Best wood chisels according to redditors
We found 172 Reddit comments discussing the best wood chisels. We ranked the 64 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
We found 172 Reddit comments discussing the best wood chisels. We ranked the 64 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
I would strongly suggest against most of those tools, especially that hand plane.
I'm sure the stone is fine but I can't vouch for it. I'd rather recommend wet sandpaper w/ rough to fine grits. And some compound for stropping. Initially, you can strop it on anything -- even cardboard.
That square is dumb as f and useless as f. Unless you're doing framing or construction. Yes, I bought one when I started out. I still kept it as an example of a stupid purchase. Get this instead or something similar. It won't be as accurate as a starrett, obviously, but more than enough for 99% of woodworking.
Coping saw...eh, buy whatever you want. They're decent and better ones cost significantly more.
Chisels....those chisels suck. They're made out of butter instead of steel. Get these instead.
As for hand plane, buy a No4 pre WWII stanley from ebay or you'll have to fork over some serious cash to get a lie nielsen or a veritas. Don't ever touch the new stanley shit.
So...sandpaper (buy them from wherever),
Stropping: $12ish
narex chisels $38 ish
empire square $11 ish
japanese handsaw $27 ish
Coping saw: $6 ish
About $94. Leaves you with a couple of bucks for sandpaper--maybe. Get em from home depot/lowes to get started. Be sure to finish off all cutting edge with stropping on the compound.
depends on what diy goals you have in mind. What I find myself using 80+% of the time when I am doing home diy stuff is some combo of the following.....
don't forget yard work
A lot of those above tools stay in a tool bag I carry around, along with stuff like a pencil, markers, drill bit kit, driver kit, zipties and a few other such items.
For basic tools and power tools for the weekend warrior..Harbor Freight is hard to beat.
For good deals on power tools and air tools that are a of better quality...bigskytools.com has great deals on refurbished dewalt, hitachi, bosch and millwaukee tools.
For your stated goals...I would go with a sander, a miter saw, a circular saw, carpenter square, speed square, a 48" level and a 12" level, and some other small tools I mentioned.
Heres a good miter saw. Will handle everything you will need
https://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-C10FCH2-15-Amp-10-inch-Compound/dp/B000NKB3LW
Bigsky runs frequent deals on nailer/compressor combos should you wind up doing lots of trim. And frequently they will have a good 15 amp circular saw for around $50.
Speed Square
https://www.amazon.com/Swanson-S0101-7-inch-Square-Layout/dp/B00002255O
Carpenter / Framing Square
https://www.amazon.com/Tools-Framing-Hi-Contrast-Aluminum-1794447/dp/B005XUHH5S
wood chisel set
https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-16-150-Short-3-Piece-Chisel/dp/B00002X1YO
Demo hammer - This hammer is HEAVY but it will chew through just about anything. If you are gonna be doing demo work I strongly suggest getting one...and a big wrecking/demo bar also
https://www.amazon.com/Jackson-Pulverizer-Concrete-Demolition-Hammer/dp/B002IKM6XO
Heres that 11-in-1 scewdriver. i use this thing 99% of the time I need a manual screwdriver. I bought more just put one in my autos and one at work.
https://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-Electric-Tool-48-22-2114-Screwdriver/dp/B006WTK436
I know I saved it for last...but don't forget safety gear. Glasses, face shield, gloves and if you are going to be doing dusty work or painting then get some breathing protection.
You are orders of magnitude better off with the 4 piece Narex set for the same money. Irwin cheapened up those marples. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GPC74ZQ/ref=psdc_553148_t1_B000RG2Y56
This is easy!!!
Stanley Bailey chisel set in a nice leather satchel, and a two sided whetstone .
If you decide to go the hand tool route, money and space are a lot less of a concern. Rather than throw out hypotheticals, I'll give you some examples of tools you can actually buy right now:
Panel saw. Yeah, 10 bucks. It's actually a nice saw too. The only issue is the teeth cannot be sharpened - but it's 10 bucks. Use this for breaking down big stock into smaller stock
Back Saw. Also 10 bucks. Same as above. Disposable but cheap and will last a long time (it's disposable because the teeth have been hardened). This is for precision cross cuts and cutting tenons.
Dovetail/fine joinery saw. 25 bucks plus a 3 dollar xx slim double taper saw file to make it not suck.
Now for some planes. These may seem kind of pricey for "broke" status, but these aren't POS-get-you-by planes. These are lifetime tools. To get something comparable new, you are looking at 150.00 to 300.00 a piece. You can get better deals by bidding on some planes, but these are all "buy it now"
Stanley #4. Needs some love but that's a good user for 30 bucks.
Stanley #5 for 42$
Stanley #7. 90 bucks.
Pick up a 4 dollar card scraper too.
Chisels
Narex $36. Use one of these and a block of wood to make yourself a router plane also.
Combination square 10 bucks.
A cordless drill of some sort and some bits (assuming you have one already)
70 bucks in 2x12's so you can make a knock down Nicholson style workbench which doesn't need vises. When you are done working, break it down and put it in the closet.
35 bucks for a pair of holdfasts from Gramercy
30 bucks worth of F style clamps from harbor freight will get you started there.
14 bucks to get sharp (not at all ideal but completely workable on a budget)
So for 410.00 or the price of a decent sander and miter saw, you can make literally anything in a small space with a small amount of localized dust. The trade off of course it time and labor.
Down the road you are definitely want to get some better saws, maybe some specialty planes, different chisels, some better measuring/marking equipment. But this will more than get you started.
Alright I'll bite. Hand tool shop
Narex Chisels 48.99
stanley Jack plane 59.99
stanley Smoother 45.00
Stanley low angle Block plane 31.25
HF combo square 6.99
HF Mallet 5.99
Stanley jointer 150
Sharpening stone (water) 33
Panel saw 1 (cross) 19.50
Panel saw 2 (rip) 16.99
Marking gage 20
Dovetail saw 26.82
Vise 26.46
marking knife 9
Total cost so far: 500.97
shipping from ebay depends on where you are but shouldn't be more than $60 so we factor that in:
560.97
build your own bench (not going to take the time to go into details but it shouldn't cost more than $500 for materials
so now you have
999.03 left to get whever else you want (more marking gages? switch some of the above for better stuff? spoke shave? cabinet scraper? router plane? brace and bit?)
You could get better prices for the ebay stuff above if you were patient that's just what's out there right now. the above is more than enough to do 90% of handtool projects though. Just watch those compound curves ;)
This guys list is pretty much what I was going to say.
So for some recommendations:
I've restored an antique 1930s No 5. Bought it for 45, and it is best for those on a budget. Any pre WWII Stanley just needs some light restoration work and a reworking of the blade and it will do 20x better than a harbor freight plane and roughly same as modern Stanley sweethearts at 1/3 the cost. It may not be as good as woodriver or lie Nielsen, but it's a 1/4 or 1/6 the cost respectively.
Paul sellers recommends Aldi Chisels, I got Narex instead for an additional $20. I love them, and will only upgrade out of them once I get enough money to go for some veritas or lie Nielsen. I got a set of 4 with imperial measurements for $60ish. I'd put any extra money into sharpening systems than upgrading them.
I bought David Barron dovetail guides and the Japanese pull saws he reccomends. Gyokucho 372 Razor Saw Dotsuki Takebiki Saw. Look at Amazon for the narex chisels I reccomend and the 'people who bought this also bought' section and you'll find it easily. While there you can find some leather for stropping and the green compound you need with it. Also while looking at these, you'll see a reccomendations for the Stanley disposable knife and the replacement blades. This is what Paul sellers recommends, and it works well. Stays ridiculously sharp, and can be rehoned with little effort and the blade cheaply replaced once it becomes to much work top get the thing sharp. Cutting layout lines is much more precise and helps prevent tearout. I bought narex marking knife and love it. I don't mind trying to hone it every so often. Ditto the scratch awl.
Basically took around the Amazon other bought recommendations and you'll find a bunch of fairly cheap quality things to get you up and running.
Maybe something like this?
https://www.amazon.com/Morakniv-Craftline-Carpentry-Chisel-3-0-Inch/dp/B00T3ES1SC/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496504611&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Morakniv+Mora+Pro+Series+Chisel+Knife+12250
Or maybe this:
https://www.amazon.com/Victorinox-One-Hand-Trekker-German-Multi-Tool/dp/B001B197RE/ref=pd_sim_468_21?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B001B197RE&pd_rd_r=NGM76YRDSPGV47SFSB5H&pd_rd_w=by7YG&pd_rd_wg=rxjyS&psc=1&refRID=NGM76YRDSPGV47SFSB5H
Here's a Mora that has a similar chisel dealio if you just want to try the geometry!
I milled up a bunch of black walnut on my own last week. I posted about it here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/woodworking/comments/5eok02/chainsaw_milling_black_walnut/
We used a $25 Timber Tuff TMW-56 - https://www.amazon.com/Timber-Tuff-TMW-56-Lumber-Cutting/dp/B01CNRL6TQ
Video of the action: https://youtu.be/TGOmm0lE1i8
Related images: http://imgur.com/a/whBlX
It was a ton of work.
I wouldn't bother with trying to get that Skil to fall in under $100. I much prefer the Bosch having used it in a production environment for 6 months or so. The Skil units were frequently returned when I worked there, they seem to have far too much play in the spindle and are generally of a lower quality.
Since you're looking at mostly power tools I wouldn't spend a lot on your hand tools. This chisel set is $55. I'm happy with it so far and I'm working entirely with hand tools at this point. A 4 piece set is a bit cheaper and would probably cover you pretty well.
You could throw a basic Stanley jack plane in there for another $50. I have used one very similar to this with acceptable results. I've gotten comparable results with one of these from HF for a whole $10, but it did take a bit of tuning work, especially on the blade.
All of that said, I have no problem asking for Lowe's gift cards for Christmas. Tools are a pretty personal choice and my family completely understands. It may not be the coolest gift under the tree, but you could get $100 closer to a better router.
theyre OK but not great. I still use one of the larger ones (2") since I haven't found a decent old one yet.
at 9-10 bucks each; you are better getting a set like these. https://www.amazon.com/Narex-Republic-Woodworking-Chisels-863010/dp/B00GPC74ZQ
I got mine by picking up 1-2 vintage ones at a time from ebay
Now you just need the chisel one
Instead of the short carving knife you could grind it into a shorter version of this
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T3ES1SC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Lg1nzbBD2B67N
I use mine constantly.
I don't recall exactly. Like I mentioned most of the 2x4's were leftover that were laying around I had to buy 4 or so to supplement what I had on hand. In addition to that I bought the following tools as I didn't have them before and I was just getting started;
) or so later which I have a lot leftover from
So roughtly;
The cost included a lot of startup costs for tools for me which will be long lasting. You could save quite a bit of money by buying used but in my local market planes are really hard to come by and hand saws are non-existent.
>How do you find wood to use?
If you're just starting out, I highly recommend visiting a lumberyard or Home Depot/Lowes, and getting your hands on some pre-cut lumber. I made my first dozen or so bows from 1x2x6 red oak boards from Home Depot. Hickory is another great option. The stuff is tough as nails, and extremely forgiving of mistakes. I'd also recommend a backing on your first couple bows, just to be safe. Titebond III and good linen cloth is bulletproof.
What's great about stuff from stores/lumberyards is that it's cheap and easy to come by. So when you break one* it's not like you're out a $60 Osage stave, or one that you spent months drying, shaping, and then tillering only for it to snap.
Plus they just make damn fine bows. I made one for a friend, 48# @ 28", that he used to take a mule deer a couple years back. Also, red oak looks absolutely gorgeous with a good stain.
If you really want to go down the rabbit hole and find some actual timber, do some searching to find out what good bow-woods are in your area, then find some you can take LEGALLY. Where I used to live in western WA, Vine Maple grew like a weed. One of my neighbors had a ton growing in their backyard, and agreed to let me take all I wanted in exchange for getting rid of the roots as well. Six bowstaves for an hour or two of work.
>However, I was wondering if I might receive some insight from the r/Bowyer community on what brands of tools stand the test of time/give the best results for the money in your toolkits?
If you're first starting out, and using pre-cut lumber, I can't recommend the Stanley Surform rasp enough. That, along with some sandpaper and rat-tail files for cutting string grooves, was all I used for my first six or seven bows.
Good scrapers are a life-saver, especially when you're tillering. Here's a set that I got some years ago: https://www.amazon.com/Crown-Hand-Tools-Rectangular-375/dp/B012M9H8UG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1483215420&sr=8-2&keywords=wood+scraper
They still work just as well as when they were brand new. I would recommend learning how to sharpen them properly first, though. One of the edges on mine is ruined because I didn't learn how to properly sharpen/turn the edge at the beginning.
Here's the only other things I can really think of:
*There's a saying in the bowyer community: If you aren't breaking bows, you aren't making bows. I messed up 4 staves before getting one that shot consistently and survived. So don't beat yourself up or get too frustrated when it happens. You'll learn from the mistakes and make even better bows that way!
Hope that helps! I'm by no means an experienced bowyer but if you have any questions I'll do my best to answer :)
for the money these cant be beat IMHO>http://www.amazon.com/Narex-Republic-Premium-Chisels-Hornbeam/dp/B00H6RD4PI/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1427396516&sr=1-2&keywords=Narex+4+pc+set
Huge fan.
I've done everything from split wood for firewood, to getting, skinning, and butchering an entire deer a deer using a $14 mora.
Recently I got one of these and use it on just about every project Morakniv Craftline Carpentry Chisel with Carbon Steel Blade, 3.0-Inch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T3ES1SC?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
You can make a huge variety of joints with just a few tools. This is close to what my toolset looked like when I cut my first dovetails.
Note: None of these are affiliate links. I don't get paid if you buy these.
$28 Dozuki "Z" saw
I prefer western style saws (like the Veritas saw /u/jbaird recommended), but you will be able to cut very nice joints with this:
https://www.amazon.com/Z-saw-07029-Dozuki-Z-Saw/dp/B001DSY7G6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1495827959&sr=8-2&keywords=japanese+saw+dovetail
$14 Empire combination square
https://www.amazon.com/Empire-Level-E280-Professional-Combination/dp/B000EU0ZB0/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1495828208&sr=8-4&keywords=combination+square
$10 pocket knife for laying down lines:
https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-10-049-Pocket-Knife-Rotating/dp/B00002X201/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1495828775&sr=8-2&keywords=stanley+knife
$24 marking gauge:
https://www.amazon.com/Crown-152M-Miniature-Rosewood-Mortice/dp/B001V9KOSM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495828829&sr=8-1&keywords=rosewood+gauge
$35 chisel:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004SG70L4/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
You could also get:
$49 DMT coarse sharpening stone. Only sharpening stone you need. Get a strop eventually.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001WP1L0/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
$5 Stanley Coping saw. Will help you remove dovetail waste.
https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-15-106-8-Inch-Length-4-Inch/dp/B00009OYG2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495829310&sr=8-1&keywords=coping+saw
Provided you're gonna buy lumber that's already prepped, you should be good to go with the above. I'd suggest building things rather than 'practicing joinery'. You'll get plenty of joinery practice along the way :)
I bought this set of Narex chisels off amazon when I first started getting into wood working and they have been great for a couple of years now. They sharpen up really well and they are perfectly strong. I would definitely recommend to beginners even if they are in the pricier end of beginners sets.
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I got a set of narex mortise chisels for Christmas. Love them! Big difference between drilling and squaring with bench chisels. Get some of these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TU1PL54/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_mJl3wb5FM5A1T
My father in law gave me a set of Narex for Christmas last year. They have been a great set of starter chisels for me. This is the set I have:
Narex (Made in Czech Republic) 4 pc set 6mm (1/4"), 12 (1/2"), 20 (3/4") , 26 (1 1/16") mm Woodworking Chisels 863010 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GPC74ZQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_lbgwCbF0AGCB0
While I don't own these, Narex chisels get a lot of good press in this sub.
I was able to find a large set of Sorby chisels (18 of them I think it was, including a 2") on Craigslist for $100, so looking carefully online might be another option to find some good chisels for a bargain, but as always, buyer beware. :)
As /u/jakkarth points out, you'll need to tune and sharpen any chisel you get your hands on, and Paul Sellers videos are very informative and approachable.
Good luck!
9" Shinto Saw Rasp https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004DIHDU0/
Beadlock http://www.rockler.com/3-8-beadlock-basic-starter-kit
Dovetail square http://www.sterlingtoolworks.com/store/#!/Dovetail-Square-Blade/c/13579459/offset=0&sort=normal
Veritas Marking Knife http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/Page.aspx?p=69870
Gramercy Holdfast https://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/store/item/MS-HOLDFAST.XX/Holdfasts_by_Gramercy_Tools
Card Scraper http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/bahco474cardscraper.aspx
Mortise marking gauge http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=67466&cat=1,42936
Moisture meter http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,43513,45788&p=71986
Flush cut saw http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,42884,50663&p=50663
Birdcage Awl https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IXVQMPU
Timber Tuff TMW-56. Works well for $25. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CNRL6TQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_g6vIzbWDSFX6P
There's a Wood River 4-piece set that is like $60 (http://www.woodcraft.com/product/152169/woodriver-4-piece-butt-chisel-set.aspx) that regularly goes on sale at woodcraft for like $25 or $30, it's a great beginner set.
The cheapy Aldi chisels Paul Sellers loves (https://paulsellers.com/2015/06/aldi-chisels-in-usa-stores/) are also pretty decent, but in the US Aldi only seems to have stores in the east coast area.
Then there's Narex, the quality os comparable to Wood River, and they're on Amazon. The downside is finding a set for sub-$40, the 4-piece set is regularly around $50: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H6RD4PI/
Hard to beat Narex for the price.
Good set with the basics
A little nicer set
Planes are harder on a budget, the cheapest that is pretty likely to be good out of the box is the bench dog, but I'd try to find a stanley #5 to restore first.
For fine woodworking hand saws, pretty hard to beat a japanese ryoba and dozuki on a budget.
See this comment for a budget sharpening setup for the chisels and plane irons.
The woodriver planes are 20% off for a few weeks at Woodcraft. Not as expensive at Veritas and less work than vintage.
I bought a narex marking knife off amazon and it works fine. This one is flat on one side which you want in a marking knife.
I just started getting into woodworking and bought this set which is a cheaper version of #1 :
https://www.amazon.com/Narex-Republic-Woodworking-Chisels-863010/dp/B00GPC74ZQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485379559&sr=8-1&keywords=aldi+chisels
I then sharpened them following Paul Sellers video using sandpaper and I'm very happy. I contemplated getting #1 instead of these for a while but went the cheaper route so I could turn that $15 into other tools.
Once they were sharp it made quick work of some pine I had. Will be trying on some hardwoods tonight, so hopefully I'm still happy.
Morakniv Craftline Carpentry Chisel with Carbon Steel Blade, 3.0-Inch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T3ES1SC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_pCVJAbEC9P0P7
As for tools: I was thinking a cheap chisel set off amazon (poor-isn college student, so recommendations on this would be nice). I was also looking into a router plane in order to make a flat, recessed surface for the tiles.
Japanese pull saw
https://www.amazon.com/Gyokucho-372-Razor-Dotsuki-Takebiki/dp/B006JW19U8
Combination square
https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-Tools-46-222-Combination-Square/dp/B002YCHF2I/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1511492947&sr=8-4&keywords=adjustable+combination+square
tape measure
https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-33-279-English-Tape-Inch/dp/B002V0M8D4/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1511492992&sr=8-6&keywords=tape+measure
24" level
https://www.amazon.com/Tools-Magnetic-I-beam-24-Inch-1801091/dp/B005XUHFI2/ref=sr_1_5?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1511493020&sr=1-5&keywords=24%22+level
clamps(quick and pipe) Irwin, harbor freight, etc
marking knife
https://www.amazon.com/Narex-Striking-Marking-Hardened-822301/dp/B01N4HZERP/ref=sr_1_7?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1511493110&sr=1-7&keywords=marking+knife
I really like my Erwin Marples set. IRWIN Marples Woodworking Chisel Set, 6 Piece, M444SB6N https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000RG2Y56/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_eUeeAbXWX74SE
Or something in between perhaps https://www.amazon.com/Narex-Republic-Woodworking-Chisels-863010/dp/B00GPC74ZQ
These are some good chisels not only to start with but to use until you really want to make the move up. You'll probably have to do some work to get them flat but it won't be that bad. Flatten the back and hone to a 30-degree micro bevel and you're ready to rock and roll.
For the money, you can't beat the Veritas dovetail saw. I'd suggest the 14tpi. I have that and the LN and they're both really good but the Veritas is a lot cheaper.
Good luck!
The problem with vintage is they are not commonly in good condition, or at a good price and are rarely both. You need help now. I like my two woodriver planes and think it's a great option. I have had the Stanley one there and it's not good. Also the z saw and the gyo are essentially the same thing.
Here are some things I think are better values or super useful.
https://www.amazon.com/Narex-Republic-Woodworking-Chisels-863010/dp/B00GPC74ZQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491542519&sr=8-1&keywords=narex+chisels
https://www.amazon.com/Japanese-Shop-Hammer-13-Oz/dp/B0037MHXVW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491542635&sr=8-1&keywords=japanese+chisel+hammer
https://www.amazon.com/DMT-D3EFC-Dia-Sharp-Extra-Fine-Diamond/dp/B00006IIO3/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1491542814&sr=8-11&keywords=dmt+diasharp
https://www.amazon.com/iGaging-34-707-Wheel-Marking-Gauge/dp/B00B3ZS2J2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1491542992&sr=8-2&keywords=marking+gauge
I know this pain, and the solution I came up with is a flat chisel, as wide as possible (such as this). With it's wide, sharp edge it's somewhat easy to keep it flat against the buildplate, and sharp enough to get under to lift a corner. Once a small gap has been made, I use flat spatula to do the rest.
I find this works really well for me, where a knife or other sharp implements easily scratches the surface, and the spatula isn't sharp enough to get under in the first place.
Chisel
here’s another one
By hand tools do you mean chisels, planes and saws or power hand tools like a random orbit sander..
I would think a good set of chisels should be on the list even if you want to mostly use power tools
A good idea is to find a project and then get the tools to build that project, with a table saw and jigsaw you can make most any straight or curved cuts but you'll need boards that are flat and square (getting a planer, buying pre-dimensioned stock)
Narex offers tons of value. They are quality products and affordable. Narex Chisels
Here is a chisel sharpening video for your reference.
Here is a chisel sharpening prep video for your reference.
You most likely know this but it can't hurt to have a refresher.
I can't comment on the ones in your pic, but I bought the ones above it (you can just barely see the bottom of them) and it was not worth the $10 or whatever I spent. They are softer metal and now essentially garbage for me. I next bought the Stanley Sweetheart 4 piece set for $75 and they are outstanding. (If that's too much for you FWW says these are really good for like $40.) So like I said, can't comment on these but in general, with tools, you pay for what you get. I'd rather spend $75 on something that will last my lifetime than $1 on something that will cost me time to replace, will fail when I need it, doesn't do the job quite as well.
Narex chisels are the best bang for the buck if you ask me. https://www.amazon.com/Narex-Republic-Woodworking-Chisels-863010/dp/B00GPC74ZQ. This is a nice starter set. As others have said, keep them sharp and they will last you a long, long time.
https://www.amazon.com/IRWIN-Tools-Double-Edge-9-5-Inch-213103/dp/B0001GLEZ8
https://www.amazon.com/Z-saw-Dozuki-Z-Saw/dp/B001DSY7G6/ref=pd_sbs_469_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B001DSY7G6&pd_rd_r=RBVEGF6TKKCZHVCH7WSH&pd_rd_w=16INj&pd_rd_wg=gFI50&psc=1&refRID=RBVEGF6TKKCZHVCH7WSH
https://www.amazon.com/Narex-Republic-Woodworking-Chisels-863010/dp/B00GPC74ZQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1499302108&sr=1-1&keywords=narex+chisels
https://www.amazon.com/Crown-135-Marking-Gauge-Beech/dp/B00EC9AOZQ/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_469_lp_t_4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=ZBYMV8TF850C6M5JDGDG
Other than clamps, glue, mortice gauge, etc, this is good enough to get you started making carcass (dovetailed) pieces of furniture, like a shoe cubby or bookshelf. (Currently making a chimney bookshelf for myself)
Thats around $200 for getting you started. Add a mortise chisel and mortise gauge and you can start mortise and tenon work. Invest in pipe clamps when you reach a glue up point.
Honestly, I'm flattered.
But there's a couple things that scream to me "first try." First, see those black smudges? I bought this set of gouges from amazon recently, and they came with grease on them (I assume for anti-oxidation purposes), and I just dove right in before wiping it off. Now it's stained the project.
Also, I might add—to my compounding shame—that I did NOT pick pine as the wood for this first project as I suggest in another response, but instead just used the sample wood that came with said beginners gouge set from amazon. For all I know, it isn't pine. I mean, I think it's pine, but like I said, I'm new at this....
Technically, the crappy celtic knot was my first gouging, but then I decided to put a face above it. It's not like it takes a couple minutes. It was kinda a long process for me, and consequently you learn a lot relatively quickly—like how to slow down so you don't get all those ugly nicks running up and down the frame (as well as her mouth).
But for my sake, I'll take your incredulity as a compliment!!
Pues todo me dura la semana, lo de rebanar y picar es un ritual que hago los domingos y me toma como 30 minutos en total, y si se me echa a perder una zanahoria no big deal, estan super baratas
Para el coco tengo un cinsel para trabajar madera, sale devolada en menos de 5 minutos y no se hace tanto pedo, y lo corto en cuadritos, no me gusta el coco rallado de las reposterias pero supongo que puede funcionar, aguas con el azucar que le ponen si tu intencion es tambien bajar de peso.
That's enough $$ for three Narex chisels, two Stanley 750s, or one from Ashley Isles.
These are all good options. Personally, I'd lean a little bit towards the Narex models for a beginner because you can get a few more, and they make better beater chisels than the Stanleys if you decide to upgrade down the road. The Ashley Isles are truly lifetime tools. Some would argue that the other two don't live up to that designation.
If I had to choose three sizes, they'd be 1/4", 3/4", and 1 1/4". After that, an intermediate size like 1/2" or 3/8".
For tools I'd recommend you get some semi decent chisels (more is better, but get a few sizes, this is an ok set) and learn how to sharpen them (get a wet stone). A combination square is really freakin handy, and a dovetail saw. If you have the money get a japanese crosscut and rip saw. There's soooooo many tools that you "need", generally just buy tools as you find you need them, and slowly you'll turn into one of us and have a bunch of stuff laying around.
Making yourself a wooden mallet is a great project, but for starters just practice joints. After you get a couple lap joints and dovetails under your belt, try making simple boxes and frames (oh yeah, get some clamps and wood glue).
Watch some Frank Klausz for inspiration. Best of luck!
These are Stanley Baileys. They're my first set of real chisels. They come sharp enough to use (at least for me) and come in a beautiful leather tool roll.
Stanley 16-401 Bailey Chisel Set, 5-Piece https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003HGH3W2/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awd_XPbJwb305X3EY
I just ordered these after some of the reviews for them being a good chisel for the money.
http://www.amazon.com/Narex-Republic-Premium-Chisels-Hornbeam/dp/B00H6RD4PI/ref=pd_cp_hi_0
You could also go with these for a little less.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GPC74ZQ/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2YB4RTPHDX5A5&coliid=I1T0JYFCYL2C55
I think the one Sellers mentions cost like $15 US for a 4 pack which is a a bit crazy. I saw the pack you linked and started drooling. I love the look, and that it comes with leather carrying case. I don't have a problem paying $70 for quality, however I would be more comfortable if I understood why they cost $40 more than something like this pack http://www.amazon.com/Narex-Republic-Woodworking-Chisels-863010/dp/B00GPC74ZQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1426702020&sr=1-1&keywords=aldi+chisels
Basically am I getting a nicer tool, or just a nicer look and brand name?
^This. I find Paul Sellers to be an amazing resource on how to do woodworking both incredibly well, and very cheaply. I wish that I had found his videos earlier, I could have saved quite a bit of money.
Figure out what level of woodworking you want to do. For really fine furniture / cabinetry / joinery, you will need to spend a fortune on machines to accurately process wood to this level. With just a few hand tools, you can produce the same quality or higher, it just takes more time and skill.
I personally have gone the hand tool route, and would highly recommend it. My first project has been a Roubo style workbench, which has been an amazing journey for me, because I have had to figure out how to sharpen, set up, and use my planes, chisels, etc. Even without the bench, I am still able to use my tools to do all sorts of woodworking projects - it's just a bit more time consuming to always be jury rigging my clamping to make plane stops, etc.
Try watching some videos, to see what can be made easily with a small number of tools. For example, a Joiner's Mallet, or a Wallclock. I started with just some cheap chisels, a piece of glass, and some sandpaper (80, 220, 500, 1000, 1500, 2000 grit) and practiced chisel sharpening until I could get a really fine edge. Then I was ready to buy a cheap mallet and saw and start practicing dovetails](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCYjoj6cfno). This is something you could do all day long, in pine or oak trim board, in a small space. If you decide this is something that you really like, then look at buying more tools to be able to take on new projects! Another great, simple project might be to carve spoons, either with a gouge and spokeshave or an axe and knife.
It really depends on the type of work you're doing, if you're lucky enough to work with nicer materials and don't have to worry about materials that may or may not have nails and staples in it then putting some money down on a harder chisel is a fine idea, otherwise keep to the cheaper softer chisels since they're much easier to resharpen on the job. I enjoy using my Narex chisels https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00H6RD4PI/ref=psdcmw_553148_t2_B00GPC74ZQ relatively cheap and they stay sharp. All chisels are going to need honing, unless you put down some serious money, and no matter what chisels you buy, honing and sharpening is part of it as they're used.
Would these tools at amazon be comparable to the ones you listed?
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B008349HCC
They look really similar - just not sure if quality be same. I was looking at some netsuke carving - these looks amazing and they do require harder wood. Recently i tried carving crow from monument valley out of hard ebony wood and i damaged my felxcut knife.
These narex chisels are a good option.
What's your budget look like? I ordered this 5 pack off Amazon for $70 and I couldn't be happier with them.
> Marples blue handle
What about something like
https://www.amazon.com/IRWIN-Marples-Woodworking-Chisel-M444SB6N/dp/B000RG2Y56/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1483322628&sr=1-1&keywords=Marples%2Bblue%2Bhandle&th=1
I could even use the wooden case, as I don't have a place to put them, and I wouldn't want them loose.
EDIT: Actually, the first review said it's Chinese crap again...
I use a chisel with the flat side up and use it like a prybar. Works great.
I have not tried them but check this.
You have one? They're really tough? They seem pretty interesting. I've been meaning to get more Mora/Bahco's. I have a companion HD that I truly love. The little craft knives and chisel knives really ring my bell too! Sorta really want one: https://www.amazon.com/Bahco-BAH2448-Chisel-Knife-case/dp/B003ASVQP2/ref=pd_sbs_200_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=D05XDY5WK9849265GVFP
Thanks for the condescending reply but you are wrong --> https://www.amazon.com/Bahco-BAH2448-Chisel-Knife-case/dp/B003ASVQP2
Yeah, to be honest I was thinking in terms of regular wood chisels, and not "wrecking knives" like OP's -I've never used one of those. But I guess if you don't mind fucking them up you can hit them with whatever you like (just like with anything else!).
I got this set (though, I got mine from Lowes - most hardware stores should have them. Heck, even Walmart probably has 'em). They're not great, but they're really impressive for the price. If you use them a lot, you'll probably want better chisels (i.e. the Narex ones everybody has mentioned. Those have been on my shopping list for a while now).
Also make sure you get something to sharpen them with. Chromium oxide paste/bar and a strop is also really helpful for quick touchups (My strop is a scrap of denim glued to a scrap of wood - doesn't have to be fancy). This isn't necessary to start, but it's inexpensive and something to keep in mind.
I will say that he's going to be limited with that workspace, but he can get by with some basic stuff. I also have extremely limited space. I have an outdoor shop space, but since it's not insulated and has no power, I'm very limited in what I can do.
However, here's a good list of things to get.
Keep in mind that father's day is coming up soon, and tools like these are popular things to be put on sale. Keep your eyes open :)
I was recently given the cheaper set of Narex chisels, and I like them. The blades were in pretty good shape out of the box. They needed minimal flattening and removal of machining. They had a heavy coat of lacquer that came off easily with some paint remover and steel wool. The edge was fairly well honed; I took it a bit farther. They're longer than chisels that I've had in the past, so I'm still getting used to the different balance. They hold an edge well. For fine dovetail work, the lands are a bit big, but you could grind them down if you want to (and are careful not to lose the temper). Overall a great value. If you're going to be doing a lot of fine detail work, the premium chisels look pretty good for a reasonable price, but I've never used them.
I also have this set of Stanley chisels which aren't bad. They don't seem to hold an edge quite as long as the Narex, but I haven't tried any real comparison. The lands are larger than the Narex, so fine work would be more problematic, but they're only $15 for the set. A good value, but I like the Narex better.
Before this goes to archive, and with the caveat that I've never used it, nor even thought of wanting a "sharpened prybar" while camping, nor was entirely sure of what you were originally asking for when you posted this, I will suggest:
https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-FMHT16145-FatMax-Folding-Pocket/dp/B00NOVP8KY/
I've had generally good results with Stanley tools. It's currently at $15 on amazon and got generally favorable reviews on youtube. It's advertised as being something you can hammer on directly with a metal hammer.
I may just pick it up for a trial.
Woodworking tools can be as sharp as a half decent knife. https://www.amazon.com/Morakniv-Craftline-Carpentry-Chisel-3-0-Inch/dp/B07S2KVV97
I'm looking to get into woodworking and just when I thought I had my starter tools picked out I got distracted! I have been looking at the Japanese style tools and I am mainly curious about if it would be possible to find a set of three or four general purpose ones for a price that is not so intimidating of an entry fee compared to all the premium handmade ones. I was planning on getting this 4 piece Narex set ..... I wouldn't want to go over $100 for a set and would be much more comfortable around $50 similar to the Narex ones. Since it is just my curiosity getting the better of me I would also be okay with getting a single Japanese chisel in a commonly used size with the intention of experimenting with the style.
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I would also appreciate some small beginner project ideas! Don't have a ton of room for random chairs and all that nonsense to lay around so something small that helps me practice. I am interested in connecting wood with joins and dowels and using as few nails as possible.
Well, if you want to go cheap cheap, I have one of these and it works "ok". But hell, for the price of a cheap bottle of liquor, you can start milling.
what do you guys think about Stanley Bailey 5 piece set for $65, plus Stanley is doing $10 off when you spend $50 (use STANLEY at checkout) link
I currently have three chisels (1", 1/2", and 3/8") that I have been trying to restore but are still in rough shape and weren't great chisels to begin with
Something like this in conjunction with finer tools (dental wax-carving kits are a good option) would be a good place to start, depending on the material you would like to work with!
Mora has one;)
https://www.amazon.com/Morakniv-Craftline-Carpentry-Chisel-3-0-Inch/dp/B00T3ES1SC
I second u/mashley503...Flexcut is a great option that's not super expensive. I bought this set initially but I find I mostly use the u and v gouges, so now I just buy individual tools I want. The microtools are great for fine detail.
This is the first set of upgraded carving tools I bought. You can buy the set or individual tools separately. I like the quality of the edge--they sharpen up easily enough, too, and I still have them years later. I just don't love the handles. You definitely will need to cut them down so they fit your hand, but even then, they weren't really for me. The more expensive tools from McClains are awesome, but they range from $30-$100 per individual tool, so not a great intro option.
Edited to add, because I can't believe I forgot...Flexcut's sharpening tool is a MUST have. .
I feel it important to mention that, while the set you suggested is definitely high quality, it is meant for different materials and uses than the kind of knives OP originally bought.
If OP is learning a particular style or wants that particular kind of tool, There are lots of other good potential sets they can buy:
Example Beginner's Set
Example Intermediate Set
I got started with something very similar to the beginner's set, and my teacher thought those were fine to carve in yew and see if I liked it as a hobby.
Hopefully this works.
https://www.amazon.com/Irwin-Tools-Marples-Woodworking-M444SB6N/dp/B000RG2Y56/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1542902328&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=marples+chisel+set&dpPl=1&dpID=51gaBP8OZgL&ref=plSrch
Depends on your budget. Narex is a good brand and there are several different kits available. Here is one such kit: https://www.amazon.com/Narex-Starter-Carving-Chisels-869200/dp/B00VAOX8Y0/
If plastic is sticking to your bed that badly you probably have the nozzle too close. I've got over 400 hours on my stock bed and it looks almost new.
I use a Stanley 1" folding chisel to remove my prints. It is razer sharp so you have to be careful not to cut yourself. It works good to remove brims from prints as well. https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-FMHT16145-FatMax-Folding-Pocket/dp/B00NOVP8KY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1550507124&sr=8-1&keywords=stanley+folding+chisel
As far as cleaning goes, I use Isopropyl Alcohol to clean my bed, usually every few prints, or if I'm printing something with fine details on the first layer. I actually just use some eyeglass cleaning wipes from Target, because that's what I had available and they work pretty well. You can get a box of 60 for $3.99, so that's like a 7 cent cost to clean the bed.
Same one on Amazon for $70: http://www.amazon.com/Stanley-16-401-Bailey-Chisel-5-Piece/dp/B003HGH3W2
I just started as well using only hand tools. Hopefully this helps in some way. Don't hate me if it doesn't.
So far here is what I've collected:
Note - I have no idea if that knife sharpener is correct to use with the chisels and plane. I'm only using the fine stone and it seems to work, but I have no idea what I'm doing in that department.
This seems to cover the basics for me. I'm about halfway through a desk project and struggling, but I think that's user error more than the tools. More clamps and a better workspace would work wonders.
It's small, but I've heard a lot of good things about the Mora chisel knife just from a convenience perspective. If he is always working in a shop this is less useful, but still has it's place.
Otherwise, a good sharpening system would be a nice addition to any shop to maintain an edge on chisels, planes, etc. I don't personally have a recommendation here, as I'm still looking for one.
Great thanks. So I'll probably pull the trigger on the Veritas Carcass saw....
For the Narex chisels, I am assuming these will work.
However, also read that Lee Valley is a good place to grab them....and they are $62 for a set of 4. :D
Thanks for the advice
not a solution to your problem but buy a cabinet scraper. you can take down high spots cleanly and easily and without screwing up the parts like sandpaper can.
https://youtu.be/UPaurVTtTfk?t=3m28s
https://www.amazon.com/Crown-Hand-Tools-Rectangular-375/dp/B012M9H8UG/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1480706339&sr=1-2&keywords=cabinet+scraper
Here you go.
Hey man, looks way better than anything I could build at 15. But since you're asking for some constructive criticism, I'll give a few suggestions.
The one thing I really don't like is the screws on the bottom legs. There are lots of different ways to do this, with varying levels of difficulty.
First would be just counter sinking the screw then filling the hole with wooden buttons. You can pick up a usable set of counter sink bits at harbor freight for $7
Second might be pocket holes. You can get a jig for ~40 bucks. Honestly, this might not be the best option for you. For the price, you could get a lot of other more useful tools.
Third might be a [mortise and tenon joint] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBodzmUGtdw&t=3s). You can make these by hand with a decent hand saw and some chisels, and square. But it its very hard to do without a vise, which is pricey. Also takes a bit more effort and skill. You can also make them with power tools.
You could have made the cutouts for the seat slats a little cleaner. If you get a combo square and chisels. You don't need fancy chisels. These are decent starter chisels if you learn [how to sharpen] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki8tt-VjwqI).
These are about the same price and should do everything you need for the most part. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GPC74ZQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_VOemybFFCNFPY
Let me start by saying that this would be the bare minimum. This is assuming that you have all the experience to use these tools effectively as someone who has the appropriate skill and knows to do things like not bear down on a saw when cutting, keeping everything square, how to mill boards by hand, how to not kill sandpaper in a few strokes, how to tune and sharpen a hand plane, ETC.
2x$8.69Vise grips Two vise grip clamps. Clamps can be universally adjusted and clamped in almost any direction with some quick thinking. One is never enough.
$9.99Cheap set of chisels Everyone needs a chisel. These will be made from a milder steel, but it's better than nothing.
$22.00Generic ryoba saw A ryoba saw will double for crosscuts and ripcuts. They go as far as you can take them provided you treat them right.
$18.62Bench Plane You need to be able to take down material in terms of thickness. A simple bench plane will due for now.
$20.61Block Plane A block plane will help slightly with end grain smoothing where the bench plane cannot.
$3.47Bundled Sandpaper You need to finish your products somehow. I would get a generic bundle of sandpaper and use it sparingly and tenderly.
$12.85Square Keeping things square is vital.
$6.79Mallet Hammering your chisels is going to be very important since you cannot use a 2x4 reliably.
$3.47Wood Glue Need to be able to glue things together.
$11.80A set of card scrapers Remove material smoother and faster. You don't want to waste sandpaper if you don't have to, and these are quite versatile.
$8.06A bastard file A bastard file will do for now when it comes to heavier shaping and sharpening your card scrapers.
$15.92A small drill viseKeeping something secure in place is very important. A small vise will accommodate small and narrow pieces of lumber and can be bolted to a bench.
$3.97Assorted finer sandpapers You need something to keep your chisels constantly sharp, especially when it is such a mild steel as a set of 9.99 chisels.
$15.59Wipe on polyurethane You need to be able to finish your products somehow.
Comes to $170.52 I would use the rest to make a bench and two sawhorses out of some 2x4's.
Okay I'm going to give it another shot this weekend with the 3/4" stock I have. I have these narex chisels. Should these work?
Ha ha yeah mdf and oil/moisture don't really mix but the boxes look nice!
I just bought a set of Narex chisels and as far as I understand, I'll need to sharpen them before use (I'm completely new to woodworking, sorry!).
I realize I could probably piece together a much cheaper version from a hardware store, but if this set is great to use out of the box, I'd rather spend the extra few bucks for a perfect surface and a guide as well.
I got the Irwin set off amazon here and they're $12 cheaper today than when I got them. They came pretty sharp out of the box but after sharpening I was extremily impressed. They've held their edge pretty well and the length is pretty excellent for chopping deep mortises. If you are a bit tight and can't stomach an $80 set of 4 chisels this is a great option. The handles may not last ten years of heavy use but they're designed so you can replace the handles with wood ones which you can make on your own which is handy.
I just want to say how awesome your contest is and thank you for holding it. :)
I'm an interesting and beautiful person, but only because I just got all the supplies I need to finally get back into wood working. NOW, I just need some inspiration to get me motivated again.
Also, because a wood worker can always use more of these or even something like this, both of which I have not had the money/couldn't justify buying for myself just yet.
My other hobbies include voiceover type stuff which you can hear some of my recordings here and I am also a gamer, so you can find me on Steam if you are a gamer as well and are looking for someone to game with... Just nothing to graphic intensive because my computer can not handle some of that stuff unless I get a better graphics card like this one... Either way though, hit me up, listen to my recordings if you want and hell, leave me a request for a recording or give me inspiration to make something with the wood and tools I have! lol!
Hope you have a fantastic day and best of luck to all the other people entering this contest! :D
It's these. I've been dying to play around with them but my "bench" doesn't like it when I hammer on it.
Came here to mention these Stanley chisels I got on Amazon, which I've been surprisingly happy with.
Are these acceptable Narex chisels or not?
Interesting read on the chisel. I was actually looking at these http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RG2Y56?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_2&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
but they are plastic handle and made in China.. which Im not too excited about. Maybe it makes sense for me to just invest in a nice Stanley 750 1/2 inch vintage chisel on Ebay in really good condition and start with that?
This knife:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T3ES1SC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Cheap, great at getting underneath a print and breaking it off the bed, also good at cutting off small defects on prints. It's not so sharp that you're going to harm yourself easily either.
Also consider getting some duPont connectors and a crimper, as well as a decent soldering iron(TS100 is awesome!) and wire cutter/strippers. Needle nose pliers, short pliers, snippers, angled cutters.
There are a lot of different types of chisels out there. If your set on chisels, I would recommend the chisel set .
A more universal present would be a mallet. This one from Blue Spruce is the epitome of quality craftsmanship. It’s too impractical for most to buy themselves, but as a gift it would be treasured for a lifetime.
https://bluesprucetoolworks.com/products/round-mallet
Great info, I appreciate it greatly! I've seen a few of Paul Sellers' videos on sharpening, so I'm not sure why they're called "scary sharpening", but it does look like it takes quite a bit of time, but I've got plenty of that while my wife and children are out of the country visiting relatives. I don't have an Aldi nearby, and they don't seem to sell from their web site, so I think I may be out of luck on those famous chisels. Every time I try to search for them online, I end up with links like this to Amazon, even when just looking for singles.
If you're willing to go up to $39, how about some chisels?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GPC74ZQ/