Unfortunately Redragon only carries Outemu Blue switches.
If you can sacrifice RGB for price, here are some recommendations.


Velocifire TKL02: https://www.amazon.com/VELOCIFIRE-TKL02-Mechanical-Copywriters-Programmers/dp/B07DFBKYT5/ref=sr_1_14?crid=40PZNVPVZBZK&keywords=brown+switch+keyboard&qid=1566626313&s=gateway&sprefix=brown+switch%2Celectronics%2C175&sr=8-14
I own one of these that was passed down from a friend, the body is a bit different but the switches make for some overall really great typing experiences. I use this when I'm trying to be quiet at night personally.


HyperX Alloy FPS Pro: https://www.amazon.com/HyperX-Alloy-FPS-Pro-Ultra-Compact/dp/B074F5L8GQ/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=red+switch+keyboard&qid=1566626478&s=gateway&sr=8-5
This is an option for genuine Cherry MX Red.
Personally one of my favorite boards and is completely justified by the price. Most mechanicals that carry genuine Cherry MX Reds are gonna be a bit pricier in this range, but this is one of your only budget options if you want to try and avoid the scratchier Outemu Reds.


E-Element Z-88: https://www.amazon.com/Element-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Switch/dp/B07CMNZRKP/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=red+switch+keyboard&qid=1566626617&s=gateway&smid=A5DH81C821W8U&sr=8-7
The Z-88 is another budget option for Outemu Reds and probably a board I've enjoyed the most out of every board that has the Outemu Red switch in them.
White may not be your color but the boards layout makes if very space saver friendly and offers the red switches that are better working in this board.
I think the Outemu Reds in this board feeling a tad better have something to do with the way to body of the board was built though.

in terms of brand reputation, filco is highly recommended by many keyboard enthusiasts. the TKL version and the one with TK both are cherry mx browns, excellent build quality, but also a bit pricey. The Filcos also come in a style where the the key lettering is printed on the front of the keys instead of the top (TK/TKL).


Another brand that has solid build quality is leopold. simple design, build quality that rivals the filco, mx browns and a removable USB cable.

another popular brand on reddit and in general are the das keyboards. Also not backlit, but like the filco, the build quality's great, though some people don't care for the glossy finish (looks great, but attracts fingerprints like crazy).

if backlighting is important to you, the razer blackwidow has features more suited towards gamers (macro keys, backlighting, earphone/mic jacks, usb port) though the build quality would be arguably better on the first 3.

I've had a look at the devastator combo and it definitely looks interesting at that pricepoint. However, I would offer the following:

1. What do you want from your keyboard? Do you want to improve your typing experience or looking to enhance your gaming? Either way, shelling out more money will get you better ergonomics (reduced strain, increased longevity, etc.) and in most cases a big increase in how long a board can stay with you.
   
2. Have you considered mechanical switches? I switched a little while back and now I can't imagine buying rubber dome again. It's not because of elitism, it's simply a better experience for me all round and I now live in the knowledge that the board I have will be with me for some time.
   
   There are some really decent boards at reasonable pricepoints scattered all about. The immediate ones that come to mind are:
   
   
3. Corsair K65
   
4. CM Storm Quickfire Rapid
   
5. Rosewill RK-6000
   
   Granted, these are above the pricepoint mentioned for the devastator but if you're willing, the ergonomics and quality of these boards should vastly outweigh it.
   
   As mentioned, have a look at /r/mechanicalkeyboards once you have a feel for what you want in a keyboard. If you spend significant amount of time behind a computer in the first place (gaming + work can easily soak up dozens of hours a week) then investing in quality kit seems like a good idea.
   
   If you think the Devastator set looks awesome and fits your needs, by all means go for it. Be sure to post pics and your experience when you get it!
   
   EDIT: For reference, have a quick look at the reviews being posted on Amazon. Though not the most reputable source, they do seem to highlight a number of concerns for this combo with build quality and polish. Most notably the fact that the scroll lock key is used to turn the LEDs on and off on the keyboard but simultaneously also turns that function on. This may be a problem if you use programs that respond to that key being on. In addition, it appears that a) the keys are not particularly well-finished and may have some chips in them and b) when the LEDs are off you can't see the writing on the keys. Not a problem if you're a touch typist but if you tend to look at the board while typing you may have issues.
   
   Linky: http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ

"Gaming keyboards" are generally just mediocre quality keyboards dressed up with pretty lights and some extra buttons. None of them are really any good.

If you want a great keyboard, look at filco. My current keyboard is a filco majestouch-2 ninja tenkeyless with brown keys, though it unfortunately seems to be out of stock on amazon right now. There are still a lot of filcos in stock on Amazon though, and if you're willing to shell out the cash I highly recommend taking a look at the best keyboard I've ever used.

For cheaper high-quality keyboards you can take a look at leopolds or Coolermasters. If you have to have backlighting, the best options are the soon-to-be-released ducky shine 2 or the ducky year of the dragon edition.

Also, if you want a good mechanical keyboard, you should take a look into the different switch types. The common ones are blues (loud and very tactile), browns (quieter and tactile), reds (linear, so no tactile bump), and blacks (same as reds but stiffer). The standard recommendation is blues for pure typists and people who love loud clicks, browns as a good middle-ground and softer, and blacks/reds for FPS/some other games that use a lot of double tapping.

Ok, I'm going to go with the RED's and see if I can avoid bottoming out. Amazon has the easiest return policy so I can test one out from there and fall back on the Brown's if need be. But I could use some feedback on the brands I've found. There is one by HyperX Alloy, Corsair,and Cool Master, which I'm leaning towards:

HyperX Alloy:
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B074F5L8GQ/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I3019CKXYTT217&colid=2SP7WUOPZKFVJ&psc=0

Corsair:
https://www.amazon.ca/Corsair-Gaming-Mechanical-Keyboard-Cherry/dp/B06XC1WNPT/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1518336343&sr=1-6&keywords=cherry%2Bmx%2Bred%2Bkeyboard&th=1

Cooler Master
https://www.amazon.ca/MasterKeys-Tenkeyless-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches/dp/B072JBFJB4/ref=sr_1_8?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1518336343&sr=1-8&keywords=cherry+mx+red+keyboard

All three are billed as gaming keyboards but I'm mainly trying them out for typing. The Cool Master doesn't look very fancy but I don't need the lights and it says I can switch the keys around for Dorvak and Workman layouts for making typing even easier (I'm just learning about this now). Unless those other two are supposed to be way better?

I know the switch itself should be the same across boadrs but these 'PBT' keys on the Cool Master, the thicker keys, that doesn't affect force required? A review of a CoolMaster said "PBT keycaps feel a lot more substantial than ABS keycaps, and Cooler Master has made them feel even more solid by making them 1.5mm thick." I'm just wondering if by 'more' substantial he means a bit heavier to press down or not. If so I'll go with the HyperX Alloy.

Anyone have any experience with these?

I personally prefer the Ninja Tenkeyless, but if you want a fullsize 104 keyboard then that's a good choice. It's tenkeyless but everything else is the same. The front printed keys give the both an absolutely awesome feel and look. I actually previously owned a Das, and after buying a Filco I returned my Das: the quality is that much better (the Das is not bad in any way, but the Filco is just that awesome).

As for the USB-PS2 adapter any of the little purple guys that look like this will work. There's nothing special about them for filco or Das as far as I know. Definitely use the PS2 port if your computer has one.

If you want more feedback, then mechanical keyboards are certainly worth a go. The ones I suggested (linears) provide some feedback, and you can get tactile switches (e.g. mx brown) which have a tactile bump right when the key is registered as well. There are also clicky switches, which have a tactile bump and an audible click at the point of actuation as well. It's all very fun and exciting, so definitely try out a cheap mechanical board and see if you like it, or get a key tester (Amazon US link here) to see the difference between different switches. I also wrote this guide to different switches which might be helpful.

Its obvious that you aren't trying to spend much. Most folks will regurgitate Ducky Shine. Its a great keyboard but I'm pretty sure out of your price range.

None of those keyboards are known for their quality really. One problem with backlit keyboards is that the keys wear eventually and then you get a giant blob of backlighting instead of a letter/symbol.

Typing for long periods of time on a "slim" type keyboard is usually not recommended since users push the keys too hard and add unnecessary force to their finger joints. This could lead to long term pain. Out of the ones you picked the Logysis is probably the best but those keys still require quite a bit of force.

If you want to check out mechanical backlit keyboards and don't need the 10key pad check out the KeyCool 87 or The CM storm quickfire pro if you do need the 10key pad. Those keyboards are most likely STILL out of your price range though. If you are willing to spend that much however you could wait till /r/massdrop has the group buy on the Ducky Shine 2 which will be a very good deal for most people (I bet it'll go down to at least 120 dollars per person).

TL;DR: Rubber dome keyboards are bad but they fit your budget. Go for non-short travel ones. The Logysis is your best bet.


PS) If you decide on a mechanical keyboard check out /r/mechanicalkeyboards. You will get more information about what fits your need than people exclusively saying to buy Ducky/Filco.

My buddy has this, which I've used a few times. From using a Filco blue switch keyboard the red switch is incredibly light to touch with a very responsive pick up. Do a lot of research into which kind of switch you want before you buy, trust me I've gone through 3 mechanical keyboards in the last 10 months to figure out which switch I liked most, because I didn't research before hand.

Just for the love of god, don't buy Razer D:!

Seems like you're looking for a Max Keyboard Nighthawk X9.

The X9 uses Cherry Reds and has a 3 level red LED backlight. Profiles are available and used the functions keys for macros. It has two USB 2.0 ports, and mic/headphone jacks.

There's also an X8 version that uses Cherry Browns, and has blue LED blacklighting.

I have one right now, and I love it! Hasn't let me down yet. I also play LoL on it, as well as FPS, and other games on Steam.

I have size 18 of this. It's awesome. Perfect size for the keyboard and very, very comfortable.

You didn't list your budget, but since you said you have a Lycosa, I'm going to assume you know what it feels like to throw money at a keyboard.

Gaming keyboards (well, keyboards in general) can range from very budget friendly, to ridiculous.

Sticking with Razer and going for a more "solid" feel, the new Blackwidow line with the Razer custom switches may be what you're looking for. The versions with the Razer orange switches may be quiet enough that your roommate won't mind. The Blackwidow Ultimate Stealth has all the lights and other bells and whistles. The Logitech G710+ should feel and sound about the same.

If you want to dump the mechanical switch types all together, the Logitech G19 and the Corsair K50 are all-around good boards, but they'll have the same feel and heft of your Lycosa.

Your most solid built keyboards are going to be the mechanical ones - if even for the simple fact that the 104+ individual Cherry switches will weigh more than a single sheet of rubber membrane. If you get the chance, I'd suggest trying out a brown, red, or black Cherry switch. They don't have the telltale click, but if you're a key-basher, they can still be loud. If you find you hate'em or they're too loud, there's not too many membrane keyboards that have the "tanky" feeling of a mech. You might already be at the top of the heap with the Lycosa.

HP Wireless Elite v2 - $30

> Good for programming (So lot's of typing)
> Laptop style ('scissor-switch')
> Is wireless or bluetooth
> Full size (meaning, includes numberpad)
> Backlit is not required but would be awesome to have
> Keys spaced not too far apart

Hits all requirements but a backlight - but let's be honest, you don't really want to be running that on battery power anyway.

I was going to get it for my mom, but apparently there are issues with the solder holding the mini usb. It's not very well done, and comes apart very easily according to the reviews. I'm probably going to go with this one . It's the cheapest one, it seems to be the best bang for buck.

Hmm, well, then it looks like you're going to be using cherry mx reds ;) Unless you're very handy with a soldering iron, then you will have to use reds. Don't worry though, they do feel very nice. And if you dont like it then you can return it and buy from amazon with cherry mx blues.

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00CD1FC6G

You can select what switch type you want.

If you're looking for a mechanical keyboard, this keyboard is right up your alley.

There's a mouse in the box as well, but it seems to be of low quality. Nevertheless, a wireless mechanical keyboard for $110 is a very good buy.

The Cherry MX Brown switches that the keyboard uses are great for both typing and gaming, as they offer a quiet tactile bump to tell you when the key is being pressed. This "bump" also eliminates any accidental keystrokes.

Good choice. Yeah, I started with a Cyborg, not bad, but now way overpriced. You also clearly know how to shop around. OP, here are Amazon links with reviews: Monoprice, Max Nighthawk, Max Durandel G1NL

And here's a site OP can search through for red led backlighting: mechanicalkeyboards.com

The most popular red/black switch keyboards that are in my price range and that are actually for sale in my area are:

• Steelseries 6Gv2
  
• CM Storm QuickFire Pro (Red Switch)
  
• Corsair Vengeance K60 (FPS keyboard, I mainly play MMORPG)
  
• CM Storm QuickFire TK
  
  With a quick look, would you think that these are better than the Rocat, if so, which one has your preference?
  

Your best bet is the corsair K90. It has back-light, 18 macro keys, USB port, dedicated media keys, and a wrist rest. It also has Cherry MX Reds, which are considered to be a "gaming" switch.

First off try doing the o-ring modification with these. I found that it cut down on the sound of my mech keyboard and made the keyboard a bit nicer to type on.

If you really want to bail on mechanical though I use this for coding at work and I really like it for that. Otherwise I actually really like apple's usb keyboard with the numpad.

I use a full sized wrist rest with my TKL boards. I use the extra space on the right for my mouse. Works great.

I would say blues may or may not bother others next to you. Why not try out your das for a day or two and see what others think?

There certainly are washable keyboards, for medical use - for instance, the Logitech K310. Some more expensive ones have circuitry which makes cleaning easier (Cherry J84-2120 for instance - don't know if that one has volume controls). Keyboard Company will deliver to the EU and are well-regarded. Or have a look at WetKeys.

Alternatively, if you're particular about the feel, you might like to look at Hall-effect keyboards. There's a Chinese one with a waterproofed circuit board, made by Ace Pad Tech - the XMIT keyboard that's been on Massdrop is based on it. (The XMIT isn't completely washproof, some of the components are different.) Typing should feel noticeably smoother with these, as there's no silicone shielding to affect the feel. More info on Deskthority.

Here's an active adapter for just $14.

Using that with the Model M I'm typing on right now. You might want to get a short (6") USB extension cable with it too.

That went over your budget? That's okay, here's an IBM Model M for $60

Das Keyboards are quite good specifically the Das Keyboard 4 Ultimate or the Das Keyboard 4 Professional. You can buy them with Cherry MX Brown, which are quite quiet in comparison with the Cherry MX Blue. The thing that these two keyboards don't have, for you, is the backlighting. Sorry. They're also on the more expensive side, around $165-170.

You can also buy the Corsair Vengeance K70, you can either buy them with MX Browns or MX Reds, both of them are non-clicky. This keyboard fits your specifications. The backlighting is red, not sure if you would like it. It costs around $115.

Yeah they do. The least expensive CM Storm keyboard is the Quickfire Rapid with Cherry MX Blue's. here.

There's also a Quickfire Rapid with Blacks seen here. And another one with Red's seen here..

There's also the CM Storm Pros which come in Black / Blue/ Brown/ Red with partial backlighting and a 10-key pad.

Then there's the CM Storm Trigger which comes in all Black / Blue/ Brown/ Red as well with full backlighting and a 10-key pad.

Actually I just looked into Perrix and found https://www.amazon.com/Perixx-PERIBOARD-407B-Mini-Keyboard-Dimension/dp/B0053O9ZNQ this looks pretty good.

I found a similar keyboard on Amazon made by HP and I used that to base measurements off of. I do not know what you use your computer for but unfortunately most backlit keyboards are geared to gamers. I've never used any of these keyboards but they are from respected manufactures. If I were you I'd read through a couple reviews on each to get a better understanding of what to expect from the keyboard.

Cooler Master Storm Devastator w/ mouse $29.99

This one is .2" longer, .4" narrower, .4" taller than your current keyboard


Corsair Raptor k30 $39.99

This one is .9" longer, .9" wider, .4" taller.

If you were to up your budget $10.

SteelSeries Apex Raw $49.99

2.97" longer, 2.5" wider, 1.05" taller.

I have used this one and I can say that I didn't care for the keys but I do use a mechanical board so take that with a grain of salt.

If you were to up your budget $25-30. (At this point it might be better to start looking at low end mechanicals.)

Corsair Raptor k40 $59.99

1.8" longer, 2.5" wider, .8" taller

Logitech Illuminated Ultrathin $59.99

I don't think the dimensions for this one are right because Amazon says it's 3 inches tall but it's sold as an ultrathin keyboard?

Microsoft SideWinder x4 $68.80

2.1" longer, 2.4" wider, 1.4" taller

Pretty sure it's this one

Do you have a budget or anything?

Amazon sells filcos with blacks.

http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-2-Keyboard-FKBN104ML-EB2/dp/B0053U3Z8G/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1343977178&sr=8-3&keywords=filco+majestouch+2

CMStorm also has the quickfire TK or the Pro, depending on what layout you want.

http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-QuickFire-TK-Mechanical/dp/B00A378L10/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1374536302&sr=8-1&keywords=quickfire+tk+brown

http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-QuickFire-Pro-Mechanical/dp/B007VDOOBU/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374536337&sr=1-3&keywords=quickfire+brown

Or for something a little more plain, here is a rosewill.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201042

Also look into steelseries, I believe they have a model with browns.

Cooler master is a solid choice in terms of build quality and price. They come in a full size keyboard (xt) and without a numeric pad (tkl) if that matters to you.

In terms of switches. it's purely preference, I would hit up a computer store to try out different switches if they have gaming keyboards available. MX reds, blues, and browns are all different typing experiences, there are other switches but these are the most common. You could also pickup a switch tester and try them before you invest in a board:

http://www.amazon.com/WASD-6-Key-Cherry-Switch-Tester/dp/B00AZQKCD4

If you want to try out some "cheap" o-rings check out this. They are a harder then the stuff that you can snag from WASD, but I actually prefer them over the ones from the Sampler Kit my brother got from them.

Try these O-rings.

Edit: The size 008 of these is a bit softer.

I didn't have any issues using my Model M on my desktop with an ASRock motherboard and my Dell Optiplex at work. However, I do own the blue cube adapter just in case, and have used it with a few different keyboards and it worked 100%

Here's the amazon link

Have you considered this?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0000U1DJ2?pc_redir=1411222389&robot_redir=1

can someone tell me why this keyboard so expensive for a Membrane switch keyboard?
http://www.amazon.com/Happy-Hacking-Keyboard-Lite2-Black/dp/B0000U1DJ2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342112856&sr=8-1&keywords=happy+hacking

This is the opposite of mechanical, but one of the few keyboards I'd consider spill proof and still usable: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Washable-Keyboard-K310-Windows/dp/B008D1JRIO

Rosewill through newegg $90

Filco Majestouch2 TKL $140

CM Quickfire $70

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0053U3Z8G/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_g147_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=13FEPSKRTZ3R3JA2XB61&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846

Its $10 cheaper too......

There are standalone keyboards with scissor switches available:

http://www.amazon.com/HP-Wireless-Elite-Keyboard-v2/dp/B005HNHRA6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1458254695&sr=8-2&keywords=scissor+keyboard

I'm not sure what you mean by arrows, insert, etc within the "main section" but after a quick Google search, I found this.

I have some 40A o-rings on a Filco with cherry blues and it doesn't feel like a rubber dome (just makes it a bit more springy). You can use harder 50A o-rings if you're worried about it feeling too mushy.

http://www.amazon.com/XArmor-U9W-wireless-mechanical-keyboard/dp/B004S862FW

It's XArmor, so the build quality will be questionable. I'd only buy this if you know trouble signs to look for (key chatter, loose connections, poor soldering, etc.) and can get an easy-to-use return policy.