Best self-inflating camping pads according to redditors
We found 205 Reddit comments discussing the best self-inflating camping pads. We ranked the 68 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
We found 205 Reddit comments discussing the best self-inflating camping pads. We ranked the 68 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
So, I just went through my Amazon orders and pretty much every single thing I saw that I bought for myself I thought was the best thing I ever purchased.
With great pain and strain, I narrowed it down to these three things:
Edited to add links.
I've recently bought a lot of this stuff after doing a good amount of research. Here are my recommendations:
Tent - I would get an Alps tent if you want a good value tent but aren't as worried about weight. How many people will you be going with?
Sleeping Bag - I have this sleeping bag which I absolutely love, but I haven't been able to find it online since I bought it. It packs as small as down sleeping bags but costs a fraction of the price and will still keep you warm in 30 degree weather (which it's done for me).
Pack - I just bought the Osprey Volt 75L which I think is a great value even though I haven't used it yet. I got it for $140 on amazon and the 60L version is less expensive than that. I'm not sure if this pack is bulletproof but it has great reviews and Osprey products are known for their high quality.
Cooking- I use this pot which works perfectly with a pocket rocket. I'm not sure what you mean by fire making equipment but if it's not below freezing or at a high altitude, the gas canisters are the most efficient and reliable way to cook food. Also, they're extremely light. If you're using a fire to cook you'll need a heavier duty pot/pan.
Clothes - I just look for good deals and buy when I find one. Get a good shell that's waterproof and breathable. I have a Marmot Nano AS Jacket that I love. Just make sure you have a baselayer that wicks sweat away and other layers that can pack down. DON'T USE ANY COTTON CLOTHES!
Tools - Other than a knife I have found any tools that are useful for their weight. If you have a solid knife you should be good.
Misc - Here's other things in my list for camping/backpacking:
Sleeping Pad - I use the Alps Sleeping Pad. You definitely need a sleeping pad if you're camping in colder weather for the insulating properties. You'll lose a significant amount of heat through the cold hard ground without a pad. The Alps pad is a little heavier but they're very durable and a great value.
Paracord - It's always useful to have paracord for different things.
Water Filter - You need this if you're going to the backcountry. It's not realistic to bring enough water with you for a weeklong trip. I have use this MSR water filter and the Sawyer Squeeze. The MSR filter costs more, but works very well and is fairly durable. The Sawyer Filter weighs almost nothing, but it's a little more difficult to use and definitely more difficult if you're trying to filter large quantities of water.
Not everyone will agree with everything on my list, but I try to find the best value in my gear. I look for the best value in terms of price, quality, weight, and packability. There are higher quality options that weigh less but cost more. There are other lower quality options that cost less. You'll have to decide what your balance is, but this should be a good list to get you started.
I have this one thats super comfortable:
Lightspeed Outdoors Warmth Series Self Inflating Sleep Camp Pad (3.0) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01F7WEQYG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_4V00Db2A4BC0C
Sharing a bedroom isn't ideal, but as long as there is a bathroom for privacy (and something padded to sleep on, it seems fine for weekends.
You say tent and sleeping pads but have this tagged as Travel. I'm confused...
Why is REI not somewhere you want to shop? They sell quality gear and have educated salespeople.
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Your question is really wide open... Could you provide more details to help us help you?
You don't have to be super specific with answers, but anything helps. Just trying to get an idea of your needs, because the options for backpacking gear are huge.
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The goal is to keep your weight/bulk down. The #1 way to do this is by skipping gear that's unnecessary. While that's hard for someone new, since you don't know what is necessary vs. unnecessary, try hard to skip 'just-in-case' or too many 'luxury' items.
If your full pack weight is under 30 pounds you are doing well, over 50 and you should rethink your approach.
Most new backpackers will require a backpack in the 65 liter range. Fit is important to comfort, so if you could go into a local shop and try on a variety of options - do it.
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I wrote this semi-recently, check it out:
Or check this out from /r/Ultralight:
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If all that is too much... ignore it and go buy this:
There is a lot wrong with this list, so I'm just going to work down it one by one with my thoughts on the matter.
USB flameless lighter? Why? That is going to be unreliable, at best. Throw a few BIC lighters and some stormproof matches in there and be done with it. IF you want to be fancy, get something built to be rugged, that will stand up to use in the field:
https://www.amazon.ca/Ultimate-Survival-Technologies-Floating-Lighter/dp/B00C85NBA6/ref=sr_1_2?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1482173178&sr=1-2&keywords=camping+lighter
Speaking of, I didn't see any sort of firestarting material. Warmth is going to be important, and you need as few steps as possible between you and fire. Get some quality firestarters. I am trying to keep all my links relevant from amazon.ca, so some of the brands I'm most familiar with aren't there. But these work well (though there are options from Wetfire and other brands that take up less space):
https://www.amazon.ca/Ultimate-Survival-Technologies-Fire-Stix/dp/B00C6SHODK/ref=sr_1_20?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1482173338&sr=1-20&keywords=emergency+fire+starter
What is with the mall-ninja "tactical" hatchet? That is a lot of weight and not a lot of utility. You'd be better served with a reliable and lightweight folding saw, and a good full-tang fixed-blade knife. Something like a 7 inch Corona saw:
https://www.amazon.ca/Corona-Cutting-Tools-RS-7041/dp/B00004R9YN/ref=sr_1_1?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1482173467&sr=1-1&keywords=corona+folding+saw
If you insist on carrying a hatchet (and their function in a bugout situation is debatable, especially for the weight) get something quality like an Estwing:
https://www.amazon.ca/Estwing-E24A-14-Inch-Sportmans-Sheath/dp/B00BNQR4SG/ref=sr_1_1?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1482173510&sr=1-1&keywords=estwing+hatchet
Nothing wrong with duct tape, but you'd do well to wrap just maybe 3-4 meters of it around a small core (like from doggy waste bags, or even just around itself).
The self-crank radio/flashlight/phone charger is shit. You also don't need four lights, especially if all of them are crap. Buy one good flashlight, and maybe one good headlamp.
A flashlight like a Nitecore P12 or something that runs on an 18650 and offers long runtime would be ideal. If you buy a diffuser cap for it, you can replace the lantern. Pick up some spare, high quality 18650 cells, as well. The P12 has SOS and beacon modes, which will run for days at a time, in addition to a nice throw and excellent brightness on Medium and High.
https://www.amazon.ca/Nitecore-Flashlight-Lumens-Meters-Distance/dp/B00PQE1D2E/ref=sr_1_2?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1482173859&sr=1-2&keywords=nitecore+P12
As for headlamps, those don't need to be super bright. You want something with enough brightness and floodiness to work around camp. But ideally you also want a red-light or low-light mode for night time, when you don't need to destroy your night vision just because you need to take a piss or something.
https://www.amazon.ca/TACTIKKA-CONSTANT-LIGHTING-HEADLAMP-DESERT/dp/B00GCGIGHK/ref=sr_1_14?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1482173989&sr=1-14&keywords=petzl+headlamp
The powerbank thing in the crank radio is crap, only 1000mah. Not enough to charge most modern smart phones even 25%. Figure that of that 1000mah, ~25% will be lost just due to inefficiency in the charging process. Get a 10,000mah or bigger high quality battery, with 2.1A ports, and be done with it:
https://www.amazon.ca/Anker-PowerCore-Portable-Ultra-Compact-High-speed-Charging-Technology/dp/B0194WDVHI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482173708&sr=8-1&keywords=anker+usb+power+bank
Combine the money you'd spend on the shitty folding knife and the shitty Gerber multitool, and buy a proper multi-tool. You don't need two folding knives.
The Leatherman Wingman is a good value, though I prefer a nicer quality one like the Charge TTi, but at four times the price it may not be worth it just for an S30V blade.
https://www.amazon.ca/Leatherman-2996-831426-Wingman-Multi-Tool/dp/B005DI0XM4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482174264&sr=8-1&keywords=leatherman+wave
Ditch the camp toilet paper, that stuff is like wiping your ass with cardboard. Get some biodegradable camp wipes from an outdoor store. You can now use these to clean your ass, and they also are useful for wiping your hands, or taking whore baths.
Same with the camp soap. Are you bugging out or camping for a week? Nothing you are going to do in a bugout situation is going to necessitate body soap. Toothbrush, floss, deodorant.
Ditch the giant first aid kit full of crap you don't need. Those things are heavy and 80 of the 85 pieces are just different sized bitch stickers. Build your own first aid kit tailored around the likely injuries you would face: sprains, cuts, burns. Maybe throw some Quik Clot Z-pack gauze or a tourniquet (CAT or similar) in there for larger trauma, if that is a concern to you. Limit the bitch stickers to 5-10. All gauze, tape, trauma pads, alcohol wipes, tincture of iodine, moleskin for blisters, tweezers, surgical shears, gloves, maybe burn cream. Small containers of medications you might need: aspirin, antihistamines like Diphenhydramine, anti-diarrheals, etc.
That survival paracord bracelet thing is garbage. You already have 100ft of paracord in your list (which you could probably cut down to 50ft). You don't need some shitty firestarter, whistle, and compass thing. Buy a real lensatic sighting compass. Not going to do you much good without a map and the ability to understand it, anyway.
https://www.amazon.ca/UST-Survival-Essentials-Lensatic-Compass/dp/B005X1YI3Q/ref=sr_1_5?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1482174799&sr=1-5&keywords=compass
You have both a cookset AND a mug/pot. This is extra redundant and not needed in a bugout situation. Stick to food you don't have to prepare. Caloric density is your friend. Jerky, EPIC bars, Clif bars, etc.
If you need to boil water, use a single-wall metal canteen (NOT a thermos). Remove the plastic lid, fill with water, set in your fire. Widemouth canteens like those by Klean Kanteen are multi-purpose (multipurpose is your friend). You can sterilize water, you can cook and eat food out of it (because of the large opening), and you can fill with hot water, wrap in a sock, and warm your sleep system.
https://www.amazon.ca/Klean-Kanteen-Stainless-Bottle-27-Ounce/dp/B0027W6WHE/ref=sr_1_sc_4?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1482174908&sr=1-4-spell&keywords=klean+kanteen+widemouth
You don't need a can opener if you have a good multitool.
Lifestraws suck ass. They only work as a straw, and I am going to guess you don't want to get your water by drinking out of puddles exclusively. Get a Sawyer Squeeze mini filter. This can be used in-line with a hydration bladder, can be used like a Lifestraw, or can be used to filter an fill your water storage containers/bladder:
https://www.amazon.ca/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=sr_1_1?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1482175065&sr=1-1&keywords=sawyer+mini
One seriously lacking area for you is your sleep system. A tarp and a space blanket are not going to keep you functionally warm. You might survive a night, but you won't be useful the next day.
At the BARE minimum, you should get a good, reflective, breathable bivvy sack, like this one from SOL, AND a sleeping pad. A bivvy will reflect heat back onto you, helping with heat lost through convection, but no sleeping bag will help with heat lost through conduction (you touching the cold ground). That is why a sleeping pad is mandatory. I have used the Escape bivvy and the Klymit pad linked here together, and both kept me comfortably warm to about 50 degrees F. Below that, I've had to augment with base layers or jackets, and that still sucked. If you are hoping to sleep in below freezing temperatures, you'll need a properly sorted ultralight sleeping bag.
https://www.amazon.ca/Adventure-Medical-Kits-Escape-Bivvy/dp/B00EVGD0FQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1482175280&sr=1-1&keywords=SOL+escape
https://www.amazon.ca/Klymit-06SVGR01C-Camping-Mattress-Green-Grey/dp/B007RFG0NM/ref=sr_1_1?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1482175199&sr=1-1&keywords=sleep+pad
Other recommendations of mine would be to take survival, medical and foraging guides and put them on a smartphone, along with a GPS mapping software and pre-downloaded offline topographical maps at 1:24k resolution of your main bugout areas and 1:100k resolution elsewhere. Something like Gaia GPS for iOS or Backcountry Navigator Pro for Android:
I used this sleeping pad for two weeks and I slept like a log every night. Also a side sleeper.
There is a 4-season version that is also on sale today.
Thermarest NeoAir Xtherm regular is currently on sale for $169.99 on Amazon right now!
Is this better?
https://smile.amazon.com/Klymit-Static-Lightweight-Sleeping-Green/dp/B007RFG0NM
deals end in 4 hours
Truth. I've backpacked for years with a $100 Kelty tent - heavy rains and wind no problem - and a $100 Marmot bag. Somewhere around 2005 it suddenly became easy to get good, cheap outdoor gear. It's not ultralight, but it's close enough.
The pad is a different story. Until recently you had to spend big to get something comfortable and reliable. Now that Thermarest has competition, prices have been halved. Our Klymits have lasted many nights outside with no problems, and I see great reviews for similar pads at half the price.
REI's Backpacking Tips for Beginners is a good place to start.
https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/backpacking-beginners.html
You'll notice the first section is "Find an Experienced Partner". While this sub and others can give you a lot of advice, it's not a substitute for a partner who knows what they're doing. That doesn't mean you can't just go out and "wing it"... if you do, don't bite off more than you can chew. Better to take a few shorter overnights just to get used to things before heading out into the backcountry and having an epic. And I think you need a permits for Yos/Mammoth, so better look into that.
The REI list discusses shared gear and personal gear. Most likely an experienced partner is going to already own a tent, stove, cookware... but if it's just two of you with no gear, you'll have to pick up both shared and personal gear. How you want to split the cost is up to you.
The checklists are nice... but before you go out and buy everything on the list, make sure you will actually need them. Start with the basics; tent, bag, pad, pack, headlamp, FAK, maps & compass, stove, pot, utensils, shoes and clothing... and then go from there.
Here's the REI backpacking checklist:
https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/backpacking-checklist.html
It's comprehensive, but remember you don't need everything on the list. It's pretty common for a beginner to go out and spend way too much money, and then start leaving stuff home as they find they don't need it on the trail.
REI is a great place to spend (a lot of) money. They've got very nice gear, and a great return policy if the gear doesn't work for you... but you'll pay full retail if you just walk in and buy the gear. With a membership, all full price items return 10% to you at the end of the year so it's not too bad, and they have seasonal 20% off coupons which do help. It's a good place to pick up a pack since they can help getting you one that fits, which goes a long way to a comfortable hike. Ditto with shoes, and you can try out mattress pads and see what's comfortable for you.
You can buy other things elsewhere like Amazon... but it's recommended that you go to a gear shop to try on packs (and buy it there to support the store).
Here are a few recommendations:
Pack - Gregory and Osprey are often recommended. For a beginner, 50L-60L is a good size. Don't get a 70L pack, you'll just end up bringing more gear than you need. Try the pack on, load it up with weights, and make sure it fits and carries well. Sometimes the REI packs will fit you better than others... if that's the case get the REI (and save a few bucks).
Tent - Huge range of products here. The Lynx is a decent starter tent for the cost. It'll probably last a few years, and by then hopefully you'll have more money and more experience and get something you like better.
Sleeping bag - If you can afford a down bag, that's great, they're lighter and pack smaller than synthetic bags. The Kelty Cosmic 20 is a good bag for the price.
Pad - Look at the basic inflatables (keep in mind the R-value if you're thinking of going later in the season) like the Thermarest ProLite. Some stick with foam pads like the Thermarest Z Lite pad to save money. Try them out and see what you like.
Stove - The MSR PocketRocket is ol' reliable. Lot of people have them, but the new MSR PocketRocket 2 is more compact and lighter. There are some cheap (< $15) stoves on Amazon, the Etekcity and BRS 3000T... people have been using them but they're small and more suited to people who are just boiling water for dehydrated meals rather than those who actually cook.
Cookset - Don't spend money on a 12 piece cookset...they're cool, but at some point you'll probably figure out you only need a shared pot and a mug for each person. And maybe a small fry pan. Depends on what you want to eat out there. Anodized aluminum is light and sturdy, but more expensive than other options. Titanium is super light, but doesn't disperse heat well so it's great for boiling water, but not so much for cooking non-liquid meals. Stainless steel is heavy but will last many years.
Spork - so many sporks out there... long handled spoons work better for getting food from the bottom of a packet.
Headlamp - Get a decent headlamp. Black Diamond Spot is a nice one, Petzl makes some nice ones as well.
Good luck!
I have a Klymit Insulated Static V. Was on sale for $45 on an Amazon deal of the day once so I picked it up. Pretty happy with it. Not sure what an additional 150 would bring to the table other than perhaps less weight or more insulation.
the model you linked is not only super heavy, but I doubt would get you near comfortable. you will also need to pair either bag with matching r value ground insulation. for instance a pad like this
https://www.amazon.ca/KLYMIT-Insulated-Static-Camping-Orange/dp/B00ANRW7DI/ref=sr_1_1?s=sports&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1494229667&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=klymit+insulated+static+v THis is a huge mistake many people make. The ground insulation is paramount.
The model below is a better option.
https://www.amazon.ca/Sports-TrailHead-Ultralight-Sleeping-Orange/dp/B007JTLKCC/ref=sr_1_1?s=sports&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1494229515&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=teton+sleeping+bag
It's also better to NOT compress your bag. Line your pack with a trash compactor bag, push the sleeping bag into the bottom of your pack. Not in a stuff sack.
https://youtu.be/J1UZvwPnA_o
I love my Klymit. The thing folds up to the size of a Nalgene bottle and is way more comfortable than you'd expect. I'm 5'10, 190lbs and like to sleep on my side and sleep great on this.
Other alternative (which is decidedly NOT convenient and is bulky, but is insanely comfortable if you're going car camping or using it stationary in your apartment and don't need to lug it around) is getting a memory foam mattress like this. I pull this out when friends crash at my apartment and they have all raved about how comfy it is. It's also great for cold weather camping, since the foam is a great insulator. I had this one on a trip that got down to 37 overnight and it kept me super toasty.
You're so thoughtful for putting all this together for her! The quality of your sleep has the biggest impact on the quality of your experience, IMHO, and a good air mattress makes all the difference. I use this model, which rolls up small, is lightweight, and is surprisingly cushy for how compact it is. I highly recommend it! Also, if she doesn't have them yet, you could get her some legit disposable earplugs and a comfortable sleep mask. A tent fan would be bomb, too, but I haven't found one that's worthwhile yet.
Beyond sleeping accoutrements, depending on her style, you could get her body glitter, body paint, metallic tattoos, body/face gems, funky sunglasses, a bubble necklace, a pipe bracelet, spoon jewelry, iridescent wings, light toys, a hooded leotard, flowy pants, etc. Big emphasis on the depending on her style part. There are as many different looks as there are people in the forest. Happy gifting!
FWIW, I am around 250 and 6'1" and I bought a Klymit Static V Insulated for less than $60 new and when I'm on my side my hip and shoulder don't touch the ground. Its R-Value is 4.4 vs 5 for the StoS, so real close. I have nothing bad to say about the Klymit air mattress- its sturdy, lightweight, and packs smaller than a water bottle. I even bought the non-insulated version for summer camping.
I absolutely love Sea to Summit stuff like dry sacs, pack covers, sleeping bag liners, and pillows, but I couldn't imagine spending that much on an air mattress when one half the price is fantastic.
This time of year you can get away with a cheaper -4C sleeping bag, but if you have a little extra coin, get a better one.
A compression sack for the sleeping bag.
These are good mattresses.
Bring a light coat. This can double up as a pillow at night.
If you plan on cooking anything, a pocket stove and a fuel canister, and a 1L stainless steep pot. Spoon or fork (I just cook dehydrated food).
A tent with a fly.
Headlamp.
Bear spray and small air horn.
A few pairs of socks and underwear.
Baby wipes.
Ziplocks for trash. Toilet paper. Ideally a bear canister.
Toque, long johns, pair of sandals.
Food.
50' of parachord.
Light clothes that are NOT cotton.
Cook a very decent distance away from your tenting area, and clean a good distance away from your tenting area. Avoid strong smelling food. Know what a bear hang is and learn how to use it if it's available.
I have the Klymit Static V. Better than a foam pad. Packs down small. Within your budget. https://www.amazon.com/Klymit-Static-Lightweight-Sleeping-Green/dp/B007RFG0NM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1499701452&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=klymit+static+v
My "go to" is my Exped SynMat 7. Packs small. Very comfortable. Built in pump. But outside your budget but worth the money IMO. https://www.amazon.com/Exped-SynMat-Sleeping-Terracotta-Long/dp/B0018MC976/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1499701508&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=exped+mat
I'm doing my first camp in a long time next week with the scouts too. We are in Utah, but expect 30s overnight.
I am taking a cot, with an insulated sleeping pad, and a 0° bag. My son is fine in his 0° bag in a hammock, he's done a few at this temp without being too cold (even without an underquilt or pad).
I'm also a side sleeper, and feel too tight in mummy bags. I picked up a Teton Sports Polara bag, it was a little cheaper a month ago when I bought it. It's really nice. I tested it out with the cot and insulated pad, and it was very comfortable. It has a built in fleece liner that won't get all twisted because it clips and zips into the bag. They unzip fully, so you can get 2 and make a double bag. You can remove the fleece liner for warmer weather.
I will also be trying out an inflatable pillow for between my legs instead of a body pillow.
Check with your local REI store, see if they have a garage sale between now and the camp. You can get lots of stuff at about 70% off. I got my insulated stratus pad for $20 that's normally $100. Klymit makes a decent one that's well reviewed on Amazon and cheap.
Because I am rusty with camping, and getting involved with the local scouts, I will be camping more in the future, but have little to no supplies. I'm building my new supplies now. I have been reading a lot of Outdoor Gear Lab reviews, I like their reviews, they compare different brands instead of just reviewing one product at a time. That's what lead me to the Polara sleeping bag. They also usually have a budget pick.
You got this. Start sneaking the things that matter to you into the truck you want to take so long as your wife won't notice (i.e. put the tarot deck you like in the glove box). It's not much but it will feel like something.
One trick I've heard from people who voluntarily lived in their cars was that they joined a cheap 24 hour gym so they could shower. When you're ready to leave, check Good Will for secondhand camp gear if you need it. If you want to splurge, this is the one I used at a music festival. It was great.
If you feel like putting down roots on the east coast and need a safe place to park, give me a buzz.
The ground is turf on top of concrete, it’s bearable, but I HIGHLY recommend getting a camping style sleeping pad. You can get a foam one that folds really easily for less than $30 bucks. If your budget is higher and you want an actual camping inflatable mattress, you can find decent ones for under $60 that you can use to camp outdoors as well. I’ll link some here in a bit.
Edit: (These two that I am linking are decent, but I’m sure you can find a better deal if you search. Either a cheaper or higher quality pad for the same price) Foam pad
Air pad
Yeah! a fold up memory pad from amazon!
edit: looked up more options! "Cot pad" "sleeping pad"
And THIS looks perfect!!!
It seems to be $53 on Amazon and $60 for your link? Am I looking at a different one?
Hey! I was in that general are too up until recently. I'm no mold expert but I can only suggest my own setup, which may come across as a non-answer, but I don't sleep on a mattress: I sleep on an inflatable air mattress, like for hiking (this one specifically). Super minimalist but for whatever reason I feel comfier than on big real mattresses. I haven't had mold/mildew problems with that inflatable mattress, mainly because…there's no 'inside' really for the mold spores to cling to, and if it gets dirty it's super easy to disinfect the outside of and just wipe down.
If you're a big-bed sort of person, there are definitely bigger (like full-sized) inflatable mattress options out there. I also like mine because with limited space, I can roll it up and stow it every morning and basically have loads of floor space back
So that's an option
This one has treated me extremely well, being that I'm an ultra light fan, that it's comfortable enough, pretty sturdy, packs tiny, and the price is great: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007RFG0NM/ref=abs_brd_tag_dp?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Self Inflatable Air Pad - So much better than sleeping on the tent tarp / yoga mat.
Handheld Water Misting Fan - The most popular item at my tent the past couple of years. Put a few small ice cubes and water for a refreshing cool down.
https://www.amazon.com/Klymit-Static-Lightweight-Sleeping-Coyote-Sand/dp/B00BZ3C900/ref=sr_1_1?s=outdoor-recreation&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1468332134&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=Klymit+Static
That sleeping pad is a really great entry level pad. You won't regret it.
Sleeping pad
Sleeping bag
Tent
It’s honestly mind boggling how much new gear comes up anytime you search “ultralight ____” on Amazon in the past year or so. Most of it is from unknown companies but there are plenty of favorable reviews from people claiming to be seasoned campers.
I haven’t checked any of it out yet nor have I met anyone out in the wild using this stuff, but I’m really optimistic about the emerging affordable backpacking gear market. I totally understand wanting to save and spend more on quality gear, but I think the high price point of this hobby can come off as elitist and deter some people from ever getting into backpacking in the first place.
Hey all. Relatively new to the ultralight scene, but have been trying to go lighter weight over the last few years. Will probably still be a while before I'm true ultralight (6lbs for the big 4?), but my current plan would have me at 7-7.5 lbs for the big 4. Was curious about your input / any suggestions for improvements:
Overall, $350/7.4 lbs for the big 4. I definitely know there's room for improvement and I will probably be replacing things as I can afford it. The most obvious place for improvement is the bag, but I'd actually bought one for my wife as a temporary hiking bag for our first hike-in camp together but we ended up both really liking it. It's comfortable and for $27 it was hard to pass up, especially as it has all the compartments I like in a hiking bag (i.e. access to the bottom section for the sleeping bag). Welcome to criticisms and suggestions.
Nice, I sort of did something like this where I rode with a semi truck starting at the same station. I rode faster so I got way ahead of him but would have to stop every 100 miles to fill my tank, where he would pass me, and then I would catch back up, wave, pass him again, over and over for about 500 miles.
Noticed your sleeping pad, these are much nicer to sleep on and take up the same amount of space. I've had one for the last 7 years and love it.
Those are the poles, I actually edited my reply, perhaps while you were typing out yours.
I cant really say anything about the tent, you will have to trust the reviews. It still looks a bit heavy at almost 7lbs but with your budget I am not sure how much better you can do. You would need to bump up to probably close to $200 just for the tent. (For example: my wife and I took the marmot limelight 3 person tent out and it weighs in at just under 7lbs, I still felt it was really heavy splitting the cost.)
That sleeping bag has actually been debated recently. For the price it is hard to believe the claimed rating, there are concerns that it wont be warm enough. If you do go with that one you might want to try it out somewhere close to home/car first if you can.
I don't have a lot of experience with specific sleeping pads but the klymit static V insulated is a pretty popular budget option and has a 4.4 r value. It is currently $55. Its comfortable enough , my wife used that one when we went out.
If you happen to be near an REI check and see if they are having a members garage sale on December 1st, many locations are. They can have some huge discounts on gear, you just have to be careful before you buy as there are no returns. I got a 3.4lb 2 person tent for 60% off and the REI magma 10 sleeping bag for 50% off. The prices might be a little more than your current budget but you can really find some awesome prices on quality gear. If you aren't already a member it will be $20 to join (lifetime membership).
Klymit Static V Lightweight Sleeping Pad, Green/Char Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007RFG0NM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_2elDCbPHNFCCB
Since weight isn't your biggest concern, I have a Klymit insulated static V and while not the lightest it's very reasonably priced compared to an Xtherm and comfortable at 2.5" thick. Currently going for $52 on Amazon, R value 4.4 and 25 oz, or the 'lite' version which is 19 oz and going for $75
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ANRW7DI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_kcBwyb9FMZQG5
I like the idea/design, but I'm a cheapass.
I found this for cheaper KingCamp DELUXE DOUBLE Self-Inflating Camping Pad
Anyone have experience with it, or see any issues with it?
It just so happened that a lot of Eureka stuff was on sale at the time I was shopping, so I look like something of a fanboy.
> all this.. Can you link to a sleeping pad? I'm assuming its not the same thing as an air mattress.
This is what i currently use, Klymit Static V Insulated
But i have also used just a reflective sun shade for large trucks.
What is the weather and expected temps for where you are going.
I'm just going to drop in and advocate approaching backpacking with the ultralight philosophy. The key principle behind ultralight is to bring only what you need for any given trip and, ideally, nothing more.
Now I'm not saying don't pack things that will add value to your trip, but one of the biggest pitfalls to backpacking is packing in your fears. When people first start, they often bring excessive amounts of clothing, safety gear to outfit an expedition company, more entertainment than one might realistically want or use, or an entire kitchen - sink included. However, most people will discover that if they can lighten the load on their shoulders, they will end up enjoying trips much more. It's best to consider what you need (or even what can be shared in this instance!) - e.g. sharing shelters, cook systems, entertainment, food. Clothing-wise as long as you have an insulating layer (fleece or down jacket) and a rain jacket, and you're more than likely good to go.
So with all that in mind, let's talk about gear more specifically. If you're just getting started, it's best to borrow gear if possible. Sans that option, trying cheap gear is totally reasonable. However as with any hobby, there can be massive differences your random Amazon gear and even the bottom-of-the-barrel hobbyist gear. If you expect you'll want to pursue backpacking more in the future, consider looking into the ultralight and ultracheap gear list recommendations as well as the alternative options.
Since we're looking at coastal trips in California, you can safely estimate lows to be no lower than 40° unless you're truly up in the mountains. Sleeping pad-wise I'd recommend either an inflatable like the Klymit Static V or a CCF pad like the Z-Lite Sol or RidgeRest. I hesitate to recommend an ultralight quilt for a first-timer due to cost, but for reference a 30° HammockGear Econ Burrow weighs 18.62 oz, whereas the one OP linked weighs ~4 lbs.
There's a lot more to be said than what I've mentioned, so I invite y'all to check out /r/ultralight for more discussions on ultralight philosophies and gear. The wiki is a tremendously helpful resource as well. If any of you want a pack shakedown to have someone look over your gear list, feel free to reply or DM me, and I'll try to get back to you when I can. I'll most likely either be out in Texas or climbing Shasta for the weekend this trip will be planned, but have fun out there!
Also paging /r/ulnorcal - /u/Sharp_LR35902 /u/id3550
My personal one here it works great I’ve used it well over year and always sleep great while using it.
It would be better to get a self-inflating camping pad. They roll up small and light, they self inflate, they insulate you from the ground better, and they are far more comfortable than foam.
Pretty much the standard in backpacking pads for a while now, with brands like Therm-a-Rest. I've had the same pad for 15 years, up Mt. Washington and all over the place, and not a single complaint.
Probably not, unless you have something to insulate you from the ground. You need a sleeping pad, and not just a regular air mattress. Something that is specifically designed to keep you warm when sleeping on the cold ground. Sleeping pads are usually rated by an "r-value". The higher the "r-value", the warmer it should keep you. There are cheap foam pads to very expensive inflatable pads. Doesn't look like you're form the US, so I am not sure how hard it would be to get your hands on a Klymit Insulated Static V, but they're pretty affordable, comfortable, and warm. They're not great for backpacking but they are great for car camping.
I see this pad recommended on this sub and /r/ultralight fairly often for a 4-season setup. Certainly not the lowest price ever according to CamelCamelCamel, but it's a good deal this time of year if you're looking for a pad for this winter. I assume they're price matching BackCountry, so that's a good place to buy as well if you don't have Prime or are anti-Amazon.
If you don't need much warmth, the cheap pads on Amazon ([1] (https://www.amazon.com/Sleepingo-Camping-Sleeping-Pad-Backpacking/dp/B07FP4Z3RZ/), 2) will get the job done. They're light and decently comfortable; very similar in construction to the uninsulated klymit static V, just off brand and a little cheaper. Wouldn't recommend pushing them much below ~45-50 on their own (supplementing with a light ccf is always an option to push them a little further).
If you need a little insulation, the insulated static V is a good budget option. Or if you're comfortable enough on CCF then you've got plenty of cheap options.
https://www.amazon.com/Lightspeed-Outdoors-Inflating-Sleep-Green/dp/B01JN5JGGQ
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Don't spend more then you have too. Best bang for your buck. I'm a side sleeper and have had zero issues with this.
Any thoughts on this one: KLYMIT Insulated Static V Camping Pad
I also have the Klymit Static V and can't recommend it enough. It's light and packable, has a 4.4 r-value, inflates in <15 breaths, and is genuinely comfortable.
You can also get great deals on them if you look. I think I paid $40 for mine, which ain't too shabby.
I got this ALPS Mountaineering sleeping pad from amazon. Its self-inflating and very reasonably comfortable. A 12v fan is also nearly essential for muggy summer nights. Lastly, these window socks are awesome in that they let you keep your windows down without bugs getting in.
I found one on amazon for $35 as well. Hope this helps.
Klymit 9005496 Static V Lightweight Sleeping Pad, Coyote-Sand https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BZ3C900/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_p0kuDbJ1CPHSJ
I am looking at some budget pads like the Trail Scout or the Klymit V Lightweight. Sounds like the consensus so far is manual. Might wait until I can afford a better manual one.
Yes they are off my list because I ended up purchasing them. The pad was the [Klymit Static V](Klymit Static V Lightweight Sleeping Pad, Green/Char Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007RFG0NM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_kesFxbNDWCCR4) and the bag was the [Teton Trailhead 20](TETON Sports TrailHead 20F Ultralight Sleeping Bag, Orange/Grey https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007JTLKCC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_dgsFxbG1YRZ7S). I wasn't feeling the quality of the Teton bag so I ended up returning that. Never used it on the trail but laying in my bed with it I didn't like the feel of the fabric. That's one thing that I'm going to put more money into. As for the pad though it's awesome. Took my sickly lungs about 20 breaths to blow up but it works well. It definitely doesn't need to be pumped up as tight as an air bed. Good quality item there that o would buy again.
>I have 50ft of paracord, which was actually the smallest amount that company sold it in. I suppose I could cut it down.
50 ft is probably fine. It looked like a lot more from the picture for some reason.
>Won't sleeping mats add a lot more weight?
Not really.
Camping self inflating sleeping pad. The thin ones can be bought for $30 at Walmart. 6ft long, and they're slippery enough you can slide up and down them on your back.
They're designed to keep you off of the ground/ rocks while tenting, but work great for outside automotive. A buddy of mine always keeps one in his work's service truck.
Never used this one, just an example.
https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Sleeping-Self-Inflating-Camping-Pillow/dp/B00BF9IYO4?crid=1PZDAJX87LOTW&amp;keywords=tent+mattress&amp;qid=1536680184&amp;sprefix=tent+mat&amp;sr=8-4&amp;ref=mp_s_a_1_4
The ursack seems appealing. Do you know if that cuts it on a camp that requires a bearcan? Thats the only reason I bought one otherwise I always just tie my food. Honestly im pretty disappointed in myself for making the purchase without reqlizing the size but this is the pad :
Lightspeed Outdoors Warmth Series...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01F7WEQYG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
R value of 9.8 and a cheap price made me jump but the size is absurd. After spending heavy on the bag and bear can I was ready for that deal, the pads amazing. But you could almost just keep it in your truck as a bed for the back.
I use an insulated sleeping inflatable pad with a 0 degree mummy style sleeping bag. I slept in 30 degree weather snugged as a baby. That pad in the hammock literally makes it a better sleep than my bed at home. ;)
23 inches wide with a 2.1 r-value. 14.5 ounce at 75 inches. 40 bucks.
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https://www.amazon.com/Sleepingo-Camping-Sleeping-Pad-Backpacking/dp/B07FP4Z3RZ/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1VKHK9OF42HLA&keywords=ultralight+sleeping+pad&qid=1557967400&s=gateway&sprefix=ultralight+sl%2Caps%2C185&sr=8-3
I have the Lynx 2 person tent and like it.
The Lynx 1 person also looks like a fantastic option.
Only thing I don't like is their performance in the wind. If the wind hits the sides it'll blow into you a little but if you are not in a field you should be more than fine.
Are you trying to put your bike into it too? I just ran a chain around a tree and through the bike and then ran one of the tents supports through and made it supported by the bike so noone could remove it while I was sleeping.
Here is something that kinda includes your bike but it's not going to shield your bike if that's what you want.
My personal recommendation is to go with one of the lynxs and then use the rest of your budget for a decent flashlight/lantern, and a sleeping pad.
This is my sleeping pad and while nice, I would recommend getting something a little bigger because I would roll on the edges pretty frequently.
I am old and fat, I like a lot of squish, and most of the time we are camping in the desert.
We have the old version of the Neo Air. It is good for car camping and backpacking. Coupler kit
We also have an old Dreamtime for car camping that has served us well over the years. It has a built in coupler.
This year we upgraded to Exped MegaMat 10 LXW. It is well worth the money. We camp 2+ months out of the year. And this mat should last 7+ years. So for us it is a good investment.
The guys over in /r/CampingGear would get mad if I didn't mention the Klymit Static V. It is dirt cheep compared to everything I have recommended. And they make a Double V
The best thing you can do is go to a store and try them out.
One more thought, if you are car camping you don't need sleeping bags. A set of flannel sheets and a cheep comforter will keep you just as warm.
Since you've mentioned that you are a complete novice, I would recommend sticking to car camping until you're more experienced. Having said that, a tent and sleeping bag and sleeping pad will be a good first investment.
I have a Wenzel Alpine tent. Certainly not the highest-end tent on the market, but it has served me very well.
I also have an ALPS Mountaineering self-inflating sleeping pad.
These should fit your budget nicely and be an excellent entry point into camping for you.
Any generic sleeping bag will be OK to start out with, just be sure its temperature rating fits the environment in which you plan on camping.
I know it's not freezing out, but keep in mind your layering. I'm a cold weather wimp (from Arizona) that likes winter camping and my big takeaway is dress in layers. Sweatpants under a pair of waxed canvas work pants will keep you toasty all night long no matter who you are. Don't get an air mattress because there's too much air to heat up so you'll always be sleeping on a bed of cold air. Get a good inflatable mattress pad. (Hell, a cheap one with good reviews will do, like this.. )
Thanks for the advice! What do you think about the following setup:
ALPS Mountaineering Lightweight Series Self-Inflating Air Pad and
Therm-A-Rest Tech Blanket
I think the inflatable pad is a good idea for both in (and out) of hammock use. The blanket looks to be a pretty good size and won't lie underneath me (destroying the insulating ability).
It even has a snap system to prevent the pad from shifting (I would diy this part). Should I place the pad between the 2 layers on the BB of just lie directly on top of it?
If you're looking for cheap pads, I just bought (haven't gotten it yet) the trail scout on amazon. It's $31 and 14oz for the small- definitely a basic pad, but it has awesome reviews everywhere I looked.
I don’t think you’re taking enough Benadryl is the problem (nsfw)
Real answer: I use this one and it’s treated my back well. Good for back and side sleepers.
I've been very impressed with Fox40 whistles. They are used by referees and are amazing at getting attention.
You don't necessarily need a license for the radios. FRS or CB for example. Besides if only you have a license and radio then how can you talk with the rest of your family?
> And do you have any recommendations on those sleeping pads?
Tons
^_^I've been making a database of sleeping pads for fun.The least expensive compact pads that people seem to like are made by Outdoorsman Labs. This is their most compact. Though for a few dollars more there is the namebrand Klymic Static V. These are both 0.9 liters packed.
The best deal that I know of at the moment is the $30 Eureka Singlis ST. Normally $50. It is a little heavier and bulkier (1.2 liters) but is notable for having a built in pump.
edit: Forgot to mention that Klymit has an ebay store where they sell their refurbished units. The Static V is $40 there.
Love this pad for car camping with my girlfriend. It is a nice double pad for a pretty good price. Pretty comfortable, and very warm. Never had any problems with bottoming out. I am not sure of the availability in Australia.
https://www.amazon.com/KingCamp-DELUXE-Thick-Self-Inflating-Camping/dp/B01D19MJ3C?th=1&psc=1
Check thermarest, this is pretty much already a thing. Thermarest actually self inflates. I have two they are awesome.
http://www.amazon.com/Thermarest-Luxury-Map-Mattress-Blue/dp/B002PW8SBY
sleeping mat ftw i got mine last year and it was beyond comfy https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FELZ3TW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I use the Klymit Static V
While I can't compare it directly to any of the other options here, it packs up very small and is not too expensive. It also has very solid Amazon reviews.
I use this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007RFG0NM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Super light weight, easy to pack, cozy.
That you're camping in Australia reminded me of this recent post in which a blogger recommends this biker-focused swag tent. Seems to be a fair deal and while I have no experience with it the blogger reckons it's a good bit of kit as you Aussies might say ;-). Most likely you won't be borrowing your parent's tent. The car-camping type tents don't really get along well with motocamping. Sleeping bags and maybe the air mattress or sleeping pad are more likely, or a bit of cooking equipment. I'll throw out some random recommendations based on stuff I like and let you decide how it fits into your $500 =).
I find backpacking equipment seems to parallel motocamping equipment in many respects. You aren't as concerned about weight on the motorcycle, but you do need compact and reliable. You may want to consider a backpacker's inflatable sleeping pad, [this is the one I have] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ANRW7DI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1). It's no mattress but it insulates you from the ground which helps keep heat in, and it provides a bit of cushion too. It will fit inside the swag, a hammock, or any compact backpacking tent, and it packs up small. I have this tent which legitimately sleeps two as long as you don't mind being close (tested with my girlfriend) and should fit a twin sized inflatable mattress which would be substantially more comfortable than the camping pad I linked above. To make an addition to your luggage, I can't recommend a tank bag enough. I have this tank bag which is truly a bargain and should fit any motorcycle.
I would also check out Aerostich's Camping Section for some ideas. Being that you're in Australia I'm not sure if you want to buy directly from them unless you can't find an item anywhere but their website, but there are tons of ideas you can get from their store that you might not find other places.
Now I'll just list off several items I can think of that I like to pack for motocamping (most are small and multi-functional items, and a few specific get-my-ass-out-of-a-jam things):
Tire plug kit, some way to put air back in the tire (compact air compressor, CO2 cartridges, bicycle pump, etc), several feet of 550 cord (AKA paracord), extra bungee cords, extra cargo net, zip ties, electrician's tape, heavy-duty trash bags (maybe 3 or 5), a small supplement to my bike's OEM tool kit & a multitool, a first aid kit that includes bug bite relief (and anything else you might want specific to the area you're traveling), a sam splint & triangle bandage, a couple ways to start a fire (waterproof matches stored in a watertight container & a cigarette lighter usually), one or two of those mylar emergency blankets, a little mild dish soap.
You might not feel the need to carry all that on a 3 day trip but a lot of it is small, cheap, and multi-funcitonal. Trash bags are to keep trash under control at camp and emergency waterproofing for gear/people, so you want the thick ones.
>Says original price is $40.00. Walmart has a great return policy.
Go for it, give it a try, if it works for you then that's what matters, but I just wouldn't trust it with my life. The ad states: you'll be cozy even if the temperature drops down to 10 degrees - no you won't, I can almost guarantee that, but I'm sure it'll be fine at 30 which is all you should be asking for with a cheap sleeping bag. Also, 4.55 lbs worries me, I can almost say for certain the materials this thing is made of are going to be the cheapest of the cheap, but once again, if that works for you then who am I to argue.
Same with the sleeping pads, you might find one that works for cheap, but I'd doubt it lasts long and unless you're a light person not be very comfy. As others have said, good camping gear is worth spending more than the minimum but if it gets you out there, then use it and use it as a stepping stone, important thing is having fun but freezing cold is not. Do not use that thing in 10 degree weather, I implore you.
edit: here's the sleeping pad I bought on the cheap and still use today, it works pretty well and is only a few bucks more and has a lifetime warranty. You want to familiarize yourself with R-values, heat retention guild, this one had one of the highest I could find at 3.44: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XRJS4DD/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Model 3 does not have native camper mode as of 2018.42.2 which is what I currently have installed. Also, I went camping when I still had version 8.
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I am about 6ft tall and found it comfortable space wise. Temp/humidity wise it was perfect with the HVAC enabled.
I used one of these in the back seat foot well to sort of extend the surface as I like to sleep on my side with one arm extended out beyond my head:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074SV35KL/
I used this as a sleeping pad. It was very comfortable, but it did slide around due to being kind of slippery. One night I woke up with the lower half of my body off the pad.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007RFG0NM
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This is the best sleeping pad I've ever come across: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007RFG0NM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Feels like I'm sleeping on air.
I'm in North Central Florida and don't find it too warm. They make one that is not insulated if you are worried about it being too warm. http://amzn.com/B007RFG0NM
I have the Klymit Insulated Static V Recon and have been happy with it. I've used it down to about 0c (32f ?).
It's a little less expensive if you don't mind the blaze orange. But overall fairly competitive compared to brands like ThermaRest.
https://www.amazon.com/Klymit-Insulated-Static-Sleeping-Orange/dp/B00ANRW7DI
Check out this comparison of sleeping pads with R values and other stats, it might help you find the right combo for your needs if the Klymit doesn't interest you.
http://sectionhiker.com/sleeping-pad-r-values/
Oh okay, I think I see the one youre talking about. I cant seem to find one for $35, but this is the same thing right?
https://www.amazon.com/Klymit-Static-Lightweight-Sleeping-Green/dp/B00BLIGW2U/ref=nav_custrec_signin?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1485389386&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Static%2BV%2Bair%2Bmattress&amp;th=1
Here’s the one I bought and I love it. It’s a little on the pricy side of them but it comes with a little repair kit and I’ve used it as low as 15-20F comfortably
Awesome report thanks for sharing. As an experienced clothes free camper I advise you invest in a self inflating sleeping pad . Will make your clothes free sleep much more restful next time you go camping.
Wife and I use these teton sport sleeping pads, they have a velcro strip on the side which will attach another teton pad. https://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-ComfortLite-Regular-Inflating/dp/B009L1MSPE/ref=sr_1_40?s=outdoor-recreation&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1468344387&amp;sr=1-40&amp;keywords=sleeping+pad
They have the green Klymit V for $33. Not ultralight per se, but cheap for a pretty decent pad.
Tent $45 (4.5 star rating)
http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Sundome-2-Person-7-Feet-5-Feet/dp/B004J2KDH0/ref=sr_1_2?s=outdoor-recreation&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1397783262&amp;sr=1-2
Sleeping pad $50
http://www.amazon.com/Klymit-Static-Camping-Mattress-Green-Grey/dp/B007RFG0NM/ref=sr_1_6?s=sporting-goods&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1397783385&amp;sr=1-6&amp;keywords=sleeping+pad
Sleeping bag $25 (4 star, rated to 20F)
http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Brazos-Cold-Weather-Sleeping-Bag/dp/B00363V3OK/ref=sr_1_2?s=sporting-goods&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1397783308&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=sleeping+bag
Free shipping on all of it.
You numbers are so full of crap it's embarrassing.
total weight: 12lbs (THAT's where your hammock IS cheaper; weight NOT cost).
EDIT: dyslexiaed a number
Yes an underquilt and top quilt combo takes the place of a sleeping bag. If you already have a sleeping bag unzip 3/4 of the way it and use it like a blanket in place of a top quilt.
I have yet to try out an underquilt, I use this inflatable sleeping pad under me in the hammock.
I also have the yukon outfitters rainfly and I used it last month during a large thunderstorm and torrential downpour and it worked great. You just need to make sure to pitch your tarp pretty low over the hammock because the diamond shape leaves the ends a little more exposed than I'd like.
Wow, fantastic answer. Thank you!
By cheapish I mean all gear for the trip for under about €500.
Re Gear: I couldn't find suppliers for the gear you suggested in Europe and shipping was very expensive from the US so what do you think of these.
Tent
Sleeping Bag
Sleeping Mat
Stove set
with something like this as a bear bag (with rope etc)?
Re Food: Yes there is alot of villeges/towns along the way. However I was looking at this and thought it might be a good idea.. I will look into water purification device as well.
I don't think my budget will extend to a GPS device this time around so a map/compass + smartphone it is!
Sorry for all the silly questions. Your answer the last time helped a lot!
I can't sleep without a sleeping pad and there have been many many times where I was happy to have one. I have the Klymit V. It's not super expensive, it rolls up to about the size of a nalgine and is SUPER comfortable, as well as insulated.
I just bought this: https://www.amazon.com/Sleeping-Pad-Armrest-Pillow-Backpacking/dp/B075Y3SQ6W/ref=sr_1_4?s=sporting-goods&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1523369595&amp;sr=1-4&amp;keywords=self+inflating+sleeping+pad+pillow
I have NOT used it yet, but the reviews seem decent. It isn't the most compact thing in the world, but easily backpack-able. Also, it's cheap so if it sucks I won't really care. It'll just become my tag-alongs' sleeping pad. ;)
We actually went in late March, but Utah had a much colder winter/early spring last year. It got to the upper thirties overnight, and all three hammockers used sleeping bags and inflatable pads for warmth. I personally used a 0-degree Teton Leef bag and insulated Klymit Static V, and slept in thermals, fleece, down vest, and a beanie. I like to sleep warm, haha.
I'm confident enough about the trees that if I had a permit for #5 right now, going just off what I remember, I'd bring a hammock and maybe a bivy sack just in case. I'm like 90% sure it'd be fine. The campsites are beaten down enough that going to ground wouldn't be super difficult anyway. Note, though, that the trees in #4 are pretty low and bendy, so don't be surprised if you wake up on the ground anyway.
BTW I found a blog of someone that camped at #5 but the only picture that says it was taken from the campsite was this one.
edit: you HAVE to go see Kolob Arch; it's amazing.
The Klymit Insulated Static V might be a good option, especially for colder temperatures. I just bought one for an upcoming trip and have tried it out but haven't slept on it yet, but it seems to get a lot of good reviews.
you absolutely want more than a red cross bivy....you can still get a light setup for decent price, and this gear will last you a very long time.
Kelty Salida 1 Tent
Klymit Static V Lightweight Sleeping Pad, Green/Char Black
Kelty Cosmic 40 Degree Sleeping Bag, Regular, Smoke/Dark Shadow
Mirage is a freestanding, isn't it? That's one thing I missed about the Banshee (and Naturehike I linked isn't freestanding either).
I would say tent should be the last thing you upgrade (unless you intend on backpacking), and you're right - start with the pad. Some of the modern ones are insanely comfortable, I'm a picky sleeper and I love S2S one. I also toured for couple weeks with the Thermarest XTherm and it was not bad, but also not nearly as comfortable as S2S.
If you're on a budget consider Klymit pads - here's one that weight 700g, packs very small, and has R value of 4.4 (meaning you can sleep on the snow and it will still insulate you enough). It costs around 50USD
https://www.amazon.ca/KLYMIT-Insulated-Static-Camping-Orange/dp/B00ANRW7DI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1497921003&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=klymit+sleeping+pad
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007RFG0NM/
This is a nice and lightweight, quickly inflated with a few breaths, sleep pad.
What about one of those self inflating camping foam pads? Like this.
Check out Lightspeed. There are two versions. At Costco, they sell for $40 and $100. I have the $40 version and love how wide, plush and warm it is. It's even nicer on a cot, at least if you have a tent big enough for it. It's usually under $40 on Amazon. You do NOT want to bring that pad backpacking. It's super bulky and heavy. For backpacking, I like the Klymit Static V Ultralite SL for cooler weather. They have lots of uninsulated pads for warmer weather. There aren't many pads that weigh as little, pack as small and are in this price range. If you need these cheaper, check out the refurbs on their ebay store.
Yea, "craps table" :P
You guys sound rad! Keep it up. Just a few suggestions in case you haven't thought of them:
Packs up very small, lightweight, super comfy. Because your butt needs a good lounge after a full day of riding. A rock/stump/picnic table doesn't cut it
There is no better mattress for bike camping. It packs down the smallest and lightest. While being 100% comfortable.
Hope that helps!
i wouldnt bother with tent stakes. she will find plenty of those at festivals. Ive never had to use a first aid kit, either... get her something she mightn't have thought of, that she will constantly have to use.
https://www.amazon.com/Klymit-Static-Lightweight-Sleeping-Green/dp/B007RFG0NM?ref_=bl_dp_s_mw_6764188011
these are amazing.
Maybe a hydroflask and/or camelbak if she doesnt already have those things.
flashlight/headlamp.
I have a good eye :)
Apologies for the wall of text, but I tend to ramble on topics that I'm passionate about, hopefully some of the ramble below will help.
Which Inflatable pad do you have, I'm guessing you're a side or stomach sleeper like myself?
I have the Klymit kings static V inflatable pad, I like that it packs really small and it's very light weight, but it's not entirely comfortable for side sleeping or stomach sleeping. I did once camp with my tent on sand and this was comfortable, but on regular dirt it's not.
I then tried the REI camp bed 3.5 self inflating pad. It's a self inflating pad which is a hybrid between a foam and an inflatable. At 3.5" thick, it's incredibly comfortable for side & stomach sleeping, but the drawback is weight (~5lbs) and it does not pack down small, I have to strap it to the outside of my pack.
If you are a similar sleeper like myself, you may want to check out hammock camping. I picked up an ENO double nest for just relaxing around camp or in the back yard at home and found it to be the most comfortable naps I've taken outdoors. While I can't sleep on my stomach, side sleeping is very comfortable and I actually fall asleep on my back which is unheard of. I'm not saying to run out and buy a full hammock camping set up, but maybe at the next REI garage sale, see if there is a really cheap ENO double nest and straps and give it a try in the back yard, you may want to convert afterwards :)
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Headlamps? As in more than one? + a lantern? If I may suggest an alternative / weight savings..... This year I switched over to using a Olight S1 Mini baton because I always hike with a hat and the double clip allows it to slide right on the brim. It's also incredibly light weight and has several light levels. The back cap is also magnetic, so when tent camping, it sticks to the tent poles, for hammock camping I just hang it on the ridge line by the clip. The lowest level is 5 lumens I believe, which is dim but more than enough to see your foot placement on the trail at night. It also has the strobe setting which can come in handy if you find yourself in trouble to disorient an individual or an animal. (your post above mentions the fear of being a solo hiking woman, so this would be a good tool in conjunction with a decent knife). While it doesn't have a red filter, there are tons of youtube videos on how to make your own red filter cap for night vision savings.
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A Camelbak is always a must have for me, I get dehydrated quickly, so I carry the 3L version. I also carry a smart water bottle on the exterior side pocket of my atmos. Reason being is they are significantly lighter than a nalgene or other plastic bottles on the market and they're very very cheap to replace. Also, you can use this bottle for water enhancers such as Mio, crystal light, or a hydration powder, without risking an issue to your Camalbak. I've found having Mio on a trip is a great mental pick me up when it's hot and I'm tired.
I have not used a life straw, but for any overnight or distance trip, a must have for me is my Sawyer filter and 1 squeeze bag. I went with the Sawyer because it will allow me to refill the giant 3L Camelbak with this adapter without digging out the Camelbak, (see the 4th picture down). The squeeze bag is for dirty water only, so I do not have to worry about dirty water contamination with other items. Lastly, with this adapter I don't have to bring the syringe to clean it, this adapter's threads will fit the smart water bottle, or a coke bottle, and allow me to flush out the filter. While I've yet to have to flush it on a trip, it's a good thing to have for after the trip and cleaning things.
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I used to have a few must have items, but recently I've been weeding them out to save weight. Most of them are comfort items and I am the individual who packs with the mindset of "what if this happens.....", so I tend to pack things I rarely use. I really love having a warm meal, so my Jetboil is usually a staple. Since it is a gas burning stove, I could (in a survival situation) use it to boil water or start a fire to keep warm. However, foods can be re-hydrated with cold water, it might take longer and not be as delicious, but it saves the weight of the jetboil and I have the sawyer for clean water anyway, and a small bic lighter is a fraction of the weight, so I've done without it on the last few trips.
I've moved on to the mentality of packing items that are multi-purpose, try to cut out any redundancies to save weight. While I am no where near being considered ultralight, I've started incorporating their ideals into my packing to help out. You may want to check out their subreddit.
My buddy Scott is the one I always go to for questions related to backpacking/ hiking, he's been doing it far longer than I have, and seems to always be ahead on the new gear or techniques. He started a blog recently on his findings and tips/suggestions, it may be worth a look: Hack your pack
Hopefully this ramble helps!
I'm going to cheat, but I think $150 is a reasonable starter budget for the following reason: skip the sleeping bag. You don't need a sleeping bag to go camping. I don't know anyone who chooses to sleep in a bag at home, so I can confidently say that everyone prefers to sleep with a blanket. Sleeping bags are for backpackers who need to maximize warmth for a given size and weight. Just bring a couple of blankets (one light, one warm) and you're good to go camping. Cost: free, comfort: high.
Tent: I own this coleman 3 person tent you can get for $63 on amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000001978-Parent-Hooligan-Tent/dp/B001TSABLA?th=1
This is a great tent with a nice sized vestibule that is very useful in bad weather. Easy to pitch and surprisingly weatherproof (wind and hard rain). It's not the only option, but shows what you can get on the cheap. I think it's best to go somewhat cheap on the tent with a name brand like coleman because it will be relatively reliable and can be repurposed as a 'beater tent' in the future if your friend decides to upgrade. If you don't go with that option, consider the door and rain fly positioning. Many cheap tents don't provide any coverage of the door so entering when it's raining will cause everything inside to get soaked.
Pad: I'd spend the rest of the money on a decent pad. If this is for a single person, a self inflating sleeping pad will be the most comfortable and provide plenty of warmth from the cold ground. A good air mattress can also be had for cheap, but will be very cold without some sort of insulation underneath you (more blankets!). You could opt for used gear here, because really good sleeping pads cost a fair amount of money. Looking at amazon however, there seem to be plenty of self inflating pads for less than $100 that get great reviews like this one (go big and thick for comfort): https://www.amazon.com/Lightspeed-Outdoors-Warmth-Inflating-Sleep/dp/B01F7WEQYG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1492637247&amp;sr=8-5&amp;keywords=self%2Binflating%2Bpad&amp;th=1&amp;psc=1
I don't have this specific one (use an exped megamat), but I think self inflating is the way to go for car camping because of the tremendous amount of comfort it provides relative to purely inflatable options without the foam insert. I just bought an exped megamat double wide and am planning to put up my LXW megamat up for sale on geartrade. If your friend is interested in that, he could get a $250 mat for ~$100 which really is the ultimate in comfort. There may be other good options on geartrade already!
Good luck, always good to hear about people getting into camping
Klymit static v is the best buy of the inflatables
The Z-lite Sol - regular is on sale here is the best buy of the foam pads. Naturehike knockoff
My recommendations on what to look for: Comfort supercedes weight in my opinion. Get whatever setup you need to sleep well. If you are a side or stomach sleeper, I recommend a wide pad. Wide pads start to be a problem when you have to put them side by side in a smaller tent. Warm pad is also helpful. We spend hundreds for a down bag to keep the top and sides of us warm... then spend dollars to keep the bottom of us warm. The problem is in the metrics. R value for pads, vs temp ratings for bags. Pads should be (and easily could be) temp rated like bags. I recommend a warmer/heavier pad for the most versatility because you are most likely to be camping in cold conditions where it matters, more than warm conditions where it doesn't.
For the heavier/taller people or side/roller sleepers this mat is 30inches wide and 76 inches long. It weighs about 2 pounds (ouch) but you might want to add a pound for this comfort range. Klymit static v luxe insulated. It also comes in a lighter uninsulated version.
20 inches wide is not wide enough in my opinion. If you can sleep like a mummy on your back with your arms crossed above you, then 20 inches is fine. Other than that... measure yourself... you'll find you are wider than 20 inches. This will lend you to balancing precariously on your pad.
Looks like a fancier version of a self inflating camping mattress. I have a Thermarest Luxury Map that is surprisingly comfortable. You aren't supposed to store them rolled up, but it does roll up small for transporting.
I'm not sure where you live, but buying gear in Scandinavia will cost a pretty penny. You probably need an ~15F/-10C bag to be comfy (as the weather looks to low around freezing). Else look for a COMFORT RATING around freezing (32F/0C). While a $300+ bag will probably be "better" (by better I mostly mean lighter) you should be able to find something reasonable for quite a bit less assuming you don't live in Scandinavia. Both of the bags you were looking at are from reputable companies, I can't read them (google translate isn't working for the site) but if they are within the ratings above and are acceptable in size/weight they will be fine. Make sure to get a good mat if you don't have one. I recommend klymit. Hope this helps!
I use the Thermarest Trail Scout (regular length) and my husband has the same pad but in long. It has an R value of 3.4 and we find it comfortable, light, and packs down fairly small.
https://www.amazon.com/Therm-A-Rest-6430-Parent-Therm-a-Rest-Trail-Mattress/dp/B00HZ141IO
https://www.rei.com/product/865152/therm-a-rest-trail-scout-sleeping-pad
https://youtu.be/5R9sWvriSrw
Mine was the insulated Klymit Static V and my girlfriend's was the TNH Outdoors pad that was on sale on Amazon. Here are some links
https://www.amazon.com/Klymit-Insulated-Static-Sleeping-Pad/dp/B00ANRW7DI?th=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LEUYJN8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I am same dimensions exactly and a side sleeper, Purchased the Thermarest NeoAir Xtherm Large and sleep great on it. While on back arms fall off, The same in X-Light would probably be similar.
Would you guys recommend one of these instead of memory foam?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LEUYJN8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_RTBYzb1CE7QE0
Just thought I’d chime in here and say if you are looking at getting the klymit static v Amazon has it on sale today for 41 bucks and some change
Klymit Static V Lightweight Sleeping Pad, Green/Char Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007RFG0NM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_4wRTzb65DNP21
A Coleman fleece sleeping bag (basically a thicker liner) from Target/Walmart will give you a little more padding, and significantly more warmth than a sleeping bag liner, but isn't really much better than just sleeping in a jacket. If padding is what you're after, get a Klymit inflatable sleeping pad (there are a bunch of variations like this), which will also serve well outdoors (get the insulated version if you're serious though, at the cost of extra weight). Are you crashing on the floor or a couch? Carpet or wood? For two nights do you need to take something potentially bulky?
Thanks! Yeah I def like foxes, hopefully I haven't gotten too carried away with them, lol. I bought the mat off Amazon HERE It fits perfectly in the space I built and they offer several sizes. I have been using it for 3-4 months with no issue.
I'm also a side sleeper. This last Xmas trip I used this three-layer combo: air pad (Klymit Static V) on top of a thick closed-cell foam pad (something better than the thin blue pads) on top of a doubled-up sheet of Reflectix.
I slept like a (big, hairy, snoring) baby. The cost was less than $80.
I use one of the lightspeed ones for car camping.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01F7WEQYG/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
More comfortable than my thermarest NeoAir and I was comfortable in the mid 30's. Haven't tried colder.
I recommend [this sleeping pad] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007RFG0NM/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1)
It's pretty light, packs down to smaller than a Nalgene, and is super comfy. All that and it's pretty cheap for what it is!
No, not for backpacking. We'll be car camping & have Lightspeed FlexForm Sleeping pad
I didn't look into quilts assuming sleeping bags are the norm. Is there an advantage to quilts over sleeping bags when it comes to car camping?
This, or you can buy a cot pad for a cot without an included pad.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BF9IYO4
I suppose I should follow up on this and mention sleeping pads. I recommend staying away from the huge ones that require an electric pump. The pump always breaks. It's a rule of the universe that some poor bastard has to spend what feels like three hours inflating the mattress manually. Usually right after you've inhaled some smoke and your lungs are already compromised.
I use the Klymit Static V
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B007RFG0NM
It's been pretty great so far. I'm at the bare edge of being too tall for it at 6', but having my feet hang over isn't the end of the world. Packs away small, doesn't take too long to inflate manually, and is even okay for side sleepers. Some sleep pads can't handle the smaller footprint of side sleepers and they don't provide any support. I can also recommend the Snugpak jungle blanket. Packs away small and is decently warm. A good thing to have just in case. Nights in a tent can get colder than you'd think.
These self inflating pads gives you both comfort and insulation! I dont have one, but have been camping with some friends that use them and they say they are well worth the money.
The klymit insulated static v is not much more expensive (52.40 with prime) and I love mine.
It's called a tent. Get a good set of mattresses like this klymit and you're good to go.