Reddit reviews GIGABYTE B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (AMD Ryzen AM4/ATX/M.2 Thermal Guard with Onboard WIFI/HDMI/DVI/USB 3.1 Gen 2/DDR4/Motherboard)

Guess I'll condense what was said in the previous post.

Is this a good deal?

...Not really, considering the motherboard can be had for 245$ at Mikes, and the 3600x at 299$.

Is this worth getting?

Considering the TUF is arguably one of the best budget X570 boards, has Wi-Fi, and puts the combo at 25-30$ over a 3600 combo, I'd say yes if you're to use the stock cooler. If not, the difference between the chips is just not worth it.

Could I do with cheaper?

Yes! you can save ~100$ by going with the 3600 and something like an B450 Aorus Pro Wi-Fi or, if Wi-Fi isn't a concern, the B450 Tomahawk.

E: words, also changed Tomahawk link because it's OOS online at 149

Reviews seem mixed on Amazon. When is that not the case though... Some saying it didn't last long and had poor support.
3.8/5, 59 reviews

You don't need the cooler as the 2600x comes with a damn good one. Also, go with this Motherboard as it has integrated wifi. You should then get another case fan.

Thanks for the explanations, this is exactly the feedback I was looking for. I tend to think of things within a budget and then have a hard time talking myself down, so the CPU and cooler advice in particular makes a lot of sense. Given what some other users are saying here, would using the savings with this build and putting into an Intel CPU make sense?

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In regards to the motherboard, I wasn't really sure what impact a 470 vs. a 450 really made but it seems to be limited to features? I really chose the Taichi based on its good reviews and the fact that it has WiFi which is necessary for me. Looking over B450 boards with WiFi this seems to be good and saves a few more dollars. https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B450-AORUS-PRO-WIFI/dp/B07FW85VFT, any other recommendations?

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I'm not sure why I wouldn't go with just one 2 TB storage... Just because it seems like everyone says you need two, one to run your OS and the other purely for storage. To clarify that's what you're saying right, to substitute the 2TB for both my previously selected storage units?

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PSU - Thanks I needed to hear this, I figured better safe than sorry and overshot it.

Drop the wi-fi card, spend $20 to get the PRO Wi-Fi verison of that board. It will have a much better adapter. This board also offers a much better Audio chip. The ALC1220-VB versus the ALC892 which I believe is present on the B450 Elite.

Save yourself the future trouble, Intel Wireless chips are generally really good.

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Also, only buy VESA certified Displayport cables. Don't risk damaging your components with cheap cables with something that requires such a high bandwidth

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From the man himself

Same rig. I use a Gigabyte Aorus b450 Pro Wifi -- no complaints.

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B450-AORUS-PRO-WIFI/dp/B07FW85VFT/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=gigabyte+aorus+b450+pro+wifi&qid=1557176772&s=gateway&sr=8-2

I'm looking to get the B450 Gigabyte Auros motherboard.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FW85VFT/?coliid=I3B37A4NA5673F&colid=1O1PK1NEBDAY9&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

Do I need any other equipment to use its wifi and bluetooth? I didn't think so but then I saw this picture of something connecting to it's wifi ports

https://imgur.com/a/nwgUBew

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PCPartPicker Part List

|Type|Item|Price|
|:-|:-|:-|
|CPU|AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor|$198.99 @ Amazon Canada|
|Motherboard|MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard|$159.99 @ Newegg Canada|
|Memory|G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory|$95.99 @ Newegg Canada|
|Storage|Crucial MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive|$85.49 @ shopRBC|
|Storage|Seagate Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive|$82.32 @ Vuugo|
|Video Card|XFX Radeon RX 5700 8 GB Video Card|$485.58 @ Amazon Canada|
|Case|Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case|$114.99 @ Newegg Canada|
|Power Supply|Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply|$109.99 @ Amazon Canada|
|Monitor|Acer V277U 27.0" 2560x1440 75 Hz Monitor|$332.99 @ PC-Canada|
|Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts|||
|Total|$1666.33||
|Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-06 23:59 EDT-0400|||

You did say you wanted a lower price so I went with the 2600X, at 1440p your more GPU limited so the performance hit will be minimal. I went with a better looking case that has PSU shroud and rubber grommets. The PSU is Corsair and 550W but your saving yourself $20 since 550W is sufficient. I changed the monitor for one that has freesync and is 75hz for a more enjoyable gaming experience. Lastly, you could even go with the Aorus Pro with onboard wifi+bt and go with Team 3000MHz ram if you want fit the Ducky better into your budget.

Wrong Motherboard link. Here's the correct one. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FW85VFT/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

I'm planning on buying this MOBO:

Which, when I check the list of supported RAMs here, I see only up to 2666 / 2999 MHz are supported.

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This just means that if I buy a 3200MHz RAM, I'll have to change the speed manually in the BIOS, but it will work, right?


Thanks for answering!

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AMD B450 series.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F85YKLJ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FW85VFT/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

All the research I've done suggests these are fairly comparable boards.

I recently found a deal at micro center with the Gigabyte b450 AORUS pro wifi do you know if this board has better on board sound.

I don’t have a motherboard yet, but I’m planning on getting this:

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B450-AORUS-PRO-WIFI/dp/B07FW85VFT

And my graphics card is an rx 580 8gb

GIGABYTE B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (AMD Ryzen AM4/M.2 Thermal Guard with Onboard WIFI/HDMI/DVI/USB 3.1 Gen 2/DDR4/ATX/Motherboard)

B450 Aorus Pro WiFi
Price beat at Amazon 169.99 vs. 154.99 -10% of-difference = 153.49$


Gigabyte RX 590 rev 2.0
Price beat at PC-Canada 239.99 vs 230.99 -10% of difference = 230.09$


Ryzen 7 2700x
269.99$


Adata SU630 480SSD
64.99$


2x16gb 3200/16 Gskill
159.99$


Corsair CXM 650w PSU
79.99$

Fractal Design Focus G
Price beat at CanadaComputers 69.99 vs 59.99 -10% of difference = 58.49$

Total = 1149.24 taxes in free shipping.

Notes:

Went with a different Mobo that supports 2nd gen chips from Ryzen and has WiFi built in. The other Mobo I recommended would have required a WiFi card. The price is essentially the same if you consider a decent WiFi card will be 40-50$.

The RX590 comes with a free game.


I put the 2700x in the build as you mentioned you do some workstation style tasks. The 3600 will outperform it in games but not enough to say the 2700x isn’t a good chip to game on.
If you would rather the 3600, you’ll need someone to update the bios for you if you go to a physical MemEx location,
the 3600 is currently out of stock at MemEx last night when I checked.
The 2700x has been on and off sale prices lots lately so if you feel like saving 20$ you could wait a bit.

Storage wise if you feel that 480gb is not enough for you currently you could opt for a small SSD just for windows and throw a larger HDD in just for storage.
SSD + HDD price beat from here = 82.28$ instead of 64.99$ for the larger SSD.


the 650w cx650m PSU is way more then you’ll need with this current build but does offer headroom for hungrier CPU and GPU down the line. It’s the same price as the cx550m atm but the 550 has a nail in rebate of 20$ making it 59.99$ if you have the patience for MIR and want to get 20$ back down the road it will also be plenty good enough for this build.
Technically a 450w could power this rig but I like to keep a 100w headroom on PSU’s so I’d say 550w minimum.

For the case, I recommend the shit out of this FD Focus. 2 decent fans, nice design inside for airflow, filtered mesh front over intake fans and beginners can cable manage in it. It’s also 60$ right now which is killer imo.

Lastly, this is by no means the cheapest route, you could probably save a bit going through other retailers for certain parts MemEx doesn’t carry but I like simplicity.

GL, any questions just ask.

Thanks a bunch for the feedback! I initially had this B450 board, any thoughts on the differences between this and the MSI you picked?

Gigabyte B450 AORUS

But how many do I need

What should I get

This is the most complicated shit

MSI Performance Gaming AMD Ryzen 1st and 2nd Gen AM4 M.2 USB 3 DDR4 DVI HDMI Crossfire ATX Motherboard (B450 Gaming Plus) https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07F83RVTC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_vB-ADb2GY65VQ

GIGABYTE B450 AORUS PRO WiFi (AMD Ryzen AM4/M.2 Thermal Guard with Onboard WiFi/HDMI/DVI/USB 3.1 Gen 2/DDR4/ATX/Motherboard) https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07FW85VFT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_XA-ADbVHRN14B

Which is better between these 2 ATX ones

I need Bluetooth

Do they come with Bluetooth?

Msi make the tomohawk right? Ive heard nothing great about they're motherboards. Sour taste in my mouth. Looking at
GIGABYTE B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (AMD Ryzen AM4/M.2 Thermal Guard with Onboard WIFI/HDMI/DVI/USB 3.1 Gen 2/DDR4/ATX/Motherboard) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FW85VFT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_vWFMBbJ4E1XT7

There's still the X470 board on the list, I assume it's there because you overlooked it, not because you want two motherboards.

1. 2600X makes no sense. Really.. Maybe, maybe, if the price difference was smaller, like $20, tops, then the higher base clock might be kinda worth it, but not when it's at $60. The next logical step up from 2600 is Ryzen 7 2700, as that gains you 2 more cores. For the $225 the 2600X costs. sidegrading to 7 1700 could be considered instead, but it would mean trading single core performance for multicore and would make sense if you were focused on content creation/rendering/productivity more than on gaming (aka stuff that can benefit more from more cores/threads and not from higher base clock).
   
   
2. That mobo is just as overpriced as the previous one, this time you're paying for Rog Strix branding and RGB. But if you insist, I'm not gonna argue. But let me present you with Gigabyte Aorus B450, which offers the same features Strix has (including RGB), but also has an integrated wifi card (that could come in handy), better cooling on power section and will save you from having to deal with less-than-stellar Asus' bios, all for $14 less. I also dig the aesthetics way more (especially the funny little radiators covering m.2 ports and branding on the pcb), but that's a personal thing. It cuts 2 pcie x1 ports, but - unless you're running 5 different expansion cards (I can't even begin figuring out who would need so many and what would they be used to in a regular gaming pc) - it's a non-issue.
   
   The gpu choice is solid, can't really comment on chassis choice, as it's definitely not my aesthetics, but CM makes solid cases in terms of production quality, so if you dig the looks - it will be fine.
   
   Make sure to check in here before making the final purchase (unless you do that in like a week or two), a lot can change in hardware market in just a few weeks, and your choice, while it's optimal by now, might be totally invalid come next month.
   
   Btw, have you figured in what order you want to make your purchases? I would normally advice on getting the gpu first, as you won't be able to use any of the rest until the whole lot arrives, but, as the next gen nvidia gpus are to drop next week, it might be worth it to sit on this one. Only high end ($600+) gpus are slated for release on the 20th, but the mid range should soon follow (it's usually within two weeks to a month), maybe nvidia would want to one up AMD for the mid range card with something, and even if they won't, at least the current gen prices will go down a bit.
   

https://www.amazon.com/B450-AORUS-PRO-WIFI-Motherboard/dp/B07FW85VFT/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1537380004&sr=1-1&keywords=b450%2Bwifi&dpID=51nYps769UL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch&th=1

I have pretty much this same exact build, except a different mobo, I went with the 2070 and it's absolutely insane, can easily run anything I want at high settings at 2160x1440

No rgb ram is not necessary. And it was an accident to have the mATX board in the part list but link below has the ATX board. if u cant see it, url is
https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B450-AORUS-PRO-WIFI/dp/B07FW85VFT

Thnx! Why not https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_1207_1205_1505&item_id=123813

or

https://www.amazon.ca/GIGABYTE-B450-AORUS-PRO-Motherboard/dp/B07FW85VFT/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1541652181&sr=8-2&keywords=msi+tomahawk+b450

If sticking with B450?

There's two options. You can spend a little more on a wifi adapter that supports both wifi and bluetooth like this one: https://www.amazon.com/PCE-AC55BT-B1-Wireless-AC1200-Bluetooth-Adapter/dp/B0713RRZMB/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1542774149&sr=1-3&keywords=pcie%2Bbluetooth&th=1


However that's going to bring the cost up a little higher and you could be better off making your build look a little more aesthetically pleasing by going with a board that already has wifi and bluetooth built in: https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B450-AORUS-PRO-WIFI/dp/B07FW85VFT/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1542774433&sr=1-1&keywords=gigabyte+b450

GIGABYTE B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (AMD Ryzen AM4/M.2 Thermal Guard with Onboard WIFI/HDMI/DVI/USB 3.1 Gen 2/DDR4/ATX/Motherboard)

Supports AMD 1st & 2nd Generation Ryzen/ Ryzen with Radeon Vega Graphics processors
Dual Channel Non-ECC Unbuffered DDR4, 4 DIMMs
Intel Ethernet LAN + Dual band 802.11AC Wi-Fi
Dual PCIe Gen3 M.2 NVMe with dual thermal guards
Alc1220-vb enhanced audio with WIMA capacitors.Support for 11AC 160MHz wireless standard and up to 1.73 Gaps data rate
Rgb FUSION with digital LED & RGB LED headers
Smart Fan 5 with Fan STOP

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B450-AORUS-PRO-WIFI/dp/B07FW85VFT

Price: $125.99

I like the gigabyte aorus b450 pro wifi. I've used it a few times and its easy to work with and ran with no issues. Looks nice in a tempered glass case too. They were on sale for around $100 on prime day, a little more now. They go on sale pretty often though.

GIGABYTE B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (AMD Ryzen AM4/M.2 Thermal Guard with Onboard WIFI/HDMI/DVI/USB 3.1 Gen 2/DDR4/ATX/Motherboard) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FW85VFT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_i2KoDbEWQWWX1

Motherboard Ram

If you want a Gigabyte mobo you should switch to this one. It has better features and built in WiFi. It will cost just a shade less than your current board with the WiFi card add on.
https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B450-AORUS-PRO-WIFI/dp/B07FW85VFT

cheaper mobo with wifi: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FW85VFT/?tag=pcpapi-20

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r5 2600 should easily get more than 60fps. no need for r5 3600.

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B450-AORUS-PRO-WIFI/dp/B07FW85VFT/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1549019341&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=gigabyte+b450+aorus+motherboard&dpPl=1&dpID=51nYps769UL&ref=plSrch

If you want to save $60 for the same thing. Mobos dont matter as much as other parts.