(Part 3) Best safes & money handling products according to redditors

you are either frequenting high end places with free alcohol or getting ripped off if you are spending banknotes at a club. every stripper at the place I eat lunch has one of these
https://www.amazon.com/Cassida-C200-Sorter-Counter-Roller/dp/B0051QAN3M/

https://www.amazon.com/Jssmst-GB001bl-s-Locking-Small-Steel/dp/B06XJFGH1V

$10. You can remove the cash tray and have more space inside.

You know those paper tubes that coins come in from the bank? You put those in the machine, and then pour change in it, and it automatically sorts the change and fills the correct tubes instead of you filling the tubes by hand.

They're awesome, and they're expensive as hell. This is the "go-to" automatic roller, it goes for about $200, but if you have so much change that you need an automatic roller, it'll probably pay for itself pretty quick since banks will exchange rolled coins for cash for free (no 9+% fee from coinstar).

Alternatively, they also make $12 coin funnels.

Pen makes a mark that turns a certain color if it reacts with a starch. US currency has no starch, but our paper does.

Example: http://www.amazon.com/Counterfeit-Money-Detector-Marker-Buy1get1FREE/dp/B001F02XAY

All US Bills are printed with magnetic ink. It is actually designed to help with counting large stacks of bills and no so much for counterfeit testing, but it can still be useful.

If you have a small but strong magnet, such as a neodymium magnet, you can lift a real bill - not enough to make it fly off a table, but you can definitely tell if it is magnetic.

If you really want to freak someone out, you can pull out one of these bad boys.

The pens are relatively useless.

This is a scam.

You deposit the check, your account balance goes up. You pay out the money. The check comes back fake. Your account balance goes down. You're out the money.

It's not so much that the check gets cancelled, but due to various laws the banks have to make the money available to you in a certain time frame, but the check won't necessarily be returned as invalid in that time frame.

If the check was merely cancelled it would be an awful scam, because that means the check was real and you can find out who the person at the other end actually is. But the check is fake, and so it becomes much harder to track down the scammer.

>so what information should I collect to protect myself

Cold hard cash. If they're sending personal movers for the item, tell the buyer to send them the check and exchange the computer for cash when they come to pick it up. They will immediately back out. Because there are no movers. Nobody will show up for the computer.

On the off chance they don't back out, order a counterfit bill pen.

https://www.amazon.com/Counterfeit-Money-Bill-Detector-Markers/dp/B07HBKDD3K/

Venden bolígrafos que cambia de color dependiendo de si es de verdad o falsificado como este.

You could consider an NVR lockbox like this one.

Some things I've found:

1. More cameras are better than fewer, even at lower resolutions and frame rates to save disk space.
   
2. Cat5/6 cable is cheap; you time running them is not. So always run more parallel cables than you need, in case one fails (chewed by rodents, etc.).
   
3. Definitely use external IR illuminators like this one, which are much better than the built-in camera ones, which are then disabled. This also means fewer false motion alerts from dust, mist, and spiders, which are attracted to the IR LEDs in the cameras.
   
4. Before mounting a camera permanently, test its view during the day and night using a temporary clamp or shallow screws.
   
5. Read this wiki, especially the part on securing your home network. Although the site focuses on Blue Iris, the wiki pages contain a lot of great advice.
   
   Good luck!

That's what I was thinking. I started logging my indies into a spreadsheet a few months ago as a way of discouraging new purchases and realized that I have a ridiculous amount of stuff. I have since been trying to find a way to store them so that I can see what I have at a glance and hopefully remind myself that I have plenty.

I have one more idea that I haven't pulled the trigger on yet because it's not really cost effective. I found some clear boxes that are designed to hold coin collections. I figured a box that will hold a 30mm coin would be idea for a 30mm 5g jar. They're like $10-13 per box, though. Uh... These guys

They are using something like these to hide cash inside the wheel wells or under their bumpers.
Many stupid drug dealers and users do this because they think the police don't know about these products or their predictable actions.

A closed CF-18 will survive a lot of things, and there's no shortage of videos showing them being dragged behind a car, thrown out windows, and so on. But if the laptop's open, the screen is vulnerable.

My cousin is a police officer and says their Toughbooks' biggest nemesis is the aluminum clipboard officers work with. When clipboard hits screen, screen never wins.

I'll try and answer all your questions, via this entire thread, in this one post. And maybe give some extra info? I don't, this might turn into a wall of text. I'll do my best to not do that.

I own pretty much every possible way to make spoofed amiibos. From cards, to coins, to the PowerSaves (find it at GameStops), and also the N2 Elite.

Cheaper Alternatives?

• The cheapest way to make amiibos is, and will probably always "stickers". It is a round sticker, you zap it with an Android device, stick it on something (like a piece of paper), label it. Bam done. **You can buy and do more that increase the price here, but even still it is the cheapest path.
  
  
• The next on the list from cheapest to cost the most is NFC tags. With both tags and stickers, make sure they are the right type. Zappy the card like the sticker, label, done. **Like the sticker, you can go on to make custom cards.
  
  
• PowerSaves . This is something you can find from Datel. You want whatever package comes with the USB portal. This is how you load the puk via PC. So...you need a PC. The puk can only "be" one amiibo at a time. Via the program that you install, you can change it as you need...again with PC. The PowerSaves should not cost more then $30. The downside is the puk will burn out. How soon? No idea. You might get over 100 uses, or you might get 10. GameStop seems to know about this, and from what I've heard, will replace if you return. You can also buy extra puks, I've seen them on eBay. They range from cheap to cheap.
  
  
• That brings us to the N2. If you really want to go this way, there are 2 options: Just the N2 puk, or the N2 puk and the USB portal device that connects to a PC. You technically can use an android phone to load the puk, I just found it to be too slow for my liking. So I bought the portal. The package deal on this is around 80$. The pro: You can have a lot of amiibos on this (like 200). The con: You need to print of a list of the amiibos. You have to cycle through them each time you want to go from a certain one to the next. You do not have to have the puk full. So if you only have say 5 on there, it only cycles them 5.
  
  The PC program vs phone for the n2 is just... I can load the n2 much faster with the PC. I can make a list, and it is loaded in just seconds. With my phone, I have to add one at a time, navigating to the bins each time. Takes to long. I only use my phone to add 1, when checking bins.
  
  You asked if there was a battery in the n2. There is not from what I can remember when mine fell apart. Just like there is no battery in amiibos. How does it know what one to be on? Don't know, that is the magic of the N2.
  
  Buy it off Wish? That is a big dice roll. If you do, let us know how it works out. I'd not take the chance. There isn't much inside the puk, so you saving a ton of money might just end with you getting an empty puk :3
  
  What should you really do? If you are asking us...well... do you have an android phone that can write NFC? If so, I'd go with making NFC stickers. Get as many stickers as you will need (I have bought these exact ones, from this seller, many times now) and get this coin saver and case . I have an entire set where I zapped the sticker, stuck in inside the coin, and just wrote what it was on the blank side. The added case keeps them in check.
  
  I use my N2 now just to check bins (as I said), if it works right, I make a coin.
  
  Back when I played Zelda, I used the N2 a lot more, because you can also create copies of amiibos, that the game would read each use. So ... I did at one time have 200 "different" Guardian amiibos to gain a toooooooon of arrows :P
  
  If you have more questions, asks. I'll do my best.

How big are we talking?

A quick Amazon search show's this 4x6 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IAUA9RK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T2_96BuzbQTT4SJ8

I bought some of these: Coin Boxes

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I cut/folded some index cards to act as dividers between the different ship types, so its easy to open it, thumb through the tabs, and find what you need...

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I use the plastic dial covers and I store them in there as well (they fit perfectly)

I used coin capsules after reading it on a bgg thread. I got 400(enough to cover the expansion too) for $18ish on Amazon. Not as fancy but WAY cheaper.

I used these

Prettyia 400 Pieces Clear Coin Capsules Containers Boxes Holders 21mm https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SMQL86P/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_7iZzDbMH62NFG

LPT: Go to a good hardware store, and have a plain key cut for your car. By plain, I mean just flat metal. Most likely your vehicle will have a passive anti theft system in it which reads a chip in your key to start it.

Then get one of these (https://www.amazon.com/Magnetic-Hide-Key-Holder-Extra-Strong/dp/B003SZ545K).

Put metal key and a cotton ball (for rattling) in the key holder and spend a few minutes locating a place on your car where you can stick that. You'll be amazed the number of places that are out of sight, and ferrous metal, where you can squirrel that.

Now, for the future, you have a key which will always be on the vehicle, that only you know where it is. It will open your door but won't start it (no chip).

All my vehicles have one. Bailed me out a few times.

For starters it may be worth picking up one of these steel ledger seed kits. That's a pretty solid option to have since you could combine that with your fire safe or safety deposit box plan to add an extra layer of protection.

The main things to consider (imo at least) are:

1. What are the odds that somebody gains access to this without your permission
   
   
2. Is this spot viable long term, for example if you ended up in a coma 5 years would you be able to come back for it? Would it be safely hidden all that time? Is there a high probability the backup gets destroyed in that time?
   
   
3. If somebody was looking is this somewhere they'd look?
   
   A deposit box pretty comfortably checks those 3 boxes (provided you're able to pay years in advance on it) and there's a pretty insignificant chance of that ever being compromised unless you're a serious criminal or something then of course the authorities would access it and take the contents I'm sure.
   
   A safe of any kind in your residence would protect it in certain scenarios but if your house was robbed or something of that nature that's exactly where they'd be most interested in looking.
   
   I won't give any specific examples of what I've personally done but hopefully this helps you with your approach to it. The best methods will probably be something you cook up on your own, tailored to your own circumstances, rather than something posted online for the world to see.

This is the one I have

Edit: Oops picked the wrong product. Fixed to the one I actually bought. They look very similar

$4.44 is a small price to pay to not loose $290 :(

But myself I'd do ebay or something, Because the muns are E-Trans'd before you even send the damn thing. And you can't counterfeit electronic money... as easily as real money i guess.

I used to have this problem, but no longer.

Get yourself one of these and some of these and up to 4 pens/pencils (there's even a pouch under the pen holders you can keep extra items in, I keep mechanical pencil leads and a full eraser in there).

Now whenever I have a thought I need to remember or need to hash out an idea I just pull this out of my pocket, scribble it out (unlined paper means you can also draw diagrams + doodles ftw!) And I can just put it back in my pocket when I'm done. Minimal effort required.

I even got one of these and clip the notepads into it so I always have a hard writing surface and can write while standing/walking.

The Secret Service is the gov't entity that deals with counterfeit bills, fyi.

We use this at my restaurant, with zero issues.

Verify the contents are authentic.

Don't put it in the bank (unless it's a safety deposit box) and keep it to yourself.

TLDR: Metal coin with a recess on the back. You are supposed to place a folded paper wallet in there and cover it with a tamper-evident sticker. If the sticker is torn, you know someone looked at the paper.

Something like this might serve the same (but less fun) purpose: http://smile.amazon.com/MMF-Industries-2362010N06-12-Inch-Tamper-Evident/dp/B000J05F06

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http://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-2017F-Water-Chest/dp/B000GB1VMO/

Like this? https://www.amazon.com/Master-Lock-Bluetooth-Mount-5441D/dp/B071NQ9G3Q/ref=asc_df_B071NQ9G3Q/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198059871545&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7111029514618622260&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=t&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9022388&hvtargid=pla-414462219797&psc=1

I thought about a similar thing, printing the face and name of every hero and putting them into coin holders like these, so you can reach into bags and pull out heroes, villains, and environments. It would be cool, but take a lot of time.

AmazonBasics Portable Security Case Lock Box Safe, Combination Lock, Large https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077K3FJHC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_kAGgDbXXWHDTF

If a bomb were to go off in my house, this would keep my things from being burned! I could put my Change Jar in there!

As far as sleeves go, you can save quite a bit by keeping your player cards in a 3-ring binder with card pages. I recently unsleeved all of mine and made the switch to one, and it's been a great change. I still sleeve my active deck, but the convenience of finding cards easily and being able to browse through them is fantastic.

Chaos tokens have been a bit of a struggle. I originally used: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0796NFJTT/ which did NOT get scratched, but the lids started breaking after ~10 full campaigns. I asked people for advice here about premium tokens and was recommended these by several people: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B001LF832A/ which were quite disappointing. Those scratched very easily and became foggy quite quickly, so I've moved on to these: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CQFPK3L/ but have only ran through 1-2 campaigns with them, so can't comment yet about how they'll hold up.

50 x NTAG215 NTAG 215 NFC Stickers 100% Guaranteed to Work Perfectly with TagMo! (45 Pieces + 5 Bonus!) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071ZZTT6T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Ojz3DbHDMSSVB

Coin Capsules Round Plastic Coin Holder Case with Storage Organizer Box for Coin Collection Supplies (27 mm, 100 Pieces) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CNTTVF9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Vlz3DbNKBS6RK

I also used Tagmo and NFC Bank.

No bad ones yet!

I agree. An attacker's possession of my wallet is unconcerning to me, except for the replacement cost of the wallet. I would add one thing to your setup: Tamper evident bags (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000J05F06/). That way you can feel better when returning to your safe deposit box that no one has seen those words.

I have a pad of graph paper on a clipboard that has some storage spot. This isn't mine, but it's close to the style, so you get a picture

https://www.amazon.com/Saunders-Recycled-Aluminum-Cruiser-Mate-Clipboard/dp/B001E65JZ0/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1504278763&sr=8-9&keywords=clipboard+with+storage

This is the best, cheapest option imo.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078ZHRQN9

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyaXxElM3aw

https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt

I have this: it won't stop a dedicated thief but keeps out kids. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077K3FJHC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Z-M7Cb2W3P5GE

Prettyia 400 Pieces Clear Coin Capsules Containers Boxes Holders 21mm for Quacks of Quedlinburg

Ioffersuper 50pcs 25mm Applied Clear Round Cases Coin Storage Capsules Holder Round Plastic (50 pcs) for Arkham Horror the Card Game.

I believe that is nickel size for Quacks of Quedlinburg and quarter size for Arkham Horror the Card Game. The above sites may not be available, but those sizes were perfect for both games.

Do you have the one with the separate invoice compartment? That looks great!

https://www.amazon.com/Saunders-Recycled-Cruiser-Mate-21017-Clipboard/dp/B001E65JZ0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1525930248&sr=8-2&keywords=saunders+11017

That's why you store seeds in something like this:

https://www.amazon.com/MMF-Industries-2362010N06-12-Inch-Tamper-Evident/dp/B000J05F06

No one can "peek" without you knowing.

Nice!
https://www.amazon.com/ColdTi-with-Numerical-Punch-Set/dp/B078ZHRQN9

TIL. thank you

We have machines in the US too. They are just not very common from what I've seen. Pens are cheaper, and companies are even cheaper.


These 3 styles are the ones I've seen most often. Maybe not the exact model, but definitely these around a lot. The UV one seems to be the most common, lots of grocery stores around me have them. But I went to Target, or some store like that, (can't remember exactly) and they had the actual scanner where they had to feed each bill in 1 at a time. It's so fucking slow.

https://www.amazon.com/AccuBanker-D63-Counterfeit-Ultraviolet-Watermark/dp/B002JGKTLS/

https://www.amazon.com/Cassida-Quattro-Orientation-Automatic-Counterfeit/dp/B017OHZV1E/

https://www.amazon.com/Royal-Sovereign-Ultraviolet-Magnetic-Counterfeit/dp/B001ACVO1Q/

These are perfect for dials.

LOT OF 5 - SINGLE ROW 2x2 STORAGE BOXES For Coins in Plastic, Vinyl, Paper and Cardboard Flip Holders https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0722YDXJ5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_yHh.BbEKCAZ0N

I like the idea of a passphrase that I can back up in metal, ie:
https://www.amazon.com/Cryptocurrency-Indestructible-compatible-KeepKey-hardware/dp/B07F2ZMTD2/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?keywords=metal+bitcoin+wallet&qid=1564245226&s=gateway&sr=8-7

I guess my main hangups are A) the private key not being completely in my control, and B) if recovery or access is at all limited by A.

You have a hw wallet I take it? Which one and what are your likes/dislikes?

Edit: I meant seed phrase, not pass phrase

Easiest: Anchor a lockbox a few inches away with keys

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https://www.amazon.com/Master-Lock-Bluetooth-Mount-5441D/dp/B071NQ9G3Q

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01F46ZQUI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_9yaADbZGZ4RWT

Does the same task of sorting coins into the right piles and rolls for easy counting.

But anyway, since you clearly are not interested/unable to google: http://www.amazon.com/Cassida-C200-Sorter-Counter-Wrapper/dp/B0051QAN3M/ref=sr_1_7?s=office-products&ie=UTF8&qid=1325268402&sr=1-7

There's a slightly more expensive one that also counts your coins.

I bought one of these and put it up and underneath my bumper. I'll never have to call anyone. http://www.amazon.com/Magnetic-Hide-Key-Holder-Extra-Strong/dp/B003SZ545K

These are 25mm (1 in ≈ 25.4mm) https://www.amazon.com/Hicarer-Capsules-Container-Collection-Supplies/dp/B07CQFPK3L

I'm looking for something similar. I would recommend against any plastic molded SentrySafe or other similar brand.

I had a bad experience with a very nice "solid" name brand one. As far as I know it affects pretty much all the relatively cheap plastic sealed ones in general.

The hollow plastic body is filled with a moistened drywall like substance. This works fine if/while the plastic body is completely sealed. If it cracks on the outside it would still be ok.
The problem is that the mold injection point is often on the inside and when it's not a perfect seal, you now have something more like a terrarium for your documents.

You will see references to it "trapping" humidity and not having a good seal around the lid to keep moisture out. This is actually the complete opposite of the problem. What happens is you have a great seal around the lid on the better quality units, but the moisture is leaking into the interior from inside the hollow body and because of the great seal, can't get out.

See: https://www.amazon.com/review/RJS6DIWDHJGZG/ref=cm_cr_dp_title?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00KOO599O&channel=detail-glance&nodeID=228013&store=hi

another:https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=46&t=405423

more:http://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-2017F-Water-Chest/product-reviews/B000GB1VMO/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_viewpnt_rgt?filterByStar=critical&pageNumber=1


Additional comments:
At first I put everything in ziploc bags.... but apprently i had less than perfect sealing bags, moisture just went into the bags also after months and months. That's when I knew there was more to it than trapping moisture in my airconditioned house. These type of firesafes would have moisture problems in Phoenix.

I haven't' spent enough time to find a proper alternative but I definitely don't want anything that doesn't detail what's inside the body.