Best pc game racing wheels according to redditors
We found 514 Reddit comments discussing the best pc game racing wheels. We ranked the 54 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
We found 514 Reddit comments discussing the best pc game racing wheels. We ranked the 54 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
For anyone wondering, it's a T300 RS wheel, TH8A Shifter and T3PA pedal set. All from Thrustmaster. The chair is a Challenge from Playseat. And a PSVR, obviously.
Edit: /u/StephenSchleis requested that I add Amazon links, so here you go.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300RS-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-Racing/dp/B00O8B7D02/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480328681&sr=8-1&keywords=T300+RS
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-TH8A-Add-Gearbox-Shifter-Xbox/dp/B005L0Z2BQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480328694&sr=8-1&keywords=TH8A+Shifter
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T3PA-3-Pedal-Wide-Pedal-Add/dp/B00KX75W9O/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1480328694&sr=8-4&keywords=TH8A+Shifter
https://www.amazon.com/Playseat-Challenge/dp/B009ZELZDS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480328735&sr=8-1&keywords=playseat+challenge
Bonus tip, the T3PA pedals come with the conical brake mod. It’s well worth installing. Also, cut out a piece of carpet and stick it to the pedal base for a bit of extra comfort.
This is the one right here
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=sr_1_3?crid=30TMXSL6ODA23&keywords=thrustmaster&qid=1563234313&s=gateway&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sprefix=thrustmaster%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-3
As many people have mentioned, Star Citizen is still an in-development title, and there are lots of bugs and will likely continue to be lots of bugs for quite a while.
That being said, there are lots of people who are OK with this and are able to enjoy themselves, some fall on the other end of the spectrum and get really frustrated so it's worth keeping in mind that there is a 14 day refund policy. If you or he decides you aren't satisfied with your purchase, you can submit for a refund at any time in that 14 day window.
If you're still with us and you want to go ahead and buy him something, here's four strong options for you to consider:
1) Buy the Mustang Alpha Starter Package for $45 - https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Packages/Mustang-Alpha-Starter-Pack
2) Buy the Mustang Alpha Starter Package for $45 - https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Packages/Mustang-Alpha-Starter-Pack
Then upgrade it to an Avenger Titan using this $20 CCU (Cross Chassis Upgrade is an item that you will find in your hangar on the website after purchase and can then apply it to the Mustang Alpha to convert it into an Avenger Titan) - https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Upgrades/Mustang-Alpha-To-Avenger-Titan-Upgrade
Most players in Star Citizen have owned at one point, or currently own an Avenger because it is incredibly versatile for its price allowing you to do both combat and hauling stuff while not being paper thin. It's also the one I'd recommend the most for him. He can always use the CCU system to upgrade his ship to something else later once he has a better idea of what he wants to do.
3) If he's likely to mainly do combat, then perhaps the Arrow would be a good choice $90 - https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Packages/Anvil-Arrow-Starter-Pack
It will be noticeably more combat capable than the Avenger Titan, but it doesn't have any cargo space. It is a very popular ship right now for combat pilots.
4) If you really want to splurge, then get the Cutlass Black Package $115 - https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Packages/Cutlass-Black
The Cutlass Black is larger than all the other mentioned ships and it's the first real offering that gives you decent multi-crew features. It has an interior you can walk around in with a couple beds (beds are used for logging off if you're out in space instead of at a station), It has a good sized cargo bay that's great for traders. It has a copilot seat which can be used by a second person to help manage shields etc..
It also comes with a turret for some extra firepower. It has plenty of teeth, and you can't really go wrong with it.
 
If he really ends up liking the game, he should look into picking up some flight hardware (Joysticks etc..). I'd recommend either the t16000m FCS HOTAS $130
Or the dual t16000m setup $115
You can also just buy a single t16000m joystick for around $60 and then buy a second one later. They can be flipped to lefty pretty easily, so don't feel like you need to buy two right away.
In terms of bang for buck, there is no contest compared to these in the budget arena. I personally fly with two sticks, some people prefer the stick plus throttle.
 
In closing, my personal advice would be to buy him the Mustang Alpha ($45) and the CCU to the Avenger Titan ($20), then tell him you'll contribute X dollars towards some flight hardware (Joystick/throttle etc) or further ship CCU's once he knows what he wants.
Best of luck on your decision making!
Normally retails on Amazon for $250. Looks like it dropped to $150 sometime last spring.
https://camelcamelcamel.com/Thrustmaster-T150-PRO-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/product/B06XP1JZ53
So... below is my setup and WHY I personally do this. It's not ideal for everyone but it's what brings me the most joy flying in SC given my budget/space/style parameters. I don't play with dual sticks to be highly competitive or to see my name on the leaderboards. I do it because it makes flying that much more enjoyable for me.
I've been playing combat flight sims since the late 80's with one or two sticks and I've been a dual stick user in SC for a couple years now and love it. Most here will recommend two of the very capable and affordable Thrustmaster T16000M or the newer version, Thrustmaster VG T16000M FCS. Both of these sticks have molded bits on the handle that are removable and come with replacements so you can make them usable in the right or left hand.
While I use dual sticks, I don't use two T16000Ms and here's why:
Yes, the T16000M can be made to work right or left handed... and that's fantastic. That's why I use it in my LEFT hand. And while it's true the T16000M has LOTS of buttons on it, 12 of those buttons are on the base and only accessible in a dual stick setup by taking one hand off of one of your sticks. That's not ideal.
So, I went with a CH Fighterstick for my right hand. I've always loved CH products... they just feel a little more sturdy to me. But, the reason I did it was because ALL the buttons on the Fighterstick are ON THE STICK within reach of your fingers/thumb. There are triggers, buttons and hats that amount to 24 (I think) digital buttons (on/off) within reach of your hand that's already holding the stick.
The main argument for using dual sticks is to have six analog axis in your hands at all times (X, Y, twist for both sticks). The drawback though of my setup is that while the T16000M has three analog axis (X, Y, twist) on the stick, the CH Fighterstick only has two (X, Y... no twist). That means with just the sticks, I have five analog axis to work with. BUT, for me personally, that was a trade-off I was willing to make. Eventually, I have dreams of owning pedals to cover the missing axis.
Also, I fly with all fixed guns, no gimbals. That's how I remove the gimbal variable for myself. Again, this is a choice based on the way I like to play flight sims.
Here's my setup:
I've posted my HOSAS (Hands On Stick And Stick... otherwise known as Dual Sticks) setup details multiple times... so I apologize to those who keep seeing it. I post it here again not because I feel it is the best method/setup, but simply for you to consider and take bits from if you wish:
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> I know it's easier said than done, but if you have access to two sticks (friends peripherals) and a HOTAS setup, try both/all and see what feels good. You could also find a really cheap, used stick on Ebay or ShopGoodwill.com as a test. So long as the axis work, that's all you need to test the setup. Then, if you're happy with how it feels, invest in a proper stick. I just happened to have an old, barely working stick laying around that I used to test the dual stick setup. After 2 weeks, I was convinced it was right for me so I picked up a newer stick (still used though).
>
> Here's a graphic of my bindings
>
> If you're curious, here are the videos I have specifically about dual stick:
>
> My Dual Flightstick (aka HOSAS) Configuration
> Game Play: Squadron Battle with Dual Joystick Overlay
>
> Here's a breakdown of my setup:
>
> #Right Hand (main)
>
> CH Fighterstick
>
> ------------------------
>
> X-axis: roll
> Y-axis: pitch
> Trigger: fire weapon group 1
> Pinky button: fire weapon group 2
> Side 4-way hat switch: Vertical and Lateral strafe
> Top left 4-way hat switch:
> Left: switch countermeasure
> Right: launch countermeasure
> Down: missile lock
> Up: fire missle
> Top right 4-way hat switch:
> Up: target object in reticle
> Left: Cycle friendly targets
> Right: Cycle hostile targets
> Down: don't remember...
> 8-way hat: only use down right now to look behind
> Right side red index finger "mode" button: IFCS mode switch (SCM, PRE, CRU)
> Don't use top red button yet
>
>  
>
> #Left Hand (off hand)
>
> T16000M
>
> -------------------------------
>
> X-axis: yaw
> Y-axis:
> Front half of axis: throttle
> Back half of axis: backward strafe
> Twist: strafe lateral
> Trigger: boost
> Throttle lever: set and forget throttle
> Top Left button on stick: Push-to-talk for Mumble and what not
> Top Right button on stick: couple/decouple mode toggle
> Hat UP: zoom in
> Hat DOWN: zoom out
> Three of the left side base buttons are the landing keys
> Two of the left side base buttons are Q-drive system and Q-drive engage
> And Match Target Speed is the last base button on the left
> * I have nothing bound to the six buttons on the right side of the base, yet
>
>  
>
> My two requirements and goals when I set this up when AC first came out was:
>
> 1. To have fine control over throttle on the Y-axis WITH reverse but to also be able to set the throttle using the throttle lever on the T16000M for longer flights without having to hold the T16000M forward to maintain velocity. For example, if I let go of the T16000M, my thrust will be 0. If I set the throttle lever to 75% and don't touch the Y-axis, my ship will maintain the 75% thrust/velocity. As soon as I touch the Y-axis, I again have fine control over thrust.
> 2. To be able to fly with only the main hand (CH Fighterstick) when fine throttle control was not necessary. I try to have all my main controls that I need on the Fighterstick with the extras on the t16000M. Combine that with some key VA commands and it works well in AC.
>
> I think the greatest drawback my setup has is that vertical strafing is not intuitive or easy (since it is bound to a hat on the Fighterstick). But, the throttle was the the key part of my setup and I wanted it on the Y-axis of the T16000M. I do not have pedals or any other peripherals.
I vote a T300 if you can find a decent used one.
Edit: Actually the T300RS GT is on sale right now on Amazon.
The wheel you listed is arguably less than entry-level, as it doesn’t have force feedback and that’s arguably one of the most important parts of any serious sim racing wheel.
Since your budget’s $150 i’d suggest the Thrustmaster T150, decent, fairly small but it’s got FFB and is a solid jumping in point to the sim racing hobby/market.
Link to t300 alcantara, (Deal of the year right here)
https://smile.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-Ferrari-Alcantara-Racing-Wheel/dp/B015KJ0SES/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480328060&sr=8-1&keywords=t300+alcantara
Get a Thrustmaster wheel over the Logitech wheels. The technology in the Thrustmaster wheels is far far superior to the notchy gear drive of the Logitech. I suggest getting the following
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015KJ0SES/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_3?pf_rd_p=1944687622&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B004J6KRD6&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0ET5925JQKKMT3HMJ4TA
You get a full size rim (logitech uses a very small unrealistic rim size.) You can also add a shifter if you prefer that.
http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Add-On-Gearbox-Shifter-4060059-videgame/dp/B005L0Z2BQ/ref=pd_bxgy_63_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1ZJ22XYZZ13QGCVHA7HB
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-playstation-4/dp/B00O8B7D02/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519448893&sr=8-1&keywords=T300rs
Standard T300. Count the pedals.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T150-PRO-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B06XP1JZ53/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519448965&sr=8-1&keywords=T150+pro
T150 pro. Count the pedals.
The 150 pro has more. Because it comes with the T3PA pedals while the standard t300 doesn't, which makes it a fantastic deal as a starter setup, precisely because you can just upgrade the wheel later and keep the pedals
Non-referral link here.
Thrust master T1600M https://www.amazon.com/ThrustMaster-2960773-Thrustmaster-T16000M-FCS/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1O0SQ58FWIO3J&keywords=thrustmaster+t16000m&qid=1564523941&s=gateway&sprefix=Thrust%2Caps%2C164&sr=8-4 its what I use for my flying sims & aviation games.
I have a Logitech G29, the clamps work really well for a table. The only thing you have to make sure is that the table is sturdy enough, if it's too light, it will move a lot, and the vibrations are going to be a PIA. Also: if you don't have carpet, your pedals are going to move a lot.
I used to have it on an old table that was really fragile so I bought this stand and it works great, the best thing is that it folds, so, once you are done racing, you just fold it and put it away.
EDIT: I didn't read the word "foldable" in your comment so I just gave you a redundant opinion. Sorry.
Thrustmaster TWCS is cheap and good value, has a button layout that works decently for the F/A-18.
Thrustmaster Warthog is also available separately, and obviously works great for the A-10C, and also more than decently for other aircraft or space sims. I particularly like that it has latching toggle switches.
Otherwise it is Virpil or waiting for the unreleased VKB TECS.
If I were you I'd throw $70 more and go for the alcantara edition for far better pedals with clutch and a wider rim: http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-Alcantara-Racing-playstation-4/dp/B015KJ0SES
World:
War Thunder is free on Steam
DCS World is free on Steam (ridiculously priced DLC).
Coming soon: IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Stalingrad([more info] (http://themittani.com/features/il2-battle-stalingrad-preview))
Space:
Coming soon: Star Citizen
Coming soon: EVE Valkyrie
Elite: Dangerous
Joysticks: Link
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Less expensive than the Warhog, but better (supports upgrades) more info on the Black Mamba.
What system you play on is beside the point. Let's see what we can plan out for you.
I'm basing this off of your other comment's projected budget, $500 - $1000.
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First and foremost, your wheel and pedals. Whether you start with your cockpit/wheelstand or wheel is mostly up to preference, but I'd start with a wheel first, since a wheel clamped to a desk with pedals on a floor is the minimum of simracing, whilst a rig with no wheel is just a glorified gaming seat. Plus, what you get first sets the budget of what comes after it, and I wouldn't prioritize an expensive rig over a good wheel.
Anyway, where you go from here pretty much depends on how much you're looking to spend. If your budget is $500 - $1000 and you're looking to get a whole setup going, I'd keep the wheel+pedal spending to $500 or less. This will leave you with a decent amount of wiggle room for rigs and accessories. All of the suggested wheels are compatible with Xbox One.
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Wheels and Pedals
A budget wheel if there ever was one. It's by no means a bad wheel, for $200. It has reasonably strong FFB and similar build to its more expensive counterpart, the TX. Though with a brushed motor and belt-gear hybrid system, it's not as strong nor as smooth as the TX. As someone who's tried its PlayStation counterpart (the T150, basically the same base with a slightly different rim), I'd say it's 75% the quality for 50% the price. If you're on a strict budget and know you'll be on one for a while, it's a pretty good deal.
^(NOTE: As of writing this, it's currently on sale for $160!)
If you're planning to drive with an H-gate shifter in the future, then this version of the TMX is a good deal. Instead of the standard 2-pedal Thrustmaster set, it comes with Thrustmater's T3PA Pedals. On top of getting a clutch pedal, it includes a conical brake mod, designed to give more tension to your brake pedal and allow you to better control braking. Plus, in just about any wheel-supported Xbox One game you can map the brake to the clutch and put the conical brake mod behind it, giving your legs more room if you're not using an H-gate shifter. Though if you know you never want to use an H-gate, it might be better value to just get the standard TMX and use a DIY solution for modding the brake.
In case you're wondering, yes, it comes with Ferrari branding as standard. Anyway, this is arguably the best bang-for-your-buck. TX TX's rim is interchangeable, so if you're not a fan of the stock one, you can replace it with another Thrustmaster rim of your choosing. On top of that, its belt-driven FFB system is a bit stronger and considerably smoother than the TMX, not to mention that it's hard mountable (is able to be screwed-in to a rig instead of needing a clamp). While some get the TMX as a starter wheel and upgrade later, this wheel is often people's one-stop for sim racing, since it's just that good.
^(NOTE: You really picked the best time to get into sim racing, this wheel is only $257 as of writing this! $400 is a decent price for this wheel but the current price is an absolute steal.)
Similarly to the TMX, this is Thrustmaster's step-up version of the wheel; not only does it include a special black version of the T3PA pedals, it also includes a much better rim. While its style is more akin to the TMX, its rim is made from a metal frame, making it feel more solid than the TMX and standard TX plastic rims, and is wrapped in a nice leather instead of rubber. For only $67 more than the standard TX, it's a significant savings over buying the parts separately.
This is the premium class of wheels, for the most part. Fanatec's hardware is generally only built from the best of materials and offer some of the best performance, along with being open to Fanatec's wider, more advanced selection of parts and accessories. However, unlike most wheel bases, this is only the wheel base, no rim or pedals included. If you want Fanatec's base CSL offerings for a rim and pedals, the price jumps to about $470, the same price as the TX, but that's only with two pedals. If you want their 3-pedal base instead, the price jumps up to $590, and if you want a GT style rim instead, you're already over $600 with the 2-pedal set, $700 with the 3-pedal set. Fanatec's gear is top-quality, but it comes at a price. Is the bit of extra quality worth the prices that the parts quickly add up to? That's subjective. At the very least, I wouldn't recommend Fanatec Gear if you're on a budget, but maybe consider it for the future.
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Rigs and More
There are some Xbox One wheels for you to consider. I hope my explanations made sense, I wanted to make sure to convey the different aspects of each wheel so you could better make a decision.
If you want my personal recommendation though, I'd say the TX, especially since it's on sale. $250 for that base is a great price, it's a near-perfect balance of budget with performance.
Next on the list, a rig. If we're assuming that you're willing to reach towards the upper-end of your budget, then continuing here after you get your wheel is a no-brainer. Having a dedicated place to secure your wheel and mount your pedals makes for a far better experience than sitting at a table, especially if you're playing in front of a TV.
Keep in mind that there are two types of rigs, wheel stands and cockpits. Wheelstands are only meant to mount your wheel and pedals, where you sit is up to you. They're designed to be foldable and easy to carry, making them perfect for playing in front of the living room TV or using in a small apartment. Dedicated cockpits take things to the next level, securing your seat to the wheel and pedals means that you won't have to worry about anything sliding around, and makes things more comfortable overall.
As much as I want to continue though, there are many, many great options to choose from and reddit has a length limit on comments. For more information on building your rig, you can check out the r/Simracing Buyer's Guide in the wiki. It includes everything wheels and rigs to accessories and monitor mounts.
Cheers, and let me know if you have any questions.
Waiting on the T3PA pedals to come in stock.
http://www.amazon.com/T3PA-Wide-Pedal-Set-xbox-one/dp/B00KX75W9O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422568311&sr=8-1&keywords=t3pa+pedal
Are you on PC? Is the Thrustmaster T150 (PC and PS4) or Thrustmaster TMX (PC and Xbox one) too expensive? This is as budget as I'd go if you want brand new. The downside is you only get two pedals but do have paddle shifters. If this is too pricy try searching craigslist around your area for any used Logitech Driving Force GT's (two pedals, no h-shifter, but has a sequential shifter), or a Logitech g27 (three pedals, comes with h-shifter).
If you do want three pedals and an h-shifter, then I think the Logitech g29 (PC and PS4) or Logitech g920 (PC and Xbox one) are the current best value as far as brand new. With craigslist you can possibly find better deals locally, but it can be a crapshoot.
Options I recommend:
Moving up, there's the Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS. This is the above T16000M stick along with Thrustmaster's new TWCS throttle. Totalling them up, you get 19 buttons, two 8-way hats, two 4-way hats, a two-way switch, an analog stick, throttle slider, rudder rocker, and an analog dial, which is plenty of room for all the stuff you need (note that the throttle has no detent, so you'll probably want to run it forward only with a button assigned to reverse). This is what I personally use and I quite like it. Note that all the components of this set are available separately and can function independently (each needs its own USB port, so you might want to buy a hub with these). So you could buy the stick today and the throttle next month. Or buy the throttle and some other stick or buy two sticks, or whatever. There's also a set of pedals available if that's your jam.
As for the money making, there are basically 3 options.
I didn't realize how much more difficulty hover mode adds to keyboard and mouse as opposed to a flight stick until I tried it recently. The Thrustmaster T16000M FCS is a good all purpose joystick at a decent cost, available on Amazon and elsewhere.
The Thrustmaster 16000M, either by itself, as a hotas, or as a hosas is regarded as a good entry level stick by many.
edit: best way to make credits in-game by far is mining, either surface mining for painite or core mining for void opals. Easily 100m/hr or more if you know what you're doing, and/or follow one of the many guides on youtube. I can't personally advise though as I've been actively avoiding it. I don't want to be rich so quick I have no idea what to do with it.
Thrustmaster T16000M FCS Joystick if you're REALLY pressed for space. Otherwise, I wouldn't hesitate to buy the Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS Controller, which includes the HOTAS half of the setup. I think it's easily the best setup for the money.
edit: fixed the first link.
Buy two Thrustmaster T16000 Joysticks, they go on sale on Amazon in 3 days for $59. I just ordered two. Cheers
Great budget sticks for dual-stick setup. Best price they've ever been on Amazon:
https://camelcamelcamel.com/Thrustmaster-T16000M-FCS-Joystick-Black/product/B01MQEDEEW
That looks like a Logitech G920. In which case ~$250 depending if you have the shifter included. I'm currently looking into wheels -- this and the Thrustmaster TMX Pro seem like the best "budget" wheels. I'm leaning more towards the TMX Pro though, fyi.
we must know!
this one?: https://www.amazon.com/Wheel-Stand-Pro-Thrustmaster-throttles/dp/B01NAN0SF3/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1523134181&sr=1-6&keywords=flight+stand
the 100% wife friendly solution:
https://www.amazon.com/Warthog-Thrustmaster-WARTHOGTM-keyboard-throttles-included/dp/B01NAN0SF3/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1496625142&sr=8-10&keywords=wheelstand+pro
Logitech G29 - good value for money, tried and tested tech but it is a bit old being gear driven and can be a bit ratchety compared to a belt driven wheel if you care about these minor things. Pedals included are good especially at the G29 price point. Basically you can't go wrong here.
Thrustmaster T300 with standard pedals
T300RS with T3PA pedals - A bit more expensive than the logitech G29 and Thrustmaster have their fair share of horror stories regarding product defects but over all it's a solid wheel base for the majority. The T300 wheel base is a good wheel of choice for sim racing as It's belt driven so the steering is somewhat smoother and you have the modular steering rim option, just make sure to get a T300 package that comes with the T3PA or T3PA pro pedals. There's also the T150 which is a great starter wheel if you want a cheaper option than the T300 but you won't be able to take advantage of Thrustmasters modular wheel system in future and again, the standard pedals included aren't great.
Fanatec CSL Elite - Not wanting to leave the most expensive "starter" wheel base option out... The Fanatec CSL Elite wheel base for the PS4 will come close to blowing your budget of $500 and doesn't include pedals but it's another option on the table if you are interested in splashing the cash :).
I recommend to check ebay and any other buy/sell websites that you know if you're happy to buy used in case anyone who bought a nice sim rig or wheel and didn't like sim racing as much as they thought and are selling good kit for cheap. Happens more than you'd think!
Hopefully this helps somewhat and you can stay below that $500 mark.
From what I've seen/read, the Thrustmaster TS-PC is overpriced by $100 or so at the moment.
For c. $1000 I'd probaby get:
Thrustmaster T300RS
ProtoSimTech PT-1 Pedals
Thrustmaster TH8A Shifter
But you say you don't want a T300 (I've got one, it's amazing) so... I guess the nearest alternative would probably be the Fanatec CSL Elite, but I've got no experience with it, so someone else would have to chime in.
For me, if not going for the T300, I'd probably want to jump up to either the Fanatec CSW V2 or an AccuForce (or more likely an OSW).
LOL, you say it as if Thrustmaster isn't in the same boat.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/poll-thrustmaster-t300rs-gte-reliability-poll.329969/page-3
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-playstation-4/product-reviews/B00O8B7D02 (note: even the 3+ star reviews often are deducting points for reliability reasons)
This sucks. The G27 was (is?) great with only the wheel encoder wheel ever really being a problem, which has a permanent fix available (albeit requires decent technician skills to fully disassemble the wheel to get to it and then put it all back together properly).
Now, it seems both the G29 and Thrustmaster 300 wheels have atrocious reliability and durability and it's not even narrowed down to just one issue.
I guess I'll have to pray my G27 makes it through to the next generation of wheels where they finally get this shit sorted and make a decent wheel.
I still don't get why everyone complains about the gear drive vs. the belts in the G29, real cars have similar gears in the rack and pinion, nobody's car steers off of a belt. I don't know where people get the idea that gears are somehow a dated mechanism, timing belts were perfectly available when the first FFB wheels were created, they just weren't chosen. In fact, the reason you don't see gears in other wheels is because Logitech has a patent. When other wheels claim their mechanism is superior to gears, they're throwing you a sales pitch because they're not allowed to use gears. IMO, the Logitech FFB feels great, but much is left to the owner to set it up right for each game as developers are notoriously lazy when it comes to optimizing wheel settings.
> It may be too expensive for me. Since the VPC stick (with base) is 315 US Dollars, I'd expect the throttle to scale to that.
But you don't want a "high end throttle"?
Usually this don't cost cheap, the most affordable (and unique available) in that "category" is:
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Hotas-Warthog-Throttles-Control/dp/B00T5X3Z2S
Or this custom made - more oriented for propeller planes - cost 350 Euros.
https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/28738-metal-throttle-consoles/
Who make cheap throttle (well, at least cheap made) is Saitek - but don't sell then standalone. :))
Or Thrustmaster TWCS.
BTW - VIrPil throttle early renders, final layout not all defined yet.
http://i.imgur.com/EugP5hh.jpg
I recently bought a new ThrustMaster T150 at Amazon.com for $188.20 (US) (plus tax) to play on PC (it's also compatible with PS3 & PS4). I've played Project CARS & Assetto Corsa with it. It has paddle shifters (no clutch). For the price (compared to other options), I'm happy with the T150 so far. Better wheels cost more (new) than I want to spend.
I think the T150 might be the least expensive (new, not used) wheel that has force feedback. I haven't seen any bad reviews for it - the only "complaints" I've seen are just related to the fact that it's a budget wheel & so it doesn't have the deluxe features or feel that more expensive wheels have (but that's to be expected at the T150's price).
...At the moment, it looks like Amazon has the T150 available for $169.99 (US).
Logitech G29-about 300$, might be able to find it on sale somewhere. Pretty solid unit.
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Driving-Force-Racing-PlayStation/dp/B00Z0UWWYC
Thrustmaster T150-about 200$, entry level, you will probably want to upgrade the peddles later for another 100-150$.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B014US02ZA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1491247791&sr=1-1&keywords=thrustmaster+t150
I have been looking at a wheel by Thrustmaster, Its called the T150, it has 1080 degrees of rotation and pretty nice force feedback from what i am hearing. I would give that a look. Only $196 on amazon. I would give this one a look. This will work for PC and PS3 and PS4 also. http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1451334141&sr=8-1&keywords=t150
One of these days, when I find the spare cash and the space, I'll buy the T300 Alcantara and a shifter...
If you're willing to wait, I'm pretty sure they drop to $300 somewhat often. I bought my Thrustmaster TX Leather for $300 a few months ago from Amazon, and it's normally $470, too. The shifter was only $130.
If you do get a wheel though, the Wheelstand Pro is so worth it if you're not planning on building some kind of big setup for it.
If your budget is sufficiently flexible:
I think the T300 Alcantara is the best bang for your buck near that price range.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-Ferrari-Alcantara-Racing-Wheel/dp/B015KJ0SES/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1497120210&sr=1-3&keywords=t300&th=1
There is a big jump in performance once you upgrade to T300 level. Fanatec and the newer Thrustmaster wheels will perform better, but not in a radically different way. You won't get qualitatively better performance (to my knowledge) unless you spend upwards of 1000 on a direct drive wheel.
The Alcantara wheel has an amazing feel and size for the price. The pedals are also decent, and the most of the more expensive wheels (newer thrustmaster, fanatec, direct drive) don't come with pedals.
Depending on your budget, you may want to put off buying the shifter for later. I don't think I have a shifter recommendation, since I think that depends on your preferences. Eg, Sturdiness, ease of mode switching, shorter throw (clubsport) Longer throw, handbrake option (th8a)
Entirely depends on your budget - but at the very least something with Force Feedback, like the Logitech g29 with shifter - that's a very common setup. $200-450 is the figure you'd be looking at - depending on if what you want is on sale. A bit cheaper if you don't want a shifter and want to use the paddle shifters behind the wheels.
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G29-Driving-Shifter-Bundle/dp/B016JBE8LU $299
I chose one a little higher priced, the Thrustmaster T300RS GT edition (3 pedal setup not the cheaper 2 pedal one without the clutch) as well as the TH8A shifter. I got the wheel on sale, full price on shifter. https://i.imgur.com/Y8Gg5oO.jpg
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL?th=1 $388 + https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-PC-PS3-PS4-Xbox-One/dp/B005L0Z2BQ $149
These wheels are much more than toys. You can feel the wheels on the road, traction loss, how much torque the cars have, if you slam into a wall the wheels can damn near rip your hands off (you can change the % of feedback to lower it). It makes the experience in VR feel super real. I'd say a wheel carries as much importance in VR racing as the headset does.
The craziest feeling I've gotten so far as just sitting at the start of a race idling in a '66 Mustang. The entire hood of this car is shaking back and forth like Dom's muscle cars in Fast and the Furious.....and the WHEEL is shaking left and right with the car exactly how you would expect something with that much power to. That thing was like 100% torque and it felt amazing.
Even if it takes some saving, I highly recommend one of them - although I would definitely wait until Black Friday to get $100 ish off of either one you choose. The sale prices for these are quite tolerable when they occur.
A stand for the wheel is much nicer than a table for mounting, but they can be pricey as well. From $100 and up. My Apiga AP2 stand was $280 but worth every penny to not have a bar in between your legs. Only $240 now and supports most wheels. https://www.amazon.com/APIGA-Foldable-Racing-Simulator-gearshift-ALL/dp/B00XBPYUIY
check out the sim raceway srw-s1, its a handheld wheel using accelerometers and magic for input, rather than a motor drive. so no force feedback. it can be mounted to a wheel base though. it has throttle and brake levers on the back of the unit.
https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Simraceway-SRW-S1-Gaming-Steering/dp/B006IR6NH8
That's all you need for a flight/space sim. Not everyone is who is interested in flight sims is also going to be interested in driving sims, so trying to group them together as being the same cost is disingenuous.
But if you wanted to go on the racing sim side of things, you could get a wheel and pedals for $70, which is still far short of $300 even if you bought both.
Keep in mind, you don't need any of that. There are people that not only get by with a 360 controller, but prefer such. You can also spend way more than $300 if you've the inclination, but trying to put enthusiast pricing as the baseline is a pretty poor way to make a point.
In all seriousness though. A steering wheel and foot pedals are the way to go. Use the steering wheel for left/right torso twist and a mouse. You can torso twist way faster with the steering wheel than with mouse alone. Spreading the damage faster than your enemy. I recommend this one: https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-Racing-Wheel-Legend-PlayStation/dp/B00FB5R1AQ
It spins faster than the others on the market in that price bracket and is endorsed by Ferrari.
best of luck. I've been using my Ferrari for awhile now and I know for sure I get mad torso twists because of it. Totally worth the money.
Can anyone suggest a wheel combo? I've seen http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_2&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER suggested a lot, anyone have it?
T300 Alcantara Bundle is the wheel to get. Its good all around, good base, good wheel and also pretty good pedals. Should be everything you need to get you started.
The T300 is the succesor to the T500 and its a better base in virtually everything.
iRacing is the place to go for public online simracing. Its expensive, but has a good penalty system that forces clean racing. It's good competition.
Alternatively you can also look for a league and race with them in any game really. Most serious simracing with fair opponents and no ramming etc is done in leagues or iRacing. It's not impossible to find good racing publicly in games, but often it has some rammers or the like.
There are many leagues out there, personally I race with Racedepartment but there are many more groups around.
Best game on how to learn is a difficult one, any game can do really ,the fundamentals of driving fast (and safe) are the same both in real life as well as in any simracing game.
I'd recommend watching this video on racing fundamentals, it covers everything to get you started. Don't expect to be the new Max Verstappen in just a few hours though :)
Not sure if the price changed but that shows $399 whle the T300 Alcantara is only $300 now and also comes with T3PA's. I might need to upgrade from my DFGT finally... tempting!
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-Ferrari-Alcantara-Racing-Wheel/dp/B015KJ0SES/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480382258&sr=8-1&keywords=t300+alcantara
Cheap, or expensive, is relative. What budget do you have to work with? Basically, I would say in total for the rig, around $700-800 can get you something pretty decent, then you're looking for the actual console/PC and the games themselves as an additional price.
For a fairly cheap, but still best bang-for-buck rig, I would recommend:
All in all this comes down to $885 as of right now, if you want to save a little bit you could go for the original T300 GT Edition instead and it'll be $817.
The Simetik K2 is by far the best rig you can get in that pricebracket, but if you must save some more either skip the shifter for now or get a Playseat Challenge, it isn't the sturdiest but again, I do not recommend getting a rig with the pole in between your legs, I would personally rather play at a desk and an office chair than that, as it, at least for me, makes it really hard to heel-and-toe, and I love racing old DTM and GT cars with manual gearboxes and couldn't do without that.
T300RS GT is right at that price and comes with 3 pedals.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1488320317&sr=8-1&keywords=t300rs+gt
You can also look at T150 Pro or TMX Pro which are around $250 with the same pedals.
T300 with T3PA set included...
little bit of a wait I guess,
but seems like a good deal
Okay, sure.
Duo Set - https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-16000M-SPACE-SIM-DUO-STICK/dp/B076XKZML8
Single Stick- https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-2960773-T16000M-Joystick-Black/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_63_t_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=V057ET75WNB4K45T8ZXJ
Get the tmx pro with the better pedals and conical brake mod. On sale today for over 100.00 off!! https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-VG-TMX-PRO-Racing-Wheel/dp/B01N9K9N33?th=1
Mine showed for $159 at Walmart. I put in for a price match at Amazon this morning and it looks like they already dropped the price.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T150-PRO-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B06XP1JZ53/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519489426&sr=8-1&keywords=thrustmaster%2Bt150%2Bpro&th=1
Yes, F1 2019 is perfectly fine for beginners as it's the perfect combination of Sim and Arcade game.
If you can afford it, pick up the Thrustmaster T150. It's a perfect beginner wheel and has everything you need such as pretty decent FFB and paddle shifters. I used it myself for a while and I'll always stand by it.
A couple of things to keep in mind about budget wheels like the one you linked, based on my experience:
- no force feedback, which is a bummer.
- very limited rotation (this one rotates 90` either side, while a good wheel rotates at least 270` or more) - this affects gameplay a lot as your handling is going to be very twitchy - important if you're going to be playing a sim racer.
- steering isn't smooth and rotation-resistance can be a pain, literally.
You can really go ahead and get it if you want to, it'll be fun and more immersive than using a controller. It should be fine for NFS, Forza Horizon, or even F1.
However, I wouldn't recommend it for any proper racing sim such as Project Cars, AC, GT, or even FM7 due to the precision required in those games. If you really want a wheel setup, I'd suggest saving up and getting something like the Thrustmaster T150 PRO which usually goes on sale for around 13.5k INR because it has almost all the best features of a proper racing wheel. Or consider getting a good controller - I use an Xbox One controller for Forza, F1 and it is good enough and more precise than an entry level wheel.
There's a good deal on the Thrustmaster T300 RS GT on Amazon atm, not sure if that helps you based on the euros.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M1L2NRL?th=1
The top-end Thrustmaster bases are perfectly comparable to the CSL, everyone in this thread seems to be thinking of the TS-PC / T-GT / TS-XW as equivalent to the T300 which just isn't at all true.
Pedal wise it's trickier as Thrustmaster don't offer a loadcell (though plenty of people would argue the T3PA brake mod makes that fairly superfluous, it's a pretty subjective thing and a lot of the time it's post-purchase rationalisation either way) - but you can always use Fanatec's pedals with Thrustmaster's base.
Just for the sake of (much) cheaper rims I'd personally go for a TS-PC instead of the CSL, even if I was using the Fanatec pedals. I'd either go for the TS-PC and add the 599XX or Sparco r383 rim, or the TS-XW by itself (though Thrustmaster are a bit weird with selling that one with the T3PAs) and then get the Fanatec CSL pedals.
That should be within your budget roughly
TS-PC Racer: $450
TM Sparco R383: $200
CSL Elite LC: $200
Or alternatively you could look at the 488 Challenge wheel which just came out which is a 9:10 scale replica (32cm diameter compared to the standard T300's 28cm) on the TS base, which oculd be very nice (but bumps up the price a decent amount - if you wanted a formula rim you'd probably have to get the Ferrari F1 which is a bit plasticky compared to the rest)
Edit: The caveat here is that if you think you might end up moving up to a Clubsport wheelbase there might be a reason to start investing in the Fanatec ecosystem regarding rims etc. but you're well into diminishing returns at this point and there's every chance that Thrustmaster keep on bringing out higher end wheels given their current trends with the 488 Challenge/TS-XW/T-GT etc.
https://www.amazon.com/ThrustMaster-2969099-Thrustmaster-TS-PC-Racer/dp/B01MQDQA3U/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1BOAMWPOPSUX1&keywords=thrustmaster%2Bts-pc&qid=1574694712&sprefix=thrustmaster%2Bts%2Caps%2C1061&sr=8-1&th=1
17% off
so TBH all I have is a right handed stick that I use in my left hand. Its rather uncomfortable, but let me tell you I fly a million times better. One day I'll get myself a T16000m to fly with. That will be the day. Ambidextrous joysticks are rather uncommon, unfortunately.
Ultimately, it's going to be a matter of taste. What sounds like the most fun to you? That's the question I asked myself a few years ago when the original Arena Commander module released. I decided the answer to that was dual stick, so I got myself a cheap left handed joystick and tried it. Turns out I love it! If immersion is what you're looking for, joysticks certainly deliver, at least in my experience. But I've been playing with joysticks for two decades now so I'm familiar with adjusting to odd control schemes. You may not want to invest that time, effort, and money.
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If you do decide to try it out, however, there are a lot of cheap options that will give you a taste of what you're looking for without breaking the bank. I used the Extreme 3D pro joystick before upgrading recently, and it was a good option for only $30. Link HERE. There's also the T16000M which is fully ambidextrous for $60. I used it to test dual stick flight. Link HERE. And you may find them cheaper used. You can always upgrade later if it turns out you really like the setup, which is what I did.
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If all you want to do is run cargo and explore, though, any options will be fine. If you think you'll be happy with mouse and keyboard, don't sweat it! I like decoupled flight and combat so having that additional control over my thrusters is nice and immersive, but that's my situation, not yours.
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Again, ask yourself honestly what sounds like fun and go from there. If mouse and keyboard seems sufficient to you, there's no point in spending money. No amount of advice from other people can top that.
Amazon (US) has both the flight stick and flight pack on sale. Not sure if they'll go any lower.-
Flightstick: $40, down from $60
Flightstick + Throttle: $97, down from $107
Flight pack: $130, down from $160
Thrustmaster T16000M. Replaced my old logitech 3d pro which was a workhorse for many years for me and prob the majority of this community. But was floored with the level of precision and ergonomics of the Thrustmaster. Its because it has hall effect sensors rather then pententiometers which alot of the old flight hardware tends to have. I got the whole package with throttle and pedals and never looked back. Tons of programmable buttons too! Prob the best stick you can get in the sub $100 price category.
Thrustmaster T16000M FCS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_IWXxCbJ1V06FB
FYI T16000m sticks are on sale for $39 at Amazon
And for those in Canada- it’s cheaper still than buying from Amazon.ca even with shipping and currency exchange, and there is a 1 per limit cap on the current sale.
Source- just bought two, shipping north of the border.
There aren't a lot of cheap HOTAS options. Some things to consider:
The Extreme 3D Pro is a very entry-level stick. It will get the job done, but you need to know that you'll be replacing it in a couple years or less if you use it heavily. It's plastic-on-plastic and wears pretty fast, and it's not got the greatest precision to begin with.
The T16000M is a better entry-level stick, being both more precise and better able to stand up to wear over time.
If you can convince your dad to spring for something slightly more expensive, the T16000M HOTAS package gives you a throttle to use as well, and would mean that you could set up to acquire an affordable sim package over the next year by using facetrackNOIR or other webcam-based head tracking, plus saving up for a set of rudder pedals.
Thanks dude, it is the Super Warthog Wheel Stand Pro -- I just removed the right RSG when I got it.
https://www.amazon.com/Wheel-Thrustmaster-keyboard-throttles-included/dp/B01NAN0SF3
Also, I ordered the $40 joystick adapter so it's the small adapter for the stick rather than having the plate mounted.
It is stand alone and folds down to store away if needed, not attached to the chair at all.
I was just going off of Amazon prices when I made my post. To get the T150 with the T3PA pedals you're going to be spending $319, https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Feedback-3-Pedal-Progressive-Resistance-PlayStation/dp/B06XP1JZ53/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1500501698&sr=1-2&keywords=t150+pro . Although after your comment I looked it up and Gamestop does appear to be selling T150 Pro sets for $250. http://www.gamestop.com/accessories/thrustmaster-t150-pro-limited-edition-racing-wheel-only-at-gamestop/131351
For the g29 you're going to be spending $265. https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Driving-Force-Racing-PlayStation/dp/B00Z0UWWYC/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1500501761&sr=1-1&keywords=g29
So in that case it just comes down to whichever wheel you prefer. People say the T150 has better feel, I've never used one so I honestly don't know. But I know Logitech has a better reputation when it comes to their wheel's longevity, and their warranty is good for an extra year over the Thrustmaster (once again, if you live in the EU though you're going to be getting a 2 year warranty on both because of their consumer protection laws.) I live in the US though and the 2 year warranty is what really made me go from wanting to buy the T150, to actually buying the g29. If I'm spending that much money on something I want to make sure that it lasts for as long as possible, and the warranty makes sure that at the very least least I'm getting 2 years of trouble free usage out of it. And for real, the g29 really does feel good, I mean the g25/27 was the standard wheel for enthusiasts for years. The technology may be old, but it's tried and tested, and it works well, just not as well as a belt system.
The Simraceway SRW-S1 wheel uses analog paddle shifters that you can use for the throttle and the brake.
I use my TWCS with a Warthog and T.Flight Rudder pedals. It's a fabulous combo, and works great.
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https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-HOTAS-Warthog-Flight-Stick/dp/B00CBVHJ00/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=warthog+joystick&link_code=qs&qid=1561977857&s=gateway&sourceid=Mozilla-search&sr=8-1
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$201 out the door for the stick...
Has anyone used the Thrustmaster VG racing wheel? Curious as to how well it works as a cheap wheel, I'm not really wanting to spend $300 on one. (Linking isn't working for me for some reason)
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-VG-Ferrari-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B00FB5R1AQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1466958509&sr=8-2&keywords=pc+wheel
Your best bet is the thrustmaster t3pa pedals with a thrustmaster to USB adapter (not included)
I also found used Logitech ones
If you want to buy once and never again, Fanatec is probably your best bet but it comes at a price.
ClubSport V2.5 Wheel Base is my recommendation for wheel base, check out the steering wheels you like and pick one, this is more preference. This base should basically last you forever, DD wheelbases are highly over-rated in my book.
ClubSport Pedale V3 because they come with the load-cell upgrade already and this is probably the most important upgrade if you take sim racing seriously, it greatly helps with your braking being more consistent.
If else, check out the setup I use. I honestly love it and I don't really see myself upgrading anytime soon. I plan on getting a new setup maybe next year and I'll most likely buy what I posted above if they are still available at the time.
Thrustmaster T300 RS GT and T3PA Pedals
[Thrustmaster](https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-racing-wheel-WINDOWS/dp/B01CI97DNM/ref=sr_1_4?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1537753451&sr=1-4&keywords=thrustmaster+steering+wheel+pc&dpID=51bn3uOuWAL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
) on amazon is $160. It comes with pedals. But honestly after a month I upgraded to much better pedals and then bought a shifter ended up costing me over $400 by the end of it all lol. You can get away with just the wheel and default pedals though.
TX458
Thrustmaster T3PA
Looks like you can get both shipped from Amazon new for around $400-$450. Unless I'm missing something, that's not around $800.
I use dual T.16000m's for my setup and have been heavily considering getting some pedals to complete it. I cannot afford anything crazy like MFG Crosswinds. I'd like to spend a max of $100 on pedals, if possible.
Would a Thrustmaster T3PA be a good option for the game and would it function well enough in a Space Sim environment?
Or should I wait and see if the CH Pro Pedals come down in price a little bit more?
This isn't true?
You can buy the standalone throttle (or the standalone stick) from loads of places.
Direct from Thrustmaster:
http://shop.thrustmaster.com/en_gb/pc/joysticks/hotas-warthogtm-dual-throttle.html
Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Hotas-Warthog-Throttles-Control-Pc/dp/B00T5X3Z2S
The 3 pedal is the best part of these wheels, and a lot of people continue to use them even after upgrading to Fanatec/TT. The Logitech shifter is sold separately now, and imo it's not worth the $60 they charge for it--save up for better quality. G25/27 wheels used to be a great value because they included 3 pedals + shifter for around $250-300 in an era when higher tier belt drive Thrustmaster wheels were around $500 just for the wheel and pedals.
A good shifter is going to cost you 100-150, so will a good set of pedals. But you should own a basic wheel like the TT TX for a few months to decide if you use it enough to warrant investing in higher end pedals/shifter. A lot of people buy these things and they just end up sitting in a closet being used a few times a year (if that).
Thrustmaster T150 + Thrustmaster TH8A is the closest you're gonna get. It also gets you into the Thrustmaster ecosystem, which is great for when you potentially look for more upgrades in the future, such as a new wheel base of pedals.
Can easily do it for around $200, but you'll be wanting to be spending at least that much on individual components by year end. This rabbit hole is a dark, and very very deep one ;)
Thrustmaster T150 for ~$150
G29 for ~$200
TMX by itself for ~$180 but you need to buy pedals/shifter by itself
Hyperkin silicon gel controller and headset covers.
Hyperkin lens covers.
Seinheisser HD 598 SE headphones.
Leap Motion
Wooden HMD Stand
Wii Controller Straps
EDIT (Few more):
Overhead Cable Suspension Solution
Acoustic Wall Foam
Floor Mat
Racing Wheel
Subpac
The TM T150 is [$129 on amazon]
(https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014US02ZA?ref_=sr_1_8&s=videogames&qid=1480000547&sr=1-8&keywords=g29&pldnSite=1)
Hello OP!
From your post and comments, I've gathered that you only need 2 pedals, don't need an H-pattern shifter, and play on the Xbox platform.
Assuming you need your wheel + pedals shipped for $500 AUS, (that's $358 USD, plus shipping costs more for Australia), you actually don't have too many options at all.
If I were to rank all available racing wheels right now, the cheapest level would be the ones without force-feedback. This would include Thrustmaster's T80 and Ferrari 458 Spider Racing Wheel, as well as the Hori Apex. All of these wheels are complete shit, not to sound harsh.
LEVEL 1
The first level of wheels that are good are the ones with gear driven or gear/belt hybrid force feedback. This means that when motors turn the wheel to provide information about traction or oversteer (examples), it may feel "notchy" and loud. They still get the job done. When only listing ones compatible with the Xbox One, these include:
Logitech G29 ($400 AUS + free shipping) - has 3 pedals and comfortable grip, but very bad gear-driven force-feedback
Thrustmaster TMX ($240.83 AUS + $90.13 shipping = $320 AUS) - has 2 pedals, which you say is O.K. Has better force-feedback with a hybrid belt drive/gear driven combo. It is cheaper than Logitech because Logitech is so popular. Do not be fooled, this is an objectively better wheel in almost every way.
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LEVEL 2
The second level of wheels are the ones that are only belt-driven. These are much smoother quieter, and detailed than Level 1 wheels. When only listing ones compatible with the Xbox One, there is only one wheel base:
Thrustmaster TX Servo Base ($358.41 AUS + $58.30 shipping = $416 AUS)
However, the TX allows switching of wheel rims. You can buy the base by itself (above) and need to buy an individual wheel rim, or you can buy it in a set with pedals and a rim. The only option here seems to be getting a set, since buying the individual parts would be too costly. You've got two options here for a bundle:
Thrustmaster TX Racing Wheel Ferrari 458 Italia Edition ($559 AUS + free shipping)
Thrustmaster TX Racing Wheel Leather Edition Premium ($699.95 AUS + free shipping)
While both wheels are mechanically identical, I would have to recommend the Leather edition. It comes with a much higher quality wheel rim (leather and not rubber) and also has a much more durable pedal set (3 pedals with metal plates). Still, the Italia edition TX would be a good choice if you can't spend the extra money. It is better than the G29 and TMX.
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LEVEL 3
Since I saw you talking to some other users about the Fanatec CSL Elite, I might as well discuss these wheels despite it being outside your price range. The Level 3 wheels all use belt-drive systems as well, but are smoother, faster, and quieter than their Level 2 counterparts.
Fanatec Xbox One Competition Pack ($1,109.90 AUS + ??? shipping)
Thrustmaster TS-XW Racer Sparco P310 ($1,099 AUS + ??? shipping)
Both wheels cost around the same and are mechanically almost identical. However, the Thrustmaster has a nicer rim (in my opinion) and has 3 pedals. Still, you should decide this on your own.
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I hope this helped a great deal, and have fun with whatever wheel you choose! Cheers
+1 for Alcantara version. http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-Alcantara-Racing-playstation-4/dp/B015KJ0SES
Having a wheel does make the whole experience much more immersive and enjoyable.
If you are worried about not enjoying racing games with a wheel then I'd suggest a used G27/G29/DFGT if you can find one. You might find setting up and tearing down the wheel to be tedious, so I'd look into getting a stand as well, but that can come later.
I mentioned this already in another post, but the Thrustmaster T300 Alcantara Edition package is a very solid choice. Normally, the price is $469 on Amazon, but I saw it go for $299 during Black Friday and during the Christmas/holiday season. I picked it up when it was on sale, and for that price, its extremely well worth it. This setup is far superior to any of the Logitech wheels/pedals. My roommate has a Logitech G29, and that thing feels like a toy in every way compared to the T300. The T300 is much quiter, smoother feeling, and the pedals feel much more realistic (for this price range). Also just the diameter of the wheel alone makes a huge difference in the feel. It does not come with a separate shifter, but you can always add that in the future.
I have tried the G29 and the T300 side by side, and I can answer any questions you might have about them. Currently I'm using the T300 Alcantara package with a Fanatec 1.5 SQ shifter. The shifter adds ALOT to the experience, and it was totally worth the money IMO.
You've probably already seen this but the t300rs alcantara is on sale https://smile.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-Ferrari-Alcantara-Racing-Wheel/dp/B015KJ0SES/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480328060&sr=8-1&keywords=t300+alcantara
I suggest this instead. Way better value. The stock rim and pedals on the TX are honestly a toy.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-Ferrari-Alcantara-Racing-Wheel/dp/B015KJ0SES/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481820130&sr=8-1&keywords=T300+Alcantara
On backorder but same price on amazon
I just picked up this wheel and I absolutely love it. It's out of stock right now but it should be back in soon I imagine
Thrustmaster VG T300 Ferrari Alcantara Edition Racing Wheel for PS4, PS3 and PC https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015KJ0SES/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_GRKtybA2ZW60X
If you purchase the T300 Alcantara setup, it comes with the T3PA pedal set.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-Alcantara-Racing-playstation-4/dp/B015KJ0SES
Only one steering wheel in the truck at a time, eh?
I’ve got a HORI Racing Wheel Apex. Cheap and no shifter, but it works. Oh, and a DualShock 4, obviously.
Still active at this link: https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=sr_1_2?crid=6OEFOQ2V2JHD&keywords=thrustmaster+t300&qid=1563221078&s=videogames&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sprefix=Thrustmaster+%2Cvideogames%2C185&sr=1-2
Need a budget, but since you just learned to drive, I'm guessing you're young and funds are limited. As /u/MrTrt already said, the T300 is probably the cheapest wheel with swappable rims. https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=thrustmaster+T300&qid=1562172552&s=gateway&sr=8-1
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If you have a bigger budget, then start looking at Fanatec as they have a TON of rim options and price ranges. If you can spend into the thousands, then a direct drive wheel is the way to go.
Heard the tracking isn't great on the WMR's but this with the Thrustmaster T300 RS that's on sale for $200 would be a pretty neat sim racing setup for under $400 if you have the gpu to power it.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=thrustmaster+t300rs+gt&qid=1562597534&s=gateway&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sr=8-3
It's a G29 but I have pulled the pedals out from their casing and made my own retractable pedal box. It works just the same. There is also a similar G920, the G29 works with PC and PS3/4 while the G920 works with PC and Xbox one.
I would say that a wheel adds a great deal of immersion to racing, there are cheaper options but I upgraded pretty much immediately because the paddles on the cheaper wheels are rubbish. They are force feedback so you can feel the car moving through the wheel.
My wheel is barely considered entry level, in fact hardcore enthusiasts will not accept anything less than a Thrustmaster T300 which is out of my price range.
i was never a fan of racing games until i got my Rift. Old me would have laughed at the thought of spending hundreds of dollars on a "toy wheel." Well, i've been sucked in. Project Cars is tons of fun (Assetto Corsa as well), but be warned, it will tax your graphics card. With my OC 980ti I've had to tone down the settings a bit with med/low to get a stable 90fps. I dont have the space for a static driving cockpit/rig, so I got a Wheel Stand Pro to accompany my Logitech G920 wheel and shifter. It's not quite compact, but does fold up and can be easily moved to the corner and out of the middle of my office. A big plus. The wheel is nice and provides a decent level of feedback. I'm no pro when it comes to wheels and accessories, but I have been pleased. The wheel and shifter are a bit pricey, but i was able to find a deal on a good used one on ebay.
https://www.amazon.com/Wheelstand-Pro-compatible-Wheel-Stand/dp/B004AYM96A
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Driving-Force-Racing-941-000121/dp/B00Z0UWV98/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1466259411&sr=1-1&keywords=logitech+g920
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Driving-Force-Shifter-941-000119/dp/B00Z0UWV3O/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=CHQ0JTV6G8X63G9V5ZZZ
I can't speak to how it compares exactly to the G27 and T-150 but from what I have gathered from owners of G27's and Driving Force GT's either one is acceptable...G27 obviously preferred since it comes with an H-shifter and clutch pedal/better pedals...the DFGT is going to feel like a toy since the rim isn't even the actual size of a racing rim, but nonetheless is widely-regarded as the best entry-level racing wheel for people interested in dipping their feet in racing sims/other driving simulators.
On PC you are able to use other external hardware with the wheel itself. On my Driving Force GT (DFGT) I had Fanatec pedals and a Thrustmaster shifter (you simply plug them in using a USB [which they will come with]). Be advised that the same cannot be said for console.
I am going to try reselling my DFGT but will be looking to get rid of it along with a wheel stand pro. I will keep you advised on my pricing when I know of it.
The only specialty items I have would be a corded racing wheel and a Razer Abyssus (Note that the one on that page is a slightly newer one that I don't have.)
I like the wheel a lot for three main reasons.
Although it does lack force feedback (For obvious reasons.) and even vibrations, which makes rumble strips not as rumbly. But the cord is VERY nice and sturdy. I can see the cord being the last thing to break. But for smaller hands some of the buttons may be difficult to reach and use comfortably.
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The mouse is the most generic that Razer makes, but have great build quality and a nice DPI/Sensitivity range. I like to use the highest settings with 3500 DPI @ 1000hz because it means I don't have to move the mouse as much to move the cursor. I also have the sensitivity nearly maximized. I chose it because it was simple (I don't understand how something like this can be comfortable.) looked comfortable, which it fairly is.
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I really want to get a better chair, as the one I use primarily is four years old and basically has wooden boards for "cushions". But at least it can still adjust the height, which I have at the lowest setting to keep me from curling forward and hurting my back.
You can buy the wheel from the video on amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006IR6NH8/ref=s9_psimh_gw_p147_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=00YHP592GNAJJSH3M7FE&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846
I don't know if it works with all the consoles you want or not.
The SteelSeries SRW-S1 is doing me quite well. No mount, but paddle shifters and throttle/brake levers under them on the back, makes for an interesting driving experience.
Found two wheels that don't hurt the wallet very much and I wouldn't have to wait that long to get, wondering what your opinions are on them.
Yes, I know they are super basic, but still wondering which you guys would pick. I know there's more options out there, but this was a quick search.
Genius TwinWheel
ThrustMaster Ferrari Challenge Wheel
http://www.everythingnautical.com/ships-wheels/
http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-Challenge-PlayStation-3-6306200/dp/B009CYMNDM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1420997495&sr=8-3&keywords=racing+wheel
Get the DIY guys on it.
sure but the warthog is also triple the price of the CH.
$284 just for the warthog joystick
http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-HOTAS-Warthog-Flight-Stick-PC/dp/B00CBVHJ00/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1397531164&sr=1-1&keywords=warthog+joystick
which is FAR out the reach of even most hardcore gamers.
vs $97 for the fighterstick.
who cares what it looks like. I want quality and performance before aesthetics.
warthog is occasionally sold for $299 on amazon/newegg/etc in the thruster combo pack. you can get the stick alone for $250 any time not on sale, which also occasionally sells for like $200 on its own.
Just the sticks:
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-HOTAS-Warthog-Flight-Stick/dp/B00CBVHJ00/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1472944778&sr=8-3&keywords=warthog
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA91J43S0697&cm_re=warthog-_-1CV-002B-00G72-_-Product
Yes you can use the CH throttle with 3D pro to make it a hotas. The difference between the fighter stick and the combat stick are; The Fighter stick replaces two of the buttons on the Combat stick with 4 way hats.
Combat Stick = 3 axis and 18 buttons (six push buttons, one 4 way hat switch, and one 8 way point of view hat)
Fighter Stick= 3 axis and 24 buttons (three push buttons, one mode switch button, three 4 way hat switches and one 8 way point of view hat).
Ch Pro Throttle = 3 Traditional push buttons, 1 mode switch button, 3 4-way directional hat and 1 8-way POV hat switch
Depending on what you're playing you may not need all the hats on the Fighter Stick if you get the pro throttle. If you're not looking to spend a lot and are happy wth 3-d the Pro throttle seems to be a nice addition.
Later on, down the road, if you want to upgrade you could get pedals and by the warthog stick separately. Or just buy a new hotas and sell the CH throttle on ebay.
if you're doing flight sims and like your stick I would get the CH throttle and either make your own or purchase a head tracker, (track IR). For flight sims, it's more essential than rudder pedals
Actually, the controllers in that video aren't the one I have. Mine are a little more advanced and have more switches/buttons that the A-10C has.
Throttle Controller
Joystick
I’m about 5 months into DCS. I played some flight sims when I was a kid, 20 years ago, in the Jane’s F/A-18 days, but nothing until DCS. I bought the Flaming Cliffs pack of modules and the A-10C and learned to fly the F-15C mostly at first but slowly read through the 600+ page manual for the A-10C and worked through the training missions and a few campaign missions. The F-15C is great because it doesn’t take too long to learn and you can be having fun shooting down AI flankers in a 10 solid hours of learning and start to get into tactics, the A-10C is definitely the most complicated thing I’ve ever learned for fun. I usually spend a good hr working on A-10C avionics training, then reward myself by jumping in the F-15 when I sit down for a session.
If you do jump into something like the A-10C, I’d recommend getting a quality HOTAS with lots of hat switches, trying to learn the intricacies of avionics and remember keyboard shortcuts and button modifiers is a very big complexity multiplier. I started with a cheap stick then bought the Thrustmaster t16000m and Throttle which works great for F-15, but isn’t quite up to the A-10, so I bought the Warthog stick and use it with the throttle from the t16000.
Amazon had it on sale around thanksgiving/christmas time. It went from 300, to 250, to 230, to 215 to 200? I think was the final price at once point.. I held out til it was 215, didn't regret it one bit.
WOW Evidentally it went all the way down to 160 at one point last year on Amazon:
http://camelcamelcamel.com/Thrustmaster-HOTAS-Warthog-Flight-Stick-PC/product/B00CBVHJ00?context=browse
Yes it has paddle shifters. Here is the wheel I got. It does only have 180 degrees of rotation but since all I really play is F1 and a little Assetto Corsa it hasn't bothered me.
Dude, $80 gets you one of these and it's 100x better than trying to steer in the air or using a thumbstick.
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FB5R1AQ/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stppvp_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=d45777d6-4c64-4117-8332-1659db52e64f&pd_rd_wg=cRUvO&pf_rd_r=MKE6WV44ZQE02CJJ93C4&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-bottom-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B00FB5R1AQ&pd_rd_w=aFLy4&pf_rd_i=force+feedback+wheel&pd_rd_r=72cd1861-ea3a-4363-b872-5a7f1a74d3a7&ie=UTF8&qid=1542583773&sr=2
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If you don't have room for all that, this would still be way better (I have one) as it has gas/brake paddles and can be used in any racing game.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/BNIB-SteelSeries-Simraceway-SRW-S1-Gaming-PC-Steering-Wheel-Controller-FREE-SHIP/283266355553?epid=115153567&hash=item41f3fd9161:g:k~sAAOSwL49b8apr:rk:3:pf:1
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As to feedback, way too early to tell anything about the game you've got going there. A game like Test Drive Unlimited or the old Midtown Madness game from msoft would be cool in VR.
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Works good for me. One hand on the wheel and one on a mouse to look, turn signals, cruise control as well being a naga I can set the number to other things like lights, wipers, map controls etc...
I don't think there are any good wheel under 2K
https://www.amazon.in/Thrustmaster-Racing-Wheel-PS3-PC/dp/B00FB5R1AQ/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1522131620&sr=8-4&keywords=gaming+wheel
Check the reviews.
Oh I thought it was just a game kinda like project cars, I'll def try it. I purchased this wheel off of amazon for $50 on black friday.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FB5R1AQ/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This is what I bought, haven't used it yet other than testing GTA V with VorpX and an xbox controller emulator, however it's supported by Project Cars, which I also own yet haven't played yet.
It's a good buy for your price range to include the pedals as well.
$20 cheaper on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KX75W9O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_grrHDbRWTA1TX
T300rs on amazon.ca. $344.99 canadian. About $110 off. Received mine today
Thrustmaster T300 RS Racing Wheel English Only - PlayStation 4 https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00O8B7D02/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_rfLfAbYJBSZF5
Edit: added link
For those who got trolled googling rs300 and only got bicycle wheels, rims, and actual steering wheels (since above comment didn't provide links), it's the Thrustmaster T300RS
It's even cheaper off of Google Express, and first time Google Express shoppers can get 20% off
Imo, the GT version only shows up $35 more for me, looks like it'll be worth it saving up more for that
Edit: fixed links
I will say that while Taylors price is decent I've found that the higher end wheels are MUCH better. Even Thrustmasters T300RS is night a day difference. Biggest drawback of the G27 is the gear driven motor system. It gives slack and when the wheel is centered there's no force feedback effects AT ALL. Plus, it can be loud...god forbid a gear tooth breaks...CLACK CLACK CLACK. It's really a bad system.
A wheel like the T300RS though is belt driven. No slack, no deadzone, and whisper quiet. Way smoother. It's really, honestly, no comparison at all. Oh and it has a detachable wheel should you choose to get a different one down the road.
So basically if you just HAVE to have a shifter and clutch then G27. If you want a far superior wheel and thus a far superior gaming experience get the T300RS.
I don't care if you're new to this or not. You can always get better pedals and a shifter...you can't improve that G27 wheel though.
http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-playstation-4/dp/B00O8B7D02
Logitech MOMO and DFGT are at or slightly below this price range, but they're two good ones. I've used a MOMO for close to a decade now and it's been a solid wheel. DFGT is superior to the MOMO in most ways except the MOMO has actual paddles instead of just buttons, if that's a big deal for you. DFGT is like 2x the cost of a MOMO though.
If you can save up another $100-$150, or wait for a sale, you could get a Thrustmaster TX or T300RS. They share the same base, and it's one of the best on the market (TX's wheel isn't the best, but it can be replaced). It's miles ahead of all the Logitech wheels (G27,Momo,DFGT) because it's a servomotor with a belt. Logitech wheels are geared which makes the FFB less precise, weaker, and gives them a "notchy" feeling.
IMO if you're looking for a low-cost wheel to test the waters or are new to racing, get a MOMO cause they're very cheap (~$80-$90, vs $150 for a DFGT) and good enough. The MOMO's low steering lock actually makes it well suited for F1 and other open wheel racing. If you are still playing a lot after a year or whatever, put the money you saved on getting the MOMO cheaply into getting a TX/T300RS.
only 3 hours left!!
EDIT: Best price on amazon for this EVER.
http://camelcamelcamel.com/Thrustmaster-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-playstation-4/product/B00O8B7D02
Amazon lists it at $269.99
The T3PA Pro's are currently only $20 more than the T3PA's on Amazon. Link I have them both and the Pros are substantially better, also upgraded the Pros with Richmotech load cell
Not bad. I think I saw it at £200 the other week for all 3.
I’ve heard that the G920 has some reliability issues and that the TMX is probably better to go with if you get the Pro set with the T3PA pedals.
If you’re not too bothered about the shifter straight away I’d get the TMX. I have it and the wheel is great for the price bracket, just steer clear of the 2 pedal set if you have the budget to go a step further. Some links below so you can have a look;
ThrustMaster TMX PRO Steering Wheel + Pedalboard https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01M5ALXJD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_6RUpDb20TDV5F
ThrustMaster T3Pa Pro Pedal set - 4060065 (Gaming > Game Controllers) +}b https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00UVN21IU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_HSUpDbP6YVZ0D
Thrustmaster TH8A Shifter (PS4, Xbox One, PS3, PC - Windows 8, 7, Vista & XP) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005L0Z2BQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_eTUpDbTEV2EHJ
> a metal one
These babies won't break. They're also probably way overkill for PTT.
T3PA Pro's are $100 https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-VG-T3PA-PRO-3-Pedal-Add-Set/dp/B00UVN21IU/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1480338818&sr=1-2&keywords=t3pa
Thrustmaster's standalone pedals would be cheaper or very close to the same price as an ebay G27 pedal set and the Bodnar adapter.
It's a much better product as well.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UVN21IU/
The G29 shifter and Bodnar adapter may be the cheapest shifter option on the market, but the quality definitely reflects that compared to the SHH shifter, TH8A, or Fanatec.
It works and is relatively sturdy though (my G27 shifter is at least) so it isn't a terrible option.
I got thrusmaster:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B014US043A/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00TTQKSUS/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00UVN21IU/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I really like it. I considered logitech in the beginning but then went with thrustmaster because a lot of people said it felt like a toy and there was a deadzone.
$188 on Amazon in the states. https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA
I picked up the T150 thrustmaster force feedback wheel for $160. Not quite as good as the G29 but gets the job done at almost half the price.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA
Thrustmaster T150 FFB Wheel comes with a set of cheap pedals. You can sometimes find it on sale for under $200. It is a PS4 wheel, that is also compatible with PC. https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1518146633&sr=8-2&keywords=t150&th=1
They also make the model TMX that is for XBOX and PC. also $200 https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-racing-wheel-WINDOWS/dp/B01CI97DNM/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1518146633&sr=8-6&keywords=t150
The thrustmaster T150RS is a good starter wheel, and it's $179 on Amazon. I have owned it for 3-4 years and have yet to have a problem. https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Racing-PlayStation4-PlayStation3-playstation-2/dp/B014US02ZA
Project Cars is a good game to show off VR, I was actually playing around with it last night.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/234630/
You might be able to find it cheaper via other sites.
As for the wheel I would recommend at least a Thrustmaster T150. The T300 is way better but also considerably more expensive. This is a solid wheel that is at least somewhat affordable.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1473349087&sr=1-1&keywords=thrustmaster+t150
Cheapest one with Force Feedback is around $200.
You can get this one or this one.
Both work for PC.
> ... having a structure in my living room that looks like half a go kart is contrary to the freedom that VR offers
That's not the purpose of VR though: The purpose of VR is to simulate an experience as accurately as possible. So, for example:
So the "ideal" room for VR depends entirely on the type of game you're playing it. Heck, if you were playing a VR game that simulated swimming, then a room with a swimming pool would be ideal.
Anyway, the cheapest possible PS4 wheel you can get that is worth owning is the Thrustmaster T150:
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B014US02ZA/
First thing first. Why would you want to spend a fortune on a shifter instead of getting better pedals or the wheel?
I'd rather suggest get G27 or even G29 or G920 for as low as you can get, in this case and buy a better pedal set like Fanatec CSL Elite rather than the shifter that costs the same. IMHO, it's pointless to spend a fortune on a shifter in this case when you can get far more important things like pedals.
Being in your situation I would do the following:
buy Thrustmaster T150 on Amazon
buy Fanatec CSL Elite pedals
P.S. don't forget that shipping costs and import tax applies when you order Fanatec in Canada. I bought the whole set (Fanatec CSW v2.5, Formula Black rim, ClubSport v3 pedals, Brake performance kit) and had to pay a about $200 for shipping and about the same for the import tax.
I ordered this Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas 4 Flight Stick
and this Thrustmaster VG T150.
I like that they'll be compatible with both Vive and Oculus and, since I have a PS4 and plan on getting PSVR, they should be compatible with the PS4 too. Very rare to find hardware compatibility across the board like that.
This one is good for $200.
http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA
A review from Inside Sim Racing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJoZyCWUhDs
edit: I think I linked the wrong wheel, fixed. So that pricezombie thing is for another wheel.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Racing-PlayStation4-PlayStation3-playstation-2/dp/B014US02ZA/ref=pd_cart_vw_crc_1_2/143-0195468-4173650?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B014US02ZA&pd_rd_r=ede26c3a-ec21-4d81-a5b2-d21b4e3421e0&pd_rd_w=Kfi3v&pd_rd_wg=40FWE&pf_rd_p=aa9f3def-b8ac-4b15-aa4b-c6a8313c2f5e&pf_rd_r=00P29C9MKR8QTGRGVX1N&psc=1&refRID=00P29C9MKR8QTGRGVX1N
here is the amazon link, its new. Also i fell like the pedals on the logitech would be better but if you say so.
I went with the Playseat Challenge and the Thrustmaster T150.
They're working out great for me so far.
Well, barely: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Dual-motor-Feedback-Responsive-PlayStation/dp/B00Z0UWWYC/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1527736261&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=thrustmaster+t150&dpPl=1&dpID=41HFwIn650L&ref=plSrch
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1527736261&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=thrustmaster+t150&dpPl=1&dpID=517SecDrovL&ref=plSrch
I know that the G29 is a good wheel, but I don't know about the Thrustmaster T150, but it would fit your budget.
I just grabbed mine a few days ago for this reason. I made a post about a good deal on amazon for a Thrustmaster T150. It's still going on if you're interested.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B014US02ZA/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all
Keep in mind its a third party seller with no reviews, but it's covered my Amazons A to Z guarantee. It's the seller that has it listed for $130
The wheel stand itself is like $120. The wheel and pedals have a huge range based on what you get. You might get something ok on eBay for like $125-175 but if you want a new wheel that's pretty cheap then this one is good for $200. There are wheels under that cost by they just aren't good enough in my opinion. Above that price there are wheels of all sorts of costs up to many thousands of dollars.
This is the one I eventually settled on:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014US02ZA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
200 bucks for a decent-ish FFB wheel. Outside of finding a crazy windfall deal, this was the best price I could find without compromising too much quality and including FFB. I've been using it on Dirt Rally and I think its great for its price.
I know it's not the answer you were looking for, but I personally wouldn't recommend a wheel without force feedback. You're really driving sort of "blind" without it.
Cheapest alternative I know of is the Thrustmaster T150.
example
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Racing-Wheel-Servo-Base-Xbox/dp/B014US043A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466012601&sr=8-1&keywords=thrustmaster+base
Alright, so im thinking I get these two things
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Racing-Ferrari-xbox-one-Windows/dp/B014US043A?th=1
http://www.microcenter.com/product/452281/Ferrari_GTW_Wheel_Add-On_458_Challenge_Edition
That wheel is the cheapest one i can find ($66) should be fine right?
You could also go for the Thrustmaster T300 with the Alcantara wheel and T3PA pedals and the TH8A shifter for less money than the bundle with a better wheel.
I was about to write a lengthy text, until I realized that all i was saying has already been discussed :-)
I would love to recommend you the Thrustmaster VG T300 Ferrari Alcantara Edition , but the Logitech's QC has been really bad, and I don't know if they have improved in the last two years or not, so I can't really recommend them with a straight face...
The G29 is basically a slightly updated G27 minus the H-shifter (which you can buy separately if needs be). Some people are angry because of the omitment of the shifter, therefore the mixed reviews, otherwise it's a great set.
If you get more serious about sim-racing, and want to get better lap-times you can mod the G27 brake pedal with a loadcell...either totally diy (around 100 dollar) or with a kit (130 dollar).
It all depends on your budget obviously, but the G29 is definitively a very good set with the ability to mod the hell out of the brake pedal (if you ever feel the need to do so).
If you have more questions I am sure the guys and gals at /r/simracing are glad to help you (especially as the majority of them has more experience than I have...I'm still only entry-level enthusiast hehe).
:-)
The issue with the wheel is that you will have to spend a lot of money to do much better than the g29. I do think the t300 is an upgrade, especially the Alcantara edition but it's only a slight upgrade, definitely not worth the price of the upgrade. The pedals it comes with are a slight upgrade as well, again, I wouldn't pay that price unless your kit breaks.
Loadcell pedals on the other hand are kind of a no-brainer. CSL elites w/ the load cell will last you a very long time. Contrary to some of the posters here I would suggest getting the loadcell brake pedal right away. Learning to brake on a load cell is totally different (much much better) and you will have to relearn once you get it so there is no point delaying in my opinion.
I would get those then look into a bottom tier DD like the SW7C that goes for $550 + shipping in the future.
You also need a drill and a bunch of different size M6s to attach everything to the Challenge.
Oh, and I put a bunch of foam behind my pedals.
Holy wow thank you for the in depth response. Just really started getting into true sim racing and the whole community has been awesome so far.
I've been using a crap wheel/controller so I'm basically looking at my first true set up. That means Logitech and others are out because I want to be in an ecosystem I can upgrade and grow over time. That seems to mean Fanatec or Thristmaster right now.
With that in mind , I'm comparing integrated products, base wheel and pedals together. The best prices I've found on new products so far have been through Fanatec direct and Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-Alcantara-Racing-playstation-4/dp/B015KJ0SES
https://www.fanatec.com/us-en/bundle/product;bundle_id;153
They both have awesome upsides with huge upgrades I can make over time, which is really the most important thing to me right now. If I wind up living and breathing sim racing, I'll eventually want to go direct drive, but I don't have any plans to do so as of yet.
Plus, in all honesty, if I don't stick with sim racing for the very long term (which I think is unlikely, but always a possibility), the Elite and T300 both seem to retain their value pretty well, definitely better than the current crop of Logitech and other brands.
Thoughts on the above would be awesome! Thanks again.
This thread is now moot. TS300 and TS300 Alcantara went on sale on Amazon for $250/$300 and I'll be returning the G29 based on the opinions here and the research I've done elsewhere. Thanks everyone for your input!
https://smile.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300RS-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-Racing/dp/B015KJ0SES/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480322723&sr=8-1&keywords=t300rs&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015KJ0SES/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awdb_jCcpyb99GXT5V
today only adn hands down the best you are goign to get at that price range
Yeah, the shifter is a sequential shifter only and there is no clutch pedal. The G27 included an H shifter and a clutch pedal, and the pedals themselves were of much higher quality than the DFGT pedals and it all would sell as low as $200 new when it was still being made, hence why I would typically recommend that as the starting point. With how Logitech decided to price its successor without actually improving anything, I just can't recommend buying Logitech wheels anymore.
The Thrustmaster TMX would be the Thrustmaster equivalent of the DFGT and the T300 is what I would consider to be competing with the G27/G29, but the Thrustmaster wheel is much higher quality for the price you're paying.
Difference would be wheel rim, and possibly the included pedals. If they're giving you the T300 Ferrari Integral Racing Wheel Alcantara Edition for less then the default package, do it now!
I can recommend my setup:
Thrustmaster T300 Ferrari Alcantara Integral Edition
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015KJ0SES/ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487172453&sr=8-1-fkmr0&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=thrustmaster+t+300
Get a extra shifter like the TH8A
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005L0Z2BQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487172565&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=thrustmaster&dpPl=1&dpID=41AEMeEQwUL&ref=plSrch
SimRig GT Omega Pro RS9
http://usa.gtomegaracing.com/racing-simulator-cockpits/pro-racing-simulator-cockpit/gt-omega-pro-racing-simulator-basic-rs9-seat-canada
Total cost: 1070$
Of course you could get even better options on the market. But IMO it is the best compromise between cost, reliability and quality.
I have this T300 to offer. Shoot me a PM if you are interested. I live in the US though.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015KJ0SES/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1497709973&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=t300+rs&dpPl=1&dpID=41P9utdH5SL&ref=plSrch
In that price this is the only wheel worth while https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Racing-Wheel-Apex-PlayStation-4/dp/B01LZ3AEFP/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1509683791&sr=1-3&keywords=racing+wheel&dpID=41HvzKgG2CL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
You can buy a cheap racing wheel but obviously it's going to get shit on by people who play a truck simulator the same as a cheap quadcopter will be shit on by DIY RC hobbyists. Doesn't mean that it's not a good product, it's just not what a "purist" would want to use.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01LZ3AEFP
Thrustmaster T300 RS GT Racing Wheel - PlayStation 4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_TnpjDbKBWETSD
Click the link below “new and used from $200” — top link is the one being sold by amazon.
It’s out of stock now, but you can order it/buy it from Best Buy and get a price match. That’s what I did and it’s supposed to be delivered on Friday!
This is a good deal. PC and PS4. No shifter, but for the price, it’s much better than a g920. Thrustmaster T300 RS GT Racing Wheel - PlayStation 4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_QOPkDbS62HW63
$100 is only going to get you something used (like a t150 or g29) or something like the T80 that does not have force feedback, and force feedback is probably the biggest reason to use a wheel, so I personally would not recommend going that route.
The T300RS GT is on sale for $200 today for prime day, which is a really good deal for that level of kit. Cheaper than the T150 is usually, and it is a much higher quality wheel (I've had both.) If you've got the scratch right now, that is likely your best bet. Outside of prime day, the non-GT version, which only has two pedals, is typically around 230-250.
Also, browse a bit on /r/simracing, there are a lot of advice questions like this, as well as a very good buying guide that will help you get a good grasp on the options.
As a personal aside, spend a little more up front if you have any inkling this will be a hobby of yours. The t300 made a world of difference once I upgraded after hundreds of hours on the T150, and if you'll be spending a lot of time with it might as well get treat yourself up front.
are you in the US? Amazon just dropped the price of the T300 to 200 with the 3 pedal set, insane price for what you get.
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https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL
There already is a dedicated wheel... It's Thrustmaster T300 RS GT.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thrustmaster-T300-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL
This is a steal for the T300.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_pyHUCb861Q7KQ
And the G29 is at 200 right now.
And you gotta find a stand.
> Thrustmaster T300 RS wheel
That sounds great - I like Thrustmaster's quality. I've been using their A10 HOTAS for flight sim for a while now.
Does this combo seem like the right wheel + pedals even though it says it's Gran Turismo edition for PS4?
not OP but I just got the Thrustmaster T300 RS GT for 200 + tax on amazon. Its list price is 400 but it keeps dipping to 200. You might get lucky if you keep an eye on it.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M1L2NRL/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I haven't tried the T300, but the G920 was nice.
For the prices, (according to CamelCamelCamel, a price tracker for Amazon) the T300 is at a historical low, while the G920 was cheaper just a few weeks ago (even with the Prime discount).
https://camelcamelcamel.com/Logitech-Dual-Motor-Feedback-Driving-Responsive/product/B00Z0UWV98?context=search
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https://camelcamelcamel.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/product/B01M1L2NRL?context=search
Try for a T300 RS GT IMHO. Will give you the option to expand into H-shifter driving down the road easily by buying a TH8A shifter.
According to CamelCamelCamel, it fell as low as $240 briefly on Amazon last December but anything $300 and under is a pretty good deal basically, and I think it's hit $270 repeatedly.
You should be able to get the T300RS GT for cheaper than $400.
I got the Ferrari version for less than the $400 a week ago on Newegg (it was down to 389 before any coupons or anything).
You can always use the Camelizer to check it's historical prices on Amazon.
https://camelcamelcamel.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/product/B01M1L2NRL?active=price_new&context=home_recent
Also an option for us Canadians. is the TS-PC racer. Right now it's $504.99 CAD with free shipping if you have prime. I had it in my watch list for a while and I ordered one yesterday when they went from about $606 CAD to to $527. Of course the day after they go even lower and Amazon won't credit me the difference :/
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01MQDQA3U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Amazon magically has them back also for $399, 27% off: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MQDQA3U/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
A copy of what i sent to one user, but my recommendation still stands:
If you end up buying a joystick one day, I strongly urge you to look for Thrustmaster 16000, or for something with the equivalent of Thrustmaster's HALL effect. It really IS really-really nice. Because with whatever game you end up playing, you may end up using only a few buttons, but the joystick part of it will always be there, so THAT'S what you want to be top notch.
And I may be repeating myself, but that HALL effect is what they use in the pretty much highest end Warthog Joysticks and HOTAS, ones that go for $300+, so even though the buttons and the build itself of the 16000 is the same as of the other joysticks in the 30-50$, the action part of its is way above it's level.
Here's an Amazon link to the pre-order of the new version of the joystick by itself:
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-VG-T16000M-FCS-Joystick-Black/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=sr_1_10?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1479623136&sr=1-10&keywords=thrustmaster+joystick
They're 59.99 on Amazon.
Thrustmaster T16000M FCS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_TTJsDbV6M9SFR
Theres a Kit that gives you the stick and throttle, that's $129.99.
Thrustmaster VG T16000M FCS Joystick, Black - PC https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_19UeAbXQZDW1B
Some "higher end" links for you:
Don't use this for E:D Warthog that is my 2c worth. Its maybe looks all metal but has some plastic internals and really is not for space flight sims. Allot of people bitch about the nipple on the throttle. So just my opinion that you should not look at it.
On the lower end:
Happy stick hunting, fly safe CMDR o7!
I'd go with the [T16000M FCS](Thrustmaster T16000M FCS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_oLPvCbGXEZ1HX) for $40 ATM
It's got the same sensors as the Thrustmaster Warthog stick, and the magnetic sensors feel better to me in general. As others have mentioned, this game has a ton of keybinds so as much as I like dedicated throttles, I find myself getting annoyed going back and forth from it to the keyboard.
That said if you don't think you'll mind switching back and forth, I'd recommend the [hotas combo that includes this stick](Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KCHPRXA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_5SPvCbKVNA2QA).
Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS is the only one I'm pretty sure.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-16000M-FCS-HOTAS-Controller/dp/B01KCHPRXA/
EDIT: Here's it with just the stick, because the throttle doesn't look like it'd be too useful with your right hand
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T16000M-FCS-Joystick-Black/dp/B01MQEDEEW/
Flying with dual joysticks (and pedals) feels awesome! I got a T16000m FCS plus a T16000m FCS Flight Pack and only use the sticks and the pedal right now
I am gonna configure my setup in a way that I can switch from hosas to hotas when I am not in combat to be able to fly around more relaxed. It should be pretty easy to set up if I play around with the Target software some more.
The first time setting up dual joysticks was pretty tedious. I used TheNOOBIFIER1337's Playlist and the several reddit posts as an inspiration and finally decided to set them up more or less like in this video
To keep my desk uncluttered and my KB/M close I made a setup like this one!. Here are some more Images.
Oh hey, I own that joystick! It's old and has huge problems with y-axis, but it was a trusty joystick.
Anyway, depending on how well you can touch type, you could even use KB/M.
I run dual stick - the attack 3 in left hand for thrusters, and in my right a t16000m, works great. (though my t16000m is green/grey, older version, the new one looks like it would be easier to use in VR, and is ED colored). You could also try buying the throttle and using your old joystick
green one
orange one
Orange one is newer, but is the same basic stick. Has some bumps and insets on the buttons on the base of the stick so you don't have to look down to confirm where your fingers are. They also added some texture to the buttons on the top of the stick for better grip there.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-VG-T16000M-FCS-Joystick-Black/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=pd_sim_147_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=2R4M0N4CN75NMYSD7ST8
dot has better quality, i think the dot is actually a newer version of the dash one.
Here are links:
T-16000M
T.16000M
T.16000M With Throttle Included
CH FighterStick
Heard good things about this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N9K9N33/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_asa0AbB82WM3J
At that price, if buying new, take a look at the Thrustmaster TMX pro, which has three pedals, but no shifter. If you discover you like your setup you can always add the shifter later. Just be sure to get something with decently reviewed force feedback. That'll make or break your experience.
I really recommend checking craigslist too.
You asked about separate shifter... For lap times paddles are the way to go. Just like in real life a stick shifted car is more involving, while the dual clutch equivalent will be faster. Personal preference really.
There are all sorts of posts about wheels/rigs, shifters, and more over at /r/simracing
Actually a good price for the T150 Pro, it's at $175 with the promo code and CamelCamelCamel has the lowest price on Amazon at $199.99.
That being said, from what I've read the T300 is a considerable upgrade to the T150. Much better force feedback and the wheel on the T150 isn't interchangeable. Could be a good purchase depending on how hardcore of a sim rig you want.
This is what I originally used and thought it was great for the price:
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL
Found this on amazon, They have some deals going on, only $300 right now
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=sr_1_6?crid=3QUEUIFNW7BTA&keywords=thrustmaster&qid=1574581674&sprefix=thrus%2Caps%2C218&sr=8-6
THRUSTMASTER T300RS GT
T150 thrustmaster (175 from newegg, bestbuy will honor in store price match), I went dirt cheap because I am new to the sim gig and didn't want to put up a ton of cash if I didn't like it. Now I am looking at the OSW open source wheels which is like a $1200 solution.
VR racing is my favorite use of virtual reality.
There are belt/gear driven wheels and direct drive wheels. There are a few options between 150-500 bucks, all of them will get the job done the same. If you are never going to upgrade but you want a good wheel, get a $300+ belt/gear wheel with pedal package.
Most common,
G27
or
T300
There are various models and packages both thrustmaster and logitec offer more expensive standalone wheels but at $500 dollars you start to get into premium belt/gear territory.
Fanatec CSL
Then there is the ultimate, direct drive. Fanatec just released a new wheel and there are others but we are talking 1k+ for the wheel alone.
OSW sumucube is an open source racing wheel kitted together for the user. You can find the OSW kit guide but there are a lot of parts to build and learning to go with it, the kit saves the trouble but is less expensive than other direct drive offerings.
TL;DR It is all based on price point, $150, $300, $500, $1000. I chose to go the cheapest possible route, use it until I can afford the upgrade or it breaks.
Your best bet would probably be the T300RS GT edition for around $450 - https://www.amazon.com.au/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-GT-Edition/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=Thrustmaster+T300&qid=1555519222&s=gateway&sr=8-5
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It also comes with the T3PA pedals, which are much better than the normal 2 pedal thrustmaster option.
What? The t300 GT edition is the same price as the base model: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01M1L2NRL/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495476170&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=thrustmaster+t300&dpPl=1&dpID=411vsJlmBML&ref=plSrch
Next step is a wheel with a good base. I mean, G920 is like 200-250€. Next clever step is to try some base with some good wheel. 300-500€
Thrustmaster TS-PC
[Thrustmaster T500 RS] https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thrustmaster-T500-Force-Wheel-Feedback/dp/B004GNG2MW?th=1
And you can find some fanatec between that prices...but I think best wheel quality/price is the Fanatec Clubsport if you dont think about Open Sim Wheel.
Hope it helps you!
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So you'd recommend two of these?
Nice. One of the good things with the T16000M is that it's reversible- so if you want the option of dual sticks you can get a matching one and use it with your left hand instead of the throttle.
This offer is probably the best value hotas you can buy at the moment. The quality is excellent if you don't mind a plastic stick.
Its a nice joystick and currently on sale
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQEDEEW/
> Don't by a plane with complicated systems and tricky/unique flight characteristics if you can't fly an F-15 proficiently. The FC3 planes have simplified systems but most have the same level of flight model. The F-15C and Su-27/33 are 3 of the best air to air planes in the game, so you're not at a disadvantage in that regard, if they were full fidelity they'd probably be even better (more radar modes to work with is one that comes to mind), master these then get the mirage
Thanks I think I'll stick with the FC3 planes mainly the F-15C for now, I heard that Mirage is not ransferable between Steam and Standalone so that might be a problem.
Also Can Steam players play with Standalone players?
> Get a proper hotas before going past the FC3 aircraft
So HOTAS X would be insufficient? I did look at the T16kM do I need the throttle combo? or just the stick? since I see there is what looks like a small throttle slide right there
and what do you think about the VKS Gladiator MkII stick? I've been eyeing it for a while (because I like how it looks, but expensive, I'm probably more likely to get T16K M. )
One last thing, Su-27, the engine won't start, I know the Start up sequence is pretty similar for all FC3 planes, I did the same things I do on the F-15C but the Throttle doesn't respond, there is no engine noise the plane just won' start.
MiG29 did respond to the same start up sequence, (battery>cockpit>engine>Nav lights>flaps)
Get yourself two of these and play Star Citizen!
https://smile.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-2960773-T16000M-Joystick-Black/dp/B01MQEDEEW/
Yes, DCS.
Mapping controls for flight sims is an enormous pain in the ass, no way around it. That's why I'm flummoxed as to why XP11 is so far the only legacy sim to implement motion-controlled cockpits (IL2 doesn't either.)
XP11 will give you the basics of flight and I think they have a tutorial, too. But at some point, you'll need a hotas. If you're on a budget, get a twist stick with a slider that you can use for throttle (separate throttle is way over-rated imo).
eta: i've heard good things about the t16000. Thrustmaster VG 2960773 T16000M FCS Joystick, Black - PC https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_slFYBb7HVTQW1
Get the throttle set if you're feeling rich.
I use the T16000M Joystick.
While some of the buttons are softer than I'd like, it is very good. I really enjoy racing with it.
I would go with the T.16000M (but why is it so expensive?). The new T.16000M with orange lights costs only 50€ in Europe and 59$ in the US link.
But if you can spend more (and i mean a lot more) i would go for a VKB Gladiator Pro or the better Gunfighter plus pedals. I just ordered a pair of gunfighters with rudder predals for 900€ (plus another 500€ for better grips and twist adapters after they come out next year).
Imho is for space sims a dual stick setup the best option because you need 6 axes (one for each of the 6DOF). Right now i use 2 T.16000M til my new sticks arrive. And for warthunder you only need one stick without throttle since the T.16000M has a throttle slider.
You are in luck! These guys (which are generally recommended) are on sale: https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-2960773-T16000M-Joystick-Black/dp/B01MQEDEEW
Get two for a HOSAS setup.
There's the Thrustmaster t.16000M stick. It's a little light on hats, but from what I've heard it's pretty quality otherwise. Amazon link here
This is the new version
Amazon VG T16000M
Not sure if they are still making the older one, I currently have 2.
I use the Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS and also got a second Warthog Stick for a dual stick setup.
http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/accessories/apd/a9168831?cid=309562&st=&gclid=CLWYqP6dk9QCFR1LDQodiiAAFw&lid=5848362&VEN1=s7nLQ1cQ4,183457792450,901pdb6671,m,,A9168831&VEN2=,&dgc=ST&DGSeg=DHS&acd=1230980731501410&VEN3=812403894302130950
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CBVHJ00/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_IJXkzbZ5X9RT3
I also use the VKB Rudder Pedals.
http://store-x-plane-org.3dcartstores.com/VKB-T-Rudder-Pedals-MkIV_p_571.html
As for matching sticks, I am waiting to get the VIRPIL grips since they fit on the Warthog bases.
https://virpil.com/en/filtered/gpips/
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Alternatively, you can go with two VKB Gunfighter bases and wait for VKB SIM to release their newer right handed and left handed grips (which you can purchase later).
https://vkbcontrollers.com/?product=vkb-sim-gunfighter-base-only
Or perhaps two VKB Gladiator Pros for now and update both grips or just the left grip later when they eventually release:
https://vkbcontrollers.com/?product=vkb-gladiator
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Another way to go about it is getting two T16000 sticks (for a dual stick setup):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_8UXkzbM4P2BW7
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Or just go with the T16000 HOTAS (with or without pedals):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KCHPRXA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_PVXkzbAW6TM7K
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015PII6YI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_yWXkzb0KK7FTK
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Now although there are other options, like the Saitek products (X52, X55/X56) and CH products, those just aren't my cup of tea and too many problems plague the Saitek products that they don't seem to be worth investing in. I returned mine and got the Warthog setup and it's so much better. Night and day difference.
I hope I have listed enough choices at different price points to help you make a more informed decision.
And YES, DUAL STICKS are the best :D
says you can order and they'll ship when ready.
I personally recommend this setup:
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-16000M-FCS-HOTAS-Controller/dp/B01KCHPRXA
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-2960773-T16000M-Joystick-Black/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ (stick only)
Only $100 for stick and throttle, $50 for just the stick. Throttle has enough buttons that you won't need to touch your keyboard. I don't recommend just the stick on its own, having a stick + throttle really is the way to go.
First, sorry for my shortcutting on the joystick. I was referring to the Thrustmaster T16000M. Same idea, basically, other than I am less interested in the full SIM, and am more likely to go with a HOSAS rather than HOTAS experience. As a side, I have a passionate interest in peripheral interfaces overall. I worked with a rehabilitation center in a Kinesiology College at a University, and I helped with the IT for laboratories which were using video game technology to combine with engineering to help people with disabilities. That included everything from people with MS interacting with Ocular Rift, to wheelchair rehab, etc. So I really geek out on ultra high dpi controls.
You did answer my question on that I would need an expansion for planetary landings and buggy exploration. That is a thing I like about the game's potential. I watched some videos by ObsidianAnt and they did interest me.
I think for me to subscribe, realizing that I'll have to spend some cash to do what I want and face some grindy elements, I'll basically see if I can find some social interaction that makes it worth my while.
I was skeptical but hopeful for years, until I saw Hurston and Lorville get released, and I finally jumped in both-feet during the end of the last Anniversary sale. Player-generated clips like this one and this one definitely helped convince me... I mean look at that, it's all actually there in the game, nothing is a backdrop only for viewing from that spot on some map, that sun isn't rising, the earth-sized planet you are on is spinning in space.
My biggest suggestion: get a proper HOTAS, or at least a stick with a throttle on it and some good base-area buttons - I use an old Saitek X-52 that interestingly enough is being re-released in a few weeks. There are some serious mil-sim level ones out there too. The T-Flight Hotas X and T16000M are popular for the budget-minded (although Star Citizen will rapidly change your mind about what "sensible expenditure" in a game means lol). Get a used one if you want a killer one but can't afford new (seriously though, $60 man, very worth it), but it's a huge help not having to go to keyboard commands for anything flight-related, including targeting, countermeasures, scanners, thruster controls, etc. When hopping out of your flight seat (either to do something in your ship or get out of it entirely), just have the mouse and keyboard positioned to either side of the flight stick, easy. You'll use the mouse in the cockpit a fair bit too, to interact with the MFDs sometimes for things like requesting landing clearance, changing MFD functions, overclocking components on the ship, etc,. It's the most immersive sci-fi flight/FPS/society game I've ever seen.
I'd highly recommend to get in as soon as they announce Update 3.5, adding the entirely new planet ArcCorp, its main landing area for spaceships Area 18, several moons, and the long-awaited new flight model, go Public Live in a few more days. Fly your starter ship (I recommend the Avenger Stalker starter ship or the Cutlass Black package for the bit of cargo space you get, helps make a little money and can still fight ), enjoy a bit of mission running, exploration etc, and learn the world, and when the next massive Anniversary Sale comes around in November you'll know what ships you really want and can make informed decisions, as the sales they have at that time are awesome.
Whatever starter package you get, it'll need to be a "Game Package" that includes the base game as well, and after that one-time buy you just buy standalone ships or packages if you want to pay real money, or you can buy many of them in-game for game-money (UEC) if you make enough (many good ones are millions of UEC). The advantage of paying real money is that they will be with you forever - as they make major updates CIG usually resets all accounts to starter levels again, and you lose anything you earned in that version of Alpha - but you also have many advantages in Alpha that will not be present in the final game so still worth it to buy cheaper ships in-game IMO.
^edit: ^added ^bit ^about ^game ^packages
Well, I skimmed through your videos, and thank you for your input, however, the work you are talking about it beyond my skill level. I found a T160000M direct from Amazon for $60 new, so I ordered one. If I like it, I will probably order a second one. If I decide I would prefer to use a throttle, I still have the throttle from my X-55.
Now I just need to figure out what to do with these old sticks....
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MQEDEEW/
Back in stock with price increase?
> Price: $72.62 & FREE Shipping
> Only 18 left in stock.
> Sold by Beach Audio
What the fuck thrustmaster...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MQEDEEW
That's the one I got off of Amazon. It's not super cheap but it's way less than the other ones they offer, in case you're looking for something new.
No, because two sticks are $120. The HOTAS is $110 on sale.
So I emailed thrustmaster and this is what they sent me:
>We thank you for your interest in Thrustmaster products and for reaching us regarding your inquiry.
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>The initial versions of this new product will be as following:
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>- the FCS throttle available as a standalone device;
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>- the throttle and the joystick unit, as a package;
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>- T.16000 Flight Package (the FCS joystick and throttle units accompanied by the TFRP Rudders Pedals pedal set).
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>We are also taking into consideration the commercialization of the T.16000 FCS joystick as a standalone device but at this moment we cannot provide you with an ETA on when this will become available.
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>We rest at your disposal for any other inquiries.
That being said it looks like it for preorder outside of the states and bhphotovideo.com also has one.
EDIT: welp they are available in the sates for preorder now amazon link I don't understand why they would send an email saying they don't know if they will be selling it on its own when they were going to allow stores to announce that they are the very next day.
For all you commanders wielding a dual joystick setup, you can finally purchase the new Thrustmaster T16000m flight stick separate from the new HOTAS throttle. Available 28 November 2016.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01MQEDEEW/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1479119919&sr=8-2&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=Thrustmaster+VG&dpPl=1&dpID=41ddxyOeLrL&ref=plSrch
Edit: For those looking for international shipping. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=1296153&gclid=CJWs1I2MqNACFdglvQod70EObg&is=REG&c3api=1876%2C50960586482%2C%2C&Q=&A=details&pcur=AUD
I use a Thrustmaster TMX Pro. $250 shipped by Amazon in the USA.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-VG-TMX-PRO-Racing-Wheel/dp/B01N9K9N33/
The wheel and pedals from the picture are $250, plus between $150 and $250 for the stand.
Thrustmaster VG TMX PRO Racing Wheel - Xbox One, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N9K9N33/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_iZBQBbBY8PPA0
Thrustmaster VG TMX PRO Racing Wheel - Xbox One, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N9K9N33/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_8f4Nzb0B0DBHR
https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B01N9K9N33/ref=acr_dp_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&reviewerType=all_reviews#reviews-filter-bar
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tmx pro is garbage?
You absolutely can. This one is designed especially for flight controls but it's way more expensive than the one you listed. It might take some fiddling with the base to get the mounts to fit and everything to be comfortable, but you can totally make it work.
This is a solid deal. I bought this with stock pedals for the same price a year ago. Those pedals are worth ~$100 alone. https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T150-PRO-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B06XP1JZ53
I think it is. From what I've read the pedals of the G29 are 100x better. I found the G29 for $199 and the best I've found with the Thrustmaster 150 Pro (medal pedals) was $202, the regular t150 with the plastic pedals is $149.
Links:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/logitech-g29-driving-force-racing-wheel-for-playstation-3-and-playstation-4-black/4223000.p?skuId=4223000
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T150-PRO-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B06XP1JZ53?th=1
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA?th=1
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T150-PRO-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B06XP1JZ53/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=t150&qid=1562433202&s=videogames&sr=1-4
the T150 is the same wheel, that's the pro model, for $199, so cheaper than the TMX even though it's literally the same wheel.
If you want to buy a new one, then probably the T150+T3PA set fits exactly in your limit. The pedals are really worth it compared to the stock pedals that come with the regular T150.
You could also try to keep an eye on a used T300 or T500 that might sell around this price range.
Okay, wow. First of all, Wheelstand Pro products seem like a good value, until you realize that you have to buy the right wheel stand for what you plan to eventually do, and need to make sure you buy the right add on pieces for that stand. After checking their website, for the wheel and the pedals I want, in the configuration that I plan to use them, I'd have to spend over $300 USD for this, and it wouldn't be able to fold up completely because of the pedal design. Then, I'd still need another stand for my Joy and HOTAS.
I'm thinking I'll get the [Next Level Flight Stand] (https://www.amazon.com/Level-Racing-Wheel-Flight-playstation-2/dp/B073WVDKSP/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1511939568&sr=8-2&keywords=Next+level+flight+stand), since I can mount a Racing Wheel and Pedals to it, and I'm not likely to get flight pedals or a Racing Shifter any time soon. That way I'll have a complete setup ready to go for just @$300 USD on Amazon. It will also fold up more since it's a dual-spar design.
Anyone have some thoughts about this, or a better option?
The playseat challenge looks awesome, is it able to support a flight throttle and stick such as a Saitek set?
I just purchased the Next Level Flight stand for $200 off eBay because it is collapsible and supports racing and flight controls. Will be delivered next week. It doesnt come with a seat though like the playseat challenge.
Next Level Racing Wheel and Flight Stand
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073WVDKSP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_YkzbAbAHTH2R2
I saw this as well, which is basically both combined for less than the original+addon...
This might be what I go with but I'm also seeing all these on ebay for under $100 which is kind of what I had in mind if I were to DIY it... but I'm usually terrified of ebay and I can only find one review of an adorable Aussie kid who loves it... I just can't find any detailed information on mounting capabilities...
The other option I'm looking at is: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073WVDKSP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_YkzbAbAHTH2R2 so I can more easily mount my hotas joystick along with my wheel and shifter but I really like the idea of the racing seat so I'm just not sure what to do.
I can thoroughly recommend wheelstandpro, they have specific models for Logitech / Thrustmaster / Fanatec (the fanatec clubsport pedals kit and clubsport shifter RGS specific kits can be ordered from them directly if you email them)
Delivery from Poland to Australia in under 4 days, fantastic email support.
See also the reviews on Amazon.
This is their Thrustmaster wheelstand + RGS for the TH8A on amazon.
The RGS is optional - but if you decide on the TH8A or Fanatec shifter later - you'll need them to sit lower than steering wheel height.
> Yeah, I am wondering that myself since Sony havent confirmed if the PS4 will support the G25/G27.
After I saw this, shortly after the Driving Force GT started to disappear from online retailers like Amazon, it basically cemented my needing to wait on getting a wheel.
When the DFGT was around $150 (which it was for quite a while), I might've been able to justify it. (Though adding something like this to the purchase doesn't help.) But the G27 was always out of my price range, unfortunately.
But maybe Logitech will come out with a good DFGT replacement that's 100% PS4 compatible and still goes for the same price as the DFGT did and this will all work out for the best in the long-run! :)
This is the one i've got and wheel/pedals too cost £150 all in .
http://www.amazon.com/Wheelstand-Pro-Wheel-Stand-included/dp/B004AYM96A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1405622603&sr=8-2&keywords=wheelstand+pro
They have ones for the G25/27 which are exactly the same but with a mount for you shifter
I'm from Canada too. I shop on Amazon.ca instead and use Prime (Free Delivery). You can get on amazon.ca a wheel stand below $200 CAD as well. Just look for Prime and you will get free delivery:
[Here is one example] (https://www.amazon.ca/Wheelstand-Pro-Wheel-Stand-included/dp/B004AYM96A/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1500232859&sr=8-4&keywords=wheel+stand)
I used to have [this one] (https://www.amazon.ca/Steering-Wheel-Stand-Pro-included/dp/B004AYMCRG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1500232859&sr=8-1&keywords=wheel+stand) for my G29 wheel.
amazon link, eBay link
Seems weirdly expensive, mine was only about £40, same model. Probably a sale. I know it says Logitech, but these stands are compatible with just about everything.
Buy a wheelstand pro and fold it up when not in use. It becomes a giant, portable controller.
https://www.amazon.com/Wheelstand-Pro-compatible-Wheel-Stand/dp/B004AYM96A
Unsure about the rotation honestly, well if you're handy and want just the f1 rim there's this https://images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/02/uk-videogames/2011/dp/B006IR6NH8/image2_large._V140829823_.jpg it's the steel series srw s1, heavy modification needed since it doesn't plug into any wheel by default you just sort of turn it and it will turn by using accelerometers i guess. But already saw some people who adapted it to g25/27 etc.
Can't think of any other unit before that
The SteelSeries SRW-S1 is a bit of an oddball, since it's an accelerometer based wheel instead of a steering column, but it's far cheaper than most wheels and doesn't require pedals. It's pretty good as a bridge between a full blown wheel and a controller.
http://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Simraceway-SRW-S1-Gaming-Steering/dp/B006IR6NH8
I'll just mention stuff I've tried myself.
If money is no object, multiple monitors or at least headless ghosts are ironically useful in virtual desktop applications like Bigscreen. I run 3x2560x1600 in one large screen. Bigscreen has an update coming for multiple monitors too. Big physical screens are nice for spectators/multiplayer.
Until the wireless adapter comes out, a decently long displayport cable and longer USB cable running to the link box to cover the large play area and if you have an original Vive, the new 3-in-1 cable with a sleeve.
I've been looking at [this overhead pulley thing](https://www.amazon.com/MDW-Retractable-Management-Headset-Adhesive/dp/B01M6EB8DM/
) but I haven't actually tried it yet.
Two Vives would be good, you can run them off the same 2 base stations and partition the space with chaperone. I run a Rift and a Vive in the same room.
Get an assistant/intern/wife/child to help you set up/put things away, maintain everything, patch/update, find new content, etc...
Accessories:
You might want a good recording setup with mixed reality support as well.
e: stuff I forgot
This wheel has analog paddles and is pretty popular. I don't think it is in production anymore. Currently it looks expensive (new) but it went on clearance for ~$50 or something and second hand ones are out there. It is a "floating" wheel so there is no base, but people have mounted it to a G27 base, or even rigged it up to a PVC pipe rotating inside of another PVC pipe.
That's the whole reason I want the Ferrari F1 wheel, more buttons. This looks good, but it'll technically be a downgrade from my stock RS GT wheel, which is a no-go for me. I just want more buttons on the wheel.
I wish they'd make something like this for their bases.
That reminds me.... I got one of those steelseries F1 wheels that I would love to mount on a yoke. It has like a million buttons. Would make a sweet space freighter or TIE bomber/Ywing controller. If only I could find a yoke for cheap, no way I'm butchering a new one.
http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/02/uk-videogames/2011/dp/B006IR6NH8/image1_large._V140829819_.jpg
As in a game controller. I'm trying to control a DIY boat but instead of using a joystick I want to use a steering wheel.
Thanks, I appreciate the recommendation. Thrustmaster is certainly seeming like a good price-to-performance brand, though some have lackluster reviews it appears.
Why not both? ;D
http://www.amazon.ca/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-Challenge-Wheel-PS3/dp/B009CYMNDM is this the cheapest one with ffb?
http://www.thrustmaster.com/products/rgt-force-feedback-pro-clutch-edition
http://www.amazon.ca/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-Challenge-Wheel-PS3/dp/B009CYMNDM
FFB is "force feedback"
When I bought this it was only around $30. I'm not sure why the price has gone up so much, it's a pretty simple wheel but I've had a good experience with it.
$230 for Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Flight Stick is good price, cost $260 in Amazon.com:
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-HOTAS-Warthog-Flight-Stick/dp/B00CBVHJ00
What simulator are you flying in is a good start.
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I've heard a lot of whirlybird guys really like the VKB T-Rudders for flying.
For a stick you want something with low centering force. This can be achieved by getting something adjustable like a VPC base or by adding an extension to a stick like the TM Warthog
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As for collective and stuff, I am afraid I cant help. Seen a few guys build custom ones but as a fixed wing simmer I'm not familiar with any pre-made parts for that
Amazon has the stand alone stick for $249.99.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CBVHJ00/ref=s9_acsd_simh_hd_bw_bRCwGx_c_x_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-2&pf_rd_r=ZMW72T2G3CMES40N60QA&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=0baa781b-8e12-544e-a79e-db966c8b4415&pf_rd_i=402045011&th=1
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And the HOTAS for $365.36
https://www.amazon.com/ThrustMaster-2960720-Thrustmaster-Hotas-Warthog/dp/B00371R8P4/ref=lp_402050011_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1570841422&sr=1-3&th=1
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At those prices I couldn't recommend not saving up a bit and getting the upgrade.
Still one hell of a deal
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-Racing-Wheel-Legend-PlayStation/dp/B00FB5R1AQ/ref=sr_1_5?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1484629542&sr=1-5&keywords=racing+wheel
This is super cheap
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-Racing-Wheel-Legend-PlayStation/dp/B00FB5R1AQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1509985191&sr=8-1&keywords=ferrari+red+legend&dpID=41Iprv1E%252BvL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
But not terrible.
It does not do force feedback though.
Welp, I guess I'm spending more money.
I'm not seriously into racing games, I'm not going to spend $300 on a racing wheel so does anybody have one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-VG-Ferrari-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B00FB5R1AQ
I personally can't justify spending hundreds on a proper wheel and I don't play a lot, so I got one of these second hand for €30 works fine for my needs
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-Racing-Wheel-Legend/dp/B00FB5R1AQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_11?keywords=game+steering+wheel&qid=1562058986&s=gateway&sprefix=game+steer&sr=8-11
I'm really broke but I really want to prepare something for Dirt Rally. Do you guys think this is a safe buy? I know it says PS3 but in the latest reviews it says that they were able to get it working on PS4. I really want a steering wheel for Dirt Rally but most are $300+ canadian.
Would this work? https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-Racing-Wheel-Legend-PlayStation/dp/B00FB5R1AQ/ref=sr_1_5?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1491412909&sr=1-5&keywords=ps4+racing+wheel&refinements=p_36%3A-20000
I got this one a couple weeks ago as my first wheel and so far it's been worth it the money. I'll definitely want to upgrade when I have the money but I think the thrustmaster is a great starter.
What about something like this?
^^^^^^^^^^^.
Category | Item | Description | FFB | Rotation | Pedal Count| Compatibility | Pros | Cons | Price $US | Reviews | /r/SimRacing threads | Notes
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Wheel Pedal Combo|Thrustmaster VG | Basic wheel and pedal set with no clutch | No | Unknown | 2 | PC, PS3| 11 action buttons + D-Pad | No FFB, No Clutch, Plastic pedals | $69.99 | Amazon, | Link |
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Wheel Pedal Combo|Thrustmaster T500RS|A step up in pedals over the other thrustmaster wheels in the list. Very similar to the 300, this thrustmaster is bigger, faster and stronger than the rest of the wheels in their lineup and also comes with a three pedal setup and Paddles (H-shift sold separately)|Yes|1080°|3|PC, PS3, PS4|Powerful, accurate force feedback|Brake pedal not awesome but aftermarket mods exist|$587.18|Amazon, ISRTV, Engadget|Link|Varies from game to game. In the event of upward compatibility with PS4™ racing games, it will only be recognized in the game, and not in the console’s menus.
Here's the cheapest set of pedals i could find, other than that i cant find anything cheaper than $200 for a wheel
Get two t16000's and this racing wheel + pedals. You only really want the pedals from this set up but they are the best pedals you can get for cheap. The reason you get this wheel too is that if the pedals ever go, you can plug the t3pa's into that wheel. Someone might say that you should go with flight pedals instead, but you don't need the side to side rudder action that is the main function of flgith pedals and most flight pedals out there have serious drawbacks unless you shell out the big bucks. RIght stick x = yaw, y = pitch, z = roll. Left stick x = horizontal strafe, y = vertical strafe. Your pedals are set to forward and reverse strafe.
It's a great entry level wheel. I have one and really like it no real complaints other than the pedals are far too light.
I haven't bought them yet but I plan to upgrade to these pedals which are compatible with the T150.
check down at the bottom: https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T3PA-3-Pedal-Pedal-xbox-one/dp/B00KX75W9O?th=1
I bought one as my first wheel a few months ago and it gets the job done for me. Just yesterday I bought T3PA pedals to replace the ones that came with the wheel but that's only because the gas pedal started to feel lose on the original pedal set.
Keep in mind this is the only wheel I've ever sim-raced with so I can't compare it to anything else and I'm sure someone else here has far more knowledge and personal experience with different wheels but, if you're just looking for a cheap-ish wheel to try out sim-racing, I'd recommend it.
Like I said take this with a grain (handful) of salt because I'm still pretty new to sim-racing and sim-racing peripherals
The T3PA pedals on Amazon only mentions compatibility with the Xbox One, can you confirm?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00KX75W9O/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480089212&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=t3pa&dpPl=1&dpID=41Q6YtoFQ1L&ref=plSrch#immersive-view_1480089219529
Ok. If I decide I can spend the money I will go with the T300. Just to be sure this is the wheel you are talking about right? They also have the Ferrari version, but it looks like it is probably the same wheel with a horse on it XD
you mean this? https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-playstation-4/dp/B00O8B7D02/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1511817307&sr=1-1&keywords=T300+RS That one has the shifters on the wheel?
yeah, full setup
http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-playstation-4/dp/B00O8B7D02/
hmmm
This one? http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-playstation-4/dp/B00O8B7D02/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O8B7D02/]
Same link without the affiliate BS
I might, either that or a driving wheel and drive. The video I saw was pretty persuasive.
Personally I run with a G29 and a GT Omega Pro Cockpit RS9. I got the G29 2.5 years ago when they were £150 more expensive than they are now, and overall I spent about £400 on the cockpit and about £300 on the wheel.
Nowadays, you can probably get a G29 for £150-£200, and a low end racing stand for about the same, which would be in your budget.
G29: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Driving-Force-Racing-PlayStation/dp/B00Z0UWWYC
Thrustmaster T300RS: https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-playstation-4/dp/B00O8B7D02?th=1
(Bear in mind, the pedals are awful, very recommended to get another set, especially if you play other games that need a clutch)
Budget Racing Stand: https://www.gtomegaracing.com/wheel-stands/gt-omega-steering-wheel-stand
Racing Cockpit: https://www.gtomegaracing.com/gt-omega-racing-driving-simulator-cockpits/gt-omega-art-racing-simulator-cockpit-rs6
Providing you have a chair, that's probably the best you'll get on a budget for a wheel stand. It's a preorder though, so you will have to wait a week to get it.
Logitech \> Thrustmaster for wheels imo because they are so much more reliable. With TM, you're basically at a 50/50 whether it'll break in 2 years time, Logitech stuff run forever.
But overall, that's about $350, which is less than your budget. so if you want to spend the extra $200 on a higher end Racing Stand then it's obviously up to you. If I was in your position, I'd go with the G29 and the cockpit, but if you don't really play all that many racing games and this is just for GT, then I'd go G29 and the budget racing stand.
Sorry I'm an idiot, I may have forgotten to link the amazon address.
edit: while we are on the topic of T300.. has anyone tried insuring theirs with a warranty through SquareTrade? I am seeing a 3 year plan for "miscellaneous electronics" for $75, including accident protection ($50 without accident protection). Is this feasible to protect, as in, would they honor an insurance on this item?
edit 2: I just spoke with a sales specialist working with SquareTrade, and he informed me that even though they are an independent company, they are partners with Amazon, among other companies such as Target. With that said, he told me that if I wished to have this Amazon product insured by SquareTrade, I would need to speak with Amazon to see if they would offer the warranty plan. Doesn't make much sense to me, I'd imagine they could insure whatever they want, but that's what I was told.
Just the throttle. Keeping the Joystick for my own use but going to do a dual joystick setup. If you need a stick too I'd recommend this with a TM16000m. Sub $300 setup all together and the throttle alone is worth $270.
These are probably worth the extra $50 Thrustmaster VG T3PA-PRO 3-Pedal Add-On Set https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UVN21IU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_BiplDb60283HF
Looks like the other Thrustmaster bits are also discounted.
T3PA-Pro ($115): https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T3PA-PRO-3-Pedal-Add-xbox-one/dp/B00UVN21IU/ref=pd_bxgy_63_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=WP5WNF466F3F66YK2Q9Y&th=1
TX Servo Base ($192): https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Racing-Wheel-Servo-Base-Xbox/dp/B014US043A/ref=pd_bxgy_63_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=WP5WNF466F3F66YK2Q9Y&th=1
HERE WE GO!
Grand total: $750
It's really not that far off when you consider that Fanatec is broadly considered higher quality than Thrustmaster. I was ready to go all-in on Thrustmaster before I added it all up and realized I might as well keep saving and get the Fanatec stuff.
If you haven't already found a similar deal, Amazon is selling the T3PA Pros for $99.99 today! Jump on it!
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-VG-T3PA-PRO-3-Pedal-Add-Set/dp/B00UVN21IU/ref=sr_1_8?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1480366675&sr=1-8&keywords=thrustmaster
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300RS-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-Racing/dp/B015KJ0SES/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479783267&sr=8-1&keywords=300rs&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300RS-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-Racing/dp/B015KJ0SES/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479783267&sr=8-1&keywords=300rs&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-VG-T3PA-PRO-3-Pedal-Add-Set/dp/B00UVN21IU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1479783305&sr=8-2&keywords=T3PA
Has anyone tried using racing pedals for thrust in game? Specifically pedals like the Thrustmaster T3PA Pedals If you have done this, what kind of setup do you need for it to work?
Do you mean the T3PA-PRO pedals? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UVN21IU/
I've heard good things about them with the conical brake mod.
>NASCAR
lol, you can find a half-decent 900 degree wheel on craigslist for less than 100 bucks, i am willing to bet money if you go there and type in "Steering Wheel controller" one will pop up, its where I got mine, also look on local facebook "buy sell or trade" groups,
but if you want a fairly cheap new wheel, heres the current cheapest item on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA?th=1
Thanks Price History Bot!
Whatcha got on the following:
Thrustmaster TMX
Logitech g27
Logitech g920
Thrustmaster T150
> r/PSVR
Checkout the Thrustmaster T-150. It's $199 and I've been extremely happy with it. It also works for PS3 & PC.
The cheapest wheel worth getting is probably the Thrustmaster T150. You can typically find them around the $150 range, not sure why they're this high all of the sudden.
I just would wait until you can justify spending that before getting one - like say you want to play Euro a lot, or play some racing games/sims. I just wouldn't bother with a wheel (personally) unless it had force feedback.
http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1458511342&sr=1-1&keywords=ps4+force+feedback+wheel
Works with PC has force feedback and pedals
I use this wheel
It isn't horrifically expensive, and it's probably the best cheap (ish) wheel you can buy
For me, force feedback is an absolute must, it makes driving so much more immersive. You could find a decent wheel for cheaper, but it won't have force feedback.
Thanks for the PSA. I was going to buy this Thrustmaster T150 Force Feedback Racing Wheel for $77.99 from a just launched seller from the UK until I saw this. The racing wheel normally goes for $200 but is on sale for $129.99, so I had my doubts but his unresponsive to my message and this post helps clear things out.
Thrustmaster VG T150
Thrustmaster T150
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA
They're currently out of stock, but they were in stock a day or so ago. I feel your pain about spending. I've looked everywhere for a reasonably priced one. Just be glad you're not in Canada, that T150 is almost $300. I've used the DFGT before. It's a good wheel, but apparently this one is better
I miss a few bucks and i dont know how long the sale will last. But i found this one
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA
is this good too?
YO! If you are looking to get in to the T300 still, amazon has the T300RS basic edition listed incorrectly under the T150 right now, which makes it $211 w/tax shipped! Just ordered one!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014US02ZA/
https://www.joinhoney.com/shop/amazon/p/B014US02ZA/Thrustmaster-T150-RS-Racing-Wheel#price-history
I personally don't see an advantage just 180 more degrees of rotation.
You could get a servo base like this one and a wheel like this or the TMX and not use the pedals it comes with.
Ok Thanks. Looks like the Alcantara Bundle is around $500 at the moment. I guess i'll have to wait till it's on sale
This is the one I bought and I am loving it so far. It is basically plug and play. Even before I calibrated it was working fine.
>https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B015KJ0SES/ref=cm\_sw\_r\_cp\_api\_i\_6dUbDbS92W13B
Hey I have problem now with my G29. IF it starts it will shut down after like 20 seconds. then after another 5 seconds it will calibrate itself and then the circle continues.. Hopefully I have similar success with the Logitech support..
Hi there I have already ordered this wheel and should be here in 3 weeks due to the hurricanes I live in the Caribbean so this has to reach Miami where the skybox company is located in order to be shipped to me. So you are saying I don't need anyting else? well I ordered the gearbox also so its $600 so far I spent.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-Ferrari-Alcantara-Racing-Wheel/dp/B015KJ0SES/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1504832461&sr=8-3&keywords=thrustmaster+t300
Current deal is expired, but Amazon still has it up for $300, is out of stock but you can reserve the price and they will ship when it comes back in stock: https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-Ferrari-Alcantara-Racing-Wheel/dp/B015KJ0SES/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482040263&sr=8-1&keywords=t300+alcantara
Whoops wrong link https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-Ferrari-Alcantara-Racing-Wheel/dp/B015KJ0SES/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1481485408&sr=1-1&keywords=t300
https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Racing-Wheel-Apex-PlayStation-4/dp/B01LZ3AEFP what do you think about this one? But this id really the top of what I want to spend
The T300RS is $200 on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M1L2NRL
Here is an awesome deal on the T300RS GT
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL
I doubt it, see https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL
Do you perhaps have the GTE edition, which was supposed to have the pro pedals? GTE is $100+ more than GT?
It'sstill listedwith 1 in-stock. There were 20+ in-stock yesterday so they must be using this shipment to fill backorders.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=pd_ybh_a_7?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=TM6JM139XC5EJ8ZTDXEE 350 dollars for the GT edition, pull the trigger?
The servo/wheel I linked come in a bundle with pedals for $499, but if I buy them separately, I can get the better pedals for a $50 difference (better T3 pro pedals are $150 on their own)
The T300RS is also available for $347:
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1549332715&sr=8-2&keywords=thrustmaster%2Bt300%2Balcantara%2Bedition&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL
Thanks for the reply!
Okay so this is what I bought
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1500815622&sr=8-1&keywords=t300+gt+rs
I also have
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-TH8A-Add-Gearbox-Shifter-Xbox/dp/B005L0Z2BQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1500815656&sr=1-1&keywords=t3pa+shifter
and I have a GT Omega stand
https://www.amazon.com/Omega-Steering-suitable-LOGITECH-Driving-Shifter/dp/B072PPSJY3/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1500815674&sr=1-1&keywords=gt+omega+steering+wheel+stand
I've used them Twice
I'd be willing to give 20% off if you bought everything.
My choice would be T300RS GT (https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300-RS-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL)
But not Xbox compatible.
Not sure which country you are in, or what your actual budget is... But the T300RS GT is good value for money.
$380, and, jeez, these crappy pedals are still basically all plastic.
Considering the abysmal reliability record of the T300, the loud fan that won't shut up, zero quality pedal choices unless you use G27/29 pedals with an adapter or buy Fanatec pedals for the price of the wheel (and won't work in many games that only accept stock wheel setups), etc. I really don't see a reason to choose the Thrustmaster.
Thanks for your post ! Since I created this post I saw some new wheel that might be cool. Right now I'm looking over :
https://www.amazon.ca/Thrustmaster-T300-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=pd_cp_63_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Y38YKBPK1V3WBAJDGN6A
or
https://www.amazon.ca/Thrustmaster-T500RS-Racing-Wheel-Playstation-3/dp/B004J6KRD6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494250893&sr=8-1&keywords=thrustmaster+t500
or should I keep G29 ?
Has anyone read up on the new T300rs GT? What's the better deal?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M1L2NRL/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_H2IpybZ3QJ0GK
Dirt Rally is about as awesome as it comes IMO. I f'ing LOVE that game. Be prepared though...if you get a steering wheel and a seat, you're looking at around 400-600 bucks.
Driving Chair:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077PMH7DL/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1W6FFIBXHB164
Steering Wheel:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XP1JZ53/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Hmm... no pedals, but they do have the Logitech G29 at 6:00PM Eastern:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Z0UWWYC/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00Z0UWWYC&linkCode=as2&tag=asaje-20&linkId=b6c5ca7a15eafef68be09deb3923deb5
And this Thrustmaster at 2:05PM Eastern:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O8B7D02/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00O8B7D02&linkCode=as2&tag=asaje-20&linkId=436f3b75a5b6b8745081a7dc95cbf28e
https://www.amazon.ca/Hori-Apex-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B01LZ3AEFP/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=7VSWOQ4PMA8U&keywords=hori+racing+wheel&qid=1556295502&s=gateway&sprefix=hori+racin&sr=8-1