(Part 3) Best backpacking & camping stoves & grills according to redditors
We found 910 Reddit comments discussing the best backpacking & camping stoves & grills. We ranked the 260 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the products ranked 41-60. You can also go back to the previous section.
Don't underestimate what a pain in the ass cooking over a fire can be: You have to stop someplace where you can have a fire, and this being wildfire season across the country there's lots of places you can't, and on a road trip it's going to be tougher to research the restrictions in place at each of your potential stopping points. Then you have to actually make the fire, which can be either easy or hard depending on what fuels are available where you happen to stop. And for a "cooking fire" you really need to have it going for a while so you have some steady hot coals to cook over, so you'll have to start making the fire way before you actually want to eat. Then afterwards you're going to have sooty pans to clean. And you're going to have to go through the whole process of putting the fire and the coals dead cold out before you move on....
...Or spend $20 on a cheap Propane stove that you can just sit on any old picnic table and turn on and off like your stove at home.
Campfire cooking is a lot of fun, but I would worry about it being the only cooking option that I had on a road trip. Having a cheap stove in the car gives you a backup option. Some nights you'll probably start a fire, but maybe some nights the stove will be the better option.
You can also get an adapter that will let you use the green camping propane canisters in jetboils and other stoves. It won't work well in the cold or high elevations, but cheap and good enough for this use.
It's a coleman propane tank with a stove head on it? Something like this.
http://www.amazon.com/Vargo-T-301-Triad-Alcohol-Stove/dp/B000AXVOLQ/ref=sr_1_13?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1418437318&sr=1-13
Few cents more with free shipping on amazon. I've never seen something on mass-drop that was actually competitively priced.
I like the Morakniv and firesteel ideas, and also:
Yeesh, stick yourself once on the needle and you’ll wish you’d just spent $8 on one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00V2PIWIY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_QCLWAb07E52NT
I agree with most others, parents place is probably the best option unless their home is in a more risky area in terms of where the hurricane is headed. The timing on this sucks, if the tree did damage the laterals and/or tank rainwater will continue to ruin any possibility of using it, even if you get it pumped, as it will just fill back up with rainwater quickly.
You can try and get a generator to use at your folks' house, although at this point it may be too late, since everyplace nearby may already be sold out. You can get a propane-powered camp stove for about $60 for cooking, just don't use it indoors without ventilation. They use the little 1lb propane bottles.
It's just a single burner stove on a Coleman propane bottle....
http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000010642-Single-Burner-Propane-Stove/dp/B00GVLDK4A
It sounds like you're reading the right materials, and getting the right info. Pay attention to the details, but don't let apprehension ruin your excitement. You're going to do great.
There will be lots of fires and cooking going on, you'll be just fine grilling meat, veggies, whatever you want. You won't stand out to a bear's nose at all. Safety in numbers.
Just keep a set of clean, dry and warm sleeping clothes to change into, so you don't go to bed smelling like hamburger juice. And keep the smellables locked up in your car, or the campsite bear box, over night. (there will be brown metal bear boxes everywhere large enough to lock up a small cooler) Also get a good-sized but lightweight tarp and a bunch of cordage to sling over the picnic table in case of rain. You don't want to end up being tempted into eating in the tent.
While you're gear shopping, you might invest in a modest camp stove, like this: https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Stove-Ppn-BRN-Triton/dp/B00VTJGWNU
There's no telling right now what kind of summer this will be. If it turns out to be unusually hot and dry, a burn ban might be in effect, which would mean no camp fires to cook on.
Plus a camp stove is just a lot quicker and easier for heating up some water for drinks or maybe making pancakes for the kids in the morning.
In a previous thread I saw someone say they don't really enforce it. But if you're trying to be safe I'd recommend buying one of these or something like it. They are really small and can cook just about anything! Could easily sneak it in with your stuff.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001EHKQ2A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_xOa6ybV7RV8NK
Looks VERY similar, no? That one costs half as much as yours.
Also, this one weighs 11.5 grams and costs 1/4 as much as yours.
>Was discussing this recently - is there a reasonably sized fryer for home use that would give the results of an industrial fryer?
Define "reasonably sized."
Like someone else said, the big issue is that people tend to overload fryers, and the oil temp drops when you dump a bunch of frozen food in there. Lots of oil mitigates this.
Something like this is pretty hefty for home use but still doesn't really hold a candle to a 20 or 30L commercial fryer.
if you have an "outdoor" space with good ventiliation and don't need a fryer that often, you can go with a big propane turkey fryer
For bonus use - those turkey fryer burners, the good ones at least, can out out 100k or more BTU.
Grab one of these. You can find them for under $20. And have a few cans of fuel on hand. They work great in a pinch or when you need an additional burner. Usually come with a nice case for storage: https://www.amazon.com/Portable-Butane-Stove-Carrying-Listed/dp/B01I4D8C6S
I have seen these stoves for as little as $4.99 with free shipping, but the price floats up and down. You will need a fuel cartridge from Walmart $5. Make sure you look at the threads. There are two kinds and you want to get the right one on the first go. Always use a wind screen to save fuel and protect the flame. Make from cardboard and aluminum foil.
P-38 GI can opener can be found at Military surplus stores and Walmart. Low as $0.25 each and up.
Grease pot is what a lot of ultralight hikers carry for boiling up water. $7 at Walmart. A #10 gallon can called a gunboat will work too. Free from restaurant trash bin.
4 way silcock water faucet key
Dumpster dive. Lots of fruits and vegetables. I don't recommend taking meats from there for your use. Pets may love it. You will need to locate several productive dumpsters because results will be inconsistent. In general you will find more than you can use so be a blessing to people around you. Bakeries bins will have bread, cakes and donuts. Pizza shops bins will have pizza and dough which you can bake over the coals of a fire in a can. Aluminum foil is handy to have.
Brown rice, canned beans & corn, tortillas, lentils, Vienna sausage, Knorr instant rice and noodle packets, instant mashed potatoes come in many flavors, chicken quarters if you have freezer access like at work.
You can do dried beans if you are cooking somewhere other than your camp stove. It will burn off too much fuel to use. An all night campfire is perfect for bean stew. A crock pot, slow cooker at work is good. You can bake potatoes or bread in it.
Olive oil will substitute for butter. Powdered whole dry milk keeps well if you put it in a zip lock bag to keep moisture out. Calculate how much you need for 1/4, 1/2 and 1 cup of liquid milk and mark it on the bag.
Tip, if you have a patio or outdoor area in the your apt use a portable butane stove for the cast iron and it will solve the smoke issue.
ProTip, Asian grocery stores sell the butane gas for cheap.
Wear layers, bring way more water than you need/have access to fresh clean water. Pack sufficient food. One of the best things, if you're not too keen on lugging everything around with you is car camping. Have a look at your state's park services, they usually have spots that you can rent for super cheap for the weekend, drive your car up, pitch the tent, and get started on the fire.
Also, heres a great book, kind of on camping.
Anything else that I can think: wet-wipes in a ziploc bag. Ziploc bags. Bug repellent. Lighter fluid. Propane for stove. Lighter. Pocket knife. Hatchet - seriously helpful. ICE. Cooking always takes way longer than you think it will, with set-up, assembly, clean-up. Don't take any unnecessary risks. Man, now I want to go camping.
Have a good time with your "buddy".
my condolences. have you considered this?
http://www.amazon.com/GAS-ONE-List-Portable-Stove/dp/B001TF8UY8
Pocket Stove
http://www.amazon.com/Innovative-Products-Foldable-Pocket-Cooker/dp/B000HR95NO/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1398779533&sr=8-5&keywords=pocket+stove
FireboxNano
http://www.amazon.com/Firebox-Campfire-Stove-D-Ring-Cordura/dp/B00GU009FK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1398780095&sr=8-2&keywords=firebox+nano
5 inch
http://www.amazon.com/Firebox-Folding-Campfire-Stove-Grill/dp/B007PIZLZ4/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1398780095&sr=8-9&keywords=firebox+nano
Here's one that's only $13. I'll probably get it just to try it out and have something like that.
I was dead-set on a JetBoil MiniMo. Walked into REI with a more experienced buddy and we put this setup together...its smaller and lighter than a mini-mo and way more flexible for the future:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BKJNYchiEo
parts list:
Snow Peak 700 - https://smile.amazon.com/Snow-Peak-Trek-Titanium-Cookset/dp/B000AR2N7Q
4oz fuel - https://smile.amazon.com/Jetboil-Jetpower-4-Season-Fuel-Blend/dp/B000NMAMOO
jetboil base - https://smile.amazon.com/Jetboil-Fuel-Can-Stabilizer-Size/dp/B00MUYUDC4
BRS stove - https://smile.amazon.com/BRS-3000T-Outdoor-Camping-Cooking-Ultra-light/dp/B072N82R83
bic mini lighter - https://smile.amazon.com/Lot-Mini-Ebony-Black-Lighters/dp/B00863W71I
MSR french press - https://smile.amazon.com/MSR-Windburner-Coffee-Press-Kit/dp/B00YOBML2Q
Vargo folding spork - https://smile.amazon.com/Vargo-T-217-Titanium-Folding-Spork/dp/B004R1LYEO
PackTowel UL face towel - https://smile.amazon.com/Packtowl-UltraLite-Face-Towel-Clay/dp/B017W4M7N4
dish soap - https://smile.amazon.com/Sea-Summit-Wilderness-Ounce-250ml/dp/B0029W1394
Looks great for a single source of heat!
BTW, when we were tearing our kitchen out, I set up a couple tables on the back patio and bought a butane stove similar to this one. It'll take a bit to boil a huge pot of water or some such, but it was really handy and worked surprisingly well for how cheap it was. I still use it occasionally.
And while I'm on the topic, I might mention I also bought a couple bus tubs to do the washing in. One had hot, soapy water for scrubbing, one was for rinsing.
It actually wasn't too bad a set up.
Water System:
-Sawyer Micro Squeeze w/ adaptor for back flushing
($45.40 on Amazon )
-2L Evernew Water Bag
($15.82 on Amazon )
-2 1L Smart Water Bottles ($5)
Cook Set:
-Toaks Titanium 900 ml pot
( $60.81 on Amazon )
-Light My Fire Spork
( $3.56 on Amazon )
Or, you could use a long handled spork to reach into dehydrated meal bags, e.g. Boundless Voyage, Toaks, Snow Peak, etc (More Expensive)
A cheap disposable option is a Dairy Queen large spoon if you don’t require a fork.
-Optional hot drink mug: GSI Infinity Backpackers Mug
( $11.09 on Amazon )
Stove:
Alcohol Options:
-Trangia or Titanium alcohol stove e.g. Vargo Triad
-Make a DIY beer can or aluminum flashing windscreen (YouTube)
[You need to make sure that the alcohol stove has a snuffer cap if a fire ban is in effect]
[If you use an alcohol stove, you will need a leakproof fuel bottle- check MEC, Litesmith, or use an old fuel stabilizer bottle]
[In Canada, good alcohol fuels are Methyl Hydrate and Captain Phab Marine Stove Fuel]
Gas Stoves:
I don’t use a gas stove, however, here are a few I have heard of that are more affordable.
($59.95 on Amazon )
($20.93 on Amazon )
I use a butane stove for all types of applications. They are very efficient, adjustable flame level, very inexpensive, fairly portable, and the fuel canisters have no expiration, also inexpensive, and length of burn per canister is about 3 hours at full flame. Same manufacturer for all brands but here's an example:
https://www.amazon.com/Camp-Chef-Butane-Burner-Camping/dp/B002Z7WSJM/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1501529133&sr=8-5&keywords=butane+stove
If you want the best, get a Coleman Dual Fuel Camp Stove, they run off of Coleman fuel or gasoline. Coleman also makes a 3 fuel stove but is a bit pricier.
I'm really happy with my Concord 16" banjo style. $89.99 with free shipping on Amazon. It says up to 200,000btu. It gets to a boil quickly and can also do low outputs for maintaining mash temps.
https://www.amazon.com/Concord-Single-Burner-Brewing-Equipment/dp/B01AH5M8M0
I disagree about getting rid of the camp shoes. You don't necessarily need Crocs, but I personally wouldn't go without a pair of camp shoes. It was nice to switch into them so your feet aren't as constricted and can breathe.
I used the walmart brand Crocs the entire trail, $7, and they lasted the whole way. Shit, I'm ashamed to admit it, but I'm wearing them right now. (Edit: to add, a few members of my tramily either had to/or chose to hike in their camp shoes at some point due to shoes failing or preference respectively)
You can cut corners on a lot of things, but findng that middle ground of cost vs quality is important. As others have said, Cascade mountain tech poles are legit. I started with them and would've finished with them if I hadn't found a set of black diamonds in CT. The bd's were lighter and fully functional, but I'd take the CMTs any day if I'm paying for them. You might just need to replace the tips with some black diamond tips when the stock tips where down, but that's easy and cheap. Roughly 25 bucks for the poles and 15 for new tips half way through still puts you way under the price of new lekis/bd's.
For a down jacket, I bought a cheapo Amazon one for 15 buck(on sale from 40) and I'm still using it to this day. YMMV with the cheaper ones, but reviews should point you in the right direction. My gf used the Amazon basics down jacket with hood and loved it. It's well made, warm, and relatively inexpensive.
For a stove, I used this. Its essentially an msr pocket rocket 1 knock off, but it was solid, reliable, and surprising more efficient then a lot of other stoves I ran into.
There are plenty of other things you can save money on. Sometimes you sacrifice a bit of quality or weight for savings, but often it's marginal or not at all if you do your research. Plus, you'll be a beast so you won't care about the minimal extra weight after a while.
I personally would go with reputable brands/products for the big 4, but you also don't need the lightest/most expensive options either. Osprey Exos is a good middle ground for example
My family uses a portable gas stove like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Camp-Chef-Butane-Burner-Camping/dp/B002Z7WSJM/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1418756318&sr=8-8&keywords=portable+gas+stove
The key is to get a hotpot pot with sections, for a spicy and non-spciy side :)
http://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Steel-Cookware-Induction-Compatible/dp/B0086AKTVG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1418756374&sr=8-2&keywords=hotpot+divided
There are these stoves that 'gasify' wood (and can also be used with alcohol as fuel), and just use little twigs and sticks as fuel:
Solo is the original brand, and Toaks makes one that's lighter, because it's made out of titanium.
This is a cheap knockoff that would work, too.
They have limitations; they're not as fast as a 'canister stove', and you aren't always allowed to use them in parks and stuff. They are considered a 'campfire' in some places, so if there is a burn ban (due to dry or other wildfire-friendly conditions), you would not be allowed to use it.
It's a better option than solar, unless you are in the middle of the desert, but it also uses renewable resources, so you don't have to keep buying fuel, as you would with a canister stove.
Good luck, man. Just please be careful and do your homework and start small (ie, with some test runs of a day or two, to familiarize yourself with gear and techniques).
Have fun!
Friend of mine busted out one of these yesterday, was really effective, no gas taste, and looks super cool.
He uses it with a coleman propane tank using this adapter.
[This](http://www.GAS.com/ ONE Propane or Butane Stove GS-3400P Dual Fuel Portable Camping and Backpacking Gas Stove Burner with Carrying Case Great for Emergency Preparedness Kit (GOLD) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HQRD8EO/) is the one I have and it works great. $45
I bought on of [these](http://www.Icetek.com/ Sports Ultralight Backpacking Canister Camp Stove with Piezo Ignition, 3.9 oz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00V2PIWIY/) for backpacking.
If you only need to boil water the second option is SUPER compact and affordable. The big Coleman stoves are gonna be more pricy but unless you cook a lot at camp it's probably overkill
I use this 10" Banjo style by Concord, from Amazon. 200K BTUs. I bought this one mainly because it had removable legs, and I mounted it in my brew stand without the legs. It's a great burner, but is painted with regular black paint, which took a while to burn off. I boil in a 16 gallon kettle, which works well. It's pretty efficient. I turn it way down from full blast when I'm using it once I get to full boil. It turns down very well, and burns very cleanly (no soot).
However, I don't get 4 batches off a tank, because I also use that same burner and kettle for the HLT. If you're boiling that much water, you're going to use a lot of propane. But a banjo style is much more efficient (and quieter) than the jet style, and I think it's more efficient than the impinged jet style as well.
http://www.amazon.com/Texsport-Heavy-Duty-Swivel-Grill/dp/B004XAT4OG/ref=sr_1_48?ie=UTF8&qid=1397856888&sr=8-48&keywords=camping+grill
http://www.amazon.com/Campfire-Pit-Grill-Non-stick-Grilling/dp/B00IM31JAW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1397856913&sr=8-2&keywords=camping+grill+swivel
seems the search keyword you're looking for is swivel grill
There are a few options.
I love my Jetboil, but it's too small to feed a group of 4 more than freeze dried meals. You could buy the Jetboil Pot Support, which will allow you to use larger pots and pans with the Jetboil stove. The Fuel Can Stabilizer will help keep the whole thing steady with larger pots/pans. Personally I have other stoves so I've never looked at going this route.
You could pick up a MSR Pocket Rocket; it's not the smallest/cheapest/lightest stove, but it's pretty reliable as far as backpacking stoves go. It's bigger than most of the competition, but that also means it's more stable than the Kovea Supalite and much more stable than the popular BRS3000T with a larger pot/pan. But still small and light enough to take backpacking. With a group of 4 cooking meals, it's good to have two stoves going (don't forget you still have the Jetboil to cook stuff as well).
One issue with the Jetboil and MSR PR is the flame pattern is very narrow. For cooking with larger pots/pans, it's nice to have a wide flame to distribute the heat. There are some larger backpacking stoves like the Primus Classic Trail Stove that have a nice wide flame, but is also bigger and bulkier if you want to use it as a backpacking stove.
There are other options like white gas stoves and alcohol stoves; white gas stoves are much more expensive, heavy, bulky, but cook really well. Alcohol stoves are cheap (free if you make them yourself), but can take longer to cook anything.
And there are some who carry propane stoves and the heavy green propane canisters... for car camping a dual-burner stove is the way to go, but I'm not going to haul any of those green cansiters in my backpack.
As for the tent... been looking at the SS2, but haven't picked one up yet since it doesn't pass the "what's wrong with the tent you have now?" test. Not sure what you mean by too much tent, it's not a Hilleberg!
Good luck!
Here's a simple folding grill.
Lodge and Camp Chef have tripods for Dutch ovens or grills that can hold skillets or food over your fire pit.
Here are links for a few, different, swivel, grills.
~$23 USD Esbit Stove
Use with solid fuel cubes or put an alcohol burner in there (maybe DIY soda can stove)
Or just go fancee feast
For shelter, you really have a choice, tent, tarp and hammock, or tarp and net tent. If you want to hang around camp, you might want a bigger tent. If you plan to do hiking, many people only use the shelter to sleep in, and go with something small and lightweight, like a small solo tent, or even bivy.
I would point you towards some lightweight hiking gear here. That gives you the option to hike off to primative sites, carrying your shelter and supplies on your back. You don't necessarily need to go to the ultralight extremes that serious distance hikers go though.
You could start with a tent like this or this. If you wanted to get more serious into distance hiking, you would maybe spend more on something even lighter in weight (like maybe 2 lbs).
In Florida, I like the combination of a bug bivy (like this ) and a good tarp (like this). Though you would need poles as well. Hikers tend to use their trekking poles (like these). You would also need paracord (550 cord works well) to pitch a tarp.
For a stove, I mean something like this. Those are inexpensive and work fine.
For clothes, you can probably use mostly things you already own. Avoid cotton and linen. Synthetics like nylon and polyester will dry much more easily and do a better job in the heat and humidity in FL. And if you are going to go out there now, in hunting season, make sure you have some things that are bright orange. The hunters can be more dangerous than the bears.
As for bears, you don't really need any special container. Just learn to hang a stuff sack with any food or toiletries which have any scent. Using an odor barrier bag as a liner isn't a bad idea though. They'll generally leave you alone unless they smell what they think is food (and their sense of smell is very strong).
For shoes, again existing walking shoes are probably fine for now. Especially if you stick to sites off existing hiking trails to start.
For now, I'd start with a less primative site in a campground in someplace like Ocala. You can explore from there (there are sites near to trails), and have an idea next time you go out where you might want to try more primative camping. For now, focus on developing skills like how to use a compass, how to pitch a tent or tart, learning usefull knots for pitching tarps or hangning bear bags, etc.
It probably is a good idea to have a sleeping pad right off. A RidgeRest Classic might do the job for about $20. You can spend more on an inflatable pad if you think you will be more comfortable.
Plan for the cold. Buy a good sleeping bag and don't scrimp on it. This link recommends Kelty brand sleeping bags. I own Kelty brand and its good. A mummy style fits closer for warmth, but can feel claustrophobic. a rectangular style fits looser for movement, but at a cost of less warmth.
Plan for warm layers for yourself. buying a good baselayer can help keep you warm when you're not in your sleeping bag. Merino wool is a good choice, but it costs. its worth the cost. there are synthetic styles that are cheaper.
Buy a good headlamp, because making your way to the public restrooms in the dark sucks muchly and you'd hate it if you dropped and lost your flashlight. plus carrying a flashlight in your hand means you can't carry much else.
Buy something that will help you cook your food and heat water. If that's going to be handled for you, then you might not need it. Me, I like to be self-sufficient and I really like my tea. Be sure to ask your group how food is going to be handled. I like GSI Outdoors brand because its nice and compact and its a nice size for a Vargo titanium alcohol stove. If you go this route, you'll need Denatured Alcohol which is hard to be shipped. Call around local hardware stores or hiking stores around you to see if anyone carries it. You'll also need flip top plastic squeeze bottles to carry the alcohol around in. Keep it in its own leak-proof bag. If you have a store close to you like Cabela's or REI, they carry this stuff too.
buy a travel mug with a cover. Me, I like Hydroflask brand because its flip-top cap is leak proof, but YMMV.
Here's a bunch of hacks that look interesting. You don't have to go all-out on these, but if you find yourself doing this type of car-camping again, you'll find them useful. Here's some more tips for first-time campers
WEAR STURDY SHOES. Boots are a great idea, but they also make hiking shoes that are lighter in weight. Buy merino wool socks. Merino wool is like ovens for your feet. I like Smartwool or Darn Tough
For food: I've done an entire camping trip on nothing but unrefrigerated foods. I bought a good crusty bread, squeeze peanut butter and squeeze jam. there are also pre-packaged hiking foods that are tasty. Make sure you bring several gallons of water and be sure to keep hydrated.
also BUG SPRAY! Don't mess around with "all natural" bug spray. You want DEET. I went camping in an area that was close to the water table and was basically mosquito breeding central. from the time when I arrived and the time I finally broke down and bought a DEET-based repellant, I was bitten 47 times.
edited to add: PHONE CHARGERS! This is mega important because power is going to be a premium at a festival. I own this Anker Power Core and it will re-charge your phone up to 7 times. Its kind of heavy, but its worth it. Anker also sells smaller ones that will recharge a phone twice to three times.
edited again to add: Anything you buy, test it before the trip happens. Sleep a night in your new sleeping bag. test your new camp-stove (outside preferably). cook something in your new camp pot. see how it works so that if there's something that doesn't happen the way you want it, you know about it before the big day. especially if you've never used a campstove before: you want to learn how to operate it without burning yourself or others or setting fire to things that shouldn't be on fire.
Portable burner ! Cook it outside! You can buy an electric “hot plate” for pretty cheap, or a portable burner that operates off of a butane canister, at a restaurant supply store for $ 30-40.
https://www.amazon.com/Camplux-Propane-Portable-Outdoor-Camping/dp/B07CMQ9PMX/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=2EEQ03FRO16JU&keywords=portable+burner+butane&qid=1563899469&s=gateway&sprefix=Portable+burner%2Caps%2C153&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzUUc0REdQUDQxSTlOJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMjIyNzk5MUtSODdPV0w5RFRQRCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwOTM3Mjc5MUVFMVlUSDRVS1VNSyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
Search “portable burner” and look under “butane” when it gives you multiple suggestions.
https://www.amazon.com/Stansport-Single-Burner-Propane-Stove/dp/B001EHKQ2A/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1501637952&sr=8-5&keywords=camping+stove+single+burner
This the one?
Parking depends on a lot of factors :( You would need to sleep with the windows slightly open so you can get some fresh air. You generally don't want to park and sleep somewhere too alone or in the pure dark because it could be risky, but you also don't want to park in front of a busy household where people could see you and wonder what you are doing :(. Yet for example around a household that has a wall along the sidewalk is a good location since there would still be houses near by, good lighting, but also a separation where you won't be in front of a house' front door. You generally want to park somewhere that has good lighting and has other vehicles parked there also. Parking where there is good lighting is the best location because it might dissuade someone from breaking into your vehicle. Don't really park all alone because it could make your vehicle a target. I also suggest you call your local parking enforcement building and learn what kind of parking laws are in your area. Like how long you can park at one location before you can move, street sweeping, etc.
I don't know about all the hatchbacks that have been made in the past but you can check https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.shtml use the section in the middle called search by class. First enter a year, probably old enough so you can buy it with out breaking the bank, then below that entry there is another that has hatchbacks in it. Select that then in the last one just leave it as combined mpg don't select a number so it gives you the full list. It will give you a list of vehicles then you have to go in google and enter the year/make/model of the vehicle (Its listed for each vehicle) so for example 2000 Honda Civic then add Dimensions so it reads 2000 Honda Civic dimensions and to the google search. Result is: 164-175″ L x 67″ W x 54-55″ H That is Length, Width, and Height. You can also try :2000 Honda Civic cargo space" and it will give you 11.9 to 13.4 ft³, 11.9 to 18.1 ft³ with seat area <-- Folded. You can use that as a guideline to see just how much space the vehicle might hold inside. BUT the best thing to do is to go see one yourself make sure the seats fold AND measure the length to the front seats (Be sure to slide the front seats forward for extra space) then see if you can lay down in there comfortably enough. Also, test drive it and run it through the free way be sure to bring it up to speed and don't be gentle with it. If you hear any weird sounds or issues then don't buy the vehicle :(
That is one part. You also have find the used vehicle. You can try craiglist or maybe car gurus. So you gotta know how much you can afford in a used vehicle... how much it will cost to register/title at dmv... and figure out how much money you can have left for sudden repairs....
If you could get yourself a vehicle still under warranty you wouldn't have to worry so much about repairs since you'd be covered by the warranty but warranties tend to be short for bumper to bumper coverage which is about 3 years or 36,000 miles. Power train tends to be 5 years 60k miles but some vehicles might have less so you have to check on that.
Speaking of vans right now the Nissan Nv200 has a great warranty: 5 yr/100,000 mi basic, 5 yr/100,000 mi powertrain that is 2014 year and up. Used ones right now are at least 15k usd + :( but I'm mentioning just as a future reference for you if the warranty is still around just as good for later models and you ever consider one.
Like I said get a credit card BUT DON'T EVER spend more than 10$ on it. If you do and you can't pay it back you will end up neck deep in debt quickly. I'm pretty much dead serious :(. Spend 10$ used every month and pay it off every month. Maybe get a second one a month or so later and spend 5$ each for 10$ total. With credit scores they want you to have the least amount of debt possible thus only spend 10$ and for you to pay it off no problem. If you do that you will get a really high credit score in about two years. So if everything goes good for you and you keep your job and save money in two years you could get yourself a good van :). That is a pro tip right there for you but you have to be really responsible with your spending.
Also... food banks... http://www.feedingamerica.org/find-your-local-foodbank/ they are good enough places for food you can keep in your vehicle they generally give you non-perishables that keep for a while. Eventually you will also want to get a small propane tank (To start) like one of those small camping propane tanks and get yourself a small camping cooking stove. perhaps something like http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000020951-Butane-Camping-650-BTU/dp/B00GVK9WDO or http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000010642-Single-Burner-Propane-Stove/dp/B00GVLDK4A which is more minimalistic but might he hard to balance things on.
No, propane stoves are generally not optimal for backpacking.
Isobutane canisters are the typical fuel for backpacking stoves.
If you need a cheap option - check this out:
Fuel is a tough one since gasoline doesn't store particularly well. Not sure about the bottles breaking down, will have to look into it.
Simple but effective, easy to carry. Sorry IDK how to shorten the links on my phone
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MG66UV5/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_gCXXzb863F3Z8
Hmm, in that case I would honestly recommend just buying a cheap propane burner like this. Cost wise it would be about the same, though if you need more gas than what is in a 1lb bottle, you need an adapter that connects to a standard 5 or 20 lb tank (not at all expensive and easy to find at walmart).
You can also get an Esbit version. They're nice because they can hold a fair bit of fuel in a pretty small package. It comes with a screw top and an O-ring, so you can fill it with fuel, put it out, and seal it back up with no wasted fuel. They're also lightweight, and you can use over the counter rubbing alcohol for fuel - although the BTUs on that sort of stuff might be inferior to other fuels. I don't know.
The only thing I WILL say about them, though, is that I'd recommend keeping it relatively warm in colder weather. I've found that my alcohol stove simply refuses to start if its too cold, and so the last time I went out I kept it in my sleeping bag with me while I slept, and it fired up without much trouble in the morning.
Also would recommend some sort of windscreen, just in case. Esbit does also make another UL stove that uses their fuel tablets, which the alcohol stove can fit into (but getting it lit requires a little extra effort either getting it into the slots, or lighting it while its in the slots).
Of course, there's also always these guys also by Esbit, which you can store the fuel cells in when its folded. The only thing I don't like about them (which take with a giant grain of salt, because I'm 100% an amateur to all of this) is that you're limited with the fuel cell and the length of burn. You don't end up wasting any excess fuel with the alcohol stove. Also, you do get the added benefit, if you're using rubbing alcohol for fuel, of having an antiseptic available in a pinch.
Finally, an option to keep the whole package on the small end, you have these little guys as pot stands. They work great to keep my pot elevated off the stove, but I will say that they do seem to get in the way of the burn a bit and inhibit some of the airflow, but not enough to be a huge issue. They fit into the Esbit alcohol stove perfectly, but again, you might be better off with something that lifts the pot up a bit more for a better burn. I think they're designed to be used with the their own brand of alcohol stove, though, so that's probably why they don't work great.
I'm with you, though we did start cooking a couple of years ago using something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Portable-Butane-Stove-Carrying-Listed/dp/B01I4D8C6S and cooking nothing but non-messy things (boil-in-bag rice, spray pancakes, eggbeaters, tastybites, instant mashed potatoes and squeezy butter to use up any leftover boil water, etc). No fuss, no muss, and the occasional hot food it pretty great.
Stanley cook set, DZO cup , gsi cup , snowpeak life max stove , jetboil canister holder , Keith ti spork . MSR fuel, lighter, small bottle, and micro fiber rag were found at either REI or Walmart.
if you go for this style for car camping, (and you absolutely should, as they're a joy to cook on as long as weight doesn't matter), then get the propane adapter.
Not only does it make cooking on the stove a joy, the cost is lower too. Coleman fuel costs a mint, and you need to fill and pump the tank. You could buy the Unleaded gas version, but you would still need to pump.
There's got to be a million good used stoves like this out there, they're built like tanks. Mine's like 50 years old and the only maintenance I do is oil the leather gasket on the piston pump once a year, just to keep the Coleman white gas option open to me.
Tried this stove out for 4 day hike, and it worked great. Same design as the penny stove but the built in stand is awesome and at 1oz, it's hard to beat.
Probably just ignorance. At least for my part it is. I had never head of it before. Here it is. If I ever go canister again I may give this little pipsqueak a try.
[This guy](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006GT50EA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
) lasted me through 2 weeks of backcountry camping in the PNW. Essentially an MSR clone.
As others have said, yes, different fuel brands are interchangeable as long as they have Lindal valves.
I have an Optimus Crux and also use it for car camping because I'm a minimalist. Recently, I was running low on fuel and none of the stores in the area had Lindal fitting canisters but they all had the larger 1 lb. canisters with a larger fitting. When I got home, i bought this adapter to use in case I was in that situation again.
Just did my first weekend with a 1 burner butane camp chef that I got from Amazon, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002Z7WSJM/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1 worked great, was simple and very hot but cleaned up easy. I bought a 4 pack of the butane cans for about $10, they have them at my local sporting good stores for $2.99 each, it was used pretty heavily over the course of 3 days and I used up 1 can. Its replacing my bigger Coleman and going to be an essential part of my hurricane kit.
You need an adapter, something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Lixada-Camping-Adapter-Outdoor-Propane/dp/B072QXKVJP/
(Link because photo. Not an endorsement, I haven't actually tried the product and a better or cheaper adapter might be available too.)
The propane canisters are heavy. But you get better cold weather performance.
People use butane because you can save a lot of weight, at the expense of cold weather performance. To mitigate this, they make various blends of butane, iso-butane, and propane.
My personal solution is to refill the lightweight backpacking canisters with cheap ("screwgate") butane from the Korean grocery. I can refill a $7 backpacking fuel can for about $1.50 and it works great for 3 seasons use.
This has been my go to stove lately.
TopOne Backpacking Canister Rocket Camp Stove 3.9oz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006GT50EA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_2YbAONY6gyPz5
Using it with the $7 aluminum grease dispenser pot from Walmart has been an awesome all enclosed cook kit with a 220 gram cylinder.
It summers very well and I've used it for ramen with an egg numerous times.
> the brs with a small gas cannister wants to fall over with a pot on it
I use one of these fuel can stands and I love it. It's much easier to put a small rock under one of the feet as necessary to make everything level, compared to balancing everything on just the fuel can itself.
If I were going to get a stove for emergency cooking, I'd lean more towards this one:
https://www.amazon.com/Lixada-Portable-Stainless-Lightweight-Solidified/dp/B00O6RRR3Q
Actually, I wont say I "lean" towards it. I have one, and it's fantastic. Will burn most anything small you throw at it, and burns hot as shit too.
I don't have any down puffy jackets, but I do have a brand new, never used Matador Beast28 daypack. They're currently sold out and retail for $80.
I have a MSR MicroRocket that's been used, but has never left the house.
I also have a brand new Agua X stormproof camera bag, as well as a ThinkTank Retrospect messenger bag, although the latter isn't necessarily camping gear. I have a handful of other photo accessories laying around as well, if you're into photography at all.
I tried this multiple times and could never get the pieces to fit together correctly. Somehow, the aluminum always tore when fitting the top and bottom together. Finally, I just bought one. It was worth the $25 to have a good quality stove made from sturdy titanium that weighs less than two ounces.
I got it on amazon I'll find the link and post it, I spent the winter staring at it till I finally pulled the trigger.
Texsport Heavy Duty Swivel Grill https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B004XAT4OG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_1RN4ybFBY16RZ
Here you go!
I have this stove and Love it! Folds away but can use propane or butane (has been used due to power outage ironically)
Camplux New Dual Fuel Propane & Butane Portable Outdoor Camping Gas Stove Single Burner with Carry Case https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CMQ9PMX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_t08oDbSJP4261
If fires are allowed where I'm going, I've come to prefer using a small wood burning stove like this http://www.amazon.com/Innovative-Products-Foldable-Pocket-Cooker/dp/B000HR95NO instead of a gas stove.
They can also burn solid fuel like esbit tabs. If the wood around you is too damp to start a fire, burning an esbit tab can dry your twigs enough to continue on as fuel once the tab burns out.
They use 8 oz cans of butane. Sometimes the cans are labeled "8.8 oz", it's the same thing. However you do NOT want the smaller cans of butane that are meant to refill cigarette lighters. And remember this is butane, not propane. A propane tank will not work in this model, but some similar stoves will work with either gas.
Butane is not good in freezing temps or high altitudes. I live in a warm flat place, so that's not a problem.
Does it need to be the kind of grill you can throw burgers or w.e on a grate? Ive brought this one everytime and it works just fine in the wind...its more of a stovetop tho, I have to use pots/pans to cook things.
You'll pack cooking equipment, but i'm not sure how you plan on carrying a sheet steel pot and pan set, steel bowls, wooden utensils, and a cast iron pot stand, unless you have a pack horse somewhere accompanying you.
They make gas burners that screw directly on to a small gas can, and then that whole thing comes apart and fits in a small pot. Usually made out of titanium because when you're backpacking weight is everything.
I take my dutch oven and pot stand car camping... but if I were on "a week long hike", i'd be taking my small camp stove and pot, and eating dehydrated food.
Is it really discrimination when you can go to Amazon or half a dozen local retailers and buy yourself a gas powered burner and a gas bottle? They're banning natural gas because of PG&E blowing up and burning down cities while inefficiently burning carbon, not because they hate Indian and Chinese food.