Best safety respirator cartridges & filters according to redditors
We found 211 Reddit comments discussing the best safety respirator cartridges & filters. We ranked the 48 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
![3M 701 Black/Orange Filter Adapter - 051138-29113 [PRICE is per BAG of 2]](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41nfgBgRozL.jpg)
Wearing protective gear IS really important. However, please be aware that the mask you are using is only rated for nuisance dust, not any sort of chemical, or any of the really small dust particles, which are the most dangerous. A real respirator rated for organic vapors is not expensive and much more effective. If you can smell the chemical, you're still inhaling it.
For soldering and painting a mask like you have in the picture gives a false sense of security.
Edit: On my PC so adding - you can get a 3m half-mask respirator for $15 on amazon with pink P100 dust filters. Disposable masks are typically only P95, meaning they only capture 95% of dust, and it's the small dangerous bits that get through.
Multi vapor filters are $8.75. Store them in a plastic bag and they'll last a long time. You can't smell anything when using these, if you do the filter is worn out.
If you are making toxic dust and fumes (sanding paint, welding galvanized metal etc) or don't want to swap them out, use multi-vapor cartridges with P100 dust caps.
I'm originally from the Chico area, and the Camp Fire hit my social circle pretty hard. I went up to help out in the make-shift camps/shelters being set up, dropping off and passing out supplies. The smoke was so bad that in the middle of the day, there was very little sunlight.
Some tips I've learned:
​
1. It's all about PM2.5 particles
Last year, people were sharing masks and filters that weren't sufficient for the true hazards in the air, the PM2.5 particles. These can get into your lungs and blood stream and wreck havoc long-term. So you need filters that cover these. Always look for that (and P95/N95 ratings on masks), and don't fall for some of the trendy-looking-but-otherwise-useless masks some people share around the Internet, or think that a surgical mask is going to do any good.
​
2. Treat yourself to quality personal air filters and goggles
Buy a good reusable N95/P95 respirator. The little paper-like masks are good in a pinch, but you're going to find that they're not that comfortable to breathe in, and if you wear glasses, you're going to fog them up.
I recommend the 3M 07193 Dual Cartridge Respirator. This is technically disposable (you can get replacement particular filters, but the carbon filter can't be replaced). However, it will actually last you a fairly long time. They're affordable and you're going to feel like you can actually breathe comfortably, even in heavy smoke, especially compared to those little disposable masks. I have a couple of these so that I can share with those around me.
I've since picked up the 3M 65021HA1-C Respirator, which is P100 (better than a P95/N95, adding resistance to solids and liquids containing oil) and has replacement organic vapor/particulate filter cartridges.
Along with these, some good safety goggles will help keep the smoke out of your eyes. I find these Dewalt DPG82-11 goggles to be pretty comfortable, even with glasses (though they may be a difficult fit for larger glasses).
​
3. Buy a new, quality home air filter
You have whole-house air filters in your home/apartment, and they probably do nothing for smoke. Most air filters people buy help with allergens only. So do yourself a favor and buy some air filters before they're out of stock everywhere. Something along the lines of the 3M Filtrete MPR 1900 filters or, even better, the MPR 2200 filters (make sure you get the right size for your place, but I think 14x24x1 is pretty standard?).
MPR 1900 ratings are a minimum requirement here. There's a chart on that Amazon link in the product pictures that shows you what filters you need based on what you're trying to filter. Look for the PM 2.5 Air Pollution.
Note that the higher the filter, the more your heating system will have to work, so just be aware of that.
​
4. Buy good portable air purifiers for the home
Along with the whole-house filter, you're going to want something you can put by the door or the windows (by the way, close those windows). I have a few of the Vornado AC350 air purifiers (one for Palo Alto, a couple for my place in Chico). They're not cheap (and right now they're more expensive than they were -- I paid $99 -- so shop around).
You'll also want replacement filters. In a pinch, you can wash the old filters, but I don't that that's a good long-term solution.
​
5. Car filters!
If the smoke gets really bad, and you're driving around in it a lot, your car's cabin filter is going to capture a lot of that smoke, and that's going to start working its way back into your cabin. You might want to consider getting your cabin filter replaced.
I know this can be done manually, just buy one online, take out the old, replace it. I had the dealership do this for me in Chico, but they were doing this for free for everybody, so... Lucked out there.
​
6. Avoid being outside as much as you can
If you don't have to go anywhere, don't. It's just not worth exposing yourself. You don't know what's in that smoke, or how well protected you are. Just prepare, buy food for the home, get the filters, and minimize how often you leave the house. This isn't always practical, and if you do have to leave, make sure you and your family are using quality air filters.
Check the air quality on a site like PurpleAir. Don't rely exclusively on your phone's Weather app. You want to use something that's tracking many sensors in an area, not just one or two official sensors.
​
Stay safe.
​
Edit: Added a link to the PurpleAir air quality map.
Edit 2: Thanks for my first-ever Gold, kind stranger! That was very nice of you.
I'm a believer that if the dust mask doesn't fit tightly around your mouth and create a seal, it's not going actually filter anything out. The air you breathe in will take the path of least resistance and go through any gaps instead of actually being filtered.
I would go with a half mask respirator and a p100 filter or similar.
Do you have a receiving address in HK?
for all housework (sanding, painting, wallpaper removal, plaster mixing, etc...), I roll with a 3M 6000 mask and P3 filters ... runs around 20 GBP for the set up and the filters are good for a month.
I like the 3M mask because I can swap on chemical filters and keep the dust filtering effect.
half-mask (£12): https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005HK05L2/
A2 organic filters: £10
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000U749VE
pack of 5 sets of P3F dust filters (£10/set):
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B008OHMNQK
cheap protection and good for the lungs
The filters on all CPAP machines are a joke. Most are barely N95 and everything but particulate matter pass through. You'll still breath in smoke, smell, chemicals, formaldahyde, toxins etc with stock apnea filters. It's a pain in the ass wearing a respirator when awake but there's ZERO downsides using a respirator filter connected to you cpap machine when you sleep. Anyone with allergies and asthma could greatly benefit from what I'm posting below.
I printed out a 3D filter cover that's reshaped to attach 3M P100 2297 respirator filters.
Looks like this and just twists on and off. https://ibb.co/hBs1fcF
Here they are on amazon: https://www.amazon.com/3M-Advanced-Particulate-2297-Filters/dp/B009POHH94?th=1&psc=1 $5 each. You could use almost and Respirator any filter you want if you can get it to attach to your machine but the 2297 and 2291 have a much higher flow rate with much less air restriction so that there's no added load on the machine . http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/572482O/2200-advanced-particulate-filter.pdf?fn=2200SeriesSellSheet-70-0714-8863
The advantages of a 3M 2297 are about +10 times the filtering surface area so there's no added restriction to your machine and they don't let anything into your machine. They are P100 +++ and block 99.97% of air board particulates and also use Carbon in the filter so they block inorganic Vapors, smoke (like all the fires in CA), formaldehyde fumes and chemicals. Even ozone. Before I made my custom 3D printed filter cover. I just cut the plastic mount off the 2297 filter and double side taped it to my machines filter cover.
If I get some interest I could make a bunch of 3d printed filter covers so that you can attach 3M respirators to your apnea machines. Let me know if anyone's interested. A a quick test if you want to try. You could also stick your apnea machine in a sealed cardboard box with a one or more respirator filters as the vent ports allowing only filtered air into your apnea machine.
Mine is 3M, the kind of filter cartridge you'll need to buy is "organic vapor", and some work specifically with ammonia which might help.
Edit: Something like this one:https://www.amazon.com/3M-Respirator-Facepiece-Adjustable-6200/dp/B00D7KXD6I and here's your filter: https://www.amazon.com/3M-6001PB1-1-Organic-Replacement-Cartridge/dp/B000XBKLLE/ref=sr_1_6?crid=KM8UK7XG0HG0&keywords=6001%2Bvapor%2Bcartridge&qid=1555892435&s=hi&sprefix=6001%2B%2Ctools%2C147&sr=1-6&th=1&psc=1
Let me just get the safety information since that's super important and a discord server has is on command
>Clear coat
The most commonly used & recommended clear coat here is the USC Spray Max 2K High Gloss Clearcoat found here: https://amzn.to/2O0oZRB
It is also available in Matte and Semi-Gloss and all three types are highly recommended. In general, 2K clear coats will hold up much better than 1K, and will protect your work for years. Use of a standard 1K clearcoat will result in a finish that will wear off extremely quickly from use and leave you with a ruined paintjob.
Note: A couple things you need to know about USC 2K and all other 2K clearcoats.
>1. USC Spray Max 2K has a roughly 48 hour pot life. After this window has passed the clear coat will be unusable, so it's recommended you clear coat in batches.
>2. A can can typically cover 3 controllers, 3.5/4 if you're good about spraying efficiently.
>3. You must use safety equipment when using any 2k clearcoat. 2K clearcoats are HIGHLY TOXIC!*
3a. Wear a respirator, goggles, gloves, and a full body paint suit (preferably with a hood).
3b. Use light layers and work outdoors or in a professionally ventilated workshop (i.e. dedicated garage).
3c. Do not spray or leave to cure in an area where people or pets can breathe the fumes. This includes the full cure time as 2k gives off dangerous fumes until fully cured. Even very light exposure can make you sick.
>Please use the command !ccsafety to see more information
CustomGCC staff and members are NOT RESPONSIBLE if anything goes wrong.
!ccsafety info
>Respirator
Most painters in CustomGCC use the 3M Disposable Organic Vapor Respirator or similar, found here: https://amzn.to/2Nrz10Z
The cartridges on this mask are nonreplaceable and have a max use time of 8 hours before they're inneffective in protecting you, this means you must replace this mask every 8 hours of active use.
The filters also get used up just sitting around in the open air, so make sure you store it in an airtight bag between uses if you want to get the full 8 hours out of it.
>For a re-usable mask and replacement filters these are good options:
Mask
https://www.amazon.com/3M-Comfort-Facepiece-Reusable-Respirator/dp/B01DU2ZPHW/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1527054681&sr=8-5&keywords=respirator
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007JZ1MK6/ref=psdc_2257619011_t3_B00IF7RAP8
>Filters
https://www.amazon.com/3M-Cartridge-60923-Respiratory-Protection/dp/B00AEFCKKY/ref=sr_1_12?keywords=organic%2Bvapor%2Brespirator&qid=1556003582&s=gateway&sr=8-12&th=1&psc=1
>Other Necessary Protection
Make sure to wear safety goggles, nitrile or similar gloves, and wear long sleeves/pants to prevent the 2k getting on your skin. Any clothes worn while spraying should be immediately changed out of and washed to prevent any chemical being absorbed by your skin.
A Tyvek paint suit is highly recommended: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VMU2SN4?pf_rd_p=f3acc539-5d5f-49a3-89ea-768a917d5900&pf_rd_r=QCS32SZFBER5RSNBE34X
>For a full writeup on respirators and safety gear please check this link:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13aNeXXbrsHRQ14O4L9qJy682otQVSmGREF5aQ1I-I9I/edit?usp=sharing
This mask combined with these cartridges will let you walk through tear gas like you're invincible.
Amazon order 3m ff401 I think. Then get a few of the combo cartridge filters organic/particulate. Should run you around 200 but your lungs can’t be replaced. If you don’t want to go full face, the the pale blue half face respirator that 3m makes. Both of these are serious business and work very well. Don’t buy small it’s like made for a child. Most people wear medium so start there unless you know you’re face is largehuge.
Edit: seriously don’t downvote me this is actually helpful :-(
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008MCUT86
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009POI1V2
Less than $100 if you get next day. Comfortable enough to wear all day.
I use this model with this filter. I was riding around Pleasanton yesterday with AQI ~300 and felt nothing (other than my stinky breath). I don't feel like I have to force my breathing either -- the airflow doesn't seem to be "blocked" unlike N95 masks I've tried.
Any P100 NIOSH filter / mask will do, but the main difference between models is comfort.
I'm honestly surprised people keep recommending N95...those masks are very uncomfortable on my face and barely work for my use case.
​
I use the 3M quick latch with the P100 particulate filters. I've been very pleased. My brother swears by the RZ Masks. I bought a couple and don't find them all that comfortable unfortunately.
Noted. Thanks I ordered these for starters. If these aren't what you're talking about could you share a link?
I personally use the 3M 6502QL paired with their organic vapor cartridge. I've worn it for almost 8 hours at a time on some jobs and it's been very comfy. Definitely a good idea to wear one of these around the harsher cleaners and to avoid compound dust; some of it can be fairly carcinogenic. Good to see someone thinking about PPE!
Just for myself and my gf, I bought a box of N95 paper respirators back in the 2015 wildfire season, and just invested in some more heavy-duty hardware since this is coming a thing:
$25 - 3M Half facepiece reusable respirator
$15 - 2-pack 3M NIOSH-approved P100 particulate and organic gas filter
If your employer doesn't care about your health, you should!
That respirator is this model exactly: https://www.amazon.com/3M-Respirator-6300-Respiratory-Protection/dp/B007QY8X2K/ (3M 6000 series half-facepiece respirator)
It comes in 3 sizes (model numbers in parenthesis). Small (6100) /Medium (6200) /Large (6300). Small fits my tiny girlfriend very well. I wear a medium and have an average to largeish head. Small is a pale grey, medum is medium gray, and large is almost black.
This model in particular is made of a TPU plastic which is... not that comfortable, to be honest. Wearing it for a couple hours will leave you with marks on your face (ridge of nose primarily) that take a day or two to go away.
For a few dollars more you can get the 7500 series, which is miles more comfortable because of the silicone face seal: https://www.amazon.com/3M-Facepiece-Respirator-Respiratory-Protection/dp/B008MCUT86/
Then all you need is a pair of replaceable filters, which you should purchase based upon your work or the potential hazards wherever you are exploring.
For most UrbEx type situations i'd imagine a P100 filter will suffice (P means oil and non oil particulate and 100 is the percent it filters out - realistically its 99.97%, but close enough... don't risk your health with anything lower than 100).
These are my favorite particulate filters (high flow and nuisance organic vapor releif): https://www.amazon.com/3M-Advanced-Particulate-Respiratory-Protection/dp/B009POHH94/
For really sketchy stuff you'll want a combo unit which has multi-gas and particulate filters (which you shouldn't do anyway): https://www.amazon.com/3M-Cartridge-60926-Respiratory-Protection/dp/B009POHLRC/
To summarize: So yeah, get yourself a mask that fits well and filters for the specific job/location you're doing/visiting.
I work in the hazmat industry and agree with the previous posts. Grab a 3M half-face respirator. I’d shoot for either p100 “pancake” filters (dust protection and very light vapor protection on a budget) or organic vapor for the same dust protection and extreme vapor/fume protection
get yourself a half face respirator with pm/voc cartridges. protect your health and raise awareness!
And not just any dust mask! Get a half-mask respirator with P100 filters. So much more particulate can get through that old paper dust mask than you'd ever think. P100's are the highest level of filtration out there, and still super cheap.
https://www.amazon.com/3M-2091-P100-Particulate-Filter/dp/B002KFFY9A/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1499727326&sr=8-3&keywords=p100
I totally understand, in that case here are some things.
If you don't already have a set of 1/4" impact bits I highly recommend the Makita impact gold series, three options from $15-$30. Good strong bits good for everything not just impact drivers.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-Impact-Gold-Drive-Bit-Set-40-Piece-B-65383/305513416
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-Impact-Gold-Steel-Driver-Bit-Set-26-Piece-B-46919/206284602
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-Impact-GOLD-Driver-Bit-Set-38-Piece-B-52370/207104796
Their 1/2" and 3/8" wobble adapters are nice, you can get them by themselves, or in a pack with standard or metric impact sockets. $4-$5 by themselves or $15 with the sockets.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-Impact-GOLD-1-2-in-15-Degree-Tilt-Socket-Adapter-B-35081/203696909
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-Impact-GOLD-3-8-in-15-Degree-Tilt-Socket-Adapter-B-35075/203696899
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-Impact-GOLD-3-8-in-6-Point-Fractional-Standard-Impact-Socket-Set-with-15-Degree-Tilt-Socket-Adapter-9-Pieces-B-34833/203612037
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-Impact-GOLD-3-8-in-6-Point-Metric-Impact-Socket-Set-with-15-Tilt-Socket-Adapter-9-Piece-B-49862/206284603
This Makita Impact GOLD Ultra-Magnetic Torsion Insert Bit Holder is also excellent. $5
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-Impact-GOLD-Ultra-Magnetic-Torsion-Insert-Bit-Holder-B-35097/203696915
How are you set for razor knives? The Milwaukee FASTBACK Compact is my daily and I love it. It does have one flaw, if you hold the blade section in a certain way for detail cutting you can depress the blade release. But once you get used to it it has not been a problem for me. $9
They have a special buy going in my area for the Fastback Flip, Fastback Compact Flip, and 50 blades for $15.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-FASTBACK-Compact-Flip-Utility-Knife-48-22-1906/206994464
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-Fastback-Flip-Utility-Knife-Set-with-Utility-Blades-50-Pack-48-22-1901J/302283894
How about pliers. I love these tiny Cobras, they were part of my EDC at my last job. $26
https://www.homedepot.com/p/KNIPEX-Heavy-Duty-Forged-Steel-5-in-Mini-Cobra-Pliers-with-61-HRC-Teeth-87-01-125-SBA/203202210
6" models only $1 more. $27
https://www.homedepot.com/p/KNIPEX-Heavy-Duty-Forged-Steel-6-in-Mini-Cobra-Pliers-with-61-HRC-Teeth-87-01-150/100668977
7" only another $1. $28
https://www.homedepot.com/p/KNIPEX-Heavy-Duty-Forged-Steel-7-in-Cobra-Pliers-with-61-HRC-Teeth-87-01-180/100668967
Very very tough diagonal cutters. $35
https://www.homedepot.com/p/KNIPEX-Heavy-Duty-Forged-Steel-10-in-High-Leverage-Diagonal-Cutters-with-64-HRC-Cutting-Edge-74-01-250/100668970
For when you need a bit more oomph than your standard cutters, Mini bolt cutters. $44
https://www.homedepot.com/p/KNIPEX-8-in-Cobolt-Lever-Action-Compact-Bolt-Cutter-64-HRC-Forged-Steel-71-01-200/100668975
The classic Swedish style pipe wrench, always make for an interesting conversation piece. $46
https://www.homedepot.com/p/KNIPEX-12-in-Heavy-Duty-Pipe-Wrench-83-10-010/205944412
How are you set for PPE? I wear this respirator for 8 hours a day 5 days a week and I love it, after a few minutes you forget your even wearing it. And its super easy to just un-latch to speak to people then pop it back on.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/3M-Medium-Paint-Project-Respirator-with-Quick-Latch-Mask-6502QLPA1-A-NA/207061064
Without filters at amazon. $19
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IF7RCU6/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Home depot does not sell the filters I use, but amazon does. $11
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009POHH94/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
These are only particulate filters so if you do a lot of painting the set from home depot with the VOC filters would be better.
For hearing protection I had been using a set of 3M Peltor Optime 105's until I upgraded recently to a combo of 3M Peltor WS Alert XP's and 3M Peltor CH-5 High Attenuation Headset. The 105's offer extremely good protection for the money.
3M Peltor Optime 105 $20
https://www.amazon.com/3M-Earmuff-Protectors-Hearing-Protection/dp/B00009LI4K
If there are any specific categories of tools you would like a recommendation on let me know.
Hey there, I'm not the HAZMAT expert but I do Contagion Kits' product sourcing. I'll let Z get answer the technical side of your question, but I can tell you that if you're interested in that specific half-mask (the 3M 7500 series), you're better off separately buying the mask and a set of P100 filters (these cartridges or these filters) which will provide a higher level of protection (P100 vs N95) for an equal or lesser price. The 3M 2097 filters are what we use ourselves and offer with our kits on the site.
-C
The residue in left in the filter on the paper right? Also how bad do I need to avoid breathing acetone or how volatile is it? I have lots of windows and fans, I got this respirator from 3M, will it do the job for acetone vapors? https://www.amazon.ca/3M-2097-Particulate-Filter/dp/B00328IAO0
This is the one I bought. I use the P100 filters that twist on as well.
Unrelated to woodworking but I have a great dane. In February or March he had surgery and was on some medicine that left him with upset bowels. He didn't make it outside and left a huge mess on my main floor tile...twice. The only way I was able to clean it all up was by wearing this amazing thing. I didn't smell any of it.
Yeah... Zinc-Oxide is shitty.
Where I work they give us 3M reusable respirators with "cookie" filters:
Respirator
Filter
Notice the cost: 40-50 bucks to get started... I change my filters twice a day for the pink cookies (4 hours per set), and use a pair per day if I'm using higher quality organic filters. P100 filters clog up pretty quickly and they aren't meant for much more than minor exposure.
Make sure you shave before using your filter - that's pretty important. In my opinion, you should be wearing a respirator for any welding your doing. Iron oxide and other welding particulates are not good for you. For some fumes, the health effects are up for debate on hazard levels, but I'm not gonna breath the stuff to find out when I'm 60.
If your shop is having you work with galvanized materials, buff the galvanizing off of the weld area (and the backside, too!) to minimize exposure - don't worry about removing the zinc, because the welding arc does that anyway. You'll also get cleaner welds and less likelihood of wormholes caused by zinc oxide gassing out through your puddle. Ask your employer to provide adequate protection. No vent system in the world will allow you to weld that stuff without inhaling even a little of it. Here is some info about welding galvanized materials.
I'm not sure if you can force your employer to provide respirators - you might want to look into OSHA regulations (if in the US, obviously) about it... You might also ask /r/legaladvice or something - maybe there's an attorney there who specializes in industrial health who can help you.
3M makes all kinds of good masks, but in general they come with 'attachments'. So you buy the filters and screw them on both sides.
I have both particulate filters (non gas) and gas filters (that also do particulates) but there's a huge range of different ones for different purposes.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B008MCUT86
This is a very common model and works well.
https://smile.amazon.com/3M-Cartridge-60926-Respiratory-Protection/dp/B009POHLRC
Here's an example of filter 60926 which does gas & vapor, organic, acid gas, ammonia, methylamine, and formaldehyde. Would most likely cover pepper spray too.
You do not need pants. I just use jeans, and the the apron over a jacket. Here is what I use:
Get one of these for sure.
http://www.amazon.com/3M-Face-piece-Reusable-Respirator-Assembly/dp/B000FTEDMM/ref=pd_bxgy_hi_img_y
+
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00328IAO0/ref=oh_details_o03_s02_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Gloves - I bought a few pairs. You will use them up at first, till you learn what not to hold on to :) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MRQAJG/ref=oh_details_o08_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Jacket has some options. Sleeves and an apron:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002AKIRIA/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
+
http://www.amazon.com/Welding-Sleeves-Leather-Elastic-Resistant/dp/B002GI9A3C/ref=pd_sim_hi_48
or a plain jacket, but look around. This price on amazon seems high. You might be able to find something like this locally for less.
http://www.amazon.com/Hobart-770488-Leather-Welding-Jacket/dp/B002VECL3W/ref=pd_sim_hi_42
And I use this :http://www.amazon.com/Miller-Genuine-Leather-Indura-Welding/dp/B003IL2RCM/ref=sr_1_10?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1382001569&sr=1-10&keywords=miller+jacket
Specifically, a mask with VOC cartridges. Something like a paper mask won't block the solvent fumes.
Absolutely not. DO NOT PAINT UNTIL YOU HAVE THE APPROPRIATE PROTECTIVE GEAR. Lacquers are especially dangerous. Acrylics are safer but still not safe. Painting without proper protection will result in you inhaling vapors and particles that will mess up your lungs terribly and cause you a lot of problems later in life, sooner and more severe if you keep doing it. More immediately, you'll get headaches and such that will make your life unpleasant.
You need a proper respirator that's rated for organic vapor. This is pretty close to what I have. You attach cartridges to those sockets on either side and filters over the top.
You'll also need to make sure wherever you're painting is adequately ventilated, which generally means getting a paint booth with a good fan.
And no, thinners aren't universal. Different chemicals are used to thin acrylics, lacquers, enamels and oils. Sometimes you can use one for another, like using enamel thinner with oil, but in other cases you'll mess up the whole thing if you try.
Get proper protective gear. Get a proper ventilation system. Get the proper thinners for your paint. Then have fun with your new airbrush!
I use this with these for keeping me safe from sawdust. I'll swap out with some organic vapor filters if I use any finishs or whatnot that requires it. This mask is very comfortable and I don't have a problem wearing it all day if I have to.
Hey there,
I use a half face respirator and P100 filter cartridges like This and These to make diaper changes for my child a reality. When properly fitted, there is no smell at all. The smallest size possible should fit a child. I suppose you can make some sort of game of it with your son.
I honestly am not too educated on respirators. At work (a painting company) we had HEPA filters for when we were scraping and sanding, and then NIOSH filters for when we sprayed paint, but I bought a mask at lowes for personal use that had organic filters and .1 micron filtering, which for me meant I used the same filters for everything. If I'm painting I can't smell it, and when I sand wood I get no noticeable dust in the mask. Other than that I really don't know too much about respirators.
As far as I'm aware though, HEPA is particle filtering, and NIOSH is organic (activated carbon) filtering, so I'm thinking you would want either a NIOSH filter, or the combination thing lowes sells (the combo filters are more expensive, but worth it)
As a side note, they say you should replace the filters after 8 hours of use, but I've got probably 200 hours on the filters on my personal mask and its just starting to not fully filter the organic stuff.
I like the 3m half face masks. They are more comfortable than disposable masks and you can get all kinds of cartridges for them. I used them for years along with full face masks. They are quite comfortable for a 12 hour shift.
https://www.amazon.com/3M-Facepiece-Respirator-Respiratory-Protection/dp/B00AR63G12?th=1&psc=1
They also come apart quite easily so you can wash them in the sink.
Edit: then these filters for particulate, mold, fiberglass, they also cut down on welding gas odor https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007STCT00/ref=pd_aw_sim_328_2?ie=UTF8&dpID=51R34JRMdfL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL100_SR100%2C100_&psc=1&refRID=F8BB7CR4DEB60NEMYRZP
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008MCUT86/ref=biss_dp_t_asn
(exhaust air is directed down so it doesn't fog up hood)
With
http://www.amazon.com/3M-2097-Particulate-Filter-Organic/dp/B00328IAO0/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hi_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=04H4DZQFZJ44T79AV2TD
Not gonna provide the best vapor protection but it would help and it fits easily under a hood.
The little paper ones? They're better than nothing but I wouldn't say enough.
I use [this one]
(https://www.amazon.ca/Rugged-Comfort-Facepiece-Reusable-Respirator/dp/B00IF7RBS4/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=3M+Respiratory+Protection&qid=1569385686&sr=8-5)
with the [pink pancake filters.]
(https://www.amazon.ca/3M-2097-Particulate-Filter/dp/B00328IAO0/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=3M+Respiratory+Protection&qid=1569385840&sr=8-8)
What hood do you have that your respirator doesn't fit? I have an ESAB Sentinel which is quite close fitting to the face and it fits just fine.
I love this kind with these filters.
3M makes a whole line of these respirators. I'm pretty sure the one linked here is the kind I got. It has a very soft, flexible silicone grommet that seals very effectively against my face and is incredibly comfortable. It vents your breath downward, so you don't fog up your glasses (a big concern with me). And the P100 filters with "nuisance level" organic protection reduce fumes from varnishes, solvents, etc., to the point where I literally cannot smell them.
Oh, and the whole get-up is really affordable, too.
https://www.amazon.com/3M-Comfort-Facepiece-Reusable-Respirator/dp/B00IF7RAP8/ + https://www.amazon.com/3M-Organic-Vapor-Cartridge-1-Pair/dp/B000XBKLLE/ + https://www.amazon.com/3M-5P71PB1-Particulate-Filter-10-Pack/dp/B0013Z0TV6/
Question: If you want to hypothetically avoid nuclear fallout, can you just grab a 3M mask and some cheap filters and be right as rain? They would filter all the particulate. The rest of you would be toast without more PPE, of course.
If you can, buy a reusable respirator and some P100 filters. It's much more effective than N95 masks. (Note that the 3M respirators come in 3 sizes, medium is supposed to fit 85% of users.)
I made a thread about this in another subreddit and got some good responses from u/yogabagabbedlygook who lives in the West - where we typically have our forest fires:
>I use 3M 7000 series Half-face Respirator, it's the top of the line model and is only about ~$30 US with filters if you get a good package deal.
>
>I've used a few different filters and there are notable differences and exactly what you would expect. The big bulky OV/P95 Cartridges impact breathing the most, the 3M 2297 P100 filters are a significant improvement in ease of breathing, and lastly the 3M Advanced 2291 P100 filters are the least impactful as their are purposely designed for ease of breathing. I started with them in that order and have transitioned to the 2291 filters, a vast improvement and likely more than adequate for pollution considerations. The OV/P95 Cartridges are overkill and are what professional painters and chemists use, plus they're more expensive.
>
>Yes, you will get lots of condensation buildup, but I don't find that to be too problematic.
I didn't see this post due to working, but I have two cats and I clean their litter boxes out. I went and got a respirator like this one: http://www.amazon.com/3M-62023HA1-A-Professional-Multi-Purpose-Respirator/dp/B002NMICB2/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1417134401&sr=8-6&keywords=respirator and I still clean out the boxes. A plus to this one, you don't SMELL anything at all! I also use a pair of designated rubber gloves (the kitchen cleaning kind). I've had family members freak out on me about but I'm the only one who is going to do it so TOUGH TITTIES!
Here you go!
As someone who's been living in Beijing for the past 3 years, yes, it's bad, but a lot of things that get posted about are embellished. That said, winter is worse because of municipal heating.
The spring days aren't nearly so bad. It's Los Angeles levels of air most of the time.
If you're worried go grab yourself one of these and a pair of these to keep your lungs clean. I personally use these. It might be rude to keep them on indoors, but unless you're at a high end office or shopping center the air is the same as outdoors. Hopefully your gf's relatives got IQAir, otherwise you're still SOL for like 75% of the time since I'm assuming you'll be indoors for the most part. You also can't have it on when eating, when the second hand smoke will get ya.
http://www.amazon.com/3M-Facepiece-Respirator-Respiratory-Protection/dp/B00AR63G12
try this one it's better
with these for dust
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00328IAO0/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1944687702&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00AR63G12&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=05RTG7C32WSA7VDPJ52J
I have glasses and yes it does make a difference because glasses fog up and it's always a pain.
keep in mind once you open your cartridges filters they are really only good for about 30 days.
http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/565206O/3m-cartridge-and-filter-replacement-faqs.pdf?fn=CartChangeFAQ.pdf
Not sure if you wanted to stick with the military look (which is cool) but here is some of what I use. Very effective, interchangeable masks depending on conditions, reasonable price. this 3M respirator with some of these or a few of these
The first (and last) time I used an angle grinder without a respirator, I wound up with a sore upper respiratory tract for a solid month. Respirators are cheap. If your instructor won't provide one, buy your own. Hell, buy your own anyways. They can be useful around the house if you ever decide to paint or do renovations, or even if you have a particularly stinky S.O. in the bathroom.
This respirator with these filters are what I use. P100, which means oil-proof and blocks 99.97% of particles, plus nuisance-level organic vapor filtering.
http://www.amazon.com/3M-Comfort-Facepiece-Reusable-Respirator/dp/B00IF7RCU6/
And these filters: http://www.amazon.com/Tekk-Particulate-Nuisance-Organic-Release/dp/B007STCT00/
Well FWIW this mask and this mask both exceed military standards for CBN protection. So that could, if you weren't in a direct blast area, help you get somewhere to safety within 40-80 hours. Just don't expect to be eating or drinking in those things. Or having facial hair if you need to use them. I might have to spring for the goatee look. *Sigh* And also get my eyes lasered.
Edit: For clarification, if you're concerned about CBN stuff and you go with the 3M mask these are the filters to get. You want P100 Acid/Gas filters.
Oh nothing wrong with N95 - definitely has its uses. It's good, basic filtration, but the same job can be accomplished by a $0.75 dust mask.
Here's some info on the N## and P## filtration ratings: https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/topics/respirators/disp_part/default.html
What mask or respirator you use will depend upon your uses. What did you have in mind?
​
Personally, I keep some of these around for most random uses that come up: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000TVSY9O/
​
And I have this respirator: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008MCUT86/
with these filters: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007STCT00/
for more serious contaminants, extended use, or to block oils and vapors.
I use this one. It does a great job, but in my experience it helps if you are clean shaven. Throw some of these on it and you'll be hot to trot. I don't get any extra goggle fog than I do just wearing my goggles on their own.
VOC is a 'volatile organic compound'. Look up 3m half mask respirators. You want to purchase the pink filters like these.
https://www.amazon.com/3M-Organic-Cartridge-Respiratory-Protection/dp/B00BT2SWTE
Hope it helps. 3m has the exact info on their website.
refinishing stuff is really good too. Oh yeah. Get a good mask. I use a http://www.amazon.com/3M-62023HA1-A-Professional-Multi-purpose-Respirator/dp/B002NMICB2/ It's amazing how much nicer woodworking can be with a good mask. Especially refinishing, with all that crappy finish stuff in the air.
I personally like the N100's. I hate dust boogers, and the N100 is the only one that will block out mold, which I am very sensitive to. If you are getting good lumber that has no lumber mold on it the N95 should be fine however. You probably don't need the P as you will just be dealing with particulates. However, I have the half face respirator with these pink P100 3M filters. The fit is a lot better than a disposable, and the replacement filters are like 12 bucks for a 2 pack, not too bad as they will last a decent while.
Read this.
Then get one of these (ensuring that you get an air-tight seal with the right size, best bet is to go to a hardware store and try a few on, holding the inhalation valves closed (shown here)) with a few sets of these filters, as they will need to be changed regularly.
Here is the setup I use at work
3M Half Facepiece Reusable Respirator 6100/07024(AAD), Respiratory Protection, Small (Pack of 1) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007JZ1NIM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_1TrKybJ33KZGZ
3M 2097 P100 Particulate Filter with Organic Vapor Relief, 1 Pair https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00328IAO0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_KSrKybG6XV6MN
A shady area (I'm thinking under trees, not in a garage) may help, but won't stop the resin from curing. If you have a covered area, that may be a better option.
Alternatively, I would recommend getting a face mask to help with the headaches and the smell that's bothering you. I use a couple different kinds when working with materials (from a mask that has a vent filter, to a full on mask with big filters on it, for example: https://www.amazon.com/3M-Disposable-Respirator-Respiratory-Protection/dp/B007JZ1P8A/ref=sr_1_15?keywords=face+mask+for+chemicals&qid=1569175931&sr=8-15 I use a face mask like this with the big pink filters when spraying clear coat and automotive paints and it works great https://www.amazon.com/3M-Cartridge-60926-Respiratory-Protection/dp/B009POHLRC/ref=pd_cp_328_3/146-5296099-0774129?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B009POHLRC&pd_rd_r=e038d1c4-898e-46d1-8128-f7cb70c56aa8&pd_rd_w=8t2o5&pd_rd_wg=E6hUd&pf_rd_p=ef4dc990-a9ca-4945-ae0b-f8d549198ed6&pf_rd_r=P70GJ26Y4VJQ8F56WTTB&psc=1&refRID=P70GJ26Y4VJQ8F56WTTB ).
If your company doesn't care too much about obscure rules and is willing to look the other way on you not being certified and cleared for respiratory protection then a 3M half mask is your best bet. P100 dust/ash filtration plus organic vapor using activated carbon to scrub chemicals out of the air or just for odor relief. Use it all the time for changing a relative's cats' litter boxes and I do not smell a thing with either filter.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007JZ1N00/ plus https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007STCT00 (less expensive, wears out and odor breaks through faster than the big filter, but very lightweight) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AEFCKKY (more expensive, lasts a very very long time, heavier)
If your site is super anal about OSHA rules when it comes to masks then you'll have to stick to disposable masks and not reusable rubber masks with filter cartridges. 3M makes ash/dust protection ones with a thin activated carbon layer for odor relief.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0052EA7NY
this respirator and these filters are what i buy for my fiance. i use this one but its excessive for the first time casting :)
basically you want to look for A2 clasification or better on your filters, these will work for woodworking as well but you may want to get seperate filters for woodworking and just swap them out when needed as the A2 filters are more expensive. a mask with replacable filters will be more costly at first but much more comfortable and cheaper to replace filters than the whole thing.
everyone likes the 3m stuff because its generally very good (i only dont use one since i like my powered unit with no belt power pack) and it is everywhere so replacements are easy to get. i find they tend to last less time than my cleanspace filters but they do have less filter area so that natural ( glassing every day 2-3 hours ill go through a 3m set in around 20 days to a month, cleanspace one has lasted about 7 months of resin work with no detrimental effects so far)
hope that helps!
I can't say for certain, because that's my friends hood, but I'm 99% sure most half face respirators will work if you have pancake cartridges. I prefer the 3M 7501 Silicone Half Face.
3M 7500 7502 Series Professional Half Facepiece Respirator
3M 2097 P100 Particulate Filter
Thanks for the response. My company will reimburse me for respirator stuff but I didn't know that when I initially bought it so I'll have to see if they can do it without the receipt which is long gone. Did you mean this purple one? I was going to get these ones:
https://www.amazon.com/3M-Advanced-Particulate-Respiratory-Protection/dp/B009POHH94/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487640450&sr=8-1&keywords=3m+2297
Would these be the best option for silica/floor dust?
This is the respirator that I have and I love it (maybe more than I should). It's so comfortable that I can go a solid 6 hrs before I need to take it off. I do most of my work in a medium sized garage with poor ventilation (unless the door is open) and the difference in air quality it makes is rediculos. I could be hitting stuff with a grinder for a couple hours straight and the air smells just fine with the thing on, but as soon as I take it off, I would get a big face full of nasty air and put it back on, then open the garage door for a bit to air things out. I also use these filters for pretty much all of my dusty work. They're low profile and fit great under a face shield, but you'd probably need something different if you wanted protection from fumes.
Edit: these are the same filters at a better price
I don't know if this meets your fashion needs, but the 3M respirators have good sealing. You'll want to get the organic vapor cartridges.
This with these.
That's very thoughtful of you. I'm not a safety expert and you should read the instructions on anything you purchase, but here's my experience.
The 2 masks I use are a 3M respirator like this and an RZ dust mask like this. The RZ dust mask is much lighter, but it never seems to get a great seal, and the fact that I can still smell sawdust or solvents when using it makes me not trust how protective it is. I really like the 3M respirator and would recommend it over the RZ. I have not tried the Elipse mask yet, but it might be my next purchase just to see if I like it better than the 3M.
Just remember that there are 2 kinds of filters for the 3M - pink ones for dust, and white ones like this or this grey one for filtering chemicals, or Organic Vapors. The dust ones last a while before needing to be replaced. The white/grey ones only last a couple days once you open the bags, because they contain activated charcoal that is constantly absorbing materials from the air until they become saturated. They'll still act as a dust mask after that initial ~48 hours, but if you're painting or applying finish, you should use a new one. Storing in ziplock bags can prolong their life as well I've read.
Is this what your thinking of?
3M 701 Black/Orange Filter Adapter - 051138-29113 [PRICE is per BAG of 2] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004RH1RXG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_YY76BbRZSP6KF
It's up to you, I haven't had much of a problem with ebay/amazon for this kind of thing.
Don't buy 3M products from Ebay though (except this adapter, which I got from ebay). The filters on Ebay are fake.
Here's an amazon listing for the adapter and mask.
https://www.amazon.com/3M-Black-Orange-Filter-Adapter/dp/B004RH1RXG
https://www.amazon.com/Respirator-Protection-Industrial-Chemical-Handling/dp/B076DPFJ58/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1542224607&sr=8-1&keywords=israeli+surplus+mask&dpID=41fz5AV4T2L&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
It's not sexy, but if you want proper protection and comfort, go for a respirator. For smoke protection, you really want a P100 filter.
I don’t know I usually see them used interchangeably.
I have this one: 3M Advanced Particulate Filter, 2297, P100 (Pack of 2 Filters) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009POHH94/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_tr03CbED30NBD
P100 + “nuisance level” odor protection which I think means protects from minor odors / gasses but not at all sufficient for real gas / odor protection.
You can get separate filters to attach to the same mask for strong gas / oil / chemical protection (I think you need the right kind for the right chemical) so for a cheap mask it’s comfortable and accepts all kinds of filters.
They sell it as “disposable” but I’ve had mine for over a year.
I have a set of worktunes with bluetooth for hearing protection. They're excellent. I love listening to music while working, and with a bluetooth connection, I wear them all day and listen to music that's on my phone. They don't get super loud, but that's by design; they're hearing protection after all. ;-)
This mask is great since it has the unlatching without removing feature. I use these filters when sanding or cutting wood, and these filters when spraying finishes.
What cartridges would be appropriate? Something like [this?]
(https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00328IAO0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_pi98yb9KNHVQ0)
Even the same exact pile of powder will have scoops varying as much as double/half due to how you scoop it. I use the Gemini-20 which is pretty reliable as long as you use it properly and weigh in the neighborhood of 20-30mg+ and dilute volumetrically; you're not going to get any more reliable unless you chip in at least $2-300. Controlling air currents is still pretty important and if you're really particular, you can grab particulate filters but meh, I've gotten comfortable with it. I actually trust my vendors a FUCK TON more than I do street drugs, both in purity and a feedback system of other people that know what they're doing, who sometimes send it for GC/MS testing for everybody.
It takes some heavy duty breathing gear to make a difference.
by all means , if you dont wanna buy habor freight you dont need to its good enough to start out
these are things i am personally buying for my self
​
small things could be , 2 to 4 of these
https://www.harborfreight.com/35-lbs-rated-4-34-in-heavy-duty-welding-magnet-63798.html
some clamps
https://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-f-style-welding-clamp-63512.html
https://www.harborfreight.com/18-in-c-clamp-locking-pliers-64564.html 2 of these would be nice
some C - clams would be nice tho these are not the best ones , bigger ones are better imo
https://www.harborfreight.com/8-inch-industrial-c-clamps-39610.html
​
if he dont have an angle grinder , this one has great reviews
https://www.harborfreight.com/corded-4-12-in-7-amp-professional-angle-grinder-56435.html
some hearing protection
https://www.harborfreight.com/hearing-protector-64675.html
a face shield for grinding
https://www.harborfreight.com/adjustable-face-shield-46526.html
soap stones for marking the metal
https://www.harborfreight.com/flat-soap-stones-5-pc-60633.html
​
i have been told by a few people a respirator would be nice
https://www.amazon.com/3M-Respirator-6300-Respiratory-Protection/dp/B007JZ1MK6?tag=weldingchamps-20
https://www.amazon.com/3M-50051131070009-Particulate-Filter-2091/dp/B07571LKP4/ref=pd_sbs_469_t_0/134-3850798-5169829?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07571LKP4&pd_rd_r=7bda400a-3de9-4235-8a30-af24291d4f08&pd_rd_w=dkAXF&pd_rd_wg=EX0oJ&pf_rd_p=5cfcfe89-300f-47d2-b1ad-a4e27203a02a&pf_rd_r=HWQAFKBFBWKEAJHMKG7V&psc=1&refRID=HWQAFKBFBWKEAJHMKG7V
hope these idea's help
Ah, good question. I use 3M 7000 series Half-face Respirator, it's the top of the line model and is only about ~$30 US with filters if you get a good package deal.
I've used a few different filters and there are notable differences and exactly what you would expect. The big bulky OV/P95 Cartridges impact breathing the most, the 3M 2297 P100 filters are a significant improvement in ease of breathing, and lastly the 3M Advanced 2291 P100 filters are the least impactful as their are purposely designed for ease of breathing. I started with them in that order and have transitioned to the 2291 filters, a vast improvement and likely more than adequate for pollution considerations. The OV/P95 Cartridges are overkill and are what professional painters and chemists use, plus they're more expensive.
Yes, you will get lots of condensation buildup, but I don't find that to be too problematic.
this is the particular mask I use with these cartridges.
These cartridges are compatible, actually available (and cheaper), and protect against the exact same set of things. I haven't been able to figure out the difference between the 60923 and 60928 cartridges (maybe lifespan?)
Can someone explain to my why on amazon.ca the 6001 filter costs $19-$20, the 6003 filter costs $17 and the 6006 filter costs $15? I want it for painting lacquer (just to be safe for one project). All my research and reading 3m documents say 6003 and 6006 cover everything 6001 covers and more. I don't get it. Should I just stick to 6001 because it's safer and more specialized?
6001 Filter
6001 filter with life indicator
6006 filter
6003 filter
Like this chart says that 6003 and 6006 cover what 6001 does and more, why would it be cheaper?
http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/40744O/3m-respirator-cartridge-and-filter-selection-poster.pdf
I have a beard and I really enjoy this 3M mask. Picked up a couple 2097 p100 Filters. What's nice is I can swap out the filters depending on what I'm doing.
>Is there any magic perfect mask out there?
No
>I'm just starting out in woodworking so I'm hesitant to spend the big bucks on a good mask...
This is what I use and would recommend. It's excellent for dust, and you can pop on the organic vapor cartridges for when you are using chemicals.
>I wear glasses, so I have to not only avoid fogging, but also one that sits comfortably with the glasses and doesn't push them up.
Me too. But a lot of times I wear goggles over my glasses as they are not safety rated. The 3M respirator doesn't interfere or fog up
> get uncomfortable easy. Lots of masks either push the glasses up, or push hard on my nose. I'm worried about full face masks as well for comfort and visibility.
This is an area where you're just going to have to put your big boy pants on. A rubber mask with filters hanging off of it strapped tightly to your face in 2 directions isn't comfortable. These aren't supposed to be comfy. Some are better than others. The one I linked doesn't bother me any more than it should, and sometimes I wear it for hours. You know what's more uncomfortable? COPD
>I have asthma and allergies, making some masks hard to breath inside as it restricts too much air flow.
A proper respirator like the 3M will still let you breathe as easily as possible as long as the filters are clean. Avoid the half useless RZ style masks that seem to be really popular.
>have a beard which I feel must mess up some of the sealing of the masks (although its a short beard, not sure how much of a problem this is)
Big problem. I do as well. Even with the mask as tight as I can get it, I'm still blowing walnut snots after a ton of sanding. The only thing that's going to work with a beard is a diving helmet or something like a Trend Airshield. Which is about as compact and comfortable as a diving helmet.
What you need to do is be super anal about dust collection. That means buying tools that are capable of excellent dust collection (Festool for example)
I use these, which go with this, so you can have hot pink AND talk like Bane. And, like, avoid cancer or silicosis or some shit.
Mask:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B008MCUULW/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Filters:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B002KFFY9A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s02?ie=UTF8&th=1
$25 + 6 and you've got it covered.
Well, let's start from the top and work our way down
"Tactical" shemagh
Dune sclera lenses
3M 6200 half mask
Torch goggles
3 yards of fabric for the cloak
Tunic that I got from a ren faire years ago
550 cord
Avatar knife plus a coat of white paint
Thai fisherman pants
And the base layer, an open face Zentai suit
Plus my old desert combat boots. I also had a nose tube that I made with a bread bag clip, electrical tape, and 550 cord, which is obviously not shown here and could definitely be made much better with a proper septum clip.
Edit: And a handful of random washers as water rings.
I learned about PPE from the perspective of a woodworker, which has some overlap with detailing in terms of PPE when it comes to chemicals. Woodworkers commonly wear half mask respirators (I use this model from 3M) and then swap in filters for whatever they're doing at the moment. I wear that respirator for many hours at a time and it's very comfortable to wear and use. Just make sure to get one that fits your face shape and size, and to keep facial hair to a minimum.
As for filters, I use P100 filters for getting rid of particulate matter, in our case fine wood dust, which might be less relevant for detailing since particulates from abrasion typically get trapped in water or polish. They have some degree of organic vapor relief but it's not good enough if you're spraying paint or working with strong chemicals. For those, I use a dedicated organic vapor cartridge like this one.
There may be some better dedicated filter cartridges to use since 3M has a pretty wide product range, but that respirator's definitely a good one from my experience.
I think it's cool you want to pick up a hobby your father had. It will be a nice reminder every time you pick up the gun.
I use this 100% for miniatures, and it works great!!
​
Alright, here is the list I bought. It's a bit more than you want to spend, but this will ensure you can get going right away, and not be frustrated. I did a fair amount of research on different forums, sites, and youtube videos. If you want to know why I chose something, feel free to ask. I was going to bold the ones that you absolutely need, but I would say everything in the first set are a must.
​
​
​
​
For the compressor, I keep mine at about 18-20 while doing miniatures and it's perfect.
I do 1 drop Improver, 5 drops thinner, and 6 drops primer and have perfect flow.
​
Feel free to ask any questions! Good luck!
Hvstle
3M Ultimate FX Full Facepiece Reusable Respirator, with HEPA filters. Spring, summer, fall and during the winter when it's above freezing.
It's very comfortable, you can even sleep in it.
/u/sjwking
3M Particulate Filter P100, 2 units per pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009XYN7O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_rBDpDbZ9230NH
I use these cartridges 3M Multi Gas/Vapor Cartridge/Filter 60926, P100 Respiratory Protection
And I don’t smell the spray at all until I take the mask off.
Those cartridges go with this mask: This one
Some people swear the HF chisels are good for starting, I don't agree with that sentiment because neither set includes a bowl gouge which is the essential tool in, you guessed it, bowls! Most people at least give bowl turning a try, even if that's not their primary interest. Definitely read up on the safety issues at play between spindle roughing gouges and bowl gouges. If you want to turn bowls, you will need either a carbide tipped tool, a very good scraper, or a bowl gouge. The wiki details the tradeoffs about carbide vs traditional; I favor traditional because that's how I learned.
That mask is too flimsy to really offer much protection. I suggest this model which is also conveniently spacious enough to wear with this respirator using these filters under it. Breathing protection is as important as other forms of safety, especially when sanding!
Please be safety cautious and remember that the mast will protect you from small particles, chips, and moderate fragments during turning, but it will offer you zero protection against something like a bowl that comes flying off the lathe. Stand out of the line of fire!
3M 701 Black/Orange Filter Adapter - 051138-29113 [PRICE is per BAG of 2] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004RH1RXG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_L2lsDbTGT90DX
Adapter for 3m bayonet style filters
I use these with a full face mask around my elegoo mars and I still don't feel safe. I can't imagine why the hell they would bother packing dust masks. I hope we don't see a good chunk of the 3d printing community get hit with some nasty illnesses in a few years.
3M Organic Vapor/Acid Gas Cartridge/Filter 60923, P100 Respiratory Protection (Pack of 2) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AEFCKKY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_v6AtDbC9TRM0S
To elaborate: 3M P100 filters and the mask to go with it.. Dont skimp, the $40 now will save you alot of pain when mesothelioma sets in.
Source: I work for 3M and have had extensive asbestos training.
Lmfao, even a N95 respirator will only protect your lungs.
What you need is a fucking gas mask with 60926 filter to properly protect your eyes and skin
So, just to clarify - if I were to purchase one of these: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008MCUULW/ref=biss_dp_t_asn, I would get this cartridge (http://www.amazon.com/3M-Filter-Adapter-2000-Series/dp/B003MOMTEG), and insert these filters inside (http://www.amazon.com/3M-R-2091-Particulate-Filter-4-Pack/dp/B0009XYN7O)?
Also - how long does a pair of filters last? How often do you replace them?
Do you wear the mask at all times in the shop? I won't have dust collection for quite some time, but the ~monthly leafblower to the garage workspace technique, along with frequent shop-vaccum use will probably be in my future.
I just picked up one of these too and it works great. I like the fact that the exhaust vent is down-firing so it doesn't fog up my safety glasses. The only problem I had was that I found it nearly impossible to figure out which set of filters/attachments I needed from the various pages I read online. I eventually, after two rounds of purchasing, ended up with:
Having read all the instructions it seems like there is a way to skip #2 and #3 and just connect up the big pink P100 filters to the respirator, maybe with another adaptor in between, but I'm happy with what I ended up with.
Yay! I hope your life gets better from your plans :)
Helping people online makes me happy. I also like cat gifs, movies, my cats, homemade gluten-free baking, and reading :)
These mask filters would help me.
If you're going to get a respirator, start the comfy 7500 series and get a P100 filter. Why filter 95% of dangerous particles when you can filter 100%?
https://www.amazon.com/3M-Low-Maintenance-Cartridge-Purifying-Respirator/dp/B00AEFCP0E/ref=sr_1_sc_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1475010078&sr=8-3-spell&keywords=3m+vapor+filters
That would work for our masks I believe but you may want to confirm models. I use these charcoal filters for when I apply my finishes and use the pink pads for when I sand or cause dust.
couldn't people have just worn these which filter out 99.97% of stuff in the air?
Yes, but this one that you linked does not include a set of filters, so you need to also buy welding rated filters. I do a lot of tig welding, so I grind tungsten regularly, and we are supplied with 2097 filters
Im looking up 3M filters and I see some that are labeled “Organic Vapor Cartridge” https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BT2SWTE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_bPMYAbPPF5G0N
Would this work or should I just find charcoal ones?
A respirator is awesome. I highly recommend the 3M 7500 series (e.g. 7502). The vent on the 7500 faces downwards, so if you're wearing a face shield (as I do when running a bench or angle grinder), it won't fog the shield. Amazon Link
The P100 "Pancake" filter are a good match. Low profile and organic vapor relief (i.e. good working with small amounts of solvents). Another Link
Finally, for ear protection, I like earplugs with a string attached. Easy to take in and out and low profile if you're also wearing a faceshield or welding helmet, or whatever. example
Although I have not used it yet, I bought a 3m respirator and a bunch of the 3M 6001PB1-1 Organic Vapor Replacement Cartridge filters after reading online. https://www.amazon.com/3M-6001PB1-1-Organic-Replacement-Cartridge/dp/B000XBKLLE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1497092613&sr=8-2&keywords=3m+filter+cartridge
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BT2SWTE/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B00BT2SWTE&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=21517efd-b385-405b-a405-9a37af61b5b4&pd_rd_wg=7mPKN&pf_rd_r=WH5EP7APXYAW8SBF5MKV&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&pd_rd_w=FZmmD&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pd_rd_r=6650ebdc-e91e-11e8-a0b8-b3ecfb8dcc27
Which type of filter should I choose for wildfire?
$40 you say?
If you’re willing to spend about $5 more you can even get quick release and an exhale deflector
Is there any reason the slightly cheaper 60926 cartridge would be less sufficient than the 60928 one?
Don't want to be cheap but this will be a long term hobby so don't wanna pay more than needed. ($17 vs $30)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009POHLRC
My enclosure is large enough to keep the 120 mm fan with the filtration inside the case, so the noise is very little, also I put a speed control on it to control heat loss, as for the 5015 blower, that’s 100 inside the case and just keeps filtering the case air. The blower runs 100% of the time. The top fan only runs when I am printing, it turns on by Temperature. (Link below)
AC Infinity, Fan Speed Controller for 100 to 125V AC Axial Muffin Cooling Fans, Single Connector, for DIY Cooling Ventilation Exhaust Projects https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00809BQZG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_EHo0CbBKRZNA1
LCD Digital Thermostat Temperature Controller 2-Stage Outlet Heating & Cooling - 1100W, -40~248℉, w/Sensor for Fermentation Grow Tent HVAC Equipment Seedling Heat Mat https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B8ZLWGG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_aIo0CbMKD3W8V
3M Organic Vapor/Acid Gas Cartridge/Filter 60923, P100 Respiratory Protection (Pack of 2) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AEFCKKY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_qJo0CbARDCREZ
Anewise Electrolux Washable and Reusable Hepa Filter, Fits Electrolux Eureka Sanitaire HF12, H12, HF1 and EL012W Upright/Canister Filter (2) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N5P4Q7B/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_.Jo0Cb64SE966
5pcs Anti-static Activated Carbon Filter Sponge for 493 Solder Smoke Absorber ESD Fume Extractor 130x130x10mm https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CVK23NY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_yKo0CbFZ1FKCN
I just got this today. It won't fog your hood or safety glasses!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3M-7500-7502-Series-Professional-Half-Facepiece-Respirator-Medium-/371688005845?hash=item568a54e0d5:g:uToAAOSwz2lXCwSL
Pair that with this and now you're golden.
https://www.amazon.com/Particulate-Filter-Nuisance-Organic-Release/dp/B007STCT00/ref=sr_1_2ie=UTF8&qid=1488270841&sr=8-2&keywords=2097+3m+filter
Fits tight in my pipeliner hood.
Not all eye protection is the same. I use the 3M Lexa Splash GoggleGear. Those were recommended by 3M for simultaneous use with a respirator. Regular glasses don't have any protection around the eyes, so when wearing a respirator, the dust is funneled right into my eyes under the lenses. Larger cheap $4 splash goggles were too large to work with the respirator.
Also, that respirator I linked to is just the reusable part. He'll need filters. For only dust, a pair of cheap P100 filters will work. As soon as he starts painting, using chemical finishes, anything with a vapor, he'll need something more versatile that absorbs the chemicals as well as dust.
If you're going to use a paper dust-mask, you need one with a "down-firing exhaust". But, I'm going to go ahead and suggest you upgrade to a respirator with filters. They're more comfortable, get a better seal against your face, have replaceable filters, and universally have forward or down-firing exhausts. By the time you've used a handfull of dust masks, the respirator is cheaper too.
My go-to respirator is the 3M 6000 series - they come in small, medium, and large - but you want a medium unless you have really weird facial proportions. You'll need to pair it with some filters, they're available in P95 and P100. Personally I find the P95 filters are more than good enough for me.
There's a whole 3M respirator ecosystem though - I'm going to shamelessly link to a nice-long comment on selecting the respirator components and the resulting discussion.
edit: My wife wears a 3M 6100 (the small) with prescription glasses without issue and I wear a 6200 with generic poly-carbonate safety glasses and find it quite comfortable.
That respirator is great, using it myself. As for filters, they are marked differently depending on where you live:
North America: OV/P100, 3M product number 60921
Europe: Filters marked A2P3. For 3M it means combining 2 filters - 6055 and 5935.
Not sure how they're marked in other parts of the world.
There are masks you can buy, the filters however have to be replaced often and they can be quite expensive, but if you plan on staying in Jerusalem, then I guess you have no other choice.
https://www.amazon.com/3M-Disposable-Particulate-Respirator-Exhalation/dp/B001BXRRH4
This one is relatively cheap and is a p100 mask, meaning it should filter at least 99.97% of airborne particles to be certified as such. You may need to adjust it though so that it fits properly, any mask will be useless if the fit is not correct for your face.
https://www.amazon.ca/3M-2097-Particulate-Filter/dp/B00328IAO0/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_328_bs_lp_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=518B5SNTGTSPTRE1KCPE
These are the filters for the mask.
I use a similar respirator as you do.
These filters are on when sanding and when using shellac
I add this when using other chemicals
Ear protection. very comfortable to wear all the time. Still able to hear conversations and music.
Eye protection. I got tired of scratching the plastic lenses on the cheapies, and also wanted something to keep the dust out
A lot of people like to think that using non-toxic acrylics means you don't have to worry about air safety. Inhaling atomized paint down to your lungs is just as deadly as any other kind of paint. Get yourself a good respirator whether you get a booth or not. Just make sure the filter cartridges you get are for organic vapors, like these.
Looking into getting into airbrushing and getting the necessary equipment. I'm carefully looking through respirator masks since I want to work with enamel/lacquers and don't want lung cancer and saw in the tools wiki this mask.
Would replacing the default cartridge and using this organic vapor cartridge, organic vapor cartridge be what I would have to do? Thanks!
I starting using this mask with these filters a few weeks ago and it's made a world of difference for me. I just hate having to wear it for hours after I've made dust because it's all floating around.
I love my dust mask. I use these filters and they have held up really well.
I don't have a router so do you just use a straight bit and a plunge router?
What are the preferred commercial models? I have a couple off-the-shelf 3M respirators from the hardware store with replaceable filters that I use primarily for spraying pesticides (https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B002NMICB2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1) but am curious what would be necessary for a proper prep mask.
Thank you! When I ended up going to order everything, I got that mask and a few sets of http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00328IAO0, and it works great! I hate hate HATE any sort of mask or anything covering my face, not even a blanket when it's cold, and I don't even notice the mask when I'm busy doing something. Straps are comfy too, I was hoping it wouldn't be a giant band behind the head like my paintball goggles, it ended up being... The best way I can describe it to people is a combination of one of those little Jewish hats, and the strap people put on glasses that goes behind the neck.
I use this with these. they work wonderfully for me and seal over my beard.
Thanks for the info! After cleaning up should I avoid the area for about 24 hours or longer (and/or hose it down), since it's outdoors?
I'll pickup a suit. I'll be using a 3M 2097 filters with a 3M6300 Mask https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00328IAO0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Go for the 3M 7500 Half Face series. It's silicone so it gives a really comfortable fit over long periods of time and make sure you buy the correct filters. Here are some links:
Filters:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000U749VE/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1A7ASPLKOD0I6
Mask:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B008MCUT86/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_7?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P01X9KQVX701
I decided on this one: 3M Full Facepiece Reusable Respirator 6900/54159
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007JZ1M10/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I purchased this cartridge: 3M Organic Vapor/Acid Gas Cartridge/Filter 60923, P100 Respiratory Protection (Pack of 2)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AEFCKKY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08__o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've included the links to them on Amazon which is where I purchased them. I love the mask as it is easy to get a good seal and easy to take off. I have a small goatee and I get a perfect seal with this mask. I treated five different times last year and didn't smell anything or have any breathing issues after using the mask with the cartridges.
I'm not in London, but for really bad days up North, or for example if there is uanvoidable smoke from a building fire, I have 3M 7093B filters with a 3M 6500QL half-face mask. It's cheaper to order from Amazon USA rather than UK, and I got the mask itself from someone on eBay. I didn't want to get filters themselves from eBay due to fakes being commmon.
I selected the 7093B filters because they might not be affected [as much] by rain. Other filters can do different types of particulates & gasses - oil/hydrocarbon/organic vapour cartridges etc but they can get quite expensive.
Note that you can get different sized masks and fitting is recommended - I've seen people need to try 6+ different masks to get one that fits their face correctly & passes all the seal tests. Arco stores apparently do fitting.
The filter cartridges I got are these.
When I breathe in and out, I hear some rubber part moving due to suction right next to my nostrils. I am pretty sure the mask is working well because it was very dusty (removing bathroom drywall) and I didn't feel any irritation in my nose.
When the cartridges first arrived, I thought I needed to take the purple sticker off, but that was a no go. There are no holes underneath the sticker.
It is possible that the cartridges are there only to absorb fumes (in case of volatile substances) and there is an additional filter in 3M 7502 right next to the nose which does the main filtering. But I really want someone to confirm this speculation.
I went for this one, but haven't tried it yet (hasn't arrived)
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B008MCUS28/
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B079X5C3QP/
2097 is pretty great. Cheap and compact.
The 60926 however is their "everything" filter. Organic and non-organic vapors, oils, odors, chlorine... I recently had to use one in a room flooded with toxic ozone. Couldn't smell a thing, never got lightheaded. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B009POHLRC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If you're doing research you may end up using isocyanates and if so will want (if not a forced air system) one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007JZ1M10/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
With one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009POHLRC/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Filters are good for 8 hours of exposure. I'm not familiar with curative concerns for sugar motors but you can look up the MSDS to see the PPE requirements.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00AEFCKKY/ is what I use
I wear the 6001 organic vapor as well as the P100 for dust. Although you could just get a combo filter that would do dust and paint/varnish in one for just a bit more money. http://www.amazon.com/3M-Cartridge-Filter-Respiratory-Protection/dp/B009POHLRC/
If you are welding galvanized metal (such as exhaust pipe) make sure you wear a proper respirator