Best science fiction romance books according to redditors
We found 322 Reddit comments discussing the best science fiction romance books. We ranked the 63 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
We found 322 Reddit comments discussing the best science fiction romance books. We ranked the 63 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
Not necessarily my strong suit (my own stuff is roughly the opposite of what you're looking for, so I figure I'm safe to recommend things here) but I definitely have a few to check out
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Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorkosigan Saga first and foremost. There is quite a bit of war and conflict, but it's not really the focus of the plot. The focus is the characters and their development, primarily the titular Miles Vorkosigan.
You can start with the first Miles Vorkosigan book ( https://www.amazon.com/Warriors-Apprentice-Lois-McMaster-Bujold/dp/1886778272 ) or with the duology around his mother (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005BH9T86/ref=series_dp_rw_ca_2)
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Next up would be Nathan Lowell's Golden Age of The Solar Clipper. No wars at all, these cover the life story of a merchant shipper rising from a generic crewman to captain and owner of his own ship. Fascinating character studies and very well written. Start with Quarter Share ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AMO7VM4/ref=series_dp_rw_ca_1)
Lindsay Buroker's space opera has a bunch of war and conflict, but it's mostly background for a more general adventure SF story. The first three books of her Fallen Empire series are bundled up here: https://www.amazon.com/Fallen-Empire-Omnibus-Books-prequel-ebook/dp/B06XK7HT4T
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I'm now going to lurk on this thread, as I should probably be reading stuff with a tad fewer explosions myself ;)
I bet he also wanted this book for his birthday: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Space-Raptor-Trilogy-Chuck-Tingle/dp/1535205423/
I like educational tv stuff and read trash like Space Raptor Butt Trilogy for fun.
Hmm...I think they gotta make that a tv series so I can better fit on this column list.
The followups are even more awesome. Once he found out that Space Raptor Butt Invasion had only been nominated as a joke by a bunch of alt-right asshole who were trying to wreck the Hugo Awards he started denouncing them as scoundrel devilmen in the service of Ted Cobbler, and expanded his space raptor butt work into a trilogy with two new volumes that are just thinly veiled allegories for the whole Hugo-rigging debacle.
Oh and he also started heavily promoting science fiction by various progressive and minority authors that were in the alt right's sights.
This is mine
https://www.amazon.com/Accusations-Plagiarism-Removing-Republican-Convention-ebook/dp/B01IWVBM6O
Try the Space Raptor Butt Trilogy by Dr. Chuck Tingle. You may have to read it a couple of times for it to really sink in, but it really helped me get worse.
After you finish that you should easily be able to digest Dr. Tingle's more advanced works. I'd recommend starting with Slammed In The Butthole By My Concept Of Linear Time (4th Edition).
My book is up on there, and my second book will be when it comes out in about a week. The title is Forging Divinity. I think it would probably suit your tastes - I work as a systems designer for a RPG company, and you seem to like RPGish styles of books.
Here's a quick blurb:
Some say that in the city of Orlyn, godhood is on sale to the highest bidder. Thousands flock to the city each year, hoping for a chance at immortality.
Lydia Hastings is a knowledge sorcerer, capable of extracting information from anything she touches. When she travels to Orlyn to validate the claims of the local faith, she discovers a conspiracy that could lead to a war between the world's three greatest powers. At the focal point is a prisoner who bears a striking resemblance to the long-missing leader of the pantheon she worships.
Rescuing the prisoner would require risking her carefully cultivated cover - but his execution could mean the end of everything Lydia holds dear.
If you're in the mood for science fantasy, I'd also strongly recommend Without Bloodshed by /u/starbreakerauthor. I believe that should be up on the lending library as well. He writes very believable characters (including his antagonists) and interesting technology.
It gets better
Yep. Everything I know about it is from what I read of the Amazon description. It's a YA series about a dystopian society in which people are divided at birth into one of two arbitrary categories based on what their genitals look like. It's chilling really, sure is a good thing the real world isn't like that.
ANSI Standard Fantasy
Check out The First Law by Joe Abercrombie:
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If you want to read about badass thieves, check out Scott Lynch's Gentleman Bastards:
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Speaking of thieves, Michael J. Sullivan's Riyria Chronicles is good clean fun in the tradition of Fritz Leiber's classic stories of Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser (which you should also read).
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You might also like Forging Divinity and Stealing Sorcery by Andrew Rowe (/u/Salaris). People will recommend Brandon Sanderson, but I think Rowe does Sandersonian fantasy better than Sanderson himself. (And I got four words for anybody who thinks that's blasphemy: "Come at me, bro.")
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People will also recommend Patrick Rothfuss' Kingkiller Chronicles:
My opinion is that you should read him for his prose, and treat his protagonist as an unreliable narrator.
Science Fantasy
All of the above is medieval or Renaissance fantasy, and most of the recommendations you'll get are for medieval/Renaissance fantasy, but my own preference is for science fantasy. I write it, and so I try to read as much of it as I can as well.
I don't think you can go wrong with Michael Moorcock. He's very prolific, but much of his early work is in novellas that are now published as compilations. He's one of the first big "multiverse" writers, and many of his stories involve an eternal conflict between Law and Chaos, as well as an Eternal Champion who serves the cosmic balance by opposing whichever force is dominant on his world. The Eternal Champion has had many incarnations, but only one (Erekose) remembers the others: Elric, Corum, Dorian Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius, Oswald Bastable, etc. I started with the Hawkmoon books, but Moorcock's probably best known for Elric.
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If you haven't read Frank Herbert's Dune, I strongly suggest doing so. It's a labyrinthine novel normally marketed as science fiction, but it reads like fantasy. You've probably heard of it.
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Chances are you haven't heard of Roger Zelazny, which is a shame. His Amber novels, starting with Nine Princes in Amber, are excellent reads, though many will argue that the novels starring Corwin are better than those featuring his son Merlin.
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There are also various "dying earth" writers and series, starting with Jack Vance and his Dying Earth novels:
These novels are set in a far-future earth where magic and science are indistinguishable from one another and spellcasters fire off magicks as if they were D&D wizards (mainly because Gary Gygax borrowed from Vance).
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Another dying earth series you'll see mentioned is Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun. It's excellent, but the prose is so dense and complex that when people complain to me that my books aren't easy reading, I tell them, "You think I'm tough? Go read Gene Wolfe."
New Sun's protagonist, Severian the journeyman torturer, is one of fantasy's classic unreliable narrators.
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And then there's M. John Harrison's Viriconium novels, an odd series. The prose is gorgeous, but the first in the series, The Pastel City, is the only one of the bunch that actually reads like fantasy. The sequel, A Storm of Wings, picks up where The Pastel City left off but gets profoundly weird, and subsequent novels leave fantasy behind altogether.
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Getting back to science fantasy for people who aren't as pretentious as I am, I'd be remiss if I didn't recommend Celia S. Friedman's Coldfire Trilogy.
Further details here.
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But one of my favorites is C. J. Cherryh's Morgaine Saga
Morgaine is the last of a team of scientists sent to close the space-time gates the qhal refurbished and abused to the point of causing the complete collapse of the space-time continuum. Armed primarily with her sword Changeling, which is itself a gate, Morgaine closes each gate behind her and destroys it.
But it isn't Morgaine's viewpoint we get, but that of Vanye, an outcast warrior who finds himself bound to Morgaine's service because he was desperate enough to ask shelter of her at any price. Vanye doesn't have the education to understand the technological tools Morgaine uses as anything but witchcraft, but his honor drives him to fight beside her despite his fear.
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If you like cowboys, you don't have to settle for Stephen King's The Dark Tower and what I like to call the "new game plus" ending. You could also read S. A. Hunt's (/u/authorsahunt) The Outlaw King:
The series is ongoing, but these three books alone will keep you busy for a while.
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Finally, I'm going to recommend my own work (assuming you've read this far). My Starbreaker series is near-future science fantasy set in an alternate history and inspired by classic heavy metal (Judas Priest, Queensryche, Iron Maiden, Blue Oyster Cult, etc). I write about all-too-human androids and swashbuckling sopranos exposing corruption and fighting demons from outer space. I write about a dark lord who wears white who already rules the world and is trying to save it. I've got friendly AIs, transoceanic maglevs, questions of whether the end justifies the means, and a great big Maine Coon cat who can play Texas Hold 'Em, but can't bluff worth a damn.
Starbreaker started out as a big-ass novel, but is now a series:
If you've read this far, thanks. I don't usually post at such length on Reddit.
Just got this book!
Excited to dive in. The title is rather provocative.
Not sure if you're familiar, but...
>A toxic river divides nineteen-year-old Violet Bates's world by gender.
>Women rule the East. Men rule the West.
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>Welcome to the lands of Matrus and Patrus.
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>Ever since the disappearance of her beloved younger brother, Violet's life has been consumed by an anger she struggles to control. Already a prisoner to her own nation, now she has been sentenced to death for her crimes.
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>But one decision could save her life.
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>To enter the kingdom of Patrus, where men rule and women submit.
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>Everything about the patriarchy is dangerous for a rebellious girl like Violet. She cannot break the rules if she wishes to stay alive. But abiding by rules has never been her strong suit, and when she is thrust into more danger than she could have ever predicted, Violet is forced to sacrifice many things in the forbidden kingdom ... including forbidden love.
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>In a world divided by gender, only the strongest survive...
What about "Slammed In The Butt By Domald Tromp's Attempt To Avoid Accusations Of Plagiarism By Removing All Facts Or Concrete Plans From His Republican National Convention Speech" by Chuck Tingle?
I've never read a harem in LitRPG that wasn't flawed and seldom read one that even seemed to try. They tend to be rather lazy paint-by-the-numbers and not even hot.
The best harem I ever read in the genre was the hero's father's harem in the sort-of LitRPGish Isekai Transcendental Misappropriation. I liked that they established harems as a thing in this world before the hero getting one, and liked the exploration of how the harem interacted in everyday life. When the hero got his own harem later in the book things went down hill.
As far as non-LitRPG books,I kind of liked the harem in A Brother's Price. They managed to twist things so the harem was not a manifestation of the hero's strength but of his weakness.
We only saw it briefly, but I liked the idea of the harem in The Broken Crown. The guy in the harem wasn't a character, and the protagonist cared more about her co-wives then her husband. A neat twist, but not what most people here are looking for.
The harem in Savage Divinity never remotely feels like a real relationship or "hot", and is usually annoying, but the author at least gives the members of the harem actual distinct personalities.
As far as what is hot...The reverse harem in the Merry Gentry series was sort of fun. I liked Heinlein's harems in his Lazarus Long books but that may be because I read them when I was going through puberty.
I'm hesitant to mention this one, because it's really more erotica, but the Pykh books at least did something new, and developed the characters more then most LitRPG novels do. (Three people captured by more advanced aliens strike up a relationship without really understanding each other or being entirely clear on each other's genders. It's better then it sounds. But then, it would have to be. It also comes closer to being a healthy relationship then most LitRPG harems... )
Really? Well, Amazon gives free samples. Just keep in mind that they're also kissing books. :)
I'm doing this thing where I'm reading multiple books at the same time. They're all re-reads, because a lot of my recent books have been Meh. So I'm re-reading x4:
The Penal Colony by Richard Herley. Prisoners sent to an island colony and have to survive on their own wits. They actually made a film based on the book starring Ray Liotta. It's a really good book, but a bit dated sometimes.
A Long Way Home to a Small Angry Planet by Becky Chambers I love this book so much. It's a ScI fi book that is actually about interacting with each other. It's just soooo good. It has an alien love story, which sounds weird, but it plays out so realistically that you won't even care. Great characters and exciting storyline.
Fortune's Rock by Anita Shreve. Ugh, this book? I love it so much. Her writing is up and down but this book is so complex and amazing.
And of course, I have to recommend the best series ever. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Until-End-World-Book-ebook/dp/B00DX73ZPY
Adrian Tarn Series is definitely one of my favorites and isn't very well known. Definitely check this series out.
Odyssey One Series is pretty good.
Confluence Series is interesting.
Aurora Rhapsody Series is a good series too.
Dark Space Series is pretty decent as well.
The Frozen Sky Series is certainly entertaining too.
These are a few series I've read recently and enjoyed. Figured they would be good suggestions. They also aren't the most commonly suggested or well known books like the others that were suggested.
Although the other recommendations are definitely ones you want to read. Especially the Ender's Game sequels and the Old Man's War series.
September:
Princess Tamer 4: A LitRPG Harem Adventure Neil Bimbeau 2018/9/1 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H1SH4N4
Kingslayer 2: Part I Niko Crane 2018/9/1 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H1RQQ8V
Coast on Fire: An Apocalyptic LitRPG (The System Apocalypse Book 5) Tao Wong 2018/9/1 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GT69BBL
Kingslayer 2: Part II Niko Crane 2018/9/2 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H25WXSP
Office Wars: Lab Coats Optional James Patton 2018/9/3 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H2WHH8X
Kingslayer 2: Part III Niko Crane 2018/9/3 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H2W1DL1
The System: A Futuristic Dungeon Core (The Laboratory Book 8) Skyler Grant 2018/9/3 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H2W6PQ8
Trapped in a Video Game (Book 3): Robots Revolt Dustin Brady and Jesse Brady 2018/9/4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FK9WKHF
Lewd Kingdoms: Midnight War: A High Fantasy Digital Adventure Eden Redd 2018/9/4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H3L5ZMT
Limitless (Project Chrysalis Book 4) John Gold and Jared Firth 2018/9/4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G28J3JF
Kingslayer 2: Part IV Niko Crane 2018/9/4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H3PFS8T
Nightmare Keep (Euphoria Online Book 2) Phil Tucker 2018/9/4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GQ7LSQ3
Roguelock: A LitRPG Adventure (The Wayfarers Book 1) Red Culver 2018/9/4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H3XQPGX
Into the Black: Book XIV: Back to Basics Stuart Grosse 2018/9/4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H43C1D8
Hero Time: a LitRPG novel (Metagamer Chronicles Book 3) Xavier P. Hunter 2018/9/4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G9VPZQ5
HaremPunk - Part One: A Cyberpunk LitRPG Harem Adventure David Belwick 2018/9/5 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H4TZ1KZ
Kingslayer 2: Part V Niko Crane 2018/9/5 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H4JM57F
Rules-Free VRMMO Life: Volume XV: To the Abyss Stuart Grosse 2018/9/5 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H4BLFPK
Kingslayer 2: Part VI Niko Crane 2018/9/6 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H5LW4J5
Merchant System: Growing Stronger While Getting Rich Cobyboy 2018/9/7 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H6P35M8
Accidental Dragoon: Book 3 in a LitRPG Swashbuckler Trilogy (Accidental Champion) Jamie Davis and C.J. Davis 2018/9/7 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GT74BV5
Tear it Up: A Gamelit Harem Space Thriller (Psychobitches Book 1) Jamie Hawke 2018/9/7 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H6L7T5Q
Kingslayer: Part VII Niko Crane 2018/9/7 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H6K7DCW
Wild Wastes Omnibus Edition Randi Darren and William D. Arand 2018/9/7 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H6NJG9B
Rusty Mom Bone (Caverns and Creatures) Robert Bevan and Joan Reginaldo 2018/9/7 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H6SQGPB
The Song Mistress: A LitRPG Journey (Uniworld Online Trilogy Book 2) Jonathan Brooks 2018/9/8 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GVTP6FP
Kingslayer 2: Part VIII Niko Crane 2018/9/8 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H72H8ST
Supers - Ex Heroes: A Gamelit Harem Space Opera Jamie Hawke 2018/9/9 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H7PM29Y
Kingslayer 2: Complete Bundle Niko Crane 2018/9/9 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H7SQ1NF
Gods of Myth and Midnight: A LitRPG Novel (Seeds of Chaos Book 3) Azalea Ellis 2018/9/10 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H8FYW81
Traveler's Zone: A LitRPG YA Fantasy (The Revelation Chronicles Book 2) Chris Pavesic 2018/9/10 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GRGNZ8J
Car Wars: Episode 2. Shifting Gears Donovan Cade 2018/9/10 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GVPDF92
Cherry Blossom Girls 4: A Superhero Adventure Harmon Cooper 2018/9/10 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H8JVWR8
Princess Tamer 5: A LitRPG Harem Adventure Neil Bimbeau 2018/9/10 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H7ZH8Z1
Roguelike: A LitRPG Novel Paul Bellow and LitRPG Reads 2018/9/10 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H8MYZ7M
Just when I think I've seen everything...
Apparently Gay Dinosaur Erotica is a thing.
I picked up this book by a fellow /r/fantasy denizen and it sounds quite promising, haven't had a chance to read it yet but I will read it as soon as I can.
Planning to read the Riyria books soon and taking note of the books recommended in this thread, I want to read & review more good indies.
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Good ol' Omegaverse, but in spaaaaace!! Love story about a girl who finds out aliens not only exist but are helping humanity colonize other planets. Her ship bound for Sathion gets attacked by space pirates who call her an "Omega". But she and her friend and fellow captive Mara won't give up on their plans to see Sathion so easily.
Good for any nerdy gals who wanna see some alien love action. Also good for any fans of Omegaverse but aren't into the darker dubcon/noncon aspect. My story is quite tame in that regard.
https://www.amazon.com/Omega-Sathion-Sci-Fi-Omegaverse-Romance-ebook/dp/B07TSYZVLX/
It's a trilogy!
Are you perhaps thinking of Chuck Tingle's 2016 work Slammed In The Butt By Domald Tromp's Attempt To Avoid Accusations Of Plagiarism By Removing All Facts Or Concrete Plans From His Republican National Convention Speech or his more recently published Domald Tromp Pounded In The Butt By The Handsome Russian T-Rex Who Also Peed On His Butt And Then Blackmailed Him With The Videos Of His Butt Getting Peed On?
Similarly, Jennifer Foehner Wells’ Fluency is about a massive object (a seemingly derelict alien craft) discovered parked in the asteroid belt being the priority secret ‘Target’ NASA has worked on getting to for decades. It’s a very good read! Such an awesome ongoing universe as well.
ass science fiction?
Clears are not available in "retail" products except rather exclusive/boutique makers like Ducky, WASD, Max etc. And they have not adopted floating key design like the Chinese makers.
Browns are not too hard, but CHERRY Browns with floating may be a bit harder. Here's something to consider:
Cougar Attack X3 w/ Cherry Browns $80 on Amazon.
Another would be...
Nixeus Moda Pro w/ Kailh Browns $55 on Amazon.
There are quite a few "premium models" w/ floating design coming out of China with Cherry switches instead of Kailh or other switches, but they haven't been exported much. Royal Kludge S-108 is supposed to have a Cherry edition with Browns, and the "coming soon" MagicForce Crystal 108 should have Cherry as well, and thus, browns.
If talking about the Bobiverse books - I loved that series!
If you are looking for something with a light hearted nature like that maybe try out: The Fallen Empire Series by Lindsey Buroker
edit: Book 1 at least seems to be free right now for me too
This is the one. Some other good ones might be Ender's Game, A Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet, and Fluency. Really all depends on what types of book you like to read. I can recommend many!
If Space Raptor Butt Invasion can get at least 40 readers to buy it, anything is possible.
Edit: oh my god, there’s a trilogy
Edit 2: ....apparently it’s actually pretty good? Disturbed and fascinated.
I bought Fluency solely on the strength of it's cover.
Good morning! I've just published my first ebook after about 15 months of working on it.
"Outlive"
Science-fiction/Romance
A story with aliens, action, suspense, love, and death.
Check it out here! [Amazon](outlive https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RJZTFDJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_oyb4Cb2J8EE6V)
Domald Tromp
My book Postdiluvian: The Ancient Chronicle is space fantasy of a sort. It takes place in a universe where antediluvian people off-world at the time of the Great Flood (and therefore not included in its judgment) have built a thriving society spread throughout the galaxy.
Jake Connolly, a Thalani (descendent of postdiluvian earth-people) living off-world, finds himself caught in the middle of the conflict between two warring families, and he discovers how much his history and destiny are tied up with both of them. The Keneraton family seeks his life, and Silorè, great-granddaughter of the Itarlavon patriarch, is sent to rescue him.
Meanwhile Ilavè, leader of the Keneraton, is on the hunt for the Seed of the Atsari—the legendary seed to the Tree of Life. With it she hopes to heal her aged father and restore him as leader of her people in order to seize the Earth from the Itarlavon sworn to protect it.
This is book one in the series, and until 9/12/17 you can get it on Amazon Kindle for free.
It seems like these 3 codes are all interrelated:
https://www.amazon.com/Atlantis-Gene-Thriller-Origin-Mystery-ebook/dp/B00C2WDD5I
https://www.amazon.com/Atlantis-Gene-Thriller-Origin-Mystery-ebook/dp/B007FG9LIE
https://www.amazon.com/Atlantis-Gene-Thriller-Origin-Mystery-ebook/dp/B00L3U9OCG
Oh, I see. Can you usually purchase self-published Kindle books in Singapore? Does this, book, for instance, also show as unavailable?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00L3U9OCG/
EDIT: Looking around this seems to be a common problem for Kindle books published in the UK. If it still doesn't work, PM me your email address and I'll send you a Kindle copy manually.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074WGBPX4
This book looks great! A different take on the zombie post-apocalyptic novel.
Thanks for the contest! :)
Not to be confused with the action-romance Edge of Eon. My... err... friend found out the hard way.
Edge of Eon (Eon Warriors Book 1) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L8KLQH2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_SMPXCbSR4PB9C
Without Bloodshed by Matthew Graybosch (/u/asuraemulator)
>“All who threaten me die.”
>These words made Morgan Stormrider’s reputation as one of the Phoenix Society’s deadliest IRD officers. He served with distinction as the Society’s avenger, hunting down anybody who dared kill an Adversary in the line of duty. After a decade spent living by the sword, Morgan seeks to bid a farewell to arms and make a new life with his friends as a musician.
>Regardless of his faltering faith, the Phoenix Society has a final mission for Morgan Stormrider after a dictator’s accusations make him a liability to the organization. He must put everything aside, travel to Boston, and prove he is not the Society’s assassin. He must put down Alexander Liebenthal’s coup while taking him alive.
>Despite the gravity of his task, Morgan cannot put aside his ex-girlfriend’s murder, or efforts to frame him and his closest friends for the crime. He cannot ignore a request from a trusted friend to investigate the theft of designs for a weapon before which even gods stand defenseless. He cannot disregard the corruption implied in the Phoenix Society’s willingness to make him a scapegoat should he fail to resolve the crisis in Boston without bloodshed.
>The words with which Morgan Stormrider forged his reputation haunt him still.