Shitty image.

Just finished building the $350 24-thread powerhouse, with a few minor adjustments. I picked up the Thermaltake F31 instead, as I really wanted a non-LED case, and this one has sound-dampening material which cuts down on the dual CPU fan noise.

I also had to pick up an EPS splitter since the 650 only has one. Would have been better to go with the EVGA 750 for power instead, as that has everything this motherboard needs.

Had 24GB of RAM from an old desktop build, so I didn't need to buy that. HDD is a 256GB Crucial M100, and have 10TB of spinning rust for larger amounts of data storage.

Media is stored on a DroboFS w/ 5 x 4TB WD Reds.

If I were doing it all over again, I'd also replace the CPU fans with Cooler Master 212s, as the Intel ones are so large (and square), that they overlap with one another and I needed to remove the fan shield in order to get them to fit.

Currently running Plex, SteamCache, DNS, and a few other things, all running via Docker and provisioned via Ansible.

The OEM for this unit is Delta Electronics. The following are reviews of the 850W version of this PSU, since I can't find any for the 750W one:

JonnyGuru
TechPowerUp
TweakTown

I posted a comment comparing this to other viable options in another thread I just posted about the semi-modular HCG-850M.

At this price it competes with the EVGA 750G2, which is on Amazon right now for $90 without mail-in rebate. Since these are both top-tier, fully modular units, the decision between the two comes down to whether you're willing to pay an extra $10 to avoid a $20 rebate.

My choice

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00IKDETOW/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?qid=1450426191&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX118_SY170_QL70&keywords=evga+power+supply&dpPl=1&dpID=51VBQdIVkOL&ref=plSrch

This :)

750 watts should be fine. This one is pretty good.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_JVh5Bb88K8XEF

Can someone tell me how this is better than this psu? Was about to purchase the evga unit but not sure if it’s good compared to this.
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1540587529&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=evga+750w+g2&dpPl=1&dpID=51VBQdIVkOL&ref=plSrch

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=sr_1_1?s=software&ie=UTF8&qid=1464573103&sr=8-1&keywords=evga+750+g2 $109 with prime shipping, shipping will be $20 or more(I shipped a psu not too long ago only 1 state away and it was like $18 already)

Heres the build:

CPU: $135 : e5 2670 v1 (x2)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0163AWD96/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used


MOBO: $ 361 : Asus Z9PA-D8

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-Intel-LGA-Motherboard-Z9PA-D8-ASMB6-IKVM/dp/B00BRF7DAC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1461960263&sr=8-1&keywords=z9pa-d8

Ram: $305 : Kingston 16gb ddr3 ecc (x4)

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=W64GER16K&c=CJ

Case: $94 : Rosewill 4U Rack

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147155&cm_re=4u_case-_-11-147-155-_-Product

CPU Coolers : $46 : Cooler Master Hyper T4 (x2)

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BSKY1M4/?tag=pcpapi-20

Storage: $64 : Crucial 240gb ssd

http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-BX200-240GB-Internal-Solid/dp/B016JREGAC/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1461961476&sr=1-1&keywords=crucial+ssd

PSU: $99 : EVGA Supernova 750

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1461965314&sr=1-1&keywords=evga+750w


Total: $1104.00

Brand new 750 G2 for 128.82 + tax = $144.27 shipped to BC.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00IKDETOW/?tag=pcp0f-20

Also on Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKDETOW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00IKDETOW/ref=s9_acsd_simh_bw_c_x_2_w?pf_rd_m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-6&pf_rd_r=V63KP3QKYYYPQ05BEQXB&pf_rd_r=V63KP3QKYYYPQ05BEQXB&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=5f5c8d56-89f9-44b3-bcf0-5517786ea0b9&pf_rd_p=5f5c8d56-89f9-44b3-bcf0-5517786ea0b9&pf_rd_i=677273011

get this for $20 more, very futureproof

You're probably better off building around the NATEX combo. This used to be just under $500, but $608 currently for: http://www.natex.us/Intel-S2600CP-Motherboard-Package-Deal-p/intel-s2600cp2j-128gb.htm

• Intel S2600CP Motherboard w/ Dual E5-2670 SR0KX
  
• 128GB (16 x 8GB) 2Rx4 PC3L-10600R ECC DIMM
  
  Other stuff you'd need:
  
  4U case, $95: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0056OUTBK/
  
  Power supply, $103:
  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKDETOW/
  
  2x CPU coolers, $58/ea:
  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TBHYYFK/
  
  That takes you to $922 without storage for a beefier setup (16 cores, 128GB ECC). For storage, the easiest route will multiple SSDs, with VMs split across each. Just make sure you have nightly backups if you go with no redundancy on storage itself.
  

With the chassis you chose, and the socket, these coolers will work (I have the same case and similar socket): https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16835608042

Technically, the 120mm version of that cooler will fit, but only if you get lucky. The top of the 120mm cooler has heat pipes that have been crimped off and sealed. If one of those heat pipe crimps is too high, you wont be able to close the lid on the chassis (speaking from experience).

Don't skimp on power, it is the lifeblood of the system. Get something like this instead: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKDETOW The link you provided for the Xeons is for the RAM, so I don't know how much power consumption you will have, or how many drives you wish to spin up. The 750w power supply will be sufficient, and give you some headroom in case you want to fill all 15 drives bays, 2x HBA cards, and a 10g NIC later down the road. .

Word of warning on the case; it's awesome for the price, but has ZERO cable management. It will be tough to have a neat build. Also, the weight of the case by itself, is enough to bend/bow the long side of the case. Always properly support the case when you pick it up. Aaaaaaaaannd, the fans are absolute trash.

Budget wise, if you have too choose, spend more on the power supply than the coolers.

Good luck!

Yeah.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKDETOW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I installed it before replacing the new GPU.

Amazon has the 750w at $109 with a $10 MIR, which brings it down to $99.

Link

I'd personally pay 10 dollars more and get the SuperNOVA 750 G2, but only because I've made good experiences with it. The GS should be an excellent choice too, and the price is also good. The G2 series is based on the Super Flower Leadex platform, while the GS series is based on a Sea Sonic platform. Both are well-known for their reliability.

Having an extra 4-pin atx connector won't give you any issues as you'll only need the 8 pin for your CPU connection.


If you're looking for a good gold psu then something like these would be good:


https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-RM750x-Certified-Modular-Supply/dp/B079HGN5QS/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=750w+psu&qid=1572035995&sr=8-3

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Supernova-Modular-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=750w+psu&qid=1572036155&sr=8-4

The thermaltake one is probably fine too, but I don't know a whole lot about the quality of their psus.

I have the gigabyte z170 gaming 7 and it is a fantastic board!! It is very good looking and has every feature I would need in my mobo. The only bad thing about these motherboards are the UEFI BIOS it is just okay nothing fancy or amazing and easy to move around with so since u have a windowed case Id go for what you find more pleasing to look at and matches with your build! Other than that I would get a different power supply an evga gs/g2 psu will do you just fine and there is one on sale right now at amazon! http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW

Another thing you may consider is getting an r9 390 unless you are set on nvidia the 390 will be a smarter buy (whichever one is cheaper is better but if they are both the same price the 390 is a better buy).

The samsung evo 850 is also cheaper than that SSD

Rule of thumb:

Any mother that has a Z like a Z97 is meant for overclocking whereas H series are just standard.

Like I said I built a pic last weekend with an i5 4690 and an ASRock H97 Pro4 and it went flawless so you wouldn't be disappointed there.

Edit: plus it would match your RAM.

Second edit: you might be pushing it with 450watt and a r9 380. If you can afford it, I can recommend the EVGA G2 series enough. Top tier in terms of quality and fully modular so cable management is a breeze. I would look for other builds and see if anyone has gone 450watt with that video cards.


Power supply recommendation:
EVGA 220-G2-0550-Y1 80 PLUS GOLD 550W ECO Mode Fully Modular NVIDIA SLI Ready and Crossfire Support Continuous Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=17-438-053

Another edit:
Even better, the 750watt version of the G2 is the same price as the 550watt version on Amazon.

EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2 80+ GOLD, 750W ECO Mode Fully Modular NVIDIA SLI and Crossfire Ready 10 Year Warranty Power Supply 220-G2-0750-XR https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_qsyHwb8X08VYH

I'd recommend EVGA. I've read/heard nothing but good things, been using mine for about a year now and zero issues. Corsair is also great stuff. Never had a bad experience.

What I have: link

You should not be using a CX for a decently high end build like this. [Much better] (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW)
And are you willing to get a 390 over the 970? Performance between the two cards are almost the same but the 390 has more VRAM, allowing for higher textures and 1440p will be a little smoother.

You really don't want to get CX PSU.

Source

This one would be way better and also currently around the same price.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IKDETOW

PCPartpicker link

No. Never cheap out on a PSU. If a hard graphics card fails, you loose a graphics card, if a cpu fails, you loose a cpu. If a PSU fails you will potentially be destroying all of the components in your system.

Try this one: http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Builder-Series-Bronze-Certified/dp/B008RJZQSW/ . The Corsair Power Supplies are very popular within the build market and this one is 80+ bronze certified meaning it has been through extensive testing and will perform as expected.

This one also seems to be reliable: http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-80PLUS-Certified-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/

5820K is the as the the 5930K but with slightly lower clock speed and the 5930K has 40 PCIE lanes vs the 5820Ks 28 PCIE lanes so it only matters with quad SLI because the 5820K doesn't support quad SLI but it supports 3-way SLI.

Also it is $200 cheaper don't know what the is in pounds but you get the point.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rctaLgK5stA

Edit:

You should look into the EVGA SuperNOVA G2, they are really good quality

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-80PLUS-Certified-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW

Also maybe a multicore Xeon is better at rendering video but also more expensive

Add $20 to your price point for an 80+ Gold EVGA 750w PSU, fully modular, manufactured by seasonic and with a 10 year warranty

Hello! I have an EVGA supernova GOLD 750watt modular I can sell for $85 plus shipping. Should be the last PSU you'll ever need 😀

EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2, 80+ GOLD 750W, Fully Modular, EVGA ECO Mode, 10 Year Warranty, Includes FREE Power On Self Tester Power Supply 220-G2-0750-XR https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_YnGJDbM3XYRBB

Well, if you want a recommendation, I'd say this one. It's a bit on the pricey side, but it's also extremely good quality, and should last you for quite some time.

But really, anything 550W+ with at least one 8-Pin PCIe power connector should work fine.

you will need a motherboard that supports m.2 or you could save a couple of dollars and just get a 2.5" SSD.
https://www.amazon.ca/Samsung-Internal-Solid-2-5-Inch-Vertical/dp/B00LMXBOP4/ref=sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&qid=1467982330&sr=8-23&keywords=intel+ssd


I'd also recommend getting a fully modular power supply. Then you won't have to try to hid the cables you don't need in your case.
https://www.amazon.ca/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Certified-ATX12V-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1467982378&sr=1-2

Edit: didn't see the motherboard there. you'll want a z170 motherboard if you plan to overclock. If you don't plan to overclock then that cooler is way overkill and there are much cheaper options on the market. Also I have that cooler and I have to replace the NZXT fans on it every 6 months. Just a head's up but it has a really long warranty.

Something like this.

PSUs are rated at bronze, silver, gold, plat, or something like that

edit: If you are using one GPU, you can pick a 550W or 650W depending on which deal is better

You would need a 750w psu for GTX 1080 SLI. The EVGA 750G2 would be my choice. I would also go with this motherboard.

You are correct in that the AMD cards require more power. You would likely need at least 850w for Crossfire (with the current TDP).

I just upgraded from a gtx 660 to a gtx 1070, and now my pc randomly restarts after gaming just a few minutes. I looked it up and I think it might be because my power supply is not strong enough or it is pretty much dead-- it is at least 4 years old like the rest of my pc and only has a 3 year warranty. I was wondering how big of a power supply I should get to run my build considering my cpu is overclocked to 4.8 ghz and I might overclock the 1070 a bit more than the factory oc. I am looking at the EVGA SuperNova G2 750 or 650.

Here is my current build. (I also have a M.2 ssd with an adapter and some headphones powered by the pc not listed.)

Thanks guys!

All looks good, I would suggest getting this power supply instead

Newegg link

Amazon link

simply because it has a proven track record for being reliable (291 reviews on newegg at 5 star average and tons of amazon reviews). Another thing would be to wait on the GTX 960 until the benchmarks come out on the Radeon RX 480 because it is the same price and the 480 could perform better.

I'm partial to the EVGA PSU's, suggest a 750w or higher, here is an example through [Amazon] (https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW) - Not a referral link, you can google prices across the web, this is only one example of what I use on my dual PSU setup.

For less messy amazon links you can extract the part after "/dp/" in

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1484246814&sr=8-2&keywords=evga+g2

and make it:

https://amzn.com/B00IKDETOW

Or via smile link:

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00IKDETOW

BEEP BOP

Plz send any recommendations via PM

I always suggest viewing your PSU as an insurance policy...a PSU can easily fry a system if you aren't careful and I have seen it more than once where someone spends a ton of money on a top tier system and goes cheap on PSU just to have it brick their system. I would suggest getting a new one unless you would rather potentially spend the money on a completely new system.

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1485294185&sr=1-2&keywords=750w+power+supply&refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_browse-bin%3A2888290011

something like that will work probably. It is gold certified and cheap enough and you get the same 750W you have now.

I am planning to do this setup but with the new GTX 1060. Can someone recommend me a good power supply. I have plans for a future desktop, but I will build it slowly. I was thinking a EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2 80+ GOLD, 750W ECO for my future desktop. Do you think buying it for this initial setup is a good idea?

Will do. I placed an order for an EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2 with same day shipping. Should be here later today. I'll swap the psu and graphics card when I get home from work and report back.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00IKDETOW/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1449378414&sr=8-3&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=750w&dpPl=1&dpID=51VBQdIVkOL&ref=plSrch

This?

Just bought this, is this one fine?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKDETOW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00

I think it may be faulty - I originally thought it was PSU so I upgraded from a 620W system to the below 750W PSU, and behavior has not changed at all.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKDETOW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

I had the same thing happen to me with my 2 year old corsair 750w when I got an r9 fury for sale last month.Don't get another corsair. Get this Evga instead https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00IKDETOW/ref=sxts1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481349206&sr=1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65

If the high quality of this doesn't surprise you at least the 10 year warranty it has should.

Yeah - they are definitely for breakout boards - didn't look like it. Glad nothing was fried. That being said planning on using:

EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2, 80+ GOLD 750W x2 for 8x 1080s

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKDETOW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Edit: That's exactly it - didn't see the difference in wires :|

Thanks for the input! After using MSI Afterburner to limit the power to the GPU, the stability test no longer resets the computer. Temperatures don't seem out of the ordinary. I ordered a new [PSU] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKDETOW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00) which will hopefully fix the issue.

I was able to get [this] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKDETOW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER) one for $20 more. Do you think this one is adequate?

So i made an alternate pcpartpicker list for you that is more focused on intel. the 9600k is much better for gaming than 2700x, just keep that in mind (Despite it having less cores)

Here are my thoughts. Just know im a little biased towards intel over ryzen at this budget

would you consider a slightly faster processor. My build was the same except I got a 9600k with a noctua nh-d15

the 9600k will make your computer much more upgradeable in the future and you wont have to rebuild as often. you'll also be able to oc it much more


Other notes: Powersupply is def too expensive

if you are student try and see if you can get student version of office. all you need is a .edu address

Big One: CHECK AMAZONWAREHOUSE for used monitors. A lot of times they run the used price -20% of base price of total monitor after you put it in shopping cart. i got ASUS ROG PG279Q for like 280 on there. the ASUS ROG PG279Q does not have that special deal right now but another 1440p 144hz+ monitor might.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00N2L5CXO/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all

for monitor you picked on amazon used deals (there is no special 20% off on that monitor right now)

Ram: Your RAM is massively overkill but it is a good choice for 2700x.. Only get that RAM if you get an AMD. I still would recommend 9700k or 9600k imo over that, but i am biased towards intel so keep that in mind. just remmeber you can save some money on ram if you get intel. Also, I only have 8 gb of ram and it works fine with my build and things i do (Gaming)

-That motherboard seems a bit pricey for ryzen, but I dont really know about ryzen boards. I just know that htey are generally cheaper than intel boards and that MB is running hte same price as my intel board

-don't get that cooler. just use stock cooler. I think someone else already said it but the stock cooler is fine with ryzen. only get a cooler for ryzen if you get a good one

Note: power supplies are really cheap on amazon warehouse right now

check out used version of this power supply
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKDETOW/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_3?smid=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&psc=1#

it is much higher quality and is same price as your power supply but is

Overall pick this build if you are primarily gaming imo

Depends on what you want to do in the future. For your current build, you could use any 500 watt bronze rated power supply with good reviews.

But if you want to future proof your system (maybe you want to run some 290's in CROSSFIRE later on), I recommend an ~800 watt gold rated PSU.

Generally, the higher wattage you need, the higher rating your PSU should be (bronze, gold, platinum, etc)

Here are some examples of good ones

500 watt bronze:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ALK3HF4/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1414173887&sr=8-2&pi=SX200_QL40

750 watt gold (recommended for systems with nvidia SLI setups)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00IKDETOW/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?qid=1414173817&sr=8-7&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70


860 watt platinum (for ppl who want to run 2 power hungry cards like the 290x) - I bought this one.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00A0HZMKG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1414174127&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40

Remember that your PSU is an investment. Play your cards right, and it will be good for 10 years or more. Get something modular in the 500-750 watt range that's modular, with good reviews.

Actually it's this one!

If just for gaming, save the $100 and get the 6600k. If you don't plan on OC the CPU, go for the 6500.

This is a better PSU and comes with a 10 yr warranty.

What's your GPU of choice?

Evga

Well I would recommend getting a fully modular gold psu (they are more convenient and only about 20 bucks more
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00IKDETOW/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1484596515&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=750w+gold&dpPl=1&dpID=51VBQdIVkOL&ref=plSrch
)

Plus may I ask why you chose a 980ti over a 1080?

I believe this is my powersupply. https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW

Thanks, the one from Amazon is just $3 more, so I will do that. Is this (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-80PLUS-Certified-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW) The one you had i mind?

This is the friend that helped him put this together. I gave him the following alternatives should he not care for the price difference and more for the aesthetics. How do you feel about these?

• [G.Skillz Ripjaws] (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231538&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Desktop+Memory-_-N82E16820231538&gclid=CjwKEAjw25SoBRCMn7Gc97Knj0ISJAC7vaMrr9HiFp_sU3YPG3oxepSiCbPccLopsyzNpoVMwoVnoxoCPcfw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds)
  
• Crucial MX100
  
• EVGA Supernova 750W
  
  By no means am I experienced, but I admit, I'm brand-loyal and can confirm I'm a Corsair fangirl. On a side note, he's going for a blue and black color scheme. Thanks!

Corsair

EVGA

Thank you For the response i'm torn between these 2 psu's
[G2L] (https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B01LZRC35X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1478693616&sr=8-2&keywords=evga%2Bg2&th=1)
or G2

If you have a suggestion on which one i should get please let me know.
EDIT: idk y but the text isnt glowing they are links to psu if u click them

I've had good luck with EVGA's PSUs so far. Decent price for the quality (I specifically got this one).

Maybe that montior has some specific thing about it making it better, but I think you can get a similar one for cheaper: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=1920x1080+144Hz+Monitor+24inch

G2 (older version of PSU) basically the same but cheaper: https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1502726558&sr=8-3&keywords=gold+modular+psu

Cheaper similar quality RAM: https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2400MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B017NW5NZY/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1502726630&sr=1-3&keywords=ddr4+2400

Cheaper MoBo Options: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=msi+mother+baord+ddr4+lga1151&rh=n%3A172282%2Ck%3Amsi+mother+baord+ddr4+lga1151

That gpu man, $600 get something cheaper, I promise that 1 year from now you will feel silly having spent $600 on just a GPU.

This one. These are solid power supplies manufactured by Super Flower. Fully modular so you can manage your cables better. You won't be disappointed.

Same price, 100W more.

Review. Damn near perfect PSU.

I'd swap to a

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131672

and a



http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=twister_B00NAQB7S0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1. Still on sale. get it while it's hot. BTW Great PSU.

This PSU is $89.99 on Amazon and shipping would be muchhhh cheaper than NCIX.

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1451545024&sr=8-1&keywords=evga+g2

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW

10 dollars cheaper and has good reviews.

You can get an EVGA SUPERNOVA G2 750 watt for $99.99 at [Amazon] (EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2 80+ GOLD, 750W ECO Mode Fully Modular NVIDIA SLI and Crossfire Ready 10 Year Warranty Power Supply 220-G2-0750-XR https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_IeFRwbGSJ597A).

PSU update to: http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW

upgrade to 250gb ssd for $20 more: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147372

So I should get this http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IKDETOW/?tag=pcpapi-20

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1453565424&sr=1-5&keywords=power+supply&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A6906986011%7C6906987011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_browse-bin%3A2888290011

So this one should do well?

The build now has a 1200 which is completely overkill, so I'm gonna sell that one and recoup some of the cost and pick up a 750 instead. Do you have any recommendations? http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00IKDETOW and http://smile.amazon.com/Corsair-Modular-Bronze-ATX12V-CP-9020099-NA/dp/B00OVCJKWC are the two I'm eyeing.

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/

EVGA 750 G2. $90 at Amazon. (cheaper than the 650w for some reason) Excellent PSU. 10 year warranty. Can't beat it under $100.

Antec HCP750 Platinum for $80 after rebate.

There are a variety of reviews for the 850W model, and it's one of the best possible PSUs you can buy for that wattage. It was largely slammed for its $200+ retail price, but at under $100, I think you ignore that.

There's the EVGA G2 750W for $90 with no rebates required. Almost as good as the HCP, just giving another option.

If you actually need the extra 100W, then the GS is going to offer you the best value.

ASUS ATX DDR3 2600 LGA 1150 Motherboard Z97-E/USB 3.1
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Motherboard-Z97-E-USB-3-1/dp/B00VBKLX9A/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1450898277&sr=1-4&keywords=atx+ddr3+2600+lga+1150

Intel Core i5-4690 Processor (6M Cache, 3.5 GHz upto 3.90 GHz) BX80646I54690
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-4690-Processor-Cache-BX80646I54690/dp/B00JST2QEW/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1450899300&sr=1-2&refinements=p_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A2289793011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_four_browse-bin%3A7107927011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A6899523011

MSI R9 390 GAMING 8G Graphics Card
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-R9-390-GAMING-8G/dp/B00ZGF0UAE/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1450899401&sr=1-1&refinements=p_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A6066318011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A6147184011


Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB 2x8GB DDR3 2400MHz PC3 19200 Desktop, Red CMY16GX3M2A2400C11R
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2400MHz-Desktop-CMY16GX3M2A2400C11R/dp/B00EUPV2RQ/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1450898728&sr=1-5&refinements=p_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A677429011%2Cp_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A2253866011

Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-75E500B/AM)
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E500B-AM/dp/B00OBRE5UE/ref=lp_1292116011_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1450899719&sr=1-1

EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2 80+ GOLD, 750W ECO Mode Fully Modular NVIDIA SLI and Crossfire Ready 10 Year Warranty Power Supply 220-G2-0750-XR
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=lp_1161760_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1450899873&sr=1-2
A little over a grand.. thoughts?

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g20750xr

this is what i am running in my current build

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IKDETOW/?tag=pcpapi-20

there is the amazon link i am using the G2 model and i am 100% this is made by powerflower and it has an eco mode so the fan wont spin on low draw systems. love the thing

And evga has legendary customer service.

So my new build would look like this?:

CPU: https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Cooler-YD1600BBAEBOX/dp/B07146LS4H/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1503762379&sr=1-1&keywords=ryzen%2B5%2B1600&th=1

MOBO: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813144018

PSU: https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=zg_bs_1161760_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=N82TVF42PV50366DQCSG

RAM: 2 DD4 4G

Would I need to get any other items (Such as a fan or something) and I could installl all of this by myself fairly easily right? (I installed my GPU, which wasn't too hard, nothing much more difficult than that right?)

Here Corsair

Evga

for your GPU, the Gigabyte 970 is your best bet, for power supplies, go EVGA supernova

This is a great PSU.

That's coo' EVGA makes good power supplies. I have this one in my system: https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491428771&sr=8-1&keywords=evga+supernova+750 I've no issues with it and it's cheaper than the one you linked to.

I'd like to keep my options open for overclocking, I'm glad to spend a little more for a 750W model. The EVGA G2 looks pretty good, I will probably get that one! Thank you for your comment.

I just recently purchased this 750W PSU along with my GTX 980. Will this PSU be sufficient for SLI if I decide to pick up another GTX 980 later?

The PC itself is power by a power supply like this. The power supply is what plugs into the wall.

Yeah, I am already looking @ this : https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW

thanks i will get a different psu https://www.amazon.ca/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Certified-ATX12V-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1458511021&sr=8-1&keywords=evga+g2

i am also going to overclock in a little while as i want to try it without overclocking first as i am not experienced

I would love to say that I have had no issue with the motherboard. I have had one. This motherboard in particular does not allow you to install Windows 7 from a USB drive or a USB optical drive. Here is the manual for the motherboard if you are curious.:

"Note: Due to chipset limitation, during the Windows 7 installation process, USB optical drives or USB flash drives are not supported."

Because I didn't have a Windows 10 license, I had to install Windows 7 first before I could upgrade. Which btw, if you are installing straight to Windows 8 or 10, you can use a flash drive/USB optical drive.

Other than that one issue, I am quite happy with it :)

Edit: I like your build. I was going to originally get the RAM you have chosen but when I was watching HardwareCanuck's YouTube channel and saw what RAM he had, I went ahead and went with the Avexir Core Series Blue because it matched the color scheme of my case. I am curious though, you don't want to go with the PSU that I chose? It's the same price as what you chose. I'm guessing you don't need that much power then, yeah?

Yes it is good enough.

Are you going to overclock?

There are also calculators that calculate psu watts due to your build

You can also get this psu

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-120-G1-0650-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW?th=1

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW?th=1

check r/buildapcsales every wednesday for evga mid week sales posts. yesterday sales had crazy deals on platinum/titanium grade psu

650W is already more than you need. You gain nothing by spending more for unused wattage. What price are you looking at for the G3 650W? Amazon has the G2 750W on sale for $79.99 (the same price as the G2 650W and it doesn't need a rebate to get that price). It's quieter than the G3 and still an excellent PSU.

I'm looking to replace my PSU but have it ready for a i7/high end mobo within the year. I definitely don't need anything more than 750/850 as I intend on going with one GPU probably about a 970.

I haven't much experience with Seasonic, and my last PSU is a Antec which has held up remarkably well.

Money isn't really a big deal as I want to make sure I have a solid PSU. What would you recommend EVGA or Seasonic. I'm looking at the G2 which is around 99$ on Amazon. Any recommendations?

Is this the model you have? http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1457031186&sr=8-1&keywords=G2+750W

> EVGA GS

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1457736497&sr=8-1&keywords=EVGA+G2


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• Status: RESOLVED
  
  
• GPU: EVGA 970 FTW+ No overclock
  
  
• CPU: i5-6600k @ 4.8GHZ / 1.31V
  
  
• Motherboard: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO BIOS Version 1202 (Yeah, I'm fully aware I'm about 100 versions behind, I'll update a bit later)
  
  
• RAM: G.SKILL 16GB (2x8) TridentZ 3200MHz
  
  
• PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2
  
  
• Operating System & Version: Windows 10 Version 1703, Build 15063.296
  
  
• GPU Drivers: 382.05
  
  
• Description of Problem: Shadowplay is gone, completely. Screenshot here.
  
  
• Troubleshooting: I've looked into this, there's a few threads from 14~ days ago, none of them have any fixes to it, except one thread had this video in it. I followed it completely, even did what another user said and reinstall experience, not open it, then follow the tutorial, that didn't work either.
  
  Also, "features" scrolls endlessly. Screenshot above
  
  EDIT: Welp, just as I'm done typing this it fixes itself. I guess the servers went down? Either way, shadowplay is fixed now.

> EVGA G2

haha - this is perfect. I picked this up right before I came back here to check comments.

Thanks for all the help!

Would this suffice for replacement of my current one?
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474311181&sr=8-1&keywords=evga+750w

> Corsair CS650M

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/CS650M/11.html

Cons:
Price is on the high side
Ripple at +12V could be lower
No MOV in the transient filter
Lower than the minimum allowed hold-up time

No, for 10 more bucks you can get an EVGA G2 750W which blows that out of the water with a 10year warranty.

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=380

Cons:
nothing

Unless these are unavailable where you are, then let us know where you are so we can suggest the next best thing, Seasonic, XFX, etc.

I think this is OP's build if anyone's wondering, with (guessing) amazon links:

Intel 4770k

ASUS STRIKER 4GB 760

8GB 1866MHz Corsair Vengeance Pro memory

2TB main hdd

500GB storage hdd

64GB ssd for caching the main drive


NZXT H440

NZXT Kraken X61 closed-loop cooler

EVGA SuperNova G2 750W PSU

ASUS Z97-PRO mobo

Welp, if you're interested in something with a little more quality, I have a EVGA 750G2 for sale for $70 shipped.

EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2

Thanks for the reply! That's troubling. What about EVGAs 750 G2? https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW

For the love of god, don't SLI on a CX model PSU, or any of the virtually identical VS/CS models either.

Either just get a good unit and use one GPU, or get a better unit simply put.

This unit is essentially the best in terms of price-performance (or quality for that matter), has 4x PCI connectors (they're 8 pins, but the final 2 split off if necessary), and it's a superb quality unit so you can be near certain that it won't explode under heavy load, unlike the CX line.

If you're going with a single GPU,

H440 is a good choice.

That PSU however is not.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html
This shows it as a tier 3. Plus for actually less money, you can get a fully modular tier one with the same wattage:

EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2 80+ GOLD, 750W ECO Mode Fully Modular NVIDIA SLI and Crossfire Ready 10 Year Warranty Power Supply 220-G2-0750-XR https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_VNLExb1KGHB1Z

This is my powersupply

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01

you should really just give what i said a try: http://smile.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1463526735&sr=1-1&keywords=evga+750

7" length instead of a vague "standard" description by the manufacturer. many things stay the same from psu to psu but the length is definitely not always the constant. if you do some research, you will definitely find that the standard length of an atx psu is actually 6".

ps hover over the 650 and 550 for a very easy size comparison. those are your standard sizes.

without the MIR in the equation, a G2 750W gold is 128 on amazon, and you can price match with mikes for $116 pre-tax using the coupon code.
PSU with 100W extra power for about the same price if not counting the MIR
https://www.amazon.ca/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW

Yea i was looking at the g2. EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2, 80+ GOLD 750W, Fully Modular, EVGA ECO Mode, 10 Year Warranty, Includes FREE Power On Self Tester Power Supply 220-G2-0750-XR https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_ozVaAb8ERV47K

I would like to upgrade my video card and power supply this weekend. I'm thinking of getting the EVGA 750 80+ Gold power supply. I am not sure what video card I should get to play Witcher 3 and other recent games at 1080p 60 fps. What do you guys recommend? My CPU is unclocked by the way. Thanks for the help!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor |-
Motherboard | ASRock Fatal1ty Z97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard |-
Memory | A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory |-
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive |-
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive |-
Video Card | EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card |-
Case | Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case | $49.94 @ Amazon
Power Supply | Cooler Master Elite V2 550W ATX Power Supply | $55.32 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $105.26
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-26 20:33 EDT-0400 |

I appreciate the fast response. I have decided to go with this one EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2 80+ GOLD, 750W ECO Mode

why do you want that psu in particular?

evga has 550w psu's for cheaper, and the quality is still there

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1466582406&sr=8-2&keywords=evga+psu

Hi!

Thanks so much for the advice, I'm happy to hear I won't need a full tower. That's a relief!

Just to confirm, this is the PSU I'd swap it out for: Does this work?

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CPU | [i7-6700k] (https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Unlocked-Skylake-Processor-BX80662I76700K/dp/B012M8LXQW/ref=lp_2529650011_1_6?srs=2529650011&ie=UTF8&qid=1506920920&sr=8-6) |
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SSD | [Samsung 850 EVO 250GB] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OAJ412U/ref=od_aui_detailpages03?ie=UTF8&psc=1)|
Power Supply | [EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKDETOW/ref=od_aui_detailpages03?ie=UTF8&psc=1) |
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RAM | [Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2133MHz] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0123ZCD36/ref=od_aui_detailpages03?ie=UTF8&psc=1) |
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Keyboard | [Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2016] (https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Blackwidow-Ultimate-2016-Programmable/dp/B0163H5F30) |
Mouse | [Razer DeathAdder Chroma] (https://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Chroma-Multi-Color-Comfortable/dp/B00MYTSDU4) |
Webcam | [Logitech C615 webcam] (https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-960-000735-C615-HD-Webcam/dp/B0050FBI4C/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1514662339&sr=8-4&keywords=webcam+logitech+c615) |

Nah, that's bronze quality. Aim for gold when you're buying a new PSU.

As paranoid it may sound, it will save you and your computer the stress on the long run.

This is better for 20$ more.

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW

Phanteks Enthoo Evolv is popular, especially the Tempered Glass versions and that case comes in white, grey and black. These run from around $160 - 210 depending on which model and color)

There's also the Phanteks Enthoo Pro full tower case, do note that full towers are larger than ATX mid-towers. The Enthoo Pro comes with many rubber grommets and a PSU shroud and it's $99.


If you're trying to save a few bucks I think the NZXT S340 at $67 is a good choice as it's aesthetically pleasing with it's simple design, but it lacks rubber grommets and instead has a shroud that covers the cables, this case also has a PSU shroud with 2.5" drive (SSD) mounts.

If you want rubber grommets and a PSU shroud the Corsair Carbide Clear 400C would be a solid choice at $98.

I currently have the Corsair Obsidian Series 750D which I consider a good case but for the money there are better cases. Though it lacks a PSU shroud which may be a deal breaker for some. I'm actually using a semi-modular PSU as well, a holdover from my old Ivy Bridge build that I upgraded from (I have a PSU on the way) and the mess really shows on my case despite my best efforts to deal with it. http://i.imgur.com/3TiUAsG.jpg


For PSUs I have the EVGA SuperNOVA 850 P2 ordered, and I'll probably sleeve or buy some cables for it whenever I find the time to bother with it. The one I ordered is a bit expensive since it's 80+ Platinum rated. They have a 80+ Gold rated 750W unit which is $90 (the 650w one is $10 cheaper) EVGA, BitFenix and possibly others sell premade sleeved cable kits for ~$80 if you really want to keep it organized.

Corsair has a large lineup of power supplies of varying wattage, and Corsair sells sleeved cable kits for their fully modular power supplies as well. Corsair sells so many models I don't even know where to start they have their RM/RMi/RMx series, the AX/AXi, HX, SF so I'd check reviews to see if they meet your needs.

The Corsair and EVGA PSUs tend to be competitively priced so it's mostly down to which one is on sale (if any) and reviews.

The Seasonic M12II 620 BRONZE is a 620 watt, 80+ Bronze rated, fully modular power supply with a pair of 24 amp rails for $70. They also sell a 750W version that is $90 but you're better off going for an 80+ Gold PSU for a few dollars more since you'll end up making that money back via it's electricity savings.

If you have a lot of fans make sure to get a PMW splitter/hub otherwise you'll have some half dozen cables all over the palace plugged in to your motherboard, and my advice is to group cables together, either with twist ties or velcro cable ties (IMHO zip ties are too much of a PITA to undo). Route cable to the back, group them and tie them down. A PSU shroud allows you to be a bit lazy since it's a nice cubby-hole to hide your mess.