(Part 3) Top products from r/Games

I play both console and PC, there's serious positives and negatives to both but I want to set a few things straight.

controllers, keep in mind this is the equivalent of buying a mouse and keyboard for PC gaming and Alot of PC gamers own $50+ mice/keyboards.

Yes first party Wireless controllers are $50 new, but they're usually on sale for $40 or less wired are $40 new but again usually on sale, I got mine a few months ago for $25

Also there's some decent enough third party controllers that cost less such as afterglow And some that cost a little more This is Xbox prices mind you, they're the more expensive of the two and there's considerably less third party support on the Xbox

Headsets

The best (in my opinion) mono set for the Xbox is $10 But usable ones are as cheap as [$5] (http://www.amazon.com/KMD-Xbox-360-Live-Gaming-Headset/dp/B003A71XKQ/ref=pd_cp_e_0). Stereo headsets cost a bit more at $30 and up but thats the same on the PC too.

Also console games drop in price relatively quickly with one exception, the COD series.

Otherwise I agree with you.

You can either play them chronologically in the order in which the games were released (I recommend this), or play them chronologically in the order in which the story occurs. Either is fine but definitely do not skip the original Metal Gear Solid.

My recommendation is to buy either:

• Metal Gear Solid: The Essential Collection for PS2, which contains MGS1, MGS2, and MGS3, then buy MGS4 for the PS3, or
  
  
• The original PS1 Metal Gear Solid + Metal Gear Solid: HD Collection for PS3 which contains MGS2, MGS3, and MGS:PW, then buy MGS4 for the PS3.
  
  I don't know about you, but I find it difficult to start from newer games going into older games because you get "spoiled" by the updated combat mechanics of the newer games, which could make playing the older games more tedious. If you play the older ones first, you'll appreciate the better combat mechanics of the newer games. Having said that, I think that Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes for Gamecube isn't as clunky as the original since it's a remake. TBQH with you, though, it's probably not as bad as you might think.

A couple things that I think you're missing are that games do get cheaper with age even on the consoles, so they're not always way up there at $60. I can buy a copy of Mass Effect 3 on the console for under $20 right now. I can buy Halo 4, a Triple-A console exclusive from 6 months ago for under $30.

As far as discounts from Steam and other sites, most of those are joint ventures with the publishers that could exist in the console space as well. Valve has come out and said that the Steam Sales are great for profits, and shares that data with publishers to get them on board for more. Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo don't control the prices of games, the publishers do, and there's no reason to think that they wouldn't organize sales for their digital distribution platforms as well after seeing it's great for revenue. Sales like that aren't feasible in the brick-and-mortar world of game sales because of the prohibitive nature of organization and promotion. It's nothing comparable to loading up the online store and seeing "25%-75% off Ubisoft Titles this week only!"

Most SRPGs take place on some sort of isometric grid, whereas Valkyria Chronicles is almost more like a 3rd person cover based shooter.
As a result, the action feels more real-timey (even though it's still technically turn-based).

Also all of the characters have unique personalities. You can even recruit a gay Bender (Same voice actor). The classes are also well realized. The story is cool too, although I can't remember it well enough right now to try and describe it. I'd also like to reiterate that the art is amazing(Spoilers here). And I love the music. And did I mention you get a tank? Also, it's by the same director as Skies of Arcadia. Plus, it's pretty cheap.

Yes, but console gamers have never had to purchase additional input devices to have new experiences on their platform. No console manufacturer has ever expanded on their initial controllers to try to provide a more robust experience.

Also, KB/M is the superior control scheme for all games. Developers should be expected to release a PC game with KB/M controls that are flawless for the genre. There is no reason that any other input mechanism might enhance any PC gaming experience.

edit: This is also not KB/M but I guarantee you would like to experience it.

I love Metal Gear... and I already have two collections:

Metal Gear: The Essential Collection released in 2008 (this one was criticized by some for not including the Gamecube remake, but rather including a PS1 disk)

Metal Gear Solid: HD Collection released 2011 (again avoids any remake of MGS1 or GCN port, also leaves out Portable Ops: is basically MSG2, 3, and Peace Walker)

Is this a new thing? Release a random collection of MG games every 3 years? If there's an HD remake of the original Metal Gear (a la, the project they shut down) and MG2.. along with a port/remake of the GCN version - that would be worthwhile I guess.

If it's HD-collection redux with slightly "more HD" versions of the previous games....? I can't see them having done proper remakes in this time frame. Previous HD collection + Ground Zeroes? Same issue.

My friend and I play Euro Truck Sim 2 with the Logitech Driving Force GT. It's got 900° rotation (which is actually more than most of the trucks in that game, but it is tweakable in the options to line it up perfectly) and the shifter works really well too, if not simplistically. The Logitech G27 is pretty good too, but I've found that the 6-position shifter can be picky about the clutch. There's no analog use of the clutch, it reads it as either a digital up or down, and if you release the clutch before getting the stick all the way into the gear you want, it will just pop you into neutral. I suppose if you're really looking for immersion though, that would be the wheel to go with.

Almost definitely not

Back in the day game development almost never paid royalties, it was usually an up-front and milestone payments, or a lump sum upon completion. Many game devs were using the payment from the publisher for their last game to pay salaries to develop their next game

If you're interested, "Stay Awhile and Listen" is a pretty great book covering the origins of Blizzard North, including their history of developing shovelware on contract to afford to develop later games

>Overall, I think $300 is a very fair price for a new system, especially considering that's how much you have to pay to get a decent 360.

No.

Yes, it has laughably little storage. So does the $300 WiiU. The xbox360 uses a laptop-size harddrive in an enclosure, and can be swapped out for a larger one with a little effort. The WiiU appears to be locked down.

It's also worth noting that you can easily get a "decent" xbox360 secondhand.

If the quantity and quality of releases is anything like it was on the Wii, $300 is very steep for something which most people will use sparingly for two years.

Obviously not exactly the same, but Metal Gear Solid is pretty good about this (especially in re-releases, such as...).

> Valkeria Chronicles on PS3

You mean like under $20 new? Maybe they don't have digital distribution for it, but it definitely is easily available for a reasonable price.

http://www.amazon.com/Valkyria-Chronicles-Playstation-3/dp/B0016C3260

Check out what this user found:

>Heh, you can, actually. Just doing a quick look at Amazon gives all three games for $39.80[1][2][3].

>I'm not sure re the DLC cost, going by this site, Bring Down the Sky was free for PC, Pinnacle Station is $5, Cerebus Network is free (now), Zaeed / Firewalker Pack / Cerebus Assault / Arc Projector / Crash site were free with it, and you'd get the "online pass" thing with purchase so that's free. So total cost is $44.80 for what they're going to sell for $60. That's pretty ballsy.

If that's not ripping buyers off, I'm not sure what is.

Yes, for their physical items. Try adding a digital Kindle book to the cart, and it won't let you: https://www.amazon.com/Stay-Awhile-Listen-Legendary-Video-Game-ebook/dp/B00G8UL474

https://i.imgur.com/f5LA5hq.png

Or a digital movie: https://i.imgur.com/T3u4HAT.png

Digitals play by different rules. Guess which one EGS sells? Even iTunes and Google Play will do the same

Heh, you can, actually. Just doing a quick look at Amazon gives all three games for $39.80[1][2][3].

I'm not sure re the DLC cost, going by this site, Bring Down the Sky was free for PC, Pinnacle Station is $5, Cerebus Network is free (now), Zaeed / Firewalker Pack / Cerebus Assault / Arc Projector / Crash site were free with it, and you'd get the "online pass" thing with purchase so that's free. So total cost is $44.80 for what they're going to sell for $60. That's pretty ballsy.

If you are in the US, you can buy Bioshock Infinite for $25.49 on Amazon. Steam activated
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>Step 1: Go to http://www.amazon.com/2K-Games-BioShock-Infinite-Download/dp/B009SPZ11Q/
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>Step 2: Apply coupon at checkout: gooncave
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>Final Price: $25.49
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>Step 3: Amazon will email you the steam key
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Enjoy!

Anyone recommend a bluetooth device so I could connect a wiimote to my pc?

Would something like this work?

Most people probably won't agree (or didn't even know it was possible), but Wii Classic Controller/Classic Controller Pro with the Mayflash converter is another option. If you get the Classic Controller Pro with Mayflash, it actually comes out a little cheaper than the 360 controller.

That being said, there are some conversion issues which require some other programs to work with. Still, it's a nice controller.

Yeah I looked up the right one, the g27 is $430 on newegg and $600 on amazon

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B001NT9TK4/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104330

any idea if a wireless instrument would work with something like this? My friend uses this for his 360 controller. In theory it should work, but I can't give you anything 100% on that.

I'm kind of split. I do feel that the community generally does a better job of evaluating games than rushed professional critics who have to crank out review after review, and aggregators like Metacritic in particular do a poor job of capturing nuance, there are occasional instances where mob mentality takes over and one or two displeasing aspects of an otherwise decent game end up resulting in hundreds of one-star reviews (example: Mass Effect 3, which is mostly a good game with a poorly executed ending). I could see the Metascore acting as a hedge against these mobs.

This is a pretty shitty deal then. PS3 owners are really the only ones getting anything out of this and if you already own Mass Effect 2 and 3 you can buy Mass Effect 1 as a digital download on the PSN.

Amazon actually has Mass Effect 3 on sale for $20 right now on any platform. Origin was selling it for $16 just last month.

If you can wait until a holiday sale you can probably get Mass Effect 1 and 2 for $10-15 total. Amazon had each on sale for $5 last February.

There's a nice book detailing the early years of Blizzard, Stay Awhile and Listen

You may also like...

Stay a While and Listen.

A book that details the early days of Blizzard Entertainment and how the world's biggest game company came to start up.

I would highly recommend a controller. If you have a 360 controller available, you can get a wireless adapter for it here for about 10$ after shipping.

it's like $18 on amazon.

I've kept my controller budget under $150 via garage sales and Amazon deals.

$15 360 reciever

$20 Dolphin bar

$12 n64 Controllers. These don't have great cable lengths and the analog sticks don't work perfectly, but mapping n64 buttons to a 360 controller was a nightmare. These were worth the hassle and price.

Anyone interested in getting Sniper Elite V2 - it's been $15 on Amazon all week, and uses Steamworks DRM. Meaning no matter where you get it, it activates on Steam.

http://amzn.com/B008K2WRYC

Anywhere?

You can get one off Newegg or Amazon for around that cheap. Both wired and wireless are around the same price, and they go on sale quite often. I bought one not long ago for $18.99 off Newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16874103205

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16874103325

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003ZSN600

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003ZSP0WW

Here’s the top two on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VWEK4IG

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007Q45EF4

And here’s the Best Buy one:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-bluetooth-4-0-usb-adapter-black/5655065.p?id=1219147137699&skuId=5655065

They all seem to be the same thing but just rebranded. No idea how reliable they can be, but they’re cheap. I just plugged mine into a USB port, and I guess Windows 10 found the driver online right away because it worked as soon as I did the steps to pair my controller with the computer. Here’s the guide I followed:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/1p9y0l/pairing_your_ds4_controller_via_bluetooth/

Looks like the list price is $50, but Amazon has them for $37

Don't buy Sniper Elite V2 from Steam. Amazon has it for $14.99, which redeems on Steam anyway.

Link

Amazon has it in stock for $10

You can find it on Amazon, eBay, or most websites. http://www.amazon.com/The-World-Ends-With-Nintendo-DS/dp/B00136MBHA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407856105&sr=8-1&keywords=the+world+ends+with+you

It's scheduled to come out on the eshop at some point, at least according to Wikipedia. God knows when though. At the very least, you can now find it on Amazon for an affordable price. It may not be the most reasonable for a 2.5 year old game, but at least it's not going for $200 anymore.

No issues at all on my end like that. Here is the bluetooth adapter I am using.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007Q45EF4/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

>Top tier games cost just as much on Steam

Disregarding that this isn't really true, steam is not the only digital sales store in the deep discount game.

For Example: Today there are sales on DmC (Released 2013) for $12.50 and Bioshock Infinite (Released 2013) for $9.99. You can also get Arkham Origins for $34.20 with a bunch of DLC (Not even Released yet).

You can't tell me you get those kinds of sales on a console (This isn't even bringing up holiday sales events).

https://www.amazon.com/Wii-Mini-Console-MotionPlus-Bundle-Nintendo/dp/B00AJZNUUI

It was released around the same time as the Wii U I think.

XenoBlade Chronicles https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007RNWUC4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_HpVCwbR5XP2XH


Less than $60 new and it'll get to you in two days.

Most likely just a placeholder.

http://www.amazon.com/Watch-Dogs-playstation-4/dp/B00BI83EVU/ref=pd_sim_vg_10

http://www.amazon.com/Assassins-Creed-Black-Flag-playstation-4/dp/B00BMFIXOW/ref=pd_sim_vg_1

etc..

http://www.amazon.com/Watch-Dogs-playstation-4/dp/B00BI83EVU

http://www.amazon.com/Watch-Dogs-playstation-4/dp/B00BI83EVU/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1370920725&sr=1-2&keywords=ps4+games

Persona 5
The Last of Us

Here you got two. One from Atlus and the other one from Sony.

And there are generic adapters all over the place, including $10 on Amazon. I've had zero issues with one.

[Watch Dogs] (http://www.amazon.com/Watch-Dogs-playstation-4/dp/B00BI83EVU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1370920831&sr=8-2&keywords=playstation+4)

[AC IV] (http://www.amazon.com/Assassins-Creed-Black-Flag-playstation-4/dp/B00BMFIXOW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1370920831&sr=8-3&keywords=playstation+4)

[Thief 4] (http://www.amazon.com/Thief-4-playstation/dp/B00C27SCC2/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1370920831&sr=8-5&keywords=playstation+4)

Every game I can find

Uh...what? These were almost all DS exclusives.

The World Ends With You, Kingdom Hearts, Kingdom Hearts, 999, Chinatown Wars, Chrono Trigger, Castlevania, Contra, Elite Beat Agents, Phoenix Wright, Professor Layton, Scribblenauts and N+

How old?
NES

N64

Gamecube

You know that brand-new consoles these days are only $250, right?

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-3-160GB-System/dp/B003VUO6H4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346445617&sr=8-1&keywords=ps3
http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-4GB-Console/dp/B003O6JKLC/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1346445632&sr=1-1&keywords=xbox+360

Ahhh, I see. What you're referring to as the classic controller others are saying is the pro controller.

Apparently, this is the classic controller and the one you are showing is called the classic controller pro.

There is an Xbox 360 with 4 GB http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-4GB-Console/dp/B003O6JKLC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1376935568&sr=8-1&keywords=xbox+4gb

Is it really the naming schemes though? The Wii and WiiU Both had equivalent "Pro" controllers. I think for a lot of people when nintendo says "pro controller" it is assumed to be the non-gimmick controller.

The GMG coupon no longer works, but Amazon has Bioshock Infinite for $30 and has an extra 15% off coupon with the code 'Gooncave' so you can get it for $25.50

Not sure if sniper elite is going to drop anymore but you might wanna check out Amazon only $14.99

Yup, I thought it was weird too - IIRC, the Wii Mini didn't sell too well. It originally retailed for $99 if memory serves.

Yeah, what could go wrong? The Wii Mini sold so well!

Oh wait.

Persona 5 PS3 from Amazon

Playstation 3 from Amazon

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Both new, not preowned.

Don't try pull that bullshit, the PS3 production may have ceased it's still perfectly feasible to buy the game and a new PS3 in the wild.

You might have an argument 12-18 months from now. But the emulation isn't being done in 12 months.

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The game is also a digital download on PS3, so it's going to be a while before you can argue it's truly not available.

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>I want a pc port. I will buy the game if its on my platform. They just dont want to sell it to me.

Which is irrelevant to that fact that you can legimately buy a new PS3 copy of the game to be a legally covered emulation. A copy which Atlus will see money from.

Your stance on this is the very reason why piracy gets emulation in shit.

Because you have an "I want it my way" attitude. And are looking for any possible excuse you can find to justify your actions.

Which is worse because emulation has provided you with a legally approved way of playing the game. Provided you go and buy a fucking physical copy.

Better? Version of the above comment:

In that case, I will re-post it here.

Good and/or Great space games, most of which I have played:

NOTE: This comment lists prices and online stores, I last checked the prices some time ago. There may now be a better deal(sale?) or a more trustworthy seller(some of the older games may have been added to gog), please check before purchasing any of them.

Real Time 4x game with both planet surface and space ships parts:

Open Imperium Galactica. You can get it here. (Free)

Imperium Galactica II (I would argue that this is the best strategy game that I have ever played, as you might have noticed, I have played many of them.) - ($22.50)





Light of Altair ($14.99)

Real Time 4x game with space ships part, but no planet surface part:

Distant Worlds - (39.99) (especially with the expansions)



Haegemonia: Legions of Iron - ($9.99)



Sins of a Solar Empire Trinity ($19.99) and the Rebellion expansion ($39.99)

Warpath (old game) abandonware?

Star Ruler ($19.99)

Turn based 4x game with space ships and planet surface part:

Galactic Civilizations II: Ultimate Edition - ($19.99)



Space Empires IV and V - ($19.99)



Turn based 4x game with space ships, but no planet surface part:

Master of Orion 2 - ($9.99)



Sword Of The Stars Complete Collection - ($19.99)

Sword of the Stars II: Lords of Winter ($29.99) (NOTE: This game was almost unplayable at launch but has been fixed since then.)

or get both for $39.99


Endless Space ($29.99)

Turn based 4x game, with only planet surface parts:

Alpha Centauri and Alien Crossfire expansion - ($5.49)



UFO Afterlight(Only XCOM inspired game, there is like twenty of them, not set on earth) - ($9.99)


or get it as part of the 1C pack ($39.99)


Real Time Strategy game with space ships, but no planet surface part:

Homeworld - ([$9.54](http://www.amazon.com/Homeworld-Pc/dp/B00001LDCK/ref=pd_bxgy_vg_img_y
))


Homeworld Cataclysm - ($26.50)



Homeworld 2 - ($10.29)



Offworld Resource Base - ($7.32) (a lot like homeworld)



Genesis Rising - ([$4.99](
http://store.steampowered.com/app/3230/?snr=1_7_7_151_150_1)) (also a bit like homeworld, just nowhere near as good)


Conquest: Frontier Wars - ($20.00)



Space Pirates and Zombies ($9.99)

Real Time Strategy game , with only planet surface parts:

StarCraft - ($14.99)



StarCraft 2 - ($39.99)



Dune 2000 - ($13.00)



Emperor: Battle for Dune - ($33.00)



Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War Platinum - ($29.95)



Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War II - ($19.99)



Universe at War: Earth Assault ($19.99)

Supreme Commander - ($14.99)



Supreme Commander 2 ($14.99)

Space station/colony building/management

Spacecolony - ($2.50)



Startopia - ($5.99)



Colony building/space trade simulator

Space Bucks - ($1.99) (Warning: this game is a pain to get working on modern systems. You would need to install win 3.1 and then install the game on it)

Space combat simulator:


Nexus: The Jupiter Incident - ($9.99)

SOL: Exodus ($9.99)

Gratuitous Space Battles ($14.99)

Diaspora: Shattered Armistice (Free)

Space trading and combat simulator:

Freelancer - ($7.99)

X3: Terran Conflict ($15.99) (all X3 games are good actually)

Freespace - ($5.99)



Freespace 2 - ($5.99)



Darkstar One ($7.99)

Evochron Mercenary ($24.99)

Roguelike/strategy/adventure

FTL: Faster than Light ($8.99)



Weird Worlds: Return to Infinite Space - ($19.96)

Transcendence (Free)

You believe wrong.

https://www.amazon.com/Persona-5-PlayStation-3-Standard/dp/B01GKHJP4I/ref=sr_1_3_twi_gam_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1465658602&sr=1-3&keywords=persona+5

It's $20 on Amazon.
Edit: Sorry, wasn't reading close enough earlier. Didn't realize you were in Australia. :(

I think that's because the UK had a much larger print run than the NA run. I don't know if you can see this from the UK, but here's the NA page for Xenoblade: http://www.amazon.com/XenoBlade-Chronicles-RP-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B007RNWUC4/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1373145903&sr=1-1&keywords=XenoBlade

The cheapest used copy costs $94.99 + $3.99 shipping. Lowest brand new price is $194.99 + $3.99 shipping.

Something is seriously wrong with that price. The most recent Amazon.com price was $191

Unless you only play sidescrollers (sucks to be you), I don't see why you would base your purchase of a controller on that. The analog stick placement on the dualshock are an order of magnitude worse than the D-Pad on the 360 controller.

You can buy USB NES pads for side scrollers and shit. Or just use the keyboard.

The PS3 version is not Japan-only. It released simultaneously with the PS4 version in Japan and abroad, but in the US was only sold by GameStop, Amazon, and a few specialty retailers.

>I hear it ran poorly on PS3, though. Something about really horrible load times. But I think that wouldn't be an issue for the Switch's flash memory.

PS3 version runs at a lower resolution (iirc 720p vs. 1080p) and has slightly longer load-times (yet doesn't qualify as "horrible"), and is identical in terms of content.

Older games that still hold up:

Freelancer (You might just have to pirate this one as getting a legit copy can be difficult some times)

Freespace 2

Independence War I and II

Contemporary games:

Evochron Mercenary

X3 series

Kerbal Space Program



Games still in development:

Elite: Dangerous (Paid Beta)

Star Citizen (Paid Alpha)

No Man's Sky (unknown)

Limit Theory (unknown)

Enemy Star Fighter (Unknown)

The Mandate (Unkown)

Void Destroyer (Early Access)

Rogue System (Unknown)

Classics:

Elite and Elite 2

Wing Commander Series

XWing and Tie Fighter games


Free Games:

Diaspora

Pioneer

Orbiter