(Part 2) Best playstation 4 controllers according to redditors

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THIS IS AWESOME!

I personally use a PS4 controller and LOVE it! They are right AT your 50 dollar limit though :-/

Love to see the spreading of cheer!

here is a link if interested: controller

For those asking about the controller: https://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Assault-Commander-KeyPad-Gamepad-Controller/dp/B01L8QL2N8

• Blue Wave available for $38.00
  
• Silver available for $39.00
  
• Gold available for $39.99
  
• Green Camouflage available for $39.99
  
• Magma Red available for $39.99

On a similar note, I recently purchased a DualShock 4 PlayStation controller just for gaming on my Mac. No driver needed; Steam and lots of other games natively support it. It pairs via Bluetooth by pressing the PS and Share buttons for a few seconds. You can also use it wired via USB. I would highly recommend it.

Jesus Christ fine if it will make you shut the fuck up and go away.

https://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Wireless-Controller-PlayStation-Camouflage-4/dp/B00KVP78FE

I would recommend the tekken 7 rap4, same parts but different layout (arguably more ergonomic) and more wrist space AND has headphone plug support.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019ZD1I6C

Check the comment section for more pictures

The ps move controllers are needed for this game

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Move-Motion-Controllers-Pack-4/dp/B07B4BFC6S

Knuckles are too expensive, I expected maybe $150 in order to get most vive owners on board, but as one comparison Sony is still selling these decade old lollypops for $90: https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Move-Motion-Controllers-Pack-4/dp/B07B4BFC6S

Hori has you covered.

I ordered my numbers wrong. The DS4 is 47, UC4 is 54.

https://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Wireless-Controller-PlayStation-Wave-4/dp/B00KVP780Y/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1466129648&sr=8-4&keywords=ds4

https://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Assault-Commander-KeyPad-Gamepad-Controller/dp/B01L8QL2N8

ONLY 8 LEFT IN STOCK GET THEM NOW

Is this the same one? Cuz if it is, it's available in the US as well

This dongle paired with DS4W is a god send. I used to have everything hooked up with wires and that was a huge pain in the ass. Also using a bluetooth dongle with windows 7 didn't work for shit, even after countless tinkering. I bought the ps4 dongle separate. Plugged it in, hit the button to pair, picked up the controller immediately, and DS4W picked it up right after. I haven't had any issues with it not working on any games.

However there is one flaw, and that is if you want to hook up another controller you will have to buy another dongle. Sucks, but buying a second dongle will allow you to hook up another controller.

and I guess one other flaw is the battery life of the PS4 controller, but I purchased https://www.amazon.com/Collective-Minds-Chatboost-Battery-playstation-4/dp/B00QU93WW8

Works like a champ, and doubles my battery life. and now I can use that bluetooth dongle I bought originally to hook up the controller with, to that chatpad.

Qanba Obsidian

• Currently on sale on their main website.
  
  HORI Fighting Edge
  
  Razer Panthera Evo
  
  Hori Rap 4 Kai
  
  The 'Hori Rap 4 Kai' used to be the most popular until the 'Qanba Obsidian' came along. From what I've seen, the Qanba Obsidian is the most popular stick right now. The 'Razer Panthera Evo' is an updated version of the 'Razer Panthera' and it's a solid stick from what I've read.
  
  Personally, I'm looking to get the 'Hori Fighting Edge' next because the button layout got me curious and the aluminum panel seems really nice.
  
  
  
  I have the Qanba Obsidian and Hori Rap 4 Kai so I can speak a little about those.
  
  >Qanba Obsidian
  
  Quite big in size and heavy. Definitely sturdy. Lots of room to rest your arms on. Custom art work replacement is easy. Same goes for replacing the buttons. The miscellaneous buttons up top are a little too small and fat fingering a button happens sometimes.
  
  >Hori Rap 4 Kai
  
  The size and weight lean towards average. It'll rest on your lap nicely and not feel overbearing. Custom art work replacement requires a little work because the default artwork has strong adhesive binding it to the steel plate inside. Replacing buttons is no problem. Miscellaneous buttons are on the right side underneath the right wing. You can also rebind buttons.

There is a remote control available:

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Universal-Media-Remote/dp/B00ZJRHSZO

I've always been a fan of blue, but as I've gotten older, the shade I prefer has changed.

A great comparison is the PS4 controller I was considering and the one I bought.

I was considering the blue controller but saw the gray blue controller and liked it more, which also lines up more with how my preference has changed over the years.

I tend to prefer more subdued blues than the brighter blues I preferred when I was younger.

There is
Wireless Controller Dualshock 4 Magma Red (Japan Import) [Playstation 4] by Sony Computer Entertainment http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FMNNQAQ/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_Xyb9tb1D4STX4

The official one is really good.

Awesome thanks for all the responds guys!
im probably going to try it on PC and see how it plays maybe end up getting it for both.
looking into getting that new Tekken 7 Hori fightstick. i really like the black one thats meant for PS4 but since dont have a PS4 im kinda stuck getting the white one unless i only play on PC or just get a brooks super converter. i also noticed that the PS4 tekken fightstick has a few more features like Turbo that the xbox one version does not.

https://www.amazon.com/Arcade-Tekken-Fight-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed/dp/B019ZD1I6C/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1495264652&sr=1-1&keywords=Tekken+7+fightstick

https://www.amazon.com/Arcade-Hayabusa-Tekken-Officially-Licensed-Microsoft/dp/B019ZDL970/ref=nav_signin?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1495264652&sr=1-2&keywords=Tekken+7+fightstick&

take a look if your dare...very tempting..lol

yup, you use the keyboard attachment like a normal attachment and the ds4 touchpad becomes the mouse, although it initially needs some tweaking for sensitivity / button clicking. i use this program to configure it:
http://ds4windows.com/

and this is the keyboard attachment:

http://www.amazon.com/Collective-Minds-Chatboost-Battery-playstation-4/dp/B00QU93WW8/ref=pd_sim_63_10?ie=UTF8&dpID=41BqrkTTpiL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0F69SPHX4TBVTQW5ESQG

Disclaimer: its a bit awkward and first. takes a while to tweak and get use to typing while using the controller. so be prepared for that if you decide to go this route

Edit: you can also use the gyroscope for mouse to. like tilting you controller to move the mouse. thats how i have it now

I bought one of these on sale for 10$. https://www.amazon.com/Ortz%C2%AE-PS4-Wireless-Mini-Bluetooth-Keyboard/dp/B00UMF35MS

Fightstick

PCB

Joystick

Button plunger

Button base

Dustwasher

Shaft

Battop

LED's

Driver

Breakout board

I think I spent around $600 on it, though half of that was the fightstick itself. I'm not finished however, there are a few more things I want to add:

1. Custom panel, preferably one with a Sega 8 button layout, and some custom artwork, preferable of Super Sentai (I was thinking of doing it with Kyuranger and making the joystick a balltop of one of the Kyutama but I like battops more)
   
   
2. A gold plunger for the 24mm button
   
   
3. A hollow sanwa clear battop for an LED that will diffuse the light properly
   
   
4. A different cable, preferably a braided or flat cable
   
   
   What do you guys think? This is my first major mod on a fightstick, I've never changed a PCB before though I didn't have to do any soldering so it wasn't really that hard

$24.99 on Amazon

The red one isn't in North America yet, but lemme give you a link.

http://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Wireless-Controller-PlayStation-Magma-Red/dp/B00FMNNQAQ

Yeah they are and trust me you're not alone. Both Sony and Microsoft cut back on their controllers this gen and are using cheaper plastic parts. There are plenty of videos on youtube about it. If it's not breaking, you're not playing.

I've owned the OG PS4 and now the Pro and both controllers crapped out within a few months. I strongly recommend this one.

https://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Wireless-Controller-PlayStation-Wave-4/dp/B01MQGVH94?th=1

Someone recommended that one to me (blue controller) and knock on wood it's always worked without fail. You don't have to get it via Amazon. Best Buy, Walmart etc... also sell them.

This is like the All red controller vs the Red and Black controller.

All Red

Red and black

IIRC, the red and black are only available over seas whereas the all red is state side. (I have the red and black because the all red was not available at the time. Of course it became available, 3 weeks or so after I bought it)

Here is the mod kit: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K7UHG8W/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I just followed instructions online about how to replace thumbsticks. Opening the controller was a little scary and I thought I broke it like 3 times just because the parts need to be pulled at and popped out, but in the end, everything is working 100% and is officially the coolest and best feeling controller I have ever owned

Hey /u/Gemini_99, I have a HORI Tac Grip that I purchased but never ended up using. It's basically half a controller. Sounds like it might be perfect for you. It can be set up to either emulate a PS4 controller, or function as a native KB+M. And you can plug any mouse into it too. I would happily give it to you for free if you think it might be good... it's just collecting dust right now.

Sony PS4 Dualshock Wireless Controller - Sunset Orange https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077H94D1D/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_O2p4AbF15W63C

Sony PS4 Dualshock Wireless Controller - Sunset Orange https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077H94D1D/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_gav4Ab2AJY57A

Btw

How can Blizzard ban people for using official Sony licensed PS4 hardware?

HORI TAC Grip

HORI TAC Assault

HORI TAC Pro

I mean an alternative for a little more money (sadly) is the hour tac Pro here

That's probably right, but I doubt they will start detecting or banning them now since they've started licensing some of these KB/M controllers them self.

PS4 2 years ago https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Programmable-Controller-Officially-Licensed-4/dp/B07MFN1QCS?th=1

Xbox recently https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Turret-Wireless-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B07QXLC24V

Here's my setup

Yes, yes, I know, I have a CRT instead of a flat screen TV. If you'd also notice, I play more old consoles than new and CRT is superior to flat screen for them (and much cheaper). Ideally I'll be upgrading to a small (~20") Sony Trinitron. The 32" ones are free and widely available but they're sooooo big and heavy.

Type|Item
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CPU | Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard | MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory | Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage | Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card | Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card
Case | Corsair Graphite Series 230T Grey ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply | EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive | LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit)
Keyboard | Logitech G710 Wired Gaming Keyboard
Mouse | Cobra E-3lue Wired Optical Mouse
Controller | DualShock 4 Wireless Controller for PlayStation 4 - Glacier White (gifted from /u/MaximumDan) with a DS4 keyboard
Controller | Nintendo Wii Remote Plus with a cheap light gun accessory and a racing wheel
Controller | 2x GCN, DS3, 2x DS2, Ouya

Just got a Wii motion sensor bar so I can play light gun games on my PC and use the WiiMote as a remote control. Also thinking about racing games with the steering wheel attachment. Monitors are from Craigslist ($35 and $10 respectively). CRT was a gift from a friend. It's dying though (discoloration). Pre-amp and speakers were also gifts from friends. PC and consoles I bought myself.

Here is the link from amazon

I have silicone covers, and they work great...but I am heavily considering getting these replacements.

picture

amazon link

Im using this one. It’s cheap and does everything I like it to. Helps with binging and is a super easy set up. I’m very happy with my decision to get one.

PDP Bluetooth Enabled Media Remote Control for Playstation 4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072C7YZFC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_3YTiDbAWY4V14

That's a good reason. It mostly comes down to small preferences like that. Sticks are fine. I use them myself actually (I have a gen 1 TE, a shitty gen 1 SE, and a Hori VLX). It's just not strictly better like our FGC forefathers used to claim lol

Speaking of which, would you be interested in buying a VLX? I have one, but I never use it anymore. I'm actually thinking about switching to hitbox. The backplate for the little compartment on the left is gone but besides that it's in perfect condition.

I bought this off Amazon and love it

http://www.amazon.com/Ortz%C2%AE-PS4-Wireless-Mini-Bluetooth-Keyboard/dp/B00UMF35MS

Much better than having to balance a keyboard and swap between the two, however if you're a fast typer this will feel a little slower since its more like texting on a keyboard phone rather than typing with a normal pc kb.

When I was playing a lot, I used a keyboard that attached to my ps4 controller. It plugged into the mic slot that is under the PS button so the keyboard sat in between the handles of the controller. Here is an Amazon link to the one I have.

https://www.amazon.com/Collective-Minds-Chatboost-Battery-playstation-4/dp/B00QU93WW8

Looks to be no according to the consensus of Amazon reviews. I think I will stick with DS4Windows. On another note, Amazon is having a Gen 2 DS4 controller sale for $40

The new v2 model number is: CECH-ZCM2U

It should have a micro usb port and a bigger battery. The Move button logo should be black not silver like the old ones. Available on Amazon


https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Move-Motion-Controllers-Pack-4/dp/B07B4BFC6S/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1542908876&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Move+controller&dpPl=1&dpID=41evNx-b4VL&ref=plSrch

https://www.amazon.com/KontrolFreek-Performance-Grips-PlayStation-Controller-4/dp/B00ZJ8I7Y4/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1542392237&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=ps4+kontrol+freek+grips&dpPl=1&dpID=41x-UaGll0L&ref=plSrch

I honestly don’t know what to recommend. I sent my Scuf Vantage in for repair earlier this month, it was suffering from severe dead zones in both sticks that made playing any shooters impossible since you just can’t fine tune your aim when there’s dead zones. My Vantage also suffered from an odd issue where the analog sticks would make clicking sounds without even pushing them down to activate sprint, you could also physically feel like they were hitting something internally, the issue still persisted even after removing the analog sticks and swapping them out for different ones.

I purchased a Nacon Revolution Pro 2 controller while I wait for my Vantage to return from repair, but I also can’t recommend it since The triggers are shaped oddly, so when you guys push them to shoot it kinda sinks your fingers in at an angle and it just doesn’t feel right. The Nacon does offer a lot of customization via the pc software that lets you tweak dead zones and how the controller behaves, but even with tweaking it still feels weird while playing games, also the Nacon isn’t wireless.

Right now I would recommend people to wait if they’re in the market for a pro controller, Astro announced their C40 TR controller which looks great, you can move the modules around, so if you like the stick DS4 stick layout you can have that, but if you like the Xbox one stick layout you can move the analog sticks around and have it set up like an Xbox one controller. The Astro C40 is also the same price as the Scuf Vantage at 200 bucks, only downside is that it releases in March of next year, but if I personally didn’t already purchase a Vantage I would have just waited for the Astro controller, but they didn’t announce it back when I was looking for a new controller. ASTRO Gaming C40 TR Controller - PlayStation 4 - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KF1FB1F/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_LTs8Bb8HAR5D0

US Version Here - tracking/search queries removed from link. Note: prices are fluctuating for some reason - Blue Camo has increased $3 in price already.

Prices:

• $44 - Gold
  
• $50 - Blue Camo
  
• $47 - Crystal
  
• $47 - Green Camo
  
• $47 - Black
  
• $47 - Magma Red
  
• $56 - Midnight Blue
  

I bought the stick as well he was selling 12 sticks as a new seller from Texas, USA all gone within 24 hrs. The Item has been dispatched.

This stick Hori Arcade Stick VLX retails for $300 here is the proof https://www.amazon.com/Arcade-Premium-Fighting-Stick-PlayStation-Licensed/dp/B015HAKX36/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499096208&sr=8-1&keywords=hori%2Barcade%2Bstick%2Bvlx&th=1 so either the seller is dumb or he is false advertising.

Anyway I'm sure Amazon are tough against cases like this.

I'm assuming you are on ps4/pc? There are a ton of good sticks to pick from.

• Hori Fighting edge
  
  
• Razer Panthera
  
  
• Qanba Obsidian
  
  
• Madcatz te2/te2+
  
  They are all in the $200 price range and are all great sticks. Personally I have a te2 and love it. For the most part, it just comes down to preference. If I had to pick, I'd probably go for the Panthera since I don't think Madcatz is making sticks again after they came back.
  
  All of these sticks besides the Hori fighting edge use sanwa parts. The Hori stick uses their own parts, but they are really solid from what I've heard (you can swap buttons/joysticks in any of these sticks, so it isn't the biggest deal).
  
  In terms of using custom art, the Te2 is probably the easiest. The Panthera and Te2 are the easest to mod overall because of their clamshell designs where you can open them up with buttons on the front, but all of these sticks are easy to mod.
  
  I've tried an obsidian and didn't like the shape of the case or the way it looks, but that is just my preference.
  
  I'd just look up each of the sticks and see which one looks best to you. You can't really go wrong with any of them.

The Glacier White DS4 is actually cheaper than the standard black controller right now on Amazon.

It would be nice to have the 20th Anniversary version, but releasing it publicly and separately would diminish the entire concept of what they were trying to do with the anniversary edition in the first place.

They have been selling them in Japan for awhile now. I'm sure you could find one online somewhere.

Edit: http://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Wireless-Controller-PlayStation-Magma-Red/dp/B00FMNNQAQ

Appears to still be going on. $50 is still high. Need to decide if I like her enough to buy her one for $50...

http://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Wireless-Controller-PlayStation-Glacier-4/dp/B00KVP76G0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420958459&sr=8-1&keywords=white+ds4+controller

Thanks for the heads up.

Yeah, I was looking at something like this or this (mods, let me know if links aren't allowed, I'll remove). Something comfortable for one hand while I draw with the other. I just don't know if I'd be able to set up the buttons as shortcuts in Clip like a regular keyboard.

Looks like there is a run on the Hori Pokken Pro Pad... guess you'll have to wait for the Nintendo Switch version.

http://www.gamestop.com/nintendo-switch/accessories/nintendo-switch-pokken-dx-tournament-pro-pad-controller/151190

I don't really have any other recommendations, other than the PS4 controller and a wireless dongle.

Own

PS4 Controller - Wave Blue: Great controller, no complaints. All of them are identical, but I do own a Wave Blue colored one.

Wireless Adaptor for PS4 Controller: Works great for me. Tried all those bluetooth dongles people use, but this has been the only thing that gives me 100% connection reliability.

Don't Own

Mayflash MAGIC-NS Universal Controller Adapter: This is just easier to find than the official PS4 controller wireless adapter, and looks a lot nicer, feature-wise.

Most Recommended, Cheap, and Still Better Than Others (That I Don't Own)

iBuffalo Controller (New Production): Might be better than the original run, but I don't own it, so I can't say for sure.

Full Console and Handheld Compatibility (That I Own)

Wii U Pro Controller: Is nice overall, but awkward to an Xbox 360/PlayStation 1/2/3/4 user, and I find the d-pad and face buttons a little on the small side.

PS3 Controller: Has an okay d-pad. Rest is fine.

Xbox 360 Controller: Has a terrible d-pad. Wireless dongles are prone to failure. Rest is fine.

Full Console and Handheld Compatibility (That I Don't Own)

8Bitdo Controllers: No opinion concerning them as I don't own any, but people around here seem to like them.

Nintendo Switch Pro Controller: Don't own it either. Compatible with RetroPie and Raspberry Pi's bluetooth, though I'd get Mayflash new universal wireless dongle I linked to earlier for it, to avoid the ghost inputs that happen over the Raspberry Pi's bluetooth.

Logitech Gamepad F310/F710: I did own the F310 at one point, but I didn't like the d-pad. F710 appears to use the exact same d-pad, with the added bonus of a wireless controller.

There's a media control you can get, nowhere near as expensive as another control

EDIT: Here you go

PlayStation 4 Universal Media Remote https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZJRHSZO/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_dJbFwbGGSSETF

Can I use a mini keyboard connected to the DS4 to map out some abilities and also use the cross bar?.

Ex: http://www.amazon.com/Ortz%C2%AE-PS4-Wireless-Mini-Bluetooth-Keyboard/dp/B00UMF35MS

Thanks!

This one? I wasn't sure if there were any others recommended since this only has 2.5 stars.

I have a HORI Real arcade Pro Viewlix with Kuro Buttons I purcahsed it with my preorder of tekken 7 awhile ago I love it.

https://www.amazon.com/Arcade-Premium-Fighting-PlayStation-Licensed-4/dp/B015HAKX36/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520563405&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=hori+taito+viewlix+rap

If he's playing a combination of both new games and older games, via emulators, I would strongly recommend the Dualshock 4 along with the adapter to get it working on PC

I use these. Can't go back now. They really help.

i have the keyboard to controller attachment with the mini-keyboard and it's not too bad, also functions as a controller battery extender. it is very literally a step up from using your on-screen interface and a step below using a usb keyboard/bluetooth keyboard. it is pretty cheap and light and fits into the controller in such as way that it doesn't make the controller uncomfortable at all. I have had no problems with it and in fact just leave it plugged in to the controller 100% of the time.

amazon link here

NP and good luck! If your heart is dead set on that design, $400 isn't a terrible deal considering a broken TE2+ goes for at least $200 (for some goddamn reason), the EZ mod/Brook UFB combo is another $140, and you'll be lucky to ever find red side panels to begin with, let alone pay less than $70-$100 for them.

Otherwise, you can save $150-200 or so and get a HORI pad that's just as good, if not better. They even make a Tekken 7 version if you can find it.

For Europeans, it has become much better.

UK:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/PlayStation-Move-Motion-Controllers-Pack/dp/B07B4BFC6S/

Netherlands:
https://www.nedgame.nl/

Italy:
https://www.amazon.it/gp/offer-listing/B079JCLPBC/ (select "new" alternatives - 75 Euro for a new twin pack)

...

I don't know if this works but maybe Australians can also order from some of these places?

$200. Link if you wanna buy it

I have this one. It works well my only gripe is that there is no touchpad equivalent button, but everything else works well.

PDP Bluetooth Enabled Media... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072C7YZFC?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

The move controllers with just buttons (these) are the ones that work with PSVR. You can either use the versions released with PS3 or newer updated ones for PS4: the only difference is that the newer version has longer battery life and uses micro usb to charge instead of mini usb. You'll want two move controllers as most games that require them require one for each hand.

The move controller with a thumbstick (this) is the navigation controller. It is unused in all currently released PSVR games and likely will not be used in the future as it cannot be tracked in VR by the camera. One game has been announced to support it, but even then people are skeptical as to whether that info is correct.

Got you covered! I use this with my PS4 and TV. Volume controls work through my sound bar without having to switch inputs. It works well.

Amazon US gave me an update saying I'd get mine next Tuesday. Link. Now where's that Magma Red?

Don't like the official 3rd party one bruh? ps4 Universal remote

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B019ZD1I6C/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1496369106&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=ps4+fightstick

I personally use a madcatz so

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00UHE4DHU/ref=mp_s_a_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1496369197&sr=8-17&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=ps4+fightstick&dpPl=1&dpID=4194Mg0w7eL&ref=plSrch


The main brands are madcatz, hori, qanba and razr.

Everyone seems to like those and you can usually customize them to your liking.

Some players like sanwa buttons but others like semitsu and some like ball top but others like bat top and some like heavy sticks but others...most like heavier sticks.

I've never heard anything bad about the brands I've mentioned.

Also, you can always customize the art work for cheap yourself so don't worry about how it looks.

I just ordered this one. Amazon is good about returns so im going to give it a shot and send it back if it sucks.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UMF35MS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If you have limited space and only 1-2 controllers, I’ve found the Nyko Modular Charge Station to be a good product. The one I have is different than the one pictured in the product listing on Amazon, but still works great.
If you watch Blu-rays or stream movies/TV with your PS, the PDP Bluetooth Enabled Media Remote Control is really nice to have. Sadly, it doesn’t work while playing games, as I had hoped in order to automate my gameplay of Injustice 2.

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Samsung 850 Pro 256GB SSD (OS X)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LMXBOP4/?tag=tonymacx86com-20

FenviUS 802.11AC Desktop WiFi Bluetooth Card FV-T919A (works native out of the box no drivers)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MDLG51U/?tag=tonymacx86com-20

Samsung 850 Evo 500GB SSD (Files, Games, etc)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OBRE5UE/?tag=tonymacx86com-20

EVGA G2 Gold 850W Power Supply Fully-Modular ATX
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IKDETOC/?tag=tonymacx86com-20

Corsair Air 240 MicroATX Mid Tower Case, White
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LA6Y5XQ/?tag=tonymacx86com-20

LG - 27" IPS LED 4K UHD FreeSync Monitor
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C3BZIIC/?tag=tonymacx86com-20

Logitech MX Master Mouse, Wireless
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TZR3WRM/?tag=tonymacx86com-20

Logitech K750 Black Mac Wireless Solar Powered Keyboard
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005L38VRU/?tag=tonymacx86com-20

Blue Yeti USB Microphone
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002VA464S/?tag=tonymacx86com-20

GLTECK XXL Large Mouse Pad
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FTQUC3Y/?tag=tonymacx86com-20

DualShock PS4 Controller White Bluetooth Game Pad :)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KVP76G0/?tag=tonymacx86com-20

Mackie CR3 - 3" Creative Reference Multimedia Monitors (Pair)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KVEIY4E/?tag=tonymacx86com-20

Audio Technica M50X Professional Studio Monitor Headphones
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HVLUR86/?tag=tonymacx86com-20

I thought the OG were PS3 moves and the new ones are labeled as PS4 Moves

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Move-Motion-Controllers-Pack-4/dp/B07B4BFC6S/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1524663881&sr=8-4&keywords=PS4+move+controllers&dpID=31BbRAr6kPL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KVP76G0/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=53XKXK262INH&coliid=IWH8RMPCNYHM9&psc=1

Has A K and E!

But more importantly than all......... HAPPY CAKE DAY! I hope you have a wonderful one.

Dear audiophiles,

my question in short: what is/how do I find out the infrared code to control a Teufel Decoderstation 5 via universal remote?

I purchased the universal remote for PS4, hoping that I would be able to control all my devices with it. Bluetooth pairing with the PS4 works just fine as does the IR pairing with the TV. My audio system though is a Teufel e300 with the according Decoderstation 5.
The auto pairing function of the remote is unsuccessful - it seems to trigger some random function, but doesn't manage to turn off the device as it should. Next step would be manual pairing. However, I cannot seem to find the necessary IR code. Even the manufacturer itself appears to have no clue what the IR code is. Obiously, my online research didn't produce results, otherwise I wouldn't post here.
Are there any previous experiences with this issue? Is there any way to find out the code?

I'd appreciate your support!

EDIT: I managed to pair a universal remote app on my phone with the Decoderstation 5, thus it definitely is possible.

Hori Rap 4 premium vlx. The only problem I've had with this stick is that on PC I need to use a program to re-map the inputs so I can use it with SFV.

As others have mentioned, the PS4 remote works well with Vue: https://smile.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Universal-Media-Remote/dp/B00ZJRHSZO

That exists - https://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Assault-Commander-KeyPad-Gamepad-Controller/dp/B01L8QL2N8

No, can still find it on amazon for it's og price.

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Panthera-Mod-Capable-Compartment-playstation-4/dp/B01N1KFRU7/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=razer%2Bpanthera&qid=1565123501&s=gateway&sr=8-1&th=1

because reasons

This controller keyboard has a potential of working, but curious if the enter button would still open up chat.

http://www.amazon.com/Collective-Minds-Chatboost-Battery-playstation-4/dp/B00QU93WW8/ref=sr_1_6?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1462133387&sr=1-6&keywords=Ps4+keyboard

Regardless, this is the first online multiplayer game I've ever played that doesn't have voice chat built in, yet requires more teamwork and communication to play than most other online games. Almost a must have really.

I'm also trying out an Astro C40 ($200) and a Razer Raiju Ultimate ($232) for comparison.

I'm really trying to up my aerial game, the paddles are key here since I refuse to remap the basic buttons and retrain my brain after 1700 hours.

Funny thing is though, I'm mapping air roll left to right paddle and air roll right to left paddle. Just seems more intuitive that way for me, like I'm rotating the car up instead of down on each respective side, since the paddle pressing is up and not down. Leaving L/R bumpers as air roll left/right, since I press the buttons down. Weird, maybe, but makes sense to me and I've gotten fewer blackout moments in training.

An extra dualshock 4 is a must. Always nice to have a spare. I prefer a charging stand over a cable (i only use the cable to sync my controllers), and a vertical stand. Also a Vita is a must have but you can always get one later.
Controller. (White looks best imo)
http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Dualshock-Wireless-Controller-Glacier-4/dp/B00KVP76G0
Charge base: (Theres a white one coming soon)
http://www.amazon.com/Nyko-Charge-Base-PlayStation-4/dp/B00FLLFJ68/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1409771477&sr=8-2&keywords=ps4+charging+station
Matching white vertical stand:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Computer-Entertainment-Vertical-Stand-PlayStation/dp/B00MI4Y3W2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409771405&sr=8-1&keywords=white+ps4+vertical+stand
Sexy white vita to match ps4:
http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Vita-Wi-Fi-Light-White-PCH-2000ZA14/dp/B00F27JDY0/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1409771573&sr=1-3&keywords=white+ps+vita

Also some Astro A40s and you're all set!

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Dualshock-Wireless-Controller-Camouflage-4/dp/B00KVP78FE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409774590&sr=8-1&keywords=camo+ps4+controller wrong

I got the Dualshock 4 controller in Crystal White since I'm currently using an ancient rumblepad.

Talked to a chat rep who gave me the code when I whined that my pokemon preordering friends already got one 😂

Yep. As touched upon below, it turning off after a certain amount of time without touching it is very annoying. Couple that with the fact that it eats through batteries quickly, as well as being generally unresponsive, and it becomes rather annoying. Just go check out the reviews for it on Amazon and you'll see what I mean.

They do have a few special edition controllers that come out a few times a year.

There is also a standard camouflage controller: https://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Wireless-Controller-PlayStation-Camouflage-4/dp/B00KVP78FE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1475002426&sr=8-1&keywords=camo+ps4+controller

If you have a PC and some PS Move controllers you can install Riftcat and use the PS Move Service to do roomscale tracking.

Another option is using a Nolo VR kit to link with your PC. You can get them on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Programmable-Controller-Officially-Licensed-4/dp/B07MFN1QCS?th=1

Let's go ahead and ban this one, yeah?

Let's go ahead and ban Arcade sticks, since that gives a distinct advantage over controller players.

Let's go ahead and ban racing wheels, since that gives a distinct advantage over controller players.

If it were up to you, EVERY single peripheral that offers an "advantage" in games would be banned, because you can't come to grips with the fact that maybe you're not as good as you objectively THINK you are. Oh no, it couldn't have been the fact I was in a gun fight with someone who has a fully kitted weapon and has Gold (lvl 5) body armor, THEY MUST BE USING A XIM. This is a personal attack against disabled gamers, because you can't accept the fact that you suck at FPS.

Such inclusive. Much wow.

I know they make controller grips that help with sweaty hands, but then your stuck carrying your own controller around. He probably has just as sweaty as hands though so doesn't even notice.

https://www.amazon.com/KontrolFreek-Performance-Grips-PlayStation-Controller-4/dp/B00ZJ8I7Y4/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=KontrolFreek+Performance+Grips&qid=1569587225&s=videogames&sr=1-3

I believe you're absolutely wrong

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MFN1QCS/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_rfnFDbEX2ZDPS

This is the official PS4 adapter. This is not a native keyboard mouse device.

And again I would use a native keyboard mouse. I would play with other native keyboard mouse players. I don't want to play with PC players. You just wait till the aimbots and wall hacks come out. You just wait until they make the aimbot work for controller. That's going to be a wild ride. You're all going to be fucked. Then you can cry about cheating for real.

These are the best sticks at the moment for ps4, IMO.


Hori Real Arcade Pro 4 Kai $150 (black/white/blue/red) (Hori / Sanwa / Seimitsu)

This stick has a Hori branded joystick and buttons (Hayabusa & Kuro) Hayabusa has a good feeling, even considered slightly better than Sanwa by some.

Kuro buttons are quite a different feeling, they are matte with less sensibility than sanwa and have more travel from pressing the button to reach the bottom and being detected.
Most people get rid of their Kuro buttons and swap with Sanwa's tbh, but some like it.

Arcadeshock sells these sticks already modified with Sanwa or Seimitsu parts for some $10 bucks more.

Amazon

Arcaseshock


Qanba Obsidian $200 (Full Sanwa) - Side leds, made more of metal. Shiny, solid, wide and looks cool.

Arcadeshock

Amazon

Razer Panthera $200: (Full Sanwa) - Front button to open and easly access the stick, lower input delay than other sticks (except Broo's UFGB).

Razer

Amazon

Qanba Dragon $300 (Full Sanwa) - Unnecessarily expensive, stick is a tank, easy open design and like 90% of full metal body.

Arcadeshock

Amazon

Hori Real Arcade Pro V. Premium VLX $300 (Black/Red) (Hori parts) - So big it's uncomfortable to travel with, playing with it feels awesome I got one.
Cons are the joystick sounds a little bit too hollow when moving around (you can get used to tho) and has tons of input delay. With some modifications (changing the PCB with a UFGB and Kuro for Sanwa buttons) it's an awesome stick.

Arcadeshock

Amazon

You do know theres literally a PS4 version of this exact same fightstick right? https://www.amazon.com/Arcade-Tekken-Fight-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed/dp/B019ZD1I6C/ref=pd_sim_63_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B019ZD1I6C&pd_rd_r=6B90D9MNSS4HZBXECNKH&pd_rd_w=NYF7F&pd_rd_wg=VDag0&psc=1&refRID=6B90D9MNSS4HZBXECNKH

I'm using the KontrolFreek Grips. They're not bad for $20. The first pair I had wore out really fast, but word had gotten to me that they were probably part of a defective batch. I got a new pair recently that seems to hold up great.

Hope this helps!

People saying these are the new ones on amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Move-Motion-Controllers-Pack-4/dp/B07B4BFC6S/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1538410335&sr=1-3&keywords=psvr+move+controller

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Any stick starting at $150+ is pretty much good. Personally, I would recommend Hori Rap 4. However, all of these are good:

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=hori+rap+4

https://www.amazon.com/Real-Arcade-Pro-V-Hayabusa-2017-brand/dp/B01N06CYSM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497098872&sr=8-1&keywords=hori+real+arcade+pro+hayabusa+2017

https://www.focusattack.com/qanba-obsidian-ps3-ps4-pc-fightstick/

https://www.amazon.com/Arcade-Tekken-Fight-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed/dp/B019ZD1I6C/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1497110479&sr=8-5&keywords=qanba+obsidian

http://www.etokki.com/Omni-Sanwa-Edition

http://www.etokki.com/Omni-Korean-Edition

Here is the white dualshock in case you're interested. Says it's in stock on 6/17.

Are you looking for something on the smaller or larger side? This one is rare and has good parts, but for the price you can get something like the Qanba Obisdian which is very nice imo. A few other good options at that price are the Razer Panthera (if you can find one) and the Hori Tekken 7 stick. All of these that I mentioned will work on both PS4 and PC

https://www.amazon.com/ASTRO-Gaming-C40-TR-Controller-PlayStation/dp/B07KF1FB1F/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1542819942&sr=8-1-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=astro+controller&psc=1

Look at this mouse and keyboard officially licensed by Sony. How do you think they will ban them if they encourage them?

400£ is 520 USD and that is 220 USD more than the PS4

"I'm educated enough" if you are that educated than why don't you show it instead of saying it? You can't just say you are superior and expect other to consider you that way.

"There's a difference between opinion and fact. I don't care for your subjective remarks" Well we are discussing about if mouse and keyboard should be allowed or not and if it is cheating. This is purely subjective and based on opinion. About the PC, every price you say is more that the PS4 and I have proven that through facts. So where are my "subjective remarks"?

So is this item. I had no idea these existed, I feel like I've failed my left handed wife for years now.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to regret typing that.

I bought mine from Game Street long ago. Guess they’re hard to find now.

HORI Real Arcade Pro 4 Kai Tekken 7 Edition Fight Stick for PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 3 Officially Licensed by Sony - PlayStation 4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019ZD1I6C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_fwWZCbECHPAP2

Well, I have the TES+ which is an amazing stick. It is by Madcatz, who is now out of business. This stick will be rare and worth quite a bit in the coming years.

https://www.amazon.com/Fighter-FightStick-PlayStation4-PlayStation3-playstation-4/dp/B018AW408C?th=1

If you don't want to find one of them I recommend the Razer here: https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Panthera-Arcade-Stick-Mod-Capable-Compartments/dp/B01N1KFRU7/ref=pd_cp_63_3/131-5054613-0716250?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01N1KFRU7&pd_rd_r=H4CZ6D86C7H1H5VAPFTF&pd_rd_w=oovcS&pd_rd_wg=WJDrQ&psc=1&refRID=H4CZ6D86C7H1H5VAPFTF

Personally, I don't like any of the current Hori sticks. But people are always releasing new sticks. I'm not a huge fan of the artwork on the Razer, but the stick is quality. I will always love my TES+ though. I hope it holds up over the long term. Qanba is a good brand too but I don't really dig their aesthetics much.

It's all up to you.

This one. My only gripe right now is I can't configure it with WinKawaks.

maaan. sorry guys i thought it was linked in the title...here is the amazon link

There actually is an officially licensed keypad and mouse controller for the PS4 by Hori. I haven't used it (and I don't plan to), so I don't know how good it actually is compared to the Xim.

Someone tweeted it out but surely he can just opt for something like this?, though not sure on the button layout if ever

I think you are thinking of the Sunset Orange controller that is supposed to be released later this month

I got one at a local game shop. It's a legit Sony controller just in a different color way, not a cover or anything. I found one here in Taiwan, so if you live in America or something you can definitely find one.

EDIT: Actually, looking at his picture, I think his is just a cover. Sony does sell one that's red and black and sexy:
http://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Wireless-Controller-PlayStation-Magma-Red/dp/B00FMNNQAQ

i believe he modified the plug on the N64 controller into a USB plug or used something like this, and attached that to an OTG cable.

at least that's how i'd do it if i was going to do wired. sixaxis controller+dualshock seems like a better choice to me, though. maybe i just hate wires.

Generally developers try and make games so they won't ever drop below 30fps...but I suppose it is always possible for it to happen if there are a lot of things happening on screen at once.

I haven't played Driveclub, but Killzone/Infamous/Knack have all been consistently smooth for me from start to finish.

Killzone is 30fps in single player, and 60fps in multiplayer, Infamous varies from about 30-45 unless you choose to cap it at 30 (in game option), and I don't know about Knack...but it was smooth.

Also, you can replace the ds4 thumb sticks with Xbox One sticks, or aluminum ones, or get thumb stick covers

\ = something weird about Killzone's multiplayer...it's interlaced vertically with some type of frame prediction engine to smooth it out...it LOOKS 60fps, and that's all that matters IMO.

On a related note, is there ANY USB controller-keyboards for the PS4? Wireless USB connection works fantastic and I love it, but every bluetooth keyboard I've tried has been shitty and unreliable. The disconnects and time it takes to re-connect just isn't worth it.

Something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Ortz%C2%AE-PS4-Wireless-Mini-Bluetooth-Keyboard/dp/B00UMF35MS
or this:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/collective-minds-chatboost-for-playstation-4-black/4353532.p?skuId=4353532

But USB instead of BlueTooth?

old or new. Funny enough, they're the same price now!

Maybe if op had one of these to test with

just bought Urban Camaflouge on Amazon for $47
https://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Wireless-Controller-PlayStation-Urban-Camouflage/dp/B00KVP78FE/ref=sr_1_5?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1481737019&sr=1-5&keywords=ps4+controller

I'll answer the ones I feel like I can give you a decent answer to

• Loaded by zones
  
• Largely yes the quests are kill x, gather this
  
• The story is fantastic, I really enjoyed it save for 1 or 2 developments I personally disagreed with
  
• To do normal modes, no you do not need to dedicate much time in order to do them, there is a party finder which will group you with others. There are currently two end game raids, Alexander Normal (Casual friendly)/Savage (Think Mythic from WoW) that requires 8 players, and Void Ark (LFR difficulty casual friendly raid) which is only completable using party finder and requires 24 players and does not have a Savage version. Alexander is separated into queueable floors with a single boss on each and Void Ark is done as a wing but takes no where near 3 hours to complete, under an hour at the very most.
  
• I personally had no issues playing on PS4 in terms of the screen being cluttered but to each their own.
  
• FPS is fine in dungeons/fates/raids I never experienced an issue save for in hunts due to the sheer amount of people on screen at the time but it was never unbearable by any means. The controls for the game are fantastic on PS4, it really is the first MMO that has taken using a controller seriously. I've since moved from PS4 to PC and I still use a controller to play the game if that says anything.
  
• Yes the game is insanely solo-friendly especially compared to FFXI, I completed the story/raids by myself for the large part. Dungeon finder helps to alleviate this.
  
• There is a transmog system in the game that unlocks at level 50, but until then yes everyone looks pretty much the same
  
• Cons: Content can feel sparse at max level if you burn through it quickly
  
• Typing: I'm not sure, I almost never typed while I was on PS4, you can get a keyboard that attaches to the controller but I never bothered with it frankly
  
  

I tried this solution with a PS4 controller chatpad, but the damn thing goes idle after like 5 minutes and it has about a 5 second wake-up time. I eventually couldn't take it anymore and found a different solution.

DS4 controller users, avoid this chatpad if you're going to try said solution:
http://www.amazon.com/Collective-Minds-Chatboost-Battery-playstation-4/dp/B00QU93WW8

You should get a PS4 wireless keyboard if you don't have one already. Something like this if you're unfamiliar: http://www.amazon.com/Ortz%C2%AE-PS4-Wireless-Mini-Bluetooth-Keyboard/dp/B00UMF35MS

I modded it heavily but the base stick is the Hori VLX.

https://www.amazon.com/Arcade-Premium-Fighting-PlayStation-Licensed-4/dp/B015HAKX36?th=1

I have this remote: PDP Bluetooth Enabled Media Remote Control for Playstation 4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072C7YZFC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_6jqSDb2QEMDVD

For anyone wondering, you have to hold down the triangle button to access the “touch pad” button equivalent on the controller. It took me forever to figure that out and there is no other way to go to last channel without it.

https://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Wireless-Controller-PlayStation-Urban-Camouflage/dp/B00KVP78FE/ref=sr_1_4?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1480101012&sr=1-4&keywords=ps4+controller
(it's 39 sorry)

I've used this for literal years. It's started acting up now in year uh.... 5? But it still trucks along when I need it to and it's so much a part of my playtime that the PS4 controller feels weird without it when I play other games

https://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Assault-Commander-KeyPad-Gamepad-Controller/dp/B01L8QL2N8/

Skyrim VR bundle is pretty much everything you would need. Newst headset, new version of the moves, camera and one of the better games.

The Doom Bundle comes with the new version of the headset and camera, no moves if you want to buy them later.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Move-Motion-Controllers-Pack-4/dp/B07B4BFC6S/ref=pd_sbs_63_6?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07B4BFC6S&pd_rd_r=HMREP00XJVZT7XPSQ3T3&pd_rd_w=yjDjX&pd_rd_wg=zGAsd&psc=1&refRID=HMREP00XJVZT7XPSQ3T3

I use the Razer Panthera with my Magic NS adapter and it's great!

It does NOT add input delay! I went into Shovel Knight co-op and press jumped same time on a Pro Controller and the fight stick and it was the exact same time. I will say they make the screen capture/ record button for playstation controllers is the touch pad button so be weary about that.

Yeah that adapter is so worth it if you have a PS4 or Xbox One. Best games so far for it are tetris, sine mora EX, BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle, Street Fighter, any of the NEO GEO games.

heres something

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00K7UHG8W?pc_redir=1410062785&robot_redir=1

scroll down for other colors

heres one on ebay no sticks but has d pad

http://m.ebay.com/itm/221514317464?nav=SEARCH

I bought mine on Amazon.co.jp when PS4 launched in Japan. (I live in USA, but used tenso.com)

I think they might have more stock coming eventually, but on Japan Amazon you can basically pre-order. (They ship it whenever it's in stock)

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00FMNNQAQ/

Check out Amazon in Japan too, no idea what the shipping costs though: http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/switch-language/product/B00FMNNQAQ/ref=dp_change_lang?ie=UTF8&language=en_JP

Yes and it’s on sale for $45 apparently

It was this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077H94D1D/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And it was sold by XtraParts Supply https://www.amazon.com/sp?_encoding=UTF8&asin=&isAmazonFulfilled=1&isCBA=&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&orderID=113-7089395-1929842&seller=A3GH6UC88BDH7L&tab=&vasStoreID=

But it was fulfilled by Amazon

Good question. I've had it with broken PS4 controllers. Gone through three in the past year between my son and I. Really hoping this is going to be as good as the specs say it is https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KF1FB1F?pf_rd_p=c2945051-950f-485c-b4df-15aac5223b10&pf_rd_r=QN7FZ59F2NJ63ABVPAAD

I got the one sold by Amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KVP76G0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Got it on Dec 31st.

Model: CUH-ZCT1U

Here's the one I ordered, http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FMNNQAQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?qid=1421189064&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70

And the number on mine is, CUH-ZCT1J

> averagely $55

You're a fucking idiot who cant read for shit. Let me help you shall we?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-dualshock-4-wireless-controller-for-playstation-4-jet-black/5580915.p?id=bb5580915&skuId=5580915


https://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Wireless-Controller-PlayStation-Wave-Blue/dp/B01MQGVH94/ref=pd_sbs_63_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=8AW841HQD3QK004Q7QEJ

http://www.gamestop.com/ps4/accessories/dualshock-4-wireless-controller-black/109951


https://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Wireless-Controller-PlayStation-CUH-ZCT1-4/dp/B00BGA9X9W

So what does average means?

Take a seat ps fanboy. Talking about me being a fanboy yet im always talking shit about nintendo and sony's fuck ups. If you don't take a seat fuckboy. Guess we found the real retard. & again overprice shit still doesn't come with a charger.

what about this one?

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And FWIW I have sweaty hands too. They won't stop you from sweating, but the KontrolFreek Grips help me have a better and more comfortable grip.

You can get it for $50.95 at a different place through Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00KVP780Y/ref=lp_6427824011_1_9_olp?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1485119866&sr=1-9

i don't need a dual shock, you need this https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Move-Motion-Controllers-Pack-4/dp/B07B4BFC6S/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3FBLRJCX4FNNJ&keywords=playstation%2B4%2Bvr%2Bcontroller&qid=1569582581&sprefix=playstation%2B4vr%2B%2Caps%2C210&sr=8-2&th=1