Best center channel speakers according to redditors
We found 734 Reddit comments discussing the best center channel speakers. We ranked the 130 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
We found 734 Reddit comments discussing the best center channel speakers. We ranked the 130 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
Instead of going 5.1 right away, you could buy a great 2.1 or 3.0 depending on the center speaker availability and sales, and save up for the subwoofer or center and surrounds to buy later.
Receiver:
Denon AVR-S530BT $150 refurbished 5.2 AV receiver with HDCP 2.2 for 4K HDMI
Popular and highly recommended Denon AVR1400 $300, 7.2/5.2.2 with Audyssey MultEQ XT.
Speakers:
AverageJoe's list and r/HTBuyingGuides Speakers.
Internet Direct: HTD, Ascend, Chane...
On sale:
3x Wavecrest Audio HVL-1, order on sale here $160 pair + shipping. A third for $80 horizontally as a center speaker.
Polk Audio Signature S20 $250 or Polk Audio Signature S15 $180 with Polk Audio Signature S30 center.
Budget entry level speakers, Sony SSCS5 $120 and Sony SSCS8 $120
Surrounds: Aperion Audio Intimus 4b $200, Fluance $150 or $230, JBL Arena 120 $140 Thin Profile, Polk Audio OWM3 $100, Polk Audio Blackstone TL2 $200.
Speaker wire and wire strippers.
Subwoofer:
HSU 10" VTF-1 MK3 $425 shipped. Or go larger with the 12" Rythmik LV12F front ported for $550 shipped when it becomes available next month (currently shown is the older rear ported version).
5.1 Speaker Packages:
JBL Studio 270 5.1 Home Theater Speaker System Package $850
Boston Acoustics 5.1.2 package $800.
Guides:
r/HTBuyingGuides, Frequently Asked Questions, How to Set Up a Basic Home Theater System - Lifewire, How to Set Up Your Home Theater Receiver, Speaker Placement for Home Theater, Crutchfield Guides
Probably something like this then:
That leaves about $400 for speakers:
If you want to downgrade the sub or receiver you can, the ones I picked are pretty much the crossing point between acceptable and commendable.
For cables/wires:
Wires: 100ft of 14awg oxygen-free.
Subwoofer cable: 25ft (get longer or shorter based on required distance).
Connectors: Open-screw banana plugs, these just make wiring simpler. Probably won't fit on the wall-mounted sides, but I'd get 2 orders, so all the fronts have connection as well as all 5 outputs from the receiver (so 8 pair), doing all the wiring normally is a pain in the ass. They work like so.
Placement os speakers:
While not needed, a Harmony remote makes things so much easier, I have the 650.
Denon E200 $170
2 Sets of Pioneer BS22 ON SALE NOW $99.99 per set ~ $200 total
1 Pioneer C22 center speaker ON SALE NOW $66.99
Dayton Sub-1000 $135.45
Puts you at $572 before Tax/Shipping and Cables
With a $600 budget you should start with a 2.0 system then, if you want, add to it as the budget replenishes to flesh it out to a full 5.1 system. With that budget I'd start with this:
Receiver $240: http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/marnr1403/marantz-nr1403-slimline-5.1-av-receiver/1.html
L/R speakers $172: http://smile.amazon.com/Infinity-Primus-Two-way-Bookshelf-Satellite/dp/B0045NCB32/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1425873281&sr=8-3&keywords=infinity+primus
This will immediately be better than any soundbar (well, other than a $1500 Martin Logan soundbar) and is high quality and flexible. When possible get this subwoofer $270: http://smile.amazon.com/NXG-Technology-NX-BAS-500-500-watt-Subwoofer/dp/B008FSTU4G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1425873379&sr=8-1&keywords=nxg+bas500
Center channel $145: http://smile.amazon.com/Infinity-Primus-Two-way-Speaker-Center-Channel/dp/B0046A8R5A/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1425873281&sr=8-10&keywords=infinity+primus
And finally surrounds $120: http://smile.amazon.com/Infinity-Primus-Two-way-Bookshelf-Satellite/dp/B0044D3R7M/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1425873281&sr=8-5&keywords=infinity+primus
Seriously check out /r/hometheater
But be warned, that place can be dangerous.
Here is my current set up:
AVR : Sony 7.2
Center : Klipsch RP-250C
Fronts : Klipsch R-14M
Rears : Klipsch R-14S
Sub : Bic America 12
I deff spent less than $1000 and I love my set up. One thing that saved me a lot of money was buying open box on Ebay from an authorized seller. The other nice thing about piecing it together like this is that you can very easily upgrade one set of speakers over time.
Not a soundbar but here you go:
Used Polk S15 for $140.
Used Polk S30 center channel for $110.
Dayton SUB1000 for $120.
Pioneer VSX-530 receiver for $130.
That's $500 flat.
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Here are the Amazon links with no fuckery
https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Black/dp/B07B4Q5587
https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Center-Speaker-Black/dp/B07B4VCT99/
https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Floorstanding-Speaker-Black/dp/B07B4V37VV
https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-SUB3010-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B07B4WM5H1
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Also, they are not on sale... they are on 'sale'. Normal discount.
Mods - Check the user's post history... all links to affiliate sites.
SVS PB2000 sub -$800
Marantz SR5009 $420
Infinity primus center $200
Infinity primus towers $300 for the pair
Infinity primus bookshelfs $190 for a pair add another pair for 7.1
add another big subwoofer later for more oompf. the primus series represents pretty good value and they will play quite impactfully
then figure in another grand for a projector and screen
Well you're going to want to get a Klipsch center since you've got Klipsch towers. No way around that.
The R25C is the matching center to those towers but honestly I think it's small and undersized. The R52C would be a better choice.
Now since the R52C is $200+ you're not left much room for what I'd consider "good" subwoofer range. But if you can squeeze just over your budget the BIC PL 200 II for $300 (does go on sale at times) would be the absolute minimum I'd recommend.
Note the BIC isn't going to get you all the way down to 20hz it peaks at 50hz (110db range) and falls flat on it's face after that, 84dB at 25hz, so basically 8x loss in output (every 10dB is double).
Not to dissuade you but just trying to level set expectations is all. Usually $500 is where you want to be in just the subwoofer but not everyone can spend that kind of money so there has to be compromises and total output and performance in subwoofers is where that compromise happens.
A Denon receiver is definitely the way to go. Plenty of options, good price.
Alright, let's discuss your setup. $500 for each component is wierd. Don't look at it that way. $2k total is better. Some things are more expensive than others.
Let's dive in.
I'm assuming that this will be a movie/tv setup. For that, you want something with crisp, clear, and distinct highs. This makes dialogue extremely easy to hear.
I'm going to go a bit over your budget for my first recommendation.
KEF Q550 tower speakers. These will be your main speakers. Absolutely stunning clarity from KEF. These things really are fantastic.
KEF Q560c center speaker. Vocals will sound like real people with this. Absolutely outstanding. The clarity, resolution, and detail you will get is fantastic.
HSU VTF-1 subwoofer. This is an awesome home theater sub. Hits low, but does it with clarity and speed.
Alright, this goes a bit over budget (the subwoofer was on sale until last week and you woulda been closer. Sorry). Let's talk about it. Those towers are designed a tad different than a lot of towers. They are actually designed to not hit super low. This will allow them to focus on highs and mids. In return, you get extremely clear vocals, tight clean midbass, and they can get loud with little distortion. The center channel is the same. The subwoofer is from a brand you've probably never heard of, but they make fantastic subwoofers. There are tons of reviews out there if you want to read up on it. Steve Guttenberg absolutely loves that sub.
So, let's do one that is under budget.
Def Tech towers and a center. Def Tech specifically makes home theater stuff. I'm not into home theater, so I don't love their stuff, but it definitely is good. I've heard it and it is about what I'd expect for a home theater. They get loud, throw bass, have good clarity, look nice, etc.
With those, you'll actually have a bit more room in your budget for a subwoofer. The next step up in the HSU line would be a good match. It gets down to an incredibly 16hz, but again doing it with accuracy.
This setup is basically a home theater setup. The Kefs are more of a "hi-fi" setup that is being used as a home theater setup.
One more, just for good measure.
Elac Uni-fi UF5 towers. They're kinda in-between the kefs and the def techs. They hit lower, but they won't be as accurate and tight as the kefs.
The matching center there. This will give you very good vocals as well.
And then whatever sub you can fit into your budget.
Oh wait, I almost forgot.
You could do the classic Klipsch home theater. This is an extremely popular option, because Klipsch are designed for this. The large woofers make tons of bass, the horn loaded tweeter will really make the dialog pop, and the wide and flat center will give you a great center image right in the middle of the screen.
Once again, whatever sub fits into your budget here is what you could get.
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Let's chat. If you look at my flair, you probably know what I'm going to say. I would pick either the Kef or the Klipsch. And honestly, even though I like Kef more for music, Klipsch makes absolutely fantastic stuff for home theater. If you aren't going to use this for music at all, I would get the Klipsch.
TL;DR: Klipsch stuff with a HSU subwoofer.
That subwoofer is trash to be honest. Roll your own kit instead.
Dayton Audio SUB-1200 - $150.
https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-1200-12-Inch-Subwoofer/dp/B00669L3HS
ELAC Debut 2.0 C5.2 Center Speaker - $200
https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-C5-2-Center-Speaker/dp/B07B4Q5LW2
(Fronts) Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2 Bookshelf Speakers - $250
https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-B5-2-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B07B4Q5588
(Rears) Micca MB42X Bookshelf Speakers - $90
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2
If you want to drop a bit more money then go for a better subwoofer.
TELEVISIONS
If you're into gaming the #1 thing to look for in a TV is low input lag
Here is a list of low lag TVs Looks like one of Sonys might be your best bet
AUDIO
Get a receiver.
SPEAKERS
Onkyo TX-NR676 - $339.00.
Polk T30 center channel - $89.99
Polk PSW10 10" subwoofer - $99.99
Polk T50 towers for the front speakers - $89.99 x2 = $179.98
Polk T15 Bookshelf speakers for the rear surrounds - $59.00 x2 = $118.00
Total: $824.98. Throw in ~$70 for sales tax and another $30-40 for audio cable and $5 for an HDMI cord. You can save $60 by switching the front towers for T15s.
The Onkyo can be expanded to 5.1.2 for Atmos, and supports DTS:X as well. 4K passthrough and it supports every audio format up through Atmos. It's a fantastic AVR, especially at that price.
EDIT: fixed link for T50 towers.
If you're going for a 3.0 you'll need an AVR. That will eat half of the budget straight away and will narrow down the speaker choices. Lets take a look at an setup for you.
AVR - You need this to power the speakers.
Speakers - Since you're going for a 3.0 (no sub) you'll want some speakers that go pretty low especially if you're using this in an HT roll.
You will also need some speaker wire and should consider some stands for the mains to sit on. However, you can get those at a later date.
I recently purchased a town house, after renting a room for several years. Didn't have any furniture other than the bedroom essentials, so I had a pretty blank slate to work with.
I realize the layout isn't ideal, given the lighting and open floor layout (opens up to the dining room and kitchen), but I was more concerned with having a good hangout environment than having the prefect viewing experience. The only other option was an above ground basement, which would have had the same lighting issue, though better acoustics.
The lighting isn't as bad as it appears in the picture, imo. I've never really had a problem with it, though I do spend most of my time relaxing in the evenings when there is no direct sunlight coming from those windows. Even then, the Samsung seems to handle it well.
EDIT:
Additional pictures of the cable management.
https://i.imgur.com/iPxbpNz.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6pkdjpH.jpg
For the wall I used some 1/4" shaped wiremold from Home Depot. Sanded and spray painted it to match the existing 1/4" Round. For the rest of the power cables and such, I modified the middle drawer of an Ikea cabinet to hide them away and give me easy access. I'm still not quite sure what to do about the remaining outlet wires, but other than that there aren't any other visible cables.
EDIT 2:
Since I've been asked about pretty much every piece short of the coffee table, I figured I would update this post to consolidate that info. Most of these items I bought used or on sale.
TV - Samsung KS8500 65"
Reciever - Denon AVR-S720W
Speakers - ELAC UB5/UC5/UB5, Surrounds - B4
Subwoofer - Bic Acoustech PL-200 12"
Entertainment Center - Modified BESTÅ from Ikea
Speaker Stands - Sanus SF30 Steel Series
Couch - Corey Sectional from Havertys
Art - Patent Collections from Displate
Rug - [Safavieh Glacier from Overstock](https://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Safavieh-Glacier-Contemporary-Abstract-Blue-Multi-
Area-Rug-6-7-x-9-67-x-9/14248766/product.html)
Bookshelves - Parthenia Etagere Bookcase from Wayfair
Coffee Table - Baxton Studio Wood/Metal End Table
LR: Elac Debut 2.0 6.2 bookshelfs
C: Elac Debut 2.0 6.2 center
Sub: Bic America F12 or Dayton Audio Sub-1200
AVR: Something here. Whatever fits your budget and has the features you need. Make sure that if you're going to be streaming music to get one that is at least wifi compatible or networking (ethernet jack). I personally can recommend the Yamaha RX-V483. If that Yamaha is too expensive then go with a Denon with comparable features.
Stands: (If you don't already have a surface to put your LR on) Monoprice monoliths (24inch or 28inch, depending on ear height at listening/watching position) or Monoprice glass
If the price comes out to be too much then go with the Dayton sub and a cheaper AVR.
You'll also need some speaker wire, a wire cutter, and possibly some silicone hemispheres
That is a 3.1 to start. I think you'll be very happy and impressed with it. Given some time and some saving you'll be ready to upgrade to some surrounds. Delayed gratification is always worth it in this game :)
Ok, thats a big room but the lower volume will help. For 250$ I would go with something like....
https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-DV62si-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00006JPDI
Plus
https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-DV-62CLRS-Channel-Speaker/dp/B00009WBYL/ref=pd_sim_23_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00009WBYL&pd_rd_r=9TC6M390JE1PY38E3K10&pd_rd_w=vruoI&pd_rd_wg=VKzIs&psc=1&refRID=9TC6M390JE1PY38E3K10
Or
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008NCD2LG
Plus
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C22-Designed-Channel-Speaker/dp/B008NCD2EI/ref=pd_bxgy_23_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B008NCD2EI&pd_rd_r=YC00Y4XCPT9XBKZE5CSH&pd_rd_w=SQGBN&pd_rd_wg=jV6RF&psc=1&refRID=YC00Y4XCPT9XBKZE5CSH
Or
3 of these
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-C-Channel-Speaker-Tweeter/dp/B00HHFBEK6/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1501010503&sr=1-1&keywords=mb42x-c
Speakers:
(2) BIC Acoustech Platinum Series PL-89 tower speaker
(1) BIC Acoustech PL-28II Center Speaker
Subwoofer is still on it's way in the mail but it's a BIC PL-200 Acoustech Platinum Series Subwoofer
Turntable:
Technics SL 1210 mk5
Shure m97xE Audiophile Cartridge
Receiver:
Pioneer Elite 7.1 Receiver (Sorry can't find link)
For those wondering the record is Flume - Flume (debut)
My obligatory post for a cheap home theater. I like the BIC sub. I usually recommend Denon over Yamaha for features and ease of setup. The Sony floorstanders are hit or miss depending on who you talk too. On a budget I would likely go with these aff-linked Pioneer SPFS51's and some of the matching BS21's for the rear and they have a matching center should you want everything to match. You can save some cash and use whatever you have for the rears since they rarely have to match.
In-wall and in-ceiling are compromises in terms of audio quality. For the best sound quality for your money, I'd recommend discrete speakers out in the open. If you go this route, here is one possible build:
Total: $1053 for a great value in sound quality, doing justice to both movies and music. The Pioneer speakers go on sale pretty often (the bookshelf speakers go for less than $100 a pair on sale and the center sometimes dips to $60) so you can definitely get it under $1000 if you're patient.
Not sure about "plug and play", but I'll try.
Denon S530BT - $150
Dayton 1200 Subwoofer - $150
Pioneer AJ Towers FS52 - $97/each
Pioneer AJ Center $99
Dayton B52AIR - $46 - Surrounds
or
Jamo 3.1 $499
The Denon Receiver and the Dayton Surrounds.
Just my two cents, you could do the Best Buy $300 on speakers and like you said get whatever 5.1+ receiver elsewhere. Best Buy will price match Amazon if it's "shipped and sold" by Amazon. So for example you could get the Pioneer towers and center channel for around $300:
Pioneer SP-FS52 Andrew Jones Tower each $110 Amazon (x2 for $220) / $125 Best Buy (x2 for $250)
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-FS52-Designed-standing-Loudspeaker/dp/B008NCD2S4/
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pioneer-5-1-4-floor-speaker-each-black/5086937.p?skuId=5086937
Pioneer SP-C22 Andrew Jones Center channel $85 Amazon / $95 Best Buy
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C22-Designed-Channel-Speaker/dp/B008NCD2EI/
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pioneer-dual-4-center-channel-speaker-black/5086891.p?skuId=5086891
Total if you Amazon price match = $305 before tax
EDIT: just be sure to factor in cables/speaker wire to total budget, and make sure everything will fit and has a proper place to be setup. and don't overlook a universal remote if that's an option/need. :)
EDIT 2: OK so this doesn't satisfy the need for surround. So you could throw in cheap surrounds for now as well. Top 100 Amazon satellite speakers, others on here may have cheap suggestions?:
https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Electronics-Satellite-Speakers/zgbs/electronics/3236454011#1
EDIT 3: And here's the matching bookshelf speakers if you wanted to match them up for the surrounds, swap these in front as a cheaper alternative to the towers, or both... for pair $110 Amazon / $125 Best Buy:
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG/
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pioneer-4-bookshelf-speakers-pair-black/5086955.p?skuId=5086955
All in one systems are just a step above HTiB systems in regards to quality. The only advantage is that you don't have to get an entirely new system if something fails. What do you have currently? It's possible that there's enough to use to fill in while you save up for more components.
With a $700 budget, here's what I'd recommend:
Receiver ($189.99): Denon s710 Receiver
Subwoofer ($138.00) Dayton 1200 12" subwoofer
Speakers option 1 ($89.99 + $96.99) Pioneer Andrew Jones Bookshelf pair + Pioneer Andrew Jones Center
Speakers option 2 ($229.99 + $179.99) [ELAC B5 Bookshelf pair](http://www.amazon.com/Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSER6O/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1453949947&sr=8-7&keywords=B014GSEPY8%7CB014GSEQ06%7CB014GSEQ2O%7CB014GSEQCY%7CB 014GSEQWE%7CB014GSER6O%7CB014GSEUJ8%7CB014GSEVFQ) + ELAC Center Channel
Option 1 total: $514.97 without shipping, taxes, or accessories. The Pioneer speakers are among the best budget speakers around right now, especially on sale. Some people think they sound a little veiled, so if super crisp highs are your thing, I'd consider alternatives.
Option 2 total: $737.97 without shipping, taxes, or accessories. Yes, a little over budget assuming $700 is your limit. However, it's worth it for the increased sound quality. The ELAC Debut series are one of the hottest speaker lines out there right now, and most reviewers agree that they're worth every penny. There are also alternatives in this ballpark by EMP Tek, Chane, Infinity, etc.
Why no rears? You sacrifice too much in the front speakers by trying to get the whole system at once in the budget. As a matter of fact, if you wanted to you could skip the center channel as well and just buy a 2.1 to start. Remember though that any system you buy needs to be the same series across the front three. You can either purchase identical speakers for the rears later, or look at dipole/bipole speakers, or purchase some cheap speakers off Craigslist for rears. Now, all of this is assuming that you don't have any audio gear. If you already have some older bookshelf speakers, you can use those for surrounds, etc.
$70 & prime eligible. and if you want the matching speakers they arent too expensive either.
https://smile.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C22-Designed-Channel-Speaker/dp/B008NCD2EI?
the andrew jones pioneers are great for the money. ive got a couple sets around the house and have given some away as gifts too.
Yamaha RX-V583 was $500 bucks
Fluance Signature Hi-Fi Towers $700
Fluance Signature Hi-Fi surrounds $250
Fluance Signature Hi-Fi center $150
BIC America 475w sub $160 when I bought it.
I originally had a Vizio 55" 1080p TV back in the day that I used with this that was around a thousand. I upgraded to a Sony 65" 4k, that I have since moved to a different room, and am currently using a Sony X900E 65".
Before I went with the higher end Fluance stuff, I went with their $250 surround in a box, and it was still light years ahead of going to the theaters. It was also drastically cheaper. I helped set up a buddy, and for the sound without the TV, he went with the $250 speakers, same sub for $200, and an entry level Yamaha 5.1 that was on sale for $300 and absolutely loves it. $750 for something that will blow away those little HTIB away.
Is there room on the sides of the TV for speakers? Ideally they would be a couple feet to either side of the TV.
You probably just want to go with a 3.1 system, because the placement of the surrounds will be so wonky with a corner L-shaped couch and a corner TV that I don't think it would be worth it. You could do in-ceiling speakers, and do a 3.1.2 system though. https://www.dolby.com/us/en/guide/speaker-setup-guides/3.1.2-overhead-speakers-setup-guide.html
For $1,000 3.1.2 system I would get this:
Receiver - $300 (doesn't have eARC, but you probably don't need it)
Front L/R speakers - $200
Front center - $170
in-ceiling speakers - $80
Subwoofer - $250
If cutting holes into your ceiling to install speakers and run wiring is a daunting task, then just do a 3.1 system and you can spend more on the subwoofer. If you can push your budget this very high quality SVS PB-1000 subwoofer goes on sale on the outlet site for $400 several times a year, I imagine it will during labor day subwoofer option 2 - $400. It will be infinitely better than the $250 one linked above.
Fluance Signature
Matching Center
or get Fluance Elite and Get 5 speakers :
Fluance Elite 5.0 set
Elac Debut 6.2
Option 1
Front L/R: Chane A5RX-C $399.99 Each
Center: Chane A2.4 - $269
Surrounds: Micca MB42 - $62
Option 2
Front L/R: HTD Level Three Towers $799/pair
Center: HTD Level Three Center - $209
Surrounds: Micca MB42 - $62
Option 3
Front L/R: Elac Unifi Tower $499/each
Center: Elac Unifi Center - $349
Surrounds: Micca MB42 - $62
I would agree with LocarionStorm; a set of quality bookshelf speakers will probably get you further with your budget. While I personally love the X1400H, you may not need a 7-channel receiver if you're only considering a 3.1 setup. If you don't plan to upgrade to 7.1 later, I think something like Denon's S540BT may serve your current budget better.
The Elacs are great speakers, but I would also consider Polk's Signature Series as a solid option. (If at all possible, I recommend listening to whatever you plan to buy first. Don't trust the Polk haters!)
My picks would be as follows:
• Receiver: Denon S540BT - $170 (accessories4less)
• Fronts: Polk S15 - $180
• Center: Polk S30 - $200
• Sub: Polk HTS 10 - $350
Total will run you around $900, and you'll have some budget left for quality speaker stands and/or other accessories.
Have you looked into this?
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Signature-S35-American/dp/B01LW8H3NX
Hey /u/ZeosPantera,
I first wanted to say you are the fucking man. This subreddit has been so incredibly helpful in figuring out my audio system. Additionally, I was wondering if you could provide your expertise for me.
My fraternity is currently getting our house back in a few weeks, and we have money to spend on home improvement (in this case, an audio system for the large common room). I'm looking for a system that can double as both a home theater sound system as well as speakers for a large, loud party. I assembled a list of components and was hoping you can recommend any changes. This is the list so far:
Receiver - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B7X2OV2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Center - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015A8Y3E/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Front speakers (tower) - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002ISZEV2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Rear speakers - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CRMKJTQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1WPEQCN6WJKZG
Subwoofer - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015A8Y5M/ref=ox_sc_act_title_8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
These are the ones you listed as being loud enough to play music on as well. Will these products fit the bill for my needs (home theater, large frat party)? Also, these extras to set up the system:
Banana plugs - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0090CVJZ4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
RCA cable - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003FVX9FO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1DCPNQKKEISZB
Copper wire - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00APEG9MO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Is there anything I'm missing in order to set up the system? Thank you so much!!
$1000 isn't much to work with, but you can still get a decent setup.
Receiver: Denon 530
Towers: Bic PL-89
Matching center
Sub
Total comes to $1069, but I don't think you will have any complaints about this setup.
If you really want to go cheap, get some Polk Monitor 70s which I routinely see on sale for $170-180, a matching center from Crutchfield's scratch and dent for about $70 with the same sub and receiver.
Whatever you do, have some patience and just wait until Black Friday. Last year Best Buy had Polk and Klipsch stuff on sale for 50% off. You might be able to snag some Polk Signature S55s or Klipsch Reference series for cheap.
I would change the speakers to one of the pioneer/jones variations.
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS21-LR-80-Watts-2-Way-Speakers/dp/B004MEWZE4/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1382326142&sr=8-9&keywords=pioneer+speakers
These are down to $59 now. (pair) Go with two pair. Add matching center
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C21-Watt-2-Way-Speaker/dp/B004MF4S0M/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_y
That's a heck of a 5.0 package for about $200.
no need to match the brand of the sub to speakers. The key considerations here are...
1)The upper frequency range of the sub overlaps the deep frequency capabilities of the speakers to some degree.
2)The subwoofer is not grossly mismatched in terms of output capabilities. In other words, don't match a Triax subwoofer to tiny cube speakers..:)
You can pick up a decent AVR for about $170:
https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs540bt/denon-avr-s540bt-5.2-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html
Speaker Wire should be less than $10:
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-16-Gauge-Speaker-Wire-Feet/dp/B006LW0WDQ/
That leaves about $800 for your LRC and subwoofer.
My favorites in this price range are the Pioneer Andrew Jones series and the Sony SSCS series:
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C22-Designed-Channel-Speaker/dp/B008NCD2EI/
https://www.amazon.com/Sony-SSCS8-3-Driver-Channel-Speaker/dp/B00O8YLNRS
Now for either one, there's only a single choice for your center channel.
However, for the left and right channels, you can either go with floor stand speakers or bookshelf speakers.
Floorstanding speakers would be the ideal choice, but they are larger. If you are in an apartment where space is tight, you might need to get bookshelf speakers for left and right channels.
Which you choose will end up determining what budget range you are in for the subwoofer. So which will it be for you?
My advise is that if you are unsure right, then go with the bookshelf speakers. Because that gives you the option to change your mind in the future. If you get the bookshelf speakers right now and end up being disappointed with their performance as front channels, then you can repurpose them as the surround channels down the road and buy the floor standing speakers for the front left and right.
With your budget, if you don't want to go modular and add the pieces as you go along and get a 5.1 right away, think this seems like a decent package that you'll be very happy with for a good couple of years:
These Pionneer towers x2
And the surrounds
And center that go with the set
This sub seems very well liked around here
The amp you mentionned (I have had RX-V657 for years, very good) is also very good an will be plenty
rest on cables and stuff if you need, go to http://www.monoprice.com
All that should come in around your budget!
Cheers and have fun!
What would you think of this as a good starting point:
Total: $486
Anything you'd change?
Well I would suggest the Denon AVR-S530BT for a receiver at $140 and then probably stick to a 2.1, 3.0 or 3.1 and build it up slowly. The ELAC b6.2 are on a great sale for $150 right now and the center for $170, they get recommended a lot and are a great value with the sale. That doesn't leave much for a sub though. Typically the cheapest sub that gets recommended are the daytons, the 10 inch one runs about $100. Whatever speakers you look at make sure they are front ported so you can wall mount them
If you're ready for a receiver upgrade, there's nothing better at $150 than an avr-x1400h. If you're not ready he can pick up a Denon s540bt for $150 or a Denon s730h for $220. I'd pick the 540 for an under $1,000 setup.
Bic America F12 Subwoofer (if wife allows)
Now you have quite a few choices for LCR. I'd start with Elac Debut 2 B6.2 and Matching Center. For ~$570.
Leave the rest for cables and upgrading surrounds for later. I'm currently pretty happy with my Polk owm3 for $100 but I have rear space restrictions.
You can also go the Fluance Route Fluance L& R, Matching center, and Bipole Surrounds for ~$500
I looked it up and you have dome tweeters so don't get anything with a horns such as Klipsch. However they are from a home theater in a box which generally speaking aren't great. My suggestion is you should get the center now but plan on buying the matching left and right as soon as you can. The issues you could run into with running miss matched from stage (LCR) is timber imbalance where sounds don't have the same volume or pitch so sounds traveling across your front stage could sound like aaaaaaAAAAAAAaaaaaaa. My suggestion is listen to some bookshelf speakers and find ones you like then buy the center that matches them. Here are some options I found on Amazon but going to local shops to listen would be best:
I'd look up what the matching bookshelf speakers cost and factor that in as well.
I second the Fluance signature series which cost $350 or you could step one series down to the reference series for $270 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FRIKN6G/ and https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JAO01XM/
I would instead get this receiver, and these speakers, and this center channel. This would be $20 cheaper than the Denon DM40SBK D-M40 you linked, it would sound better, and it has better "upgradeability."
Heads up: all the Andrew Jones speakers are on sale for the next 8 hours or so for Amazon's deal of the day.
I own the older model of the bookshelf speakers and they're fantastic for the price. I'll probably fill out my home theater with these.
Floor standing loud speaker SP-FS52 - $89.99 each
Center Speaker SP-C22 - $69.99
SW-8MK2 Subwoofer - $99
Pioneer's Andrew Jones speakers are great for the price and hit way above their weight class. Check them out here...
Towers
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Andrew-Designed-Floorstanding-Loudspeaker/dp/B0798YNCQ1/
Bookshelves
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG/
Center
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C22-Designed-Channel-Speaker/dp/B008NCD2EI/
Sounds like you might be very underwhelmed with the setup only 250 can get you. Especially with the setup you already have. But if these can make it up to you maybe a 2.0 system would be a good start and work from there later on.
Scroll through these bookshelf speaker for some good ideas. The kef q150, jbl stage, wharfdale diamond, polk signature 15, Elac debut b5.2. All good starts to a system.
https://www.crutchfield.com/g_37900/Bookshelf-Speakers.html?tp=186&pg=3&o=d#&price=60-300
Or
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Andrew-Designed-Floorstanding-Loudspeaker/dp/B0798YNCQ1/ref=zg_mw_3236453011_14?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=61BTSNTW87Z8RRTK3QP4
Or maybe this 3.0 starting point and get 2 Floorstanding speakers and a sub later and move the bookshelf ones to the rear for a full 5.1.
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C22-Designed-Channel-Speaker/dp/B008NCD2EI/ref=pd_aw_sim_23_1/141-7821185-1647945?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B008NCD2EI&pd_rd_r=80a2854b-12b5-40ff-8f99-58c7f4b43b2e&pd_rd_w=UUvP7&pd_rd_wg=lXjps&pf_rd_p=dfdb1da3-5e85-40b8-aca6-1f16b6aad03b&pf_rd_r=V91T78W06QSB4VJSJKAC&psc=1&refRID=V91T78W06QSB4VJSJKAC
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG/ref=pd_aw_sim_23_2/141-7821185-1647945?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B008NCD2LG&pd_rd_r=80a2854b-12b5-40ff-8f99-58c7f4b43b2e&pd_rd_w=UUvP7&pd_rd_wg=lXjps&pf_rd_p=dfdb1da3-5e85-40b8-aca6-1f16b6aad03b&pf_rd_r=V91T78W06QSB4VJSJKAC&psc=1&refRID=V91T78W06QSB4VJSJKAC
r/hometheater and good luck. $500 is not much for surround sound.
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This is about as good as good as it gets.
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-PK52FS-5-0-Theater-Speaker/dp/B00IRH0QMA
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG/
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C22-Designed-Channel-Speaker/dp/B008NCD2EI/
https://www.fluance.com/signature-series-hi-fi-5-0-home-theater-speaker-system-with-bookshelf-speakers-black
https://www.fluance.com/sx-series-high-definition-surround-sound-home-theater-speaker-system-black-sx50bc
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I recommend upgrading your subwoofer too.
https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-sub-1200-12-120-watt-powered-subwoofer--300-629
No question, return it.
$624 for a decent entry level 3.1 system that will make the Bose system sound like laptop speakers.
They are just ok but adequate for most people...
You'll find that buying what i have listed below would sound much better but obviously wouldn't have the same form factor...
Fronts (2x): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008NCD2S4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Rears (Sold as pair): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008NCD2LG/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Center: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008NCD2EI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Sub: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0063NU3AA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A385A0XNQBW8HY
Total around $600. If you wanted, you could invest a bit more into the front L/R channel speakers (or the subwoofer)
If you are looking for minimal trouble and just want a home theatre as easy as possible, you obviously would be giving up sound quality for something easier to work with. so the bose would work. Just go off your instinct :D Like the other mentions if you are happy with how the bose system sounds, then it would be a great deal.
I ended up tightening my budget quite a bit on this new home theater, so some of my choices aren't as nice as what I had before, but I'm very happy with what I got in the end. I want to thank everyone who gave me advice in my last post here. It was all very helpful!
I went with a 65" Samsung 120Hz smart TV. I decided against getting the 240Hz because I couldn't see a difference between the two when looking at it, and the 3D makes my wife sick in any case. That saved me almost $500.
For the receiver, I took everyone's advice and opted away from the all-in-one set I'd been looking at. Instead, I got a great price on a Pioneer VSX-824 that I've been very happy with.
I know the Denon reciever is what everyone recommended, and it's what I bought at first, but strangely enough my PS3 didn't work with it. It worked just fine connected to the TV directly, and other devices worked with that HDMI cable and port, but the PS3 just told me to go fuck myself. A quick google search told me that it's a flaw in the way the HDMI handshake works with Denon receivers, so back it went.
I went with Pioneer speakers as well, hooking up a
pair of tower speakers for front left and right, a pair of matching bookshelf speakers for the rear, and the matching center speaker.
The subwoofer will have to wait, for now, but the plan is to purchase the matching subwoofer when we're ready.
Instead of the Harmony Ultimate, which didn't seem to get any good remarks, I opted for the much cheaper Harmony 650, which has made my wife very happy. No more frayed tempers about what button does what on which remote. I'm even buying my parents one for Christmas.
I'm hugely pleased with the upgrade over my previous setup, even if it's not everything it could have been. What do you all think?
https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-25C-Center-Channel-Speaker/dp/B00LMFYRIS/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=klipsch+center&qid=1557863030&s=electronics&sr=1-3
https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-41M-Powerful-Detailed-Bookshelf/dp/B07FKH3VPV/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=klipsch+r14&qid=1557863056&s=electronics&sr=1-7
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=24456
https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs740h/denon-avr-s740h-7.2-ch-x-75-watts-a/v-receiver-w/heos/1.html
Option 1: Ascend Acoustics HTM-200 SE left, right, center + Rythmik L12 subwoofer, $940 + add side speakers such as NHT SuperZero for $115 or use the Bostons
Option 2: NHT SO + SVS subwoofer ($960) or NHT SZ + RSL subwoofer ($781)
They did. It is a Klipsch RP-250C. Two woofers 5.25 inchs in diamete. Here is the link to amazon.
Without a lot of info, but assuming you want to keep it all pretty basic, this is my best shot. Before taxes you're at $687, but you could downgrade the sub to the Sub-1000, or skip the rear channels altogether for now. You'll need some speaker stands for the front, mounts for the rear, speaker wire, etc. So, not a perfect list, but here we go:
If you're set on the receiver, a pair of Bic DV84 for $140 each or a pair of Polk Monitor 60s for $160 each. Bic DV62CLRS center for $100 and DV62si for the rear at $110 for the pair. Bic F12 sub for $185. Maybe a pair of Fluance bookshelves for $180 a pair, and Bipolar for the for $200 for the rear, then find a center, hard to beat the bic for the price as far as a sub though. The Bic 84s, and Monitor 60s stand up pretty well to heavy bass, the F12 will add the necessary kick in the balls.
Not sure why you x-posted this to audiophile, with that budget the only way will get audiophile grade is if you can find the score of the century on craigslist.
I'm a huge fan of the BICs, and especially love their matching center channel. You could get the speakers and center with your budget.
I would not try to make that movie vs music differentiation for speakers in your budget range.
If you would like speakers that can play loud for house parties for $220, these will: https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-FH6-LCR-6-5-Inch-Frequency/dp/B0015A8Y3E/
Or look for a used pair of Klipsch bookshelves with 6 or 6.5" drivers. They won't play quite as loud as those BICs, but will be louder than those Pioneers and, IMO, sound better.
Then for a sub, Dayton Sub 1200 or even better if you can afford it: Premier Acoustics PA-150 (check Ebay)
Ah, I remember those days. My advice is to try to future proof your receiver so as you come across any extra beer money you can upgrade your speakers as you go. To keep it around $300, I would go with this Sony receiver. I have the model up from this and it's a good entry-level unit that will last you 5 years. Then go with this center channel. Keep in mind that in a 5 speaker system, the center channel will do most of the heavy-lifting so ideally, you don't want to go too cheap.
Left, Center, and Right speakers should all be from the same series, or at least the same brand. I believe this is the matching center for your mains. I definitely would upgrade the Subwoofer after the center, you'll find it makes a much larger difference than the rears or sides.
Holy wall of text my man. Stay away from the BIC as others have said its a horn tweeter (like klipsch) and it might nto mesh well with what you have. The Miccas are 4" woofers so I would shy away from them as well. Why not look at the infinity pc251 for 149.99
http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Primus-Two-way-Speaker-Center-Channel/dp/B0046A8R5A/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1291827926&sr=1-2
Or this polk?
http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Center-Channel-Speaker/dp/B0018QROM2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418055757&sr=8-1&keywords=center+channel+speaker
I don't know that I would go with the quad CV center channel either, I think I would do this instead:
http://www.amazon.com/Cerwin-Vega-VE-5C-Center-Channel-Speaker/dp/B000EI0EB8/ref=pd_cp_e_1
5.1 surround sound with a HDR/4k Passthrough receiver. I'd say bare bones about $650 or so for the lowest end gear.
EDIT: Quick throw together here. Would work well though. A little over budget, but probably worth it
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Monitor-Floorstanding-Speaker/dp/B006QL0XXQ/ref=lp_3236453011_1_12?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1482959814&sr=1-12
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Center-Channel-Speaker/dp/B0018QROM2/ref=sr_1_2?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1482960146&sr=1-2
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-T15-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B002RJLHB8/ref=sr_1_1?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1482959871&sr=1-1&refinements=p_89%3APolk+Audio
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002KVQBA/ref=s9_acsd_top_hd_bw_bitM_c_x_1_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-8&pf_rd_r=DAXEP2BDFVM1W8SMJQBM&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=6fc71d99-5362-526e-b48e-9a05897aee91&pf_rd_i=172568
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrxv381/yamaha-rx-v381-5.1-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html
the receiver
the towers
the center channel
the sub
Hi, thanks for the great guide, I'm more or less going to follow this for my set-up.
Any reason to use/not-use this pioneer center channel instead of 1 or 2 of the bookshelf pioneers?
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C21-Watt-2-Way-Speaker/dp/B004MF4S0M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342097312&sr=8-1&keywords=pioneer+center+channel
/r/hometheater would probably be better
I'd get a $100 5.1 receiver off Craigslist (there are almost always a ton of Denons running around)
And 2 pairs of these: http://www.walmart.com/ip/24311964?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227017414899&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=25381710156&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=50599128036&veh=sem
And one of these for $95: http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C21-Watt-2-Way-Speaker/dp/B004MF4S0M
And then save up for this for $198: http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1375666936&sr=1-1&keywords=bic+f12
$100+$78+$78+$95 = $351 + $198 = $549
The full Pioneer set below. If you can wait for a Newegg sale, they get cheaper. There are also older models of these for less, but the new ones are said to be a big improvement.
Floorstanders
Bookshelf
Center
Sub
Budget around $600
Type 5.1 surround sound
Setup Desktop PC
Uses gaming, watching movies, or listening to music
Room dimensions not quite sure. About 10' by 12'
Idea #1
Center speaker: Pioneer SP-C22 Andrew Jones Designed Center Channel Speaker
Front/Rear speakers: Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Andrew Jones Designed Bookshelf Loudspeakers
Subwoofer: Polk Audio PSW10 10-Inch Monitor Series Powered Subwoofer
Idea #2
Energy 5.1 Take Classic Home Theater System
Specs:
My mother board: MSI Z87-G43
My graphics card: EVGA gtx760
Running windows 7 home premium
Questions:
What I would like:
edit: formatting
These go on sale regularly for about $140 a pair. Just missed the sale today, they might come back though.
Center channel
Paired with:
7 channel atmos capable receiver.
These Pioneer speakers trade blows with $600+ towers. Check out some reviews on your own. There is some crazy deals on these sometimes for $100 a pair for the towers.
It has a weird shape, it's ok. I can't quite get the angle right , the stereo image still feels to low
sp-c22
What about this setup:
Dv64 Click Here
Center
Click Here
F12
Click Here
Bic Acoustech PL-200 Subwoofer - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OFXV5IO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_p43azb6KPQWXD.
Add these...
BIC America Venturi DV64 2-Way Tower Speaker, Black (Single) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00011KLOI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_H83azbPJTWW6M
And these...
BIC America DV62si Bookshelf Speakers (Pair, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00006JPDI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_m93azbQ5KSMEM
Can't find the center channel model right now, will post later. Edit found it! BIC America DV-62CLRS 6-Inch 2-Way Center Channel Speaker https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00009WBYL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_k79azbVHSM7VV
They sound incredible!!
If you plan on ordering from amazon and don't need your setup right away, check out the price history on the speakers at camelcamelcamel.com. a few time per year they sell at about $70 per pair rather than ~125. Also, my local best buy has those speakers on display, so you might be able to check them out there.
Also check out this center speaker (http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-DV-62CLRS-Channel-Speaker/dp/B00009WBYL/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419740965&sr=8-1&keywords=BIC+america+center). I saw good reviews for it.
Thanks again for the advice. What do you think of this setup? It's only about $50 more but it seems like a lot of people are recommending BIC in this sub.
BIC America Venturi DV84 2-Way Tower Speaker -
(2x) $155 - https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-Venturi-Speaker-Single/dp/B00012F7CI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1506711455&sr=1-1&keywords=dv84
BIC America DV-62CLRS 6-Inch 2-Way Center Channel Speaker -
$115 - https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-DV-62CLRS-Channel-Speaker/dp/B00009WBYL
BIC America F12 12-Inch 475-Watt Front Firing Powered Subwoofer - $212 - https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1506711817&sr=1-1&keywords=bic+powered+subwoofer
The problem with the Pioneer and Polk are those terrible center channels. That's always been the weak link in those 2 lines. What's the budget?
3 BIC FH6's would do well for HT due to their horn tweeter.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015A8Y3E/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I1U4YDFJ335HNS&colid=136AGDTN2EPZ5
I didn't get much input in /r/hometheater, so I am going to cross-post this here:
> I want to upgrade my home theater setup. I'd like to pick up some higher-end towers, and have been on the wait-list for the Chane A5RX-C's for 6+ months now.
>
> I'm curious if that is still a good upgrade path, or if I should be looking at other options? And if so, what?
>
> Current setup:
>
> L/R - BIC America FH6
> Center - BIC FH6 LCR
> Rears - BIC PL-66
> Sub - (1) BIC F12
> * Receiver - Denon E400 - 7.1
>
>
> Planned upgrade path:
>
> 1. Replace left and right speakers with tower variants and a matching center.
> 2. Figure out NAS vs HTPC and the universal remote situation.
> 3. Upgrade receiver to 7.2 and pull in another sub.
>
> Speaker upgrade options:
>
> 1. Upmarket BIC Americas -
> BIC PL-980 and PL-28II
> 2. Chane's top end tower and matching center -
> Chane A5RX-C and A2RX-C
> 3. Wildcard. Suggestions welcome! Accessories4less is local to me, so something like KEF Q700 or Q900 open boxes are on the table.
>
> Room is 18x26. Use is 60% music, 40% TV/gaming.
>
> I've been happy with the efficiency and clarity of the BICs. Definitely enjoyed the volume. I'm just looking to upgrade and in a better place financially than I was two years ago. Curious what I could get for a few dollars more.
Following your advice, I checked some of the source audio settings. I did find a few that were set to surround (5.1 or 7.1). I have since changed them to "stereo" and this has seemed to have made some improvement. Although, still not to where I was expecting the volume level to be. Therefore, I just pulled the trigger on a BIC America FH6-LCR to be used as a center.
When I add a center, do I still configure the source audio for stereo and enable the center channel in my receiver? Should I also go through the Audyssey config again?
In commercial theaters with height channels, the speakers are pointed backwards a bit. It's hard to find images that illustrate this, but you'll see it in AMC's new Dolby Cinema theaters. Depending on the slope of your ceiling and the proximity of the speakers to the couch, it might not be ideal, but it's rare to have a 100% ideal theater room.
I read earlier today on this sub about Speakercraft's AIM series. If you have the money for it, then it might make sense to replace the JBLs with those. As far as alternatives for the other speakers, I'm not really sure. BIC America's Acoustec speakers are approximately the same color if you decide to run them without a grille (of that's really important to you), but they use horn tweeters, so they likely have the same level of brightness as Klipsch. I'll check the buying guide for another one that I don't remember the name of and report back.
Edit: Checked the guide.
On the slightly cheaper end, there's the Pioneer Andrew Jones series. Pioneer makes good speakers, but stay away from their receivers; Pioneer is owned by Onkyo now, and that brings Onkyo's build quality issues with it. Denon, Marantz, Yamaha, and Harman/Kardon are the companies that you should look at for receivers.
Bookshelf, Center, Tower
On the slightly more expensive end, there's the aforementioned BIC America speakers. Bookshelf, LCR (Left/Center/Right), Tower
The center speaker is very important. Definitely a necessity. I looked around pawn shops and garage sales for a few weeks before I found this Polk for $25.
I also found this on CL for $80: https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Center-Channel-Speaker/dp/B0018QROM2
It's common. The speakers move to create sound and when they are new everything is tight. When they loosen up and move more freely they sound better. If you read reviews on speakers a lot of people talk about the difference after 50-100 hours of use. I think there's a Polk audio center channel that should fit and has great reviews.
Polk Audio CS10 Center Channel Speaker (Single, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0018QROM2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_54hUzb6WVE9DB
Thanks for the feedback.
I read on r/zeos that it's best to match the brand of the center speaker with the surround. Do you agree? On Amazon this Polk center channel speaker has great reviews and in my budget.
Hey there! Long time reddit stalker, first time poster! Hoping I can access the font of knowledge here to validate my potential new home theatre setup. Here is what I am thinking.
Receiver: Yamaha RX-V679BL 7.2-Channel MusicCast AV Receiver with Bluetooth
2x Floorstanding Loudspeakers: Polk Audio Monitor-75T Four-Way Floorstanding Speaker
1x center channel speaker: Polk Audio CS10 Center Channel Speaker
1x powered sub: Polk Audio PSW505 12-Inch Powered Subwoofer
Would love any input, trying to stick to around ~1200$ neighborhood. 3.1 is fine for my needs now ( although I may expand to 5.1 down the line ). Any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
Nakdeyes
>I appreciate the help. Holy crap those prices... I think I payed $150 for the sub and traded an old bycicle for the bookshelves. A new rc 64 looks more expensive than my whole set up, lol. But the info is useful. I'll keep an eye out for anything similar on Craigslist or in the pawn shops
The RC-62 ll is $279 shipped by Amazon. You're wheeling dealing skills aside that's not expensive at all for a matching MTM. If you can find a BIC PL28 ll that is also a good match for Klipsch's horned design and a bit cheaper as well.
Subwoofer – $249
Front L-R - $750 pr BIC Acoustech PL-980L-PL-980R
Center Speaker – $199 BIC Acoustech PL-28II Center Speaker
Surrounds — $239 pr BIC Acoustech PL-66 Surround Speakers
Best Buy does sell BIC America – just the crappy ones. See if they will order these and price match Amazon. I haven't done the calculations but I think that brings you right in at 1200+ the sub. Or see if you can sell your Best Buy GC. All the speakers have 5-7 your warranties and should last you 15+ years. IMHO
What about this? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001VIPUFU/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B001VIPUFU&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwpuresimula-20
Yep, these will work well with the Yamaha. You'll want to get the matching center channel. The BIC F12 is the best budget sub that'll reinforce the Infinity's well.
How's that compared to this one?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0044D1788?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ord_cart_shr&smid=A1J7WSBJHTGUFA
> Center $140: http://smile.amazon.com/Infinity-Primus-Two-way-Speaker-Center-Channel/dp/B0046A8R5A/ref=sr_1_1?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1464963428&sr=1-1&keywords=infinity+primus
For a few extra bucks, what 2.5 would you recommend? I am trying to stay away from 2 ways
EDIT: right now I am looking at http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GJXSXCY/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AKR88PAWTQVN2
Would you rather have a bookshelf speaker on its side as a center speaker?
On the left
Yamaha RX-V377
On top of the Yamaha is a Behringer UMC202HD
The mic is a Shure SM7B
On the right side of the desk is my HP docking station for my work laptop. I work from home a lot so it's nice to have a dock.
In the middle there is an Infinity center channel
I've got 4 of these, front left and right and rear left and right
Using a spdif connection from my motherboard to the receiver.
The subs are two of these.
Keyboard is this
As of tomorrow, mouse will be this
And this huge ass mouse mat
Awesome! That would be perfect. Thank you again for your help. It seems like I might not be able to get the Polk S20 speakers because the buyer isn't responding yet. So just in case, I think I found another really nice deal. All for just $200 he's selling...
Pioneer VSX-521-K
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-VSX-521-K-Receiver-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B004M8RPAY
Pair of Pioneer FS51 Floorstanding Speakers
https://www.amazon.com/pioneer-sp-fs51-lr-floorstanding-loudspeakers-discontinued/dp/b004h1m4no
Pair of Pioneer BS21 Bookshelf Speakers
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS21-LR-80-Watts-2-Way-Speakers/dp/B004MEWZE4
Pioneer SP-C21 Center-Channel Speaker
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C21-Speaker-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B004MF4S0M/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
That also leaves me enough money to buy a subwoofer like the Dayton SUB-1200. But the receiver is a different model then the one you suggested. I'm not sure if it's still good. Would that be enough to drive all those speakers adequately?
In your opinion, do you think that would be a nice sounding setup for movies and music?
This the matching center for the older model? http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C21-Speaker-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B004MF4S0M/ref=pd_bxgy_e_img_y
Shape is also quite similar to this "Andrew Jones" Pioneer design:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008NCD2EI?ref=emc_b_5_t
Quick update. Speakers are all set, and they sound pretty good. I'm not an expert, and have nothing to compare them to, but I'd say that I got a good deal for $120. Dialogue in movies is nice and crisp, and the mids are quite nice too. I'm very pleased with my first foray into home theater.
Most definitely not returning them!
Thanks again for your help. I'm now looking for a decent sub and a center.
What are your thoughts on the
PanasonicsPioneers?http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C22-Designed-Channel-Speaker/dp/B008NCD2EI/
and for the sub
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SW-8MK2-Designed-100-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B008NCD2PC/
Edit: Pioneer, not Panasonic
In my experience, the most important part of your setup is having 3 matching speakers for the front sound stage (left, center and right). The goal here is for all 3 speakers to blend together, so when sound pans back and forth, it sounds the same.
You're best bet might be to replace the front 3 speakers with 3 in the same series.
On a quick look, you could go with These Pioneer front speakers with This Matching center. for a total pric of about $200 for all 3 speakers.
Or for a little less, you could go with these Micca speakers with This matching center for about $160 for all 3.
You could probably sell those 2 Bose front speakers on ebay and make it close to an even swap while boosting your sound quality.
Hi
I'm hoping someone here might be able to help me with a home stereo problem. I'm still quite new to this tech.
My wife got my a center channel speaker for my home stereo setup for my birthday, but I didn't realize that it's 6 ohms. (this one to be exact https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008NCD2EI).
However, my receiver only accepts a minimum of 8 ohms.
Is there a device that I can buy to convert the 6 ohm impedance to 8 ohms. Preferably, I'd stick two speaker wires in on one side of a box and two more on the other side, and the conversion would happen in between. Not sure if the problem is that simple, though.
Or do I have to ship this speaker back to Amazon?
If so, can anyone recommend a good center channel speaker in the $100 range?
This amp (I assume you meant receiver) and this subwoofer are pretty standard entry level affairs for home theater. Leaves enough left over for the matching center to you set.
Really depends on where you are comfortable with your budget ending up. I think the next step up would be using the receiver I linked above with 2 of the Pioneer SP-FS52 floorstanding speakers. Total without taxes or shipping (including the receiver) would be about $440. You can use the rest of your budget for some speaker wire, and a surge protector.
When you're ready to upgrade, you can get the Pioneer SP-BS22 bookshelf speakers, the Pioneer SP-C22 center channel, and a decent budget subwoofer such as the Dayton Audio SUB-1200 or the BIC America F12.
I would go with the Pioneer BS22/C22 setup and add an HSU sub
Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Andrew Jones Designed Bookshelf Loudspeakers https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B008NCD2LG/
x2
Pioneer SP-FS52-LR Andrew Jones Designed Floor standing Loudspeaker (each) https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B008NCD2S4/
x2
Pioneer SP-C22 Andrew Jones Designed Center Channel Speaker https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B008NCD2EI/
Pioneer SW-8MK2 Andrew Jones Designed 100-Watt Powered Subwoofer https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B008NCD2PC/
Onkyo TX-SR343 5.1-Channel A/V Receiver https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00WSED53A/
I have two of these
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-FS52-Designed-standing-Loudspeaker/dp/B008NCD2S4
and the matching center channel
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C22-Designed-Channel-Speaker/dp/B008NCD2EI
and love them. They are inexpensive and sound pretty good and the reviews on the boards are decent as well. Since they are a bigger speaker they will give you a little bit better depth than the book shelf.
I posted this elsewhere and am just gathering thoughts as to whether or not I should pull the trigger or pass, as I am new to the audio world. I can get this setup for $115, and it would be used as an entry level 3.1 home theatre setup. It is used in good condition.
Pioneer SP-BS22-LR (pair) https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG
Pioneer SP-C22 https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C22-Designed-Channel-Speaker/dp/B008NCD2EI
Pioneer SW-8MK2 https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SW-8MK2-Designed-100-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B008NCD2PC
It would also include this receiver: Yamaha HTR-3066 https://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_amps/htr-3066/index.html
Jump or pass? Thanks!
these speakers
Get a center that will match your the towers you want. Or start with a good sub and save up for matching fronts.
All in on my fronts was $300. Fluance. I got the book shelves a little cheaper than their current price. Eventually I am going to get their towers and move the book shelves to the rear.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01A5UB4JU/ref=y
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01A5TNHWS/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Long story short, my front left tower has a damaged tweeter and my google skills cannot find the replacement available for sale.
1. What is your budget?
I am open to spending up to $1500.
2. What are you looking for?
I want a new LCR and I think I am leaning towards floor speakers sa I have kids and bookshelves on stands seem WAY more likely to get knocked over. I COULD mount some speakers on the wall, but again... they might be likely to hang on to them. (Kids. Not Even Once.) Also I am NOT interested in ATMOS at this time.
All in I think I prefer the ease of use with the towers but I dont know if they are the best bang for the buck for me as my subwoofer handles the bottom end pretty well.
3. How will you typically be using the gear?
I use it for home theater (Movies and Games) 50% and music the other 50%.
4. What gear do you own?
5. What do you intend on using for a source?
I stream Spotify Premium or use my PS4 for BlueRay, Games, Netflix and Youtube (mostly kids).
6. What material will you be using your gear for?
In order of importance I think I want movies, music and gaming. Lately I have been listening to a lot of
7. Are you willing to buy used?
Yes. My problem with used research is there are SOOOO many brands and models for me to lookup on a price/sound ratio that I quickly get inundated.
All in I have been thinking about updating my setup for a while, and this tweeter issue is a perfect excuse.
I have a buddy using the HSU 5.1 and it sounds great. Otherwise I don't have much exposure to a lot of other brands (and there seem to be a LOT of them).
As of right now the following combinations have caught my attention:
What other speakers should I consider? Or is there a clear winner?
OK well let's start with the basics - you will absolutely need an amplifier if you don't have one - the speakers you have selected (more on those later) are passive speakers.
Do you have a 4K TV? Do you have a TV at all? If not that definitely changes things. I for one have a 1080p TV and I'm not going to upgrade to 4K until adaptive frame rate and HDR specifications are finalized. Because of that, I decided to buy a used Marantz SR8002. I was able to pick up an amp that retailed at $2500 for $350 on eBay - and it's an absolute monster. Do I miss having new features like IP control and Audessey XT32? Of course. But since I don't have a 4K TV I can manage. Anyway...off topic. If you want a good 4K receiver I'm a huge fan of the Marantz SR6011 or SR6010. They both have Audessey XT32 and independent DSP-controlled subwoofer outs (i.e. the receiver doesn't send the same signal to both sub outs - it can adjust them to correct for room response - which should make a significant difference).
Back to speakers - I'm personally not a huge fan of the Klipsch sound - it's pretty harsh in my opinion. However, I am a huge fan of the new ELAC Uni-Fi line. You can get the UF5 Towers for $1000/pair and the UC5 Center for $350. But audition before you buy!
For 1000 you can do a lot better on the subs, in my opinion. You could do two SB-1000s (sealed) or two PB-1000s (ported). You could also do a single SB-2000 (sealed) or PB-2000 (ported) and still have some change left over.
Do you have a sonos system in the rest of the house? If you want streaming audio, you could use a Chromecast - it works with Spotify and other streaming services and costs $30 (instead of the $350 for the Sonos Connect).
Thank you for the advice about the same series. I guess I lucked out with my spontaneous purchase then as I believe these are all the same series. I also forgot to mention I did get a sub-woofer as well. So the whole setup is like this. Think this will be pretty decent for a first timer?
Polk S15
Polk S35
Polk PSW505
And the reciever
Onkyo TX-NR575
Hmm -- I tend to agree, but also wonder -- are there decent center speakers that are roughly soundbar-sized that could mount with the TV like soundbars can?
Just did a quick search. Maybe something like this, if it could be mounted below the TV and move with it -- https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Signature-S35-American/dp/B01LW8H3NX
And then yes, two small bookshelf speakers.
If you have a receiver you don't really need an amp or dac. I'd look at center channel options next. Once you have a center, then I'd look at rears. I'd recommend building it out piecemeal and saving up, as cramming 3 more speakers into $200 would be pretty hard, unless you just meant $200 per component. You're at 2.1, 3.1 is the next step, then save up and then get some new fronts and move the t15s to the rear. You'll probably want to replace the t15s eventually, but for right now just get yourself set up.
Here's a great center for $200 https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Center-Speaker-Black/dp/B07B4Q5LW2/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=elac+center+channel&qid=1563306052&s=electronics&sr=1-3
You can also look at the Klipsch centers (I love mine, have the RP model, but it's a bit above your stated price range, they make smaller centers that would work for you as well though).
I'm not sure how good it really is, but Amazon has a small Micca center for pretty cheap that could be an option depending on room size (I'd try to find expert reviews)
Utilizing this sale, I'm hoping to upgrade from my built-in TCL TV speakers. Any thoughts or input on this setup before I buy?
Receiver:
DENON AVR-S640H
Speakers:
ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2 Bookshelf Speakers
Center:
ELAC Debut 2.0 C5.2 Center Speaker
Subwoofer:
BIC America F12 12-Inch 475-Watt Front Firing Powered Subwoofer
Speaker Wire: AmazonBasics 16-Gauge Speaker Wire - 100 Feet
Things I'm not sure about yet...
Speaker stands? Center speaker stand/raiser? Any wires for sub to connect to receiver (or anything else I'm missing)?
Here is a picture of the room. TV is a touch higher than usually recommended because I wanted the ability to see it over the top of my monitor as I work. Thank you!
Here's what I would do if I was purchasing right now, this is assuming the room isn't huge and you aren't sitting a mile away from the TV. Some of these are some decent sales.
TV: 55" TCL TV ($380)
AVR: Denon S530BT ($150)
Sub: HSU VTF-1 MK3 ($430 with shipping)
L/R: ELAC Debut 2.0 B5.2 ($250)
Center: ELAC Debut 2.0 C5.2 ($190)
Surround L/R: Micca Covo-S ($45)
Speaker Wire: Amazon Basics 14 Gauge ($16)
​
Total: $1461
​
Probably will go a bit over $1500 with tax, but I think this would be an extremely impressive first home theater and is what I would do if I was starting fresh with that budget.
There is a sale going on right now in the R 52C on Amazon btw https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-52C-Powerful-Detailed-Channel/dp/B07FK41FGL
Here are some options that match your Description:
Orb Audio Mod1 price: $260 - Full Match
Sonos One (Gen 2) price: $200 - Full Match
Olafus Outdoor price: $180 - Full Match
Klipsch R-52C price: $180 - Full Match
Edifier R1700BT price: $150 - Full Match
Source: BudgetSet
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I don't think i need the full home theater setup with surround sound, but really just want some good sound for TV, Xbox, echo dot, and I'm interested in getting a record player. Would all of this go through the receiver? Is this the setup you have?
Center speaker
Bookshelf speakers
Thanks so much for the feedback. Based on yours and some other comments, I think I'll start with receiver, L/R, then center, then subwoofer.
> What are you trying to listen on headphones?
For the headphones I'm just hoping for a simple solution to pass all audio, be it console, built-in chromecast, blueray player, to 1 or 2 headphones. I am interested in getting a Shield eventually, but currently my TV's built in streaming options are suitable.
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Thought on these alternatives to Polk?
VS.
VS.
I would watch prices on the elac center, they have bounced all over the place price wise since they came out. I got one for 150$ new from amazon. I use camelcamelcamel to see price changes on stuff at amazon. Then strike when the iron is hot. https://camelcamelcamel.com/ELAC-Debut-Center-Speaker-Black/product/B07B4Q5LW2
it's not over killing the sound it's getting better sound quality, good doesn't equal loud. Just saying those speakers you're looking at aren't special and your budget could get you far better speakers in terms of quality. For example
You could get 2 pair (4 speakers)
https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Black/dp/B07B4Q5587
Here's a center
https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Center-Speaker-Black/dp/B07B4VCT99
sub
https://www.amazon.com/Debut-Powered-Subwoofer-Andrew-DS81-BK/dp/B0774KV6YT
It's just a bit over budget but here's Andrew Jones designed speakers, look them up on youtube for reviews on the ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2 Bookshelf Speakers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLvodAEiveA
Others have mentioned it but it bears repeating. Those are low quality speakers. It is NOT worth investing in the equipment that you would need to drive them. Don't throw good money after bad. Start from scratch and get something significantly better.
AVR-S510BT - $169. Entry level receiver from one of the best brands available. A good and very affordable starting point.
That's a good entry level 5.0 setup for around $600. If you're on a budget, consider just getting the AVR and front left and right speakers for now. Add the center, surrounds, and a subwoofer of your choice, as your budget allows in whatever order you prefer. I can guarantee you it will sound better than any possible set up with you existing Sony speakers.
Alright, I decided on
Projector: http://www.amazon.com/Optoma-HD25e-3D-Home-Theater-Projector/dp/B00E19RFFO
Screen: http://www.ebay.com/itm/92-Panoview-Graywolf-II-Home-Theater-Projector-Screen-/130375719111
Receiver: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004ZP72MU/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B004ZP72MU&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwpuresimula-20
Central, Left, and Right Speaker: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008NCD2EI/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B008NCD2EI&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwpuresimula-20
Shelf: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008NCD2LG/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B008NCD2LG&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwpuresimula-20
Rear: http://www.fluance.com/product/Fluance_XLBP_Wide_Dispersion_Bipolar_Surround_Sound_Speakers.eng-111.html
Subwoofer: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015A8Y5M/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0015A8Y5M&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwpuresimula-20
Does that all sound right for a 7.1?
Pioneer SP-BS22-LR for $129 for the pair, and Pioneer SP-C22 center for $99
If you have access to a Frys in the USA, this is probably the best you can do for a new system:
Pioneer BS22 x2 pair (they go on sale each month for $68 a pair)
http://www.frys.com/product/7327224
Pioneer Pioneer SP-C22 (on sale at AMAZON for $80)
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C22-Designed-Channel-Speaker/dp/B008NCD2EI
SVS PB10 $500 (OR grab one from HSU, Rythmik, Outlaw, etc)
https://www.svsound.com/products/pb-1000
Frys also sells a Klipsch 15" powered subwoofer for around $400 when on sale.
Hint: If you have the room, and patience for the next Frys sale, that 15" Klipsch is probably the best bang for the buck HT sub around.
That leaves 250+ for a receiver, depending on the sub you choose. Accessories4less, Frys sales, Bestbuy sales all have good to great deals on receivers if you have time to wait for a sale.
sorry i forgot to add, im canadian so getting deals from canada is pretty hard /:
i don't really have a budget, but i would prefer to not spend too much money. im looking for value, and i don't want to spend any more than 400 bucks(canadian), but preferable i would like to spend less than that. if you think value lies somewhere above 400, then i don't mind getting it if the sound quality is improved by a huge amount
i'm gonna be using this for a playstation 4 pro, so i kinda want the hdmi input rather than optical or whatever
i also don't want to wait until black friday, as i have alot of free time now and i wanna set it up now.
when i look at all of these on canadian amazon, its just below 1000 bucks
https://www.amazon.ca/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG
https://www.amazon.ca/Pioneer-SP-C22-Designed-Channel-Speaker/dp/B008NCD2EI
https://www.amazon.ca/Dayton-Audio-B652-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B002RMPHMU
https://www.amazon.ca/Dayton-Audio-SUB-1000-10-Inch-Subwoofer/dp/B0063NU3AA
https://www.amazon.ca/Yamaha-RX-V377-5-1-Channel-Theater-Receiver/dp/B00HZE2WW8
again, thanks for your help, its the first time in this sub, and my first time posting things on reddit haha (:
Receiver: https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs530bt/denon-avr-s530bt-5.2-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html
Speakers:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B008NCD2S4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B008NCD2EI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I just picked up this simple pioneer since it dropped 30 bucks recently, though it looks like it's back up as of today or yesterday. Still good at ~$100 though. I have some old ass but good bigass bookshelf Polks as my fronts, Klipsch bookshelf as my rears and a Yamaha sub so i didn't really give a shit trying to match, lol.
More to the point it had lots of good reviews, so I pulled the trigger when it was 66 bones. Happy I did. I too can now hear dialogue when I'm sitting in center of couch, lol.
My suggested system:
https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-S510BT-Channel-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B00YAO43YG
http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-sub-1500-15-150-watt-powered-subwoofer--300-634
https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-Reference-R-25C-Channel-Speaker/dp/B00LMFYRIS
https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-15M-Bookshelf-Speaker-Pair/dp/B00LMF41IY
https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-14S-Surround-Pair-Black/dp/B00LMFFRH8
Total - $1,020
Another user had create this setup and linked it to me. Do you think the one you created or this one would be better?
Receiver - $230 https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-S510BT-Channel-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B00YAO43YG
Subwoofer - $180: http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-sub-1500-15-150-watt-powered-subwoofer--300-634
Center Channel - $160 https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-Reference-R-25C-Channel-Speaker/dp/B00LMFYRIS
Front L/R Speakers - $200 https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-15M-Bookshelf-Speaker-Pair/dp/B00LMF41IY
Surround Speakers - $250 https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-14S-Surround-Pair-Black/dp/B00LMFFRH8
Total - $1,020
If you get the R-28F then get the r-25c center
http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-1060677-R-25C-Center-Speaker/dp/B00LMFYRIS
Klipsch R25C - 18.75" - $197
Klipsch R-15M - $159/Pair
Total - $356.
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Klipsch KC-25 Icon - 18.75" - $122Klipsch KF-28 Icon - $245/pairTotal - $369---
[Sony Sony SSCS8 Center channel] (https://www.amazon.com/Sony-SSCS8-3-Driver-Channel-Speaker/dp/B00O8YLNRS/) - 17" - $118
Sony SS-CS3 3-Way 4-Driver Floor-Standing Speaker - $316/pair
Total - $434 .
You have to catch everything on sale and you get great value!
Klipsch R-25C Center Channel Speaker
Klipsch R-26F Floorstanding Speaker (Each)
Klipsch R-120SW Subwoofer
True... I don't think they will. If not for me, being interested in tech, we would have been on a g router still I bet.
When cleaning up for the move, we still have papers from when my mom was teaching 15 years ago, as she thinks she can reuse them or give them to us (the kids) as inspiration... yeah I don't think it will be able to help much nowadays.
Anyways what are your thoughts on these together?
https://www.frys.com/product/8541029?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-25C-Center-Channel-Speaker/dp/B00LMFYRIS/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=center+speaker&qid=1572567835&sr=8-8
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I'll start at 3.1 for now (have a sub still) and get the rears and atmos later if possible
If you want everything around $1,000 here's a decent plan.
Receiver Denon 1500 for $300 https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrx1500h/denon-avr-x1500h-7.2-ch-x-80-watts-a/v-receiver-w/heos/1.html
Subwoofer Bic PL200 II for $300
https://www.amazon.com/Bic-Acoustech-PL-200-II-Subwoofer/dp/B074131NKS
Front L/R NHT SuperOne (2 of them)
https://www.amazon.com/NHT-SuperOne-2-1-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00LJX4HCY/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=nht+super&qid=1566675258&s=electronics&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzTTRER1RCUVk0NUdWJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODc2MDc4MUVCNDJUT0VHSjlDMyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMjkwNzU3VUFISldVUFowWllOJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
Center NHT Super Center
https://www.amazon.com/NHT-Super-Center-Channel-Speaker/dp/B00QHDC32C/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=nht+super&qid=1566675307&s=electronics&sr=1-4
Surround L/R (2 of them)
https://www.amazon.com/NHT-SuperZero-2-1-Mini-Monitor-Speaker/dp/B00CKNOYWK/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=nht+super&qid=1566675307&s=electronics&sr=1-5
With a bit bigger budget you would still want that receiver. Bump the subwoofer up to the SVS PB-1000 (most likely). And end up with a lot of different speaker options to consider.
I have NHT speakers and have been very happy with them. This would work for you.
NHT Super One for your left and right ($206 /pair)
https://www.amazon.com/NHT-SuperOne-2-1-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00LJX4HCY
NHT Super Center ($130)
https://www.amazon.com/NHT-Super-Center-Channel-Speaker/dp/B00QHDC32C
NHT Super Zero for your left and right surround ($120/pair)
https://www.amazon.com/NHT-SuperZero-2-1-Mini-Monitor-Speaker/dp/B00CKNOYWK
HSU VTF2-MK5 12" Subwoofer ($509)
http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-2mk5.html
Yamaha RX-V485 Receiver ($350)
https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V485BL-5-1-Channel-Receiver-MusicCast/dp/B07CF9H3KW
Total is $1315 leaving you some money for shipping of the sub, some speaker wire, and banana plugs.
Based on what you and others said, I am planning on this. I'd like your thoughts...
Front and sides: NHT SuperZero 2.1, $115/pair
Center NHT SuperCenter, $151
Martin Logan Dynamo 500 (Found a refurb for $180)
First of all, thank you for a such a detailed post! You provided great insight and appreciate that.
Now - To be perfectly honest, I don't know too much about bipoles and dipoles to comfortably experiment with them. But I will try to educate myself further and research before I purchase the front 3 speakers. Do you have any floorstanding tower speaker recommendation for these?
The set up for the seating is simply 2 rows of 4 seats each, the rear seating row is slightly elevated on a step.
The media room in question is wired for a 7.1 set up (2 at the back wallmounted, 2 at the sides wallmounted, 2 at the front floorstanding, and the center speaker and sub in the middle front).
You suggested that I use 2 subs, but the room is only wired for 1 sub at the front. Would a larger subwoofer be a suitable substitute for two smaller ones? If so, do you have any recommendations that would work well in tandem with my receiver? Also, thanks for the video reference on the sub placement!
All wiring in the room is 14 gauge. I will look into the banana plugs, they look easy and convenient and i'll certainly pick up a couple of those when this is all said and done.
What do you think of this set up /u/homeboi808 ? I have to ask because you seem very knowledgeable in all this!
Receiver: Denon AVR-X3300W
Subwoofer: https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-12SW-12-Inch-Front-Firing-Subwoofer/dp/B00MJ1YR8Y/ref=pd_bxgy_23_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=X61GNYGX8Z19KA6JEN9B
Front Towers: https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-26F-Floorstanding-Speaker-Each/dp/B00LMDYM6W/ref=pd_sim_23_19?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=8E24TMRWR6S9TGCZ6W1R
Center: https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-RP-250C-Center-Channel-Speaker/dp/B00S4HA4GQ/ref=pd_lpo_23_tr_t_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=CW0N9DRTVFS8G4NZGHW9
Side Surround: https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-RP-250S-Surround-Speaker-Each/dp/B00S4HE1QA
Back-Surround: https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-RP-150M-Bookshelf-Speaker-Ebony/dp/B00RXHEIHE
If youre wondering, I prefer Klispch because I get a little 5% family discount on their products from my cousin. I would really appreciate your input!
This'll be the the center I get. Couldn't remember the model number when posting.
Klipsch RP250C
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S4HA4GQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_sX8OwbH5F4HBB
ok what do you think of these?
Subwoofer https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473000849&sr=8-1&keywords=PSW10
Center channel https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-T30-Channel-Speaker/dp/B013LIN554/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473000909&sr=8-1&keywords=Polk+T30
Speakers 2 https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-T15-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B002RJLHB8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473000961&sr=8-1&keywords=Polk+T15
Receiver https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-VSX-531-5-1-Channel-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B01G5XKNKW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473001336&sr=8-1&keywords=Pioneer+VSX-531
Or this one https://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-SR353-5-1-Channel-V-Receiver/dp/B01CZW7OD6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473001621&sr=8-1&keywords=Onkyo+TX-SR353
or even this one https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V381BL-Receiver-Black/dp/B01BY7YOAY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473001715&sr=8-1&keywords=yamaha+RX-V381
or https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V481BL-Receiver-Black/dp/B01BY7YPBC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473002972&sr=8-1&keywords=Yamaha+RX-V481
a lot of manufacturers make dedicated center channel speakers, with a pair of woofers, and meant to be set up horizontally so it fits better below the TV.
there's not an actual difference between speakers based on their use - between main channels / surround / centers. you can use any speaker for any position, as long as you have sufficient wattage and the right ohms for your amplifier.
designed centers are arguably better because the dual woofers will put out more volume than a single woofer in a regular bookshelf speaker. this is accomplished by wiring both woofers in series in the center speaker - so you have 2 x 4ohm speakers, which present an 8ohm resistance to the amp. most bookshelf speakers are also 8ohm. so your amp is happy, and you're getting twice the volume, so you're happy :)
for example
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-C-Channel-Speaker-Tweeter/dp/B00HH2GINM/
or
https://www.amazon.com/Fluance-Signature-Two-Way-Channel-HFC/dp/B01A5TNHWS/
I hope you don't mind I found some examples. Onkyo TX-SR444 $319. Monoprice 5.1 speaker set $150. Logitech Harmony Smart Control $70. This will get you something to setup and learn with and it should sound better than what you've had before with a ton more options. The Onkyo has great built in software and a mic to help do some automatic speaker calibration. You can also tweak it manually when you learn more. You can add rear speakers later if you want 7.1. If after a while you find the fronts/center aren't "full" enough you can add something like this and this. When I got started this really helped me out. Reading and research and asking questions helps a ton! Enjoy.
I've blown your friend's budget by about $70 (they would also need to improvise some speaker stands, but this isn't always too much of a problem) and they'll need to drop another ~$20 on speaker wire, but I suspect that this would be a more than satisfying setup for watching movies or listening to music. (I have the same basic setup, a few years older with an AVR-2310. I had an AVR-1604 before that and only replaced for it's lack of HDMI inputs)
Receiver Denon AVR-1613- $299
Front - 2X Infinity Primus P163BK Two-way 6 1/2-Inch - $85.95 ea
Rear - 2X Infinity Primus P153 Two-Way 5 1/4-Inch - $75.95 ea
Center - Infinity Primus PC251 Two-way dual 5-1/4-Inch Speaker - $149.95
Sub Infinity Primus PS410 10-Inch 300-Watt Powered Subwoofer - $299.95
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Nope, way to expensive for your stated budget and doesn't even get you a good subwoofer which was at the top of your list of wants. If you like the Klipsch horn loaded sound signature
5 x Bic FH6 LCR https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-FH6-LCR-6-5-Inch-Frequency/dp/B0015A8Y3E/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=bic+fh6+lcr&qid=1571267350&s=electronics&sr=1-1 $545
Rythmik L12 http://www.rythmikaudio.com/L12.html $549
A good budget AVR on sale https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/onktxsr383/onkyo-tx-sr383-7.2-ch-x-80-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html $199 (including approximate shipping)
Okay, that gives you a system that is VERY efficient and capable of concert levels of output AND gives you enough room in the budget to add that second sub...which would be ridiculous in that small room. Lol, you will FEEL it. You also have enough room in the budget to add a tactile transducer if you really want to shake your seat. If you aren't fond of the horn loaded sound, I can give you a lot of other options but of course you'll lose a little efficiency. I can post a FR chart for those speakers if you are worried about the quality. This the EQed in room response with a bit of a high end boost for old ears, lol https://imgur.com/pYT7D7M
I got you.
Here's your shopping list, mind you this is if you're doing a projector setup, which I would recommend:
Pioneer Elite AV Receiver: Pioneer VSX-LX303 9.2 Channel 4k UltraHD Network A/V Receiver Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CRMX1W1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_UMIwDbQM7B540
Klipsch RP-500 M bookshelf speakers (pair) x2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RG8FC92/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_mOIwDbKCJDPH5
Klipsch Wireless 10" subwoofer x2: Klipsch R-10SWi 10" Wireless Subwoofer - Brushed Black Vinyl https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQFIP9F/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_zPIwDb259BH0C
Klipsch R-52C center channel: Klipsch R-52C Powerful detailed Center Channel Home Speaker - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FK41FGL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_-PIwDbH0S8PWA
100 ft. Speaker cable, x2 just in case: AmazonBasics 14-Gauge Audio Stereo Speaker Wire Cable - 100 Feet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01D5H8YNO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_NQIwDb0N0EAFP
Banana plugs for your cable: Monoprice 24k Gold Plated Speaker Banana Plugs, Closed Screw Type (20 Pairs) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072J5TYDY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_uRIwDbMPRHTTQ
1080P projector: Optoma HD27e 3400 Lumens 1080p Home Theater Projector (Renewed) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NBSBH76/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_0RIwDbZB366SP
100" screen: Elite Screens Manual B, 100-INCH 16:9, Manual Pull Down Projector Screen 4K / 8K Ultra HDR 3D Ready with Slow Retract Mechanism, 2-YEAR WARRANTY, M100H https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008XGTXWE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_nSIwDbK0H9ENT
Mount if you need it/even can mount it: VIVO Universal Adjustable White Ceiling Projector | Projection Mount Extending Arms Mounting Bracket (MOUNT-VP01W) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01013QA86/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_JSIwDbS90NGNW
And lastly fiber optic cable for your projector: ATZEBE Fiber Optic HDMI Cable 50ft, 4K Optical HDMI Cable Supports 4K@60Hz, 4:4:4/4:2:2/4:2:0, HDR, Dolby Vision, HDCP2.2, ARC, 3D, High Speed 18Gbps, Slim and Flexible Active HDMI Cable https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KG7C25W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_aTIwDb44W24VG