Best gun sights according to redditors
We found 800 Reddit comments discussing the best gun sights. We ranked the 214 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
We found 800 Reddit comments discussing the best gun sights. We ranked the 214 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
Depends on how much you're getting paid per kill. They're $429 with free shipping on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/EOTech-512-A65-Tactical-HOLOgraphic-Batteries/dp/B000KKFVRC
Build a complete AR-15 using the stripped lower linked in the OP for $35 plus the following parts:
Total: $380.50 shipped for an AR15
This isn't gonna be a nice AR by any means and in fact I expect it to come out looking pretty butt ugly, but it is an AR, and I would expect it to go pew if you assemble it correctly. Good luck!
Edit: The barrel in this build kit looks like it is a fluted, heavy, stainless 416R Bear Creek Arsenal barrel that sells for $95 on their website. It is the "better" 416R steel, according to their specs, and it is .223 Wylde with a 1:8" twist, so that combined with the free-floated handguard and you might actually be able to expect pretty decent groups.
Final Edit - 5/9/17 10:30 AM EDT
Lower receiver marked back up to $45 making this a $390.50 complete AR now. Deal marked NSFW as it no longer reflects the title price.
Ammoland has the MBUS set for 49.99 shipped.
https://www.ammoland.com/2019/06/magpul-gen2-mbus-front-rear-back-up-sights/#axzz5tKEWc8Vp
Romeo 5 can be found on amazon for $114.99 shipped:
https://www.amazon.com/Sig-Sauer-SOR52001-Romeo5-Compact/dp/B01C95I8N4
Total $165 shipped. PSA saves you $6.
Edit for clarity
PTR w/ 2 magazines - $1680
Sig Romeo 5 - $118
S&B 124 Gr 1k ammo - $160
Gloves - $20
= $1978
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I mean after shipping it'll come closer, but not really a "gotta whip out the credit card now" price.
DO NOT BUY THIS ONE!!!!!!
BUY THE ONE WITH 100'S OF REVIEWS
The one you listed could be a scam or a refurb, who knows with only 3 reviews, buy this one instead: https://www.amazon.com/Sig-Sauer-SOR52001-Romeo5-Compact/dp/B01C95I8N4/
Thank you so much!
The reflex sight is a cheapo off Amazon. I figure I'll upgrade it when I have a little more experience with the gun and a better idea of what I want.
$3 more on Amazon if you have prime and want 2 day shipping
https://www.amazon.com/EOTech-512-A65-Tactical-HOLOgraphic-Batteries/dp/B000KKFVRC/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1527784429&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=eotech&dpPl=1&dpID=41Artb5%2B39L&ref=plSrch
$368 on amazon
This ends up cheaper because this distributor doesn't charge tax. Of course you are supposed to claim that on your taxes at the end of the year...
Add a light mount.
A light
A dot.
A sling.
and good ammo.
And you’ve got yourself a good HD setup.
^(better prices found on /r/gundeals)
Built this rifle about a year ago. I finally got around to posting on here. This build was as budget as I could get without going too bare bones.
Lower:
Upper:
Accessories:
Amazon's price is currently 126.45 + tax
https://www.amazon.com/Sig-Sauer-SOR52001-Romeo5-Compact/dp/B01C95I8N4
https://www.amazon.com/Primary-Arms-Micro-Sight-Removable/dp/B00NC1G0KI/
Primary Arms is really the only brand in that price range thats worth a damn.
I'm the same way. As a fellow budget optic enthusiast, I feel compelled to tell you that the Field Sport micro red dot is, by far, the best budget optic I've ever used. The dot is crisp and bright, with no noticeable parallax past 25 yards. There are youtube videos of people beating the shit out of them, submerging them in water, freezing them, and putting them in a toaster oven with melted cheese, all without failure or POI shift. It's honestly so good I can't justify spending the money on any more expensive red dots except for a real Aimpoint T1, and only because of the T1's incredible battery life.
If you're in the US, you've got Evike, AirsoftGI, Amped Airsoft, and Airsoft Atlanta. There's probably more, but those are my go-tos.
For guns, I'd recommend CYMA VFC-clone AKs (CM040s, 045s, and 048s), G&G Combat Machines, or Classic Army Skirmish line. It really depends on your budget though. If you can go higher, I'd suggest doing so.
All I'd suggest to start with are a battery/charger, and some extra mags. If you don't like iron sights, get a red dot like a field sport with a riser. A foregrip, like one from PTS might be nice as well. A sling might be nice as well. I'm a big fan of my LBX Sling. I'd definitly recommend trying your gun before buying anything.
You can pick up an Aimpoint Pro on Amazon for $435. That's >$30.
The gat is obviously a Real Sword Type 97B. The red dot is this cheap one and the bungee sling is this one. The suppressor is a foam filled one I picked up for cheap from a local guy, not sure exactly what the brand is. It does have HK trademarks though
I gotchu: Amazon link.
It's amazing value for the price. Good reviews. Works just fine on my plinkers. Make sure you get a cheap riser if you want any sort of co-witness.
You can get a decent red dot off amazon for $20-30
Like this one
This is the wrong game to start crying "It's not realistic" with. Don't get me started on the ballistics or weapon handling of the game let alone a camera that can not only see shoeprints but also track them and tell you who is wearing what shoes. Or the fact that you can pull 2 variable size steel reinforcements in your back pocket along with infinite wooden barricades. But I suppose that is more realistic than a solar powered sight.
Right now glaz is broken, either you remove his thermal sight and go back or you find a way to make it play better with the rest of the game. How about you make Smoke's smoke block his thermal sight. Or have it run out of battery, or like OP is suggesting have it solar powered.
No experience with this particular optic, but there is a thread on arfcom for a similar model from Field sport, which sells on Amazon for ~$20. I'm thinking that one is going to be my go-to range toy/.22/loaner scope.
FieldSport Micro Red Dot Sight, Precision Red Dot Only No Green https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Y3SZEJC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_uly9ybQSZAVNG
Looks a lot like the the budget red dot that got a great review from 704 Tactical on YouTube. Not sure if it's the same one, but this it's worth a look. $22
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00Y3SZEJC/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1492482570&sr=1-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Red+dot+sight&dpPl=1&dpID=51VUZSrFc4L&ref=plSrch
Holosun, Vortex, and Sig make fantastic budget red dots. Holosun is my personal favorite. Beware of cheaper red dots from NC Star, Sightmark, and TruGlo. They’re all Chinese garbage that will break after a few rounds with a rifle. They are only good for airsoft. You might think you’re saving money with a cheap red dot, but one it breaks you’ll have to spend another $100 for a good dot that actually works. DO NOT BUY THIS RED DOT. https://imgur.com/gallery/Jb7fl2Q it’s very popular in video games but it sucks IRL.
Here are some good budget red dots.
Vortex Optics Crossfire Red Dot Sight - 2 MOA Dot https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079BY7QMC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_isezDbA48RE95
Sig Sauer SOR52001 Romeo5 1x20mm Compact 2 Moa Red Dot Sight, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C95I8N4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_MsezDbJKTTFM4
Holosun HS403B Micro Red Dot Optic (2 MOA) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BJ3ZXD0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_1tezDbXX4DPPJ
This is the OEM model that only comes with the high mount. It does not come with the low mount or the slick box. You can get that one on Amazon for a couple bucks more.
I pulled the trigger. I've been watching prices on ebay and amazon and this look like a sick deal.
https://camelcamelcamel.com/Magpul-Industries-Generation-Backup-Sights/product/B01GDL22O6
If you prefer black Amazon has the Sig Sauer Romeo 5 for $99.99. Pick Amazon.com as the seller (shows as temporarily out of stock but you can order it). If you are eligible for the Amex points offer you can save 20% and get it for $80.
Also: "Includes a M1913 Picatinny low mount riser and a co-witness 1.41in riser mount "
Reposted as the Amazon offer was flagged as an affiliate link. You can find it with a little search engine work, though.
EDIT: Okay, not 15 minutes after I posted it Amazon jumped the price to $125. $100 after the points discount, so not quite as exciting. All I can say is keep an eye on it if you are interested. I've seen it fluctuate a few times before I posted.
This is a boxing and review of this $35 weapons light I got off Amazon. It was highly rated there and I wanted to share an unboxing and initial impressions. Below is a copy/paste of the Imgur comments from top-down. I have no affiliation with the seller; here is the link. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036S5W42/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Before I start, I'll give it 4 out of 5 stars because the on/off switch is too easily tripped and protrudes a fair bit. I understand this simple mechanism is probably to keep costs down which is appreciated. For a nightstand pistol-light, it will serve it's purpose well. I have no doubt as of the moment it wouldn't perform. For a concealed carry light, I'd recommend a hard cover to prevent the on switch from being engaged by mistake. For the price-point, it exceeds expectations. I probably will buy another for my Sig if this holds up well, which I expect it will. Rated at 500 lumens for 40 minutes of on time.
Per/u/jakesgunreviews, "Tell them to buy a TLR-1 when it goes on sale for $70.00."
Below is the transcript from the imgur descriptions.
S&W SD9 cleared and the HL-P10S model weapons light.
Box lid snapped out nicely. Flashlight comes in cutout with chinese CR123A Lithium battery, installation leaflet, Silica gel, and plea for reviews on Amazon. It feels very light. Must be aluminum.
Turned on and off by a simple drifting bar with finger tabs. Moves pretty freely with slight resistance. I can see this being a potential snag if drawing from concealed carry.
Fuck this is bright. I'm directly under my kitchen light on a cloudy day and this is triggering a migraine.
Retention lever gives significantly more resistance than the on switch. Pretty difficult to hold down with index finger.
Maybe an inch further than my barrel. Weight is hardly noticeable. The on switch is hit by using your right index finger to push it to the left; perfect for right handed shooters. I did accidentally bump it on while sitting it on the table which is concerning. It isn't 100% solid to my rail; it has a slight wobble but not enough to give the impression that it would fall off.
Dark room test. You could read a book just from standing behind it. Strobe feature is disorienting AF and activated by turning it off then back on quickly.
Will be needing another holster to concealed carry with it. This Telor Tactical neoprene holster is stretching out hard and the trigger well is partially exposed.
Another note about it with this and other soft hosters, it can be bumped on while carrying very easily IWB. It is bright enough to notice from inside jeans and would make an awkward situation to brandish to turn it back off. It comes off easily enough so if I have to carry it'll be without until I find a kydex holster holster to protect it.
Obviously the Hellbreaker lower is the centerpiece of this build, but there a few other goodies on here too.
The main sight is an Armasight 4x Nightvision Scope.
The backup sight is a cheap but relatively solid Field Sport Red/Green Dot Holds zero really well after repeated firing, best bang for the buck right now in cheap, sturdy little red dots. It's mounted on a 45 degree angle rail section.
Streamlight SuperTac IR spotlight on the right side.
CMG 4.5lb flat trigger, smooth as ice.
KNS Precision locking trigger/hammer pins in FDE
Obviously a SigTac SB15 pistol brace.
AAC three prong flash hider/suppressor quick disconnect
BCM Gunfighter Charging handle
Weighs about 45lbs it seems like, but once both of my stamps get back I feel this will be an excellent stealth-mode hog rifle.
I got one of these and it helped a lot with trigger control - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004NKY23E
note: I did not get the laserlyte targets; I can easily see where the laser hits and if it's a steady shot vs. showing some sort of flinching etc. - however i may get some of the timed targets later for rapid draw/fire drills.
Seems like a pretty good deal considering the optic sells for $420 on amazon Here.
So it's like you're paying
$480$580 for a full M4 style AR-15. Doesn't seem to be marked up very much to me.=( My math is bad as /u/MyFishIsGold pointed out
You can grab those primary arms optics on Amazon. Here's the $90 Micro.
No.
But if you want one that just works, the red only Fieldsport on Amazon is great at $20.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Y3SZEJC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_-gUdBbBPA0SJ9
Next step up but still budget would be a Bushnell TRS-25. Less glass tint, and all around better quality for $50.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00200E0HM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_4hUdBbX0PJ5FY
Youll want this riser with either one.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003TX2BD4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_RiUdBbFKT6JE1
If you eventually want a quality real steel Optic, look for the Vortex Strikefire, Vortex Crossfire red dot, Vortex SPARC AR, or the Sig Romeo 5. All can be had for about 120 if you shop around. Vortex optics have fantastic warranties.
If you want some magnification, i eecommend the monstrum 3x prism sight. Let it be known though, that the sight adjustments work in reverse.
https://monstrumtactical.com/products/3x-ultra-compact-prism-scope-black?variant=6824042168366
Dunno what a good price is but it's also $359 on Amazon with free 1 day delivery.
https://www.amazon.com/EOTECH-512-A65-Tactical-HOLOgraphic-Batteries/dp/B000KKFVRC/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=EOTECH+512&qid=1558230719&s=gateway&sr=8-3&x=0&y=0
If you can swing an extra $40, Vortex has the best red dots for the price point. Also a full no bullshit lifetime warranty.
https://gun.deals/product/vortex-strikefire-ii-red-dot-redgreen-dot-wlower-13-co-witness-cantil-14930-wcode-spring15-o?mobile=true
They're usually $179, don't know how long that deal lasts.
If you really can't go over $100, SightMark makes semi decent stuff. Don't go too hard on it though.
Little $40 cheapo: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000W4BQ7K/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1496518870&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=sightmark+red+dot&dpPl=1&dpID=51wta5L7snL&ref=plSrch
Slightly more robust EOtech style, I had one of these. Lasted a couple years of range time then the power button stopped working. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004TDIDW6/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1496518920&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=sightmark+red+dot&dpPl=1&dpID=41uaubKMNvL&ref=plSrch
Definitely get the vortex if you can though
Hey, we can always try to help you. Ar15.com might have a better forum but that's a semi-closed off website compared to reddit.
Just from the looks of it the Sig Micro Red dot you posted looks a lot like an Aimpoint T2. The Aimpoint is top of the line (think, best you can really purchase) as far as quality is concerned. I'll be the first to admit I don't hear much good or bad about Sig Optics so I won't act like I know how well they hold up.
An entry level red dot would be something like the Holosun for 170$ compared to the 340$ you might pay for the Sig Dot you mentoined earlier.
In my opinion, there's three tiers of optics you can buy. You can buy horrible Chi-Com shit from China that will cost you 35$ total. You can buy entry level optics like the Holosun, Vortex, or Sig (low price to high), or you can go all in and get a top shelf optic like an Aimpoint, Trijicon, or [debatably] an EoTech.
If you're worried about "overpaying" for low quality, but you're willing to spend 350-400, buying an Aimpoint PRO would be right in your realm. You'll receive extremely high quality glass for a decent price. They retain their value over the years, and if your husband knows anything about firearms, he'll be super happy with throwing it on a rifle. (edit: your post history says your husband is familiar with Special Operations Units, so I know he'll have heard of Aimpoint).
Buying him a Holosun or the Sig red dot would be a good alternative, but if you can justify it in your budget, get him something you know he'll be happy with. An Aimpoint is hard to beat. He can save up another 200$, re-sell the PRO and upgrade himself to a Aimpoint Micro if he's looking for that style of optic down the road.
I use a ssar-22 AR spec conversion. I am overall happy with it, though I think it adds a bit of weight.
I have been using this super cheap reflex sight for awhile now. I sighted it in once and have fired several hundred rounds with it staying true. If that cheapee can stay true, I guessing anything can stand a chance against a .22
Holosun
HS403A - $129
Sorry to break it to you, but there is a lot more competition in the sup $200 micro red dot market.
They are all more or less excellent. I prefer the Vortex because it has an unbeatable warranty.
$66 on Amazon
Magpul Industries Usa Mbus Generation Ii Backup Sights Front & Rear Set https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GDL22O6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_jDvRBb0G88K3W
This is higher than retail homie. You're probably in the $90-$100 range to get any bites for used.
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Crossfire-Red-Sight/dp/B079BY7QMC
This one for $78 on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TDIDW6/ is a really decent red dot. Very wide field of view. I use it on my TM MP7.
I'm not entirely all that knowledgeable but AFAIK, if you're going to go for a replica sight, T1 replica's seem to be less shitty.
I've seen many positive reviews on the Field sport T1 style sight.
this is a good post with very nice photos, but I have to point out that I can buy an EOTech 512 on amazon.com right now for $380.34 shipped.
If you really want to be running a copy, then you'll want to get a 14.5" barrel.
Here's the build I would run to copy the above, feel free to make edits to your liking:
A2 Flash Hider - $9see responseTotal: $1,354
Costs not included: Pin & Weld for flash hider, shipping, any applicable tax, transfer fee for lower.
Average cost found for FN15: $800-1,300
Not included with FN15: Aimpoint, sling, rail covers, Matech (proper) rear sight, foregrip, proper 14.5" barrel (all found in short search were 16in), shipping, transfer fee, any applicable tax
Price configured closer to FN15: $792 (price excluding aimpoint, sling, rail covers, foregrip).
The handguard is a Knights RAS picatinny rail. I don't believe they sell them anymore. There are substitutes. Rails
The laser device is a PEQ15. The real one looks to be about $1400. Here is the Airsoft version. PEQ 15
There doesn't look to be a rear sight, but the actual M4 rear sight is a MaTech
Stock is a standard M4 stock. The suppressor piece looks to be fitted over the barrel. This should work with a 16in barrel.
Good luck with the build.
did you even google my friend
https://www.amazon.com/Hilight-Pistol-Strobe-Flashlight-Release/dp/B0036S5W42/
https://www.reddit.com/r/airsoft/comments/2xpwti/any_good_quality_tlr1_clones/
May be something like this.
>Vortex Spitfire 3X Prism Scope
You can get one off amazon for 350
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Spitfire-Prism-Scope/dp/B00HYRGNLM
Skip the mount combo and just get the UTG high rise mount, it's a bit better anyway and total price is about the same, sometimes cheaper if you go with the UTG.
Consider upgrading to the primary arms advanced red dot or the Romeo5. Going from ~500-1000 hours of battery life to about 20-30x that is nice, basically means you can leave it on.
PSA AR15 COMPLETE CLASSIC STEALTH LOWER - $120
BCA AR-15 Complete Upper Assembly, 16", Mid-Length Gas System, 1:7 Twist w/ 15" MLOK Rail - $185
D&H 5.56 30RD ALUMINUM MAGAZINE - $9
EOTECH 512 Holographic Weapon Sight - $380
Primary Arms 3X Red Dot Magnifier Gen III + Primary Arms Flip To Side Magnifier Mount - $110
Total Cost (sans shipping) = $804
A budget of $50 won't give you much to work with unless you're talking bargain basement.
Like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001JJCHWK/
I am running a Primary Arms red dot and a UTG 3x flip up magnifier. Very happy with both.
https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-microdot-with-removable-base-gen-2
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S2FWRGK/
I've been shooting pistols for a few years now and am just now getting the rifle bug. Over Christmas it just hit me... I don't have a 10/22! I wasn't having any of that; and wanting to have a little fun with it, I came up with this.
Here's what it is:
Ruger 10/22 "All Weather" Carbine
Archangel 556 Rifle Stock
UTG Tactical OP Bipod
AccuShot Scope Rings
BARSKA 3-9x32 Plinker-22 Riflescope
I got to sight it in this morning! Nice and accurate as you should expect from a 10/22. Ran subsonic ammo through it and it was nice a quite. I really like the Barska scope too... it did great on its lowest 3X setting. When I have more time I'll see how it does at long range.
Edit* Also Ruger BX-25 mag
Going away from the norm...at least on Reddit...may I suggest the Matech rear sight. It allows for elevation adjustments which most other rear sights do not. You can find them cheaper on eBay (be wary of knockoffs) or sites like armslist.
Competing for buisness
Stop being a pussy and get an optic made for CQB. Or, do you even operate?
All you need is a cheap red dot sight (there's no recoil on a camera so your cheap sight isn't going to lose its zero), a short section of picatinny rail, and a hotshoe to 1/4" tripod adapter. You'll have to drill and tap the rail section to 1/4"x20 and once it's all put together and aligned superglue everything together so it doesn't move. I had the pic rail left over from another project so I saved ten bucks there. You obviously don't need 10" of picatinny rail so just cut off as much as you want. For extra cool points use an Eotech
The lens is a Rokinon 500mm mirror lens.
I'm a striker guy but for dry fire, I can totally see the benefit of having a double action trigger. I like to use one of those laserlight trainer cartridges when I practice my dry-fire (almost every night). And it would be really nice if I could just pull the trigger again to get another shot to go off, rather than having to re-rack the slide to get the next "shot" off.
But other than that and the extremely low likely event of a soft-primer strike, then I prefer the consistency of strikers.
Use a laser sight when practicing trigger control with dry fire drills, so you get feedback on exactly what the muzzle is doing as you pull.
Use a laser trainer when you practice draw and fire drills, or point shooting. Again, this gives feedback that otherwise wouldn't be there.
Using a laser sight or laser trainer with dry firing also lets you practice firing while moving or from unusual positions in a safe manner and with feedback on what you're doing.
Here is the one I use. Don't let the price scare you... you will easily save it in practice ammo. You can sometimes find them cheaper on Ebay. https://www.amazon.com/Laserlyte-Laser-Trainer-9-mm-Cartridge/dp/B004NKY23E/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1480200806&sr=1-1&keywords=LaserLyte
As others have said, definitely rent guns at the range. Black Wing has a very large selection both in the rental cabinet and on the sales floor. Vance is great too. I don't shop at LEPD because they're expensive and selection isn't that great, but I use their range sometimes.
For practice, start with a .22 target pistol, like the Browning Buckmark or Ruger Mark III. They're cheap to buy, cheap to shoot, very accurate and are excellent for warming up before moving on to the bigger calibers. Training on .22 will also help you focus on sight alignment while minimizing the chances of developing a flinch.
The other reason to buy a target pistol is that many ranges won't let you rent a gun if you're alone and don't have your own gun. That's to prevent people from renting guns and committing suicide on the range. If you want to try out guns for home defense and you can't bring a friend to the range, having a target pistol will get you into the shooting booth.
EDIT: Also get a laser trainer. For the price of a range trip or two, you can practice inside your home as much as you want. I find it really helps me focus on sight alignment and trigger control. Dry fire practice is one of the most important things you can do to improve your accuracy, and having a laser has made me a much better shot in a very short time.
[Laser Training Cartridge] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004NKY23E/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1) has been worth every penny. It seems to use batteries pretty slowly too. Makes dry-fire practice a lot more fun/realistic.
I got the Sightmark Ultra Shot Sight QD Digital Switch for ~$55 on sale at Amazon around Christmas as an experiment: How "bad" were these sights that people keep telling me not to buy?
I've put about 500 rounds of 5.56 through my Sig516 with it mounted, and had some serious wobbling issues with it yesterday.
HTML5 video of wobbliness (dat gfycat name tho)
Kneeling at 50 yards, I was only able to get 3 of 20 rounds on a 12" target. I attribute those 3 to blind luck. Not good.
Today I took a look at the Sightmark to see if I could keep it limping along. It turns out that there's a way to tighten the mount up to account for this. Huzzah!
You can see an adjustment nut on the bolt they use to index on your rail in this potato pic. This needs to be tightened. I found that this nut is extremely loose, and was able to adjust it with a small punch, as I don't have a small enough wrench. I had some loctite lying around that I added to the nut, in the hopes that this won't happen again.
Is a sight that stops working after 500 rounds a good sight? Probably not. Can you limp by on one for a while? It looks like it.
I'll update after the next 500 rounds.
Put this sightmark on my rem870 a few years back. Hundreds of slugs and 00 buck Holds zero and is still going strong. Good value for the price
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B004TDIDW6/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1522617242&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=sightmark+ultra+shot+sight&dpPl=1&dpID=41hIk7GLyUL&ref=plSrch
I split the difference and bought complete upper and lower for my first "build." Spike's Tactical complete lower and BCM KMR Alpha 15 complete upper. Added the BCM bolt carrier group, a sexy, red Strike Industries charging handle, and MBUS sights and viola! My first AR. I added an Aimpoint PRO and a Strike Industries sexy red foregrip a few days later. Then a J-comp... Oh, and a few PMAGs... They say an artist never really finishes a work, only abandons it...
But seriously, buy a completed upper and lower and you'll have a very easy time your first time. The upper and lower attach with literally 2 pins. Insanely easy. Once you've put one together that way and held it in your hand and got a feel for it, then you'll start thinking about how you want to change the trigger or what kind of stock you'd like better and then those tasks won't seem as intimidating.
Please note: Those links above are the result of quick Google searches to show the products I'm referring to. They are NOT good prices at least compared to what I spent. I just wanted to make it easier to see what I was referring to but didn't want to go bargain hunting all over again.
I don't think I'll ever lose money, or too much money on this deal. It's a $750+ optic new. You get it for $300+ less here. The aimpoint pro is probably well worth the price at $400+, but why wouldn't I go with one of these over that?
http://www.amazon.com/Aimpoint-PRO-Patrol-Rifle-Optic/dp/B007GDR0I4
Totally found it. Yep cheap airsoft garbage, probably Google'd "red dot" and bought the cheapest thing possible, ironically made in China.
I kind of want to buy one and see how long it lasts.
> It wouldn't fit any blaster rail because the fitting arms are too wide set.
Yes - that's because it's picatinny rail. What you have there is a cheap plastic imitation of this style of reflex sight, it's meant to be a cosmetic piece for airsoft or gel-ball blasters (which are modeled after real steel firearms and thus use picatinny rail).
Most dart blasters do not come with picatinny rail, ergo, "sights" like that won't fit.
this one
I think u/ChadPoland is right. It looks like the Field Sports other version that has both Green and Red. Thats why some of the photos the numbers are green and other photo they are red.
https://www.amazon.com/Field-Sport-Green-Micro-Sight/dp/B00D4AYBR6/ref=pd_sim_200_15?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00D4AYBR6&pd_rd_r=NZZMZ1Z1W8FDBSXCVV9A&pd_rd_w=Fcg3L&pd_rd_wg=Yflnh&psc=1&refRID=NZZMZ1Z1W8FDBSXCVV9A
There are lots of factories in China that you can order from and they will put your company name on it.
If I remember correctly Primary arms works with one to make theirs at a higher standard / better features (emitter placement for example).
I seriously doubt this is actually a Primary Arms.
There is a couple torture tested of this red dot on YouTube and they beat the shit out of it and it kept running.
Edit: wrong link, fixing now.
Torture test
Wore that mask for 2 games before relegating it to loaner status. OneTigris-style masks are more way more compatible with goggles and allow a cheekweld. Those shooting glasses look like they would be better than goggles, but if they're anything like the pair I used they'll fog like crazy. Your eye-pro not being the best place to save money, I reccommend something ANSI Z87-rated with good ventilation slots around the edges. ESS goggles are a traditional standby for this. I'd reccomend this Aimpoint T1 clone instead of the one you show, as it's more durable, lower profile, can co-witness with M4 iron sights with the right mount, and is less likely to catch BBs. What are you going to carry your magazines in?
OK so it came in on Thursday but I just had a chance to try it out today.
I'd say it's definitely worth the money, but it isn't one of those things where you're getting a $250+ gun for $120.
The FPS is obviously really high on this thing. With just a little hop up added it shoots Elite Force bio .25s a really long way with no drop. However, accuracy is not fantastic. I set up a target at 35' and I could get 4" groupings consistently, but not 2" groupings. For comparison I can get 2" groups with my KWA SR7 and my Classic Army EC1 nearly every time at that range. Of course, this is straight out of the box, so it may improve over time. As it is it's not terrible, just not insanely great.
For what it's worth, this is the loudest Airsoft gun I have ever used. You can't hear any motor whine or spring noise, just a loud BAM for every shot.
Build quality is excellent. It's really hefty, nothing rattles, and it just feels incredibly solid. The rail on top is metal, and it holds optics with no wobble. I got a little $25 Amazon red-dot for it and it works fine.
Magazine capacity is small, the midcap it comes with and the extra one I got on Evike both hold 68 rounds (on paper, I think in reality you get ~50 rounds before it becomes too difficult for a speedloader to insert BBs).
I think the downfall with this thing is that it's not a super accurate gun for field play, but its FPS is much too high for CQB. I think with a spring replacement to take it down to 350fps it would be a fantastic CQB gun.
Pic
Primary Arms makes a nice little 3x acog type scope on the 2 to 3 hundred range
https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-gen-ii-3x-compact-prism-scope-acss-cqb-m2-5-56-nato-reticle-black
So does vortex for around 350
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Spitfire-Prism-Scope/dp/B00HYRGNLM/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?adgrpid=51540464570&gclid=Cj0KCQjwrJ7nBRD5ARIsAATMxsu3oChd_0APNmPqdQf4EC4r2z4-UDRDidQMhDImqQ5FSSZjbi5d6zMaAjtLEALw_wcB&hvadid=274687406793&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9027248&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=14011438296207626877&hvtargid=kwd-302923763716&hydadcr=9877_9890446&keywords=vortex%2Bprism%2B3x&qid=1558703775&s=gateway&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&th=1
I ordered the Primary Arms Advanced Micro Dot 50K. Haven't received yet but it seems very similar to the Holosun. So similar that I wouldn't be surprised if they use some of the same parts.
https://www.amazon.com/HOLOSUN-HS403A-Micro-Sight-Riser/dp/B00KOOEZ6W
http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-advanced-micro-dot-with-push-buttons-and-up-to-50khour-battery-life/p/md-ads/
Vortex SPARC AR...it goes on sale at PSA on the reg for $130
https://palmettostatearmory.com/vortex-sparc-ar-1x-red-dot-scope-spc-ar1.html
Primary Arms Advanced Micro Dot $150
http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-micro-dot-with-removable-base-md-rb-ad
Holosun HS403A $170
https://www.amazon.com/HOLOSUN-HS403A-Micro-Red-Sight/dp/B00KOOEZ6W
HOLOSUN HS403A Micro Red Dot Sight (2 MOA) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KOOEZ6W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_PsAvzbR1WDXVV
$126 shipped right now
Non mobile link = http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KOOEZ6W
Primary Arms Micro Red Dot Sight w/ Removable Base - 2 MOA Dot MD-RBGII https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NC1G0KI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_x9cCybY9XGCPC
You could get a primary arms micro r.d.s they have recieved good reviews. It will cost a bit more if you need a high rise mount though for co-witness. https://www.amazon.com/Primary-Arms-Micro-Sight-Removable/dp/B00NC1G0KI/ref=sr_1_1/163-9672238-1238612?ie=UTF8&qid=1480287745&sr=8-1&keywords=primary+arms+micro+dot
What about this one? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NC1G0KI/
How about this ProTac? www.amazon.com/dp/B01AXR8IKS/
FSB?
If you're planning on spending more than $150 just save your money and save up for a premium optic like an Aimpoint, EOTech, Leupold, or Trijicon. If you're looking in the 100-150 range, Holosun makes a great solar/battery powered red dot that holds zero well and has a 30-50k hour battery life(when it's actually in battery mode). If you're looking for a more traditional optic, Bushnell and Nikon have good 1-4x optics. If you're looking for more magnification a Leupold
is within your reach. Vortex has strong offerings in both red dots and traditional optics if you're willing to spend a just bit more. If you're looking in the 50-150 range I'd look into a TRS-25 or Primary Arms for a red dot. For a traditional scope i'd stick with a fixed power optic like this Bushnell, you're going to be hard pressed to find a decent magnified optic with good glass in this price range, fixed power scopes are simpler in construction and offer at least better durability but i'd consider sticking to a non magnified optic under the $100 range. If you're trying to spend even less than $50 there is apparently a very well made $20 Fieldsport which is worth a search on youtube. I wouldn't consider anything magnified under $50 but this is a good range for a cool carry handle with elevation adjustment and retro look. Shooting irons can be more fun than using optics sometimes.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00U2KMVCI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498586118&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=holosun+403c
Ask & you shall receive! I love mine!!!
For the look, i say go for it. Remember to pick up a small red dot and its good to go. It feels kind of cheap, but looks pretty good.
https://www.amazon.com/FieldSport-Micro-Sight-Precision-Green/dp/B00Y3SZEJC
I reccomend this red dot, its the best bang for the buck for 22 clones that you dont plan on beating to death.
Normally i reccomend vortex at a minimum, but this is really all you need for the gsg522
This on a UTG riser. It was gifted to me for Christmas and I figured it fit the bill with the rest of the rifle.
Yup.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Y3SZEJC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
+1
704 Tactical $20 Red Dot review
FieldSport Red Dot for sale
I have that site as well. It's on my 10/22 and is wonderful
On all three of mine I've got red dots zero'd at 50 yrds. I have to hold over some at 100 but I'm gonna switch to my AR-15 if I'm gonna be shooting that far or longer. I've got TRS-25's on 2 of them, and a FieldSport Micro Dot on the other that's almost identical, just a lot cheaper. The red dot works good for me in USPSA PCC division without being too bulky. I don't see the need for a $300+ optic on a range toy
I have two of those sights, mine are from Dagger Defense. The first one I bought about a year and a half ago, it's worked well so I just got another.
Link to the Amazon.com DD sight
The best/cheapest red dot for an AR is probably the Bushnell trs-25, I got mine for $52 on sale. That said the Fieldsport is nearly identical and only $20 on Amazon (check out the enthusiastic YouTube reviews). On a high riser ($10) either one will absolute co-witness with iron sights, which you don't have but it also means the scopes high enough for a decent cheek weld.
I prefer a larger viewport though so my favorite is this 32mm one
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ZM3TMO0/ref=gp_aw_ybh_a_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=C1PPPYD0VRBPGGQGHCTZ
Holosun
SIG
Vortex
And the SOR52001 is on Amazon right now for $112.99 + tax and is shipped free same day/next day if you are a prime member. I just picked it up for my 10/22 and couldn’t be happier.
Sig Sauer SOR52001 Romeo5 1x20mm Compact 2 Moa Red Dot Sight, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C95I8N4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_G74FDbTVFMPBN
Got the sights on it last weekend and cleaned her all up to be ready for this weekend.
Holosun HS510C 2 MOA Dot Or A 65 MOA Ring Open Reflex Circle Dot Solar Power Holographic Red Dot Sight https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MT5RJLD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Esx5CbQJ6K3R1
Magpul Industries USA Mbus Generation Ii Backup Sights Front & Rear Set https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GDL22O6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_7tx5CbEBJVZ3G
$62 is a Prime option
Magpul Industries MBUS Generation II Sight Set Front & Rear Color BLACK https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GDL22O6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_7WQBzb6X4DS5W
Free shipping is always good. Edited.
MBUS front and rear set here, but buyer beware of independent sellers and genuine parts.
MBUS Pro front and rear set here. This is sold and shipped by Amazon at time of OP.
This is for the compact version.
Alternatively, OpticsPlanet
and Amazon offer it for $149.99 with free 2-Day Shipping.
Edit: I just realized that the seller that I linked on Amazon is OpticsPlanet!
Edit2: With Free Prime 1-Day shipping, I guess this could be the better deal for me if I wanna pay another ~$5 over the lowest shipping option at PA. Man, did I underestimate shipping and taxes.
Seriously, it's a buyers market right now... Everything gun related is getting discounted. I'm no psychic, but I'd say it's likely to continue at least until we get up closer to the 2018 elections.
Acog's are great, but if you want to save a few bucks, I have a couple of these Sig Sauer Romeo5 sights and I really like them. Very solid... Motion activated, 40k hr battery, weather proof, $150'ish...
https://www.amazon.com/Sig-Sauer-SOR52001-Romeo5-Compact/dp/B01C95I8N4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493402755&sr=8-1&keywords=sig+romeo+5
Here's what I ended up going with for ~$958 leaving you plenty for a nicer optic:
Stribog SP9A1 $712 shipped
FS1913 Side Folding Brace $188 shipped
SHF Rail/Brace Adapter $58 shipped
Optional trigger shims for AR trigger install also available from Midway, I plan on trying a Geissele.
You can get a Vortex Micro Dot on amazon for like $130, good enough to run and you'll have money left over for a trigger
Vortex Crossfire with its included riser. I specifically chose this riser because it allows you to perfectly see the scorpion's iron sights through its frame.
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Crossfire-Red-Sight/dp/B079BY7QMC/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?adgrpid=55820288797&gclid=Cj0KCQjwrJ7nBRD5ARIsAATMxsux4hrJ9QDABMDT6BTIXU89RvQ68Y1clJ0tASybSTGOOZ7VSJ-OVzcaAppCEALw_wcB&hvadid=274745516593&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9007772&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=13455570092451339803&hvtargid=kwd-299606786369&hydadcr=9873_9624902&keywords=vortex+crossfire+ii&qid=1558726559&s=gateway&sr=8-6
I don’t mean to make light of the costs, truly. I know $819 is a ton of money.
PSA has this:
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-mid-length-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-lightweight-m-lok-classic-rifle.html
Plus this:
Magpul Industries USA Mbus Generation Ii Backup Sights Front & Rear Set https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GDL22O6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_M53OCbYHJQX10
You’re complete rifle for $550 plus shipping and a transfer fee.
Or use a red dot for $80 more:
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-mid-length-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-lightweight-m-lok-classic-rifle.html
Also, that Ruger or things like it will go on sale at a local gun store.
Sig Sauer SOR52001 Romeo5 1x20mm Compact 2 Moa Red Dot Sight, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C95I8N4/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_c_api_i_9Pb1CbHGSW0WG
$126.00
> Currently have some on my ar, they're good, but are the $100 a pair good?
Magpul offers models in the 60-70 range, which seem like pretty middle of the road. Price-wise. At least, thats what I observed shopping for flip sights.
I'm kinda deadlocked on the Troy and YHM . . . leaning towards the YHM but I don't either is a bad choice.
This isn't Holosun but quite a lot of people like the Sig red dots: https://smile.amazon.com/Sig-Sauer-SOR52001-Romeo5-Compact/dp/B01C95I8N4/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=holosun&qid=1556673193&s=gateway&sr=8-10
Sig Sauer Romeo 5
I’m just trying to help you out here. Hate to see you realize that you’ve set this thing up like trash before it’s too late.
All you gotta do is swap a light and sight and take a couple things off and you’re fine. If anyone you are the one who’s mad.
Here’s a better sight:
https://www.amazon.com/Sig-Sauer-SOR52001-Romeo5-Compact/dp/B01C95I8N4
And here’s a better light
https://www.brownells.com/shooting-accessories/flashlights-accessories/weapon-lights/protac-rail-mount-prod84776.aspx
It’s okay to setup a rifle wrong, as long as you recognize that something is a bad idea and fix it.
Holosun micro red dots are very lightweight and have battery lives approaching aim points. Almost all are sub-$200 and some models have solar panels that will work in daylight even without a battery. My brother has been using one on an AR for two or three years with no issues.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00U2KMVCI/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1494254922&sr=8-9&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=HOLOSUN&dpPl=1&dpID=41Vd0EzK5ZL&ref=plSrch
I've also heard that the new sig microdots are also a great value at $160: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01C95I8N4/ref=mp_s_a_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1494254922&sr=8-10&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=HOLOSUN&dpPl=1&dpID=318JNJ36k8L&ref=plSrch
Surely for that discount on the AUG you could justify a couple hundred more
https://www.amazon.com/EOTECH-512-A65-Tactical-HOLOgraphic-Batteries/dp/B000KKFVRC
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Red-Sight-Magnifiers/dp/B07X485D8V
Batteries don't run out on those sights bud. Well they do but you wouldn't be replacing them every battle. Check this out; scroll down to the stats to see the battery life
http://www.amazon.com/EOTech-512-A65-Tactical-HOLOgraphic-Batteries/dp/B000KKFVRC?tag=01u-20
or better yet check these
http://www.aimpoint.com/segmentval/military/
Basically I think a more realistic hardcore would be fun, but some of these options would turn it into a simulation style game which doesn't fit the flow of battlefield, while others like battery life or hearing protection breaking aren't even possibilities in real life battles.
Remember that cheap scopes are gamble as there is little to now QA.
I got this one which is pretty good on top of my 10/22
https://www.amazon.ca/Barska-AC10380-Plinker-22-3-9x32-Riflescope/dp/B001JJCHWK/ref=sr_1_9?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1458742305&sr=1-9&keywords=barska
Not sure how you feel about optics/what company you typically use. I'm a pretty big Vortex and Leupold guy on my big game rifles. However, I felt weird spending too much on a scope for a .22.
I ended up going with this one. Had it 4 seasons now and have brought it into some really rugged country hunting Dusky Grouse. I've dropped it, gotten it wet, basically just abused it as much as possible and it's held up. Awesome value for $50.
I picked up a Barska for about $50 to put on an old marlin .22 and it has really impressed me for the money.
I just bought this scope for my new 10/22. Nothing too fancy but the price was right and my friend bought the same one and loved it. For $180 gun I didn't see myself spending more than that on optics but you can.... easy.
Here is a link to it on amazon right now new
http://www.amazon.com/MaTech-Mil-Spec-Back-up-Iron-Sight/dp/B002E6SXN4
https://www.amazon.com/MaTech-Mil-Spec-Back-up-Iron-Sight/dp/B002E6SXN4
MaTechs
They're really good. I can't stand BUIS that don't have elevation adjustment.
Where are you looking?? My first set was around $80, but even the amazon ones aren’t bad.
Parts list:
Blemished PSA Lower
PSA Midlength Premium MOE Rifle Kit
This is how the rifle came, basically don't feel like I did a whole lot installation wise besides putting the LPK in the lower receiver and then assembled then attached the rifle kit. However, I did swap out some parts namely the MOE buttstock, and the handguards. In favor of:
Spikes MidLength Black Tapered Handguards
Spikes M4 Buttstock
The Magpul handguards that came with it were solid, but the buttstock wasn't. I honestly suspect they gave me a commercial buttstock on a Milspec tube because there was so much wobble. I put this Spikes M4 on the rifle and there's been no problem, a little wobble but definitely not like it was before.
and then of course the sights which are:
MaTech
Matech sights are great for quality especially if you are trying to keep it largely milspec.
I don't mind you using my rifle as a template at all, I certainly don't claim to have come up with the concept of it, it's a very popular setup for a reason.
Here is the stripped down image with some labels
My Upper parts list:
BCM Standard 16" Mid Length Upper Receiver Group
BCM Full-auto profile Bolt Carrier Group
BCM Gunfighter Charging handle Mod 4
Magpul MOE Mid-Length hand guard
Magpul MOE MVG grip
Magpul Illumination Kit
ProTec Elite HP190 Firearm light
Matech rear back up iron sight
Bushnell TRS-25 Red dot sight with a medium height riser
My Lower parts list:
Anderson Manufacturing stripped lower
DPMS Lower parts kit
Magpul Polymer trigger guard
BCM Stock mounting kit with the H buffer
IKICKHIPPES S.L.A.P. for using a single point sling
Magpul MOE+ grip
Magpul MOE Mil-spec stock
Magpul B.A.D. Lever
I'll probably catch some hate, but I got the HiLight P10S on Amazon. 1,000 rounds+ with it on and zero issues so far.
The control sticks out pretty far so I would not recommend it if you ever intend to carry the gun.
Loadout
Gun: ARES AMOEBA CCR M4
Sight: Dagger Defense DDHB Red Dot Reflex sight
Flashlight/Strobe: Aimkon HiLight P10S 500 Lumen Pistol LED Strobe Flashlight
Laser Sight: TACTICON Laser Sight
Yup way to expensive...
Might as well put cheap red dot sight ($22 and it does fit)
http://www.amazon.com/sighting-system-Illumination-reticle-choose/dp/B00457SRBI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1408747412&sr=8-1&keywords=red+dot+sight
Already got the lexan yesterday, and went ahead and cut out a piece the shape of my RDS lens. It fits very snugly.
Since you know what you're talking about, I have a few questions on the lexan covering. I had to shave the lexan down by hand with a metal file, so there are spots that are kind of lumpy and don't touch the sides of the frame like they should, but it still fits pretty tight in there. Should I be worried about it falling out? Also, should I superglue the sides of it to the frame?
For the next question, you'll have to see my RDS to understand. Here's the link.
As you can see, the right below the lens is a little metal base. Should I cut out a shape of the entire top part of the sight alongside a square base below it, and then glue the lower lexan base to the metal RDS base? The lexan wouldn't be touching the lens, so would this keep it even more protected? Also, if the lexan gets cracked, it seems this way would be much easier to remove and replace the lexan.
https://www.amazon.com/Field-Sport-Green-Reflex-Reticles/dp/B00457SRBI/ref=pd_sim_200_8?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00457SRBI&pd_rd_r=71DBR7CK7B0EX2TX809G&pd_rd_w=8Pu18&pd_rd_wg=bppGT&psc=1&refRID=71DBR7CK7B0EX2TX809G
I have a holographic sight on my nemesis, feels good. You do need a nerf-to-picatinny adapter though.
Reflex/holo sight
Field Sport Red and Green Reflex Sight with 4 Reticles https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00457SRBI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_RBwPzb2S2A67A
Ok...so with the exception that I posted, they're garbage. Not going to nitpick this into the ground, not interested in being 'right' on the internet. Examples of said garbage:
http://www.amazon.com/UTG-Green-Sight-Adaptor-Flip-Open/dp/B004HICPHW
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005UGIPUQ/ref=pd_aw_sim_200_3?ie=UTF8&dpID=41lwQpLA92L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL100_SR100%2C86_&refRID=033305SB2323RTRH310Y
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00457SRBI/ref=pd_aw_sim_200_2?ie=UTF8&dpID=51eDKYv3bZL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL100_SR100%2C100_&refRID=1VE1AJ38TMWRDXPP6HV4
Etc etc etc. this is the crap i'm referring to.
This is a pretty good sight. Lots of different pictures and the reticle brightness is nicely variable.
However, holy hell don't buy it from Evike. This same optic is rebranded a hundred times over- if it looks identical, it probably is. There's probably like one factory in China making these things, and different companies stamp their name on it. Here it is on Amazon for $22
Edit: I took another look at the sight that /u/Adventurepoop linked to, and I was wrong- that one does appear to be different. It offers a different array of sight pictures, and has fewer options for sight brightness. Otherwise I reckon it's the same thing. Up to you if the extra money is worth it for the different reticles. I wouldn't pay more than $23 though- mine got shot out the first time I played with it. I'd hate to have lost twice the money.
The one on my daughters (red/left) is what I'd call an entry-level sight. It is a FieldSport red/green reflex. The one on her buddy's (blue/right) is a C-MORE Systems Railway (not sure which one, exactly). It is definitely not entry-level :-)
the guards that screw/clamp onto your rail will either cost 1.5/2x as much as crappy ncstar style red dot and basically never have to be replaced, barring non-bb physical abuse (such as slamming into a wall).
Lasers are usually frowned upon because due to safety reasons (and insurance reasons) you can't use anything above 2m (<5mW) which don't show up too well. A shit-ton of low quality green lasers don't have proper IR filters, so while the green component is 'safe' the IR part that isnt being filtered is incredibly dangerous AND invisible.
I'd recommend starting to carry around your house. You can start carrying unloaded if you'd prefer so you can get used to it. Then when you feel comfortable you can carry loaded. Getting the permit is easy, I just took some online course, but what's important is your safety and comfort level. From a safety standpoint, becoming comfortable with your firearm is essential.
As far as at home practice, I really enjoyed having this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004NKY23E/ You can get it in other calibers too. It's not perfect, but it helped me practice my aim, especially while drawing. Its not necessary and I know it's not really cheap, but I really enjoyed having it when I first got into firearms and carrying. It helped me a lot with my accuracy. You can even buy targets that will beep or fall down when the laser hits them, but I didn't feel like it was necessary. I just focused on an outlet or something else small across the room and feel like it was good enough.
If you want real live firing training, I can't really help you there because I've never done it. What I've seen and what seems to make the most sense is ask your ranges near you if they offer private lessons focused on CCW or shooting from a holstered position.
Best of luck and am always happy to hear of another CCW person here. Nothing makes me happier than seeing a story of a citizen carrying helped stop a deadly situation that could have been a lot more deadly!
100 rounds isn't very much. Have you looked into reloading?
I suck with my pistols and I get that shooting is not budget friendly, but 100 rounds/mo per gun is not very much at all. That would be a pretty light range day for me, and I try to go at least 3x a month. I'm assuming you don't have many pistols.
Might want to check this out. This was recommended to me and I'm going to pick it up soon. There's an option to pick up a target with it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004NKY23E/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1452190593&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=SX200_QL40&amp;keywords=laserlyte+laser+trainer&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=41hdZ-MN7lL&amp;ref=plSrch
It's different than a real EOTech.
This is the one I've got http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004TDIDW6
These are for real steel guns, and feel really solid, I have no doubt they'll work on GBBRs, but I have an aeg, so I can't base that on personal experience.
I have a Sightmark Ultra Shot QD and it's fantastic. Big glass, multiple reticle, really solid, bright(works in direct sunlight), qd works. I'm very happy with it.
They also make a non-digital non-qd version that's even cheaper, but I really like the QD.
Good luck
Ok I get that some people like to spend $ on top quality stuff an Aimpoint Pro is pricy... considering the Sport M&P goes for $750-$800 range the damn sight is half the price!! If you are honestly gonna use the rifle to just go to the range and practice or something other than non warfare activities consider a sight more cost efficient... Don't sleep on something like a Sightmark I have it on my M&P 15 OR and its legit! Yes I'll eventually get an EOtech when I have the funds but something expensive as fuck just to start off with if silly IMO... if you want a picture on how my Sightmak looks on my rifle PM me.
I'm planning on picking up a Sightmark Ultra Shot w/digital switch for mine, I've heard a lot of good things about it and you don't need a separate mount.
Okay, so in my opinion your best bet is to either do what /u/JustARandomCatholic suggests, or to get an FN-15 tactical with the P-Lok rail and get an Aimpoint PRO and either an Inforce WML or a used Surefire 951 off ebay and a Malkoff M61 drop-in LED bulb.
FN-15 Tac II FDE w/P-Lok Rail
Aimpoint PRO
Inforce WML
Little rail section for WML
Thanks for the reply. I will be using it with NVG for hog hunting, so that is a must. I was looking at the Aimpoint Pro: http://www.amazon.com/Aimpoint-PRO-Patrol-Rifle-Optic/dp/B007GDR0I4/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1395002070&amp;sr=8-1-spell&amp;keywords=aimpoint
Have you ever used one, if so, what are your thoughts on it?
I do like the idea of a x4 scope, but would want a smaller package than 14in long (assuming I read the dimension correctly).
I built a couple of AR-15s for my father and little brother. Little bro got me a Chinese red dot for Christmas, and got one for himself. Then my Dad saw it, thought it was cool and bought one for the rifle I built him. Meanwhile I'm screaming internally thinking about putting one of these on my gun, and wishing they'd put the money towards a better budget dot like a PA MD-ADS or a Holosun. Oh well. I've got the lil red dot on my AR pistol build now and I told him I'd beat the hell out of it.
This works like a charm for me:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A36MKUO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Xac7CbJF5XC1H
field sport like someone else said or
ABB red dot
which is just the field sport on a qd mount
said red dot taking a beating
Got you fam Just add a riser
If you bought the optic/laser and offset sights from Amazon, you can probably still return them and I would advise you to do so. Especially if you spent $90 on it as I see it currently listed.
You can get a cheap red dot and riser from Amazon to help you test the waters (~$30).
https://www.amazon.com/Field-Sport-Green-Micro-Sight/dp/B00D4AYBR6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1496439986&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=field+sport+red+dot
https://www.amazon.com/UTG-super-Picatinny-Riser-Mount/dp/B01BI0I9AS/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1496439986&amp;sr=8-19&amp;keywords=field+sport+red+dot
That said, your build is really centered more around distance shooting with that 18" barrel. If you're wanting to move into magnified optics, expect to spend a minimum of $150 on a scope and mount.
I know that all sounds kind of dickish, but half the people here have done exactly what you have in some capacity (myself included). Learn from their mistakes. If you want some magnified optics, I'd be happy to offer some suggestions.
Are these that good and worth it?
I have a spitfire 3x sitting around but doesn't get as much use beacuse it's on the blurry side up close:
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-SPR-1303-Spitfire-EBR-556B/dp/B00HYRGNLM/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1472921466&amp;sr=8-1-fkmr1&amp;keywords=vortex+prism+4x
Is it worth selling that and picking this up?
http://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-SPR-1303-Spitfire-EBR-556B/dp/B00HYRGNLM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1453355505&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=spitfire+optic
Here's the PSA kit I got. http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-chf-mid-length-5-56-nato-1-7-ultra-light-moe-defender-rifle-kit.html
Stripped PSA blem lower.
Fired it for the first time this weekend and didn't have any problems.
Looking for a decent scope for under 400. Thinking about asking Santa for http://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-SPR-1303-Spitfire-EBR-556B/dp/B00HYRGNLM.
No Glock to post, sorry guys.
Well the only similar sight that I know of is the Russian version, and I doubt that it's affordable or even exported to the US. The Russians had their older PSO-1 (4x24 unfortunately) and I think HK made a similar mount back in the day. The Aimpoint RDS is a popular red dot that you can then magnify with a...think its called a pineapple mount?
http://www.amazon.com/Mako-Magnifier-Reflex-Sights-Generation/dp/B001LZV55C you can hook this one up to a flipsight and pretend you're in call if duty.
Aimpoint makes the same thing but demands a much higher price I'm sure.
http://www.amazon.com/EoTech-G33-STS-BLK-G33-Magnifier-Switch/dp/B008CXKX7M you can buy the real thing and OH BOY ITS HALF OFF but of course operator gear comes with a huge price tag.
Trijicon makes a 3x version of the acog for 1k, lmao
http://www.amazon.com/Firefield-3x-Combat-Gun-Sight/dp/B006GOK5BI firefield makes a cost effective sight with only so-so reviews on amazon, google shopping brought up 179 reviews averaging at 4.5 stars. Has a small top rail for diddlies, bonus.
I found some other cost effective sights including a copy of the eotech flipsight but it appears that you get what you pay for in the realm of combat sights. You can buy a pretender that works well at the range or you can buy the milspec stuff. There are plenty of good consumer grade options outside of the military stuff but it's up to you. I personally haven't used any of these but of course its hard to go wrong with EO or Aimpoint. Will update this post with more links, at this point I'm just saving ya google time though.
Heres a Vortex 3x that holds a zero at 100 yards according to the top review, but I'd hope people are going to shoot farther out than that with a magnified scope...
http://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Spitfire-EBR-556B-Reticle-SPR-1303/dp/B00HYRGNLM
And heres the eotech flipup clone:
http://www.amazon.com/Sightmark-3x-Tactical-Magnifier-Slide-Side/dp/B004TDPVBW
If you head to primaryarms.com and click on scopes, there's tons of choices there for 3x or 1-4x all at pretty affordable prices.
Zeiss and Trijicon make rifle scopes that hit 3x but ofc those aren't combat sights and the eye relief is going to be small.
A forum posts mentions that you should keep the scope mount below 12 inches so that it doesn't interfere with charging handle operation, keep that in mind if you didn't know. From the same post, someone uses a primary arms 1-4x scope and is happy with it. Once again but a combat scope though.
That's everything that I could dig up, had nothing better to do so there ya go. Hope that helps ya.
Not positive if it's the same model but it's 89.99 free shipping with prime on Amazon for the black version. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NC1G0KI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_gfeaCb01E6HY4 sorry for the long link, on mobile and can't remember how to format.
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Older model so so with as you will.
Mine is a cheap amazon knock off, and I was originally going to avoid those, but a gun nut channel on youtube gave it glowing reviews so I dropped the few bucks on it.
I absolutely love it, both the sight and mount I got hold zero quite effectively, and it comes with all you need like variable brightness and zero controls.
It likely won't hold up to rigorous torture tests, but for what I use it for, WELL worth the money.
I’ve used this cheap ass red dot for about 8 months of play and it has been fantastic.
FieldSport Micro Red Dot https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Y3SZEJC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_EDq8yb6XMT8XS
This is the best, cheap red dot ever. You'll have to buy a riser for co-witness, but even then you are under $40. There's also a video of some dude torture testing this sight and having it work perfectly.
Get this. FieldSport Micro Red Dot Sight, Precision Red Dot Only No Green https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Y3SZEJC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_43p8AbKGAY08E
I have a Yankee Hill rear flip up on one of my builds that I really like. But it was like $75 just for the rear.
Or, I know I'll get crap for this, there's a cheap $20 red dot on Amazon that's actually pretty tough. Nobody's expecting you to spend as much on an optic as you are on the rifle. Yet. My buddy put an ACOG on his M&P15 and I think it's crazy his optic costs twice as much as his rifle. But maybe I'm just jealous.
For $200 I recommend this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01AWB3DIM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
for $20 I recommend this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Y3SZEJC/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I own both, and so far both have been reliable, you'd think the $20 one would be a POS but it is surprisingly well built. And if you aim it at a mirror in dim light the red dot in the scope is almost impossible to see... meanwhile, the Votex one is very obvious, almost like you're pointing a laser towards someone, so for stealth the cheaper one is better. But for build quality and toughness I am guessing the Votex is superior.
I’ve really been liking mine. its a little hard to make fast and loose rules about optics. Oddly, $50 replicas of high end optics like Eotechs are garbage, while $16 replicas of generic red dots work like a charm.
So far, between real and replica the best bang for my buck was one of these cheap babies
As much as I love a tube style red dot, having the whole side area open (in my opinion) makes the whole sight feel less likes it blocking your line of sight, and feels more like you are peering out a window vs down a toilet paper roll. To each his own though!
When it comes to zoom optics, I’ve used 3-9x scopes and found both are a little over powered for airsoft unless you plan on just sniping. If you are using an M4 I’m assuming you will want to perform multiple functions, and I found bringing up the scope & quickly getting a good sight picture was not worth the effort. You simply won’t be shooting that far.
I’ve also used this one and I like it a lot, https://www.amazon.com/Dagger-Defense-Reflex-Substitute-Holographic/dp/B00ZM3TMO0
What about this one? $42
I believe it is this one Dagger Defense
Holosun makes some inexpensive but quality red dots.
https://www.amazon.com/HOLOSUN-HS403B-Micro-Sight-Riser/dp/B01BJ3ZXD0
I`v also been using a Sightmark M-Spec.
https://www.amazon.com/Sightmark-Ultra-M-Spec-Reflex-Sight/dp/B00JAE11Z0
Neither are Aimpoint or Eotech, though both offer similar features and quality.
I like holosun, depending on what 'budget' means to you...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BJ3ZXD0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_uWw8ybP4CMT5V
Sig Sauer Romeo 5
https://www.amazon.com/Sig-Sauer-SOR52001-Romeo5-Compact/dp/B01C95I8N4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1518642957&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Sig+Sauer+ROMEO5
that is.,..way too expensive...https://www.amazon.com/Sig-Sauer-SOR52001-Romeo5-Compact/dp/B01C95I8N4
Nah, a new one is ~100 bucks more, but a used one works just as well.
Honestly if you specifically need/want a holo-sight I would save up. $115 is not that much more for a huge jump in quality: http://www.amazon.com/EOTech-512-A65-Tactical-HOLOgraphic-Batteries/dp/B000KKFVRC
Buy once cry once.
Damn that's a lot of 22s! I really enjoy the 795. I used the iron sights for 2 months or so, but got tired of them. I bought a Barska 3-9x Plinker scope, and it's pretty great, though a little blurry at the higher powers.
It's a 3-9x32... not sure of the exact model number. Here's the link to amazon where I got it. Seems to have gotten good reviews. http://www.amazon.com/Barska-AC10380-BARSKA-Plinker-22-Riflescope/dp/B001JJCHWK/
Ok.. Decided on the cheap scope and bought the weaver 24 rails.
This is the scope
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001JJCHWK/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
I thought I didn't need to buy rings, but I guess the scope comes with the wrong type of rings.
So now I'm looking at rings like these:
http://www.amazon.com/AccuShot-Premium-1-Inch-See-Thru-Profile/dp/B001WJ67S2/ref=pd_bxgy_sg_text_b
I'm not sure if I need high medium or low. Advice?
I have both of these on my Savage..
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001JJCHWK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001WJ59BI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Very pleased with the scope for $40..
look at the fourth image this isn't the same scope but it's similar and should give you an idea what I mean.
Troy Industries is a great one to go to
Here are some HK Style AR front sights, IMO, good for Co-Witness
Matech BUIS
Daniel Defense
Bravo Company
Just a few quick recommendations ;D
Elevation is for range adjustment. You might have learned a different word for it, but it's the same thing. I think it's just a matter of preference. Have you actually used the elevation adjustment out that far? I've heard a lot of military branches are using the Matech sights now. That may be what you're looking for.
I would recommend you buy this upper receiver/parts kit set
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-m4-moe-rifle-kit.html
(Don't worry about the "offer expires tomorrow" thing. PSA has sales all the time)
A PSA/Spikes Tactical/Aero Precision/any milspec stripped lower receiver. Unfortunately, due to the elections there's a shortage of lower receivers on the market so they are out of stock pretty much everywhere.
This rear sight
https://www.amazon.com/MaTech-Mil-Spec-Back-up-Iron-Sight/dp/B002E6SXN4
Or you could go with this combo.
http://www.surplusammo.com/saa-sa-15-grim-reaper-ar15-complete-lower-with-collapsing-stock/
http://palmettostatearmory.com/ptac-16-m4-1-7-upper-with-bolt-carrier-group-and-charging-handle.html
The most important thing about building a basic AR-15 is to make sure all of its parts are at least milspec and the rifle has a 5.56 chamber. That will usually solve any reliability problems. Once you start to get better at shooting, you can start upgrading your rifle with better triggers(geissele), matching upper/lower sets, BCM/NOVESKE/LWRC/VLTOR part/complete rifles.
Once you master shooting with iron sights, you can start using red dot/scopes.
Looks like a Colt 6940 with a Matech BUIS
Assume autocorrect changed Matech to Match?
The MaTech BUIS goes out to 600M. http://www.amazon.com/MaTech-Mil-Spec-Back-up-Iron-Sight/dp/B002E6SXN4
I sold the Magpul rear I had and installed the MaTech BUIS if I ever need to shoot that far. Not even having to remove my Eotech EXPS3. Being able to shoot irons and co-witness without removing Eotech was important to me in buying it. Before anyone asks even with 600m setting the Eotech somehow still puts the dot right on top of the front post when looking through the BUIS. Far smaller dot than what the front sight would cover at 600M. No wonder why the combo is purchased by the Military.
So a UTG like this is a better option?
Also I do plan on getting better [set up] (http://www.amazon.com/Matech-Mil-Spec-Back-Iron-Sight/dp/B002E6SXN4/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1369883131&amp;sr=8-1-fkmr0&amp;keywords=USGI+Matech+flip-up+sights) once I have the cash.
Matech is an awesome sight, and it's what a lot of Marines are issued. Amazon doesn't have them in stock now, but I believe they're around 60 bucks or so. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002E6SXN4/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1376021909&amp;sr=8-2&amp;pi=AC_SX110_SY190
Yes it is, just not a rail like on a rifle, it's a weaver rail: https://www.amazon.com/Aimkon-HiLight-P10S-Flashlight-Release/dp/B0036S5W42/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1468617300&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=pistol+light This light would fit it, look for something similar
That's the Mako one for like $30 on Amazon. I was testing it to see if an optic mount like that would be good for a reflex sight. It's not horrible (the concept of an optic that high off the bore axis), but i've realized that I want MOS milling.
I regret buying that cheap plastic thing. The light is great for the price (super bright and good strobe) and the reflex sight is ok once I got it dialed in. The Mako optic mount is crap. For starters, the part where the replacement trigger pin goes in extrudes into trigger guard area making it uncomfortable to shoot. The replacement front rail is too small and made my light fly off at the range (where it is normally snug on the Glock rail). Finally, it's a bear to get off.
I am getting alot of shit for the "mall ninja" accessories, but I'm glad I opted for cheaper to see what works well in my intended setup. Im glad I didn't spend $300 for an ALG (too high off bore axis), $300 for a brand-name light (this one is fucking bright), and glad the $20 reflex sight does pretty well. I can interchange it and my main red dot for my AR-15 in .22lr.
I want a TLR light it's just the price right now. I have a small LED I keep with my 19 but I want a light on it. Just after the 19, sights, safe, rounds, CWP costs, etc I am about $1k into it.
I would like to find a cool kith that wasn't $200-$300 and decent as a temporary until I invest $200-300 into a TLR with light and laser.
Considering the Amazon reviews I might get this : Hilight 300 Lumen Pistol LED Strobe Flashlight with Weaver Quick Release https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0036S5W42/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_eAZfub0FMDS9S
This is the one I purchased a month ago. Same idea as the one in your link. Very easy to take on and off, and no wiggle. Very bright too. I had my girlfriend point the light at me across our house and it was near blinding at night.
Aimkon HiLight P10S 400 Lumen Pistol LED Strobe Flashlight with Weaver Quick Release, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0036S5W42/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_eOs5wbRJ0YNF1
http://www.amazon.com/Hilight-Pistol-Strobe-Flashlight-Release/dp/B0036S5W42/
It's not a TLR-1 clone because the TLR-1 is already in that mid-level price range between Chinese CREE lights and Surefire. This is essentially a mid-quality CREE light, as will be most other decent quality tactical lights between $30-60.
I mean I just threw it on there cause I had it. No offense taken. This is the pistol light I have. Nothing special but it works for me https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0036S5W42/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1519412693&amp;sr=8-3&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&amp;keywords=pistol+light&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=41HExaIizZL&amp;ref=plSrch
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0036S5W42/ref=sr_ph_1?qid=1451016215&amp;sr=sr-1&amp;pi=AC_SX118_SY170_QL70&amp;keywords=gun+light There you go. Only had it a few days so no idea how it holds up.
I carry a Glock 17 in an Old Faithful IWB holster at ~ 4 o'clock.
Sometimes, I'll carry the Glock 17 in a Kangaroo carry holster over my left pectoral depending on if I need to do a lot of bending/squatting in public and want to prevent printing or my shirt riding up (Doing photography at a wedding for example).
I also keep a spare mag loose in my back pocket and a rail light in my cargo pocket (can't afford a new holster to accomodate the light for now).
hows this?
http://www.amazon.com/Field-Sport-Green-Reflex-Reticles/dp/B00457SRBI/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1416051109&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=red+dot+reticle
I prefer open sights and got one of these
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00457SRBI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_FM0hybWH275C2
The sight you also linked appears to be a NC star red dot sight so I wonder why its tagged as an Ultimate arms one. It says NC star on yours correct? any chance you have a picture of the sight with the poly carb shield taped on the front?
also I wonder how this sight compares:
http://www.amazon.com/Field-Sport-Green-Reflex-Reticles/dp/B00457SRBI/ref=pd_bxgy_200_img_2?ie=UTF8&amp;refRID=12ZYF6NE0G3P7CP5SB90
Does anyone think this would work?
Field Sport Red and Green Sight
Here is a reflex sight from Amazon. I have one of their red dots on my 15-22/AR15. Its a pretty decent little red dot for less than $50 for the red dot and rise. They have a bunch of different options.
https://www.amazon.com/Field-Sport-Green-Reflex-Reticles/dp/B00457SRBI
EDIT: this site has a few other options including RMR type red dots. https://monstrumtactical.com/collections/red-dot-sights
I use this on my CM it's $26 right now with free shipping. Its metal, red and green, four different modes, five brightness levels, and in six months I have yet to change the battery. Here It is in black for $22.
This is the one.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00457SRBI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
What's your zip so I can calculate shipping please.
Do you know if this sight is the same as the one by ncstar?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00457SRBI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1412918668&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=SY200_QL40
That 10/22 isn't the base model, which variant is that? it looks sweet. My red dot was a Cheapy off Amazon
One of the best ways to feel more comfortable with your carry piece is to train and to wear it.
Wear it around at home. You'll get used to the feeling and eventually you won't notice it - you'll just notice it when it's not there.
Also train. Train train train. Shoot at the range at least once a month. Get a training round (they have other calibers) and train at home. You can use the training round to work on your draw from conceal, trigger control, and all around accuracy. You'll feel a lot more comfortable with your carry piece when you know you can quickly draw your sidearm without fumbling for it.
As for carry locations, I'm a guy - and other people have already spoken on that topic. So I'd listen to them, not me on that.
There's a laser insert i use that's pretty awesome and has no rim for the extractor to catch. Great for drawing and shooting and it puts a quick red flash on what you hit.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004NKY23E
As others have ssid, dry fire practice. And while snap caps are nice.
I'd recommend this instead.
For knowing everything you're doing is correct there's nothing like real time feedback.
I use mine constantly and it translates to live fire accuracy in profound ways.
I say invest in these:
https://www.amazon.com/Laserlyte-Laser-Trainer-9-mm-Cartridge/dp/B004NKY23E
They helped my shooting more than anything. They even have targets that make it like a game. When I started, live ammo was actually reinforcing some bad habits. I began anticipating and jerking the trigger. I would leave the range more frustrated than when I started, and it felt like a waste of money. Laserlyte cartridges helped me work on the fundamentals like drawing, presenting, sight alignment, and trigger pull. The best part was I could practice every day in the house. They made me a better shooter in days.
Hard to tell but it could be one of those Sightmarks.
http://www.amazon.com/Sightmark-Ultra-Sight-Digital-Switch/dp/B004TDIDW6
I got this puppy a while back to try out for my AR.
Threw it on my airsoft rfile and it works like a dream. Took a BB to the glass first time out and cracked but it still holds a zero no problem.
Aimpoint Pros are pretty popular and relatively inexpensive while high quality. The battery life is something on the order of 3-4 years even left on. I'm actually considering selling one to help fund a cross country move.
I have the same gun. BTW you will NOT regret the purchase. This gun will do everything a $1000-1500 gun will do. If i were you id fist swap out the stock for one with a recoil pad this is a good one here:
https://www.magpul.com/products/moe-sl-carbine-stock-mil-spec
(to save you research the stock specs for your gun are carbine & mil-spec)
Next would be an optic. I really like the vortex optic below:
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-StrikeFire-Cantilever-SF-RG-501/dp/B010OT8WAQ/ref=sr_1_4?s=hunting-fishing&ie=UTF8&qid=1542048825&sr=1-4&keywords=vortex+red+dot
But i ended up going with an aimpoint pro because i got a good deal.
https://www.amazon.com/Aimpoint-PRO-Patrol-Rifle-Optic/dp/B007GDR0I4/ref=sr_1_2?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1542048949&sr=1-2&keywords=aimpoint+pro
I'd very much recommend coughing up the extra $48 for an Aimpoint P.R.O. (Patrol Rifle Optic). Top of the line, exceptionally durable/reliable, and very reasonably priced red dot. Literally perfect for the X95. Superior even to most acogs or holo sights. 10/10.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007GDR0I4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_4e.oyb19GP1W8
https://www.amazon.com/Aimpoint-PRO-Patrol-Rifle-Optic/dp/B007GDR0I4
http://www.primaryarms.com/vortex-strike-eagle-1-6x24mm-rifle-scope-ar-bdc-reticle-se-1624-1
http://www.primaryarms.com/vortex-optics-cantilever-ring-mount-for-30mm-tube-2in-offset-cm-202
Aimpoint PRO's go on sale for around $400 or less. lapolicegear.com had them for $360 shipped a few weeks ago. The Aimpoint is actually cheaper than the Stirke Eagle and the cantilever mount, so it seems like a very fair trade to me.
Ok, that’s a weird law. Wasn’t familiar. Here’s a good option for you that will be MD legal.
Not much more than the RRA you’re looking at and it comes with the Colt name and QA. Use the extra $$ to pick up an Aimpoint PRO and drop in quad rail.
You should be able to ask them to swap in an MD legal magazine when you order.
Colt 6721 Carbine
Aimpoint PRO
Midwest Industries Quad Rail
This setup will be top of the line, bombproof quality and the rifle and optic will outlast you.
Prove it.
It's never gone below $390 on amazon, pretty good estimation of average price. http://camelcamelcamel.com/Aimpoint-PRO-Patrol-Rifle-Optic/product/B007GDR0I4
There aren't any good replica eotechs unfortunately. There's this and this though which are okay. The first one is a bit dim for outdoors use in bright sunlight though.
Just go for a t1 replica.
It is literally one of these:
CVLIFE 1X22X33 Red Green Dot Gun Sight Scope Reflex Sight with 20mm Rail https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A36MKUO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_xIECDb2HG7VK0
This is a good reflex:
https://www.opticsplanet.com/trijicon-3-25-adj-red-rmr-type-2.html
Cvlife, was on amazon, here https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A36MKUO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ffd1CbJQ3W66Q
Essentials:
G&G Firehawk
2x Battery
Charger
Eye protection
Mouth protection
Extra's:
Extra magazine
Red dot
Silencer seems pretty stupid on a stubby gun, but if you really want one go ahead and take whichever one you like. The G&G Firehawk is a solid starter CQB gun with a very nice sound + ROF. I'd stay away from those starter package, those are just some sales talk to get rid of their shittiest options.
If it works, then it works.
[field sport red dot](Field Sport Red and Green Micro Dot Sight https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00D4AYBR6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_h5qgzbARRBQED)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00D4AYBR6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_ro3azbFSFB2Y5
Field Sport Red and Green Micro Dot Sight https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00D4AYBR6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_U5kKzbQ2ZA980
its $20 and i've been running this for a few months now and its durable and rugged.
For cheapness you can get a Fieldsport Micro Dot from amazon for $20 and a UTG Riser Mount. I do not recommend using these sights without a riser.
If you want to spend some actual cash on a really good optic I recommend either a primary arms T1 and riser or a [Holosun] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NC1G0KI/ref=dp_cerb_2). Dutch uses a Primary Arms but IMO the holosun is probably the best budget real steel optic on the market.
T1 Repro
I have this one. For 20 bucks it's been great.
It performed great. I oiled it a bit before a went so I didn't have any jams or other issues going through 100 rounds.
I zeroed it in at 50 yards. And after I got used to it, my groupings were getting pretty solid.
Model: Adams Arms -16" Carbine
Site: Field Sport Red and Green Micro Dot Sigh w/ a 0.83" riser mount
this does look pretty sick I may need to acquire this soon - I like that its 3x and that even if the battery goes down you can see the etched reticle
guess my only concern is that BUIS would not work since it is a magnified optic?
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-SPR-1303-Spitfire-EBR-556B/dp/B00HYRGNLM
Burris AR332. It's a prism red dot almost identical to the Vortex Spitfire Prism for a fraction of the price. That being said, I do like the reticle on the Vortex better but for the price I'd go Burris all day.
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Going for an M16A4 clone.
Size limit?
For my carbine build I have the Vortex Optics SPR-1303, a 3x sight that's awesome. Runs about $300. https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-SPR-1303-Spitfire-EBR-556B/dp/B00HYRGNLM/ref=cm_rdp_product
For my rifle build I have the Nikon P-223 for $165. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006YVT0R8/ref=od_aui_detailpages01?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I have shot this Vortex Spitfire at the range on a Sig mcx. A really good priced scope, accurate with great eye relief.
Vortex Optics SPR-1303 Spitfire 3x Prism Scope with EBR-556B Reticle (MOA), Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HYRGNLM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_bljsybA2F50FV
Red dot then add a 3x flip up magnifier if you find yourself actually shooting at 300 yards often.
Holosun red dot
https://www.amazon.com/HOLOSUN-HS403A-Micro-Red-Sight/dp/B00KOOEZ6W/ref=sr_1_3?s=sports-and-fitness&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1510950778&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=holosun&amp;dpID=41sEuJwjs8L&amp;preST=_SY300_QL70_&amp;dpSrc=srch
Well reviewed "budget" red dot. 50,000 (!!!) hour battery life so you can leave the red dot on all the time and only change the battery every couple years, great for HD.
For a magnifier, the vortex are reputed to be good, larue makes an excellent one, just get whatever you like
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-VMX-3T-Magnifier-Flip-Mount/dp/B00BQWTC14/ref=pd_bxgy_200_2?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=XBBPB53AR6F40EMBRCZF
I have the Holosun HS403a on my 300blk "pistol". Love it. Great optic.
I got it before they were the 'hot' new thing for $125 shipped on Amazon direct from Holosun. They are now up to $171 shipped.
http://www.amazon.com/HOLOSUN-Micro-Red-Sight-Riser/dp/B00KOOEZ6W
I'd buy that again in a heart beat, more expensive and all.
Holosun Red Dots are supposed to be the nuts, it's what I'm going to get as an alternative to my visionking scope. Smack bang in the middle of your price range at $162.00, classic AR15 style aimpoint clone:
https://www.amazon.com/HOLOSUN-HS403A-Micro-Red-Sight/dp/B00KOOEZ6W
Loads of people are using them on RS as a budget aimpoint alternative.
I personally like to Co-witness with irons especially ones that are as minimal as the Scorpions are. They are great sights on their own and stay out of the way when using a red dot. That being said, I went from a Vortex Sparc II that I LOVED. For the price you might want to look into these as well!
Of the options you're talking about, I would definitely go with the Holosun. The Spitfire would be HUGE on a Scorpion and the Eotech is just a little too bulky for the platform. Both of those would negate having such a small gun imo. I'm going to swap over to an RMR because its small and light and gets the exact same job done without being in the way at all. I might even do a Vortex Viper since their warranty is great and its like 1/2 the price of even the cheapest RMR.
I've used Holosuns in the past and I've found them to be every bit as good as an Aimpoint for what I'm using it for. They're awesome and cheap as hell. Even these Primary Arms red dots are incredible for the price. If you don't care about push button operation and are fine with a little dial to adjust brightness, you can get the same thing for like $90!
for some reason the Primary arms link isnt working, also, Amazon has a basic version of that primary arms micro for $90
Im watching several reviews on different options right now. Still looking for a budget handguard as well.
https://www.amazon.com/HOLOSUN-HS403C-Solar-Power-Micro/dp/B00U2KMVCI
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one thing i recommend is that your but stock is skinny or it messes with the mask and looking down your sights
https://www.amazon.com/HOLOSUN-HS403C-Solar-Power-Micro/dp/B00U2KMVCI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1498136089&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=holosun+solar
$150 for the original
edit: And solar
I have a we gbb m14 and this red dot has held up just fine to the kick.
FieldSport Micro Red Dot Sight
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Y3SZEJC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_79sWAb4V486RE
$20 red dots on Amazon perform like $300 red dots. Much better than a $180 sight for someone on a budget.
Reviews:
Part 1
Part 2
No, this is the one you want. Excellent.
This is the sight you're probably thinking about
This one?
https://www.amazon.com/FieldSport-Micro-Sight-Precision-Green/dp/B00Y3SZEJC
I need one and would definitely be down to try a cheap one for only $20!
Field Sport Red Dot and a riser. As for foregrips, look for M LOK grips. I like the Aim Sports M Lok Grip on my G&G.
Oh cool, I didn't know you could do that. Would this adapter be another good alternative to that? I read reviews on other cheap adapters and they say that the screws inside of them can break, making them wobbly.
Also, would this be a good optic for it? Thanks!
$22.65 shipped on amazon. Best damn optic for the buck. Works on real steel no problemo. Theres a youtube video of it being tortured and it survives everything.
FieldSport Micro Red Dot Sight, Precision Red Dot Only No Green https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Y3SZEJC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_ZOW6ybPKKQGRM
Easily this one: FieldSport Micro Red Dot Sight, Precision Red Dot Only No Green https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Y3SZEJC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_vv1hybMP097JJ
Watch this video of it: https://youtu.be/C1Ej1unT0mQ
https://www.amazon.com/FieldSport-Micro-Sight-Precision-Green/dp/B00Y3SZEJC
^ THIS.
Real steel red dot. No nonsense.
Looks sexy on most guns.
Since you're new to airsoft I suggest getting a cheaper red dot at first. This red dot is pretty good, only 20 bucks and has great reviews. For the height you should get a rail riser, like this.
Edit: also any normal red dot should fit on your rail system
If anyone is looking for an ultra budget red dot the TRS-25 can't really be beat.
But....If you want something ultra cheap I would highly recommend [This Red Dot from Amazon.]
(https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Y3SZEJC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1)
I have put about 500 rounds thru an AR and about 50 Bolts thru my crossbow with this optic and it's been great.
Here is a review and torture test.
Here's the link to it.
I have one as well and have no complaints.. But it is just on my Ruger 10/22
this is a budget real steel red dot which is quite good quality, here is a link:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Y3SZEJC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I don't think a FAL is a good gun for much of anything. If you intend on making it your primary though do yourself the favor and run a few hundred rounds through it at the range. Just see how well it holds up and get used to the sights on it by standard just in case.
If all goes well with the shooting test then Id go for the upgrades. I would go with the new stock and probably get a nice RDS on it like the dagger defense DDHB or for longer ranges something like a Trijicon ACOG TA01, however its on the more expensive side of things... For a stock, when I looked its kinda slim pickings but I didn't look too hard but I liked this one a good bit.
Dagger Defense DDHB Red Dot... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZM3TMO0?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EWAAWGU/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1. Shows as unavailable, but the same thing is probably on AMZ somewhere under another brand name -- poke around.
EDIT: Its probably the sames as this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZM3TMO0/ref=sspa_dk_detail_5?psc=1
Yeah that's Amazon for you, there's always several versions of the same product being sold by different people with the only actual difference being the laser engraved logo. This is the sight that I bought, so that is what I based my price on. If no one is interested after a week or two I will lower the price accordingly.
I would look into this sight. Not one of the brands you hear often suggested but I have heard good things about it and that particular sight. Plus, it's a bit more on the affordable side of sights if you aren't looking to drop loads of cash on something you won't like or won't need.
Love the Dagger Defense red dot scope, have it on my .223 SBR and I can shoot relatively easily out to 50yds. Holds zero quite well too!
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZM3TMO0/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
http://amzn.com/B00ZM3TMO0 isn't bad for the money. Its made for real steel.
Vortex SPARC AR
Or
Primary Arms Advanced Micro Dot
Or
HOLOSUN HS403B
All are good, but for the prices the Primary Arms or Holosun are a better bet due to the 50k hours battery life.
Then buy a lightweight magnifier with QD mount so you can either leave it on our take it off depending on your current setup or shooting preference.
That's all pretty much in the $300 range for both the dot and the magnifier.
Optics are not necessary, it really depends on your preference. AKs have (arguably) some of the worst iron sights of all rifles, that's why I recommended a optic. Some people use irons, some don't even aim at all, they just shoot and correct. I personally use a red dot.
Most people tend to use replica Aimpoint T1 red dots. We commonly recommend saving a little more and getting a low end real steel optic like the Bushnell, Primary Arms, or Holosun. All of these are based on the T1 design, are are meant to function on real firearms.
I rather meant something like this HOLOSUN Hs403b Micro red dot Optik (2 moa) https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01BJ3ZXD0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_741xDb6R9KE1C versus https://www.begadi.com/zielhilfen/reddots-pointsights/begadi-acog-style-reddot-schwarz.html
Holosun red dot 2 MOA http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01BJ3ZXD0/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?qid=1463938281&amp;sr=8-6&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&amp;keywords=holosun+red+dot&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=41d3NM9-eSL&amp;ref=plSrch
403B
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01BJ3ZXD0/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Worked brilliantly on my AR, comes with cowitness riser for Ars with a2 front sight posts.
I went with this due to its insane battery life and cost. Cant afford much more than the holosun line.
I have not even shot it on the AK yet. The optics mount just came in last night.
At 500, you're looking at good selection of quality optics.
The aimpoint pro is like $450 and it's typical aimpoint quality.
https://www.opticsplanet.com/aimpoint-pro-patrol-rifle-optic-red-dot-riflescope-30mm.html
If you're looking to go cheaper anything that vortex makes as a dot is around $150-$250 and will serve you well with a lifetime warranty.
http://www.vortexoptics.com/category/red_dots
I just got a Sig Sauer Romeo 5 a month ago and its pretty solid. I can first hand recommend these optics.
https://www.amazon.com/Sig-Sauer-SOR52001-Romeo5-Compact/dp/B01C95I8N4
I've been genuinely impressed by these if you want to go the red dot route.
https://www.amazon.com/Sig-Sauer-SOR52001-Romeo5-Compact/dp/B01C95I8N4
Isn’t this model $120 on Amazon w/free shipping via Prime?
Link
Well, it's constantly sold at that price most places I've seen it. But yeah, it's not a bad price, it's just the price.
https://www.amazon.com/Sig-Sauer-SOR52001-Romeo5-Compact/dp/B01C95I8N4
If you're wanting a good RDS for the money, the Vortex SPARC or Crossfire are always good and have a really good resale value. Those will run you about $250 though.
For the most part you get what you pay for, but I see a lot of people using a Sig Sauer Romeo5. It's an excellent RDS for the price (about $130).
The Romeo5 is on sale at Amazon right now: https://www.amazon.com/Sig-Sauer-SOR52001-Romeo5-Compact/dp/B01C95I8N4/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=Sig+Sauer+SOR52001+Romeo5+1x20mm+Compact+2+Moa+Red+Dot+Sight%2C+Black&amp;qid=1559135124&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-1
I personally wouldn't recommend anything with an MSRP below $100.
I like the PA with this mount
This is for sale on amazon for $130. I would do $100 shipped? I don’t want the MI mount
crossfire
Me personally I’m gonna get the Sig Sauer Romeo5 1x20mm Compact 2 Moa Red Dot Sight off amazon for $125. It’s a decent deal to me plus my buddy has one on the same exact rifle and it’s nice sight for the price.
Sig Sauer SOR52001 Romeo5 1x20mm Compact 2 Moa Red Dot Sight, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C95I8N4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_a04yCbX03ZDJ3
What's the difference between that one and this one?
It also has motion activated illumination. But is the quality still good?
check out gundeals for a good deal on MBUS or do a holosun
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GDL22O6/ref=sspa_dk_detail_2?psc=1
https://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/upper-assemblies?price=100-200&spec_length=289&spec_platform=442
Bear Creek has complete uppers (inc bcg/ch) for under $200.
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ar15-complete-classic-stealth-lower.html
Complete lowers (PSA) can be had for $119.00 up.
https://www.amazon.com/Magpul-Industries-Generation-Backup-Sights/dp/B01GDL22O6/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1USH4X8M6HUX3&dchild=1&keywords=magpul+buis+sights&qid=1574624940&sprefix=magpul+buis%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-4
Magpul BUIS for $80.00
Also, factor in shipping and the FFL transfer fee.
I actually don't think I am going to go with any of these. More than likely I will go with the Gen 2 Magpul BUIS (Back Up Iron Sights). My gun nut buddy rocks them on more than one of his ARs and swears by them, and I figure I'm going to be keeping them around for a good long while so might as well drop some cash for a proven product.
Here's a link, they run about $70 right now. They have a similar, cheaper set available, but it is usually just used for airsoft.
https://www.amazon.com/Magpul-Industries-Generation-Backup-Sights/dp/B01GDL22O6/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1509597677&amp;sr=8-1-spons&amp;keywords=magpul+sights&amp;psc=1
If $70 dollars is too steep, the Tacticon sights I listed are worth looking at. I've never handled them, but they seem like a reputable company and the positive reviews are just about identical to Magpul's. There was also talk of the UTG iron sights. I checked them out, but the reviews weren't as positive. Sucks, because they look badass.
In any case, my rifle won't be here for about another two weeks. I'll keep a look out for a good sale that may change my mind.
Incidentally, I handled a Smith and Wesson M&P Sport II .22lr a few months ago. I was deeply considering getting a little .22 AR for some cheap practice. It came with some sights that I absolutely loved. Very snappy, great construction, very nice. Turns out, they were Magpul Gen 2s.
Sure! Here is a link for MBUS Pro
Magpul MBUS PRO Steel Sight Set MAG275 &amp; MAG276 BLACK https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CLGLRD0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_s43FybPR012JG
And here is a link to the regular MBUS
Magpul Industries MBUS Generation II Sight Set Front &amp; Rear Color BLACK https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GDL22O6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_c53FybAB9HG4F
>generally regarded as trash and so is the vast majority of Amazon optics.
What you buy matters, not from where:
https://www.amazon.com/Primary-Arms-Illuminated-Scope-Black/dp/B00GX66ZDQ
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Spitfire-Prism-Scope/dp/B00HYRGNLM
https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Zone-223-Reticle-Riflescope-Turrets/dp/B00ABP5UXG
https://www.amazon.com/Trijicon-Illuminated-Horseshoe-Ballistic-Reticle/dp/B0024MMRH6
Buy this I have one you won't be disappointed especially for the price
https://www.amazon.com/HOLOSUN-HS403C-Solar-Power-Micro/dp/B00U2KMVCI/ref=sr_1_2?s=hunting-fishing&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1479226315&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=holosun
Laser's probably the wrong term. It's this:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZM3TMO0/ref=sxts_bia_sr_1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;pf_rd_p=3182441022&amp;pd_rd_wg=sll3O&amp;pf_rd_r=E6BWW2JEMEK65WR3PNFS&amp;pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-top-slot&amp;pf_rd_t=301&amp;pd_rd_i=B00ZM3TMO0&amp;pd_rd_w=tCT1Z&amp;pf_rd_i=dagger+sight&amp;pd_rd_r=800Y5FHKREBGV11X6X20&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1504897881&amp;sr=1
I have bought a few and all have worked and held zero. That said they are all range guns, so they aren't tossed around or abused.
This one has worked well for a couple of my AR pistols. The other CVLife, and Brownell sights have worked equally well in my experience.
Edit: After a brief look on Amazon, the Fyland, Dagger Defense, and similar ones should all work just the same. They all roll off the same Chinese factory line.