Reddit reviews Hosa YPP-117 1/4" TRS to Dual 1/4" TSF Stereo Breakout Cable

I think I'm about to make your day.


The El Cap CAN be "converted" to a stereo input: I use mine that way on my board. All you have to do is buy this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000068O54/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And then, before you connect it, open the pedal and change one jumper like it shows here:

http://www.strymon.net/faq/enable-trs-stereo-input-deco/

Done. Now you can just take the stereo outs of your 720 to your two amps.

One thing to note though: I have 3 Strymon pedals run this way (deco, flint and el cap) and for 2 out of the 3, the Hosa cable I got was fine on one input, but the other would NOT let me plug in my lava cable tightrope cable. Probably won't be an issue for you, but it was a giant issue for me.

Anyhow, I hope this helps you.

If you're okay with the additional toms being single-zone, I know my Yamaha DTX-500 (I think) supports using splitters to double the tom ports.

In other words, I have six toms hooked up, two to each tom port. They currently trigger the same MIDI notes, but only because I haven't really figured out what I'm going to do with them. Note that's done with dual mono -> stereo cables.

I'm also duplicating my crash (just convenient to have one on the left and right) and the double bass pedals, FWIW. Those are done with dual stereo -> stereo cables. Each side has the same zones, but who cares?

So, anyway, I have a decent number of triggers on the head unit I started with. Only complaint is that I had to upgrade my rack, which is now some Frankenstein-ish thing.

If you're going to DIY it like I suggest, just watch out for mislabelled cables. I see it a lot. The "insert" cable which is the one coming out of the A4 needs to be tip/ring. Ignore the terminology and as long as the 2 ends are different colours, you'll be fine.
This:
http://www.amazon.ca/Hosa-YPP117-inch-Dual-Cable/dp/B000068O54/ref=sr_1_38?ie=UTF8&qid=1452817817&sr=8-38&keywords=Y+cables
Not this:
http://www.amazon.ca/Hosa-YPP118-Dual-Female-Cable/dp/B000068O56/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1452817771&sr=8-2&keywords=Y+cables

The second cable simply duplicates the input to both outputs.
After that, simply use mono cables to get into the MS-20.

It's called a Y cable, or a TRS cable (tip ring sleeve). Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Hosa-YPP-117-Stereo-Breakout-Cable/dp/B000068O54/ref=pd_sim_267_4?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B000068O54&pd_rd_r=71fcbdee-f204-11e8-ac6d-e5cddbbd9c33&pd_rd_w=PWP0P&pd_rd_wg=Oys25&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=18bb0b78-4200-49b9-ac91-f141d61a1780&pf_rd_r=R4F6BF2FBW4ECJ0WGC2J&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=R4F6BF2FBW4ECJ0WGC2J

You’ll need a 1/4-inch breakout cable like one of these, these, and these. Figure out which ones work best for your setup and fill both holes on both sides. Red is right. Black is left.

You could try something like a 1/4" breakout cable and run your output to an amp or powered speaker. You'd also want a couple of these.

these are cheaper than the splitters you will find on drumsplitters.com and work fine with TD-6v https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B000068O54/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

don't buy more than 2 since you can only split 2 inputs.

Basically you want to split your effect at the delay, add tremolo to the wet signal. After that you want to add the wet signal back to the dry and run them into your amp, right?
 
That is essentially running a parallel fx loop. You will need something like this to plug the wet and dry signals back into before continuing the chain into your amp.
 
This is assuming that you don't want your dry signal to also be effected by the tremolo, otherwise just put the tremolo after the delay to effect both the dry and wet signals.

I see what you're talking about. I'm not so concerned about noise as I am about doing this in a weird/hacky roundabout way.

Why stereo? I get that it's nice, but you're going to double the number of buses used per channel, which seems pretty wasteful.
Or to put it another way, it makes more sense to have 16 completely separate monitor channels than it does to have 8 stereo channels and probably end up sharing them. The logic being, if you're running a large enough event to require 8 monitors, you'll probably eventually need more monitors or buses. It can be a major pain to re-route everything to make it work.


If you do somehow have 16 buses to spare, run them all into passive DI boxes via a gender changer adapter or cable (https://btpa.com/MIC3-XX.html for custom length female to female xlr) and use a TS 1/4in to 1/4 TRS (aka insert cable) to get your individual mixes. This usually works for passive DI boxes, almost never works with active boxes. You'll be buying 16 DI boxes (and probably a couple spares), 16 female to female XLR cables (and probably a couple spares) and 8 insert cables (aka 1/4in unbal to TRS, probably at least 1 spare).

Or, the other route is to use the Shure a85f in-line inpedance matcher (or similar) to get your XLR channels to 1/4in TS https://www.amazon.com/Shure-A85F-Transformer-Female-4-Inch/dp/B0006NMUHW, then use a Y adapter to get to TRS https://www.amazon.com/Hosa-YPP-117-Stereo-Breakout-Cable/dp/B000068O54
I didn't bother to spec anything nicer than Hosa cabling here, you probably should look into something nicer if this is the route you take.

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You can also try not using the DI boxes and losing the impedance matching. Sometimes this works, sometimes it doesn't. Hard to tell on paper if you'll get away with it. I'd personally try one channel worth this way and if it works roll it out to the rest. It's a much simpler, single cable setup (although technically "wrong"). BTPA.com and others will make you custom cabling, and if your order is pretty large they'll work with you on price if you ask.

Looks like your specific interface does indeed restrict the headphones to output only the Line Out 1-2. So you'll need a headphone amplifier that will accept stereo balanced TRS line input, like a Samson Q5 or similar. You would then connect the 1/4" line outs 3-4 to this box, and then use this for your headphones.

You could probably get away with using a Behringer HA400 and connecting its input to your Line Out 3-4 using a TRS -> stereo TS y-cable. The only problem there is that the Behringer is expecting a headphone-level signal at its input, and your interface's line out 3-4 is much lower than a headphone signal. So you would have to crank the Behringer's volume up, increasing noise.

Amp: http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-YPP117-inch-Dual-Cable/dp/B000068O54

Cans: www.amazon.com/HOSA-Stereo-4-Inch-Phone-Female/dp/B000068O5D