Reddit reviews Seasonic S12II 620 SS-620GB 620W 80+ Bronze ATX12V & EPS12V Direct Cable Wire 105 °C Japanese Capacitor 5 Year Warranty Power Supply

If anyone is looking for a 620W Seasonic Bronze unit, there's one from amazon for $70 here

https://www.amazon.ca/Seasonic-Bronze-80Plus-Power-Supply/dp/B003BIEOCI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493873468&sr=8-1&keywords=seasonic+s12ii

Though it's not semi-modular.

If I were you, the first step I would take is to get rid of the PSU. I will come to that later.

If you are a casual gamer, then 60hz will be more than enough. The rest depends on you. You also need it for graphics, so an IPS panel is a must. Price will depend on what screen size you want.

Now coming to the important thing, discard that PSU. Don't cheap out on an important component. I will list you good PSUs with room for future upgrade from one of my recent comment. These are all good PSUs, and you can blindly choose any of them. Prices will be low if you check out local sellers. You can buy 520/550w PSU, but that is purely your choice. I suggested 650w cause you will have ample room if you decide to buy even more powerful Graphics card. Don't go for any 450w PSU.

If you are sure you might try SLI in near future, then you must get at least a minimum of 850w.

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-RM650x-Modular-Supply-Certified/dp/B015YEIBJ8

http://www.amazon.in/Seasonic-SSR-550RT-S12G-Power-Supply/dp/B00FW6EICS

http://www.amazon.in/Seasonic-M12II-620-M12II-620-Watt-Modular/dp/B003HE260I

Or

http://www.amazon.in/Seasonic-S12II-620-BRONZE-SS-620GB/dp/B003BIEOCI

This is a bit of an overkill, but a great PSU from EVGA
http://www.amazon.in/SuperNOVA-750WSemi-Modular-Crossfire-110-B2-0750-VR/dp/B00KFAFRW6

Thank you. I've just spent £68 on this Seasonic PSU which should arrive on Tuesday. Your list has it in tier 2 but another has it in tier 3. I trust it'll be ok for my system though?

Tier 3. You could get something much better for the same price but with 30W less. This one is in the second tier. You can still SLI if you want to in a few years (but on Linux, don't count on it before Vulkan and its explicit multiadapter tech becomes a thing).

My power supply is Seasonic 620w

here

That PSU looks like a bit of a no-no to me. Not a brand name and it's Micro-ITX. this would be a much better choice. Also, I would advise going with a HDD for storage and then a small (128/240GB) SSD for Windows and critical programs.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003BIEOCI/?tag=pcp0f-21

I agree, around 600w would be perfect for this build. I recommend the Seasonic 620W (only if you have prime though) or the EVGA 600B. If you don't mind the small bit of "ketchup and mustard" cabling, these would be great. If that cabling is a deal breaker, there are more expensive options like the EVGA 600BQ.

ok so for your budget I picked 2 units.

Seasonic S12II at £63
fluid dynamic bearing fan, all japanese caps,5 year warranty,40C operating temp

and

EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G2 £85

OEM is Super Flower,7 year warranty,ball bearing fan, 650W, fully modular,japanese caps rated at 105C,unit rated at 50C operating temps

So basically for that extra £15 you get 2 more years warranty,higher operating temp, a few more watts,fully modular,etc,

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=429

heads up, this power supply has 100W more, and is cheaper on amazon https://www.amazon.ca/Seasonic-Bronze-80Plus-Power-Supply/dp/B003BIEOCI. same model.

though at ncix you do get a $10 MIR, i prefer not to deal with those if possible. I also trust amazon a hell of a lot more than ncix.

i haven't heard good things about ASRock recently, so i'd opt for a MSI B350 instead. it also has the "benefit" of being ATX, leaving you with a bit more space and leaving things a bit less cramped.

funny, i'm planning a new build and outside of the case and outside of the case (already own one) and a 6GB 1060 over a 4GB RX 580, our builds are almost exactly the same.

an ssd makes a huge difference, consider paying the premium on that and if you have to, cutting down on case costs (unless you care for aesthetics)

thank you for your response! After reading your post, and watching the video you linked I realized that I am gonna need to be patient, and just have tons of zip ties ready for this case but I know it's gonna be worth it if I can get everything where I want it. With the PSU i am having the most trouble picking one and now after your post/video I am even more worried about it! Is this one any good for the case? PSU![PSU!]

Too low quality. I suggest this one. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seasonic-S12-II-Bronze-Certified-Supply-x/dp/B003BIEOCI/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1491317143&sr=1-1&keywords=seasonic+620w

This one is pretty solid too if you want modular https://www.amazon.co.uk/Antec-Current-Modular-HCG-620M-Bronze/dp/B0079Y0EYM/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1491317143&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=seasonic+620w

It should be easy to add a PSU. Basically just plugging things in.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seasonic-S12-II-Bronze-Certified-Supply-x/dp/B003BIEOCI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487931418&sr=8-1&keywords=seasonic+bronze

pay a bit extra and get something better, the psu is the most important part in your system

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B003BIEOCI/?tag=pcp05-21 - ships to the Ukraine!

Looks good to me. Your power supply is ok. If you want a better one, it looks like this Seasonic S12II 620w is a few bucks more at Amazon Italy.

https://www.amazon.fr/Seasonic-S12II-620W-Alimentation-620-BRONZE/dp/B003BIEOCI/ref=sr_1_82?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1462982521&sr=1-82

Only AMD has a chance of making a gpu that will require a PSU bigger than what you have.

https://www.amazon.fr/BenQ-XL2411Z-Ecran-Gaming-1920x1080/dp/B00HZF2JWA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1463064215&sr=8-1&keywords=BenQ+XL2411Z#productDetails from what i found it can rotate every way possible

Unfortunately, yes, it might be a bit more in price, here is one to check out. It's up to you, but I find that the general consensus on this sub is to try not to skimp on the quality of the PSU.

Another stupid question. How can I figure that out? I know off the top of my head, my PSU is bronze rated, and I'm sure I can pull up the power output based on the model number of my PSU, but how do I make sure it can handle the additional load from the 1070?

Edit, found it! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003BIEOCI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Its this one

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003BIEOCI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Seasonic S12II-620W

Tier 2 PSU, can be had in your budget (In Euro).

German Link

But which size is the normal size? As i will most likely get a seasonic s12 / m12, i dont know which size is the right one

For example : https://www.amazon.de/Seasonic-S12II-620-Stromversorgung-620-ATX22/dp/B003BIEOCI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480167183&sr=8-1&keywords=seasonic+620

https://www.amazon.de/Seasonic-M12II-620-EVO-PC-Netzteil-Watt/dp/B00HHH8AA6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1480167183&sr=8-2&keywords=seasonic+620

though the sizes are in centimetres, you can tell that the m12 is bigger than the other.

Also on the side : with such a small case i think its better to get the modular one / m12?

Is this PSU reliable? The first one I bought was faulty but maybe I was just unlucky. Should I re-order this one of get a different one?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seasonic-S12-II-Bronze-Certified-Supply/dp/B003BIEOCI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504697005&sr=8-1&keywords=seasonic+power+supply

It will work fine as long as youre not doing any overclocking.

If you do want to overclock this is a decent psu:

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B003BIEOCI/?tag=pcp05-21

While its not as good as that corsair (tier 1) this one is tier 3

Here is a good list of psu tiers:

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/631048-psu-tier-list-updated/

Is this psu good? https://www.amazon.it/Seasonic-SS-620GB-Alimentatore-Bronze-620W/dp/B003BIEOCI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502640369&sr=8-1&keywords=seasonic+alimentatore&tag=tomsforum-21

i'm low on money, i can't afford anything more expensive (I'm refunding the corsair VS450 since many people told me it usually has a lot of problems)
the S12II 520w version is just 1€ cheaper, is the SS and S12II different in quality?

Well you could go with this Seasonic but I don't think the wattage was probably your problem, more than likely it was just a low budget psu.

Considering those brands, if 430W is insufficient, I end up with Seasonic S12-II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Wired Power Supply. Is this good?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seasonic-S12II-620-ATX12V-Standard-Supply/dp/B003BIEOCI/?tag=logicaincre05-21

https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-S12II-620-BRONZE-SS-620GB/dp/B003BIEOCI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481857379&sr=8-1&keywords=seasonic+s12+620

I would recommend this for your setup. You will need at leas 620 watts which this has but upgrading to a better known company such as evga or coolermaster would be better for preformance.

Those PSUs are kind of expensive on amazon france. Any other PSUs you could recommend or should I just go looking somewhere else?

EDIT: Would this seasonic PSU work?

how about this. 35 with rebate. https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-S12II-620-BRONZE-SS-620GB/dp/B003BIEOCI

I bought this psu yesterday, idk if you want a modular one, then go evga.

I'm trying to decide on a motherboard and I've narrowed it down to these two:

http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00K80N54K/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1X6FK5RDHNB96
http://www.amazon.fr/Gigabyte-H97-HD3-Carte-Socket-LGA1150/dp/B00K872GHU/ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1X6FK5RDHNB96

They are both H97 boards, so why is there is such a big difference in pricing?

Also for a GTX 760 + i5-4690K build, which of these should I go with:

http://www.amazon.fr/Seasonic-S12II-520W-Alimentation-520-BRONZE/dp/B00390P1NO/ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1X6FK5RDHNB96
http://www.amazon.fr/Seasonic-S12II-620W-Alimentation-620-BRONZE/dp/B003BIEOCI/ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1X6FK5RDHNB96

The Seasonic 520 is out of stock, but the 620 is in stock and available with Prime. Here's a link: https://smile.amazon.com/Seasonic-S12II-620-BRONZE-SS-620GB/dp/B003BIEOCI/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1492720744&sr=1-2&keywords=seasonic+620

> Seasonic S12/M12 II 620W.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seasonic-S12-II-Bronze-Certified-Supply-x/dp/B003BIEOCI/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491317237&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Seasonic+S12%2FM12+II+620W.

this one? Can I ask why you think it's low quality? I'm a complete PC noob so the last thing I want to do is cause damage.

Firstly let's optimize your base build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor | $329.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-AB350M-D3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $91.99 @ Amazon
Storage | PNY CS1311 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $49.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $54.99 @ Amazon
Case | Apevia X-QPACK3-PK MicroATX Mini Tower Case | $59.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply | SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $49.90 @ Amazon
Optical Drive | Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer | $19.95 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $656.80
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-02 07:49 EDT-0400 |

The GA-AB350-Gaming 3 and GA-AB350M-D3H are basically the same board for a build like this. They have the same VRM design and the extra features (LED strip, "better" on board sound (ALC1220), etc.) are not needed in this build. So save some money there.

For storage the extra 130GB on the SSD isn't worth the extra $50 and you can get an extra 1TB of storage with a reliable HGST (Hitachi) for the same price. No idea why people are picking up and recommending the cheaper Seagate/WD drives when year after year they are beaten by HGST drives.

As other people have mentioned already go with the SeaSonic power supply, Amazon will have stock for the SeaSonic S12II 620W pretty soon.

Since the build is now using a mATX motherboard, we can go with an easier to work with mATX case (Apevia X-QPACK3-PK) and yes it will come in pink.

Now comes the hard part, there is $250 left for RAM and a GPU. You can debate over speeds and size till the cows come home, but:

The cheapest 16GB kits have been ~$100 and the cheapest 8GB kits have been ~$55, so there isn't much value difference between them.

For the GPUs there is a choice between: RX 460 vs 1050 at ~$100, 1050 Ti at ~$130 or the RX480 4GB at ~$200.

So here is my recommendation: Two Kingston 16GB 2400MHz DDR4 ECC for $96,64. 32GB of DDR4 for $100 is insane value and yes the Gigabyte boards do "Support for ECC Un-buffered DIMM 1Rx8/2Rx8 memory modules (operate in non-ECC mode)". And an RX480 4GB for ~$200: Asus, Sapphire or Gigabyte.

So it's an FSP Raider 750W. There's plenty of professional reviews, most of them which lean on the negative side. Here's one by HardOCP

The Seasonic S12ii 620W is a much better option in my opinion. I couldn't find a review of the unit directly, but the M12ii is the same PSU with the only difference being that the S is non modular, and the M is modular. By HardOCP again

http://www.amazon.de/dp/B003BIEOCI/?tag=pcp05-21

I would recommend another PSU, this is a good option https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003BIEOCI

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Also I suggest to include a second HDD 2TB and maybe you can get a 1070 ti instead.

If you'll be overclocking consider https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-D15-heatpipe-NF-A15-140mm/dp/B00L7UZMAK

Get this: https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-S12II-620-BRONZE-SS-620GB/dp/B003BIEOCI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1486843216&sr=8-2&keywords=s12ii
One of the best for a great Price!

https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-S12II-620-BRONZE-SS-620GB/dp/B003BIEOCI Found the one you were talking about, it is (just) under 50$ so no additional price has to be paid when it enters Serbia :D But will the 520W one do the job ?

Is this graphics card (XFX Radeon R9 390 DD Edition Graphics Card (8 GB, GDDR5)) going to overload my PSU (Seasonic S12-II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Wired Power Supply)?

Here's the whole build.

I agree with /u/OcuTux on this. Get this Seasonic: http://www.amazon.de/Seasonic-S12II-620-Stromversorgung-620-ATX22/dp/B003BIEOCI/ for only a few Euros more than the one you listed. Seasonic is literally top of the line for PSUs. You can pay more, but you won't get better quality barring the dd defective unit here and there, which is sadly a risk with anything. With a quality brand, you'll see fewer defects as well, assuming you deal with hundreds of them as someone such as me does.

Can't go wrong with Seasonic PSUs

https://www.amazon.de/Seasonic-S12II-620-Stromversorgung-620-ATX22/dp/B003BIEOCI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1491662452&sr=8-2&keywords=seasonic

You might want to check out this list - http://i.imgur.com/tgrbCnr.jpg

It sorts PSUs by quality where tier 1 is the best of the best and tier 5 is IED. As you can see the Seasonic is in tier 2a which is still extremely good.

For this build, what power supply should I get? I don't intend on upgrading. Is the one currently in there ok or are there better options like this one? I have Amazon Prime.

Alright, so power issues or not, that PSU is a POS. Infact, replace it post haste with something that's actually reliable. This would be a really good alternative.

Don't ever ever go cheap on PSUs. It's the one component that can wreck literally everything else in your box. That particular PSU is about as crappy as they come. Order a new one and turn your computer off until it arrives.

Haha, LC-Power is a horrible power supply brand. It's good you're going away from it. Throw that thing out right now.

What's your budget? This is a solid PSU if you can afford it.

http://www.amazon.de/Seasonic-S12II-620-Stromversorgung-620-ATX22/dp/B003BIEOCI/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1462218241&sr=1-2&keywords=Seasonic

seasonic 620w bronze. bought it like 4/5 years ago

http://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-S12II-620-BRONZE-SS-620GB/dp/B003BIEOCI?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

For 600w I'd say get this for $65

And you can get semi modular and fully modular for only like $25-30 more. Personally I think once you go fully modular you never go back...

Here you go! And $394 under budget!

To greatly maximize the bang for your buck, you can keep your FX 8320 for now and get a GTX 1060 6GB (twice as strong as your 950) for the meanwhile. I would suggest getting a Ryzen, but I feel that a graphics card upgrade is the most important for what you intend on doing. You can save up for a nice strong processor like the Ryzen 5 1600 (or perhaps an R5 2600 or R5 3600 in the future) later down the line.

Here's a video of an FX 8350 at and a GTX 1060 running PUBG; as you can see, it is running not just at high, but mostly Ultra settings at 1080p 60fps (with a few dips below 60fps.) The FX 8350 is barely any better than your current processor, so it serves as a good reference. There is a bottleneck, but nothing that will ruin your gameplay experience. The same should apply for Escape from Tarkov since you meet its requirements.

You can also get a $114 Silicon Power 480GB SSD to speed up load times, boot times, application opening times, transfer times, etc. Just clone the operating system on your hard drive to it.

You may want a new PSU, just in case your current 400W doesn't have the appropriate power cables. Like this one.


Also be aware that the GPU cycle is doing its thing again and that there is a good chance that Nvidia is releasing a new line of graphics cards this year. Just a rumor at the moment, but it is something worth considering.

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    GPU: GTX 1060 6GB $450
    
    SSD: Silicon Power 480GB SSD $114
    
    PSU: Seasonic S12II 620 Bronze $42
    
• • -
    Total: $606

How is this?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seasonic-S12-II-Bronze-Certified-Supply-x/dp/B003BIEOCI

I saw an EVGA SuperNova GQ 650W in PC World for £77 but PC World's refund policy is basically non-existent. I'd feel like shit if I got a new PSU but it was the GPU all along ( I HIGHLY doubt the GPU is at fault but its possible ) so this Seasonic one from Amazon gives me insurance.

I always found PCPartPicker's estimated wattage to be iffy (I've seen someone run very similar specs to your, with a slightly better power supply that had issues with the PC shutting off).
Also, you have to worry about a CONSTANT flow from the power supply. With these components (especially when they're overclocked), you're gonna have really be pushing the PSU, and it's probably gonna be shutting down the rig simply because it can't keep up a constant flow.
EDIT: For some reason I thought you were running a 6700k. Still, you'd really be pushing it.
This Seasonic one should have some nice headroom