(Part 3) Best camping tents & shelters according to redditors

> Shelter consists of a hammock (yo, micro-size tent gang. convince me I'm wrong.

People in Western Oklahoma and most of Kansas mock your hammock.

What if there are no trees or poles sturdy enough to mount the hammock?

1.5 lb, two-person net tent - $40

1 lb, 8x10 tarp with guylines and stakes - $80

Total - $120 and 2.5 lbs for a non-free standing setup (need hiking poles). Enjoy!

If you are looking for a good tent that packs up very small i recommend the Snugpack 1 man dome tent.
Snugpack ionosphere

Just enough room for me and my gear and small enough to fit in or strap to a pack. Also very durable.

Take a look at the Kelty Salida 2 is what my search-fu came up with.

Originally I was going to recommend the REI Half Dome 2. I've had mine for years. You can shave weight by ditching a ground cloth if you want but the weight over all is a bit higher than you commented.

Your price range will drive the options available, your weight requirement will limit that even more. If you want to use this as a Bug out type tent keep in mind the quality, uses and durability of what you're buying. I do understand a sealable tent is good to keep out bugs and weather.

My personal BOB 'tent' is:

• an army poncho as the tent (Doubles as a...poncho/shade/rain catchment/litter/sack)
  
• with some special fit poles (to turn it into a free standing tent)
  
• coupled with a multiple use casualty blanket [edit] as the ground sheet, can also wrap up in it too. It can be used for most of the same uses as the poncho.[/edit]
  
• a modified poncho liner (I added zippers around it and in the middle to make it more like a sleeping bag. You could use a heavier duty SOL Bivvy instead
  
• and a Therm-a-rest Z Lite which can be used as a seat too.
  
  I've used all of the above in various weather and stayed warm and dry. Colder weather I'd just keep a few layers of clothing on. Warmer weather I'd just layout on top of the poncho liner and be just fine. I do like the ability to just jump the fuck up and go into action without being impeded by zippers.

> wondering if Bonnaroo has any sort of plan in place for extreme weather like severe thunderstorms or tornadoes

Not really, other than stopping shows and asking people to evacuate enclosed areas like the cinema tent and smaller fenced off areas like pits by the front of stage.

> What are your recommendations for being weather ready at Bonnaroo?

• We bring cheap but large rain boots with us every year. Something like these. Maybe go to Wal Mart or something and see if you can find cheaper. Because when the rain really comes down and makes everything a mud pit...crap like a pair of Crocs or flip flops just isn't going to cut it. I want to stomp around and not worry about it.
  
  
• Bring more than enough socks to last you the weekend. I usually bring like 8 pairs. Just in case. Honestly, once you get past your feet, rain isn't going to do much to you other than maybe make you a little chilly. But it will fuck your feet up (NSFL pic of what happens to wet feet in wet shoes over a long weekend). So just make sure to keep your feet as dry and clean as possible when the weather is nasty.
  
  
• Make sure you have things to secure your tent/canopy. Nothing like having your canopy fly away in the middle of a thunderstorm. Buy a cheap kit like this. And then maybe some extra stakes. And then secure the shit out of your campsite.
  
  
• Depending on the size of your tent, get a cheap military style cot. If your tent fills up with mud and water, this will keep you very happy. We started bringing cots a few years ago and they are freaking fantastic. No sleeping in dirt or mud.
  
  
• Buy a semi-decent lightweight poncho and bring it with you. Stash it in your backpack. It will likely be the same price as those cheap plastic ones they will sell inside the venue. But will last you more than one use.
  
  edit: a couple more pictures to show you what a wet bonnaroo looks like. 1. 2. 3. 4.
  

Tent. Happy with this.

Screens. Get bigger ones. They don't fit over the front widows.

WalMart online offers really affordable premade kits. They usually include first aid, food and comfort items. I have 2 bug out locations that I visit often and update when needed. But just in case, my home has a bug out bag for each person with three days of supplies. I didn't make them for comfort. I made them with weight, content and calorie and protein count in mind. Each has a emergency blanket. A separate bag has 2 pop up tents. The bag weighs 8 pounds. https://www.amazon.com/Pop-up-Automatic-Instant-Portable-Cabana/dp/B072PQDJP4/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=pop+up&qid=1550842163&s=outdoor-recreation&sr=1-3

I have a few friends I keep in close contact with. It is a motley crew and some do not have survival or prepping experience of any kind. One is an electrical engineer who is also a renewable energy consultant. One is a farmer and forager who sells to the local businesses. Weird stuff like various mushrooms and spirulina. She has a few greenhouses that he grows various veggies using hydroponics and pallet gardens. Another is a shade tree mechanic that can work on cars and small engines. With these skill sets, their contribution to any group would be profound.

Try hikerdirect.com . It's a discount program run by Alps Mountaineering for scouts.

Also https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coleman-Exponent-Cadence-2-Two-Person-Back-Packing-Tent/382638523867

Also https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2-Person-Sundome-Tent-Navy/dp/B014LSDUA8

I usually pick up a tent or two at REI garage sales. Most of the time, the issue is something I can fix...tent pole...leak...rip...etc. Also watch their outlet and regular sales. Sometimes you can get decent 2-3 man backpacking tents for under $100.

Don't discount the idea of blue tarps and bug nets.

broke: vandwelling

woke: environmentally sustainable bike tent dwelling

Not a recommendation as I've never used one, but Naiper makes truck and SUV tents. This one looks pretty simple. There are some that roll out into complete tents.

another one made for a truck with a topper

I'm not a fan of the RTT because of the dog. You have to carry him up every night and if he has to pee you have to carry him down. If he jumps out from that high it's bad for the legs. Also there is a lot less room up there than you thing. For like $50 bucks you can get a pop up tent that goes up in seconds. It takes up much less room in the jeep or on the roof rack . I have a bunch of tent's for backpacking and car camping some as expensive as $350 but I settled on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9nSYkEq0aA one for car camping. It takes up some room but set up and take down is instant. it still takes lees room than a roof top and it doesn't make you top heavy. I think roof tops are on there way out unless they lower the prices significantly. Also if you ever have to go under a tree or parking garage they are a pain. $60 on amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FGPY9CE/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Edit: I wanted to mention that I never use the tent stakes. unless its super windy the weight of my sleeping bag or packpack will keep it down.

Anytime! Just my 2 cents, but my girlfriend and I have an 8 person tent that goes up in roughly 5 minutes (practice setting it up in your backyard once or twice before you leave and you'll have your tent up in no time at roo.) And it easily fits a queen size blow up mattress in there, probably takes up 1/3 of the room so you can still lock stuff in your tent when you leave for centeroo. A/C and free ice, you're right about though.

All in all, just make sure you go to Roo. I don't spend hardly any time at my camp, so I just need a space to crash at night and wake up/recover for an hour or two in the mornings (an E-Z up is a must have either way, the porches on the luxury tents are pretty small, don't rely on getting much shade there) and other than that I'm in centeroo the rest of the time.

Hey! I think it’s very doable and you can manage to get stuff cheap! I fly down solo from NY. Last year I bought this 2 person instant tent for myself. Literally pops open, less than $50:

Coleman 2-Person Pop-Up Tent https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FGPY9CE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_W00yDbTZJWDH4

Because I fly, I did buy a hitchhiking style mattress to save on room. This isn’t the exact one but something similar:


Overmont Sleeping Pad Inflatable Extra Thickness Camping Tent Mattress Pad Waterproof for Sleeping Comfortable Compact Air Mat for Backpacking Travel Hiking Built in Pump https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JC6123D/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_710yDb3E3RH0S

That’s literally all I had to buy. I had pillow blankets clothes etc. I did buy a $8 Walmart chair but since I was solo, I honestly never used it. Sat in my car a few times. I did have a group I camped with. Met a guy on a music forum and went with his crew.

Overall, make it happen! You will not be disappointed.

I actually had experience with the Grand Mesa 2!

I would advise against it. Kelty is a great brand, but that tent has some flaws. The door being on the end makes entry and exit somewhat difficult especially with the fly on, the vestibule is small, and the ends of the tent are angled very small. I'm 5'11" and my head and toes touched both ends of the tent and that was without any sleeping pad underneath which would have made it worse.


I ended up returning it and buying a Kelty Salida 2 and I love it. It's a 2 person tent, 4.5lbs, with side entry and therefore a larger vestibule, longer than the Grand Mesa 2, and it has mesh all around the top so it ventilates very well. I would highly recommend it. I've been in it in temperatures from 30 to 100 degrees and I've been comfortable. I think it would be a good fit for what you are seeking. It's selling on Amazon for $116.


http://www.amazon.com/Kelty-Salida-Backpacking-Person-Tent/dp/B004HRP1CY

Or you could cut out the middle man and go china direct and save $120 with the Naturehike Taga 2, i hear good things about it https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XXZD14S/ref=twister_dp_update?_encoding=UTF8&th=1&psc=1

I own a few that I am more or less happy with. The 3mx3m from DD is a popular choice and shows up in quite a few YT videos. The Bushcraft USA storefront tarp is on order, and it shows up in more than a few YT videos. I also have owned the Yukon Outfitter walkabout, the Aqua Quest guide, and the Paria Siltarp. One of my more frequent hiking/bushcraft partners uses an SJK Satellite Tarp and she is very happy with it.

• DD Hammocks Tarp 3x3. Also available in a Superlight version.
  
• Bushcraft Outfitters 10x10. Proceeds help support the Bushcraft USA forums site.
  
• Paria Siltarp. Amazon link, non-affiliate.
  
• Aqua Guide Quest Tarp 10x10. Amazon link, not an affiliate.
  
• SJK Satellite Tarp. Can be found online or also at Cabela's.
  
  If you have access to a sewing machine, DIY is also an option. A tarp is pretty easy to sew, though I found the tieout reinforcements a little tricky at first--just practice a bit on some scraps. Ripstop By The Roll is a great source for fabric and other materials, as is /r/myog.

Various deals I've come across while browsing during this slow work day:

Lighting
Tentcot
8-person Tent
Cot
20% off Air Mattresses

Here is a good introductory link: http://bicycletouringpro.com/50-best-stealth-camping-tips/

 

What I basically do is set up camp somewhere--either in an urban or wooded area--where I won't be detected. Sometimes, I will camp/sleep somewhere I am not supposed to. Hell, I've hidden a pad and sleeping bag behind a large couch in a hotel lounge before. I like to find one of those secure, safe "nooks" that you always look for, and I hang out in them for a couple hours, and when it feels safe enough, I set up camp.

Usually, I set up camp at least 100m into the woodline. I use a small, one person tent that is OD (forest) green and very easy to hide: https://www.amazon.com/Snugpak-Ionosphere-Person-Olive-Green/dp/B003U9851E

I use a basic CCF sleeping pad and a decent sleeping bag. Then, I use what I learned in the military to help avoid detection (noise/light discipline, selecting sites, camouflage). Really, it's easy and anyone can do it. You can survive in most climates in North America year-round. It can be done cheaply and you can live, anywhere in the world, on just the cost of food and water.

Here are mine:

InnoTech Battery Operated String Lights - Absolute shit. Lid doesn't stay capped. Twist the strand even slightly near the battery pack and the whole string will fail. Absolutely worthless.

Coleman 14x10 Foot 8 Person Tent - The tent is straightforward enough to setup but the click locks broke throughout the week and we had to actually break the poles in half just to get it to come down. The center collumn also snapped at one point and this is with minimal in and out whith one side completely blocked from wind by a bus. NOT recommended.

I have an older version of that tent. It was essentially the same, but in a different color. It was awesome for car camping... except the ventilation was absolutely horrible. On even a mildly warm night, we were sweating inside.

I highly recommend the Coleman pop up tent instead.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FGPY9CE/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1524535439&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=coleman%2Bpopup%2Btent&dpPl=1&dpID=41yLoxRMD2L&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1

All the benefits of the Quechua (setup and takedown in seconds), but none of the ventilation issues... and can be had for less than $100. The roof is mesh with an attachable fly. Bonus is the starlight view at night without the fly :)

If you are interested in budget tents, but still prefer a lightweight that includes poles (no trekking poles needed), you should at least look at the Naturehike Taga 2. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XXZD14S/ref=sspa_mw_detail_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have had the 1 person for a couple of years and it has performed well.

For 8x10 silnylon 20d https://www.shop.backpackingadventuregear.com/Special-8x10-Silnylon-Tarp-Special-8x10-silnylon-tarp.htm

For 8x8 or 11x 6.5 hex silpoly 20d https://www.amazon.com/Outdoor-Vitals-Ultralight-Hammock-Shelter/dp/B01N5PCZH4/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=silpoly%2Btarp%2Bultralight&qid=1565701251&s=gateway&sr=8-3&th=1&psc=1

For 30d silnylon in many sizes https://www.amazon.com/Sanctuary-SilTarp-Ultralight-Waterproof-Backpacking/dp/B0763SQJL4/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?keywords=silpoly+tarp+ultralight&qid=1565701477&s=gateway&sr=8-5

For 20d larger silpoly tarps https://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/tarps/

All but the last under 100usd

Wow.

If you’re willing to leap decades ahead, join r/ultralight where these are all common ideas just using far more ‘modern’ and lighter materials

Why canvas and not silnylon? For $90, less than 2 lbs, and 10x12’ you can get a simple, starter one that is easily rigged in trees or with trekking poles. Sanctuary SilTarp - Ultralight and Waterproof Ripstop Silnylon Rain Shelter Tarp, ... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XJ7322N/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_c_api_i_g4zmDb4M4WFQ5

I’ve many heavy HF silver tarps. They last a long time.... few years covering the go kart with southern exposure.

Netting. Like this https://mountainlaureldesigns.com/product/mld-pyramid-innernets/ but far cheaper, no? If you search, you will find something like this .... US $9.72 23％ Off | Ultralight Bug Net Hammock Tent Mosquito Outdoor Backyard Hiking Backpacking Travel Camping Tent Hamac Rede Hamaca Hangmat
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/cFHOexTK

Knife? Just a single 3” lockblade for my backpacking. (EDC is a fat Victorinox.)

For sleeping bags in winter, just layer a down bag and a down quilt, add a vapor barrier liner inside, and many pads below. If you want DIY & cheap for the latter see https://www.slideshare.net/mobile/sweerek/diy-sleeping-pad-eps-accordian-27mar15

Or check out https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/topics/camping-and-hiking/best-sleeping-bag-down-cold-weather

Shifting from bushcrafter to UL is a big change in gear. Best book I know & recommend to my Scouts is... https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Hikers-Gear-Guide-Second/dp/1426217846/. Only $10 ish

I’m from MN. Love winter camping.

A tarp and net tent sounds like the ticket as far as space and price. A 10 x 10 would offer awesome coverage, even for splash on harder surfaces. You could have somebody like Jared at Simply Light Designs sew up a Silpoly for a reasonable price (probably less than $150). Then add a net tent. The one from Paria is a little heavy but pretty cheap

Paria Outdoor Products Breeze Mesh Tent - Ultralight 2 Person Mesh Tent Shelter - Perfect for Camping, Backpacking and Thru-Hikes https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NA9BU4Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_kx3HDb9A9002K

I'm just getting into tarps myself and found these two on amazon prime:

Silpoly: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B004RVHBLO

Silnylon: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01BFLREUQ

They're both about the same size. According to this guide silnylon stretches when wet but is lighter and stronger when new than silpoly, but silnylon loses strength when wet and over time due to UV rays. So silpoly is a bit heavier but lasts longer and is stronger over its life.

I'm probably going to pick the silpoly one, but both seem to be a better choice than the MEC tarp.

I just ordered a knock off on Amazon. The Paria net tent with bathtub floor. ~21oz. I'll report on it after I get it on Wednesday. I like buying cheap stuff first to see if I like it before dropping coin on nice stuff.

I'm thinking a silnylon tarp (maybe something like this?) https://www.amazon.com/Sanctuary-SilTarp-Ultralight-Waterproof-Backpacking/dp/B0763SQJL4/ for the top.

For the ground sheet I'm renovating my house and have a lot of 6 mil polyethylene sheeting (https://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-20-ft-x-100-ft-Clear-6-mil-Plastic-Sheeting-CFHD0620C/204711640 or similar) around so I figured I could just cut maybe 6x8 feet of that out and be good. I just want to keep my bag/pad and any gear inside the shelter off wet ground.

For anyone curious, it's these items:

Tent: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NA6NXB3/

Canopy: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZKYSCOM/

That is a mesh/net tent I got from Amazon that I really like. I'm working on a video for it that I'll hopefully have up soon. You can see some of it at the end of this video on the Cumberland Trail where I slept in it without a tarp and it was amazing!

Here is a direct link to the tent on [Amazon] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G86URIY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

The tent is a knock off of the MSR Mesh House tent but I like this one better because it has a huge side door along with the door on the frame side. I got it for about $43 and I see it's now basically $60.

Bryce 2P Two Person Ultralight Tent

I just received this tent as a gift and have loved it. It's a little heavier than a lot of other options but for the price you can't beat it.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CZ0Q7RW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_9wIJybFEKNJJV

This would probably work well for you, and it comes in several different sizes: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004RVHBLO/ref=twister_B07BNZK137

I have one of these and love it:

https://www.amazon.com/Napier-Sportz-Cove-61500-Minivan/dp/B01NA6NXB3

If you use it, you have to disconnect the battery overnight because of my 2019’s security lights, unless someone here knows a workaround, but you might not have that issue in a 2015. However, that’s not a huge problem. A box on top is essential for long trips. I also use an air mattress. Lastly, the Sylvan Sport Go is pretty nice and towable by a Subaru. Quick set up and super simple as a tent. Or use it to tow your stuff if you need more room than just a roof top box.

I just ordered this pretty neat kit. Mallets retail over 10 bucks usually, just by themselves.

Aqua Quest Guide Sil Tarp - 100% Waterproof & Ultralight RipStop Nylon Material - 10 x 7 ft Medium / Small - Compact, Versatile, Durable Backpacking Tarpaulin - Green https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004RVHBLO/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_5b1Mxb8MG9BFV

What's your budget? I'm in the same situation as you basically, I work remotely and go to school full time, but it's summer! So I rarely have left the house recently, and Overwatch is an addictive game :-)!

However, I love camping, hiking, and the outdoors in general so I can give you a pretty good overview from someone with your perspective.

If I were to give general advice: don't overthink it! Find a day or two, a national forest or state park with primitive camping, and go for it! Here in the states it's pretty safe to go alone, as long as you aren't going super deep into the parks (which you won't your first time out).

Honestly, that tent is probably overkill for your first time out. I highly recommend getting inexpensive gear (read: not cheap! inexpensive) and making sure this is something you'd like to do.

So, in a nice list format, what I would tell my friends/family interested in the hobby:

1. Find a well traveled trail or park for your first trip.
   
2. Purchase reputable gear, but don't spend a ton yet
   
   
   

• Tents, I would say that this tent: Coleman Sundome
  would be a great starter.
  
  
• Backpack: you cannot go wrong with military packs, but I wouldn't bother with that one. Go with something from a military surplus store near you, they will be cheap and hardy.
  
  
• Sleeping bag: same as tents, until you decide whats right for you.
  
  
• I also recommend bringing a hammock if the weather is nice, it can make a great camp chair or even shelter if you get into this enough.
  
  
  

3. Bring a camera, and remember the cardinal rule of camping: Take only photos, leave only footprints! Don't ruin the outdoors for other people by taking things, or leaving trash.
   
   
4. I like to bring a book, it feels very zen to read in the stillness of a forest.
   
   
5. Respect the wildlife, and be aware.
   
   
   This really only scratches the surface: if you have any questions let me know!
   
   

Not perfectly ultralight, but I found this on Amazon too.

https://www.amazon.com/Hikingworld-Lightweight-Camping-Person-Anti-Mosquito/dp/B01G86URIY/ref=pd_sim_468_32?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=7ZGJ1HEHB1WJ9V829EBE

I don't have any experience with that one in particular, but it's pretty similar to a lot of camping tents I've been in and will do fine if the rain stays vertical. If you want a rainfly with a little more coverage there's also vestibule-style ones like the Mountainsmith Genesee, where the rainfly extends far past the doors. I tend to like that style, since you can get in and out of your tent after a rainy night without getting any water inside it.

We went on a 2-week vacation when our guy was about about 21 months and got him a "sleepy tent" https://www.amazon.com/Pop-up-Automatic-Instant-Portable-Cabana/dp/B072PQDJP4/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?keywords=kids+beach+tent&qid=1550936723&s=gateway&sr=8-5&pldnSite=1

Set it up on the floor with a blanket under it and a pillow and his blankie inside and it gave him a "spot" so he wasn't just rolling around on the floor and he wasn't on the bed (he definitely wasn't ready to be on a bed by himself - he fell off of it once while we were taking a nap). We didn't zip it shut or anything, but he kept himself inside mostly and it was super compact (which was necessary for us given the whole kids-suitcases-trains situation.) If you'll have a car it's probably not as necessary but it worked well for us.

Thank you so much for the detailed answer! The link is not working though. I am assuming you mean these ones? Edit: Saw it.

I didn't pay attention to the weight of the tent. I figured if I was gonna get one, might as well get a bigger one but you're right. I don't think I'll ever need a 2+ person tent, perhaps this one. Also, just checked my sleeping bag and it's rated for 40F which is no good. Think I'm going with this one. I dropped the lanterns and the torches as you suggested. A headlamp and my phone should be enough.

I didn't put in a stove just to be on the safe side since I'm going through an airport. I added this cooking set with one stove, and I'll just get the fuel from a nearby Walmart once I'm there. I'm lost when it comes to the sleeping pad. Suggestions?

Paria tarp is $65-80, depending on which shape you get. These are good quality budget options. The hex tarp versions are designed for hammocks.

https://www.pariaoutdoorproducts.com/collections/camping-tents-backpacking-tent/products/silnylon-tarp-sanctuary-siltarp?variant=203901468692

Also available on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Sanctuary-SilTarp-Ultralight-Waterproof-Backpacking/dp/B0763SQJL4/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=paria%2Btarp&qid=1557601375&s=gateway&sr=8-3&th=1&psc=1

I have the Lynx 2 person tent and like it.

The Lynx 1 person also looks like a fantastic option.

Only thing I don't like is their performance in the wind. If the wind hits the sides it'll blow into you a little but if you are not in a field you should be more than fine.

Are you trying to put your bike into it too? I just ran a chain around a tree and through the bike and then ran one of the tents supports through and made it supported by the bike so noone could remove it while I was sleeping.

Here is something that kinda includes your bike but it's not going to shield your bike if that's what you want.

My personal recommendation is to go with one of the lynxs and then use the rest of your budget for a decent flashlight/lantern, and a sleeping pad.

This is my sleeping pad and while nice, I would recommend getting something a little bigger because I would roll on the edges pretty frequently.

Dude. I'd just get this tent, it comes with built-in mosquito netting.

An 8 person pop up tent will give you a portable bedroom with plenty of space for a chair, crib, tall enough to walk in, and even a queen size air mattress if you want.

Its big and heavy, but if you are just car camping that doesn't matter.

Tyara, I'm not used to the username yet.

/u/Alligator_Pie is fucking amazing. She is so funny and cool. And incredibly generous and kind.

She needs this from her Camping wishlist.

I bought this one for myself.
It's a 4 person tent but it's amazing! I leave all my stuff inside and don't have to worry about it and the ventilation is AMAZING!
Mountainsmith Genesee 4 Person 3 Season Tent

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00452C2KA/ref=oh_details_o06_s01_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have the Kelty Salida 2 and love it. It is a little over your price (I think it is like $140 atm) but is a quality tent that is only 4 pounds 8 oz. That one you linked to doesn't look that great.

The Mountainsmith Morrison 2 person and Mountainsmith Genesee 4 person are both lightweight and economical. Most of the top rated back packing tents are over $250, but these are rated well.

Basically, where do I start? I hadn't camped since I was a little kid in Girl Scouts. And I hated it then. But, I also lived in Florida, and we were camping in the summer - so everything was wet, and there were mosquitos and bugs EVERYWHERE. I'm in my 30's now and live in Seattle, so a much different climate. Last September we spent a week driving around Utah car camping and I loved it.

I want to do some weekend trips out to the North Cascades, Rainier, and hopefully we'll get a permit for the Enchantments (I'm not holding my breath on that one though). We've only ever done day hiking, and I know our backpacks won't work for overnights. And I don't want to be overloaded with heavy gear, even if it's cheaper, so I'm really looking into ultralight stuff. But what the hell should I get? There are so many options it's mind numbing. We'd be camping in the summer/early fall, just two of us. We've got about $500 to spend as an initial investment, which won't get us really far, but some of the essentials would obviously be beneficial.

Any recommendations? Brands to stay away from? So far I've been looking at these options:

Tent 1

Tent 2

Tent 3

Backpack for me

Backpack for him

Sleeping Bag 1

Sleeping Bag 2

Any tips/help would be super appreciated. I don't expect trips to be longer than 2 days at a time, unless we score a permit for the Enchantments, and that I would want to do 3-4 days.

For car camping, we've used the Coleman Hooligan for about three years now.


It's technically a 3 person tent, but with a medium sized dog it will probably be perfect. It doesn't have a giant vestibule, but it's large enough to get in and out of and store wet gear.


Sub $100. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001TSABLA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Buy a $130 tent from amazon while you save up for the duplex. Then you'll have a spare to give friends and don't have to wait to backpack.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XXZD14S/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

A blog that links to a blog that links to a shopping site that sells the tent for 33% more than the standard internet going rate (e.g. Amazon).

Oh yeah, none of those three sites even bother to mention the manufacturer (Topeak) or model (Bikamper, though that can be seen in the pictures).

Downvoted.

There's this on Amazon for only US$70. It's 10' x 7' though

Hi I'm looking for a space to camp! I will help split the tent camping cost. My tent is fairly small and I won't need much space. Looking to find a group so I don't have to shell out the full cost of camping. I play ukulele and am excited for firefly! Will be getting there thursday. Message me!
my tent:
http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000014781-2-Person-Pop-Up-Tent/dp/B00FGPY9CE?ie=UTF8&keywords=coleman%20pop%20up%20tent&qid=1465326331&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

https://www.facebook.com/Toddsky

I've seen this asked several times in the past. Try the search bar.

Also, Maybe look into a [10x10 EZ UP] (http://www.amazon.com/Z-UP-SR9104BL-Sierra-10-Feet/dp/B000NRPN8E?ie=UTF8&keywords=10x10%20ez%20up&qid=1465351173&ref_=sr_1_2&sr=8-2) that you can stake down and maybe add a tarp on the side as a wall. If thats not possible maybe look into a ceramic coating for the entire vehicle. There are also other protective coatings and wraps you can look into.

Looks a bit like this but presumably cheaper: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01NA6NXB3/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ds-rDbFXGZJCA

Adding some links to the products I listed below (in another post) in case you are interested:

EZupTent

CampChairs

Cardgames

Camping with groups can be a ton of fun. Hope you have a great time.

I don't know if there's something out there big enough for a bike (maybe this Mountainsmith 4P tent would be big enough?), but why not pitch a tent for you, and set up a tarp over your bike? There's lots of ways to set up a tarp for something like that, and that will only set you back for a decent tarp, some paracord and a few stakes (maybe a pole or two if you're not camping near trees).

I guess you could still get that Mountainsmith tent, and if it's not big enough for your bike, pick up a tarp/cord/stakes. I got that tent for my wife / daughter to use, and though I've yet to try it in the rain, it sure had some nice features (full rainfly, aluminum poles, bathtub floor, etc.).

Not sure if this is something you'd be interested in, since this won't really allow you to bring your bike in the tent with you. Topeak Bikamper.

I figure you could put a small tarp over the rear of the bike and have a little more room for gear outside.

Check out the Kelty Salida 2

http://www.amazon.com/Kelty-Salida-Backpacking-Person-Tent/dp/B004HRP1CY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370455422&sr=8-1&keywords=kelty+salida+2

It is mostly a neutral color and holds me (6' 3")
and my gear. Good balance of size, weight and price. I think it was a backpacker editor's choice a few years ago. I like mine.

An alternative is the Bikamper which uses the front wheel to support one end and the handlebars for the other. I saw someone using one of these. Looked a little fiddly and slower than setting up my tent. About the size of a coffin, no thanks I'll be spending a lot of time in one later.

I got this little tent kit along with the tent, and it's been pretty useful, especially the mallet and dust pan. I also got a little 2'x3' carpet from a garage sale I keep outside the tent for shoes so it doesn't get too dirty inside. I haven't used it in the rain yet, but it was pretty good venting wise! It's screen on all four sides if you unzip all the privacy flaps. Since there were just the two of us and it was car camping, I actually just brought two twin sized air mattresses with a battery powered blower to inflate them. When you're at a music festival camping for five days, you want to be comfy enough to enjoy the little sleep you actually get haha

The tent kit your referring to is this one?

Instant tents are the best things ever. Mine has braved deserts, rainforests and even wintry weather during many festivals in different climates.

http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-14x10-Foot-Person-Instant/dp/B003QUT9OE/

Also, I got the last one of these in stock, but so very useful.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002SV31DM/

I also recommend having at least 2 tarps. 1 for underneath your camp, one for foul weather or makeshift shade.

I picked up one of these tents recently. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CZ0Q7RW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_jGS1xbZ4XFG8R

I haven't tried it without the fly, but the entire tent body, besides the bottom obviously, is mesh. So I would imagine it would be nice and cool

Realized my phone autocorrected mountainsmith to a misspelling. $85 on Amazon right now.




Mountainsmith Genesee 4 Person 3 Season Tent (Lotus Blue) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00452C2KA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_vEQHDbWBX4N01

(Apologies, not sure what it would be on .co.uk)

Now I'm looking at this tarp because I can get prime shipping on it and hopefully two day shipping. Any thoughts?

We put up a canopy and set up some tables, here's a pic from last year. We've condensed things down a lot since then, we only travel with one tote and one cooler now. In the picture you can see one of these which is nice as an option to sleep with the hatch open on hot nights. For a little extra ventilation we also got these and roll down the back windows.

Tarp:

Option 1: https://www.amazon.com/Sanctuary-SilTarp-Ultralight-Waterproof-Backpacking/dp/B06XJ7322N/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1538600945&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=ul%2Btarp&th=1&psc=1

Option 2 (more durable): https://www.amazon.com/DD-Tarp-3m-Olive-Green/dp/B005FPN7GE/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1538601289&sr=1-3&keywords=dd+tarp

Bug net: https://www.amazon.com/Breeze-Mesh-Tent-Ultralight-Backpacking/dp/B01NA9BU4Q/ref=pd_bxgy_468_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01NA9BU4Q&pd_rd_r=a541965e-c750-11e8-83ba-35492fd40af5&pd_rd_w=5VWOY&pd_rd_wg=3uCes&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3f9889ac-6c45-46e8-b515-3af650557207&pf_rd_r=X7JJ3Y8J81XVAAR36D9Y&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=X7JJ3Y8J81XVAAR36D9Y

Quilt: http://www.hammockgear.com/burrow-econ-40/ (get a warmer one if you need it)

Sleeping pad: https://www.amazon.com/Therm-Rest-Original-Ultralight-Camping/dp/B00453NA1E/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1538601159&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=thermarest+zlite+sol&psc=1

You will need trekking poles for the tarp/tent or save a few bucks and find a couple of sticks when you get there!

Trekking poles: https://www.amazon.com/BAFX-Products-Hiking-Walking-Trekking/dp/B007YT854S/ref=sr_1_3_acs_ac_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1538601222&sr=1-3-acs&keywords=trekking+poles

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Pack: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-granite-gear-crown-x60

For example, is something like this trash or gimmicky?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072PQDJP4/ref=cm_sw_r_fa_dp_U_7OjXBb7WWZTG5

What about those beach pop up tents? Like this:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072PQDJP4

Hopefully not bad weather, if it is we could bail. I've used the tent for just me aswell which is nice since you can pull your backpack and everything inside rather than placing things under the rainfly and waking up to frozen shoe laces.

One of the consdierations is I can't figure out great bedding still, the weather isn't that cold so airmatresses could work well and are much cheaper than another Q-Core.

Buying this tent: https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Sundome-2-Person-Dome-Tent/dp/B014LSDUA8/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1485970847&sr=8-14&keywords=3+person+tent

Plus an airmatress would be cheaper.

I'm nervous about a bad trip since I don't think she has gone camping before and that might turn her off from future trips.

Coleman Hooligan 3-Person Backpacking Tent https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001TSABLA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_FqCvCbYAC2BQT

I’ve been using this one for a couple years and have no complaints. Perfect size for 2 people and their gear. The vestibule is great for extra dry storage.

17.5x5x5 according to https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CZ0Q7RW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_D4OEzbFRAF01W

Got a zlite style ccf pad (folding) and a hyke and byke 15 deg down bag coming from Amazon as well. Bag comes with a compression sack. Rest of my gear is gonna be either gear from my military days, some surplus, and some backpacking gear. Following the Frugal Backpacker list that starts under $300. Replaced some items as I plan on doing some 14ers and stuff :)

I'm going to cheat, but I think $150 is a reasonable starter budget for the following reason: skip the sleeping bag. You don't need a sleeping bag to go camping. I don't know anyone who chooses to sleep in a bag at home, so I can confidently say that everyone prefers to sleep with a blanket. Sleeping bags are for backpackers who need to maximize warmth for a given size and weight. Just bring a couple of blankets (one light, one warm) and you're good to go camping. Cost: free, comfort: high.

Tent: I own this coleman 3 person tent you can get for $63 on amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000001978-Parent-Hooligan-Tent/dp/B001TSABLA?th=1

This is a great tent with a nice sized vestibule that is very useful in bad weather. Easy to pitch and surprisingly weatherproof (wind and hard rain). It's not the only option, but shows what you can get on the cheap. I think it's best to go somewhat cheap on the tent with a name brand like coleman because it will be relatively reliable and can be repurposed as a 'beater tent' in the future if your friend decides to upgrade. If you don't go with that option, consider the door and rain fly positioning. Many cheap tents don't provide any coverage of the door so entering when it's raining will cause everything inside to get soaked.

Pad: I'd spend the rest of the money on a decent pad. If this is for a single person, a self inflating sleeping pad will be the most comfortable and provide plenty of warmth from the cold ground. A good air mattress can also be had for cheap, but will be very cold without some sort of insulation underneath you (more blankets!). You could opt for used gear here, because really good sleeping pads cost a fair amount of money. Looking at amazon however, there seem to be plenty of self inflating pads for less than $100 that get great reviews like this one (go big and thick for comfort): https://www.amazon.com/Lightspeed-Outdoors-Warmth-Inflating-Sleep/dp/B01F7WEQYG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1492637247&sr=8-5&keywords=self%2Binflating%2Bpad&th=1&psc=1

I don't have this specific one (use an exped megamat), but I think self inflating is the way to go for car camping because of the tremendous amount of comfort it provides relative to purely inflatable options without the foam insert. I just bought an exped megamat double wide and am planning to put up my LXW megamat up for sale on geartrade. If your friend is interested in that, he could get a $250 mat for ~$100 which really is the ultimate in comfort. There may be other good options on geartrade already!

Good luck, always good to hear about people getting into camping

https://www.amazon.com/Naturehike-Persons-Ultralight-Rainproof-Camping/dp/B06XXZD14S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496078292&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=naturehike&th=1&psc=1

2.6 lbs, 120 USD.

Snugpak out of the UK makes some unreal bivy the stratosphere http://www.amazon.ca/Snugpak-Outdoor-Gear-92850-Ionosphere/dp/B003U9851Eand one man tent the ionospherehttp://www.amazon.com/Snugpak-92860-Stratosphere-Person-Shelter/dp/B005BN4RY6 more for military use but i use the ionosphere in mountain training and when ounces equal pounds and pounds equal pain, i highly recommend either one

That is pretty sweet! I'm trying to find siltarp in Canada or places that sell it here in Canada dollars so I don't have to pay a fortune for customs but I'm having a hard time.

Edit: Found this https://www.amazon.ca/Aqua-Quest-Guide-Medium-Green/dp/B004RVHBLO. Not sure if I can do better or not. Don't know much about siltarps yet.

Gold my friend. Pure gold.

Wait. There is one thing I thought of. If you can afford it, get a bivy bag to sleep in. Or maybe a one person tent.

Yep. I paid $49.00 for a 4x6 fits two Walmart special. I actually ended up getting two of them in the long run. It says two man but my son and I didn't want to share. They are suitable but I really want one of the lighter even more collapsible ones for backpacking that has better wind/rain resistance. We lugged them out on an overnight backpacking trip in case it started raining but we didn't even end up using them. We really just wanted to test out our cheap hammocks. Carrying all that junk starts to suck a little after 8 miles so lighter is better. We intentionally over packed a little bit because we were practicing for a section hike on the Appalachian trail.

I want one like this one

Thanks!

I was looking at one of the Jetboil systems for cooking. I cant decide if I want the Flash or one of the bigger ones. Do you have any experience with that?

For a tent I was looking at a Kelty Salida 2 person tent

For water I am not to concerned with purification. I want to start with just one night out camps, so I should be able to carry the water I need for the hike in, camp, hike out with me. I dont know if this is enough but I was looking to carry it all in a MSR Deluxe Dromedary Bag

As far as a backpack, I have no idea what I want, how to size them (if thats even important). I dont want something super large, maybe 50-70 range, so I have room to do 3-4 night stays eventually without having to buy a new bag.

Follow up: maybe I would be better off shelling out a couple of extra bucks for something like this?

Yeah, I tried to find something similar to my tent, a Walrus which weighs a mere 3lbs for 4 people.

Coleman Hooligan - I can't find weight specs but this looks promising.

See what Amazon has to offer.

Get a pop-up tent, similar to this. I can't recommend that enough. Also, make sure you also have a shade tent, or at least something to provide decent shade, for the day.

https://www.amazon.com/Breeze-Mesh-Tent/dp/B01NA9BU4Q/ref=cm_cr_othr_d_rvw_txt?ie=UTF8

I'm a side sleeper too... crossing out the cots. Those deluxe cots are fairly expensive, since I was hoping to not have to be in my camping area TOO much. I want to see a lot, but I'm keeping it realistic. I have a bare EZ up from when my sister sells her jewelry at the arts market downtown once a month, would that hold up well enough? I think it's a general 10x10 blue tarp style. And right now, I'm debating buying this tent (http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000001590-Hooligan-3-Tent/dp/B001TSABLA), or this tent (http://www.amazon.com/Embark-Dome-season-person-Green/dp/B00B9ZVFHM), considering the "Hooligan" tent is only 10 dollars less on Prime, than the Embark Dome - but the Dome is much larger. But there's not many reviews on the Dome.

EDIT: Plus, this is only 100 on Prime... (http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000001594-Montana-8-Tent/dp/B001TSCF96)

Ezup commercial. Be sure to drop it in the wind... That's why you see people with them broken

This one isn't bad: http://www.amazon.com/E-Z-UP-Sierra-Canopy-Blue/dp/B000NRPN8E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369186132&sr=8-1&keywords=ezup


and get some stakes like these: http://www.amazon.com/Non-Rust-Galvanized-Steel-Tent-Stakes/dp/B001AV3STS/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1369186215&sr=8-5&keywords=long+stakes

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MUEGMLR/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If you are looking at a hammock setup, I wouldn't go for what you have listed, it's pretty heavy and you will move on from that quickly. I just built a modular hammock setup that comes in just a little over 2lbs for $200. It uses no hardware, just a becket hitch to attach the straps to the continuous loop. Don't know the name of the knot I use to tie up the tarp, but many can be used.

Hammock $30: Wide Netless Hammock from Dutchwaregear with continuous loops and ridgeline

Tarp $80: Hexagon Siltarp from Amazon

Bugnet $57: Bottom entry bugnet from dutchwaregear

Suspension $25 UHMWPE Straps from dutchwaregear

The only additional things you need is an underquilt/pad and a quilt/sleeping bag.

If you are trying to sleep two people. I would get two hammocks, maybe a bigger tarp, and dutchwaregear offers a double bugnet. Sleeping two people in one hammock all night is not going to be comfy.

Someone linked this one in a different thread Tent

Edit.
For anyone down voting. I hope you know how heavy an impractical it is. There is also a $210 domestic shipping charge and a warning of it being this high bc of weight. So good luck on your $280 total cardboard tent when there are $30 alternatives or for equal price you can by a top tier tent.

No offense, but that is an awful idea.

Aside from it being a €55 ($61.50, without shipping) cardboard box that had a $20 canvas alternative, the material would be a joke in a festivals setting. Cardboard is be heavier, bulkier (can't roll up), will melt if it's damp/muddy/raining/humid, has poor protection from wind, and a poor insulator.

This product is a cute toy to buy for kids for in home use, or maybe a few hours in the backyard. But to suggest it is in any way a reasonable alternative to a traditional $30 canvas/nylon/felt/polyester tent.

Take this for example. No one in their right mind would buy that $60 cardboard toy over this.

The issue isn't the tent or the tent company.

I don't know about the UK, but I'm US based and camp a lot and I've never heard of disposable tents being marketed.

There are however very cheap tents $10-$30, which would be a low enough price point where a lot of people wouldn't bother going through the trouble of repacking when they can just get a new one next year (or the 2-3 times a year they'd use one).

I don't see how this is a issue of the tent company. It's a reflection of bad culture, upbringing, and lack of respect. I'd say ironically more than half of these festivals patrons are the same people that bitch about income and global warming, yet will discard tents in the name of laziness or convenience.

Anything cheap (or deemed cheap by the owner) can be "disposable" or "one time use". Should companies just not be allowed to sell anything under $100?

Sometime the issue is the general public, and not corporations. People forget that those high up are human just like those below, and unfortunately human actions are usually self-motivated. Whether it's lobbying to pass a law to make more money at the expense of an employee having Healthcare, or throwing away a tent because you don't want to deal with the cleaning/moving of it at the expense of some poor sap having to clean it for you or it polluting the earth. People higher up can just do it at a larger scale per person. But lower down, if enough people act the same, it can have an equally big impact. Such as 30,000 festival goers leaving 10,000 tents in a field.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G86URIY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 + Tarp