(Part 2) Best camp kitchen equipment according to redditors

Fuck. I think I ordered the wrong one

Also a good option, the banana holder. I know there’s one out there that looks even more dildo like. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002A8HSXW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_vNJWDbENDCKKN

The 100% best solution is to have a propane burner along with a High Pressure Hose so that you can use normal propane tanks that you'd get for your grill. Then keep maybe 3 of those full and ready to go and that will maintain your ability to use your stocks for a good while. (Note: I didn't dig too deep into direct compatibility of those two items. I just listed them as an example so you could see what I was talking about.)

Barring that... it's a question of shelf life vs cost. Obviously MRE's would be one of the better options, but they're pricey and it's best to store them in cool environments which may not be doable for everyone. Mainstay 2400 Bars are available at Walmart for $5 apiece and are fantastic for BOB's due to their hardiness, but surviving on those for any length of time would probably be miserable.

Dropping into normal foods... yeah, a well stocked and rotated pantry is the way to go.

• Peanut Butter is high calorie, flavorful, and a thing most people can use regularly anyway. If you have forewarning you can try to snag extra bread from the grocery store. Barring that, YouTube how to make bread and get busy in the days leading out to the outage. I think whole wheats tend to last a bit longer, and I think things like wrapping the loaf in cling wrap then sealing it in Tupperware can help, but I'm not a baker so I can't say for sure.
  
  
• Canned meats are a good call as the next in lineup. Tuna is obvious, but you can get canned chicken as well. Add some crackers into the mix and whatever seasoning you like (I'm a fiend for Lemon Pepper ) and those are meals on their own, though a bit pricey. Spam and tinned ham, while less pleasant uncooked, are also edible.
  
  
• The good canned soups are fine right out of the can. Obviously they're less pleasant not being warmed, but that's actually something you can probably remedy to a degree just by having tea candles under them. There are also several camping stoves that do not require propane, and you can of course just have some sterno on hand too.
  
  
• After that... well almost anything canned can work. Refried beans or Baked Beans cold out of the can are edible if not the most pleasant way to eat them. Good return on calories for those, and if you have a large family they are available in #10 Cans which will save you a lot on cost. Canned Veggies can be added in to other meals without heating, though the calorie returns on them make them inefficient. Canned/Jarred Fruit on the other hand can be a delicious morale lifter.
  
  
• Bars of Velveeta keep for a surprising amount of time in the pantry, and there are about 2240 calories per full bar of them. That's another great option for throwing on crackers. Crack open a jar of salsa and add a bit to each cracker and that's tasty eating.
  
  
• While it's not my favorite thing ever, Summer Sausage is around 1600 calories for a pounds of it and is shelf stable for a while when unopened I believe, though check the packaging to be safe. I believe Hickory Farms Cheese/Sausage lasts for months, though if you're not eating it regularly I don't know how feasible it is to have on hand consistently or in time for a disaster like this.
  
  
• While the ideas could probably keep going, I'll end with trail mix. It's easily obtainable at a lot of locations, includes nuts, candy, and fruit so it's palatable, and tends to have a fairly high caloric return. Add in other snack foods like beef jerky, chips, and candy/energy/protein bars (also available at a lot of locations) and it should be fairly easy to find enough ways to get your daily calories in in the short term without needing to heat things up.

Original AK mags for sale on Amazon...

I've recently bought a lot of this stuff after doing a good amount of research. Here are my recommendations:

Tent - I would get an Alps tent if you want a good value tent but aren't as worried about weight. How many people will you be going with?

Sleeping Bag - I have this sleeping bag which I absolutely love, but I haven't been able to find it online since I bought it. It packs as small as down sleeping bags but costs a fraction of the price and will still keep you warm in 30 degree weather (which it's done for me).

Pack - I just bought the Osprey Volt 75L which I think is a great value even though I haven't used it yet. I got it for $140 on amazon and the 60L version is less expensive than that. I'm not sure if this pack is bulletproof but it has great reviews and Osprey products are known for their high quality.

Cooking- I use this pot which works perfectly with a pocket rocket. I'm not sure what you mean by fire making equipment but if it's not below freezing or at a high altitude, the gas canisters are the most efficient and reliable way to cook food. Also, they're extremely light. If you're using a fire to cook you'll need a heavier duty pot/pan.

Clothes - I just look for good deals and buy when I find one. Get a good shell that's waterproof and breathable. I have a Marmot Nano AS Jacket that I love. Just make sure you have a baselayer that wicks sweat away and other layers that can pack down. DON'T USE ANY COTTON CLOTHES!

Tools - Other than a knife I have found any tools that are useful for their weight. If you have a solid knife you should be good.

Misc - Here's other things in my list for camping/backpacking:

Sleeping Pad - I use the Alps Sleeping Pad. You definitely need a sleeping pad if you're camping in colder weather for the insulating properties. You'll lose a significant amount of heat through the cold hard ground without a pad. The Alps pad is a little heavier but they're very durable and a great value.

Paracord - It's always useful to have paracord for different things.

Water Filter - You need this if you're going to the backcountry. It's not realistic to bring enough water with you for a weeklong trip. I have use this MSR water filter and the Sawyer Squeeze. The MSR filter costs more, but works very well and is fairly durable. The Sawyer Filter weighs almost nothing, but it's a little more difficult to use and definitely more difficult if you're trying to filter large quantities of water.

Not everyone will agree with everything on my list, but I try to find the best value in my gear. I look for the best value in terms of price, quality, weight, and packability. There are higher quality options that weigh less but cost more. There are other lower quality options that cost less. You'll have to decide what your balance is, but this should be a good list to get you started.

This grill from UCO/Amazon is similar, check it out

http://www.amazon.com/UCO-Grilliput-Portable-Camping-Grill/dp/B000980JMW

Get one of these, a cheap plastic container that holds a couple of slices of bread, and another small (2-3 oz.) container with a lid. It just takes a minute or two to throw a banana in the container (not necessary, but handy), a couple of slices of bread in their bin, and a nice scoop of peanut butter in the little container. Throw them in your bag and you have delicious sandwich makings. I used to live on these for breakfast between swim practice and 1^st hour. Protein, potassium, whole grain bread... yummm.

You're gonna need a saddle bag to dangle this off of:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009PUR72/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_f..ADbQWDW2RN

Bring the refrigerator/microwave with you! A small cooler with an ice pack will last until lunch and keep things cold.
I don't remember where but recently there was a thread that featured this amazing product which will keep warm things warm/heat up your lunch. All you need is a plug in.

Edit: If no plug in, get a Thermos with a wide mouth for soups/stews/yummy warm winter treats. If you prime it with hot water your lunch will stay hot.

Facebook Hiking Gear Flea Market is a good place to start. You can put out feelers for gear you are looking for.

Gear Trade is also another good place for used gear.

Also, you can't be so vague if you want actual advice. Where do you live? How tall/weight? Where will you be doing most of your hiking/backpacking?

You're going to want lightweight gear if you're hiking/backpacking mostly, but don't get obsessed with the idea of lightweight until you understand what gear works for you. Here is a quick buffer off the top of my head.

Backpack - Size? How long will you be out? Best idea is to find an REI or sporting good place near you and try on some different packs. If you find one you like, look online for the best price.


Tent - Just you? Multiple People? Weather Conditions? Don't just buy the $50 Coleman because it's cheap, it also weighs 5x as much as something $50-$100 more. You might want to save the $, but your back will not be thanking you when you've been hiking as day with that dead weight. MSR, North Face, Big Agnes, TarpTent, Kelty, alps mountaineering, ETC. They all make quality tents, just look around for deals, yo.


Sleeping Bag - Down/Synthetic, what's the temp looking like? Too much variety here. Just remember, down will be lighter, but useless if wet. They make a lot of good down with water protection these days, but they can get $$$. Synthetic will be heavy, but can be trashed.


Mat - Need basic ground protection or something to also lock in warmth? Therm a Rest makes a variety of great mats. The SOlite and Z lite SOL are two great ones for the price. The more comfortable you want to be, the more $ you'll spend.


Cook Stove/Fuel - Will you be cooking? How much? Multi purpose eating utensil? Want something cheap, Amazon has these great Chinese made cook stoves with built in ignition that are super cheap They'll screw on to most mix fuel canisters that can be found at any sporting goods place.


Water - Reservoir (camelback), how much water will you need? Safe water sources? Filter/Aquamira? Dromedary if water is scarce? Sawyer Squeeze is becoming big and so are life straws. I personally use a Katadyn Hiker Pro, but its a bit bulky and heavy for lightweight backpacking.


Food - How long you going to be out? What is most energy/weight efficient? Packaging is bad, mmkkay. Break things down to conserve weight.


Clothing - No Cotton unless you want something nice to sleep in. Synthetic and blends. They wick and are light. Unless you're going to be out for an extended trip, embrace your backpacking lifestyle and leave the extras at home (Other than undies, bring an extra) Socks - Good socks are a must (Darn Tough, Smartwool are great brands). 2 pairs of socks, one to hike in, one to wear at camp or if others get ruined/too funky.

First Aid - Unless someone else is carrying one, always try to have one with you. You can make your own with simple bandages, aspirin, tape, wrap, etc. Or you can buy a pre assembled one online or at a store. New Skin is great for foot blisters, so is duct tape.

Random - Throw some paracord, karabiners, replacement clips and straps, a knife, bandana, compass (If you're in the backcountry), maps, whistle, and whatever you're favorite beverage may be (pack out, my friend.)

That's all I could think of in 10 minutes as a good bugger, hope it helps.

Snow Peak Trek Combo Titanium set.

• 900 & 1,400mL pots
  
  
• lids that double as skillets
  
  
• nest inside each other, the 900 fits a 250g LPG canister and stove
  
  
• Trek 700 pot/mug (sold separately) nests inside the 900
  
  Titanium is more scratch resistant and will survive high heat - melting point is 1,668°C versus 660°C for aluminum - but if you want to save money, Snow Peak makes an aluminum version of the Trek cookset for about half the price.
  
  EDIT - there are a tonne of high-quality off-brand/knock-offs floating around if you're on a budget.
  
  Check these out:
  
  
• [Budget GSI Dualist (Mini-Review)](https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingGear/comments/4r54zt/budget_gsi_dualist_minireview/
  )
  
  
• G4Free 4-piece Nesting Cookware Set
  
  
• Outop 2-piece Hiking Backpacking Pot & Pan Set
  
  I found the latter on sale for $3.08 shipped (!!!)...hasn't arrived but will review it when it gets here.

Whatever stove you get you should get this camp oven to use on top of it. Muffin mix and water turn into gloriously moist treats. Baked pasta. It's only $20-$30 and worth every penny. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0009PURJA/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491076772&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=coleman+camp+oven&dpPl=1&dpID=41qOyhYDuQL&ref=plSrch

PEREGRINE Banana Saver, Yellow https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002A8HSXW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_rHE3DbC46P3FG

This is the thing you need. Looks stupid, works perfectly. I love mine. I can throw a banana in my backpack or pannier or purse and have it be in pristine condition when I arrive at work. Rarely find a banana it doesn't fit. Don't go with the other designs for this purpose, they're no good.

Personally I prefer tactical spork over polymer spork.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0030IRKHA/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=sayuncle-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as4&creativeASIN=B0030IRKHA&adid=19G42H90QM4TBQWS7T6A

The reliability of those 'tuperware' sporks can't be compared to steel. The quality of the tactical spork is obvious if you can get one in your hand.

First off, your clothes/shoes won't dry inside a plastic bag. They need somewhere to transfer the moisture to. Keeping them loose in your sleeping bag is an absolutely awful idea. The moisture will transfer from your clothes to the synthetic/down insulation of the bag - effectively ruining its insulating power until it dries. If you are serious about going light, check out the quilts made by hammockgear.com. They are a good price and very light. Your stove options are either a light canister stove ( I use this baby at only seven bucks ) or to make your own denatured alcohol stove out of a soda/catfood can. Both work, and the stoves are easy to make. That will save you buku weight. For a tent, you need to look no farther than a Henry Shires tarptent. I personally like the notch and the contrail. Both are well under your budget, are incredibly well made and are less than 2 lbs.

It's made to look like a classic Coleman camping mug.

You kids need to get to the outdoors more...

I've had really good luck cooking in a Coleman camp oven. It's cheap, foldable, and bakes well and evenly.

https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000016462-Camp-Oven-13-5/dp/B0009PURJA/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=coleman+camp+oven&qid=1562969247&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-3

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Edit: And I see someone has already linked to this, sorry. It really does work well.

I'm in the same situation as you, traveling for work that can span the 2-3 days to little more then a week.

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Tried various things, here are my findings.

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Found that Wulong, Puerh and Greens that can handle some heats works best. While at home, I am more "scientific" in my approach, but on the road I try to keep things simple with easier to brew stuff. Usually bring 3-4 bags of loose leaf. Darjelings and other blacks does not work at all for me in this context, but that might be only very personal.

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I usually put all my tea gear in my checkedin luggage, never had a single problem that way. Made it with carry on as well without issue.

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I do cold and hot brew. Cold brew is really great while traveling. I get it out in a cup in the morning, then start a new one for next day. In my case, traveling usually comes with time zone switch and late meetings / late social activities so it's an easy way to have something ready in the morning when I wake up and prepare for the day ahead.

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For hot brew, I always travel with my foldable kettle bought online --> https://www.amazon.com/Gourmia-Travel-Foldable-Electric-Kettle/dp/B01M2CARAV

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For my brewing vehicle, I work with a Nalgene bottle --> https://www.amazon.ca/Nalgene-Mouth-Bottle-Purple-1-Pint/dp/B003QRWRAA/

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And an adapter filter for the bottle --> https://www.amazon.com/GSI-Outdoors-73020-H2JO/dp/B000PGPGQC ( I usually put the tea in the bottle under the filter, not directly within the filter)

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It's about that... found some good triangular shaped tea bags with good tea in them and carry some to add in my bottle from time to time in the day with cold / hot watter. Also worked directly with loof tea and the adapter, but it's more work to get it clean and everything while on the go in events... --> http://camellia-sinensis.com/en/tea/bags

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So I think that's about it for my cheet sheat :)

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Ciao

Not exactly. I have a typical, generic stir fry template (unless I'm trying to do something specific).

Heat a little oil till almost smoking, throw in some dried whole chiles and stir fry until they toasted and are smelling good.

Throw in the velveted meat, cooking till the color is right (need not be totally cooked through at this point), add some minced ginger and garlic and fry another 30 seconds or so until aromatic, then pull the meat and chiles and set aside.

Add whatever veggies and stir fry till just shy of tender-crisp (if you have a lid, another technique you can use--depending on the veggies involved--is adding a small bit of water and putting a lid to the wok to encourage steaming).

Add the meat back in along with whatever sauce is being used, and continue to cook until everything's happy.

My usual finishing sauce is a combination of soy sauce, water, sugar, rice wine, toasted sesame seed oil, corn starch.

There is a FANTASTIC youtube channel for American Chinese featuring an old hand that knows what the fuck he is doing. I will try to find it for when you I get home from work, and will edit it into this comment if I do.

EDIT - The chiles are totally optional. You can leave them out altogether, leave them in but eat around them, or, if you are a heat freak like me, eat them whole along with everything else on your plate. If you just want a kiss of heat, toast them in the oil, and then remove and discard before adding your meat. You can get big bags of the right kinda dried chile at any Asian grocery for cheap.

EDIT - Some links!

So in reviewing, this guy's channel has some American Chinese, but a lot of authentic Chinese recipes as well. If nothing else, watch some of his stir fry videos just to check his technique. Very solid fundamentals, but you'll need a proper wok and a decent gas burner to do what he does.

Here's the channel: Siu's Cooking

Not sure what your setup is, but these things are fantastic if you don't have access to a decent gas range: Portable Butane Burner. These are also available (along with fuel canisters) at pretty much any Asian grocery, usually less than $20.

Here's another solid channel to browse: Happy Wok

I stranded myself on the freeway once, once.

Then I went straight to REI and bought a fule bottle. Haven't gotten stuck since.

1. Tent: Eagles Peak II Two person tent - http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=50802926
   -This was generous gift from my SO's mom. It may not be the best tent out there, but at free it can't be beat.
   
   
2. Sleeping Bag: Marmot Aspen Minimalist 40 - http://www.trailspace.com/gear/marmot/aspen-40-ultralight/
   -Got this for its small size and light weight. Future winter camping trips are a possibility, in which case I plan on snagging a wool blanket of sleeping bag liner.
   
   
3. Sleeping Pad: RidgeRest Classic - http://www.amazon.com/Therm-A-Rest-6433-Parent-RidgeRest-Classic-Mattress/dp/B00HZ13OYG
   -Simple basic sleeping pad, I've been using these since scouts and have wanted for nothing more, especially because of its light weight.
   -In the event of winter camping, is this enough to insulate from the ground? If not, what could be added to my sleep system to keep me insulated from the ground?
   
   
4. Cookware: Pot Pan stackable combo - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FQZEYWE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00
   -Lightweight and simple, these were cheap and seemed straight forward.
   -They stack with the majority of either piece's empty space facing each other, allowing for decently dry storage for matches etc. inside.
   -Comes with a tight fitting mesh ditty bag
   
   
5. Small Camp Grill - Coghlan's Camp Grill - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001OPHA0S?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
   -Another straight forward and cheap piece,
   -This is really an optional piece, I plan on bringing it along on trips with big groups or when cooking meat is in the cards.
   
   
6. Plates x2: Coleman Enamel plates - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009PUSPI?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
   -These are the camping gold standard in my book, been using them since scouts.
   
   
7. Stuff Sacks x3: REI pack of 3 Ditty Sacks 2, 3, and 7 liter. -http://www.rei.com/product/795047/rei-ditty-sack-package-of-3
   -Came in a decently affordable combo pack, plan on using them for food/toiletries storage and bear bags.
   
   
8. Knife: Morakniv Companion Straight Knife - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TNWD40?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
   -Love this little knife, cheap but durable and was a shaver straight out of the box.
   -Came with a super thick plastic sheath
   
   9)Hatchet: Estwing Hatchet - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TNWD40?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
   -Heard this was a classic, people say they've still got the one's their grandfather's used. It's heavy, but I'm happy with the tradeoff.
   -Got it sharpened well enough to cleanly slice through paper at the moment
   
   
9. Axe Sharpener: Lansky Dual Grit Sharpener - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B8FW0Y?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
   -Great sharpener, pretty much the go to field sharpener from what I've gathered.
   -Only took a couple minutes to learn how to use, the only hard part is consistently following the bevel through each stroke, but it gets easier.
   
   
10. Camp Towels x2: Microfiber quick-drying towels - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B8FW0Y?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
    -Very great, medium size towels with their own tote
    
    
11. Collapsible Water Jug: REI 2.5 gallon collapsible water jug - http://www.rei.com/product/402099/reliance-fold-a-carrier-water-carrier-25-gal
    -Seems great, picked it up at REI physical store then read reviews and got spooked, we'll see though, a minority of the reviewers swear by it.
    -Just in case it sucks, any suggestions for a collapsible water container of equal size/price?
    
    
12. Water Bags x2: 33 oz Bag style canteens - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010OLZ3E2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00
    -These came free with my water filter, and they have many good reviews. If they do well, I may buy some extras.
    
    
13. Wine Skin: 2L - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CN4RN42?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
    -More showing of my primitivist ass, and I thought I could take some weight off of my SO by carrying enough water for the two of us.
    
    
14. Pillows x2: Field and Stream - http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=33581126
    -Got these a long time ago when I knew less, they are pretty bulky and my first item I want to replace
    
    
15. Pack: Kelty Redwing 50L Black
    -SO's mom gifted this this Christmas, so amazing and thoughtful, one of the best gifts I've ever gotten and I love the color
    
    
16. Shoes: Skechers Trail Runners - I found these at the thrift store for a stunning 12 bucks and they fit perfectly
    
    
17. Lighting: Outlite Lantern -http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01178FLM0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
    -Pack of flashlights (might not bring all four) - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V639BNC?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01
    
    
18. Extras: Tarp as groundcloth, some extra stakes.
    
    Items not shown:
    -Always a tin or bag of Drum Tobacco and papers
    -Kindle, old generation one
    -Collapsible trowel
    -Paracord
    -Burlap shoulder bag for gathering kindling etc
    
    Items still wanted (suggestions greatly appreciated):
    -Knife for SO
    -Work gloves
    -Plastic flasks for booze
    -Belt pouch
    -Higher quality tarp
    -Knife Sharpener
    -Sleeping bag liner or wool blanket
    -Any food suggestions!
    -Rain cover for pack
    -Smell proof food bags
    
    I don't have much experience outside of scouts, so I'm very open to critique of my setup. I will warn that I am very much into primitivism, and camping for me is a gateway to a backcountry, esthetic lifestyle I one day I hope to live, so some of my gear choices may not always be the most efficient. Any advice from a primitivist or purist standpoint is doubly appreciated.
    
    

I was given one of these sets for christmas one year, and it's been one of the best darned little things, ever. I now couple it with this set of cooking utensils, and have some of these to eat with. Pretty nice combo, especially for the price. I like being thrifty, and I'm less-happy about the Gerber set's price, and so I eyed it for a long time before finally getting it, and I'm not displeased at all with it. For "group camp" cooking, I have this older, larger pot set that works, albeit a bit sketchy. I use all of them as much on wood fire as I do on the stove, and I can take them with me on the kayak, no problem. The larger pot kit can hold enough food to minimally feed 4 for 2 days inside it.

Cooking small-pot portions reduces the need for cold storage. '2 weeks in the woods' with essentially/practically unlimited foodstore capacity is what dry and canned food is for. Dollar Tree has quarts of milk for a dollar, that don't need to be refrigerated until opened. If I can't find something to do with the remainder of a dollar quart of milk before it goes bad, I'm not upset at all about throwing it out, and I can stock up as much as I have willing room for.

Knowledgable foraging can also go a long way.

I have one of these I've used a few times. Super lightweight and gets the job done. http://www.amazon.com/UCO-Grilliput-Portable-Camping-9-Inch/dp/B000980JMW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1462917629&sr=8-2&keywords=portable+camping+grill

Here's a nice ribeye beginning its journey.

I really like the grill pictured. Small and packs easy. Not the simplest thing to put together, but there is something zen about putting all the spokes in place. Had it for a year now and still hanging in there.

UCO Grilliput Portable Camping Grill

I live in a camper full time going on a month now and I have not found a solution yet, but have been looking. I'm considering a thermal cooker, which apparently works as an oven just by boiling water. There is also something like this that goes right on top of a camp stove: http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-5010D700T-Camp-Oven/dp/B0009PURJA

You probably won't find much of a counter-argument because she's right, it won't be the same. But if you want to live in a camper than you have to adapt and that's pretty much all their is to it.

I would love to be able to grind my wheat and bake my bread on the road!

Prior to turning yourself in, please seek legal aid from a community legal aid service. I'm unfamiliar with the processes in the US but this service may suit your needs: http://www.lafla.org/

If anything they may be able to help you gain an understanding of the best way forward with the fines etc. If there's an opportunity to apply for a payment instalment plan for the fines then they should be able to point you in the right direction.

Don't face this issue alone as you really really don't want to end up in jail. 2-3 weeks sounds okay now but there are serious ramifications once you get out, especially in regards to employment. Your current employer isn't going to be happy for you to just take 3 weeks off to go to jail. You need to keep your job.

Also in regards to living in your car and buying fast food, you could probably save a whole lot of money if you bought a little butane camper stove for about $20 (the butane refills are cheap as), a cheap saucepan and bought some veges from a farmers market. Tinned food will also work well with the stove. Easy to boil up some water and make instant noodles too if you are in a pinch.

So this is what I have with me usually when going to work. Which is a 1h journey by high speed train, crossing an international border.

• The large knife is a Spyderco Native.
  
• And there is another Spyderco hiding in there too.
  
• The tiny flashlight is a Lenser K1
  
• The small flashlight is, I think, a Fenix
  
• 16 GB Thumbdrive
  
• iPhone 5S
  
• Beyerdynamic iDX 160 iE earbuds
  
• eVic Supreme eCigarette with a Nautilus Aspire tank
  
• A Schneider eXtra Document Pigment Pen
  
• A lightning cable
  
• Victorinox SwissTool Spirit III
  
• CRKT Eat N Tool
  
• Leatherman Squirt PS4
  
• A Victorinox quick-release key ring, released
  
• NiteIze key holder, keys, car key
  
• Bellroy Wallet
  
• Plasters Travel Kit
  
• Passport
  
• Maxpedition Pouch (and another, the MaxPedition EDC not shown)
  
  Link to highres picture What addition would compliment this EDC?

Seriously you're not going to believe me because it's so cheap but this is what so many people I know use and it's as good as MSR or my snowpeak stove. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004LUZCQM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1X1WUM5HL2863&coliid=I22XM0G3205ID3&psc=1

If I was starting over I'd get this for sure.

REI's Backpacking Tips for Beginners is a good place to start.

https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/backpacking-beginners.html

You'll notice the first section is "Find an Experienced Partner". While this sub and others can give you a lot of advice, it's not a substitute for a partner who knows what they're doing. That doesn't mean you can't just go out and "wing it"... if you do, don't bite off more than you can chew. Better to take a few shorter overnights just to get used to things before heading out into the backcountry and having an epic. And I think you need a permits for Yos/Mammoth, so better look into that.

The REI list discusses shared gear and personal gear. Most likely an experienced partner is going to already own a tent, stove, cookware... but if it's just two of you with no gear, you'll have to pick up both shared and personal gear. How you want to split the cost is up to you.

The checklists are nice... but before you go out and buy everything on the list, make sure you will actually need them. Start with the basics; tent, bag, pad, pack, headlamp, FAK, maps & compass, stove, pot, utensils, shoes and clothing... and then go from there.

Here's the REI backpacking checklist:

https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/backpacking-checklist.html

It's comprehensive, but remember you don't need everything on the list. It's pretty common for a beginner to go out and spend way too much money, and then start leaving stuff home as they find they don't need it on the trail.

REI is a great place to spend (a lot of) money. They've got very nice gear, and a great return policy if the gear doesn't work for you... but you'll pay full retail if you just walk in and buy the gear. With a membership, all full price items return 10% to you at the end of the year so it's not too bad, and they have seasonal 20% off coupons which do help. It's a good place to pick up a pack since they can help getting you one that fits, which goes a long way to a comfortable hike. Ditto with shoes, and you can try out mattress pads and see what's comfortable for you.

You can buy other things elsewhere like Amazon... but it's recommended that you go to a gear shop to try on packs (and buy it there to support the store).

Here are a few recommendations:

Pack - Gregory and Osprey are often recommended. For a beginner, 50L-60L is a good size. Don't get a 70L pack, you'll just end up bringing more gear than you need. Try the pack on, load it up with weights, and make sure it fits and carries well. Sometimes the REI packs will fit you better than others... if that's the case get the REI (and save a few bucks).

Tent - Huge range of products here. The Lynx is a decent starter tent for the cost. It'll probably last a few years, and by then hopefully you'll have more money and more experience and get something you like better.

Sleeping bag - If you can afford a down bag, that's great, they're lighter and pack smaller than synthetic bags. The Kelty Cosmic 20 is a good bag for the price.


Pad - Look at the basic inflatables (keep in mind the R-value if you're thinking of going later in the season) like the Thermarest ProLite. Some stick with foam pads like the Thermarest Z Lite pad to save money. Try them out and see what you like.

Stove - The MSR PocketRocket is ol' reliable. Lot of people have them, but the new MSR PocketRocket 2 is more compact and lighter. There are some cheap (< $15) stoves on Amazon, the Etekcity and BRS 3000T... people have been using them but they're small and more suited to people who are just boiling water for dehydrated meals rather than those who actually cook.

Cookset - Don't spend money on a 12 piece cookset...they're cool, but at some point you'll probably figure out you only need a shared pot and a mug for each person. And maybe a small fry pan. Depends on what you want to eat out there. Anodized aluminum is light and sturdy, but more expensive than other options. Titanium is super light, but doesn't disperse heat well so it's great for boiling water, but not so much for cooking non-liquid meals. Stainless steel is heavy but will last many years.

Spork - so many sporks out there... long handled spoons work better for getting food from the bottom of a packet.

Headlamp - Get a decent headlamp. Black Diamond Spot is a nice one, Petzl makes some nice ones as well.

Good luck!

I'll help ya out in the ultralight department, and on the cheap:
BRS Ultra-light Titanium Stove, $17, 1.5oz
TOAKS Titanium 550ml Pot, $25, 3.5oz

There are tons of affordable ultralight gear, lemme know if you want any more suggestions

that looks like a ripoff of the Grilliput, lots of places sell it:

http://www.amazon.com/UCO-Grilliput-Portable-Camping-Grill/dp/B000980JMW

In case any of you wanted a mug like this https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-12-oz-Enamel-Mug/dp/B0009PUR72

> Plus I planned to be without for a month and how do you make instant coffee without hot water?

I've heated water over candles before to make coffee. If those little tea light candles can make potpourri simmer... they can make water hot enough for coffee. Those old school metal camping cups work well for this. https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-12-oz-Enamel-Mug/dp/B0009PUR72

I bring my pour over. You can look up a lot of different techniques on how to make it but it's mostly bs.

Just boil water, put your grounds in a paper filter inside the pour over funnel thing, set that on top of a cup. Once the water boils pour just enough to wet the grounds. Wait till you see the bubbling / expansion stop, then pour water slowly until you have enough coffee.

Very minimal setup, not sure why more people don't do it.

Edit: found a collapsible one from gsi

https://www.amazon.com.au/Petforu-Ultralight-Portable-Backpacking-Cookware/dp/B015SRB58U/ref=mp_s_a_1_212?crid=2KQCHM86Q1BSE&keywords=ultralight+hiking&qid=1557106020&s=gateway&sprefix=ultralight+h&sr=8-212

Something like this

several gallon freezer ziplocks are handy. and then just a few contractor bags for impromptu dry bags. I have one of these(just the burner) and it keeps food cost down in a big way. fuel is cheap and packs easy. if you're going somewhere with lots of mosquitos, I tend to forgo the tarp and get a small one person tent. also a machete/hatchet could come in handy for intimidating assholes. and if you are going around blackberry bushes, you can always wade out an adequate distance and then clear a camp spot with your machete, instant fortified safe camp.

Butane camp stoves are super cheap, cans of fuel are $2-3 and last quite a while. I've switched to bringing just this, and a pot and pan.

It's currently cheaper on Amazon https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N5O7551/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Here's a hard case lunch box that has an added benefit of no one wanting to steal it.

Here's one that people will definitely steal. But it supposedly holds ice 3 days. Yes it's soft but not flimsy.

Here's the one I'd recommend. It's $12 incl prime shipping. If you lose it, or it gets run over.... or shit, if it gets moldy and you don't want to clean it, just get another one.

Here you go, only $12 https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-FlipLid-Cooler-Quart-Blue/dp/B000IBWI42/ref=sr_1_39?keywords=cooler&qid=1558714649&s=gateway&sr=8-39

It's just difficult to maneuver in the nalgene bottle, and it's a bitch to get that thing clean on the trail. Well it's hard to clean even off the trail imho. Regular french presses are no-fun enough for me to clean, so picture that plus the lip of the nalgene bottle, PLUS the mess you created when you removed the folding press part.... Does it work like it's mean to? Technically yes. Will you want to use it? Probably not.

I am not saying coffee made with the GSI H2Jo is better or even as good as french press, but it's certainly easier, and if I'm guessing, weighs less. No moving parts. Easier to clean, etc. I actually use it in reverse, though - put coffee grounds into the bottle, then screw on the H2Jo. Let the coffee steep as long as I want it to, and then pour the coffee off, through the H2jo. That's not at all how it's meant to be used, but the coffee is better. And at that point the difference in cleaning it and the nalgene french press isn't that great. So it's almost a wash, except it weighs less. And you can still use the nalgene, while it's installed. With this you could even cold brew all night, pour off in the morning and heat THAT coffee up. Now that'd be good coffee.

Honestly what someone needs to make is something designed to do what I described above. Instead of like the H2jo, though, just make the metal mesh flush with the top of the bottle, and make the coffee as I described. That'd be even smaller, weigh even less, and be even easier to clean. You could even make it have with different size holes on each half, so you could choose between pour speed, and sediment.

But at this point you might as well just make cowboy coffee and be done with it.

Honestly I'm just kinda brainstorming here. :)

It's called an "MSR fuel bottle"

http://www.amazon.com/MSR-MSRFUELBOTT-Fuel-Bottle/dp/B002L1413S

Most people get a little strappy holster and put it on the outside of their bike.

Sorry I forgot to say its a nice kit. Maybe some utensils would help to something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Columbia-River-Knife-Tool-9100C/dp/B0030IRKHA/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1369081554&sr=8-9&keywords=titanium+spork

Using what kind of fuel? For canisters I've been using a Soto OD-1R in warm weather, and in cold weather I've been using a Kovea Spider. The Kovea is easier to set up flat and sits lower to the ground, but it's twice the weight of the Soto at 6 oz. However, you can flip the fuel canister which is a big help in the cold. Either of these stoves can be used to simmer, which extends their usefulness to more than making hot water. The Spider works well with a 1.5 liter pot (MSR), while the Soto is better with a smaller tall pot like a Snow Peak 700 or 900.

For alcohol stoves I've been using the penny stove lately-great little design but does require some effort to make and then combine with other items to make a full kit. I have been using it with either a MSR Titan mug or a Snow Peak 700 mini-pot, a home built pot stand, and windscreen. Can't really simmer with this stove though, at least in my experience.

If you want an alcohol stove with no fuss get a Trangia. It's the same stove combined with differing pot sets at the link above, you can get the stove by itself. It's heavier than the penny stove, but you can simmer with it plus carry it with fuel in it already-very convenient.

Welcome aboard! :D

I think you will be fine with 35mm tyres. Here's the trick - if it becomes too much you just hitchike through the gravel sections. Hitchhiking is super popular and you won't have issues with it (as a plan B). Honestly, more often than not people I've met would just fly in, buy a used semi-shitty bike and equipment, ride for a month or two, and then sell the bikes. I brought my own since I had contact points (saddle, handlebar) adjusted several times over prior months.

As for camping - it's a mix of paid campsite (usually 5-10 USD) and wild camping. I personally stayed in paid ones when I had a chance - showers (often cold ones though), kitchen, and company are a big draw for me. I wild camped three time, only one of them was "stealth", meaning I just camped on the side of the road. Second one I just asked the permission to camp on what looked like somebody's property and they said "sure thing", and third we camped at the shore of the river where lots of other people camped. For equipment - check out /r/Ultralight - a lot of stuff they recommend is pricey, but at the same time there are a lot of people looking to go on the cheap. I would personally recommend Naturehike Taga 2p tent - it's very light, it's a chinese knock off a well known brand, so it's a good design, and people being saying very nice things about the quality. It can be had for ~100 USD I believe (check out AliExpress or Amazon , whichever is cheaper). You main expenditure items will be sleeping pad and sleeping bag. For pad you want inflatable insulated compact one. If you can afford it - go for Sea To Summit UL Comfort, or NeoAir XLite. If you can't - check out Klymit Insulated Static V. For sleeping bags there are just too many options for me to recommend anything, plus you're headed somewhere where it's not going to get cold at night in January, so there are millions of options.

Other things you're going to need:

• Stove (I used this one and love it - it's compact, it's light, it's cheap, and it's reliable. The drawback is that it takes a bit more time to boil water, and it can be a bit unstable due to small size, but the alternative is like 50$ more so I just live with it. https://www.amazon.com/Etekcity-Ultralight-Portable-Backpacking-Ignition/dp/B00B4FY8YO/ref=s9u_simh_gw_i1?_encoding=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pd_rd_i=B00B4FY8YO&pd_rd_r=FQNGM82TNCGE7MVAP130&pd_rd_w=9GBOP&pd_rd_wg=9qjrK&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=2RQM0WMC7CQWCFAHNXFQ&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=781f4767-b4d4-466b-8c26-2639359664eb&pf_rd_i=desktop)
  
• Rainjacket. Yeah, it's going to rain sometimes.
  
• Pot(s) to cook in. Again, no need to go fancy, I use a set of these ones: https://www.amazon.com/MalloMe-Camping-Cookware-Folding-10-Piece/dp/B01743BX1A/ref=pd_bxgy_468_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01743BX1A&pd_rd_r=R9CMCK2HC8H2F0SZRHMK&pd_rd_w=rifN7&pd_rd_wg=UzODw&psc=1&refRID=R9CMCK2HC8H2F0SZRHMK
  
• Warm compact UL jacket. This is what you put on in the evening in the camp if the cold wind picks up. People often go for down jacket and that's a good options, but down doesn't deal well with moisture, so for Patagonia I would actually consider synthetic insulated jacket. /r/Ultralight has a long list of threads discussing cheap (~30$) options from AliExpress - check them out.
  
  All of this together can be had for under 400 USD easily, maybe even 300. That would only be 5-6 nights in a hotel.
  
  Things to consider although not critical:
  
  
• merino shirts and underwear. I never quite understood why people were so crazy about merino until I tried it on my trip. When you sweat it dries up in couple minutes, it doesn't smell (like, I cycled and hiked and slept in two shirts for two weeks and they didn't smell at the end), it's very light, it keeps you warm when it's chilly and cool when it's hot.
  
• Power bank - charging even in campsites is somewhat of a challenge since there are approximately 20 devices macguyvered to a single outlet. With 20,000 mAH bank I only needed to recharge it once in two weeks (I charged my phone off of it every night + a camera battery once).
  
  To reiterate on safety - part I was in virtually has no crime. At no point the situation looked even remotely sketchy. Honestly, the scariest part of the trip by far was deciding to go.

Coleman makes a fold-up camp oven that sits on top of a stove burner. I haven't used it but Bob Wells of CheapRVLivng.com seems to like them.

https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000016462-Camp-Oven/dp/B0009PURJA

I most often use a small Coleman Cooler, which is handy as a cooler too.

You can use a small cooler as well; I've been using a Coleman for a couple of years now for this sort of thing.

I'm not sure about that Keurig, but I've had success with [this from GSI] ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000PGPGQC?ie=UTF8&at=&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links) in a normal nalgene.

I often bring a firesteel striker - it can be fun to start your campfire "old school". (That said, I still bring a lighter as a backup.)

Oui, c'est comme ça que tu te retrouves avec des économiseurs de faucon pélerin.

A possible solution might be to learn to use chopsticks and get a stainless-steel pair of those.

Knives and Forks can go in luggage just no knives in carry-on. I'm doing some research as I post this since I'm kind of curious about doing this myself now. Apparently forks are ok but "The final decision is up to the TSA agent" which doesn't bode well, imo.
I also found these, I think I might get one for my travels. Not sure about that coating though, sounds like black is teflon and the other colors are something I've never heard of.

Short Spork Keychain Tool

And A Full Sized One

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There can be quite a huge difference in pricing between stuff you know came from China and stuff that has a brand name that came from China. The function is the same, the materials are largely the same. The difference is the brand name mark-up. At that price I'd buy one just to test it.

I suppose THESE in aluminum aren't terrible for the budget minded, You can find several different varieties for around 15-20 bucks. They include folding spork, bamboo spatula and other goodies.

The One Egg Wonder is popular with the UL community, just chop that handle off. Be mindful of the "one egg" deffinition as this pan is 4.75" around, i.e. SMALL but lightish.

If you want something that actually functions as a frying pan, I use THIS but it comes in heavier @ about 10.5 oz. I use it rarely but it actually works for frying where the THIN titanium/aluminum pans do NOT.

You must properly "season" the MSR pan, but it works beautifully.

I know you wanted the rubberized handles, but that limits your options significantly. I'd say apply the rubber yourself with a tool handle dip.
BRS Stove - $16
Snow Peak Trek 900 - $45
Rustoleum Grip Dip $17.50

That leaves a solid $10. You can have them pick you up a canister or two!
I've been using both the BRS Stove and Snow Peak Trek 900 and they both work great. Now, if you have a windy situation, you may need to build a windscreen or get a MSR Pocket Rocket.

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Water System:

-Sawyer Micro Squeeze w/ adaptor for back flushing
($45.40 on Amazon )

-2L Evernew Water Bag
($15.82 on Amazon )

-2 1L Smart Water Bottles ($5)

Cook Set:

-Toaks Titanium 900 ml pot
( $60.81 on Amazon )

-Light My Fire Spork
( $3.56 on Amazon )

Or, you could use a long handled spork to reach into dehydrated meal bags, e.g. Boundless Voyage, Toaks, Snow Peak, etc (More Expensive)

A cheap disposable option is a Dairy Queen large spoon if you don’t require a fork.

-Optional hot drink mug: GSI Infinity Backpackers Mug
( $11.09 on Amazon )

Stove:

Alcohol Options:

• DIY cat stove with integrated pot holder (go on YouTube)
  
  -Trangia or Titanium alcohol stove e.g. Vargo Triad
  
  -Make a DIY beer can or aluminum flashing windscreen (YouTube)
  
  [You need to make sure that the alcohol stove has a snuffer cap if a fire ban is in effect]
  
  [If you use an alcohol stove, you will need a leakproof fuel bottle- check MEC, Litesmith, or use an old fuel stabilizer bottle]
  
  [In Canada, good alcohol fuels are Methyl Hydrate and Captain Phab Marine Stove Fuel]
  
  Gas Stoves:
  
  I don’t use a gas stove, however, here are a few I have heard of that are more affordable.
  
  
• MSR Pocket Rocket 2
  ($59.95 on Amazon )
  
  
• BRS Titanium Burner
  ($20.93 on Amazon )
  
  

For 3 season, mostly fair weather, UK & European camping I am totally happy using my Duplex, so I would go with that. You just have to accept that condensation is a mostly daily management issue - no biggie!

I would look at halving your combined rainwear weight - the Montbell Versalite jacket and pants are good options that will get you under 300g for the both of them.

I would also look at the 2018/19 Montbell Exlite Anorak (if you can still get hold of one) - despite having a hood it is lighter than the Ghost Whisperer hoodless and it’s warmer by most accounts than the hooded GW too.

Personally I would go with an Evernew 900ml tall pot with lid at 95g (lighter than the Toaks and you can boil enough for 2 people’s dehydrated meals when you need to). I would also go against this sub’s Windmaster-love and choose instead a Firemaple stove for half the weight, or even a BRS at 1/4 the weight. There are lighter ways to master the wind than an 85g stove! (Use your tent vestibule or arrange your pack and some rocks as a wind-break)

Evernew 900

Firemaple FMS300T

Firemaple FMS116T

BRS 3000T

Edit: if you are interested in the Nitecore NU25 you can do a version of the Litesmith Mod yourself, as per this video:
NU25 Headband Mod

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XNLSNFR/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_c_api_i_wii7AbZXTEPG0

This stove is great. I’ve been using it for a few months now. It weighs almost nothing and performs quite well boiling 2 cups of water in under 3 minutes. Plus, it’s cheap. If it isn’t for you, then you’re only out $20.

There's nothing cool about it, it's an 18lb waste of space.

It has 132 square inches of grill top. This has nearly double the grill space if you have a family to feed, or if you are okay with smaller for 1-2 people? This is the standard go-to grill for camping

If someone bought me one of these I'd be quite happy.

Oh girl, you just opened a can of worms. This is the same aesthetic I’ve been working on for months (also, you gave me lots of good ideas to add! Thanks!)

For our centerpieces, I’ve been playing around with the idea of ordering large blue enamel mugs to use as vases. These just SCREAM camping to me, and I will likely fill them with wildflowers. I’m also considering laying the mugs on a small stack of nature books or maps. I’m kind of going for a “side table in the first” vibe.

Mugs like these: https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-12-oz-Enamel-Mug/dp/B0009PUR72

I also love the idea of using lanterns. Not the trendy candle lanterns everyone is using right now, but legitimate camping lanterns. I think they could add a nice ruggedness.

I’m trying to find a way to incorporate this in a way that feels classy instead of tacky, but I am also considering using bandanas as napkins. The ones just about every hunter wears around his neck while out in the woods. This one can come off a little “cowboy” if you’re trying to avoid that.

Try doing a search for Montreal and/or Canada on /r/Coffee. I forget the names of the shops I found there the last time I did that search, but I was able to find both online vendors and certain shops that sold "third-wave" coffee gear.

> looking to buy little outdoor supplies like cups

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Have you looked at MEC? Do you mean something like this?

Or are you thinking of old-fashioned enamel ware stuff like this?

Don't forget to check out your local (or not-so-local) thrift shops for old-fashioned mugs.

Like this https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000016462-Camp-Oven-13-5/dp/B0009PURJA

Howdy!

You can use a Coleman style oven on top of your campstove, http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-5010D700T-Camp-Oven/dp/B0009PURJA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409409170&sr=8-1&keywords=folding+camp+oven or a dutch oven to do your baking. (I use both)

A camp oven, pizza stones to put inside to hold heat, and a pan for it.

There are camping ovens designed to work on a cooktop. http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-5010D700T-Camp-Oven/dp/B0009PURJA

Ugh, I wonder if I can do one in a springform pan (not necessarily releasing it). We're downsizing and most of my bakeware is in storage, of course including my souffle and tart dishes. I soon will be experimenting with a stovetop oven and reporting results!

I cook with one of these. Works great. takes up very little room and a $3 bottle of propane lasts me a couple weeks.

Memberships at truck stops don't really get you anything except a couple perks like free coffee after you spend so much money etc. If you fill on diesel, they give you a free shower but no go on regular fuel. I got a commercial card from pilot just by walking thru the 'trucker' door on the side and asking for a shower and telling them i didnt have a card. She gave me a commercial driver card (never asked for cdl) and put a free shower on for me.

Every time since then ive gone in and asked for a shower (prepared to pay) and given them my card they have given me a free one as a courtesy (not at the same one). Sometimes they ask if i filled up my truck today which i honestly reply no, i haven't filled up a truck today.

I pretty much lived at a pilot for a year, it was the kind that had a restaurant attached to it. I wouldn't advise abusing it like that, but i became close with the people who managed it from its opening day. But you can stay at any of them a night or two and they wont say anything. Of course as with staying at walmart, the right thing to do is buy supplies or food there if you stay. I bought a giant refillable mug and got a soda with it each time for $1.39.

You do not have to be a member to use the wifi, power or even sit and watch tv in some. They don't care. Some smaller truck stops do but not pilot or flying J. I heard loves is similar but i dont go there usually.

As someone who was in a similar situation as you, id advise scraping or begging/credit carding whatever to get 100 watts of solar ($164 kit + $90 29DC walmart battery + $20inverter) and a cooking setup in your rig asap. Your cost of living will plummet like a meteor after you can store and eat actual groceries.

This is a double-burner stove that comes highly recommended. I have a Coleman single-burner stove.

• Hose and regulator to run 20lb tanks on 1lb appliances
  
• Adapter to run 1lb tanks on 20lb appliances
  

So I was looking through your wishlist and I see a lot of things you really don't need. I took it upon myself to prune your list and save you some money.

$200 for a mattress? Get this highly attractive and equally awesome queen size pull out sofa for just $60.

A tie rack? Real men make their own.

Mini fridge. Bam, $12.

Odor Eliminator Gel? Use vinegar.

Cleaner/Degreaser? Vinegar.

Make your own laundry detergent.

Cloth wipes will save you so much money, and they feel soo nice on the butt. Just ask my son!

Reed Diffusers? Pffft, just pick up some cedar shavings and shove them into corners. You'll be smelling like a real man in no time.

I guess your friends need somewhere to sit. Carry on. But you can make your own bean bag by sewing up a sheet and collecting all the packing materials you get from RAoA boxes.

http://www.amazon.com/GSI-73020-Outdoors-H2JO-Percolator/dp/B000PGPGQC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1500554246&sr=8-1&keywords=nalgene+coffee

http://smile.amazon.com/GSI-73020-Outdoors-H2JO-Percolator/dp/B000PGPGQC/

This is what I use. I have a nalgene bottle just for it so my water doesn't taste like coffee. I pour the water in the bottle, and then put the filter thing in, and then the coffee in the filter thing. Screw the cap on, make sure its all tight, and then I lay it on its side until I think its had enough time to brew. Doing it this way lets me take the grounds out before I enjoy my liter of coffee (all morning long) so it doesn't get bitter. Also makes cleaning easier because I can scoop most of the grounds out into a garbage bag to pack out and what I can get is rinsed out. I make sure my coffee is course ground for this, much like cowboy coffee.

Get a small butane burner. I got mine at an Asian food store, but they're available at camping stores & restaurant supply places and of course on line eg. http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Butane-Stove-Camping-Burner/dp/B000RA8V1S
The butane comes in a can about the size of a can of spraypaint. I think they burn hotter than my propane camper stoves, they are super portable and can be used indoors if you need an extra burner. There is no problem with soot.

One of these butane burners comes in handy too. They're cheap and store away for times when you have no power or just need one more burner.

well maybe a firestarter or even a compass

Or maybe flint & steel? It wouldn't work directly, but it would let you start a flame if you even had some paper or something.

Like this or smth:

http://www.amazon.com/Swedish-Firesteel-Model-Black-Handle/dp/B0013L2DKU/ref=tag_dpp_lp_edpp_ttl_ex

the best you can have in your backpack is a firesteel starter, for example this one (very durable, 12000 strikes, usable in every condition): amazon link

They are also cheap.

I will go ahead and be honest here. I am really not much of an outdoorsy person. I would much rather stay inside in my clean, dry, air conditioned, safe home than be out in the dirty/dusty, humid and sometimes rainy, fucking hot as hell, filled with bugs and evil wild animals Arizona desert. But the thing is, my SO is a HUGE outdoors person. So I am trying really hard to overcome my aversion to these activities and get out and do some fun stuff with her.

We have planned a little camping trip for ourselves, but we're waiting on the weather. The middle of Phoenix summer is no time to go out into the desert. So when things cool down a bit and get stable (monsoon season is so unpredictable) we will take a friends truck out to the middle of nowhere. Hike a couple miles up to one of SO's favorite spots. Set up a tent and stuff and rough it for a couple nights.

So, obviously being out in the middle of nowhere with little to no resources could be a problem. Fire is necessary. So I would really like to have either this really cool lighter or this striker set.

Thanks for the contest! :)

Basically you got a kit that is a GearWhores dream, what you don't have is a kit that will keep you alive for more than a few days.

1. I want you to pile up all this shit you call a kit on Floor
   
2. Place an empty box on your bed and put the following in it:
   A) the ability to clean and carry water.
   B) the ability to make fire.
   C) shelter to keep dry/warm (a simple poncho and Mylar Blankets at first)
   
   At this point you could live for a couple weeks, and you've spent $40+ cost of pack
   
   D) food, start with compact shelf stable foods, like the dry emergency rations or these.
   A couple weeks worth is like $20, now if you ration you could live for over a month.
   
   3)Now throw away everything else left on the floor.
   As the other person pointed out you have 60+ pounds of junk. That fact is a kit to keep you alive for over a month should cost $60 and fit in a shoe box.

Found it on Amazon! http://www.amazon.com/Banana-Saver-Inc/dp/B002A8HSXW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1318612012&sr=8-2

I AM SICK AND TIRED OF MY BANANAS BEING SMUSHY WHEN I EAT THEM DURING LUNCH.

But if that doesn't count as a kitchen/food-y item, then these would be really nice :)

How easy was that?

Just get some fuel bottles.

http://www.amazon.com/MSR-MSRFUELBOTT-Fuel-Bottle/dp/B002L1413S

It's an MSR fuel bottle for their liquid fuel camping stoves. They come in 3 different sizes, the one he's using is the 30 oz. The stoves run on white gas, kerosene and gasoline and have an excellent safety seal. Used one for my 6 month camping adventure around the US =)

Maybe this GSI Outdoors Collapsible Java Drip or a similar silicone device.

300 filters, removed from their original packaging and compressed, would not take up that much space. This is much easier to clean than a french press.

Hammock and GSI Java Drip.

The cheapest add-on item I have is just over $4, so feel free to leave me out if you like. It's on my default list. (It's a spork/multitool keychain.)

Stove - Video
Mug
Pot, Pan set or this, depending on cooking preference.
Cutlery or this
Get fuel locally, such as the MSR butane mix for $5.99/8oz at Sports Authority
Total cost <$40

For cooking, it depends on what style of camping you're doing. The pocket rocket is great for backpacking because it compromises ease of use for size and weight. If you decide to go that route, you can get a similar stove for cheaper. They're also on eBay and sites like dealextreme, just search "3.9oz stove". But if you're car camping, where weight and size aren't big concerns, there are better stoves for that.

The standard Coleman 2-burner is great. The difference is that you get a more stable platform and two burners at the same time, to cook a more complex meal. Also, you don't have to be careful about shaking your pan or setting it down carefully (worrying about knocking over the a pocket rocket-style stove). The Coleman is expensive but anything like that would be good (something sturdy). You can also find them pretty often at garage sales, thrift stores, etc. That basic design has been around for decades, and they're simple and well built so they usually last.

Campfire cooking works, but it's hard to get the right heat in the right spot, control the heat level over time, fashion something to hold your pots/pans over it, etc.

This one, it's even less now.

The best way to use canisters in the snow is using a stove that has a preheat loop where you can invert the canister and push liquid fuel. Or get canisters that are a propane / butane mix. The jetboil branded canisters are a mix, MSR is a mix, and Coleman is a mix.

That said, warming the canister is smart. Know that the propane will burn off faster in cold temps leaving you with a butane canister eventually. :)

For a simple and fairly cheap remote stove with a preheat loop, check out the Kovea Spider - amazon

Good luck! Hiking, Skiing, or Snowshoeing in the cascades is AWESOME.

Check out the Windpro II. It has a wide flame, so it is good for "real" cooking. And a remote canister, which means that it is shorter (more stable) and you can fully enclose it with a windscreen.

http://www.cascadedesigns.com/msr/stoves/gourmet-cooking/windpro-ii/product

If the Windpro II is too pricey, check out the Kovea Spider. The flame isn't as wide as the Windpro, but it is still pretty good for a canister stove.

https://www.amazon.com/Kovea-Spider-Stove-Small-Silver/dp/B00CFPIPKA/

As a backpacker I think I'm a lifer with the Kovea Spider. Small, light and powerful with great simmer control. It's also a remote canister stove. Works great at elevation and sub-freezing temps. Turn the canister over and it burns liquid instead of gas. You do need a windscreen but you can make one out of an aluminum baking pan for about a buck.

https://www.amazon.com/Kovea-Spider-Stove-Small-Silver/dp/B00CFPIPKA

I believe Kovea has a stove with a remote canister. More importantly, it has a preheater that allows the remote canister to be flipped over.

If you can spend more money, there's a new version of the Whisperlite that supports remote isobutane canisters as well as gas and kerosene, and can probably do those heavy green propane canisters with a Kovea adapter.

Edit: Found the stove. It's the Kovea Spider. In case you don't already know, the benefit of using a stove with an inverted canister is that you can burn the liquid butane first while retaining the propane in the canister to provide pressure.

/u/knuckle-sandwich definitely should get this Camping Cook Set!

I'm sure they'll get a bunch of awesome use out of it!

gift all the people

Being on a budget, I went with an inexpensive pot set from Amazon and I have been very happy with it. My fuel canister and stove fit inside and it has proven to be fairly durable.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FQZEYWE/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Hey, I had that same pot! I really liked it but it was heavy. I found an aluminum one on amazon for really cheap.
I dig the outside-the-box thinking of your stove. Did you go looking for this or did you just come across it?


http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FQZEYWE

Unless you plan on eating out all the time (which will get expensive really fast in Europe) you will want to carry some kind of stove and a pot.

This one is cheap and very popular. This set with two small pots included also seems nice. If you can't order from amazon you can also find them on eBay and the other usual Chinese sellers.

An other alternative would be an alcohol stove. Either selfmade from a soda can or something like a Trangia mini.

How old are you kids? Have they been camping before? Plenty of stuff to make them comfortable and happy. These Mystical Fire Packets are great and my kids (6 and 4) really look forward to using them. Good shoes, plenty of snacks and treats, maybe their own cookware. If your kids are older maybe you don't need to go this route. I just try to make trips as fun and exciting as I can for my youngsters to get them interested.

Thanks for the write up. Why not just use an alcohol or camp stove? Like one of these (much bigger cone): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MYGMO6M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_qFZwDbF0YRDAQ

Cooking - Butane burner, no home should be without one. They're like $20 and the fuel is cheap to be used for a night or so. If you have a local asian supermaket, pick one up! If you don't amazon is your friend.

https://www.amazon.com/GS-1000-Portable-Automatic-Ignition-Carrying/dp/B01MYGMO6M/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1517847510&sr=8-5&keywords=butane+burner


This... this kind of takes care of cooking.

I'm sure that it doesn't need to be said, but candles are a thing that every household should have. It's not going to heat up a space dramatically, but in the cold of winter, every little bit helps.

https://simplefamilypreparedness.com/homemade-space-heater/

and... well, you have solar running around, a solar powered refrigerator/freezer could help offset food storage in the long term and takes the worry out of charging your communication tools like cellphones and what not. That and provides lights, which is always helpful!

https://www.amazon.com/GS-1000-Portable-Automatic-Ignition-Carrying/dp/B01MYGMO6M/

This butane stove works perfectly.

I use something like this if I don't have access to my electric burner. When I'm camping though I'll just place them in the heart of the campfire and use some long tongs to remove them.

This might be designed for backpacking, but the flame control is great and the fuels lasts for a brick. It's my go to hiking/camping stove.
https://www.amazon.com/MSR-PocketRocket-Stove-One-Size/dp/B01N5O7551/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499308812&sr=8-1&keywords=Rocket+stove+2

I have a BRS stove. SUPER light weight and CHEAP!

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https://www.amazon.com/BRS-BRS-3000T-Ultra-Light-Titanium-Miniature/dp/B06XNLSNFR/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=BD6QKQZEU2S7&keywords=brs+stove&qid=1563482800&s=sporting-goods&sprefix=BRS+%2Csporting%2C135&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1

Head over to /r/Ultralight

It's a super active sub, and while you say ultra light isn't a necessity, there's a ton of good reviews and pack loadouts you can check out. I recently picked up SnowPeak LightMax.. Others have been using the cheap BRS-3000T

For your stove, I would swap out the Pocket Rocket for the BRS 3000 titanium stove. I've used this stove for almost a year of casual backpacking and my buddy has used hers for almost a year of hard use (almost every day for 3 months). I love this stove! Price:$13-$20 on Amazon. Weight saved: 2oz
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XNLSNFR/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1511720626&sr=8-1-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=brs+titanium+stove&psc=1&smid=AYV8D5JVC1UF2

Definately use the smaller canister for your fuel. I went on a 6 day trip where I cooked breakfast and dinner every day, and I had fuel left over at the end of it.

Check out the Yama Mountain Gear pogies. They are cheap, and are definately gonna ventilate better than the rain mitts. (I've never used them, but I'm gonna get some)
https://www.yamamountaingear.com/pogies-rain/

The only other thing I might suggest would be to use the Anker 1300. You'd gain a little weight, but it gives you an extra phone charge. This is really only necessary if you'll be using your phone for maps or pictures.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00Z9QVE4Q/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1511720683&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=anker+13000&dpPl=1&dpID=314Zy5LrQ7L&ref=plSrch

I always bring my super small portable bbq some charcoal, bacon, wraps, onions, peppers, and jerk sauce. Much nicer and cheaper than the food available on site.

It looks pretty flimsy :/ If I was to get a "lightweight" grill for camping I would just get this.

If you have the technology to tap threads, you could run your locking rods through to the outside of your square tubes and put wingnuts on the ends to hold everything together. If you don't have taps, you could replace these with threaded rods, but be careful of zinc coatings.

There is a commercial version called the Grilliput, but it's basically the same as what you've done. Probably lighter though.

Out here in the West, we cannot burn fires right now. Usually, however, this is not the case. I usually use a fire for all my heating needs. I stumbled across this and thought it innovative.

I use this. It is 12 oz, so a little heavy. However, I can cook and boil at the same time if need be.

This is also cool.

But if you really want to go super light, make sure your kettle or pot does not have any plastic or silicone parts, and that you have a towel or a glove to touch it when it is hot. Make a stick stand or a tripod with twine or cordage and hang the kettle or pot from it....or... take a flat rock and place in the middle of the fire, setting the pot on top of it. The latter method takes some technique and will require a lot of fire monitoring to keep the flames where they need to be. You also need a perfect rock.

https://www.amazon.com/UCO-Grilliput-Portable-Camping-9-Inch/dp/B000980JMW/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1526397301&sr=8-9&keywords=backpacking+grill

this is my favorite coffee mug. I have a few. My reasoning is kind of stupid, but the tin mugs exchange heat pretty quickly compared to ceramic, and I don’t like my coffee piping hot, so when If comes out of my French press, I don’t have to wait as long to drink it when it’s in a tin camping mug

Worth noting that you can get the same mug (minus the Crowder branding, so... better) for less than $3 on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0009PUR72/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1505846257&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=enamel+camping+mug&dpPl=1&dpID=51zOoOAnX8L&ref=plSrch

They may have stopped making these

https://www.amazon.ca/Coleman-Company-5010D700T-Camp-Oven/dp/B0009PURJA#

For really light use (or heavy if you want) I like the single burner:
https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Powerpack-TM-Propane-Stove/dp/B0009PUS6M/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1465607666&sr=8-2&keywords=coleman+single+burner+stove

I've been using one for 4-5 years.

Look at your meal plan and figure out if you're going to need more than one thing on heat at a time.

Sounds like others have nailed the answers, but as others have mentioned propane and butane stoves might let you cook at parks or the like. Here's an example of a really small and cheap one, since space and money are scarce for you.

https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-PowerPack-Propane-Single-Burner/dp/B0009PUS6M/ref=mp_s_a_1_15?keywords=coleman+stove&qid=1566985725&s=gateway&sr=8-15

these things are available at most Walmarts along with the fuel.

Don't cook in your car... Toxic gasses.

Propane stove:

https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Powerpack-TM-Propane-Stove/dp/B0009PUS6M/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1466800272&sr=8-6&keywords=propane+stove

No, I don't feel nervous. The little 1lb propane bottles seem pretty harmless for the most part.

I cook eggs every morning. That's it.

The problem with cooking is cleaning... cleaning requires water. And I am very strict about my water use. So I only cook for breakfast.

Can you think of any reason why this would not work with creating starters? I'm trying to think of a way to safely support a 5L flask on their too. It looks like it would balance well enough

Edit: Actually, I may go this route instead...looks like it would balance better. Or this

Maybe this

this

This should be fine: https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-FlipLid-Personal-Cooler-Blue/dp/B000IBWI42/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467824032&sr=8-1&keywords=small+cooler

Hey!

I've decided I'll go with this tiny cooler box - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B000IBWI42/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
To keep my film cool while on the road. I'm now wondering about moisture... How do I counteract it? I've heard whispers of silica gel being my best bet. Has anyone done something like this before?

Also, I've decided I'd need to up my budget for a tripod to £75-£100. I'm looking for something lightweight, very compact, adjectable to eye level. Something that I can easily fit in my bag. If I could get something similar to them requirements without being that much, please suggest it haha!

Thank you very much <3

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000IBWI42 this is the exact one I use (5 quart coleman). Not very big. The thick sides help to make sure it freezes from top down though so not sure I'd use tupperware.

Water level should be 2-2.5 times as high as you want the cubes. so 5inch water ~2.5inch cubes.

H2JO By: GSI outdoors this guy lives on my hydro flask full time. Also does great work with loose leaf tea when I want to switch it up.

https://www.amazon.com/GSI-Outdoors-73020-H2JO/product-reviews/B000PGPGQC

Pair that with the camelbak twist lid which is actually spill/backpack proof. It does not leak and you can have hot coffee/tea all morning.

https://www.amazon.com/CamelBak-Chute-Hot-Accessory-Black/dp/B0793CNVDP/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=camelbak+screw+cap&qid=1573356701&sprefix=camelbak+screw+&sr=8-6

I just dump in my grounds or tea into the hydro flask or nalgene add hot water and screw them both back on and I am good to go. Bonus is you have cold brew later in the day if you dont drink it all in the AM.

This handy tool and a standard Naglene is the easiest and fastest coffee I have made out in the woods.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000PGPGQC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

really old review of mine, but check out the setup for it.

It's a nalgene, with one of these sweet little puppies attached. It works best for teas that don't really get bitter with long brew times. At $20-odd for it and the nalgene together, it is cheaper than many specialty thermoses. (and yes, a thick sock works as the best kind of tea cozy, plus, most of us own socks, so the cozy is essentially free.

In doing research I found this.

I own several nalgenes, so this is amazing.

I would put the leaves straight in the bottle and use the strainer as just that.

You could try out one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Portable-Butane-Stove-Camping-Burner/dp/B000RA8V1S

I find the portable butane burners to be unbearably under powered and the butane canisters seem to get used up really quickly.

I would go with a propane cooktop that you can hook a 20lb propane tank up to. And find a place you can fill the propane tank, instead of exchanging it. It's often like 1/2 the cost to refill.

EDIT: One of these would be even more fun.

Does this mean something like this won't be allowed? Is butane a flammable liquid? Sorry if this is a really stupid question, but I don't want to bring a huge grill for just my friend and I.

I have only used then on gas ranges or this little gem. But I think you will be fine. If anything, when you are the at restaurant supply store, grab one of those burners and then you can break it out whenever you need to get some consistent heat either for stir frying, making eggs, or heating up that cast iron to get a nice sear on your steak. That little butane burner is a life saver.

1. Answered adequately by others, no additional comment :)
   
   
2. Part of the game is not fighting the dust and just learning to accept it will get on everything. You don't need to ziplock everything to protect it - just get dusty my friend! I usually clean the tent out (shake the blankets outside etc) every couple days.
   
   
3. Answered adequately by others, no additional comment :)
   
   
4. Cooking is fine, and I'd go crazy if I couldn't make hot food! Get one of those small asian butane stoves. They are only like $15 or $20 and I've had the same one for almost a decade of burns. Army surplus stores or Asian markets are good places to buy locally. Cook a meal at home first with it to get the hang of it. Two or three butane canisters will last a week. (BUTANE - not propane). I cook inside my tent with lots of ventilation to avoid carbon monoxide poisoning. (The wind makes it hard to cook if you are outside).
   
   
5. Best to read up the various threads about what foods to bring. It really depends what your cooler situation is and how dedicated you will be to buying ice. And I can't stress this enough: your food preferences and taste will change once on playa. Normally I like protein bars but on playa they are disgusting for example. Granola bars, however, are great. Salty food is good. Fresh veggies are great but take up a lot of precious room in the cooler and are likely to get smushed/bruised/damaged by other bulkier items.

I use two stoves very similar to these for camping. Fuel is a little hard to find, but cheap, easy to handle and lasts quite a while. They seem to put out more concentrated heat than the gas stove in my house, so water boils faster, and still have enough control to not burn food in a pan. The ignition works flawless, too.

I'm unsure about their indoor safety, mostly because of the warning printed on them. They state that they are approved for camping use outdoors and commercial indoor use only. No idea if thats just regulatory, or if commercial structures have standards for ventilation.

This is the exact model I have:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RA8V1S

I have looked a these, but still prefer a Light My Fire [Firesteel] (http://www.amazon.com/Light-Fire-Original-Swedish-FireSteel/dp/B0013L2DKU/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1412084534&sr=1-2&keywords=light+my+fire+firesteel) for about the same price. Makes sparks whether it is wet or dry and fewer moving parts or things to break. Took me about 4-5 years to wear out my first one.

IIRC drinks can are aluminium, so I don't think it will spark unfortunately. If you wanted something that will spark look for steel or iron... or go to a camping store and pick up a cheap flint and steel like this and believe me you will get ridiculous sparks

ok here's one random one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0013L2DKU/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2PMA0MWVQ27ZZ&coliid=INY2OPVM6JTUO&psc=1

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Thanks for the contest!

We sometimes send black or kalamata olives. Our daughter also really likes snap peas.

Other fruit we send that you didn't mention - melon of all types, bananas (this banana holder does a good job keeping them from getting bruised:
http://smile.amazon.com/Peregrine-609230-Banana-Saver-Yellow/dp/B002A8HSXW )
dried apples, raisins, other dried fruit.

We use these 'packit' frozen lunch bags, that keep our daughters lunch cold enough until lunch time:
http://smile.amazon.com/PackIt-Freezable-Lunch-Closure-Ziggy/dp/B00IAY6HAA/

And we sent sliced carrots, peppers, and cucumbers with a little bit of ranch dressing or hummus in one of these:
http://smile.amazon.com/LunchBots-Proof-Condiment-Containers-1-5-Ounce/dp/B008AZ0RPU/

If you get the freezer lunch bag, you could also do yogurt tubes.

Roasted kale chips (lots of recipes online for these)

We make our own granola, and sometimes we send bags of that. You could probably find some decent granola to buy if you don't want to make it.

Small fuel bottle and maybe even one of those Slime mini air pumps if you're going to be offroad where the chances of getting a flat are greatly increased.

I carried lots of shit with my KLR like sockets and spares and stubby wrenches and fuel and the air pump and tubes etc etc etc.

How small? Iso canister stoves are basically the standard for hiking - something like this as a small, cheap and light stove, which screws straight on to a fuel canister like this. You can also opt for white fuel stoves like this one if international fuel availability or extreme cold weather performance matters. They use refillable fuel bottles that come in various sizes to meet your need. Finally, alcohol stoves are fairly popular as a lightweight, if slower, option - I have this one, though plenty of people make their own from aluminum or tin cans. Fuel can be carried in pretty much whatever, since you just pour some into the stove before use.

Get a canister of spare fuel. Always useful to have. I have this one It can also be used to store propane and other flammible liquids.

My buddy just has 2 1 gal stainless steel tanks that he throws in a backpack.

My dad has a left side number rear number plate that he bolts onto his KTM.

http://www.motosport.com/acerbis-auxiliary-handlebar-fuel-tank

https://www.amazon.com/MSR-MSRFUELBOTT-Fuel-Bottle/dp/B002L1413S

Realistically I just carry a fuel bottle for the stove with some gasoline in it. That way I can run the stove, but if I need it there's also a little spare fuel for the bike.

If I need to move it back and forth, a few feet of this:
https://www.lowes.com/pd/EASTMAN-3-8-in-x-20-ft-PVC-Clear-Vinyl-Tubing/1000180543
Will make a siphon just fine.

ETA: These are the fuel bottles that the stove uses:
https://www.amazon.com/MSR-MSRFUELBOTT-Fuel-Bottle/dp/B002L1413S

Good idea. You mean something like this, right? https://www.amazon.com/MSR-MSRFUELBOTT-Fuel-Bottle/dp/B002L1413S

How portable and similar to your home setup do you want?

There are options like this collapsible pour-over, granted it has a smaller hole on the bottom when compared to a V60, but if small is a propriety it could work. There are also smaller and lighter options out there.

Also, what is your heat source and Kettle situation? Immersion boiler, camp stove, microwave, etc.

Do you want it to nest, fit in its own case, the side of the suitcase?

We need more details if you want a more detailed response. I have a few different travel setups depending on the trip and number of people I plan on serving. Everything from backpacking to multi-month work trips out of my car and hotel rooms.

https://www.amazon.com/GSI-Outdoors-79480-Collapsible-Coffee/dp/B002YT2CII/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469727601&sr=8-1&keywords=camping+coffee+filter


This coffee drip works great and collapses on itself for easy packing.

Look into backpacking meals. There are some good packs you can get where you just add hot water, but backpacking meal lists will be good, because they usually assume little access to refrigeration.

For coffee, something like this might be good, if they can make boiling water: GSI Outdoors 79480 Collapsible Java Drip Coffee Maker https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002YT2CII/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_kYcrxb3XM8RR3

Basically... I think you should think of this as a kind of extended camping trip when it comes to looking at food.

Everything you have here is going to take a lot of work moving back and forth. When I travel, I bring my Mini Mill, my scale, a collapsible pour over cone, and a small mason jar of beans. I would suggest just getting a cheap scale and a V60 (or similar) for work. You could honestly grind at home and put into plastic bags with the air out of them each morning. The beans will age a little bit, but will be close to fresh and will save you lugging a grinder, too. Also helps keep coworkers from staring at you funny while you crank the hand grinder.

Edit: Just realized I didn't really answer your question. I really like that bag you posted, but feel that a backpack would be easier to take on a bike. If you wrap everything really well, you should be able to avoid breaking anything.

Outside of instant coffee (and since the Ekobrew may be out), has anyone tried any of the backcountry portable drip filter coffee makers?

1. GSI Outdoors Collapsible Coffee
   
2. Cuissential SlickDrip

> Edit: found a collapsible one from gsi

I have this, works well...put it on top of a nalgene, load it with the correct amount of coffee, and you get a pretty decent amount of coffee, but you have to stay there an pour it over (no big deal).

Tip: allow the coffee to "bloom" by pouring enough water in to wet the dry coffee, then stop...once the coffee is wet, continue pouring the full amount of water.

How would that compare to this? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002YT2CII/ref=s9u_simh_gw_i2?ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pd_rd_i=B002YT2CII&pd_rd_r=RGTMG15YA1DAA6Q521M1&pd_rd_w=ZnDnr&pd_rd_wg=hJftB&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=WE85CEDP5N8Q1F65PY0G&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=1cf9d009-399c-49e1-901a-7b8786e59436&pf_rd_i=desktop

Check out the CRKT Eat'n Tool. I keep one on my EDC bag for when I forget to grab utensils when I grab a quick dinner somewhere.

https://www.amazon.com/Columbia-River-Knife-Tool-9100C/dp/B0030IRKHA

Thanks for the link! We actually already replaced them with pretty much exactly that, although not that specific one. That's what I would recommend too, although situationally this can actually work really well too: https://smile.amazon.com/CRKT-Spork-Outdoor-Multi-Tool/dp/B0030IRKHA

It was actually posted as a mallninja item a few days ago. It's one of those things that's stupid unless you have a very specific purpose for it and then it's incredibly useful.

quick edit: It does have the same problem with the tines being too small, but if you happen to have nuts and bolts of the included sizes on your gear, it can help a lot with that. The titanium spork you liked is probably overall better for most situations. The latter is really very situational.

I actually immediately bought one of these (snow peak i think) the first time I saw it because I thought
"oh man! wait until the archaeologists find this after i die! they will think the spork was the most valuable of utensils, what a great gag!"
I can't say I've really grown up at all since then but I have switched to using this spork instead as it is pretty handy, fun, and cheap.

Better explanations are in the Imgur album, but heres a list of crap.

1. Leatherman Supertool
   
   
2. Obstructures Aluminum Plate Wallet System
   
   
3. Jon Lota Keyflip
   
   
4. Derpy Hooves
   
   5A) 1952 Scheaffer Valiant
   
   5B) Lamy Safari
   
   6A) Karas Kustoms The Bolt
   
   6B) Karas Kustoms Brass Render K
   
   6C) Karas Kustoms Aluminum Render K
   
   
5. Ian Schon Design Space Pen
   
   8A) Gerber Mini Paraframe(you can get this for $8 on this link)
   
   8B) Leatherman C33Tx
   
   8C) Winchester ?? Anniversary Edition Box Set
   
   
6. Pentalic Pocket Notebook (Cant find the graph paper version)
   
   
7. Otterbox Defender for Galaxy S3 (This thing is bulletproof)
   
   
8. CRKT Eat'N Tool
   
   
9. RAINBOWDASH!

I've got half a dozen different stoves and a soda can side-burner alcohol stove was still what I preferred to use on my last trip. The only real downside is that it consumes a decent volume of fuel. For a 3 day/2 night trip I bring a full 8 oz to cook 2 freeze dried dinners and hot drinks in the morning.

Another great budget alternative are these imported canister stoves. I bought two just in case they were unreliable, but so far, they've been absolutely great. No worse than a MSR Pocket Rocket or Snow Peak GigaPower.

An expedition stove with fuel bottle and pump - the kind you need to prime - I'll ONLY bring that for snow camping. It's just not worth the size, weight, and hassle to light.

My favorite thing about alcohol stoves is that they're so quiet and peaceful. There's really something to the name of the site zenstoves.net (by the way, for backpacking/boiling water, I recommend the supercat). If you get a chance, watch it burn at night. Looks amazing.

A good starter peak to camp on is Timber Mountain. There is a broad flat area just North-East of the summit that is perfect for camping. It's a shorter hike than Cucamonga but starts at the same trailhead (Icehouse Canyon).

Columbine Spring used to be reliable but last time I was there (a few months ago) it was barely a trickle. So you would likely need to pack all your water with you.

As for a stove I've been using the same cheap $7 backpacking stove from Amazon for years. I recommend it to anyone just starting out since it is cheap and you can start to get a feel for what you want to cook when you backpack. Then later you can always upgrade to a JetBoil or Pocket Rocket and keep your first stove as a backup.

I recommend an aluminum pot with a bail handle like this Open Country Non-Stick Covered Kettle, 2-Quart but something bigger would be better, maybe the Trangia

And for a stove a Kovea Spider or something similar with a detached fuel tank.

hikin_jim I am seeing this on Amazon for $39. Anyone know if this is a knockoff or the real deal?
https://www.amazon.com/Kovea-Spider-Stove-Small-Silver/dp/B00CFPIPKA/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1512085504&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=SKU%3A+KB-1109

Hot meals backpacking are best. Cold Kovea Spider still cooks.

Yeah I use a small butane tank with mine. I also have this small lightweight metal 2 pot combo set and the stove and butane tank fits inside it perfectly:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FQZEYWE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_YdOWAb09TMGYY

If you want the same exact design, here are two brands who make the same thing.

NuoYa001 or the Optimus Terra Weekend HE .95L Pot

Another option is to get this super small backpacking stove ($12) and this backpacking cookware kit ($12) and you can use it to boil water for coffee/tea and make ramen or get one of those dehydrated meal packs at REI/any sporting goods store. I prefer this since there's not really any cleanup involved

I own this and love it.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B00FQZEYWE/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1511926435&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Camping+pot&dpPl=1&dpID=41c8oo9DstL&ref=plSrch

My partner and I road trip often and keep a little camp stove, a can of propane and a camp pot in our car. Would something like that work for you? You could get all that stuff for about $25 and that would help you heat up meals on the go. You could make endless combinations of beans, grains/rice and roasted or sauteed veggies - all prepped on Sundays.

https://smile.amazon.com/Petforu-Camping-Propane-Canister-Cooking/dp/B015SRB58U/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1506717442&sr=8-13&keywords=propane+camping+stove

I have that pot and got it from Amazon with a stove: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015SRB58U

The pot is alright but the handles will melt easily if they get nicked by flame. I didn't have any issues with offgassing but perhaps it is the rubber handles? The rubber could be cut off.

If it helps, this is pretty similar for around the same price: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015SRB58U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This one has a foldable base instead of the fixed of that one, but otherwise it looks pretty close. I purchased the Amazon one a week ago, but haven't had a chance to test/use it yet so I can't speak to its usefulness/durability. It does seem at least decently constructed though, from my initial inspection.

I started working on a kit and figure it would be good to brainstorm about it a bit. While it probably doesn't deserve it's own thread, I'd like some input about it if possible since I still have time to change things around before I order anything.

I plan on going hiking/camping anywhere from 1-3 days and potentially even more if possible.
The pack I'm currently looking into is the 5.11 Rush 72 which should fit the bill. It has a pouch for my hydration bladder (which is a must have since I live in an arid region and running water can be rare depending on where you are located) as well as the molle for additional customization if needed.

When I'm out camping I like to have the ability to fry food as well as grill it. I have a makeshift grill that I constructed out of four tent pegs and a grate so I have that covered. In regards to frying I found a cook set that seems like it would be useful for my needs. I doubt that I would bring the entire set with me (besides the frying pan and maybe the pot if I have dried meals) which should cut down on weight a little.

For my sleep system I'm looking at a Aqua Quest 10x7 ultralight tarp, paracord (for hanging the tarp plus other uses if needed), and an OutdoorsmanLab Ultralight Sleeping Pad. I'm not entirely sure that I need a tarp since it rarely rains here but I can see it having potential against sun/wind. Both the sleeping pad and tarp fold up to about the size of a bottle which will allow me to store more gear if needed. I already have a sleeping bag insert and mummy bag if need be but I don't see myself using them for 3/4ths of the year.

Lastly, I'm looking at getting a Mora Companion for bushcraft related activities.

In total all the gear weighs about five pounds which seems reasonable enough. Let me know what you guys think.

Civ here, gonna get an IR reflective flag patch like the one you have (I'm guessing). I thought you only get the reverse flag for the shoulder?

Also

Water, check
TQ, check
ammo, check,
pack, check.

• 1 change of clothes
  
• Provisions (high calorie good nutrient)
  
• large knife
  
• concealed back up pistol in case you are disarmed
  
• 1 bobby pin
  
• 2 handcuff keys - one in your bag and one on your person.
  
• pocket saw
  
• water filter
  
• a good pair of gloves (I've got camelback magnums, they're awesome)
  
• Compass
  
• Magnesium fire starter
  
• emergency blanket
  
• bug spray you'll thank me
  
• a couple contractor trash bags (this will help waterproof your shelter and it's amazing insulation.
  
• medkit (you said its on your list)
  
• sighting device (unless you have a scope on your rifle)
  
• flares/flaregun
  
• chemical lights
  
• flashlight
  
• bear mace
  
• compact cookset for boiling water, cooking/retaining nutrients.
  
• 100 ft paracord
  
• toilet paper or wet wipes (trust me)
  
• 1 bar antimicrobal/antibacterial soap
  
• toothbrush/paste
  
  and then depending on where you live, you may want some climbing equpment, like a descender or ascender and some rope.

MalloMe has a mess kit which is available for around 25 bucks on Amazon. Its pretty decent.

https://www.amazon.com/MalloMe-Camping-Cookware-Folding-10-Piece/dp/B01743BX1A/

GSI Outdoors makes a pretty handy kit. Expensive, though.

I have this Mallome set. So far pretty good, but only really big enough for 1-2 people. I picked it up after deciding to downsize my cook kit.

I almost never take cast iron with me, as I find it really heavy and bulky to bring along, even car camping, and it seems like a lot for 2 people.

go to an asian grocery store and buy one of these. they are pretty cheap and small. now you can cook at a park or something.

GAS ONE GS-1000 7,650 BTU Portable Butane Gas Stove Automatic Ignition with Carrying Case, CSA Listed (Stove) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MYGMO6M

I have one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Camp-Chef-Camping-Outdoor-Burner/dp/B0013LLSZG/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=coleman+oven+grill&qid=1557775283&s=gateway&sr=8-9

And one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/Proctor-Silex-34103-Fifth-Burner/dp/B073R9TCP3/ref=sxin_2_ac_d_pm?keywords=hot+plate&pd_rd_i=B073R9TCP3&pd_rd_r=4ee7b29a-7cfd-46b2-86cc-e1a18755718f&pd_rd_w=zlJR8&pd_rd_wg=YxhxO&pf_rd_p=5cc8abfe-8f78-4f34-b19f-d09d6ea0dca4&pf_rd_r=P99QWN38FYTV01DEXED0&qid=1557775321&s=gateway

plus one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/GS-1000-Portable-Automatic-Ignition-Carrying/dp/B01MYGMO6M/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1VPXER597IZZ1&keywords=butane+stove&qid=1557775343&s=gateway&sprefix=butane+%2Caps%2C210&sr=8-3

To be used at any time. I also have a propane griddle and a sous vide. They may or may not travel with me, depending on a lot, but that's what I use.

Small butane stoves like this one get stupid hot and the fuel cells last a long time. You could also just get a hot plate or something.

A setup like this (w the fuel can Pictured) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N5O7551/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_JQ0ZAb9WFRMNV

is what I use when hiking. Small and lightweight. I'm not sure if that's something you'd be allowed to have in the field though.

A camping canister stove might work. Something like this.

I have the older version that I use for backpacking and it's basically a single burner that you might have on a stove top.

This is my 10oz luxury kitchen

https://www.traildesigns.com/products/fissure-ti-tri

with wood burning insert and kojin stove

With Evernew 760 mug
EVERNEW 760FD Titanium Cup https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C6H8KX8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_qhRKDbDR8GG4E

and this lid
TOAKS Titanium Lid for TOAKS Cups... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072BTZ7RM?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

And this dry baking pan (yes you can!)
https://www.flatcatgear.com/shop/snow-leopard-baking-pan/

this esbit holder
https://www.flatcatgear.com/shop/epicurean-ul15-stove/

This alcohol stove
https://www.minibulldesign.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=301&idcategory=18

This silicone band to hold it all together (just one X band)
Grifiti Band Joes Cross Style 4, 6, 9, 12 Inch Assorted 20 Pack X Shape Wrist, Books, Cameras, Art, Cooking, Wrapping, Exercise, Bag Wraps, Dungies, Silicone Rubber https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018WQII2A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_YwRKDbP7626DD


Mug + cone + wood burning insert + esbit holder + baking pan + remote alcohol stove + mini bic lighter + tinder = 10.2 oz and it ALL fits inside the can (yep, all at the same time)


Yes, all up its pretty heavy but you’ll almost never need or want to have all the options on a single trip but you could. More importantly, with this one kit you can adapt for a trip in any environment with any fuel and you can bake stuff in it too

BONUS!
this mug will also fit a BRS 3000T stove, bic lighter, and a 100g butane canister inside (but not at the same time as all the other stuff)
BRS Only 25g BRS-3000T Ultra-Light Titanium Alloy Camping Stove Gas Stoves Outdoor Cooker Outdoor Stove Gas Stove Miniature Portable Picnic https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XNLSNFR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_LsRKDbZ47R6HQ

I tried using a non venting gas can, transmission fluid bottles and an old MSR Stove fuel bottle.

1. Ditch the bleached filters.
   
2. You can do this without the machine being on, but why do it at all? It is an entire coffee machine and probably does a great job at water distribution.
   
   There are some really nice setups to pour over on Amazon. I got [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002YT2CII/](this one) and use it for all of my coffee-making needs now. I can put it over a pot to make enough for the entire family, or put it over a single cup to make some just for me. It's all silicone and more food-safe than most machines/other pour-overs, and it collapses so you can take it anywhere.

Don't use a pot; get a Cambro
http://www.webstaurantstore.com/cambro-8sfscw135-8-qt-clear-square-polycarbonate-food-storage-container-with-winter-rose-gradations/2148SFSCW.html

Or a mini-cooler
http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-FlipLid-Personal-Cooler-Blue/dp/B000IBWI42/