Home Theater System - Lifewire, r/HTBuyingGuides FAQ, How to Set Up Your Home Theater Receiver

Speaker Placement: Stereo Music Listening, Home Theater

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>If I do move to an apartment down the road, would they be too loud even without a sub?

No, just turn down the volume.

>are two speakers such as these really a significant improvement over something like a recent Samsung or Vizio soundbar -- enough to justify the cost differential?

Yes, definitely for home theater, even more so for music.

Also consider a center speaker.

u/shadyinternets · 3 pointsr/hometheater

id recommend you start off with the Andrew Jones Pioneer series. id start with 2.1 and then see if it works well enough, and add a center and rear surrounds later if youre into that, or dont mind spending more up front on a 5.1 setup.

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-FS52-LR-Designed-standing-Loudspeaker/dp/B008NCD2S4/ref=sr_1_2

they arent in stock other than used right now, but i picked up a pair for $70/each a few months ago and they have similar sales pretty frequently i think. for how little they cost, they really do sound great and i like how they look too (if that matters at all). theyre not huge either, pretty reasonably sized for a tower and makes them easier to place.

i dont think there is a lot out there that will sound better for the price. they really are impressive.

for a sub (you want a sub, no, NEED a sub) the dayton audio ones have pretty good reviews and are often recommended for budget setups www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-1200-12-Inch-Subwoofer/dp/B00669L3HS/ref=sr_1_3

i havent heard the sub yet, but will soon as i got one for my sister for xmas... hopefully it is not just hype.

u/brando_1771 · 1 pointr/hometheater

That receiver is a good choice if it meets all your needs. There are certainly better receivers, but those added features don’t matter if you don’t plan to use them.

Bookshelf speakers can be fairly easily mounted. If you’re lucky, the speakers you decide on will have built in wall mounts. This isn’t super common anymore, but there are some. Another option is speaker stands, which are pretty straightforward. Lastly there are lots of speaker wall mounts you can get on amazon. I’ve used these wall mounts for my JBL LSR305 monitors which are pretty heavy and had no issues what so ever. They aren’t the prettiest but they get the job done cheaply.

Your room size is actually very close to mine. I too debated on what size speakers to get. I settled on 5.25” woofer bookshelf speakers and feel these are the smallest I’d go for this room. I think the next size up would be ideal, but if you have a sub you can probably do 5.25” no problem. It seems the Miccas are best served in small applications like offices, bedroom sized room. I can’t speak personally about them, but through my own research this is what I discovered.

u/fatblindkid · 1 pointr/hometheater

Excellent point...and pretty much why I decided on trying to get an AV installer...I'm completed baffled where to put them.

  • I was considering the Polk Aurdio OWM3 in white or the Micca COVO-S compact bookshelves after seeing Zeo's review of them...they seemed like they would potentially could be slipped into an arm of some sort, mounted at G0 or L0, and angled down towards the main viewing area without being too obvious.

  • Then I learned how important it was to be at ear level from a prior post. At the time I was so desperate that I was considering trying to do wireless surrounds as bookshelves that I could just move into place on movie night at positioned marked "Gx and Lx (near the middle of the wall)" since "G0 or L0 (Mounted on the upper wall)" didn't seem very reasonable since it was so off of ear level. I figured that on movie night I could just use a rocketfish setup to slide a surround into position @ Gx or Lx and plug one of them in for a few hours...and maybe keep one on a windowsill (@ Gx) ready to go to make it even easier.


  • Completely confused, I had a local AV installer stop out and they suggested that perhaps mounting at G0-2 or L0-1 may actually be possible. They even thought that a bipole (or even a monopole) would be possible. Ultimately they suggested the Paradigms bipoles listed above.

  • Honestly bipoles or monopoles (Eg Polk Aurdio OWM3 or Micca COVO-S) don't matter too much to me...as unobtrusive as possible would be preferred. Bipoles sound like perhaps they may be better for non-standard seating at a love seat, at the kitchen table watching TV, or just playing some music for the holidays...but I'm certainly open to suggestions!

  • I was considering asking for an alternate surround from what the AV installer, but quite honestly, I don't know how to best compare them with my current layout, equipment and future plans. Could a ceiling speaker be added in or sliding a wireless speaker into Gx or Lx in the next 5-10 years? I have no idea...it sounds great in theory, but I have no clue what would be recommended or most flexible. But if there is an installer that can help out and provide guidance, Im more than willing to go with whatever they recommend
u/crazy_goat · 4 pointsr/hometheater

I have refurbished / reconditioned or otherwise repaired just about every component in my theater. The KEF speakers are all same era and generation, plus or minus a few years.

Front Channels: KEF 103/4 Reference speakers - owner replaced foam surrounds on the internal push/pull woofers - and I refurbished the ferrofluid in the tweeters. $175 off craigslist

Center Channel: NOS (new old stock) KEF Model 100 - found on craigslist. Someone found it in their garage, sitting new in box for 20 years. Refurbished the tweeter (ferrofluid replacement). $60 off craigslist.

Surround Channels: KEF C55 speakers that I found at Goodwill for $20. Complete cleanup - ferrofluid treatment of tweeters. Great condition otherwise.

Rear Channel: KEF Model 90 "center channel" speaker - bought this before I found the Model 100. Roughly the same speaker, but smaller tweeter than the model 100. Tweeter refurbed, cleaned up inside and out. I went with a 6.1 configuration because my room wouldn't benefit much from 7.1 - and the window placement made that difficult. Mixing 7.1 down to 6.1 doesn't change much. $40 off Craigslist.

Subwoofer: PA-120 Premier Acoustics 12'' Subwoofer had this sub for 8 years now, and love it to pieces. Very punchy, very powerful, very affordable. Weighs a metric ton - and customer service was top notch. (Amp malfunctioned after 6 years - got a new one from them free of charge).

Surround AV Receiver: Marantz SR6008 receiver I bought for $200 on ebay because it was 'for parts/not working.' The HDMI1 output (there are two) was burned out. Bought a new HDMI board from Marantz for a hundred bucks and the thing is good as new.

Speaker Mounts: The left C55 surround and rear channel are on custom made speaker mounts - the rear is half custom - mounted to one of the speaker mounts I got from Amazon.

Projection Screen: Custom 105'' Screen Frame and made from a canibalized Da-Lite screen I got for free from work. (was hiding in the plenum when we purchased our office space.

Projector: Benq HT1075 - bought new, because it's already so cost effective. Found it on sale at Frys for $699 a year ago. Very happy with this little projector.

Theater/Home Automation: Home Assistant running on an iPad 3 in the theater room. The iPad was sitting in a drawer, not in use for at least a year, and found an OEM apple dock for $5 on ebay for when it's not in use. I can control my Smart Things devices (z-wave dimmer) - MiLight LED strips behind the screen, in the EXIT light, and the bulbs in the uplight/spotlights in the room, I also integrated Broadlink RM2 support for controlling cheap 433mhz outlet switches for the air purifier, popcorn machine, and whatever else I need to control.

Movie Posters: Marketing department had a bunch of these frames in storage from an old PR campaign. Tore out the foamcore inserts, found high res posters, and ordered them on this silk-like fabric directly from China for $9 a pop. They look incredible up close, almost lithograph-like.

RGB Lighting: Generic RGB Strips I bought for $5 a pop on price mistake with Milight RGB controllers. Milight 9W RGBW bulbs I got for $13 each in $15 brushed steel uplights from Lamps Plus. All controled with the Milight WiFi controller through Home Assistant.

Seating was transitioned from the living room when we bought new sofas - raised the rear seating on 10'' platform. 12GA Speaker wire from my local wire wholesaler (similar price to monoprice). Looking for some carpet options - and have a lead on a local seller of OC703 for acoustic panels.

It's come a long way in a year - here's a before and after - December 2015 and April 2016 -- not the most recent, obviously - but I'm very proud with how it's coming together.

u/Levistras · 1 pointr/hometheater

Sorry for all the questions.. really appreciate your answers, you've given me more detail than anybody I've talked to at the audio/video stores I go into. Can I buy you a beer somehow? :)

I have one final question I think... my wife chose a TV Stand/Media Console to house all this stuff, and I only have 5.67" of height for the center speaker, so unfortunately that rules out the Dayton Audio set, as well as the Pioneer set I brought up earlier.

So I'm looking at one of two options, first this Micca setup:

Micca MB42X for Front L/R and Rear L/R
Micca MB42X-C for Center (5.3 inches tall, fits my needs)
~$330 CAD for the set of 5 speakers, not bad!
https://www.amazon.ca/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00HHFBEK6

(Instead of the MB42X, maybe the RB42? https://www.amazon.ca/Micca-RB42-Reference-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B07JC416LG/ Seems better reviewed, would add $120 to the price to do those front and back, or just $60 more to do those in the front and still have MB42X in the rear)

(Another option is just to get 5 MB42X-C's?... Or 3 for the front and 2 MB42X at rear)

or this Polk setup.. only other decently priced one I found with a small center.. but this center is much smaller than the Micca:

Polk Audio TL2 for Center
https://www.amazon.ca/Polk-Audio-Speaker-Center-Channel/dp/B0043M667M
Polk T15 for Front L/R and Rear L/R
https://www.amazon.ca/Polk-Audio-T15-Bookshelf-7-25-Inch/dp/B002RJLHB8
~$458 CAD for the set of 5 speakers

(Another option is the T300 set for $150/pair. Shaves $40 off the overall price, not sure if there's much difference there. https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/polk-audio-polk-audio-t300-100-watt-bookshelf-speakers-pair-t300/10166613 )

I'm not a big fan of the look of the TL2 Bookshelf speakers.. so went for the T15/T300 instead.

Curious if you have any opinions about which to pick.. I'm leaning towards the Micca because they fill the shelves better and the reviews online seem to be decent, and the tiny TL2 center from Polk is... tiny.

To pair with all this I have a Polk Audio PSW10 subwoofer.. which gets alot of hate around here but seems more than powerful enough for my needs. Got it last night and hooked it up and I'm running it at about 10% on the gain dial and it's more than enough for what I need.. will probably piss off my neighbours (semi-detached home) even at that level.

Again, thanks for your help, really appreciate folks like you that take the time to answer threads and help people out with their questions.

EDIT: All the above said.. after listening to a dozen reviews or so on the Micca line-up.. I think I'm leaning towards either:

  1. RB-42 front and back, and MB42X-C center (really just because I can't get the RB-42C in Canada). This sounds like I'd have alot more bass in the RB-42, but they are weak at high volumes. Filling a large room like I'll have these in would be difficult, although most of the time I'm sitting fairly close to the speakers when watching TV, this would only be an issue while listening to music in the room somewhere other than the couch infront of it.

  2. MB42X-C x 5 all around. More power and higher sensitivity and they seem to keep their clean sound at higher volumes. Less bass per speaker.. but I have the sub in the setup so hopefully that helps fill that gap (even though it's a PSW10).

    Long post, sorry... rambling a little as I go back and forth between options.
u/dark_tex · 3 pointsr/hometheater

I'm like you, OP. I also am philosophically opposed to spending more on audio than on screen. That being said, good speakers do last for a very long time: if new formats ever come out, you can always upgrade the receiver and you can keep your speakers forever.

I did a lot of searching and I ended up with a good compromise that allowed me to have a LG OLED 65 together with a set of solid speakers.

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Here's what you need to know:

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- The latest OLED TVs are pretty much the same as last year's. LG B7, C7, B8 or C8 are all the same TV pretty much. Get the cheapest you can find. I bought mine on greentoe.com. I offered 1900$ for a 65' B7 this past April and my offer got accepted. You can even try to price match it with your credit card, I think (search in this sub). This may save you a few dollars more. Bottom line is: you should be able to snatch a 65 OLED for ~1500-1900.

- You can order a refurbished sub for a fraction of the price. I have the Denon X1400H that u/robotdinofight recommended, and I also bought it from accessories4less.

- Atmos speakers are mostly marketing BS. There isn't much sound that comes from above you in movies. That Denon is compatible anyway, so you can always add them later. Before you do that, just go watch a movie in Atmos at a theater.

- Sorround speakers are not that important either. Your dialogue is coming from the center speaker, and music etc will be on the front channels, with just some in your sorrounds more for ambiance than anything else. You can go with *very cheap* speakers here. Source: Zeos's guide here. I ended up buying the cheapest speakers Zeos recommended: Micca Covo-s for 40$ the pair (a factor in my decision was also that I had the speaker stands I was using for the cheap Logitech 5.1 PC system I had. Speaker stands are expensive too so factor in that cost too). These speakers are honestly not great: I tried using a pair of ELAC B6 and yes, sorround was much better. But I like HDR and perfect blacks way more than better sorround, so I ended up returning the ELACs and kept the Miccas as my rear. Maybe I'll upgrade some other time.

- If you are like me and have neighbors and a wife who's not into loud explosion, you really don't need a crazy sub. I have the Elac S10 and that's *more* than enough for us, my wife wants me to keep it down. Get a cheap one! Mine was only about 100$. See Zeos's guide here: https://www.reddit.com/comments/5b1u99

- Invest in good fronts. I have the ELAC B6.2 and while I don't think they sound like the crazy expensive speakers that some friends have, they sound *much* better than a soundbar/integrated TV sound and are great for movies! Important: whatever you buy, you must buy a center channel that matches the left/right speakers. I have the ELAC Debut 2.0 C6.2 center, with the ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2 Bookshelf Speakers as my L/R channels.

- Buy cheap speaker wire and strip it yourself!! I'm so bad with practical stuff that I was a bit intimidated by it, but honestly it's ridiculously simple. The guide that I liked before has a section on wires, read it. The sub has its own cable, remember to buy it (I bought the Amazon one).

- Buy cheap HDMI cables from AmazonBasics.

- I have these stands for my fronts: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001PYV7LQ/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Compared to u/robotdinofight's guide, you lose some sound quality, but only where it matters least and you should save some 700$, enough money to go from the TCL to a LG OLED. Hope it helped!

u/Agentbolt · 1 pointr/hometheater

The Polks mentioned earlier are nice, after researching quite a bit I found a lot of people also recommend the Andrew Jones set, which is what I ended up getting (I grabbed a Bic F12 subwoofer instead of the matching Pioneer one, however)

https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-PK52FS-5-0-Theater-Speaker/dp/B00IRH0QMA/ref=sr_1_14

I have NOT seen such kind reviews to the Andrew Jones setup around this subreddit, but most people here seem to be playing in a different league than we are, in terms of budget.

Also, if you're looking to go a bit cheaper with the receiver, this is the one I ended up getting - https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs730h/denon-avr-s730h-7.2-ch-x-75-watts-a/v-receiver-w/heos/1.html

It's a refurb, yeah, but it's refurbed by Denon themselves, mine arrived looking indistinguishable from a brand-new one and it works great. It also supports Atmos and DTS-X, all of the HDMI ports are 2.0 full bandwidth, etc...

$375 + $220 = $595, which leaves plenty left over for a good entry-level subwoofer and maybe even some upward-firing Atmos speakers if he really wants to get into it. I have the Atmos add-on speakers that are matched to my floorstanding ones, and I'm pretty happy with them. Again, this subreddit hates upward-firing ones, but I really enjoy the fuller sound, and they cost $100 for the pair.

u/Stevo592 · 1 pointr/hometheater

I will probably get flak for doing this but here you go:

Sony SSB1000 ($55) These speakers are pretty good for how cheap they are. Much better than the Micca Covos.

SMSL-SA-50 ($68) I have this amp and it is awesome how much it puts out. I see the people all the time recommend the Lepai LP-2020 for cheap setups but ignore that amp. Get this one.

There you have it. Cheap setup that is entirely expandable. Get some Banana plugs and some cheap speaker wire.

Later on if you save your pennies you can buy something like the dayton sub for about 100 bucks and will fit nicely with that setup.

u/lihpwehc · 1 pointr/hometheater

sorry i forgot to add, im canadian so getting deals from canada is pretty hard /:

i don't really have a budget, but i would prefer to not spend too much money. im looking for value, and i don't want to spend any more than 400 bucks(canadian), but preferable i would like to spend less than that. if you think value lies somewhere above 400, then i don't mind getting it if the sound quality is improved by a huge amount

i'm gonna be using this for a playstation 4 pro, so i kinda want the hdmi input rather than optical or whatever

i also don't want to wait until black friday, as i have alot of free time now and i wanna set it up now.

when i look at all of these on canadian amazon, its just below 1000 bucks

https://www.amazon.ca/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG
https://www.amazon.ca/Pioneer-SP-C22-Designed-Channel-Speaker/dp/B008NCD2EI
https://www.amazon.ca/Dayton-Audio-B652-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B002RMPHMU
https://www.amazon.ca/Dayton-Audio-SUB-1000-10-Inch-Subwoofer/dp/B0063NU3AA
https://www.amazon.ca/Yamaha-RX-V377-5-1-Channel-Theater-Receiver/dp/B00HZE2WW8

again, thanks for your help, its the first time in this sub, and my first time posting things on reddit haha (:

u/Sharohachi · 2 pointsr/hometheater

I like the hub (companion and elite both work with the hub) but I'd go with the basic remote if I were you to save some money. This one is great and it includes a hub. The only thing the companion adds is some smart light buttons, so it would be fine too if you want those extra buttons. I have the basic Harmony remote I linked and the much fancier Harmony Elite, but I end up using the little remote more often. The elite is overkill unless you have more than 6 devices running to your TV/AVR and the touch screen ends up being a bother sometimes.

Edit: I saw you talking about using a tablet below and wanted to mention that the Hub will work with multiple devices so you can use the tablet or the remote as you see fit. I think the basic remote is definitely worthwhile as I like the physical buttons and easy operation, but you can still use your smartphone or tablet to control your devices too. The hub is $70 by itself so you might as well pay $77 for hub and a remote.

u/jezterr · 15 pointsr/hometheater

Just wanted to give a big thanks to all the helpful people here who are so willing to share their knowledge, and to u/ZeosPantera for his handy guides.

This was the very first project I wanted to complete in our new house, and considering the delays due to missing/wrong pieces for the furniture, my reluctance to punch holes in the walls in our new place, and so on, it was a bit of a pain to take on. My main goals were to keep it simple, modern, and clean, and I think I managed it well enough.

It's a basic setup, and I know there are some taboo things people will point out (e.g. speakers too close to the corners/walls, non O2-free copper-clad wire, etc), but the important thing is that I'm happy with it. I don't plan on changing much for years to come (unless you guys end up pointing out something that ends up bothering the crap out of me). It looks and sounds great - even the wife loves it, despite her initial skepticism when I first told her my plan (probably the most important thing).

So many thanks to everyone in this subreddit for being awesome, and let me know what you guys think.

As requested, here are the components.

TV:

u/ZeosPantera · 1 pointr/hometheater

If my friend said I have $200 and need big sound outside.. I would probably buy all the stuff I usually buy. This stereo amp $96 DTA-100a to power the speakers. If you could borrow someone Else's stereo amp and save the money. Do so. Otherwise this baby is good to have around regardless. Now go and buy two sets of these $45 Dayton B652's. Hook up a full pair per side wired in series. The Ω load of these speakers claims 8Ω but my multi-meter and others say otherwise (4Ω). Running them in series raises the load which is better for that amp plus you get a nice 3db boost from doubling up the speakers.

May seem like a lot of stuff and work but it is super simple and any other help or explanation I will be glad to give.

u/homeboi808 · 4 pointsr/hometheater

> seating for 8 persons

That means you have seating off to the side, likely diagonally, correct? What this means is that you should get bipole/dipole/radiators for your side-surrounds, and place them centered between each "row of seating" (if it's additional couches instead of seats, put them centered based on distance from furthest seating to closest seating), a pic/drawing of the room would help. Good ones that'll fit in your budget are these bipoles ($120) or its bigger brothers, this one ($150) or this one ($200, I have these, got them $100 on sale from Walmart, currently normal priced).

> I preferred the quality of Klipsch

As for your front 3 speakers, two options I have would be Klipsch, or the same company as those bipoles. For Klipsch, there are these bookshelves + matching center ($340); for Fluance, they don't have a matching center for their SX Series, so you can mix and match, or not get their SX Series, their most expensive series (Signature) bookshelves + center would be $350, so similar price to the Klipsch's, their 2^nd highest model line bookshelves + center would be $270.

For your back-surrounds, are you wall-mounting? If your are, you will want front-ported speakers. Ones that I can recommend are these Sound Appeals ($70), or actually Fluance's top 2 model lines, you can get the Signature Series ($200) or their XL7 Series ($150). You don't want dipole/dipole/radiators for back-rears, as the sound dispersion wouldn't be good (null zones or amplified zones)

Now, that brings us to the subwoofer. If you were talking like 3-4, maybe 5 people, you could just get 1 sub, however, since you are talking 8 people, you definitely want 2 subs. The reason for that is a subwoofer has sweet spots, and an 8-person seating area is definitely too large. With the speakers I recommended, if you went on the most expensive of my recommendations, that would leave us with ~$750 to play with. I would recommend two of these ($660 total) or two of these ($740 $865 total, too expensive).

Now, I'm guessing you'll also need speaker wire. I'd recommend getting at least 16 gauge (lower the # the better), and if you are going in-wall, get oxygen-free. Speaker wire is cheap, here is 100ft of 14 gauge oxygen-free speaker wire. Now, I'd also suggest getting open-screw banana plugs (likely wont fit on any speakers you are wall-mounting), just to save on some frustration with connecting the speaker wire to the speakers/receiver, I bought 2 orders of these ($16 total), they connect like this. You will also want 2 subwoofer cables (RCA's with better insulation), I bought 1 order AmazonBasics in 15ft for $9 ($18 total for you), they also come in 25ft ($20 total, so better safe than sorry). If you don't know how to place a subwoofer, here is /u/zeospantera's tutorial.

u/DZCreeper · 3 pointsr/hometheater

Atmos is both an encoding format and a speaker setup, which are actually independent of each other. If your receiver supports Atmos but your speaker setup is lacking you won't get the expected effects.

Yes, each Atmos channel requires its own output, just like the surrounds. So for a basic 5.2.2 setup you could get something like a $300 Denon X1500. If you wanted 7.2.2 or 7.2.4 you need a more expensive receiver. The cheapest way to handle a full 7.2.4 installation is with a $700 refurb Marantz SR6012 + external stereo amp. The external amp doesn't need much power.

https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/marsr6012/marantz-sr6012-9.2-ch-x-110-watts-a/v-receiver-w/heos/1.html

https://www.amazon.com/SMSL-50Wx2-TDA7492-Amplifier-Adapter/dp/B00F0H8TOC

Up-firing speakers are highly inferior to ceiling speakers, and also too costly. Those RP8060FA towers are $1100 each on a good day. You could get a pair of extremely good L/R speakers for about $550, another $150 for front Atmos, and then spend the saved $1500 on a second subwoofer. I will tell you right now, a second subwoofer is the best upgrade you can make for a home theatre setup. The reduction in room modes is always more than you think.

http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages/products/speakers/cmt340m/cmt340m.html

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_107RC80I/Polk-Audio-RC80i.html

You will need a second pair of ceiling speakers behind the listening position for 7.2.4.

https://www.dolby.com/us/en/guide/speaker-setup-guides/7.1.4-overhead-speaker-setup-guide.html

If you do go for dual subs, mid-way along the side walls is usually best but you should use a measurement mic to figure out your own room.

u/000Destruct0 · 5 pointsr/hometheater

If you keep your budget at $1k and purchase the BenQ (which would be the best choice based on your budget) that will leave approx. $1200 for a screen and audio. A bit unbalanced but doable in your situation. A manual screen will set you back about $80-$100. Ideally you'd want to use an acoustically transparent screen but your budget won't allow that.

For audio then, with approx. $1k to use, I'd do this:

Receiver $200: http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrxv379bl/yamaha-rx-v379-5.1-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html

L/C/R $300: http://smile.amazon.com/Infinity-Bookshelf-Theater-Speaker-Package/dp/B01BKR05WY/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&qid=1462282281&sr=8-19&keywords=infinity+primus

Surrounds $90: http://smile.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Black/dp/B00E7H8GG2/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1462282454&sr=1-2&keywords=micca

Subwoofer $405: http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/stf-2.html

As you are in a condo, use the flexibility in your budget to acquire some bass isolators like this: http://smile.amazon.com/SVS-SoundPath-Subwoofer-Isolation-System/dp/B00NCSQ5GK/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1462282521&sr=1-1&keywords=subwoofer+isolation or this: http://smile.amazon.com/ISOfoam-Soundproof-Subwoofer-Platform-Mounting/dp/B018FKC4MS/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1462282521&sr=1-4&keywords=subwoofer+isolation

to decouple the subwoofer from the floor. This will help reduce the vibrations in the walls and floor.

This system will give you an excellent subwoofer, very good speakers and a capable receiver.

u/samuswashere · 2 pointsr/hometheater

No one has suggested you change anything that you already have. You are being unnecessarily defensive. However, there are reasons you should reconsider your future purchase of wireless speakers, especially if you care about value.

> So I think a pedestal with a Bluetooth or other wireless speaker on it would be ideal. Any suggestions for a relatively amateur (with amateur price tag) Speaker with only a power wire requirement?

The issue with what you are requesting is that you seem to realize that you will need powered speakers (aka internally amplified), but you also need to account for transmitting and receiving the signal. Bluetooth speakers obviously have receivers built in, but they are generally designed to work directly with music players, not home theater receivers. You also still have to find a way to transmit the separate signals from your receiver. Bluetooth speakers are also relatively expensive, especially for something that is large enough to match a home theater system.

Most pre-designed wireless home theater systems come as a whole HTIB, which would mean replacing your system, but the speakers would be cheap and would be very unlikely to improve the quality of your system, and may even reduce the current quality, so that would be a terrible option even if you were considering an "upgrade".

Your best option if you are still committed to wireless is likely a transmitter and receiver designed for the purpose like this or this. These systems would be used with traditional passive speakers. See the "Speakers" section here for good options on a lower budget. The issue is that you would still have to run wires from the rear amplifier(s) to your rear speakers, not to mention find a place to put the rear amplifier(s). Also, you'll notice that this would mean spending $100-200 before you even get to the price of the speakers and it adds additional complexity to your system which means another component that can distort your signal, break or just screw things up.

The absolute easiest solution with minimal wires I could find was this, which has very mixed reviews. It looks like it's basically a rear soundbar that mimics left and right rear channels from one speaker. It will still set you back $150, and may or may not even work, according to the reviews.

Or, you could just do what I did and decide that running some cable neatly along the ceiling and walls wasn't really that big of an eyesore, get a decent pair of rear speakers for $50 and call it a day.

u/Deadleggg · 1 pointr/hometheater

The quintets are a great little system. No subwoofer with this set up and you'll definitely need one but as far as sound goes they're pretty good.

If that size is what you're looking for a lot of people will let you know of the Monoprice 5.1 which are pretty much a direct copy of the EnergyTake classic 5.1 to the point Energy sued them for ripping off their stuff.

A friend of mine has the Monoprice speakers and they're ok, but i personally think the Klipsch set up sounds better.

u/jvorn · 3 pointsr/hometheater

The reason I hesitate to recommend this is because I like to present people with a clear upgrade path (i.e. you don't throw everything away when you upgrade, you take your small fronts and make them the surrounds when you buy bigger fronts for example), but at this low of a budget so many compromises are being made that you might feel like upgrade means swapping everything (eventually).

That being said, tons people have no problem with these items and think they are amazing, so your mileage may vary. These are great, well received speakers. If you are set on 2.1, here's what I got.

Option 1:

2x Jamo S 803 ($160 for pair)

1x AVR-S540BT 5.2-Ch x 70 Watts A/V Receiver from Accessories4Less @ $200

1x Polk Audio PSW10 Subwoofer @ $130

Total: $490

Stretches the budget a bit, but will sound great. Receiver does actually support 4k, but does lack room correction. Overall this is a nice system and the Jamo's are bang-for-buck kings (and they actually look decent, come in several finishes).

Option 2:

2x Fluance Signature Series HiFi ($200 for pair)

1x AVR-S540BT 5.2-Ch x 70 Watts A/V Receiver from Accessories4Less @ $200

1x Polk Audio PSW10 Subwoofer @ $130

Total: $530

Same idea, just different speakers. Also highly regarded/well reviewed.

Option 3: Forgoes subwoofer for clearer upgrade path

2x ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2 Bookshelf Speakers @ $300 (comes in a pair)

1x AVR-S540BT 5.2-Ch x 70 Watts A/V Receiver from Accessories4Less @ $200

Total: $500

IMO, Elac Debut 2.0s crush everything else at this price point by a significant margin and is worth missing the sub (temporarily). The upgrade path down the road is clear here: first get a sub (huge fan of the Bic Acoustech PL-200 II Subwoofer @ $300 or the RSL Speedwoofer 10s (sold out until Oct) @ $400)), then get the rest of the Elac Debut 2.0 speakers (center channel, surrounds - they even offer on walls), and finally way down the road you upgrade your receiver to something that can deliver more power, which will make you Elacs sound even better/go louder.

Let me know if you have any questions!

u/PURPL3H3YS · 3 pointsr/hometheater

Well, first of all, a lot of these products are listed at way over their actual market value because you are linking to the manufacturer website.

The BIC F12 can be had here for $200 with free shipping. Also, I think people normally recommend the F12 over any Polk sub.

I would probably avoid Klipsch if you are worried about bright/fatiguing speakers. Klipsch are know to sound harsh to some people. Polk is a very well regarded brand as a start into home theater, and many people are content with them and don't feel the need to ever upgrade. That being said, I would check out Newegg's prices for something like the Polk 75T but the TSi series is also good (from what I hear). Someone may have better advice within the Polk lineup which would be the best choice, but if you can go listen to them at Best Buy or something, that may make your decision a lot easier!

u/RichardRicsoft · 1 pointr/hometheater

I have a set 7.1 set of TSC/Sapphire speakers. Like these link
They are great. I recently purchase some Micca speakers and I was surprised by how well the Micca speakers did when compared to my TSC bookshelf speakers. They get loud! They are not bass heavy because they do not go very low, but the bass is tight and I did not notice tweeter breakup or high amounts of distortion at high volume.


One of these

Two of pairs of these

For the subwoofer, Craigsist may have something decent at a low price. I like Polk speakers, but avoid their subwoofer. I currently have a Velodyne which I enjoy.

For the receiver, check Best Buy and Frys for sales. I've seen Denon receivers for pretty low in price. So, around $180-$250

If you are wanting a projector, know that lamp will cost plenty when needing to be replaced. I have and LED projector, so it should last. It is an LG and I paid $400. It is okay. The color reproduction can be a bit overwhelming even after calibrated, but I have enjoyed it.

Frys has good deals on projector screens. Do not forget to consider the aspect ratio of the projector.

u/yojimbo124 · 8 pointsr/hometheater

Yes, the general consensus among audiophiles is that Bose is overpriced and soundbars are very underwhelming. "Real 5.1 sound" cannot (yet) be achieved without a real 5.1 setup. Most HTIB (Home Theatres in a Box) will give you better sound than a soundbar.

I own this 5.1 Pioneer speaker setup found here and I highly recommend it to anyone that is looking for a good entry level home theater setup. Shop around and you can get a fantastic deal on the whole setup. I got the 5.0 setup for less than $300 and then upgraded to a $200 BIC 12 sub to get the 0.1.

You will then of course need a decent reciever (about $250) and cables and you will blow any speaker bar out of the water. I am not certain if this is within your budget since you only quoted "cheaper than bose" but I have seen this exact setup recommend many times before and I feel it is one of the best values for the price.

Edit: I was way under your budget. You could definitely do better than this setup at your price range.

u/Olgaar · 3 pointsr/hometheater

Are you planning to use Surrounds? I can't help but feel surrounds would be a little awkward in your room. I'd recommend a 3.0 or 3.1 system. Here's some equipment to start taking a look at.

Speakers:

  • Hsu Research 3.0 package in black $519 - These are 8" deep--I know size is important to you. This is a quality setup, but probably doesn't allow budget for a sub.
  • Pioneer Andrew Jones Bookshelves + Center $230 - that price include the center and bookshelves. 7.1" deep. This frees up money in the budget for a sub.
  • HTD Middy Compact $267 - You'd use three of these speakers, one for left, one for right, one for center. 5.25" deep. Don't use these without a sub--in fact, make sure you buy a high quality sub if you intend to use these. Not neccaserily a sub that digs ultra deep, but one that can handle mid-bass well.
  • HTD Flat Panel Speaker $450 - These look like a 3-way version of the Middy's. You'd use and mount them same as the Middy's. Probably puts you back in a position of not having money for a sub, but these little guys might put out enough bass to keep you happy. Which is NOT to say they would output subwoofer-like bass... nothing replaces a true subwoofer. 4.25" deep.

    I've only heard the Hsu's and the Pioneers in person. Without going in to detail, I reccomend them both. If you're not a demanding listener, save the money and go with the Pioneers. If you are, I think the Hsu's are worth the extra cost. I haven't heard the HTD's but they might just be the right solution for you based on form factor.

    Subwoofers:

  • Hsu STF-1 $315 shipped.
  • BIC F12 $200
  • Dayton Sub1200 $110

    That's basically the sub I would recommend at each one of those price points.

    Receivers

    I'm personally not a good source to reccomend receivers... just pick a 5.1 by a brand you like and at the price you can afford. Personally I've worked with Denon's and found nothing to complain about with them.
u/gurueuey · 6 pointsr/hometheater

Do you need 4k? Is your TV a 4k TV and do you have a 4k blu-ray player or other source? If the answer to either of those questions is no, then you don't need that receiver. In addition, those speakers, while pretty, are essentially junk when it comes to sound quality. They're $5.00 speakers in $100 enclosures, when you really want the opposite. Sorry to be so negative, but I think you should have done more research.

You can get a fantastic deal on a refurbished receiver from Accessories4Less. I've personally purchased from there, as have many others from Reddit. You'll receive a quality product at a substantially discounted price, especially if you don't need 4k at this time. Try this Yamaha. $100 cheaper than the one you ordered, with almost identical specs minus 4k.

For speakers, ditch Yamaha completely, they really don't offer anything for entry-level speakers. Instead, many people on Reddit recommend Micca speakers for a beginning setup. Here's some links:

For L/R fronts and surround speakers, use these Micca MB42X

For your center channel, use this Micca MB42X-c

Then, use either this Dayton SUB-1000, or one of it's stable mates the SUB-800, SUB-1200, or SUB-1500. Alternatively you can use this BIC-F12 for a little more punch, especially if you plan on upgrading any time down the road.

Cable wise you're fine. Use HDMI whenever you can, as optical only supports up to 5.1. Also don't fall into the trap of "high end" cabling. Stuff from Amazon or Monoprice is fine. For speaker wire, make sure the wire is pure copper, not copper-clad aluminum.

Hope that helps.

u/ThirdFromTheSun · 2 pointsr/hometheater

I would say the Denon 1612, but it only has 4 HDMI inputs. If you think you can get by with this many go for it. This is the receiver I personally have, and I think it is absolutely great. The setup is as simple as possible, really hard to mess up. If you really NEED more inputs, I would take a look at the Marantz NR1403. Both of these have auto setup and can be expanded up to 5.1.

As for speakers, we would need to know a bit more about your room, such as how large it is and how far you will be sitting from the tv. If it is a bigger room, I would probably suggest these Polks, or if you go with the Denon I linked, Magnepan MMGs. If it is a smaller room, I would go with a pair of PSB Image B4s. I absolutely love how those little guys sound.

I would not recommend a subwoofer at this price point, UNLESS you go with the Denon and PSBs. In that case I would probably just go for something like this simple Polk model.

As for the dialogue being clear, most receivers will have presets to increase dialogue volumes. Any other questions and we'll be happy to help.

u/umdivx · 3 pointsr/hometheater

If you're opening up your ceiling to run wires and install speakers, depending on how the floor joists are (engineered vs straight up 2 x 8's) you may want to think about blown in insulation to help with noise transfer to the rest of the house.

> but any other suggestions for good looking sound proofing would help.

Check out http://www.soundproofingcompany.com/ they do free reviews/estimates to help give you an idea on what is feasible and what you can do.

As a side note, acoustic panels are less about sound proofing and more about fixing room acoustics (echos, bouncing).

> I do want Dolby Atmos and DTS:X capability but was not sure the best setup, looking at either a 5.1.6 (all 6 ceiling speakers) or possibly doing a 7.1.4 (setting 2 of the 6 ceiling speaker listed as mid-highs possibly?)

Just be aware that 6 channels of atmos is expensive, you're looking at something like the Denon X8500 to do 6 channels of atmos right now. Your 7200 can't do 6 overhead channels, maxes out at 4.

If you're hiring someone, wire for everything (Top fronts, top middles, top rears, front heights and rear heights) once its opened up the cost will be minimal for adding all that.

> Lastly, the rear speakers are limited on placement due to windows, but it appears to have just enough room between the windows and the sliding doors.

Speaker stands, they never hurt anyone and allows you to run rear surrounds.

That or the small section of wall you do have between the patio door and the windows could easily wall mount rear surround speakers.

If this was my room that is probably what I'd do, is wall mount the speakers with Speaker mounts like these on each side of the patio door.

u/concentus7 · 1 pointr/hometheater

At that level of budget, you simply don't have a lot of wiggle room. You'd be pretty much limited to stereo (2.0), and you'd likely have to get the most budget of budget speakers (probably Dayton B452's).

A better compromise may be a decent pair of powered speakers like the Fluance Ai40, Edifier R1280DB or Micca PB42X. Another option would be to get a mini amp like the Dayton DTA-2.1BT2 and pair it with passive bookshelfs like Micca RB42's or MB42X's.

There are other audio "solutions" out there, but nothing that we would suggest in good faith around here. My honest advise is to wait and save up for a more robust budget so you can invest in quality stuff that will last you longer.

u/aerosmithfreak101 · 1 pointr/hometheater

I looked into the Denon and it looks like I can grab the X1300 at Bestbuy right now for around $400. They also have a Sony 4k receiver priced at $200 right now. It looks like one of the big differences would be the addition/lack of DolbyAtmos and internet connectivity. I haven't heard either so I can't speak on the differences. Would you say its worth the $200 price hike?

Also, googling DolbyAtmos a bit leads me to believe that I need an Atmos capable speaker set/soundbar to fully enjoy it. From what I saw they were pretty pricey. Do you have any suggestions on that front? Because it looks like (unfortunately) the combination of the Denon with an Atmos capable speaker set would be out of my price range at the moment.

Do you suggest I wait and save up for some sort of Denon/Atmos Speaker set-up? Or would some sort of combo of the Sony with maybe these speakers be sufficient?

Thank you for all the help so far!

u/Yoyodyne_Propulsion_ · 1 pointr/hometheater

I am also building slowly to 5.1. I don't know how quickly you want to get there or what you want the final tally to be, but I would opt for less, but better equipment, to start. I'd get a cheaper receiver and subwoofer to get my foot in the door, but I'd buy better speakers.

I'd go with something like this:

Receiver - $169.99 http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamhtr3067bl/yamaha-htr-3067-5.1-ch-x-70-watts-a/v-receiver-same-as-rx-v377/1.html

Front L/R - $279.99 https://www.amazon.com/Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSEQ06/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1473895480&sr=1-1&keywords=elac

This comes in at $449.98 This will be 100% better, and absolutely replace your soundbar, which is what you need right now. It also puts you $80 dollars from the matching center, or $113 from a nice subwoofer. You could spend $500 on a subwoofer now, like was posted above, but it would outclass your fronts by a large margin. I prefer better dialogue/sound overall. This sub is 85% of what a subwoofer double it's price gives. I started with 2.1 and I don't regret going slowly.

Center - $179.99 https://www.amazon.com/Debut-Center-Speaker-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSEQWE/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1473895660&sr=1-1&keywords=elac+center

Subwoofer - $213 https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M

u/appothecary · 3 pointsr/hometheater

For 300 you might be better off buying LCR and a receiver then adding a sub and surrounds later.

You can probably do something like this:

u/Biggrich76 · 2 pointsr/hometheater

Agree with areodeck, start with a good 5.1 system. If you decide you want 7.1, you can always add speakers later.

I have the GT1080, you're going to love it.

As for audio, $500 might be pushing it for separates. You're on the right track though, either of those receivers will be good it's just going to depend on if you want to expand to 7.x later on.

These Fluance bipole surrounds are a good value and highly recommended- http://www.amazon.com/Fluance-AVBP2-Surround-Satellite-Speakers/dp/B00067OLOS/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8

You can also check out the guides at https://www.reddit.com/r/Zeos/ for more recommendations.

Good luck!

u/raeanin · 2 pointsr/hometheater

Are your more of a videophile or audiophile?

If you are a videophile, minimum recomened viewing angle from the seating position is about 30 degrees. At 12' viewing distance, your minimum recommended screen size is around 77", with ideal being around 93". A decent 70" TV would eat up all of your budget and still be a bit below the 30deg recommended minimum. A budget projector will give you a much more ideal screen size at about $1000 for projector + screen.

If you are more of an audiophile, you can forget about screen minimums and get an entry level ~55" or so TV for around $500 on sale somewhere. This would leave an adequate budget for a good entry level 5.1 system. In which case I would suggest something like:

Dennon AVR-E300 Receiver $170

Bic f12 Sub $190

[HSU Research 5.0 Speaker Package] (http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/speakerpkg.html) $790

This would put your about $150 over budget, or alternately, you can just get the 3.0 set from HSU and find a cheap used pair of decent bookshelves for the rears.

This would be an excellent sounding system for your room size. Excellent sound quality and most likely capable of hitting reference levels depending on how much room gain you get.

u/zim2411 · 1 pointr/hometheater

Right now, it's a $180 difference to step up to the 65T since the 55T are on sale. It'll be a small-ish gain in bass performance, but you'd get a bigger gain by putting money towards a sub. The receiver should work nicely, especially if you get a sub.

For sub recommendations, check out Polk's eBay store, or the BIC America F12. However, I think you're better off saving up and springing for a much higher quality sub like this SVS. I have the T90e's which are essentially the previous generation 65T. If you're upgrading from TV audio right now I think you'll be happy enough with the 55T's bass performance that you can comfortably wait on buying a sub. I like building out a system piece by piece with high quality components and getting that "wow" factor with each new upgrade.

u/DonnieDelaware · 1 pointr/hometheater

I would go for the X2200W because it features Denon's MultiEQ XT, while the S910W only has MultiEQ. The XT will drastically help when calibrating the speakers, especially since you want 7.1 and atmos. I would definitely go with the X200W if you can get it for only $100 more.

Do you know the Polk speakers you are thinking about? I have heard the Andrew Jones designed Pioneer speakers are good. Atmos is available for these as either an add-on or comes with certain bookshelf speakers. Amazon does not indicate if certain prices are for pairs. If the prices are, then you could get two towers, sub, two bookshelf speakers for rear, and two atmos add-ons for the tops of the towers for about $800. If the prices are not for pairs, then add about $300 more. Perhaps more people can chime in about other speakers with atmos that would fit your budget.

Here is the link to the amazon purchase: http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG

Denon's website shows the X2200W at $800. Adding the speakers, you would be around $1600 without tax, if applicable, or about $1900 depending on the statement above. I would also recommend a power conditioner instead of a surge protector at this level. Look around for a good one that is reasonably priced.

Good luck! My father was sitting in a room with atmos speakers and ducked when a helicopter flew overhead in the movie.

u/puppetmaster2501 · 2 pointsr/hometheater

For beginning, I always just recommend an entry-level Denon AVR and 2 Polk speakers. It's good enough that it will be a million miles ahead of a truly cheap setup, and if you ever want to upgrade to nicer thing you'll have no problems just swapping things out. Polk is pretty mainstream and budget friendly, and Denon is also pretty mainstream and has a nice room-correction/calibration thing that they do called Audyssey.

AVR could be anything basically like this: https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVRS530BT-Channel-Ultra-Receiver/dp/B06XYD1RZ3

And for speakers: https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-TSi200-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B0018QROCC/

And for subwoofer: https://www.amazon.com/Polk-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer-Single/dp/B0002KVQBA

For an AVR you'll be spending around or just north of $200. And for a pair of front speakers, I think you'd spend around or just north of $200 for the pair, too. You can also get some kind of really cheap nightstand tables to hold the speakers up, or go more expensive and get taller floor standing speakers. Just like how you want a TV to be roughly eye level, it's good to heave the tweeters of your speakers at roughly ear level.

You can go WAY nicer than all of this, but I am assuming you're pretty budget conscious and would rather just get something that sounds massively great compared to just using TV speakers or a soundbar, and you're not ready to spend a grand or more on audio to approach the really fancy levels.

u/evDev84 · 2 pointsr/hometheater

Putting audio equipment in a closed environment runs risk of heat damage. You'll want some place that gets air or invest in some way to circulate the air.

This is a front blowing rack cooler for 80 bucks. Whatever receiver you get, stack this on top and let the heat get sucked out of the front of the cabinet AC Infinity AIRCOM S10, Quiet Cooling Blower Fan System 17" Front-Exhaust for Receivers, Amps, DVR, AV Cabinet Components https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078PX4575/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_iAmKDbVFG2Q0T


As far as a nice atmos setup, essentially from what I've read the atmos positions supported by the specs are all ceiling positions, and you've got all those shelves, so actually might be doable. Maybe some small compact speakers for everything would do nicely here along with a decent sub.



As far as speaker selection goes, if you're on a budget, I've heard great things about these pioneer AJ bookshelf speakers: Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Andrew Jones Designed Bookshelf Loudspeakers(7-1/8" x 12-9/16" x 8-7/16" & weighs 9 lbs 2 oz) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008NCD2LG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_FymKDbX0SJ7J2

Otherwise if you can afford a bit better, Q Accoustics makes excellent compact bookshelf speakers for basically $100 a speaker.

The atmos speakers themselves don't need to be top of the line. They need to be able to handle like 150hz and above. Something like the Micca convo-s could work.

As far as a sub goes, the SVS SB1000 seems to be the go-to around here for best price to performance at the "entry level" of decent home theater experience. $500

Receiver is entirely up to you but get something with decent room correction. The x1500h is not bad. The x1600h is out and has eARC support but is a few hundred dollars more since it's new.

That honestly should give you everything for a superb experience in this space.

u/shifty_pete · 1 pointr/hometheater

If you are looking at receivers, the brands most people on this board have and talk about are Denon, Onkyo, Yamaha, Pioneer, and Marantz. Onkyo has had some bad HDMI boards lately. Denon and Marantz are the same company with Marantz being the nicer brand (think Honda and Acura). There is a website called accessories4less that sells refurbished receivers. You can save some money this way. Refurbs are units that have come back to the manufacturer under warranty, it costs them money to repair these units so they get a thorough double-check on all systems to make sure they are not going to come back again. They usually have a one year manufacturers warranty on them as well. If you want to save cash this is a good way to go. Find one from the previously mentioned brands with the features you want and get it. Don't get a Sony receiver, /r/zeos talks about that.

Let's say you spend around 200-500 bucks on the receiver and want to spend 800-1000 on speakers. I'd find three timbre-matched fronts (speakers from the same series are timbre matched). I recommend floorstanding speakers because they are better overall, but if you want to save space, I wouldn't be afraid to go with bookshelf speakers especially if you are considering a subwoofer, which you should be. The subwoofer to get is the BIC America F12. $200 new or $150 used when you can find it, this sub rocks anything else in its price range. You need to pay over double before you find anything that is markedly better. Your final step is surrounds. Get some bookshelf speakers. Many people enjoy dipole speakers for the rearmost channel as it makes the sound harder to pinpoint.

Expect to spend the most on your front channels, the rear channels don't have to match the front so you can splurge on the front and just get some ok rears if you want.

I would break down my price like this for a 800-1000 speaker budget (your money will go further used).

  • Front L/R: $300-400
  • Center: $200
  • Rear L/R: $150
  • Subwoofer: $200

    Listen in-store to what you can. Speakers are very subjective.
u/[deleted] · 1 pointr/hometheater

Yep. I really have enjoyed them quite a bit. They are great for my apartment and would recommend to anyone.

This is my sub which was recommended to me on Reddit. Love it. Check this out on AMZN:

BIC America F12 12-Inch 475-Watt Front Firing Powered Subwoofer http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8

And then I got a cheap $200 denon receiver which I might take back to best buy because I would like more HDMI inputs

Buy all cables, speaker wire, sub cord etc from monoprice. Great wires and very cheap

u/highroller038 · 1 pointr/hometheater

I see lots of commenters recommending high-end stuff which is understandable since you are building your own house and having a large dedicated space for a banging HT. A good 7 channel receiver plus a subwoofer powerful enough for your large room will add up to $1000 pretty quick. Heck, I'd reccomend two subwoofers for a space that large. I will probably get downvoted, but let me help you find some more budget friendly choices.

Receiver $300 - DENON
AVR-X1400H


Subwoofer $300 - Bic Acoustech PL-200 II

Front LR $200 - Fluance Signature Series

* Matching Center - $150

Surround and Rear Surrounds - Micca MB42X 2x$80

This puts you just slightly over budget. also factor in speaker mounts / shelves / stands, cables, etc.... There's obviously lots of options and everyone has their own opinions. Have fun researching, I hope this helps!

u/thecustodian · 1 pointr/hometheater

Hey yo, I've been doing my fair share of research these past couple of days and this sub as well as /r/Zeos have been a huge help. That budget can definitely get you started with something nice.


These suggestions are all from reading this sub, avsforums, amazon reviews, you name it.. I really have no on-hand experience as I'm saving up for a build myself. (Here is my post in case you're interested)


  • Pioneer SP-FS52 - These puppies seem to be a huge favorite everywhere. I did see someone post they were cheaper a couple of weeks back so it's up to you if you want to wait. They are also Pioneer as you mentioned you wanted to stick with that.


  • Denon S500 - This brand is very reputable here, as well as the site. Don't be discouraged by the "Refurbished". I'm planning on getting a receiver from this brand and site and jumping on maybe 1 or 2 years of Extended Warranty just for giggles. It has integrated bluetooth as you mentioned that was important. Like someone above mentioned, you can always go a different route and purchase a receiver without bluetooth technology and get a Google Chromecast (~$25-$30) or Bluetooth dongle. (Be aware you will loose quality when you go wireless)


  • As for a sub, someone needs to chime in, but these two are held in nice regard: Martin Logan Dynamo 300 and Dayton 1000


    That should keep you around your budget and have some spare for cables and any other expenses that might come up along the way. Maybe some cable management or whatever.


    Good luck
u/MMfuryroad · 2 pointsr/hometheater

> CHANE A2.4 can be used as a LCR?(left center right)?

Correct. Their tweeters can be rotated by hand using just a screwdriver as they are in a horizontal alignment from the factory but many rotate them after shipping and use the speakers vertically all the way across or at least for the left and right speaker. Chane owner/speaker designer Jon Lane can walk you through it fairly easily.


>The eventual goal is for a 5.1 setup. should I get 3 CHANE A2.4 then 2 other surrounds and a subwoofer or get 5 CHANE A2.4 then subwoofer?

If your goal is to listen to a lot of multi channel music then having matching Chane bookshelves as side surrounds makes some sense but if not and mostly listening to 2 channel stereo or Direct then matching the surrounds speakers isn't a necessity. The Chane bookshelf A1.4 is a large and fairly heavy bookshelf that usually needs a mount with a metal pad to secure it like from VideoSeCu. Plus yes I recommend a subwoofer. A $400 to $600 subwoofer budget will get you a good quality subwoofer but lesser budgets can be accommodated as well. I have Rythmik subwoofers with my Chane‘s.

>****I know I sound like an idiot.

Anything but !

u/robotdinofight · 1 pointr/hometheater

I just moved my Receiver, Shield TV, Xbox One, & PS4 into a closet. I don't really watch movies on disc any more since ripping all of them and using plex media server on the shield tv. I do play video games, but it's not that big of a deal to switch discs. I LOVE not having any blinky lights anywhere in my field of vision. It really helps add to the illusion of a movie theater and helps my mind just focus on the screen & sound.

I use a Logitech Harmony with hub to control everything. I place the hub in the closet to control everything in there, then use one of the included IR repeater wired right outside the closet door to control the projector. Amazon just had a deal on these for $70, refurbs go down to $70 all the time too. https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Harmony-Control-Smartphone-Simple/dp/B00BQ5RYI4/ref=sr_1_6?s=audio-video-accessories&ie=UTF8&qid=1493050015&sr=1-6&keywords=logitech+harmony

u/bscotchcummerbunds · 1 pointr/hometheater

I just picked up this simple pioneer since it dropped 30 bucks recently, though it looks like it's back up as of today or yesterday. Still good at ~$100 though. I have some old ass but good bigass bookshelf Polks as my fronts, Klipsch bookshelf as my rears and a Yamaha sub so i didn't really give a shit trying to match, lol.

More to the point it had lots of good reviews, so I pulled the trigger when it was 66 bones. Happy I did. I too can now hear dialogue when I'm sitting in center of couch, lol.

u/e60deluxe · 1 pointr/hometheater
  1. those rca speakers are not compatible with a receiver. it is a standalone system. furthermore its pretty shit and doesnt have true surround sound or even pro logic. the rear speakers mirror the front speakers, and the center speaker plays an equal balance of left and right. at the very least, look at something like this, which is not a whole lot better, but atleast it is compatible with a proper receiver and will therefore give true surround sound.

    http://www.monoprice.com/Product/Index?p_id=8247

  2. skip the google tv and get a Sony or LG smart blu ray player. spend around $100-$120. use extra funds to get better speakers.

    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AWKC0JM/

    good: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WGJX5A/

    better: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001202C44/

  3. where is your screen? please dont say "my wall"
u/akajester · 0 pointsr/hometheater

I hope you don't mind I found some examples. Onkyo TX-SR444 $319. Monoprice 5.1 speaker set $150. Logitech Harmony Smart Control $70. This will get you something to setup and learn with and it should sound better than what you've had before with a ton more options. The Onkyo has great built in software and a mic to help do some automatic speaker calibration. You can also tweak it manually when you learn more. You can add rear speakers later if you want 7.1. If after a while you find the fronts/center aren't "full" enough you can add something like this and this. When I got started this really helped me out. Reading and research and asking questions helps a ton! Enjoy.

u/Warvanov · 1 pointr/hometheater

Others have mentioned it but it bears repeating. Those are low quality speakers. It is NOT worth investing in the equipment that you would need to drive them. Don't throw good money after bad. Start from scratch and get something significantly better.

  • AVR: DENON
    AVR-S510BT
    - $169. Entry level receiver from one of the best brands available. A good and very affordable starting point.
  • Front Speakers: Pioneer SP-FS52 ($129 each) & Pioneer SP-C22 ($99). Since you seem to like the look of floor standing speakers, these are good quality entry level speakers with a matching center. Total $357.
  • Surround Speakers Micca MB42 - $69. Small bookshelf speakers that will get you to 5.0. I would consider these optional at this point, since you're on a budget.

    That's a good entry level 5.0 setup for around $600. If you're on a budget, consider just getting the AVR and front left and right speakers for now. Add the center, surrounds, and a subwoofer of your choice, as your budget allows in whatever order you prefer. I can guarantee you it will sound better than any possible set up with you existing Sony speakers.
u/MrBrightside1009 · 3 pointsr/hometheater

This is a solid system and should be pretty future-proofed with that receiver in the case that you want to upgrade the channels.

If you're will to put in a little work, I think you can build a better sounding set for that price.

Two pairs of the Micca 42MBX for the fronts and surrounds:
http://amzn.com/B00E7H8GG2
-- These speakers earned high praise and recommendation in the audiophile community (particularly AVSForums) for their fantastic sound quality, which got me to purchase them for my own system. Love them dearly!

The matching center channel:
http://amzn.com/B00HHFBEK6

That together is about $300.

You can then use the giftcard for a subwoofer:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pioneer-subwoofer-black/5086873.p?id=1218610014537&skuId=5086873

A solid receiver:
http://amzn.com/B00ILCS182

Plus all your cables and banana plugs from Monoprice. You might even have some money left over to get an extra pair of the Micca speakers to make it a 7.1.

u/CoupleTryingGWout · 3 pointsr/hometheater

With your budget, if you don't want to go modular and add the pieces as you go along and get a 5.1 right away, think this seems like a decent package that you'll be very happy with for a good couple of years:

These Pionneer towers x2

And the surrounds

And center that go with the set

This sub seems very well liked around here

The amp you mentionned (I have had RX-V657 for years, very good) is also very good an will be plenty

rest on cables and stuff if you need, go to http://www.monoprice.com

All that should come in around your budget!

Cheers and have fun!

u/sk00ter21 · 1 pointr/hometheater

I've only used really stands like this one for PC speakers, they work fine but don't look all that great:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000VRREPG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share.

I think you're going to be really impressed with that setup, good luck!

u/explosivo563 · 1 pointr/hometheater

Here is what I would go for. I plan to upgrade to this sub and this 5.1 setup. I'll probably use my micca mb42x for rears though. They are currently my fronts. But the dipoles I listed look awesome. You can use most bookshelves for rears so you can easily adjust your budget accordingly. Some just mount on the wall easier than others.

Receiver $200-$250 new or refurb Denon

Fluance sx6 $130 (also in black)

Fluance center $80

Fluance bipole rears $120

Bic America Sub $180 or Dayton 1000 for $109

EDIT: So you can easily get this under $700 or even $600 depending on what kind of rears you want, or the sub. Even a cheaper receiver can be found depending on what you want. Also amazon has a great return policy so I almost always go with used in good condition. They give heavy discounts on refurbs just for an item that gets opened and returned.

u/Magoo2 · 1 pointr/hometheater

To give some different perspective as someone who worked with a budget much like yours, what I ended up going with was:

  • Receiver: Denon S510BT, $230***
  • L/R: Micca MB42X, $80/pair
  • Center: Micca MB42X-C, $80
  • Rears: Sound Appeal SA-VF6.5S, $60

    That comes out to $450, so you can spend the remaining $50 on a mounting solution for your rears, if necessary. I did all my research on Zeos' subreddit.

    It's got a center for dialogue, it's 5.0 (so I guess the one clear downside is no subwoofer within budget for you), and it's not a HTiB.

    Full disclosure, I did end up upgrading my L/R MB42X's to a pair of MB42X-C's, just because I could then take the MB42X's and put them elsewhere in the house, but that doesn't really change my recommendation of the base setup at all.

    ***The only caveat I would offer with regards to the setup is to look at the various receivers at this price point to make sure you get the features you would want. For example, from my perspective, a receiver with support ARC would be better and the ability to use banana plugs would be a nice to have (both of which the S510BT doesn't support). They aren't major gripes because you can get around ARC by using optical out from your source, and regular wiring isn't that big a deal, but it's things I didn't realize had to be considered when I started this journey, so I'd be remiss if I didn't mention it here.
u/Ph0X · 1 pointr/hometheater

Ended up getting something completely different.

Got this receiver from amazon:
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B010BHSXYQ

although for 550$

I also got this full audio set from shop.ca:
http://www.shop.ca/c/jbl-nightlife-home-theatre-speaker-package-nightlife-Nightlife-Speaker-Package-24866196

Price shown there (but it's out of stock now of course).

After further research, I also had to get the following cables to set it all up:

http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B006LW0W5Y

http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B005LJQMZC

And an HDMI cable

It's very different than everything here, but yeah the deals in my main post ended up running out so I had to find something else. I believe those were good deals and I'm really enjoying the setup now.

But yeah I'm not really an audiophile either so I can't really help you much more than tell you what I got, which isn't really on sale anymore so not worth getting maybe? Although this receiver is amazing so far, even if I have nothing to compare it against.

u/Emintea · 2 pointsr/hometheater

I don't even have a setup yet, so please, someone correct me if I am leading this person astray, but from my own individual research it seems one of the better and more expandable budget setups involves...

u/shithawks_circling · 0 pointsr/hometheater

I have these speakers and these stands. I'm sure there's better out there, but for $120, these are nice enough compact bookshelf speakers and adjustable height stands that work well for me. I have them paired with considerably nicer fronts and sub, and am quite happy with the overall sound.

u/SicilSlovak · 3 pointsr/hometheater

I think DriedT meant r/Zeos.

r/Zeos has some great budget setup threads in there. Here's the budget 2.1 set up thread, covering the gambit of $150 - $1500+ set ups.

EDIT: The Micca Motion Series MB42 Bookshelf Speakers are currently out of stock on Amazon, but if you're not in a rush and would like to save a few bucks (over his replacement recommendation, which runs $70), check back once a day or so, as a 3rd party might get a few in stock. I picked my brother up a set for $47 just a week ago after a 3rd party vendor posted a handful. They were gone by the next day.

I spoke with u/ZeosPantera (r/Zeos' mod), and he also recommended the Dayton Audio B652 bookshelf speakers, which run $52. EDIT 2: He no longer recommends them.

u/r0ttennes · 1 pointr/hometheater

Do you plan on or have any interest in potentially upgrading to a 5.1+ setup in the future?

Just in case you're not familiar, what you are describing is a 2.1 setup. The first number is the # of speakers. The second number is # of subwoofers. You might also see something like 7.2.4 which means 7 speakers (front L/R, Center, Surround L/R, Rear L/R), 2 subwoofers, and 4 height channels or atmos speakers.

If you think you may want to upgrade to a setup like this in the future, it would be worth it to invest in an AV receiver right now, if space/budget permits. There are many great options but some popular ones are below.

Denon AVR-S540BT (Factory Refurbished) - $199

Denon AVR-X1400H (Factory Refurbished) - $289

Also, for the Micca's, you should look into the x versions which means they have a crossover.

Micca MB42x - $79

One thing to note is that these are rear-ported so you would typically not want to put these right up against the wall. As for putting them on stands or your entertainment center/tv stand, it doesn't really matter but there are some guidelines for speaker placement to optimize the sound.

u/RakeattheGates · 1 pointr/hometheater

Thanks for weighing in, I appreciate it!

And is there a noticeable difference between this receiver and the one you linked? Rather, would it be worth saving the 50 bucks or should I go in on the best receiver I can afford? It's sort of hard to keep track of all the differences between them when I don't have any experience with them to start with, haha.

Also, there are loads of 2 piece speaker options on A4L for right around the same price as those Infinity's. Is there much of a difference between those and something like this or this? Orrr, and this is the last one, but cnet seems to love these so I'll throw it out there - I could get two of these Pioneer FS-52s for ~200, gently used. How about that Denon Receiver + those towers?

u/sk9592 · 1 pointr/hometheater

Ok, so these would be my recommendations for that price range:

Amplifier ($64) - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003OELGGG/

This is a very reasonable amp for the price. It is pretty good sound quality for this price range. It also has three RCA inputs in the back, and a 3.5 aux input in the front. This allows you to connect up to 4 different audio sources to it. It seems like you want to have several difference sources, so that's good.

This amp provides 120W per channel @ 4ohms. That means for a typical 8ohm bookshelf speaker, you're looking at 60W per channel. That means it can get really fucking loud.

Speakers ($65) - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002RMPHMU/

These are actually excellent bookshelf speakers for the price and several times better sound quality than the ones you originally linked to. These come with speaker cable, so you don't need to buy that separately.

USB Charger ($11) - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LCDJ7LG/

You wanted USB charging for an iPhone/iPad. This Anker charger is very high quality and provides 2.4 amps to each of its two USB ports. That means it will charge two iPads at full speed, and charge an iPhone significantly faster than the cube charger that it comes with.

Bluetooth Receiver ($23) - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KXYXXK2/

Pretty self explanatory. It receives bluetooth audio from a phone/tablet/laptop and sends it to the amp. It can be connected to the amp through a 3.5mm to RCA cable. It is also NFC enabled so it can pair with Android phones super easily.

CD Player ($35) - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007F9XHBI/

With was actually pretty tough. No one seems to sell stand alone CD players anymore. There is no market for them. You might as well plug in a portable CD player. The next best option is to plug in a DVD player through RCA audio cables (the red and white ones). It might seem silly, but it works just fine. You don't need to plug into a TV at all, since there are playback controls on the DVD player itself, and the small screen on it will tell you track info. Honestly, there is no point in buying a new one. If you have an old DVD/CD player laying around the house or can buy one on Craigslist for $10, go for it.

Record Player ($99) - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008872SIO/

Recored playback seemed to be kinda optional for you, so this will take you over budget a little. However, I already mentioned, all-in-one systems with a record player built-in sound terrible and ruin your records. The record player I'm suggesting really is the cheapest decent one you can buy new. It's the one to get if you care about good sound quality and not ruining your records.

This nice thing about this set-up is that it's completely modular. Over the years, you can upgrade or replace individual components without trashing the whole thing.

Let me know if you have any questions about these components or anything else.

u/psycholis · 1 pointr/hometheater

There's a lot of things going on here but most of it is probably over your $200 budget. Even most entry level receivers are just starting at that price point but you could save money but getting one refurbished. I'm also unclear about how you hooked up a subwoofer (which subwoofer?) to that receiver as it has no pre-outs. Did you use the line in on the back of the sub in parallel with your main speakers? I have done this with my desktop setup and there's no way I wouldn't notice the difference from adding a sub, even a cheap 8" sony or polk.

To answer your question though, a speaker upgrade would probably be your best bet with favorites like the Miccas or Pioneers immediately coming to mind. The great thing about both is that they have matching center channels to upgrade to in the future.

u/A_Bag_Full_of_Poops · 8 pointsr/hometheater

Hello, fellow Canadian!

DO NOT BUY THIS SYSTEM. You can get a MUCH better system for $25.49 more.

Check this out:

ELAC F5 Towers - $839.98

ELAC B4 Surrounds - $269.99

ELAC C5 Center - $319.99

BIC F12 Subwoofer - $295.53 (incl. shipping)

Sub-Total: $1725.49

I would recommend just getting ELAC B5s or B6s for the front speakers and you can save a couple hundred dollars more (which I might put towards a better subwoofer or a second subwoofer).

Sorry I wrote all that without directly addressing your question, but that Polk package is bad value (even though it's on sale) and the included subwoofer is a pile of steaming shyte.

So, for pairing speakers with a receiver, pretty much anything works. Denon, Marantz, and Yamaha are the most recommended brands here.

Gibby's Electronics sells the Denon X1300 for $399.99 (b-stock) but they're out of stock. They also have the S710W for $399.99 (b-stock, I don't get the pricing), which is probably your best option unless you're willing to wait for b-stock to come in for the X1300.

u/portezbie · 3 pointsr/hometheater

Hi, I actually had the exact same dilemma as you and about a month ago went for a 2.0 setup.

In the past I've tried a variety of computer speakers and nothing cut it. I never tried a soundbar, but I am super happy with my 2.0 setup.

So here is my $200 set up (big thanks to Zeos for helping me learn and pick out the parts):

$109 manufacturer refurbished Denon AVR 1513 receiver:

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavr1513/denon-avr-1513-5.1ch-home-theater-receiver-3d-ready/1.html?_escaped_fragment_=specifications#!specifications

$80 Micca MB42x bookshelf speakers:

http://amzn.to/188rnsc

$9.43 Speaker wire:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006LW0W5Y/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=YEA53M3RQ14Z&coliid=I31E8R7IOVMB4E

This is the wire stripper I bought but it is no longer available for prime so I would get a different one:

http://www.amazon.com/Irwin-2078305-Vise-Grip-5-Inch-Stripper/dp/B000JNLUQ6/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1394413512&sr=8-13&keywords=wire+stripper

Maybe get this one (but any will probably be fine):

http://www.amazon.com/Gardner-GS-40-Milwaukee-Clipper-Stripper/dp/B00004WLJX/ref=sr_1_11?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1396936022&sr=1-11&keywords=wire+stripper

Lastly, banana plugs for the wires. Optional, but nice to have ($10.96):

http://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-109436-High-Quality-Copper-Speaker/dp/B0097JLQVC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1394413889&sr=8-2&keywords=banana+plug

Total: ~ $250 with tax and shipping and whatnot.

One last piece of advice:

I originally tried the popular Lepai amp and hated it. I just couldn't get the volume I wanted from it.

u/85Brougham_onZs · 1 pointr/hometheater

I was going to get those ELAC bookshelves because of the unanimous great reviews and low price, and I probably should have waited for them to come back in stock. I ended up heading off to Best Buy for something else but when browsing around I saw they had some Andrew Jones Pioneer speakers for cheap, so I bought a pair. I thought they were nice for what I use them for, but lacked bass. So I went back the next day for the subwoofer. So far I enjoy them. Without having tried the ELAC speakers I wouldn't necessarily recommend these over them, but for budget towers I'm happy with what I bought. No room for surround sound at the moment, but when I can I'd like to finish off the set

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-FS52-LR-Designed-standing-Loudspeaker/dp/B008NCD2S4

u/miglas · 1 pointr/hometheater

Ok, this will require a bit of rigging up, but would sound pretty good, I think. Buy a set of decent bookshelf speakers, like these, then get this little amp to power them, then get this bluetooth adapter to make it a bluetooth system. Whole thing would be $100. You'd also need the speaker wire and banana plugs to plug into the speakers. You could buy a cheaper set of speakers to save money.