(Part 2) Best indoor gardening & hydroponic products according to redditors
We found 5,016 Reddit comments discussing the best indoor gardening & hydroponic products. We ranked the 1,155 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the products ranked 21-40. You can also go back to the previous section.
![Lovebay Timing Function Dual Head Grow Light 36LED 5 Dimmable Levels Grow Lamp Bulbs with Adjustable 360 Degree Gooseneck for Indoor Plants Hydroponics Greenhouse Gardening [2019 Upgraded]](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51daLEzWR0L.jpg)
I've always thought it was pretty junky... I've wanted to get lights to put on the tops of the shelves, so they're directly above the plants and maybe find a new shelf. But these have worked out since November of last year! I started using really cheap LED lights from Walmart, highest wattage equivalency with the highest color spectrum(usually 5000k).
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I now use these:
The pink light is ok, it keeps the unicorn planter happy, a picture is in that gallery up there, it has lots of pastels. But I personally wouldn't have purchased it. It was a gift. I was *really* impressed with the cree lights, especially the 100watt equiv. light, as my string of pearls has gone absolutely insane!
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Edited to add: This is the lamp I use...
That's very cool! I should warn you though, caring for a baby beardie isn't easy or cheap. They need to eat at least twice a day, have salad made every morning, have poops cleaned every day, and have baths regularly, which is a lot to do and can be overwhelming. Their food is also pretty expensive because they can eat over 100 insects per day, it often comes to $20-40 a month. Plus the initial setup will cost a few hundred dollars. I say this not to scare you off (I always love when people get their first reptile) but to warn you. Reading it again it sounds more complicated than it actually is, but you should definitely be prepared to deal with those things.
For now make sure he/she is in a place where they can get to 75-80f. You can worry about high temps later, right now I don't want to risk overheating. Don't worry about feeding for now, they need specific temps to be able to digest, just give some water for now, maybe a place to hide. This should be fine for a few days while you gather the materials you need.
Read through the sidebar and ask questions if something is confusing.
The basic list of stuff you'll need is here:
Enclosure: minimum adult size is 36" x 18" x 18", but 4' x 2' x 2' is better. Can be an aquarium or a wood/pvc enclosure. You can get a 20g tank and upgrade, but there's no point in spending extra money, they don't get scared by big spaces.
Heat: a heat lamp is the best heat source for beardies, it doesn't have to be reptile branded. As long as it gives off bright white/yellow light and gets the temp to 100-110f it works, I have a 90w halogen flood light.
UVB: proper UVB light is essential. The best/only guaranteed good UVB lights are either Mercury vapor bulbs (heat and UVB combined) or fluorescent tubes. Compact bulbs can cause eye problems. Tubes are used much more often and are cheaper and better for beardies. You'll want either a reptisun 10.0 or Arcadia 12% tube, roughly 2/3 the length of the enclosure. They come in two sizes, t5 and t8, t5 is newer, stronger, and better. It gives you more options for where to place it and is lasts 12 months instead of 6 so it's cheaper. Basically, you want either a reptisun 10.0 t5 or Arcadia 12% t5.
UVB fixture: heat lamp fixtures are easy to find, but for uvb it's a bit tougher. This is what I use for my 22" t5: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AKKUBDQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_as8FHHQMbU3iD
Timer for the lights
Substrate: tile is the best, imo. Paper towels and reptile carpet also work, just stay away from sand.
Basking spot: a large, flat object that absorbs heat well, a tile on a platform works well.
Hides: personally I've never seen my Beardie use a hide, but they're good to have.
Other decor: totally up to you, just make sure it's safe. Reptile hammocks are popular.
Dusting powder: you'll want calcium w/D3 and vitamins, calcium should be used more often.
Thermometer: analog thermometers are inaccurate, you want either a probe thermometer or a temp gun. This is what I have: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00837ZGRY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_L679M528XRDNl
Some housing for feeder insects to stay alive for a few weeks and to gut-load them.
Let me know if I forget anything or if you have any questions. Good luck!
Filter: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005KMETHS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_N39fybPBJK5ZG
Exhaust Fan: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005KMOJPK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_z49fyb4P1CRJ1
Intake Fans: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009OXMZ3Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_j59fybSC6H4BM
LED:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RWYCRB2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_f69fyb5RCSWEH
Bucket Adapter for PC Fans:
https://www.etsy.com/shop/HighTech3D?ref=pr_shop_more
The rest were miscellaneous things I picked up at home depot. The links above are the main parts.
TL;DR: see links below.
Beyond the actual science of which light is best, it really depends for many casual plant owners whether they want the light to look "decor friendly" or they want it to do a bang-up job of growing their plants. Honestly, there aren't many effective lights that look like they belong in a residence. No matter what anyone says, when it comes to grow lights, you do get what you pay for.
Below are 5 well-recommended options. I own all these (and others), having tried many entry-level grow lights. They're ordered by price, low to high, from $15 bulbs that go in ordinary lamps to an excellent entry-level grow light for about $175. The lower end work best as a supplement for natural light. The higher end will let you grow almost anything, even without a window.
Hope this helps you. Any questions, just ask. And yes, there are detailed, technical, scientific explanations for why these are better options than others; you can dive in there if you choose. Let's get to those 5 lights:
Miracle LED Almost Free Energy 100W Spectrum Grow Lite - Daylight White Full Spectrum LED Indoor Plant Growing Light Bulb for DIY Horticulture, Hydroponics, and Indoor Gardens Single Pack
ACKE LED Grow Light for Indoor Plants,Plant Light for Grow Light Stand,DIY Indoor Growing Light Panel for Germination,Seedling,Vegetative Growth and Flowering
Three Heads Grow Lamp, Bevice Full Spectrum LED Plant Light Auto ON&Off with 3/6/12H Timer and Memory Function, Light Intensity Adjustable, for House Plants Seedling Growing Blooming Fruiting
Roleadro LED Grow Light 1000W Full Spectrum 3500k Sunlike Plant Light Dual-Chip with ON/Off Switch and Daisy Chain for Indoor Plants for Seedling,Succulents,Growing,Blooming and Fruiting
Spider Farmer SF 1000 LED Grow Light,with Samsung Chips LM301B & Dimmable Mean Well Driver, Sunlike Full Spectrum 3000K 5000K 660nm 760nm IR for Indoor Plants Veg Flower
Would a fixture like this solve the directional issues of a bulb style light? Just downloaded a light meter, what lux measurement is the goal at the leaves?
You’ll need to buy grow lights. :))
I use these two though other growers might recommend better:
LED Grow Light Bulb, TaoTronics... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0748D2SMB?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Dimmable Spectrum Plant Grow... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DH47QZM?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
First-hand experience three brands--Apollo, iPower, Aggro Max. Apollo tents are my favorite. And ~$100 US for a 4x4. If you plan on moving/breaking down and setting up the tent a bunch, the more expensive options will be made of stronger materials. If this tent is going to be in a really bright room during dark cycles, be prepared to tape up seams and zippers. Anything less than a $600 Gorilla tent is going to have some minor light leaks.
Reconsider two 600w HPS lights. Lots of people run one 600w in a 4x4. A 4x4 calls for about 800w of HID lighting. Once you pass that, you'll start to see diminishing returns. One dimmable 1000w with a cheap, wide hood will give you all the coverage you need. You'll likely be dialing it down a lot of the time.
I was cheap and just bought these from Amazon. I have them about two inches away from the top of these succulents. The lights stay on for 8-10 hours.
I’ve only ever grown with artificial lights (unique living situation) so here’s some I can personally vouch for and recommend.
Sansi bulbs. I have the 24W model (fits in any standard desk lamp) and the 15W lights. These have special lenses that focus the beam very strongly in one spot, like a spotlight so it can be raised pretty high and cover a large-ish area. Don’t underestimate these, I put a plant too close to center and it turned jet black in 2 days. He bounced back just fine but these are definitely strong.
Strip lights. I’ve since upgraded my Sansi’s to these with a dedicated shelf. These aren’t as strong, I talked to a user on r/Succulents that reported haw etiolation 9 inches away from the light. However, once she lowered it to 5 inches they said they get amazing stress coloration. To put it in perspective, they said they had a Black Prince that’s always been green but has since gone black like the plant’s supposed to be.
As a bonus, here are the shelves I use, they are exactly the same dimensions as the lights.
Both are very capable depending on your needs.
Edit 11/26/19: Sooo, the strip lights have shot up to $200 for some reason. When I linked them, they were only $49. It’s either a stock issue or the new price, not sure.
Not at all! Here's the link!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LG39B3M?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Anyone tried these? I’m looking for something in this price range
I have 3 sets of these guys (so 6 total lights) - https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07LG39B3M?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
They are hooked up to a $10 smart timer that's programmed to cycle the lights, 4 hours on and 10 minutes off (recommended by the manufacturer).
I've had them for 3 months and have observed decent growth and farina coloring.
I totally get it. When I had less budget I bought regular old clip lights and a couple of really high lumen bulbs, just enough for a couple of plants (more if you have only small plants, which is mostly what my collection consists of now.) Here's my old setup, you can just see the clip and how close I put super needy plants. Used
this light.
Just bought these at a recommendation from ewwmayo on gardenweb, wonderful so far. If your semps are still alive you can try putting them out now, more likely to survive in cold than no light.
Bookshelf: https://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/80279786/#/70263842
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Lights: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B074Y32PFZ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Screen to keep curious pets out: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MR2SZOJ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I used the self adhesive that came with the screen, but I'd definitely recommend sewing the border and velcro on if you have the means and the talent. Pulling the screen on and off weakens the adhesive for sure. The lights don't make much heat. They are also on a timer that I inherited so I don't have a link for that. But my plants really like it! I have an echeveria lola that has stress colors and lithops on the top shelf propped to be closer that I think are doing fine. They are starting to split on their own which I'm super excited about. My PVN also gets a very dark purple when it was on the middle shelf during the last couple hurricanes that hit the east coast.
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My railing planter was just moved to the bottom shelf for the cold evenings but seeing as I have echeveria and cacti that are doing well under these lights already I'm not too worried.
I was confused by etiolation at first. I looks like vigorous growth at first.
This bulb has done wonders for my light needy plants (I don't work for them, just a fan of their product)
I was the same way. I had no idea which to get, so I bought the blue/red light bars and they didn’t do anything for my plants. I ended up going with a full spectrum LED. My plants are thriving now.
SANSI 24W LED Plant Light Bulb... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BRKT56T?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
SANSI 15W LED Grow Light Bulb,... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KXBY2YH?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Yes but that's a higher end and overpriced light, with that money you're better off using a COB fixture, you can save a lot of money buying a roleadro 2nd gen and get good results, either their 300 or 600 depending on the area you're looking to cover. Here, and here if you want more quality.
Have you thought about getting a 2x2 tent? Running with a HLG 100 it should be very manageable and around 250-300 for the setup, mostly from amazon.
You could probably squeeze 2 plants in there although 1 would be more comfortable.
Fabric pots would help with root circling/small pots.
One thing to keep in mind is that smaller pots will need watering more often.
Topping, LST and scrogging would help keep the plant short.
here you go:
https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GLK600LS24-Digital-Dimmable/dp/B005ECZQTY/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1510944022&sr=8-6&keywords=HPS+600w&dpID=51oUcNAloTL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
First grow.
This took 2-3 months. Seems like I ran into a number of first-timer pitfalls along the way. Good learning experience though.
Can't wait. So god damn tired of shady, undependable hook ups.
Edit 2:
Photos of my setup.
Edit 1:
Some have asked about my setup. This is about everything. This is my first grow so take my suggestions with a cup of salt but this stuff has worked well for me.
Tent:
Zero complains. Very happy with this. It just fits perfectly into a closet (had to remove the hanger bar though).
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004U6WCMY
Air
Carbon filter:
The inside of my tent stinks. I smell absolutely nothing outside. Don't get caught. Get a good carbon filter. Maybe not this one, but something.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004FVJK60
Inline fan:
I hand this outside the tent. No need to take up any space or add any heat inside the tent.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002JQ14F8
Variable xformer for fan control:
This allows me to control the noise and airflow. Every other fan controller made the fan buzz. This thing is quality built. I keep it around 50v.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006NGI8VS
Circulation fans:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004RTMD8C
DWC
Bucket top net pots:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049XIIGC
Air pump:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002JPEVMC
Airline:
The black just prevents light from getting into my res.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001D4XTUU
Air stones:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0050HJ7Q6
Check valves:
You NEED these. Many airlines are thin enough that if the power goes out or a hose becomes disconnected, capillary action might permit water to back-flow into your electrical air pump and/or just flood your room. Don't take chances when a .50 cent valve will protect you. There are some horror stories in the aquarium hobby about this. Note, even if the air pump is higher than your res, capillary action can pull the water up through the air hose. This is the same principle that allows 100ft trees carry water from the roots to the canopy.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00977J508
Lighting
Lights:
Word of warning. Start off a good distance between the lights and your canopy. These product more light than you think and I have burned and cooked plants from keeping these too close. They don't product a ton of heat or anything. I think it's just too much light if they aren't a good foot or so away from the canopy. I assumed I could practically lay LEDs on top of my canopy. Not so.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FGFLCXS
Adjustable ropes for lights:
Chains work, these are just faster/easier to adjust.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0098R0600
Tools
Temp/humidity sensors:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013BKDO8
pH pen:
I used to do chemical reagent tests (I have tons of aquariums so I had it laying around). Never again. A pen is fucking awesome for dialing in pH every morning. Get one!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EQISYQO
Pruning snips:
These are great. Sharp as fuck and solid.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004SD76
Training wire:
What I use for my scrog screen and early training before the screen goes in. Also good for random shit that's temporary enough I don't want to waste a zip tie.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001EXJ652
Nutes/Water changes
Pond pump:
This is another must have! I've been using these for a while now to handle water changes in my aquariums. It's also awesome for mixing nutes before they go into your DWC. I drop one in a bucket without a hose attached and then just dump all my nutes and such in. The pump does all the mixing. Then I adjust the pH a little. Give the pump about 10-20 seconds to mix my pH up or down in and test again. I don't have to worry my pH adjustment isn't probably mixed yet. I makes the mixing process so easy and fast. I also use these to pump out my res once the scrog screen is in place.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006M6MSL0
Root protectant:
One of my early problems was with brown algae. This cleared it right up after a week.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IGFH3FG
Syringes:
No guess work. I know exactly how many ml I'm adding.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RB3CV6
Cal-mag:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000J2CUPW
pH control:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BNKWZY
Nutes:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000COBT54
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CO7U02
I had the same concern at first. These came with my light (MarsHydro 900w LED), but probably a cheaper knock off version. Worked great! I always held the beams the light hangers were secured to when i moved the lights up higher as they tended to flex. Since i was very paranoid i used paracord secured to the top side tent beams in case the light fell when i wasn't home. i can happily say i didn't need to do that since the light never fell, but small price to pay for peace of mind though. Hope that helps!
Doesn't make much sense tbh. You can buy a roleadro UFO for the same cost as these materials and get twice the wattage without having to buy a bunch of materials and construct a gizmo.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00RWYCRB2/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1_1_1?smid=A2L94QV6P0R9ON&psc=1
I think that the Mars 600 everyone was talking about was Mars I 600, whereas that product line seems discontinued officially, so that leaves Mars II options only.
see: Mars 600 amazon
Remove the rocks and anything glued. Get a (small) grow light on Amazon or wherever can find one (I leave mine on for 12 hrs. Keep in the warmest room in the house and lightly spray it with water once a day but watch for fungus.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074GR1KRT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_zppyCbS4P977K
The cheapest solution I can think of is to use a full spectrum SANSI grow light bulb and put it in a floor up lamp
example of floor lamp with glass shade
Just remember you want a lamp with a glass shade and not plastic as these LED's aren't really meant for this type of application so you don't want any heat/plastic issues. This means spending a little more on a lamp because plastic shade uplights are usually cheaper.
I use these Sansi bulbs for my plants in the wintertime. They are bright and the full spectrum light gives off a nice sunlight kind of feel to them which helps during the dreary winter months.
Grab one of the lamps and see if you like the light. You can always send it back.
Something like this [Roleadro 2nd Generation 600W LED Plant Grow Light Upgraded Full Spectrum Indoor Growing Light with 120pcs 5W Chips https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IVQ96MW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_ev.PAbNEHR0WD] should be more than enough light to veg and flower in the space you have available. Not the most efficient led light when compared to COB and QB lights, but it’s plenty bright.
another person recomended i went with this
My Setup:
*pH: Water going is phd to 6.5, runoff fluctuating between 5.8-6.4 recent waterings.
If I missed something let me know.
New Pic!
A full spectrum LED light is going to be your best balance of light quality, low heat, and light that doesn't look crazy weird.
LED Grow Light Bulb, TaoTronics Full Spectrum Grow Lights for Indoor Plants, Grow Lamp, Plant Lights for Hydroponics, Organic Soil ( 36W, All Wavelengths, FREE E26 Socket) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0748D2SMB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_LYQYAb1WEX1PK
With that said, one of these will be enough to nurture a juvenile plant along, but a mature plant will be straining for a little more then just one bulb can offer. This type of bulb should be used within a couple of inches of the foliage in a perfect world.
You have a lot of VERY tolerant plants. All of the snake plants, the rubber plant, prayer plant, and ZZ are fine where they are. Like the other commenter said, put the fig right at the window.
Don't get a lamp until some of the plants start proving that they need it. If you do need one, go with this bulb in a basic clamp light setup. This can be kind of an eyesore though.
If you could post a picture of the whole plant and describe the potting medium, estimated hours of direct and indirect sunlight, and your watering schedule, it would be really helpful for making constructive recommendations for this guy.
The usual base line requirements for these guys are lots of light, temperatures above 50 degrees Fahrenheit, and well draining potting soil. All three of these factors are indicative of these plants being native to Sub-Saharan Africa and the Arabian Peninsula. Enough sun means as much as you can give them, appropriate temperature means not letting the plant stay below 50 degrees for an extended period, and well-draining soil means adding amendments like perlite, pumice, or other small stone like bits. All of these factors combine to allow the plant to get enough but never too much water. Following these general guidelines will keep them from waffling in and out of dormancy (or worse, dying from either frost or root rot), and once you get a feel for what your plant needs, you'll both have a good time. Everybody has their own interpretation of these guidelines, and after a while, you'll be able to gauge the individual needs of your adenium by sight, touch, and other intuitive means.
Personally, I keep my adeniums in full sun for several hours a day from March until the end of October. I can get a way with this because I live in Florida. But, since we do get a handful of light frosts during the winter, I keep them in a makeshift greenhouse with growlights until the weather seems to have completely turned. My potting mix is a combination of humus, coco coir, pumices, and a variety of other bits of mineral substrate. Because my mix is mostly mineral, I fertilize using a product called dyna grow, using about half the regular dose every time I water, which is about once every 10 days. This works for me because of the climate here gets really hot in the summer, and despite being humid, the soil drys out pretty quickly. Like I said above, you'll get a feel for what works best in your environment, and for me, I usually let my plants decide when they need water by gently squeezing the caudex. If it is firm, I hold off on giving them water, and once it has a little give to it, I completely drench the pot.
To embark on your goal of making your adenium "bushier", you'll need to aggressively prune these two long branches down to the desired height. There are several helpful online guides for doing this without too much stress. Pruning will promote the growth of multiple new branches, and will cause caudex enlargement to speed up moderately. Owing to the fact that you're in zone 4b, I'd wait until late spring to do the pruning. After pruning, ease up on watering for about a week or two, and put it outside on days when the temp gets into the 60's. Be careful not to put the plant in direct sunlight for too long until it has adjusted to direct sunlight. To ease into this, start by leaving it somewhere with bright, indirect sunlight, and slowly move it into full sun for longer and longer periods each day. Since it probably won't get warm enough to set this guy outside full time until around June in your area, I'd suggest bringing it inside at night until summer really kicks off and the threat of chilly nights subsides. Alternatively, and what I personally would do in your climate, is buy a decent, but relatively inexpensive, grow light. I have have a lot of success with this light .
Be warned, adeniums are extremely dramatic plants, and often drop all their leaves for what may seem, to you, to be only slight disturbances. Such events include, temperature change, repotting, and sometimes for no reason at all. Don't panic, these are extremely resilient plants that, in a few years (maybe even less) will reward you with some of the most beautiful blossoms you've ever seen.
You're getting started on a really exciting relationship with this little guy, and I wish you the best of luck. If this leads you to the addiction most of us here suffer from, you'll soon want more plants. I have a ton of seedlings going right now, and if you decide you want to raise one, I'd gladly send one your way.
You want the best?
you got em
Grows my weed and succulents
the left one
the right one
As you can see, the left one is more yellow while the right one is more white. I was torn between the two and didn’t know which one would be better for the plants so I kept them both 😂
Here are some led options from Amazon that i use and like. These are white/sun-like instead of the ubiquitous blue/purple lights.
--This one's a panel-- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T28YHTY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
--This one's a gooseneck-- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FM4X64W?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
--A bulb i haven't tried but plan to buy next-- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NN6SVG6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_4p93Db3D0KKDZ
An Amazon search for led grow lights will turn up tons of great options. Read the reviews and go from there. Good luck!
As a vague generality, if you take a plant and put it under a light and give it water, it will grow, and with enough time, will produce -something-. Obviously, you think it takes a bit more, so that's why you're here. When it comes to indoor growing, there are many things that have to be taken into consideration because we are first removing all of the things a plant requires for survival then take it upon ourselves to be the one to provide it. To make these things apparent, we need to account for all of the things deprived to the plant by removing it from the outdoors:
The Law of the Minimum states that a natural system is only as strong as it's weakest input. The number of factors that can limit a plant's health are near limitless, but these above items need to be addressed to begin encroaching on the realm of 'happy, healthy plant'. The information below will be debated by some, but here's my stance: Growing indoors is an energy intensive activity, and the costs can get out of control quickly. My philosophy is that I want the biggest possible return on my investment of money, time, and energy, so I aim to produce the best possible product. Ambient airflow, air pressure, and humidity affect all aspects of growing; changing one, changes the other. For example, setting up a exhaust in the tent that can move air out at a rate higher than it flows in causes something referred to as a Vapor Pressure Deficit, in which the pressure of the air literally sucks moisture out of the air and restricts the plants natural "respiration" process, resulting in upward curled leaves on plants, and stunted growth (this is fixed by using a fan speed controller and using an appropriately sized fan for the space). You want all the air inside of a tent replaced every 5 minutes in order to cause no interference, but a plant can usually take significantly more pressure before showing signs of stress. Like temperature, this factor is unique to each type of plant, so YMMV. If you're not going for smell control however, a minimal amount of air flow will suffice. The less interference you have to introduce to a grow tent, the less variables that have to be accounted for. Generally, you want your humidity around 70% for leafy greens and herbs, and 40-50% for anything that bears vegetables or fruit. This isn't a panacea, but in your case it gets you to 'close enough' with the least consequences. Adding degrees of varying control will give you the ability to adjust your environment accordingly to meet these unique requirements.
There are many, many ways to measure light, and it can be as simple or as complicated an ordeal as you like. I like to break it down and compare the earth to the sun like we compare a grow tent's square footage to wattage of the grow light. That said, the sun produces 3.86 x 1026 watts of energy, or 380,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 watts. Most of that energy goes off into space, but about 1.74 x 1017 watts strikes the earth. (ie: 174,000,000,000,000,000, or 174 quadrillion watts). Broken down to the 197 million square feet that makes up the surface of the planet, approximately 100-130 watts of sunlight are needed per square foot of growing space in order to create an environment suitably similar to sunlight. In your environment, you need approximately 1,000 watts of light in order to get the same kind of results you'd see with old fashioned direct sunlight. It should be noted however that you can just as well get away with weaker lights (I use 600 watts in the same footprint dimmed to 450W with no major problems, and recommend the same here to avoid ventilation complications).
Now, what kind of light do you need? pre-tl;dr If you're operating on a tight budget, get an array of T5s and call it good. You can get away with just about anything, although anything in the 5500k spectrum for a T5, CFL or HID light will be perfectly suitable. For LED lights, don't trust the advertised wattage, and look at the actual wattage rating of the product to get a good ballpark estimate of what kind of experience you can expect with any given light (while manufacturers can fudge light spectrums on LEDs, they can't fudge true watts). Some lights have more abstract advantages over others (e.g. par levels, spectrum ranges, etc), but for simplicity's sake we'll not worry about those.
CFL lights are far and away one of the cheapest ways to get into indoor growing, and the lights produce very little heat, minimizing needs for ventilation. An added benefit of being a cool light is that plants can be extremely close to CFL bulbs without blanching the leaves, enablng a grower to create grow spaces in extremely confined areas. The downside is clutter and the requirement to construct a hood: You would need 20 50 watt CFL bulbs to match a single 1,000 watt HID bulb, and 20-bulb hoods that fit in a 2x4 footprint don't exist so far as I know). Plants grown on fluorescent lights tend to experience less dense growth than HID when grown using equivalent amounts of light wattage per square foot. Fluorescent lights are good for around 10,000 hours of use in growing. You can expect to pay around $75-$125 for a CFL array, and around 12 hours constructing the array itself.
T5 lights have all of the advantages of CFL, and fewer disadvantages (less clutter, no need to build a hood) at the exchange of increased cost (a bit higher than HID for the really nice arrays). You can expect to pay around $175 for a T5 fixture. T5 and CFL lights can be kept around 10-12" from plants.
HID lights are the industry standard, forming a balance between cost, output, and required infrastructure to support. The cost is comparable to T5 lights, but come with a number of distinct advantages. Science aside, an HID will produce denser, fuller plants through all stages of growth using the same wattage of T5s and CFLs and are produced with a significantly lower failure rate than many LED units. HIDs produce a LOT of residual heat, but this problem has long been accounted for with the advent of ventilated hoods. These hoods are designed to perfectly mate with HVAC components, allowing for cold air to be blown directly over the hot bulb, and none of that residual heat ever making it's way into the tent. HID lights are kept 12-16" from the plants
LED lights are the new kids in the block. Beginning with the trendy magenta glow, LED lights were designed to utilize specific spectrums of visible light and eliminate spectrums deemed 'harmful to plants'. We now know that to be farce, and nearly all of the highest end LED arrays are full spectrum COB (chip on board) arrays that can go into the thousands of dollars in price (or about the same as a T5 array, if you're savvy enough to build one yourself). There are a number of magenta lights that still exist, and they can be utilized to great effect (I've done a number of grows through flower on a Mars Hydro II light), however this information comes with a disclaimer: Many LED light manufacturers lie, and many LED light fixtures fail. While many manufacturers will list data sheets and cite numbers til they're red in the face, most LED lights are manufactured in China, and many more fail to meet the quality control standards of the original design. If you want a good comparison, consider the 'hoverboard' fiasco last Christmas, with thousands of knockoff boards catching fire across the world. Speaking of fire, the latest and most powerful LEDs produce a LOT of waste heat, enough so that a large part of many arrays include a number of heatsinks and fans to keep them cool. This bothers me, because instead of being able to pipe hot air away from the tent in a nice, single direction, the LED light is piping out hot air in every direction. I generally find my tents run around 10 degrees (fahrenheit) hotter when I run LED lights than HID. LED lights are kept 18-24" from the plants.
Assuming a non-defective unit, LED lights have an expected lifespan of 30,000-50,000 hours. A single LED light is worth the price of 3 HID bulbs. LED Lights offer even higher PAR levels than HID (often described a bit inaccurately by some as 'light penetration'), creating compact, bushier plants than HID lights using an equivalent wattage. LED makes sense if you're investing in this hobby for the long term, and want the most out of your money.
All of the above taken into account, and with your space, I recommend a 4 foot 450w T5 light, or 600W HPS HID light with a dimmable ballast and cool hood, dialed down to 450w to increase bulb lifespan.
I was wondering what the catch was. I was trying to find the product history.
OP, it's a Chinese special with razor thin margins (they have a different ballast in the photo). You can see on their webpage that the ballast is even different than the one shown on the Amazon link.
I'd go with this more efficient reflector if you do decide on this brand. The cool tube is a relatively inefficient reflector.
Looks like the seller has inconsistent pricing. edit: the seller buys for half this price
Same ballast, different label. Typical of Chinese imports.
That shipping price makes it too good to be true.
Ordered Via Amazon.
Overall, 3/5 stars. The hood weld seams, spot welds, are garbage and falling apart. Both inlets for the hood are bent and will need fixing. It will function and do it's job, but the package protection for shipping was underwhelming. Shipped by Psychedelic FrogFish Co in Walnut, CA.
I have a 4'x4' Aviditi tent, fan + filter combo, and some other stuff coming up for my next review. I will post pictures once it is all setup.
EDIT: Contacted the seller and he is shipping a new hood, free of charge, and didn't request the old hood back. He is legit.
two of these https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Mars600-Spectrum-Certificate-Hydroponic/dp/B00XC3LBIW
I'd suggest going with a different light setup but otherwise the other stuff looks good.
The light you picked will create a lot of heat and use a lot of power. The LED is lower power, lower temperature, and will give you more PAR (Photosynthetically Active Radiation) for the money.
Those 6 LEDs you are using aren't strong enough for what you're using them for :( Adding 6 more weak lights is only throwing good money after bad, sadly. If I were you I would try to sell the ones you have already and get fewer, but more powerful LEDs such as [this one] (https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Mars600-Spectrum-Certificate-Hydroponic/dp/B00XC3LBIW/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1485985374&sr=8-7&keywords=600W+led). That 600w LED is supposed to cover a 2.5x2.5 foot area during veg, less for bloom so the number you need will depend on how many plants you have in there.
VIVOSUN 48"x48"x80" Mylar... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01731MNJE?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
They sell kits with lights and vents included.
Start small. It'll save you money, let you get your feet wet, and help you learn how to grow better, and then you can buy bigger.
My "starter package" is:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SWGYYWO
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01I4NY8KW
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F8ZQYHA
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0098R0600
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Q2ER5C/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006NGI8VS
https://www.amazon.com/Smart-Pots-5-Gallon-Soft-Sided-Container/dp/B002JUOWB2
https://www.amazon.com/FoxFarm-FX14053-12-Quart-Organic-Potting/dp/B001I49Q98
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Garden-Treasures-15-31-in-Rust-Plastic-Plant-Saucer/50445000
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004PS4B08
So for about $420 (heh), you can get your foot in the door and start growing. This is a nice setup too, you can probably save $100 by shopping around, buying used, or doing-it-yourself. I've left off a few odds and ends like dryer duct, Fiskers for trimming, weed fabric pins for low-stress training, pitcher for watering, Mason jars for storage, but you can likely find those or suitable replacements around the house without spending money.
I also have a Raspberry Pi 3 ($43) with Sense Hat ($37) and metal case ($15) in each of my grow tents to log temperature/humidity and other things. I'm interested in eventually using the GPIO functionality to water my plants too. Not critical, but definitely a nice thing to have, especially if you're the hacker type. If you go this route, you might look at raspiviv.com too.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01C6FFNY4
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014HDG74S
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0722L338Q
I'm glad I bought a good intro setup because I still use it now that I've upgraded. I now have a 3' x 3' GG Shorty tent with HLG 300 LED for flower, a 2' x 2.5' GG Shorty tent with two 400W Roleadro COB's for veg, and my "intro package" is now my germination/cloning tent (and drying tent too since several people suggested that too). Being able to have three tents (germination -> veg -> flower) working simultaneously is increasing my output quite sharply. I'm doing this to help a relative with cancer, so you may not need to go quite as crazy as I did.
You mentioned using 35+ gs (~1.25 oz) a month. You probably aren't going to be able to grow that much given the constraints of tent size and light wattage (plus being a first-time grower! You'll learn a lot!). So once you get used to it, you'll probably want to buy more stuff. Marijuana isn't addictive, but growing marijuana absolutely is.
Once you've got your hardware, the variable cost is seed (~$10), soil (~$5), nutrients (~$20), and electricity (~$30). From that, I'm going to estimate you can grow ~1.5 ozs (you can do more as you learn more though). So you're looking at ~$40/oz after you've made the initial hardware investment.
Hope this helps. Depression, cancer, and everything else can just go suck it.
My light also came with the same kind of diagram, I have it about 12" away at 1070 "PAR" and everyone has very good stress coloring and are loving it. I wouldn't set up the light to be at that distance right away, however, since they won't be used to the light, I started out about 2 feet away and moved it closer every few days to get them used to it. I got these little rope hangers so it's easy to adjust the height.
Both of the lights you've linked will do super! You want at least 60w, since wattage will determine how close you have to put it to be effective (with 60w you'll want plants to be like 6inches away for it to be effective, less wattage and you basically have to have them touching), and then you'll look for full spectrum (6500k).
I have this light: https://www.amazon.com/VIPARSPECTRA-Reflector-Spectrum-Indoor-Plants/dp/B01B4GQ6MO
It's doing well covering a 2ftx2ft square shelf. I have about 20 plants under it and the next shelf down gets some trickle light because it's just a metal shelf and all my props are doing good under there.
You might want to look into a 250w there is a kit for 130$usd on Amazon
Edit: link link to 250w setup for $131 this is a great starter setup and will provide great lighting and includes most everything lighting related that you need. here is a 250w grow toutorial.
PS the yoyos are crap dont even try them. just buy the correct ones. yoyo's i dont have these cause i bought the expensive ones, but i hear these are good.
I actually didn't tally up the cost as that wasn't really of a concern to me, but I'll try my best to provide links to the things I bought for this. Feel free to add it up for me!
I also bought various tools, like crimpers, Dremel kit, drill, etc, but I don't consider those to be project-specific as I'll have them for the foreseeable future. Let me know if there's anything you see that you think I missed!
Don’t mind at all! I’ll just post the whole setup below:
Using these T5s: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AKKUBDQ?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
Using these LEDs: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074Y32PFZ?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
Using this outlet timer for 12 hours on/off: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MVF16JG?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
Using these for gnat control (it was pretty bad at the beginning): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O2KYORO?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
Anything like these will work real nice
It is a 2ft sunblaster.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AKKUBDQ
Save yourself a lot of hassle. Buy a cheap but reliable tent. Apollo makes great tents, cheap too.
t5 + racking
or ikea racking is ok too... with smaller 24 inch t5 maybe.
or even better, get a tent tent
I have a few, I started out with smaller feit LED bars (2ft) and after upgrading to a 4ft shelving unit I now have two 4ft t5 fluorescent units! I am finding it easier to get enough light out of the those, the LEDs need to be very close to the plants. The downside is that the t5 produces a lot of heat so need to make sure ventilation is good or it gets humid.
Here is the link to the t5 unit: https://www.amazon.com/4lamps-DL844s-Fluorescent-Hydroponic-Fixture/dp/B00HEYCRI8/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1478289944&sr=8-5&keywords=t5+grow+light
https://www.amazon.com/4lamps-DL844s-Fluorescent-Hydroponic-Fixture/dp/B00HEYCRI8 these lights are very bright, cheap compared to other lights. They are 250 watts and output more than enough light for your plants up to a max distance of 1 foot from the tip of your plant to the light. they cost around 75 bucks and are well worth the investment
My plants are inside from around now until Aprilish. I use a 48x18” shelf, 10/20 trays fit on it nicely. There is a cheap clip fan on the end of each shelf that runs 24/7, this is imperative. I have some of these lights and some of these lights– they work fine. They’re on timers for 12 hours or so. The LEDs are tricky because they’re too strong to put very close to the plants, oh well. I have another smaller shelf that’s basically the same set up for cuttings and seedlings.
Edit: fixed link maybe
Sure! It's pretty basic, actually. The table is a 4x2' stainless steel table from IKEA. Pretty cheap, but you could do cheaper, I just already had it. The heating pad is the same size (happy coincidence.) The cups are regular solo cups, most expensive element was the lights. You'll also want a timer, I use this one. And finally, the most ghetto part of the whole set up, the tent! I made it out of cardboard, tin foil and duct tape. Gotta save that paper.
This $40 ufo worked wonders for me
Make sure you get a high speed exhaust fan for ventilation and a low speed intake fan to stimulate trunk development
Use smart pots to hold the soil and plant - you should start in a small pot and graduate up to larger ones, but you can also just pop your seed into the big one. Be sure not to overwater.
Amazon brand power strip for 4 dollars
Buckets and reflective tape from Home Depot
you don't use heat lamps with tubs. you can put one on some sort of stand in the general viscinity of the tub to raise the room temperature of that area, but there's no practical way to use a lamp more directly on the tub.
the usual air hole placement is along the walls of the tub. how many you need will depend on a few factors, so it's best to start with a lower number and drill more if needed.
i have one of my BPs in a tub while she waits for her pvc cage. here is the only photo i have of the tub right now. the basic rundown is:
Two changes - folks always want a thermostat. This thermostat is the same as the HydroFarm stat /u/_ataraxia mentioned, and is a good low end/entry level stat. It's literally the same exact piece of hardware with a different label. Most of my enclosures are on Herpstat thermostats with proportional control. These are sort of the high end of stand-alone thermostats. Some people have also gone on the more computerized, high tech route. If that's interesting to you, it works great, but it's definitely not necessary.
On/off thermostats are actually not suitable for light bulbs, because the bulb will go on and off all the time, sort of strobing. It's fine for non-light emitting heat sources like ceramic heaters and radiant heat panels, although proportional are still more accurate.
I’ve been using these [seedling heating pads](VIVOSUN Durable Waterproof Seedling Heat Mat Warm Hydroponic Heating Pad 3'' x 20" for Kombucha Tea & Beer Brewing, Fermentation, Seedlings & Plant Germination https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073PTZCJ4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Lfn8AbDNHSQ89 ) with great success the last 4 months. I wrap them around my 1F jars
I use this [temperature controller with sensor](VIVOSUN Digital Seedling Heat Mat Thermostat Controller 68-108℉ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015F4VFGI?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf) to control them
>I've read that big enclosures for small noodles makes them feel unsafe
You can put a tiny snake in it's own mansion sized fine, as long as there is plenty of places to hide. Just think, are baby snakes stuck in 10 gallon tanks in the wild until they grow up? Snakes hate open spaces, not large ones.
I use aspen for my Western hognose. He loves it. It holds burrows really well, and I try to reset all his burrows every couple weeks or so to keep it interesting for him. I have mine in a 10 gallon tank since I have a male. I have about 6" of aspen in the tank.
Yes, a thermostat is absolutely needed. Heat pads can reach high levels, that would be dangerous for the snake. I use these for all my snakes. They work great and are cheap.
A western hognose was my first snake (now I have more). He's a bugger. He'll hiss and puff up inside his tank but once you get him out he's fine. He's gone off food for a few months at a time a couple times now, so he was definately stressful for a first snake (for me). It also didn't help that he loved to burrow (duh), and I'd worry about him since I couldn't see him. Good first snake IMO though, love the little guy and he has taught me a lot.
Best of luck and post pictures once you get them!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WJNVPZU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BOY6Y2I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015ZXUSX0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015F4VFGI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
⛺️: 4x4 is versatile as both veg and flower.
(https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01731MNJE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_W67KBbG041DK7).
💡: If you want to go new, reasonably priced and show results look at quantum boards (check out r/microgrowery for advice on which) (https://www.horticulturelightinggroup.ca). If not, 400w HID (either Kijiji or Amazon options) including Metal Halide for veg, HPS for flower, will work in that size tent, although you should shoot for 50w/square foot (true watts from the wall). Magnetic ballast is cheaper but more cumbersome, digital is more money but can be dimmed most of the time and switch back and forth from Veg/Flower easily.
Ventilation: 4” or 6” inline fan (for fresh air) ($40 Home Hardware, either one), and a 4” or 6”exhaust w/carbon filter on Amazon, depending on what size tent. Couple of clip on fans and an oscillating fan to circulate (might have to mess with the oscillating with space, or get a wall mount one $$)
Random rambling notes:
You can be as frugal or spend as much as you want with this hobby. I did the half and half approach with sourcing my lights on Kijiji ($50 for 400w hps and $25 for metal halide that I wired to remote ballast) with new tent, fans, medium, fertilizers, ph pen (don’t cheap out), and other accessories, and I could say the initial investment was just at about $1000.
I wish I went with a 4x4 to start for shape and heat dispersion (2x4 is fine for 400w in the winter, harder to control during summer and growing two plants into a rectangle can be a pruning job itself ), 2x4 is fine for 2 big girls comfortably, 3 is a crowd but possible. Or you could go SOG growing method and pack more in, but I like to make table top plants as much as possible. I know this grow is in Canada so go ahead and get 1 or 2 cheap humidifiers for vegging during winter (it’s coming :D), but you’ll have an easy time during flower to keep RH low for flower. Summertime you’ll have an easier time w an air conditioned apartment, it should keep the humidity in check as well. Also get a couple of thermometers for the tent, one maybe with an outside probe to keep outside the tent to check during lights out. Also, you’ll find aluminum tape handy to cover pinhole leaks from less expensive tents (Vivosun is affordable, they have great customer service that will compensate any flaws in their tent w pinhole light, or bite the bullet and get a Gorilla or Mammoth tent 💵 💰). Harvesting is another bag of shit to get, hit me up if you want that list.
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https://smile.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Hydroponic-Observation-Window-Growing/dp/B01731MNJE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502907954&sr=8-1&keywords=vivosun+4+by+4+tent
I own this tent as well, no complaints here.
I've coded these posts to upload automatically every week. hope you enjoy the timelapse!
Days from germination: 52
Seeds
Medium
Schedule
Nutrients
Grow Setup:
|Item|Link|Price|
|:--|:--|:--|
|grow tent| https://amzn.to/2oeJ92h |$110|
|inline fan| https://amzn.to/2p47iJb |$102|
|grow lights x 2 | https://amzn.to/2nBbdNn |$540|
|blurple light | https://amzn.to/2p3ZaII | $100|
|humidifier| https://amzn.to/2nBQzwC | $71|
|tower fan| https://amzn.to/2nBQzwC | $47|
|clip fans| https://amzn.to/2paof53 | $21|
|grow bags| https://amzn.to/2ontyNK | $13|
|coco coir x 2| https://amzn.to/2omfi80 | $50
some other items:
|Item|Link|Price|
|:--|:--|:--|
| humidity monitor| https://amzn.to/2p47fNy | $10|
| eye wear| https://amzn.to/2oloARE | $15|
| raspberry pi| https://amzn.to/2nrAvO5 | $50|
| webcam x 2| https://amzn.to/2og81H4 | $70|
| ph tester| https://amzn.to/2mJiA4R | $15|
All in all it's cost just under $1000 USD
Nutes: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B006XTQGLO?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
Few packages of these to hang lights and filter:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B010DD743O?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
Extension cords
Plenty of options
Lights
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01B4GQ6MO?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
Fabric pots:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00TF9E6XE?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
Air control
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01H1R0K68?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
Fans
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001R1RXUG/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Outlet timer:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XC7GTCN/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Tent https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01731MNJE/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Carbon filter
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01CJ5D4AG/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
4 inch duct
Can find anywhere
Jewelers loop (super important)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00K0BGNNC?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
To dry your buds
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01GXHQIKO?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
Surge protectors and ext cords
Find anywhere
Inline fans
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01M7S46YZ?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
Soil probe
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B017GQ9VVY/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
A few other things I got locally from grow shops. Quality seeds are important. Greenpointseeds.com is always having bomb sales, ship from Colorado, and are top quality. Soil from local grow shops but can also buy from online. I went cheaper on light, but I wouldn't do that again. Get good quality lights.
4 different ones.
lights
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C59J8L2
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IVQ96WW
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IVQ96MW
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015FLSOCE
fans
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D8ZC566
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I8Q30SC
clip fan
other stuffs
Frog soil
Smart pots - half 3 gallon half 5 gallon
Advanced nutrients nutrients
hygrometer: https://www.amazon.com/SensorPush-Wireless-Thermometer-Hygrometer-Android/dp/B01AEQ9X9I/
6 inch intake fan from home depot
filter: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008NYF8S4
filter fan: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CTM0JF2
strains
1 white widow
1 amnesia haze
2 money bush
2 jack herrer
Yeah I wasn't sure if one would be enough. I think they're only drawing 250 watts at the wall, so 500 total for the closet. Each panel is 120 5watt epiled LEDs which is how they can market it as "600w" but reality is the drivers are pretty weak. For the price point they seemed good enough at the time.
Yeah, exactly that. Here is the instructions for the stand. You may have to adjust the height of the side pieces depending where you want to the lights to clip. I spray painted mine and put Christmas lights on it because I like for things to be pretty, haha. My CFL lights are 1600 lumens if I remember correctly. I want to switch to LED soon.
Edit: these are the exact lights I have, it provides measurements for the reflector and clip so you can adjust your setup as needed. I'm sure Home Depot has something similar. Lastly, I put a bread tie around the clamp part of mine. The clamps are ridiculously strong, but it gives me piece of mind if one fails or gets bumped off the PVC that I won't burn my house down, haha.
I’ve had good results with these (the gold ones, the green ones aren’t as powerful). The top review goes into a ton of detail about their effectiveness.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0748D2SMB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_It3UBbJZSTSD4
Sure, https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Spectrum-Hydroponics-Organic-Wavelengths/dp/B0748D2SMB/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1538534159&sr=8-1-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Taotronics+grow+lights&psc=1
Thanks! For a lot of red plants co2, fertilizer, and high light will bring out their color a lot more and have them growing pretty fast. I have the 3 extra fixtures on my tank because I got two of those bulbs as gifts, and decided to get a third because I’ve found they do a lot for growth and color on my red plants. Also since this tank is pretty tall, I wanted to add a bit more light than what my beamswork light can do.
The beamswork lights are pretty good for planted tanks especially if you’re on a budget. I got the 36” full spectrum LED fixture for my 40 breeder for about $50 and it works great. If you want a lot of red plants I’d definitely go with a full spectrum WRGB LED fixture like this one. it’s the exact one I use. The one pictured in this post is a different one tho, it’s only got white and blue lights. You can check my previous post here to see what the full spectrum one would look like.
Here is a link to the pink bulbs as well.
I got a pair of cheap led light panels on Amazon. A blurple, and a white full spectrum. The blurple sucks and draws a lot of power. The full spectrum is just okay. I added two screw in Taotronics lights I had, and it made all the difference. Heat has also been a big issue for both panels. I've retired the blurple out of frustration with its poor quality.
When I started my garden, I could have gotten better lights, but I cheaped out. I regret that decision. You may be able to buy lights for half the price, but you will get what you pay for.
Fixed Taotronics light name. Added link to a similar light.
I added half a miracle grow plant food stick (6-12-6) and an LED light from Amazon (Lighting schedule is six hrs/day plus natural light from the east facing window)
The leaves are greener and the leaves that used to be yellow or now perkier with a bit more color. It’s only been 4 days since adding the light. My other plants have also benefited from the light.
Light:
Lovebay Timing Function Dual Head... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074GR1KRT?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
No I have one, wouldn’t recommend- it’s hard to get them close enough to actually give enough light without burning the plants. This one is better IMO https://www.amazon.com/Lovebay-Adjustable-Gooseneck-Hydroponics-Greenhouse/dp/B074GR1KRT/ref=pd_aw_lpo_86_lp_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=P0434TAXANH3A8A5GXCN
I'm using one of those goose neck red/blue ones. I don't think it'd be strong enough on it's own but since I'm using it as supplement to natural sunlight just for the winter (my plants are in a south facing window) it's been sufficient for my plants.
Edit: this is the exact light I'm using but again, I wouldn't recommend this a sole light source. There were a couple weeks where I had to move my plants away from the window due to the temperature and the light alone was not sufficient on its own.
I just got these after someone else on reddit linked that that was what they had. They came with screws, zip ties, and 3m stickies. I like them so far; but the purple light messes with my head.
I got these. My Perle von Nurnberg hasn't etiolated and my Black Knight is still black. My cacti (in the bottom left corner, with a dedicated light bar) still have their color too.
Edit: I use my PvN (Phaedra, my first leafy beastie) as my light gauge. If she puts up with the light she's getting, everyone else will survive. It's useful to have That One Plant around if you're concerned about lighting.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074Y32PFZ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Got them on amazon a few months ago. They’ve been great for low maintenance houseplants with consistent light schedules.
They look fine and are easy to stick to surfaces.
They’re relatively cheap and LED low energy cost.
The one I have I got from Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074Y32PFZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_BX9NDbKEQ92X1
It's around 40usd, but it has 4 light strips so it covers a lot of space :)
Well you obviously need those too, but for the plants...https://www.amazon.com/SANSI-Daylight-Spectrum-Sunlight-Greenhouse/dp/B07BRKG7X1/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=sansi+led+plant+light&qid=1564662754&s=gateway&sr=8-3
I also deal with SAD and the lights in my apartment play a huge role how I manage it during the winter.
For plants, look for bulbs that are between 4000-6000K. Kelvin (K) measures color temperature (how warm or cool a light color is). Daylight is roughly between 4500K-6500K.
You'll also want to pay attention to the lumens (lm). Lumens measures how bright/intense a light is. Look for something between 2000lm-4000lm. Lumens is measured closest to the bulb and the intensity of the light reduces drastically the further a plant is from the light source. Higher light plants will prefer being directly under the bulb while lower light plants can be further way (like 2-3ft away :p).
I've been using these. I saw in the reviews that people are successfully using these lights with cacti and succulents. They've been working well for my plants (monstera, cat palm, pilea, scindapsus, sanseverias, etc.) and I love how bright my plant corner is.
I bought this one from amazon.
SANSI 40W Daylight LED Plant Light Bulb Full Spectrum Ceramic LED Grow Light Blub, E26 Plant Bulb Sunlight White Grow Light for Indoor Garden Farming Greenhouse Grow Walls, UV&IR, 90-132V
https://www.amazon.com/SANSI-Daylight-Spectrum-Ceramic-Vegetative/dp/B07BRKG7X1/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1549175051&sr=8-7&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=sansi+led+bulb&dpPl=1&dpID=415mBFZJf-L&ref=plSrch
Extremely interested. I am preparing for my first winter here in colorado.
I am looking at the following
I'm using this lamp cord with this grow light and these smart outlets for my monstera. Granted its a new addition so I dont have time to say if it works but I dont see why it wont. I have it around 2-3 feet above its upper most leaves and fashioned a shade out of black paper my wife had (its VERY bright). The outlets let me set a timer or turn it on and off remotely for whatever reason.
Here it is just prior to harvest, showing the 3 buttercrunch plants, the lamp, and the 3 romaine ports covered with foil. I may have re-positioned the lamp a bit because I was trying to move things around in there, but that is how close it was. There is another light off to the right over my carrot "crop."
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Here it is in early April (first pic).
Buttercrunch on the right, Romaine on the left (I rotated the tote at some point). Color a bit washed out due to lamps. The little lettuce plant off to the right in dirt was sprouted the same day as the others and was watered with same nutes, just plainly not growing as fast as those in hydro. I still have it and it is still pretty sad.
Romaines were harvested twice before they started giving up. I removed them, covered up those 3 holes and let the buttercrunch have the whole thing for the last few weeks.
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Here is the tote.
Hope that covers everything!
Sorry, 24w, here's Amazon link
SANSI 24W LED Plant Light Bulb Full Spectrum LED Grow Light Plant Lights for Indoor Plants, E26 Grow Light https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BRKT56T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_dCvxDbJZ2G661
I have these light bulbs that are white and are full spectrum. I have it in a pretty hanging plug in pendant. SANSI 30W LED Plant Light Bulb Full... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BRKT56T?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
I have the above bulb but my Thai Constellation seems to respond better to the Sanis, I am starting to see new growth after switching to it. https://www.amazon.com/SANSI-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse-Houseplants/dp/B07BRKT56T/ref=pd_nav_hcs_rp_1/144-0843245-2944213?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07BRKT56T&pd_rd_r=5fce0d48-7daf-40c0-ab93-eadf4cb347e1&pd_rd_w=TherE&pd_rd_wg=wU4ur&pf_rd_p=daa7e66b-818b-4621-80ba-2a91681cf840&pf_rd_r=M7ZA62YV2A52J9Z63P3Q&psc=1&refRID=M7ZA62YV2A52J9Z63P3Q
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BRKT56T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_lSIXDbWQMJH71
This should handle the job. Just need a clamping portable light socket unit. One without a reflector. Start out a couple feet away and if it looks like you need to move it closer, do it in increments. I don't have any plants like you, I just like looking at what's all about them. I use
300 watt bulbs on echeveria's which are light hogs.
Oh I've got you covered!
I made a detailed comment a few months ago summarizing and reviewing all the LED grow lights I have used - many of which are white and won't mess with your decor (I too don't like the prospect of living in a Disco).
To summarize the post in case it is TLDR, here are my two favorite white-colored grow lights. Both of which I think could work well in your space.
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Here is my favorite bulb type light
And here is my favorite goose-neck style lamp(It could work well for your plants on the shelf)
Only 8.5k lumens for 114w. (The main chip is the cree cxa3070, the epistar leds are just gimicky "full spectrum" crap) An HLG 100 would be a way better choice. 16k lumens at 96 watts with a good spread.
https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-Quantum-Board/dp/B07C57J7XX/ref=sr_1_2?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1535847710&sr=1-2&keywords=hlg+100
This is the one my mom uses, bendy but gets hot so make sure it's away from hazards!
This is the one I use! I have two currently.
The more you spend, the better the light. The better the light, the better the plant. The better the plant, the more you yield. The more you yield, the more cost effective the operation is.
Cheapest option. Buy two:
https://www.amazon.com/ACKE-Germination-Seedling-Vegetative-Flowering/dp/B07GGX3R9T
Slightly better:
https://www.amazon.com/Lenofocus-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Vegetable-Flowering/dp/B07TV9GWPB
Best option within your price range:
https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-High-Efficiency-Upgraded/dp/B076QDKVDZ
This is the grow light (it’s alright not the best) and those are my baby rosettes in front, I’m actually not sure what either are honestly
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Not OP, but I just bought this one and I'm pretty happy with it.
Yes! They pretty much all fit any lamp that could feasibly fit a flood light, so most desk lamps will do the trick. I use IKEA Ranarp lamps because aesthetic and they aren’t too expensive and come in different sizes and colors. I also troll Facebook Marketplace for vintage lamps of a similar style, because again, aesthetic
As far as bulbs go, I’ve been using the standard GE grow lights that you can get just about anywhere that sells lightbulbs (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NN6SVG6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_QxujDb0276PFA). They’re a little too pink hued for my liking even though they claim to be full spectrum, so I’m trying out a Phillips bulb (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JBPYBNS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_bzujDbNBYPPT9), but I just got it so I can’t attest to whether or not it’s worth the extra ~$10. So far it looks way brighter and way whiter (no color hue that I can tell), so I’ve got it on a croton that hasn’t had new growth for a while so I think that will be a fair test, lol.
I hope this helps!
Thanks! This is the light I’m using.
GE Lighting 93101230 9-Watt BR30 LED Grow Light Bulb for Indoor Plants, Balanced Full Spectrum https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NN6SVG6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Yi2LDb7YVX9YM
I’ve only had my office garden for about 3 weeks (I have a bunch at home but this is my first work garden). So these plants are all straight from the grower.
At 8ft high, the light would do very little to help the plants achieve growth. Try to get a smaller lamp, preferably with a scissor arm and buy one of these. I have a 2' bird of paradise in my bedroom that has eastern facing windows and use that to supplement it later in the day when there isn't enough natural sunlight. Hope this helps.
Thanks so much! It's these ones: GE Lighting 93101230 9-Watt BR30 LED Grow Light Bulb for Indoor Plants, Balanced Full Spectrum https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NN6SVG6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_t3ELDbT351RM8
It looks like they are sold out at the moment but I got mine from Target at the same price (:
They have a more powerful one called PAR38, but the ones I got are already pretty bright so I think they are best so smaller spaces. Although it is worth mentioning that I got three of the BR30's because I put them in my existing fixture in the bathroom (:
Going to second this! I grow my monstera exclusively with grow lights and it currently has 6 new leafs coming in.
I use this one because it can go in any lamp but there's many options
https://www.amazon.com/GE-Lighting-93101230-Horticultural-Balanced/dp/B07NN6SVG6
I have two tents the same size as yours. I bought them at different times or else I would have just bought a 4x4
But, I have 2 of these in each tent. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IVQ96MW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ShdMDb68H8TPV
I started with just one but, I found 2 produced better coverage.
Giantex Indoor Grow Tent Room Reflective Mylar Hydroponic Non Toxic Clone Hut 6 Size (32''X32''X63'') https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PXK7ICK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_UhVuybY2C4CHS
Roleadro 2nd Generation 600W LED Plant Grow Light Upgraded Full Spectrum Indoor Growing Light with 120pcs 5W Chips https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IVQ96MW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_diVuybHJCV7XV
VIVOSUN 4 Inch 203 CFM Duct Inline Fan with Variable Speed Controller https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CTM0H6I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_BiVuybSGHVZTE
Century 24 Hour Heavy Duty Plug-in Mechanical Timer Grounded https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MVFF59S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_nkVuybNGBW6PS
MacDoDo PH-02 Digital PH Meter Tester Best For Water Aquarium Pool Hot Tub Hydroponics Wine - Push Button Calibration Resolution 0.01 / High Accuracy +/- 0.05 - Large LCD Display - 100% Guaranteed https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JOHTMEO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_MkVuybZ08V91M
VIVOSUN Pair of 1/8" Adjustable Grow Light Reflector Clip Hanger Rope Ratchet with Zinc Alloy Internal Gears 75lb Each https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00P7TZNPQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_nlVuyb1Q8670K
This is my setup, my fan is coming in today and my seedlings sprouted this morning. I did quite a bit of research and The light is a little underpowered but I was on a pretty tight budget and can always add more light later.
I spent $40 on seeds and super soil mix from Mephisto genetics, going a more organic route and won't require nutes.
I also spent about $30 on peat moss, perlite, and compost. I already had some ducting and pots.
I don't know about strips, but this is probably the 'cheapest' light that will be effective, it draws 250 watts. The spectrum is a little more red tilted, but with the window light as well that should be fine. My basil plants exploded under that light, although it wasn't bright enough for peppermint. (I'd recommend the 150w version but it's out of production(?)) https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Generation-Upgraded-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B01IVQ96MW/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1480962538&sr=8-2-fkmr0&keywords=roleadro+full+spectrum+300w
It’s a Roleadro 2nd Generation 600W LED
https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Generation-Upgraded-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B01IVQ96MW
I use these
multijoint desk clamp
clamp with aluminum reflector
LED 150watt equivalent 5000k daylight bulb
They’re game changers. Good luck
I use a Phillips Grow bulb and a clamp lamp, but that’s because I’m growing my mushrooms in the same room I’m growing my weed, and that room is locked down like Fort Knox against light.
But indirect sunlight should be just fine, my friends growing mushrooms in her craft room/office, and her tub’s only getting indirect sunlight and they’re doing fine. Bod even tells you that sunlight isn’t necessary, mushrooms just look weird apparently without any.
Bulbs and lamp. This is my set up and it's a game changer! You can use any old desk lamp lying around
I like 100watt daylight CFL bulbs that have a 5-6.5k spectrum (a 4 pack is like $12) And for clip-on housings I really like this style
light fixtures
Another question - this one about grow lights. It gets pretty cloudy here, sometimes for weeks at a time, and I figure I would rather prep and make sure my new plants are getting enough light now so when winter comes it won't be an issue (Illinois does not get much sunlight then). My windowsills are small, though, so I'd like to set up a rack in the corner of the kitchen with lights and expand a bit. It won't be a huge area though.
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I found these two grow lights and I'm not sure if one would be significantly better? The flexible one would be nice and more space efficient for me but would getting the bulb and a cheap desk lamp be better for the plants?
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https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-TT-CL013-Grow-Light-Black/dp/B07JVGLGTD/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0748D2SMB/ref=emc_b_5_i
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Thank you!
This one works well for me, but it is expensive compared to the version on US amazon.
Take them home and place a growing light on them during winter. If you have your own office or are the last one to leave, set a growing light on them for the night.
This is the one I use. It has 5 brightness settings and 3 timer modes.
Good luck.
Lovebay Timing Function Dual Head Grow Light 36LED 5 Dimmable Levels Grow Lamp Bulbs with Adjustable 360 Degree Gooseneck for Indoor Plants Hydroponics Greenhouse Gardening [2019 Upgraded] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074GR1KRT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_v0A7CbKWM812E
Thanks. I've been using this light that I got to give my fly traps some extra light at night. Too weak? I literally have no idea what I'm doing, my friend had an extra seed so I just planted it to see what happens. This morning I made a tunnel from tinfoil around it to direct some airflow and reflect more light, maybe they will help.
The big traps are pre-dormancy, but all those little ones are post-dormancy. (You can't see well in the pics, but from the other side there are TONS of tiny ones.) I got it last November, so it isn't fresh out of a nursery. From November to February, it lived on a windowsill in an uninsulated basement. Now, I spend all day moving it around the apartment to wherever the sun is. I also have this little baby grow light that I bought without knowing anything, and I'm aware that I definitely need to get better lighting. (Figuring that out is its own challenge!)
Currently, I live in an apartment in a big house and don't have the option to put it outside, but will once I move to a new place June 1. There, I'm hoping it can live outside in the backyard at least until autumn. It wasn't very smart of me to buy a carnivorous plant in Zone 6a, so now I'm just trying to do the best I can to take care of it!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074Y32PFZ/ref=sxr_rr_xsim_2?pf_rd_p=9ddc66f6-9fc0-49ff-b2fa-06a39d9859e6&pd_rd_wg=QyZmu&pf_rd_r=Z66RQEB6PXXYPJKX9GKT&pd_rd_i=B074Y32PFZ&pd_rd_w=6oMN2&pd_rd_r=6fd032df-4155-4f8a-b705-01ada6c352d2&ie=UTF8&qid=1549598614&sr=2
In my experience things grow a little slower under these than they do something like a t5 but at the same time none of my plants are etiolating either
Hey!
I’m using these off amazon: Grow Light Strip Kit 45W Including Power Supply, 4 pcs 16 Inches LED Grow Light Strips with Extension Cables, Mounting Accessories for Greenhouse,Grow Shelf; Easy Installation-(4-Strip-Kit) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074Y32PFZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_R-0NDbJ9D6XZB
They’re awesome totally recommend them. You can break them up since they come in 4 pieces and you connect them view cables, I have them on a timer.
I was able to rig them up under that three tiered stand with zip ties. The lights don’t get too hot and my orchids have been loving them.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074Y32PFZ
Out of stock now, but it's just a cheap kit that let me be pretty flexible with how things are set up. Only $40 at the time of purchase. I zip-tied them to the underside of a dish rack.
At around that price (maybe a little more) I really like these.
https://www.amazon.com/d/Grow-Light-Fixtures/Including-Extendable-Greenhouse-Installation-4-Strip-Kit/B074Y32PFZ/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1543410352&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=litever+grow+light&dpPl=1&dpID=51jwhBnvSFL&ref=plSrch
They don’t put out a ton of heat, which is good because you really want your plants pretty close to them. I have six sets and they work pretty well. Good luck!
I use these grow lights from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074Y32PFZ/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
For $43 you get a total of 64" of light bar. And the LED lights have a spectrum specifically for growing vegetables/herbs.
I got mine from Amazon. Link attached here below. I have heard that the LED lights are not as powerful as their Florescent counterparts but these work well for my set-up!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B074Y32PFZ/ref=zg_bs_14252961_14?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=KPBKM7WVJSZKYS9CHM5S
I have been growing a bunch of different plants at my cubicle desk at work - which means nowhere near enough sunlight even for a spider plant - and that includes quite a few cottonwood seedlings who are all doing very well.
I use an LED grow light at home and and the office desk that does a lot for plants.
>Bulb: https://www.amazon.com/SANSI-Daylight-Spectrum-Sunlight-Greenhouse/dp/B07BRKG7X1/
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>Lamp: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HX2EVPS/
It is a full spectrum light that is in the same range as natural sunlight. It has been perfect for me, every plant I have put under it has started putting out new growth almost right away and bends toward it just like they do with the sun. (Which is how I am getting interesting curves in my seedlings.)
You do need to keep the lamp about 16 to 18 inches from the plant to get the full amount of light for it though, but it will not put off any amount of heat worth worrying about.
If anyone would like to chime in, this is the grow light I’ve been using.
It gets full morning sun for about three-four hours and then I move it into a spare room and it stays under that.
For a very wide palm, I'd use 2 grow lights, each angled at it from above. However, if you hang a strong enough light up to 24" directly above, it should still benefit. The lower fronds would naturally receive dappled light anyway. I'd monitor it for etiolation, then maybe decide if I want 2 lights instead.
It's true that the bulbs must be quite close to the plants. 24" is as far as I would go. LED lights can be a bit farther away than fluorescent. I use 40 watt LED grow lights to supplement sunlight. Even my plants that sit over 24" away appear to benefit. The closest plants grow the best, though. My lights are in a clamp light and a normal lamp.
I use this one, as I prefer white light:
https://www.amazon.com/SANSI-Daylight-Spectrum-Sunlight-Greenhouse/dp/B07BRKG7X1/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=31BY0GSV495O8&keywords=sansi+grow+light&qid=1556076681&s=gateway&sprefix=sansi+grow&sr=8-3
Edited to add: light reflection makes a huge difference. A silver or white reflector would reduce wasted light. My clamp light reflects the light with its aluminum shade. My lamp has a white shade interior.
These are the grow lights, I don't think I can post another photo into a reddit post - but I may just not know how. These days the plants are entirely inside, in my garage, with no natural lights.
>https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07BRKG7X1/ref=psdcmw\_14252951\_t2\_B07KXBY2YH
Thanks! This might be what I've been looking for! I have a few lamps without shades, so this may work. Thank You!
I diluted the fertilizer quite a bit, and used a quarter scoop for 24 oz of water. I found this grow light in another Reddit thread after I had some major problems with my old ones.
This started as a cutting from a larger plant that I let root in water before I planted it, if that helps!
For large scale, shelving grow light set ups, I like the Durolux Led https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079GJ11ZC/ref=pe_2640190_232748420_TE_item but an LED bulb like this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BRKT56T/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 with an aluminum clamp lamp reflector is nice and adjustable for smaller (and cheaper!) setups.
You can also do yourselves a favor by picking varieties that tolerate low-light light like Crassula, Haworthia, and Gasteria: https://mountaincrestgardens.com/indoor-succulents/
Such a sweet idea. Good luck!
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Sansi makes the best grow lights, they’re LEDs so they use very little power, don’t generate a lot of heat, and can be used in any fixture standard fixture. You can get them in 10W, 15W, 24W, 30W, 40W and so on, they even make some huge square ones, I use a 70W for a tree I’m overwintering.
SANSI 24W LED Plant Light Bulb Full Spectrum LED Grow Light Plant Lights for Indoor Plants, E26 Grow Light Bulb for Hydroponics Greenhouse Houseplants Vegetable Tobacco, Sunlight White UV IR https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BRKT56T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_gF1YDb3D1WME8
Absolutely, I think it would really do some good for them! I recently got my grow lights for my winter / fall set-up and they've been working wonders. I've gotten 2 happy blooms in response and tons of compact growth and sun stress.
I've been using these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RTVD1HJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 They're bright white like natural light and very strong and effective. They can be pretty close to your plants and not scorch them, and produce a moderately warm heat (it never gets to be too much from being on 16 hours) which I've found helps protect them from getting too cold since I keep my apartment kind of chilly!
I've also seen a cheaper option, used as a single lamp bulb by a reddit user in r/haworthia here. It's a lower price point and I nearly got it for a starter grow light. If you're wary of spending too much, I'd recommend this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BRKT56T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_4VprDbKA7T01X they've said a lot of good things about it!
I use a 30W SANSI Grow Light for my succulents and a 15W bulb for tropical plants on a different shelf. They fit into a standard lamp socket. The light is very bright and white, which I prefer. It was pricey but my plants are doing a lot better since I started using these bulbs a month ago.
Sure, I got the 24W. Sansi also sells them via their website. You should figure out your requirements before buying, they have a variety of wattages.
A 200W metal halide equivalent Horticulture Lighting Group Quantum Board might be worth a look.
two of these combos or however you want to do it.
https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-4000K/dp/B076QDKVDZ
https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-USA-Quantum/dp/B07C57J7XX/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?keywords=horticul+lighting+group&qid=1559225906&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmr1
Also, you could look into DIY LED lights to save some cost. Ledgardener.com has good info.
This isn't bad. The price is pretty reasonable, and it will do fairly well in a smaller area.
Hey, I'm not OP, but thanks for the link I haven't seen these lights before.
Would you or anyone have input on an alternative cob light meant for plants that has similar properties and a substantially lower price? I have been thinking about getting a set of these for my photos. $450 for 3 vs $700 for 3. No mount for a tripod or stand, but I was thinking about using the 4 corner holes to attach some small bars or cable-wire for 4-way adjustment.
HLG 100 V2 4000K Horticulture Lighting Group Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C57J7XX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_DOjXCb9VVADJE
Here’s the link:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GGX3R9T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_UvcJJIwRc5cwY
It comes with a hook so that you can hang it over your plants, but I liked the flat look against my shelves. I just used heavy duty command strips as it’s very lightweight, but we’ll see how they hold up!
Thanks! I got it on Amazon
ACKE LED Grow Light
I’m using this one. It was super easy to set up, but the thing is on the flimsy side and as you can see in the pictures, it’s really the bare minimum. No casing or anything. But it doesn’t get too hot and because it’s so minimal, it fits flat on the underside of the shelf so you don’t see it unless you’re sitting on the ground. Like I said in another comment, all this gear is super new so I can’t give any solid recommendation other than that I’ve had a good experience so far!
Right? I really dislike the idea of a purple light in my kitchen. ACKE LED Grow Light for Indoor... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GGX3R9T?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Sorry, I don’t know much about the strips and shelves - though I do use some on my reef tank macroalgae reactor (clear tube with led strips wrapped around) seems to work well and puts up with occasional salt water with out electrocuting me or fish. I don’t know how to fix them onto shelves tho.
I use these one on my plant shelves and added one of these just so it wasn’t bright red. You can see my shelves in my last post. They’re super low profile. But my shelves are wire mesh which allowed me to easily tie them to the underside.
I have purchased 3 of these and although I have no long term results they are working quite well for the price. My lettuce likes it. There is a slight pink hue but not as much as other led grow lights imo.
Hopefully Amazon links are ok:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GGX3R9T
Top tier has 2x Relassy 45W LED Grow Lights Goosenecks.
Bottom tier has 2x ACKE 20W Warm White LED Grow Light Panels.
Pardon my butt-in, I just got 2 of these for a tiny Serissa bonsai, will that not do anything? Is there a non-hanging better alternative? Thanks so much.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07LG39B3M/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Are these bulbs better? https://www.amazon.com/SANSI-Daylight-Spectrum-Sunlight-Greenhouse/dp/B07P61K86G/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=sansi+grow+light&qid=1561981919&s=gateway&smid=A3HAQJT15PL4NZ&sprefix=sansi&sr=8-4
I recently picked up a few of these and absolutely love them: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07LG39B3M
Not hawking them, but not having to live with a purple glow all the time has been awesome, and my plants love it at least as much as the red/blues. I know a lot of people use them, but this little greenhouse / LED combo has been amazing as well: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FZTKYXV
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07LG39B3M/ref=psdcmw_14252941_t1_B07T1YG8BX
Here's one that's identical to the one I purchased but from a different vendor.
So I bought this strip for my office at work, it's been there for a little over a week now. Plants seem to be happy. The red & blue can be hard to made to look intentional though, but if you do it right it can look nice. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DK6M6X6?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
And then this bulb I put in the lamp on my desk, and the philodendron sitting under it is thriving. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NN6SVG6?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
What I haven't been able to find is like a set of string lights much like the G40s you have there, but made for plant growth. I'm wondering if I should patent the idea lol
you know ... i have the same problem, although i don't like the typical red purple ones. checking a youtuber (summer rayne) i fell in love with the GE ones.
https://www.amazon.com/GE-Lighting-93101230-Balanced-Spectrum/dp/B07NN6SVG6/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=general+electric+growing+light&qid=1569920167&s=gateway&sr=8-2
very high quality, and I kinda thought about the price as well but then put it into perspective. A 600w grow kit cost less than the two 300w leds which are actually around 180 true watts. two of them in my 36x36x78 is wonderful, not great but sufficient. one 300w led in my tent would not be enough though, I need two so it makes sense they're not very expensive yet beautiful quality. I would only worry that the delivery service handles them with care. I was lucky and both arrived in perfect condition from UPS.
You amurrica eh? This was on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005ECZQTY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_jCNGzbKHZ98YS
Let me try to help you figure this out. These will give off quite a bit of heat (which is great for winter northerners) but summer can get pretty hot. You will want to seal off the room somehow as well, like the other comments said, fuck bugs! This can be hung maximum 1.5 feet before you burn the plant so you might be ok with some training.
600 watt will cover about 4 x 4 foot area so squish each plant in that space roughly and bunch all the branches up like roses, this will give a good lollipop shape and save space but at the same time maximize the light of the main colas. I just hope you have enough headroom for flower stretch!
Hopefully you have some fans laying around to simulate a gentle breeze and help temp control. I try to be as crafty as possible before spending a ton of money, (the light was an exception). Use what you have around the house or go to dollar stores for like white paint sheets to create your own tent for cheap, until you can invest more.
Goodluck, hopefully this ramble is useful to you!
I have this light.
So I can just shove it in the corner of a dark room with some panda plastic and it will be fine for the veg stage? Is it crazy/stupid to be thinking about closing off the corners with some cardboard/plywood or something? So it's like a little square area, top open, that the light will hang over?
My LED has the same connections and I ended up not using the connectors it came with at all and got 4 of these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0098R0600/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_56PPybPHJ6F4D
Connected them from the tent top bars and directly to the hooks on the lights. Can basically raise it right up to about 1-2 inches from the ceiling.
First off, i'm simply recommending them, the stuff you got works but theyre a bit over priced so i'm going to recommend a few cheaper stuff.
You can get away with a 4'' fan/filter/duct with the grow space tent you provided. heres a recommended one.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Q2ER5C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Your tent and led is fine
Ph up and ph down is fine as well, i recommend getting a digital ph and ppm meter combo on amazon, doesnt matter if theyre cheap, they'll work.
As for your timer, i highly recommend this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042I5FF6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
That timer will give you the ability to upgrade to two led if you want too in the future.
Don't forget hangers for the lights.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0098R0600/ref=twister_B00FL6MTJI?_encoding=UTF8&th=1
Everythign else seems fine.
You can keep the light that far away from the plants throughout. You can also play with the height. Get those ratchet light hangers. They are adjustable. Like These
The 300w does not really cover much space. For reference in my tent I am growing 2 plants right now. I used only the 300w for veg and just let them veg longer to make up for the lack of light. No problems for me there. As for flower you'd want more than one if you are doing more than one plant. In my tent, as I said, I have two going right now. I have a 250w HPS that's over one plant and the 300w is over the other.
To summarize, the 300w will be perfect for one plant throughout the entire veg/flower cycle. The 300w will be adequate to veg 2 plants but not enough to flower. Maybe with your cfls and the new ones you are adding plus the 300w you should be good for 2 plants.
Awesome to hear! Yeah I scoured the net too and tried a few designs before deciding on this one. It's just a simple PVC frame I hung from the top of the tent using adjustable light ropes.
Here's the materials with some example links and short instructions. I was sort of winging it at the time I built.... so let me know if you have any more questions and I can take some closer pictures of the screen or something. :)
 
Materials |
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| 1" Schedule 40 PVC pipe - Frame edges. |
| 1" Schedule 40 PVC 90 degree elbow. |
| 3/4" Truss-Head Screws |
| White Twisted Mason's String Line |
| Light Rope Hangers |
 
| Short Instructions |
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| 1)) Measure out Length x Width you'll need for frame pieces. (accounting for the inch or two that gets added by the elbows when they're on) |
| 2)) Cut 4 pieces of pipe to desired length and fit them together using the 90 degree elbows. I used a rubber mallet to make sure they were seated all the way into the elbows. |
| 3)) Once the frame is assembled, you may have to twist it a little to make sure it's completely flat. My first attempt was a little tweaked by having an elbow rotated slightly. I just twisted the frame a bit to fix it and made sure it laid on the ground completely flat. |
| 4)) Grab a ruler and start marking out the spots where you'll drill for the screws. I start at the elbow and make a mark every 2". Continue this all the way around. You'll want to make sure the holes lineup perfectly even with the holes directly across. Just for a visual aid, If the screen is leaning up against a wall - you'll want to mark the top & bottom edges first, then the left and right sides. This way you make sure you don't accidentally end up with any angled or diagonal strings going across when it's done. ;) |
| 5)) Drill the pilot holes in the side of the pipe you marked previously. I drill all the way through the pipe wall and stop when it hits the opposite wall. |
| 6)) Screw in the truss-head screws about 75% of the way. Just enough to make them secure but also leave enough room to wrap the Mason's String around. |
| 7)) Once all the screws are in, I pick one corner as a starting spot and I tie up the string there and bring it across to the matching screw. From there it's just a time consuming game of rounding the screw next to it, bringing it across, rounding the next screw, bringing it back across, so on and so forth. Whatever weaving technique you want to use here is fine. |
| 8)) Hang the completed screen at the desired height by attaching the adjustable light rope hangers and you're good to go! I threw some zip ties around the elbows and clipped the rope hangers to those. |
4x4x7 Grow Tent There you go. I use this same tent but in a 3x3. It's not the best grow tent, but I don't have light leak issues, and it seems to be holding up pretty well.
I used this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H9O6UJ0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Worked really well for me so far! Can't comment on lifespan yet.
The kratky method is a great beginners method to get into hydroponics. I currently have about 30 plants all doing the kratky.
General Hydroponics is a good brand and mix of nutrients. Its simple to use and doesnt require a scale to mesure stuff out. Use a tablespoon to measure stuff or a syringe.
Buy the PH up/down from GH too but be warned you will need to dilute it first or youre in for a fun time trying to correct your PH. (let me know when you get to this step and I can give better directions.
Get a simple PH tester. It will make your life a lot easier. Once I figured out that adding nutrients to my water brought my PH to around 5.9 I stopped testing everytime. (but i recommend that you do use it everytime)
You DO NOT need to grow in soil first, but like /u/BroposkisRump said you can just be careful washing off the roots. GOTO the youtube channels mentioned on check out Khang Starr's video first.
Some advice:
You cangrow those with no effort.
Thats all I got for now. Once you understand this method try hydroponics using a different method as well.
These are the ones I currently have for my 4x4 that work well https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HEYCRI8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1.
Within the next month i think i'll be binging on these https://www.amazon.com/HydroplanetTM-Fluorescent-Included-Horticulture-Gardening/dp/B019J3UPUS/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1487146972&sr=1-1&keywords=t5
I just recently brought all of my plants in for winter and upgraded my light setup to 4 T5 fluorescent bulbs at 6500 kelvins. Does this look like an appropriate height to keep it above the plants? The jade is about 3 inches from the bulbs so I'm a little worried about damage. I've been thinking about moving the jade to another window and just lowering lights closer to the rest of the plants. Also any advice on how long to keep them under lighting every day would be useful!
https://i.imgur.com/C8Vt1YJ.jpg
Just in case anyone was curious where I got this setup. It feels very sturdy and I'm definitely glad I bought it. I'd just recommend buying longer chains to hang it since the ones they provide are pretty short.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HEYCRI8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I'm growing plants on a table using the following grow light from Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HEYCRI8
I bought $16 worth of 1" PVC to build the stand for it. (Shout out to Jeb Gardner for the stand)
Here's a picture of that light mounted on the stand.
https://i.imgur.com/HZ5Bgkv.jpg
It's actually my bedroom. I'm limited on Space and it's hard to strike a balance between bedroom and jungle lab so I've mostly given up and you can see which way it's gone. ..
As for the lights I can tell you which ones I've been getting but I don't feel like I have used them long enough to actually recommend them. If that makes sense. They were 75 for the 4' 4 bulb model.
I also use screw in led bulbs in places and led clip lamps in others. There are also finex led 24/7 aquarium lights.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HEYCRI8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I hate mirrors but I've started putting them behind plants to bounce more light. The inexpensive sort of generic full length mirrors go well on the back of 4' shelves. Dollar stores seem to frequently sell small plain mirrors to go behind individual plants.
Fwiw I'm also loving this humidifier https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M4O49V9/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 the plants are happier and the mammals including humans breathe better with it. I'm a big fan of humidifiers in general though. Years ago I got tired of low humidity. It's such a small investment compared to the financial cost of losing plants. Plus the frustration and sadness of unhealthy ones...
Last watering was 2 days ago, soil is dry now. Was holding off just in case it was over watered. Current temp is 79F w/ 35% humidity. It's hard to get it to go past that humidity.
Had it about 6" away from 138W Roleadro and it was doing great. Dropped it down to about 10" away after drooping.
I’ve been using this light. Thanks! It’s been a fun lil journey so far
By the time you buy two sets of bulbs and a fixture, you could get something like this for about the same price:
Roleadro UFO 138W LED Grow Light for Home Grower https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RWYCRB2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_6k8pzbMNB837P
Got 40 bucks?
https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-138W-Grow-Light-Grower/dp/B00RWYCRB2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482617180&sr=8-1&keywords=LED+light+UFO
I had a look on Amazon.com and the "Amazon choice" one at $49.99 would be sufficient for 1 plant in enclosed conditions like a spacebucket.
https://www.amazon.com/Rolledro-Lights-Indoor-Spectrum-Hydroponics/dp/B00RWYCRB2
Then you will want to get a 5630 led strip for side lighting. Like this:
https://www.amazon.com/LEDMO-Flexible-Daylight-Waterproof-brightness/dp/B01339G2F6
Although I wouud recommend searching on Amazon for "5630 led strip" and looking for one that is both waterproof, adhesive backed and has a usb connector for easy installation. The one I linked is just the LED strip on its own.
Maybe two or even three of these:
https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-138W-Grow-Light-Grower/dp/B00RWYCRB2/ref=sr_1_49?ie=UTF8&qid=1479628021&sr=8-49&keywords=led+grow+light
at 55 true watts times 2 (or 3), you'd get decent coverage without blasting your plant with too much light.
This is the LED that I used: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RWYCRB2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Using a UFO LED is pretty great for a spacebucket since it fits well in the cover, and they're not too expensive. I would use this with the blackout guide that is stickied.
I am using a 138w UFO in my first grow. The plants are doing nice, I am sure more watt would be good but it suits its purpose of being a cheap intro.
UFO
Strip Light
I would say this intensity is suitable for seedling. The strip lights are between 0.1 inch and 5 inches from the leaves and the UFO is about 7 inches from the canopy right now and its fine.
I will be buying stuff for a second bucket and refining my technique and I will opt for a brighter UFO, thinking whether I should reorder the LED strip or not though as it seems like its good.
Are you including the Mars Reflector 96 or the Mars I "600W" in that? I've got them but they didn't seem to make it into the frame for either of these two pictures. Thanks for the feedback either way!
Okay, look for a thermostat . This will control the temp and it’s very, very easy to use. Please, this is very important. You can cause severe burns and even kill the gecko. I would try to find a dimming thermostat. I know it’s an investment but it is 100% necessary.
You can get a heat mat like this one - they're often sold for germination trays but many plants love them. Strongly recommend picking up a thermostat to go with it so you can better control the temp.
My first thought is a Reptile heater or Plant Heating Mats. Then you need a Thermostat Controller
When I bought this it was $17: the digital heat sensors
https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Digital-Seedling-Thermostat-Controller/dp/B015F4VFGI/ref=pd_bxgy_86_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B015F4VFGI&pd_rd_r=1HCKJXJJBBV0NW2W1AYK&pd_rd_w=fJNYN&pd_rd_wg=iKA5l&psc=1&refRID=1HCKJXJJBBV0NW2W1AYK
Here is the heat pad, it is always on full blast (you put it under the tray and the heat goes up, and put the heat sensor at the top so when the thing is fully heated, it turns off) :
https://www.amazon.com/Plant-Babies-Heating-Waterproof-Seedling/dp/B013HFKRMK/ref=pd_sim_86_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B013HFKRMK&pd_rd_r=1HCKJXJJBBV0NW2W1AYK&pd_rd_w=152tJ&pd_rd_wg=iKA5l&psc=1&refRID=1HCKJXJJBBV0NW2W1AYK
Or you can use this programmable controller the head:
https://www.amazon.com/bayite-Fahrenheit-Digital-Temperature-Controller/dp/B011VGASLW/ref=sr_1_5?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1481436370&sr=1-5&keywords=digital+heat+switch
But you have to do some wiring (outlet cord, and wire an outlet) and you have to read up on how to program it
I use the programmable timer for Quail and the timer above in the first link for grow trays/starts. Either combination should work. Can you post pictures of your worm farm? Thanks
Hi,
Caveats to below:
Interesting you bring up glass...I used a Walmart 2 gallon glass jar for months (no problems with mold due to use of grow mat with thermostat...at least this is why I think I did not have mold) and decided I like continuous brew (had this going in a 2.5 gall glass lemonade dispenser seperately) So I went to kombucha Kamp to see what they were selling for continuous brew...NO glass...they had porcelain, 304+stainless and one other material if I recall correctly, but no glass. This made me really start to wonder....why???...why are the kombucha experts not selling glass. I knew about glass possibly containing lead (no relationship to your original post...I think)...but this fact alone...that kombucha Kamp was not selling glass for their kombucha continuous brew made me retire all my glass when I switched over to continuous brew. I decided on porcelain...and found 2.5 gal continuous brew setups for very cheap online.
In my opinion the biggest reason for mold is temps too cold...glass, without insulation looses heat quickly....especially in winter.
My setup: Brew Container: https://foryourwater.com/collections/water-dispenser-crocks/products/solid-black-crock-dispenser-porcelain-silver-faucet-fyw-cksblk?variant=5588511457311
Germination mat: VIVOSUN Durable Waterproof Seedling Heat Mat Warm Hydroponic Heating Pad 3'' x 20" for Kombucha Tea & Beer Brewing, Fermentation, Seedlings & Plant Germination https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073PTZCJ4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_taa_Y0QMCbVKHEB93
Thermostat: VIVOSUN Digital Seedling Heat Mat Thermostat Controller 68-108℉ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015F4VFGI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_taa_81QMCb2K5YSWK
Stainless steel dispenser: Oak Leaf Replacement Spigot for Beverage Dispenser,Water Dispenser Faucet, Stainless Steel Spigot for Drink Dispenser, Food Grade, 2-Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JZ6KJQJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_taa_T2QMCbJTK12ED
And insulation in colder weather...Reflectix for inner and outer layer and middle layer of thick insulating fabric...velcro to hold it all together....insulation saves money in cold weather....cutout where the spigot is.
Place germination mat wrapped around upper part of brewing container.
Hope this post is not too long.
Might create secondary market
https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Hydroponic-Observation-Window-Growing/dp/B01731MNJE/ref=sr_1_5?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1518892184&sr=1-5&keywords=grow+tent
http://grobo.io
https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Hydroponic-Observation-Window-Growing/dp/B01731MNJE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1549018765&sr=8-3&keywords=4x4+tent A 4x4 is your standard size.
It depends on the size pot. You can get 6-1 gallon pots in their easy. 6 -5 gallon pots is pushing it.
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6 inch fan and filter kit. If you get bigger tent. Great you got a fan that works. You can always get the 4 inch version
https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Air-Filtration-Kit-Controller/dp/B01NA07G79/ref=pd_rhf_dp_s_zg_dy_0_1/143-7349115-2913520?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B06XFRNPR8&pd_rd_r=47a007ed-9d8e-4121-b854-6d1e70ce79f7&pd_rd_w=WapH9&pd_rd_wg=7MaPN&pf_rd_p=4022e0f2-c06e-4e9e-bb48-d7486d1197f7&pf_rd_r=SP1Z1FSN019N7KNHMVF2&refRID=SP1Z1FSN019N7KNHMVF2&th=1
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Quantum boards are the in thing right now. But there several other excellent LED companies.
Depending on your budget.
https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/
https://opticledgrowlights.com/
https://spectrumkingled.com/
https://www.rapidled.com
https://www.rapidled.com
https://chilledgrowlights.com/
Small tent, good quality, minor light leak on the zipper. No longer available but posted it to give feedback on cheap tents vs the 100$+ ones. Personally I think they all come from the same place.
 
Considering moving up to this one, more space and a toolholder/CF straps
Yeah, that looks like it's still in veg to me. Have you thought about investing in a tent? They really aren't that expensive and even the cheap ones do a decent job of blocking the light enough. I have the 48" x 48" version of THIS TENT and I haven't had any issues with it. That page shows the prices for all the sizes for that tent, too.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01731MNJE?pf_rd_p=46535598-d2e0-4bc4-8392-182d8c1e93fc&pf_rd_r=8H4TWSGDTNH3DD7MKCW3&th=1
$106.30 at 39% off now the 4x4 is cheaper than the 3x3. I love my 3x3, it's just the right size for four plants, but if you have the space the 4x4 gives a little more space and options with it. The 2x4 is short which is a little more difficult to work with.
Everything is on Amazon, though I'm in Canada so it's .ca but they have clearly been prepping for this for some time.
I'm allowed 4 plants so I am growing 2 different strains. I am using LED lighting and I have a self-contained tent as well as a carbon filter and fan for ventilation. I am starting in soil but might eventually move to hydroponics.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B072F6SPB1/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01731MNJE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06XFRNPR8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have a Mars 600 I use in my veg tent, and its great for tight node spacing in early veg.
But I flower with HPS, and its worth it IMO
If I could only pick one it would be a MH/HPS kit over cheap LED no question.
I have one of these and like it
https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GLK600LS24-Digital-Dimmable/dp/B005ECZQTY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484365758&sr=8-1&keywords=600w+hid
I also have the large reflector cool tube version, but it cost more and doesnt cool any better than the other hood.
Interesting. Do you mean something like this?
https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GLK600LS24-Digital-Dimmable/dp/B005ECZQTY/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1494802924&sr=8-5&keywords=hps+600watt
My fan was on the out-take pulling air out of the tent. This is what I used for ventilation http://www.ebay.com/itm/VenTech-4-6-Inline-Duct-Fan-with-Carbon-Filter-and-Variable-Speed-Controller-/181246860768
My light setup is: http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GLK600LS24-Digital-Dimmable/dp/B005ECZQTY
No, but here's the first one that pops up when you search on amazon
Apollo Horticulture GLK600LS24 600 Watt Grow Light Digital Dimmable HPS MH System for Plants Air Cool Hood Set https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005ECZQTY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_YMP4ybBEE64H8
> Or you could hop on Apollo Horticulture 600w air cooled digital MH/HPS ~200$ and get a higher yield than that
Yeah, price & yield are definitely factors.
On the Apollo, would you recommend the cool-tube model
Or the standard air-cooled version:
Definitely worried about heat in the smaller tent.
Imo you'd be better off getting a cob setup with cbx 3590 or vero 29 cobs this site has some good options to choose from. If you want to try out something different with good coverage and efficiency check out qb boards. If you want something affordable, yet powerful go with a 600/1000 mh/hps light. If you just want a basic cheap led light marshydro 300w(132w actual) is a good start.
Ok, so I am scrapping the 2 smaller CFLs that I have and selling them on Ebay and amazon. I am going with a package like this that includes a 600W HPS and MH bulb, timer, and an Aircool hood.
Does dimming them essentially reduce the Kelvins without sacrificing wattage? Or will both be reduced? Or am I completely wrong haha.
We were using CFL's for vegging and LED for flowering. Our LED light is just a really thin strip so I don't think it's distributing enough light out to the plants. I just bought a 600w HPS: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005ECZQTY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
We're growing in a basement. It can get fairly cold in the winter so hopefully the HPS will even out the temp a little. Otherwise we do have a space heater we can turn on occasionally.
I was planning on just setting up an oscilating fan in the bud room. But with this new money I was thinking we could get the actual 6in fan that goes in the hood.
Do you use ducting for ventilation? Is it possible to connect the ventilation from the grow room to the ventilation from the dryer or water heater thing? There are ducts that go right through the grow room. Otherwise there's a window in the grow room but it's pretty easy to see from outside. I don't need it to be super discreet since it's medical but I don't want to advertise what we're doing either.
I also was considering getting an actual grow tent. Right now we kind of just surrounded the area where the plants are with mylar from emergency blankets and tents. I'm a little worried about them getting either too hot or not being sealed enough to keep the light in.
Any thoughts on the above info is definitely welcome :) We're very much new time growers. We harvested once and it was a pretty small amount, but we got high off of it! So goal semi accomplished haha
So then this one right?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005ECZQTY/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1499052997&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=600W+hps+grow+light&dpPl=1&dpID=51w9ciKiSYL&ref=plSrch
Thank you for your advice! I have been looking at Mars Hydro LEDs on Amazon. I see a 300w for $90 or a 600w for $159. Do you think it's worth the jump in price to go with the 600w for a smaller scale grow? I was looking at HID kits as well, for nearly the same price as the 600w Mars Hydro you can go with this option as well http://amzn.com/B005ECZQTY
Thanks for your insight, it is greatly appreciated!
I have a different LED but maybe this can help.
This is my current grow: http://imgur.com/a/FnEdV (The second picture in the album shows the hook)
and this is the 300 watt light that I have: http://www.amazon.com/ViparSpectra-Reflector-Spectrum-Indoor-Plants/dp/B01B4GQ6MO?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
Our hooks might be different but maybe this will give you an idea on how to hang it
Also these may be the hooks you are looking for: http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-Adjustable-Improved-Internal/dp/B0098R0600/ref=pd_bxgy_86_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=05TYKJTTZ9XTFCD7SRCJ
You need these... Adjustable Lighting
I'd recommend spending just a little more and getting ones with metal gears like these. The iPower ones came with my lights and I do not trust them to hold, they are very cheaply made. The carabiner is tied on and the internal gears are plastic. Now I use the cheap ones as backups for my ducting or filter in case my straps slip.
I have mine currently on my laundry room shelf with an LED light. Ha. Nice setup. I don't have any reflective insulation right now since I will be moving mine outside soon. But next year I plan on it. Would you say it's cheaper to do that or just get a tent?
Anyone curious, this the LED and hooks I have:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01F53LP46
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0098R0600
This is still a work in progress
Details:
Essential shoping list (to me)
-[6" fan and carbon filter]
(https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008NYF8S4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1) works great, no smell, plenty of airflow, relatively loud at 100%, virtually silent when turned down to below 30% with some sound absorbing foam around the intake and fan. 4" would have worked for my small setup. I'm pushing through the filter which is outside my grow area with no problems. Don't forget some ducting and real duct tape. Clamps aren't really needed at these speeds and pressures if you have good tape, but they won't hurt.
-[Speed controller for fan.] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006NGI2RS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) This was definitely overkill, I just didn't trust cheaper voltage regulators, plus I can and have used it for other things. Pretty well made, works great.
-[pH meter.] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CMFVXMA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) I didn't want to cheap out on this since pH is so important. Meter works great. Only note is you probably want to get some extra storage solution, it only comes with a little, and after a few months you'll run out.
-Light was a Viparspectra 300 (130 actual watts). Worked well, had good growth. I added more light later but for my small space that would have probably given me decent yields.
-[This timer for lights] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MYOD58S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) was super easy to program and hasn't failed. It has a bright blue LED indicating if the timer is sending power to the lights which is nice, but I had to tape over it because it was so bright. Also, the timer gets a little warm which makes me a little uneasy since I only have ~250 watts going through it.
-General Hydroponics FloraGrow, FloraMicro, FloraBloom, CaliMagic. I also got Fox Farms Big Bloom part way through flower but don't have any way to know its actual benefits so it's not an essential.
-Coco for growing medium. Most people add perlite, I didn't.
-7 gal smart pot
-Plastic storage container with a kitchen cooling rack to sit the pot into and onto and allow drainage without making a mess. Cooling rack allows for 1/2" of water to accumulate before the pot is sitting in it.
-[adjustable hangers for lights.] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0098R0600/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) Work great, easy to use
Set up and process
I've used this before. It's ok. I had a hard time mounting it inside of the enclosure so I had to just set it on top. The reflector isn't very good so I wasn't getting as strong of UVB as I wanted through the screen.
https://www.amazon.com/Sunblaster-904296-NanoTech-Fixture-Reflector/dp/B00AKKUBDQ/ref=sr_1_9?crid=1TS5E52TNPND5&keywords=t5ho+reptile+light+fixture&qid=1563203259&s=gateway&sprefix=T5ho%2Caps%2C247&sr=8-9
I switched to something like this. They usually come with a mounting kit and I like the reflector on it.
I bought a t5 fixture on amazon, I believe I got this one but I would recommend this one if you can get it while it’s in stock, they sell out quickly. However the one I got off amazon hasn’t caused me any issues and I was able to mount it on top of my 4x2x2 PVC enclosure for my geyri. For the basking bulbs I use the ceramic fixture that came with my enclosure that I ordered off of diycages.com, I believe they sell the fixtures separately but they are meant to be mounted to the top of a PVC or wooden enclosure so if you are using glass that fixture would not work, but the t5 still could be set on the screen.
Try this link https://www.amazon.com/Sunblaster-904296-NanoTech-Fixture-Reflector/dp/B00AKKUBDQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=sunblaster&qid=1565807059&s=gateway&sr=8-1
Looks like your standard T5HO grow light and reflector combo to me. Perhaps a Sunblaster T5HO?
Sunblaster tend to be slightly more pricey than other manufacturers so you can probably bag a cheaper bargain if you look for other T5HO grow lights online. You can also get different setups i.e. from single tube with a reflector right up to significantly larger 8 tube combos.
you could move the basking spot up as close to the screen as possible as a temporary solution, when I was waiting for my t5's I just cut a hole in the screen for the t8 to get through better, but then you have to worry about an escaping dragon.
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this is the fixture I use: https://www.amazon.com/Sunblaster-904296-NanoTech-Fixture-Reflector/dp/B00AKKUBDQ/
the bulbs are cheapest on petco.com : https://www.petco.com/shop/en/petcostore/product/reptile/reptile-heating-lighting/zoo-med-reptisun-100-uvb-t5-ho-lamp-24-watts
I just invested in this one myself, haven't had any issues yet. But I've only had it a week or so thus far.
Sunblaster 904296 NanoTech T5 High Output Fixture Reflector Combo, 2-Feet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AKKUBDQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_GE6UBbV4EQJD2
Those definitely need a lot of light, and basil likes heat. I'm sure it could work in a cabinet if you have reflective material (mylar is great) on all sides but one for viewing. It would work better if it was on all sides, but it'll still work.
The lights I recommended (COB) tend to have a pinkish tint. If you want something that looks closer to regular sunlight for the sake of aesthetics, T5's are great. You could probably light the whole thing with 4 of these. Maybe add a COB or two.
The succulents under the cheapo gooseneck lights are etiolating slightly but not horribly, but those plants also get some filtered afternoon sun next to a window. I recently bought this Sunblaster 904296 NanoTech T5 High Output Fixture Reflector Combo, 2-Feet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AKKUBDQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_4naQDbKMJ1YZ4 I'm am confident it will work better, but I just received it and haven't taken it out of the box yet.
My sansii bulb works well, but I'm not using it for sun-hungry succulents. I have my pineapple plants, Sansevieria and some other medium light succulents under it.
i think this will work?
I got one of these for my 20g long and has been great. a bit too much light until I added water lettuce and duckweed. Now however it works well. I have it on a $10 timer from a box store running 4 on 4 off 4 on. I'm happy, and the tank seems happy.
http://www.amazon.com/Sunblaster-904296-NanoTech-Fixture-Reflector/dp/B00AKKUBDQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427398388&sr=8-1&keywords=24+sunblaster+nanotech
I would say use a grow box like this
Apollo Horticulture 48"x48"x80" Mylar Hydroponic Grow Tent for Indoor Plant Growing https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H9O6UJ0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_mi85xbV5MPKCT
Here is the tent:
Apollo Horticulture 48"x48"x80" Mylar Hydroponic Grow Tent for Indoor Plant Growing https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H9O6UJ0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_93rZxbJJ5D780
I'm using the same lights from my previous setup and have another carbon filter and inline fan on the way. Do you guys think two inline fans would be overkill for this tent? I've got 1000 total watts that'll be running and I haven't tested anything for temps just yet. Any advice is super appreciated and welcome!
48x48x80 Apollo Horticulture 48”x48”x80” Mylar Hydroponic Grow Tent for Indoor Plant Growing https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H9O6UJ0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_-sHdAb565QMF7
It is definitely a cheaply made tent but I’m only on my 5th grow. Plan on getting a better one soon.
No, the 4x4x6.6 (48”x48”x80”) is only $95, which is like 117CAD. I’d look through all the links on Amazon as sometimes they sort the more expensive sellers first.
Edit: Apollo Horticulture: https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-Hydroponic-Indoor-Growing/dp/B00H9O6UJ0
I'll have to use a tent, and it will most likely be this one http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-Hydroponic-Indoor-Growing/dp/B00H9O6UJ0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1458706703&sr=8-2&keywords=grow+tent+48
Whatever I end up doing, I want at least 6 oz of weed, more if possible. I'll be selling it and keeping a little.
Ya the confusion is the picture in the Amazon add doesn't match the size you selected. The size you've selected is right but the tent pictured in the amazon post is like 4'x8'x8'
You've got the right size tent picked though you might want to consider a different seller on Amazon. Plus the one you've selected is overpriced.
check this out:
https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-Hydroponic-Indoor-Growing/dp/B00H9O6UJ0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1487184293&sr=8-3&keywords=grow+tent
4x4 tent with 4 plants and a decent veg time and you could get about a lb or maybe a little less every 5 months.
4x4 set up is a lot less than $1000
tent $100 https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-Hydroponic-Indoor-Growing/dp/B00H9O6UJ0
light $170 https://www.amazon.com/iPower-Digital-Dimmable-System-Reflector/dp/B005GYRZV2
exhaust fan $100 https://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-ACDF6-Active-Air-Inline/dp/B00KWYJQYA
clip fans $20 - $40 https://www.amazon.com/Comfort-Zone-Clip-Stands-anywhere/dp/B000U9V47E
You still need buckets and soil as well as seeds or clones, but the bulk of what you need is right there.
You could swap out the HID lamp for some leds easily enough. Or upgrade to slightly better quality items, but you can get started for pretty cheap if you want.
Add a second set up like this and you can go perpetual grow and harvest several times a year.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H9O6UJ0
Here is the mobile version of your link
little bigger than you want prolly but you'll be happy for the room after first grow, love these, inexpensive and with Prime shipping
I like having access on three sides too even if I don't use all three I can stick in a variety of spots
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H9O6UJ0/
Apollo Horticulture makes great tents and products. I'm running a 6in premium carbon filter from them as well. Have both rents connected and it is doing its job just right.
IMO tent thickness isn't needed. Where I live it gets down to the mid 20s. My garage isn't heated and gets too around 50s, and with my lighting, A small space heater, and the tent, I'm keeping a nice 74(sleep time) 78(daylight) at 40% to 50% humidity constantly.
This is one tent I recommend , and my carbon filter
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00H9O6UJ0/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479327070&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=grow+tent
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00QB0UOXQ/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Ooh interesting ..
I bought this ;
T5 Grow Light (4ft 4lamps) DL844s Ho Fluorescent Hydroponic Fixture Bloom Veg Daisy Chain with Bulbs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HEYCRI8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_rsskDb87P981B
So the fluorescent could take away humidity and moisture faster? Which LED lights did you get? I’ll definitely get a timer switch ! Great idea you just time 12 / 12 right
I was thinking of a cheaper fixture this time like this one
Legit get one of these and you'll be just fine no need for a giant filter/fan system: https://www.amazon.com/4lamps-DL844s-Fluorescent-Hydroponic-Fixture/dp/B00HEYCRI8/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1510932370&sr=8-6&keywords=t5
something like this will be fine https://www.amazon.com/4lamps-DL844s-Fluorescent-Hydroponic-Fixture/dp/B00HEYCRI8
Here's the link again to my first album after initial setup for reference: http://imgur.com/a/fvzkZ
Hope this helps. I spent many hours on and off for a year researching before pulling the trigger on this system. In case you are wondering, here's the light I bought: Light It seems to be working very well so far with good output (~20,000 lumens) for 216 watts.
if they're long shelves most people just get a long hanging thing and put 2-4 T5 bulbs in it.
https://www.amazon.com/4lamps-DL844s-Fluorescent-Hydroponic-Fixture/dp/B00HEYCRI8
This for example. You can get 1,2, or 4 bulb fixtures, and in lengths of 2 or 4 feet. Can find at any big box store, or online for not too bad. then just buy some daylight bulbs for them.
If you want more of a Square format, you can buy 1000-1200 watt LED's that will do a 3x3 or 4x4 foot area for between $40-60.
If you don't have many plants you can always scale down for smaller options in both.
I would think one of these should be pretty good for 40 plants.
https://www.amazon.com/4lamps-DL844s-Fluorescent-Hydroponic-Fixture/dp/B00HEYCRI8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487633410&sr=8-1&keywords=grow+light+t5
Something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/4lamps-DL844s-Fluorescent-Hydroponic-Fixture/dp/B00HEYCRI8
I like it alright. It's pricier in comparison to the fluorescent lights. I have these two at the moment, though only the latter is in that grow shelf set up:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WDJ7LG2/ (The advantage of this one is that it has two on/off switches so you can control half of the bulbs separately. It also has a power plug that you can plug another light in to.
https://smile.amazon.com/4lamps-DL844s-Fluorescent-Hydroponic-Fixture/dp/B00HEYCRI8 (This one is only two inches tall, so you can fit it into a grow shelf without losing as much headroom. The bulbs are connected by little cords at each end instead of over the top, and it only has one on/off switch and no plugs.
The thing to keep in mind is that the fluorescent lights are all about 1 ft x 4 ft, while the LED light is only 12.6x7.9x3 inches. I could fit three of the LED lights into the same space as one of the fluorescent lights. You can look at that as good or bad, I guess, since it means it's more expensive, but you can also get much brighter coverage over all if you invest in it.
The other thing to keep in mind is that the LED light is fairly loud. The fluorescent light is completely silent, while the LED is louder than a gaming desktop. They can supposedly be modded with quieter cooling fans though, if that matters.
Buy a light, you can screw the first one into any normal lamp or light fixture and this will keep a couple small plants or a whole head of hydroponic lettuce thriving. Or just go huge like me and get the second one. and grow tons of greens.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00947QMK2/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HEYCRI8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/ABelle-ZCplus-Lights-Waterproof-Spectrum/dp/B01NAC7ZOC
https://www.amazon.com/Rolledro-Lights-Indoor-Spectrum-Hydroponics/dp/B00RWYCRB2
Check this out: Roleadro UFO 138W LED Grow Light for Home Grower Roleadro https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RWYCRB2/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awdo_nw7aAbRD7T7RC
I got 1.17oz from this and 5050 leds.
I'm thinking about using 2x138 watt
UFO lights for some help on the plants it won't cover. Here they are
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RWYCRB2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_A1p0xbP59VX81
I use this high quality, organic soil that you only have to add tap water to (no nutes or pH - this is NOT the case with all soils, however).
You could literally just throw some of that in a pot in a closet, then hang a light like this from the clothing bar that you would normally put hangers and whatnot on and just add water whenever the soil gets dry.
You should get some high quality bud from that setup for pretty cheap. Wont yield much with only that light, but you can add another light on the next grow or when you have more $$$.
Is this something that would be more appropriate? It seems to be on sale for a pretty good price and it's about 4 times the advertised wattage of my current lamp
You'd be much better off with one of these https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RWYCRB2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_k01RAbFQG9WXE or https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07312WKX2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_E01RAbJSA85FE
Depending on how close they'll be to the plant both are the cheapest to the most efficient par
Ok, here is my build list minus a couple things that I bought locally.
Century 24 Hour Plug-in Mechanical Timer Grounded https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MVFF59S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_e3IZi2JQyzkoT
ON Smart Solution Household Power Strip-4 Multi Outlets with 4 USB Ports-15.5W Universal (100V~240V) Charging Station-600J Surge Protector Power Bar-6 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EWSU32U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_ZxNnKD3WD1MXo
Roleadro UFO 138W LED Grow Light for Home Grower https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RWYCRB2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_gk82nAf13MTzV
AC Infinity MULTIFAN S5, Quiet Dual 80mm USB Fan for Receiver DVR Playstation Xbox Computer Cabinet Cooling https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IJ2J2K0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_SCXe7KPU8uBsq
Plus a roll of black duct tape, roll of reflective ducting tape, and a 3 gallon smart pot
Edit: Oh yeah, and 4 Ace Hardware 5 gallon buckets
Is this the US versiosn https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-138W-Grow-Light-Grower/dp/B00RWYCRB2/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1479131185&sr=8-3-fkmr0&keywords=Roleadro+%C2%AE+UFO+Led+Plant+Lamp+138w+%2846++3w%29+with+IR+UV+Ray+for+houseplant+growth+greenhouse+light ?
These seedlings are probably five weeks in and they have slowly begun to start pointing their leaves up and have begun to yellow. Now they are starting to drop leaves. I thought that maybe I was watering them too much so I have backed off for the past week, but it doesn't seem to be helping.
Anyone have any idea what I did to screw these up? And is there any saving them at this point?
The currently have a this 138W light which is 8-10 inches away from the plant.
Just discovered the Space Bucket method for growing and I'm super excited to try it out.
I'd really appreciate it if someone can answer me this; I'm planning to grow around 3 plants. Can they all be put in the same pot inside the bucket? Also, what's the LED wattage required for such a small crop?
Would these lights work: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RWYCRB2/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=sl1&tag=spacbuck-20&linkId=a1a9a1b958abb9ee0dee2e5e7a9dc31f&th=1
I helped set up a grow with an LED light. The light itself was about $150-$200 but it's perfect for veg and flowering. I would recommend going that route since it helps with the heat and electricity.
This is the light. 600w equivalent only using 300w. It's full spectrum and the light is actually a really intense violet color, its pretty badass. The person growing says their electricity has only gone up by about $30 (.12c/kWh or so)
MarsHydro Mars300 Mars600 Led Grpow Light(Mars600 with Veg/Bloom Spectrum for Hydroponic Indoor Greenhouse/Garden Plant Growing, 272W True Watt Panel) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XC3LBIW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_KvovxbYQTRKNV
Sorry for the link formatting, on mobile. I highly recommend the light though. It has had plenty of power for the three plants that they have in about the same footage as your grow.
DIY are superior, as you can get the exact nm frequencies you like, but if you aren't handy with electronics you can run the risk of fire or simply blowing money on a dud product. You can get 600w leds for 150 now on amazon, and they work really well.
https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Mars600-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B00XC3LBIW
Good luck, and keep the sub updated!
its a marketing ploy really, they say its to increase the longevity of the light boards themselves but who knows. https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Updated-Spectrum-Certificate-Hydroponic/dp/B00XC3LBIW
if this is the same light or similar then you can read on the page that it actually only pulls 132 watts +- 10%
" ENERGY-SAVING: Consuming only 132watt±10% with the same effect of typical 150W hps or HID grow lights. "
its a common mistake you shouldn't really worry about it, just know that most people recommend anywhere from 30-50 watts of actual true wattage per sqft of tent, and in your case you only have about just a little over 15.
Again only saying mars hydro 600w gives it a bit of leniency but the best 600w blurple led ive seen maxes out at like 180 watts which could work but you would probably see a massive improvement if you added some more light in there.
If your light isnt a blurple then i could be totally off.
Thanks! Im going to get some today.
The light im using is a Marshydro 600W LED (275W true output). I got it for $140 from the Marshydro store on ebay!
http://www.ebay.com/usr/marshydro?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2754
https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Mars600-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B00XC3LBIW/ref=pd_sim_86_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=P6JXBRPZQ6WV5ANKFJA2
I really like the light because I feel it has good penetration, it does not produce a lot of heat, and it is easy of my electric bill haha. I have not experienced a single problem with it!
Thanks for the info, I'm not sure on the version, https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Mars600-Spectrum-Certificate-Hydroponic/dp/B00XC3LBIW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486758106&sr=8-1&keywords=mars+hydro+600w
whatever that one is?
I thought aiming for around 50 watts per sq ft was best to aim for. Have you any idea how much difference there could be to the plants in the two different spaces (~71W per sq ft in the 2x2 to ~31W in the 3x3)?
Which one of these would work for the tent in my OP and 4 plants? Or would I need an HPS?
https://www.amazon.com/Double-Specturm-Greenhouse-Flowering-Growing/dp/B01JLKUA2W/ref=pd_sim_86_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=MK1MKFVY1BY0RPG81WB3
https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Mars600-Spectrum-Certificate-Hydroponic/dp/B00XC3LBIW/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1487102778&sr=1-1&keywords=mars+hydro+600w
Thanks for the suggestion. It looks like the mars 600 is a little cheaper than 2 mars 300s. Any reason I should buy one over the other?
https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Mars600-Spectrum-Certificate-Hydroponic/dp/B00XC3LBIW/ref=sr_1_2?srs=10776211011&ie=UTF8&qid=1482214894&sr=8-2
I was thinking 4ft would be too big inside as well, so cloning definitely seems like the way to go. I was thinking of using this light since it seems to have good reviews and isn't super expensive.
https://www.amazon.com/MarsHydro-Spectrum-Certificate-Hydroponic-Growing/dp/B00XC3LBIW?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=x
Indeed you can keep auto flowering plants small, but you can actually do that with any plant. Look up sea of green or screen of green methods to run small plants effectively. But can't stress this enough, I don't recommend autos, and if you're beginning with clones it's doubtful anyone has auto clones. Autos by nature are tough to clone, as the clones almost immediately begin to flower and don't have time to grow out as they would if they had been from seeds.
The tent method is great for beginners, but will run a bit more than $100. In total you would need a tent, LED light, inline fan, pots, soil, nutes, bamboo stalks, garden twine, PH testing kit, carbon filter, hanging clips, trimmers, drying rack, mason jars, and 62% boveda packs. If you search craigslist you can probably find a bunch of people selling their used gear. With a 2 x 4 tent you could yield 8 ounces or more, although it's more likely that you'll harvest 3-4 ounces your first go. A 4 x 4 tent would allow you lots of room and twice the yield.
Also in regards to LED's, be mindful of how many square feet you're trying to cover. I've got a few different LED's in my gardens, as well as MH/HPS lights. Many of the LED's claim to be full spectrum, and while that may be true, they vary quite a bit in terms of what they mean by that. I've got ones that are blueish white, blue, purple, more red, and one that has a switch from veg to flower. Out of all of them I really like my Mars Hydro , although I will say it does run very blue. Despite the dominantly blue spectrum, it's produced buds comparable to a 600w HPS, but with significantly more frost.
Any heat source will work as long as it gets warm enough and not too hot. You’re looking for about 85 degrees. For me, this means setting my mat to 93 degrees.
Here’s the mat I have with temp controller. It’s cheap but works. $28 shipped.
controller
mat
You could also try a dimmer with the lamp.
https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-68-108%C2%B0F-Thermostat-Controller/dp/B010GFADNM
https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Seedling-Thermostat-Controller-Alternation/dp/B015F4VFGI/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
I use these two. There's also an additional one linked in the beginner post I think
I have been using this one with no issues so far. A little cheaper and it does the same thing. Although it reads about 2-4 degrees cooler than what my gun reads and I usually go with what my temp gun tells me so I match the thermostat accordingly.
VIVOSUN Digital Seedling Heat Mat... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015F4VFGI?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
I have that thermostat connected to a Large ZooMed (petsmart) Under Tank Heater. Warm side shouldn’t exceed 95!
Thermostat
And for an UTH just get one from zoomed, I've never had a problem with theirs before.
I'm using this one right now and absolutely love it
https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Hydroponic-Obeservation-Window-Growing/dp/B01731MNJE
Everything is super sturdy, the zippers are high quality and zip really well, and the inside seems perfect. I was originally going to go apollo and save 20 bucks, but i went a little more pricey based on reviews and couldnt be happier.
Do you think a tent would help with the light requirement for things like tomatoes? Kind of like this?
this is what I've come up with for my second iteration of the parts list.
| Part Name | Model | Price | Link |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Grow tent | VIVOSUN Horticulture 48"x48"x80" Mylar Hydroponic Grow Tent with Obeservation Window and Floor Tray for Indoor Plant Growing 4' x4' | $185.99 | https://www.amazon.ca/VIVOSUN-Horticulture-Hydroponic-Obeservation-Growing/dp/B01731MNJE/ref=sr_1_7?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1548815676&sr=1-7&keywords=grow+tent |
| Grow Light | VIVOSUN Hydroponic 600 Watt HPS MH Grow Light Bulb Digital Dimmable Ballast Air Cooled Hood Set | $239.95 | https://www.amazon.ca/VIVOSUN-Hydroponic-Digital-Dimmable-Ballast/dp/B00P8P51ZQ/ref=pd_sbs_86_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00P8P51ZQ&pd_rd_r=b5984eae-2511-11e9-9ef7-8b5dde2c9ca4&pd_rd_w=kv8VT&pd_rd_wg=d3xJu&pf_rd_p=d4c8ffae-b082-4374-b96d-0608daba52bb&pf_rd_r=G0R27XTT0WWJAAJ27SVQ&psc=1&refRID=G0R27XTT0WWJAAJ27SVQ |
| exhaust System (filter/fan) | VIVOSUN 6 Inch 440 CFM Inline Fan with Speed Controller, 6 Inch Carbon Filter and 8 Feet of Ducting Combo for Grow Tent Ventilation | $208.99 | https://www.amazon.ca/VIVOSUN-Inline-Controller-Ducting-Ventilation/dp/B01NA07G79/ref=sr_1_3_sspa?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1548908529&sr=1-3-spons&keywords=inline+fan&psc=1 |
| soil | PRO-MIX 42.5L HP Mycorrhizae Growing Mix | $14.99 | https://www.lowes.ca/soil/pro-mix-425l-hp-mycorrhizae-growing-mix_g2826504.html |
| pots | VIVOSUN 5-Pack 5 Gallons Heavy Duty Thickened Nonwoven Fabric Pots Grow Bags with Handles | 18.99 | https://www.amazon.ca/VIVOSUN-Gallons-Thickened-Nonwoven-Handles/dp/B00TF9E6XE/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1548884123&sr=8-6&keywords=fabric+planters |
| temp/humidity sensor | TRIXES Digital LCD Thermometer Temperature Weather Hygrometer Humidity Moisture | $10.29 | https://www.amazon.ca/TRIXES-Thermometer-Temperature-Hygrometer-Humidity/dp/B00KGEAAMI/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1548824626&sr=1-5&keywords=temp+and+humidity+sensor |
| Nutriants | Advanced Nutrients pH Perfect Nutrients, Fertilizer. Bloom, Micro and Grow 1-Liter PACK OF 3 | $66.24 | https://www.amazon.ca/Advanced-Nutrients-Perfect-Fertilizer-1-Liter/dp/B07CQSBJ3K/ref=lp_7760549011_1_1?srs=7760549011&ie=UTF8&qid=1548904821&sr=8-1 |
| Total: | | $745.44 | |
I built my own portable dark room using this
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01731MNJE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_OJ5UBb047AF37
Some people use ice fishing tents.
4x4, it was a cheap amazon tent but the only thing that I have noticed so far is a few small pin holes of light where some stitching got messed up.
VIVOSUN 48"x48"x80" Mylar... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01731MNJE?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
https://smile.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Hydroponic-Observation-Window-Growing/dp/B01731MNJE
Never used a gorilla grow tent, but i went with the Vivosun (4'x2') for like $80 and am very impressed with it's quality for the price. Super happy with the purchase.
Edit: Looks like they make a 4x4 version for $120 - that's 2x the area for only 50% more than mine!
The tent I have has reflective insulation inside of it.
 
https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Hydroponic-Observation-Window-Growing/dp/B01731MNJE/ref=sr_1_8?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1525221844&sr=1-8&keywords=grow+tent&dpID=41dfP94Og0L&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
 
This is all in my garage which is hot and hostile, lol. I have 4 inline fans and ducts so the airflow is filtered and doesn't heat the garage too much. There is no AC involved. Currently the rigs aren't in the tent since I moved the rigs and shelf around. I plan to set up the tent soon and will do a separate post. Feel free to ask me anything.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01731MNJE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Or should I go for "600w" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IVQ96MW/?th=1
Looking to keep it around (or ideally under) $150, and want something quality that I can daisy chain later.
https://www.amazon.com/Roleadro-Upgrade-Developed-Spectrum-Generation/dp/B01IVQ96MW/
I have two of these and I am extremely happy with them. One of the few brands that carry white LEDs.
I hear ya man! We all gotta get a leg up somewhere.
Here's the LED panel I mentioned.
Roleadro LED Grow Light, 1200W 2nd Generation Plant Light Full Spectrum for Indoor Greenhouse Hydroponic Plants Veg and Flower https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IVQ96MW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_8bqjDb2MM8P40
This is the light I was looking at, supposed to output 250 Watts.
I’m down for getting a QB, I just wanna find one that would give me the same output for the same money
That would work, although for the same price as two of those you could get Roleandro 2nd Gen 600 watt ~250 watt actual draw
I think the Roleadro would be better.
I'm trying to see what the actually pull on this thing is.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01IVQ96MW/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8
It says 124 but I think that's talking about their 300w because my Vipar 300 draws actual like 130 or something according to the manual.
So if the 600 draws 240-260, that's not bad for the price. $137. And the roleadro has the white/yellow light so it would compliment one of the disco ball lights well.
I just can't find for sure what the actual on it is.
You can grow OG, just don't expect massive yields.
CFLs are for the spacebuckets. I wouldn't use them for tents as they're just not powerful enough. For a 2x2, you'll want a 600W light minimum regardless of how many plants in the tent. This is the light I use in my 2x2: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IVQ96MW
If you use CFLs, you'll want two colors, 6500K and 2700K. I use 4x 6500K and 2x 2700K for veg, and then 6x 2700K for flower if using a spacebucket.
Save some money, try these
How quickly do you need to set up / tear down?
A couple of these:
CHAUVET DJ CH06 Lightweight Lighting Stand w/T-Bar (50lb Capacity) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0096JYRY6/
...would give you a mounting location above eye level. Now you can decide your light budget. At the cheapest would be 4-6 basic hardware clamp lights (like these, but get them at a local hardware store for about $6):
Simple Deluxe 2-Pack Clamp Lamp Light with 8.5 Inch Aluminum Reflector up to 150 Watt E26/E27 Socket (no Bulb Included) 6 Feet 18/2 SPT-2 Cord UL Listed https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XD1PK37/
Point them up at the ceiling for good ambient light, or aim one or two at the performance area. Higher in budget, a couple of inexpensive LED par lights may be enough to light the practice space. You probably won't need sandbags for that small amount of weight.
Brighter, but a bit more expensive: you could even suspend /attach shop lights to the light tree cross bars. I recommend LED in case they fall.
Sunco Lighting 2 Pack LED Utility Shop Light, 4 FT, Linkable Integrated Fixture, 40W=260W, 5000K Daylight, 4100 LM, Frosted Lens, Surface/Suspension Mount, Pull Chain, Garage - ETL, Energy Star https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0725D24X2/
The trees will make setup and teardown easier, you can run power right up them, and if you move spaces they're useful in the future. Those string lights are not very bright and you'll begin losing bulbs as soon as they get jostled while hot (if incandescent). Plus taking tape on and off each time may be a big pain.
https://www.amazon.ca/Simple-Deluxe-Brooder-Aluminum-Reflector/dp/B06XD1PK37/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=31E775FZ2CXZI&keywords=clamp+light&qid=1556669544&s=gateway&sprefix=clamp&sr=8-3
https://www.amazon.ca/Satco-Products-S3929-Incandescent-Shatterproof/dp/B000V52X7C/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?keywords=100+watt+incandescent+light+bulbs&qid=1556669767&s=gateway&sr=8-5
I like [clamp lamps] (https://www.amazon.com/Simple-Deluxe-Aluminum-Reflector-Included/dp/B06XD1PK37?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B06XD1PK37) myself. And I attach them to [pole lamps] (https://www.amazon.com/Boston-Harbor-TL-TREE-134-BK-3L-Light-Black/dp/B003A9E734/ref=sr_1_5?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1537695631&sr=1-5&keywords=pole+lamps) such as these.
You can also get these sort of things cheaper at big box stores sometimes.
I recently bought an LED light bulb at a dollar store (for a dollar) and was surprised at how bright white it is.
It's actually just a clamp light like you get from home Depot or Lowe's or any big box hardware store. They're all the same really roughly cost around 6-10 bucks. I got 2 of these off Amazon for about 16 bucks, and bought a 6 pack of 6500k LED lights as well for I believe 23?
Simple Deluxe 2-Pack Clamp Lamp Light with 8.5 Inch Aluminum Reflector up to 60 Watt E26 (no Bulb Included) 6 Feet Cord UL Listed https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XD1PK37/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_UxkaBbF461FSZ
(They're on sale for 14 and some change lol)
Leson 100 Watt Equivalent A19 LED Light Bulb Standard E26/E27 Base 13W Energy Saving, Daylight Cool White 6500k (6 Pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FYGDX3A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_xykaBbVR6BNS1
i use an ordinary clamp lamp with a high watt halogen spotlight in it. Wonderfully cheap and portable. The “daylight” or “true color” lamps are way too blue for me.
As of right now, I am good on space. I have some room on my window sill on the other side behind my bed that I can fit some IF I get any more. I have 42 total plants so I really don't NEED any more... I am trying to stay pretty cheap to be honest. Less than $50 but I don't want something so cheaply made that it won't last me a month. I have been looking at something like this bulb in this lamp to clip onto my bed to get pointed at each window or even onto a cat tree, which I moved out of the way for the sake of the photo but I usually keep to the left of my nightstand. I don't know about the LED lightbulb but I also know that succs prefer blue light but I read that fluorescent light is ideal for a cheap, quality lighting setup. While I know that LEDs aren't cheaper than fluorescent, do they work as well? I honestly know little to nothing about plant lighting, sorry for the essay!
Edit: Looked at the Overwinter Megathread and someone posted that their Succs loved this bulb so I might just get 2 these if they are tried and true. I also might just end up getting a real, hard setup with shelves, lighting, the mix. It might be my best option at this time.
I'm relatively new to succulents and I'm looking for any feedback on my overwintering setup. I have limited space, so this is what I came up with..
http://imgur.com/gallery/QjJMM1C
Edit: this is the light I have
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0748D2SMB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Aj-XBbAJNCS9T
I've seen both of these recommended here:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0748D2SMB/?coliid=IV20LOG462GWX&colid=3Q2ZGS49DRJ7A&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B4GQ6MO/?coliid=I7599APCLG2TG&colid=3Q2ZGS49DRJ7A&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
These are probably overkill for a 5 gal, these are what I use on my 30 gal. You'll need a lamp or a waterproof socket. They make a vert bright purple light, which is optimal for plant growth. You get less algae than from a white light.
https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Spectrum-Hydroponics-Organic-Wavelengths/dp/B0748D2SMB/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1539504329&sr=8-6&keywords=e26+led+grow+light
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If you want white light, google "high cri led par"
cri - color rating index. Basically, how well does a LED replicate the color of an incandescent bulb. I look for over 90cri
par - describes the lamp shape. Directs all the light forward in a wide cone, great for overhead lighting on a tank because a single lamp's light will spread out to cover the whole tank, and the bright lens of the bulb is pointed away from your eyes. For choosing your wattage, you'd probably want something in the 10-15W range.
Also, choose one that is 3000K. This replicates the warm amber color of an incandescent bulb. The higher the K, the more blue the light. Plants need mostly red light, and a bit of blue. It's also easier on the eyes, and I know how much time we all spend staring into our tanks.
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this is what I’ve been using!
I started using 6 of these, but you might be able to start with 4 and supplement with some CFL.
https://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-Spectrum-Hydroponics-Organic-Wavelengths/dp/B0748D2SMB
LED Grow Light Bulb, TaoTronics Full Spectrum Grow Lights for Indoor Plants, Grow Lamp, Plant Lights for Hydroponics, Organic Soil (36W, All Wavelengths, FREE E26 Socket) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0748D2SMB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_wUuPCbYF3BR55
I use these. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0748D2SMB?aaxitk=1Jl64k8F2dJkCEbIEo-62Q&th=1&psc=1
Plants are growing great with them, no complaints. (Actually, my only complaint is that they take a few minutes to turn on again after switching them off for some reason.)
Thank you so much! Here is the link to the one that I purchased. I have it about 2 feet above my succs and I keep it on 24/7. Grow Light
I have one of these. You can put it in any standard E26 socket (that's the usual light bulb socket). The bulb looks kinda neat and the light color is slightly pink instead of shocking magenta so it's not obnoxious. Also, it provides enough light to actually grow some things. I currently have tomato starts under it and they're doing fine.
I have 4 led grow lights https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0748D2SMB/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I think i turned some off when i took this picture.
Is an indoor plant safe outside? I currently keep it under a grow light (link below) for 12 hours a day next to window. It is also watered daily with a liquid fertilizer diluted with water.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074GR1KRT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_qApjDb55P7JZX
Lovebay Timing Function Dual Head... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074GR1KRT?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
If your plants can't get sufficient light indoors you will need actual grow lights. Try something like this, I've used these for overwintering peppers with success.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074GR1KRT/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_c7pUBbEC87M8N
I use this:
Lovebay Timing Function Dual Head Grow Light https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074GR1KRT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_HNw4Cb83S2GBY
I like that I can set it as a timer, and it will auto shut off in the morning in case I forget (I turn it on at night because I don't like the color during the day). I also like that there are two heads, which I face in slightly different directions to reach all my plants. Currently, 8 plants are using this on a shelf where one light gets the ones that are high, and the other gets the ones that are low. Works well for me!
Thank you! It’s partial indirect sun light, and this grow light. It has a timer and a dimmer which are really handy!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074GR1KRT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_zQwAAb2DZB0M5
Yes!
One thing I am having a problem with Light selection is I am pretty clueless about all things electrical, and get a tad overwhelmed at the idea of wiring. I look at Amazon listings and really just have no idea how to make heads or tails of whether things like this or other products are of reliable quality. Do you know of any resources where I can learn more about what to keep in mind when looking at lights?
I got this shelf and these lights. I used the zip ties to attach them to the shelves, and put the top one on the ceiling above the shelf with the sticky pads, it also comes with screws.
I was using this light
I just purchased and hung up this 45 w light
I noticed after my plants spend the day in the sun when they come inside and rest some of the E's stand up and look stretched out the next few days. It may just be an effect/recovering from less direct sunlight. The Pearls always seems to be more stretched out than before. I'm starting to wonder if stretching is a sign of stress in some plants and not just a sign of not enough sunlight.
Grow Light Strip Kit 45W Including Power Supply, 4 pcs 16 Inches LED Grow Light Strips with Extension Cables, Mounting Accessories for Greenhouse,Grow Shelf; Easy Installation-(4-Strip-Kit) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074Y32PFZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Vn-BDbTBVXDMK
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Mrhua 300W LED Grow Light, LED Plant Grow Lights UFO Series Full Spectrum with CREE COB More Higher Par Value for Indoor Plants Hydroponic Greenhouse Veg Bloom Flowering Seedling to Harvest https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077YL98KB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ds-BDbB86XSKQ
Main. Not too bad for a 300w ufo
Grow Lights for Plants, 45W Including Power Supply, 4 pcs 9.6W Extendable 16 Inches LED Grow Light Strip for Greenhouse, Plant Grow Shelf; Easy Installation-[4-Strip-Kit] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074Y32PFZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_pSSxCbAP4M8RB
These aren’t the exact ones but are very close if not better
If I started it indoors after I transfer it outside would it grow again? I’ve heard of people growing them indoors, taking them out in spring/summer and bring them in during fall/winter
Would this work for the beginning?
I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post such a basic question, so I'll ask here.
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What kind of grow lights should I get? I'm about to purchase a 5-tier shelf to hold all of my succulents for winter, but I'm new to this and have never used grow lights before. Browsing through this sub I've found these two are mentioned a lot? Here's one and here's another. Which one should I get? Should I put all the lights up top and let them shine down or should I put one on each shelf?
these from amazon. they work pretty good IMO. I’ve had them since September and my plants love them! Another Redditor recommended them on this sub.
https://www.amazon.ca/Litever-Extendable-waterproof-Installation-4-Strip-Kit/dp/B074Y32PFZ
I think those are it. Something similar anyway!
How high above my seedlings should LED lights be? All the guidance I see online is for lighting that is massively more powerful than these. I have these grow lights which are about 20W worth of light per level.
Here are some of the plants and setup: https://imgur.com/a/YZKuB
Is it worth moving the lights even closer? What about getting more light (20W seems like a small amount to me).
Also when you say more light how can I tell if my lights aren't bright enough? I turn them on when I get up and turn them off when I go to bed but when I first started them I was only doing about 10-12 hours a day.
I bought these cheap lights on Amazon so maybe they just aren't bright enough.
Grow Lights for Plants, 45W Including Power Supply, 4 pcs 9.6W Extendable 16 Inches LED Grow Light Strip for Greenhouse, Plant Grow Shelf; Easy Installation-[4-Strip-Kit] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074Y32PFZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Az9QCbS03TXKF
Hi I am by NO means super knowledgeable about these but since nobody else has given it a shot here we are, haha.
I don't think the wattage of that light is high enough to support plant growth. The spectrum/temperature/K is sufficient, but you need more powerful lights. If that makes sense.
I have used these in tandem with a south-facing window; they are not enough to support my plants without any help, but prevented etiolation in most of my plants: some had to be moved extremely close to grow normally so... (plus I found the purple unpleasant)
I invested recently in this light, which is pricier, but has been supporting the plants on its own -- no window. It's also white which is a lot more pleasant to look at IMO. Note the specs on these and see if you can find something that works for you! Best wishes
I asked a similar question the other day (sorry), but I don't feel like I have a good grasp on which light I should get... I've looked through the overwinter thread and tried to do even more research but I'm still feeling unsure.
Plan to get succulents for indoor. They won't get much light from the window that is nearby. Don't know what kind of succulents I'll be getting yet specifically, but hoping for pink. Out of these three LEDs, which would be best? They seem a bit similar to me but since I'm new and feeling overwhelmed with lighting, I would like some extra opinions.
Option 1 - 35w
Option 2 - 25w
Option 3 - 36w
Thank you!
If you really can't put it outside, I'd place it in the sunniest part of the room and install something like this above it https://www.amazon.com/SANSI-Daylight-Spectrum-Ceramic-Vegetative/dp/B07BRKG7X1
It depends on quite a few factors, though the two most important ones are probably the indoor location and whether you want your plant to continue fruiting during winter.
Because I house my lemon tree in a living room, I personally like full-spectrum LEDs that mimic sunlight best (i.e. none of that blurple BS which is very hard on the eyes). My current setup uses a 36W Sansi Full Spectrum LED (which is equivalent to a 200W incandescent).
If your plant is right beside a south/southwest-facing window (almost touching the glass), you can probably get away with a lower-energy bulb (but I don't have personal experience with this). The same holds true if you don't mind the plant going dormant and not fruiting or flowering during the winter months. This lady in Toronto is using a 30W LED for her citrus to keep her citrus alive with no other major light sources, as an example.
I have a nice Sansi 36W link. My current setup uses 6 13W daylight Jungle Dawn LED. They are about a foot from my phalaenopsis orchids and pings. They are about 15” from a massive nepenthen that’s loving them. 36W should be totally fine or even on the low side.
https://smile.amazon.com/SANSI-Daylight-Spectrum-Sunlight-Greenhouse/dp/B07BRKG7X1/
It was more than I was planning to spend, but I really wanted something with decent heat dissipation and blended LEDs. Then it was too good. That poor bonsai really suffered! I do like the Sansi bulbs though, the 40W is like the desert and the 15w makes it look like the bonsai is in its own pool of sunlight. :)
I’ve been using Sansi grow lights off amazon and I’ve been really happy with them. I’ve only had one burnt leaf, and that leaf literally grew into and was touching the light for an entire day before I noticed, so that was my fault lol. I’ve had them as close as three inches without any burning!
SANSI 24W LED Plant Light Bulb Full Spectrum LED Grow Light Plant Lights for Indoor Plants, E26 Grow Light Bulb for Hydroponics Greenhouse Houseplants Vegetable Tobacco, Sunlight White UV IR, 90 132V https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BRKT56T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_6dGhDbQ4Y7GQZ
Jalapeno plant started in rockwool. I am using the Sansi 24w grow light at a 12 inch height. Using Maxi Grow formula buy General Hydroponics. I will soon switch to Maxi Bloom. Air bubbler coming soon. I will put links below and give monthly updates.
SANSI 24W Full Spectrum Grow Light Bulb Sunlight https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BRKT56T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_mGBnDbD3GKTY9
General Hydroponics 718281+718301 Maxigro and Maxibloom Fertilizer, Each 2.2 lbs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GLV51NC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_7GBnDb2FMXF79
I would look at (link) https://www.amazon.com/SANSI-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse-Houseplants/dp/B07BRKT56T/ or similar. My preference is for a natural look instead of the purple lights most places sell. 30W with good PAR for plants will be perfect for that one plant over winter
I use this: it's really cost efficient and great. https://www.amazon.com/SANSI-Spectrum-Hydroponic-Greenhouse-Houseplants/dp/B07BRKT56T/ref=sr_1_12?keywords=led+grow+light+bulb&qid=1557776569&s=gateway&sr=8-12
What plants are you growing? What are their light needs?
I use grow bulbs like this:
grow bulb on amazon
For my tropical flowering plants, like hibiscus and also for palms. Not all tropicals need high light however, some burn very easily because they are found under the canopy- like some ferns.
I run the grow lights between 10-16 hours a day, depending on the season and how the plant reacts.
The distance from my light to my plants is about 16.5” Can you tell me if this is a good lightbulb to use?
You absolutely can use fluorescents! As you only have one at the moment i am assuming you mean a round-ish bulb type lamp, not a fluorescent fixture/tube type. There are both specialty bulbs, like this(Note that just because it is sold as a grow light, does not mean it is actually good at what it does - just like some celeb a while back sold game consoles that no one bought, because they were trash. Also this bulb is LED, not fluorescent), and normal fluorescent bulbs sold in stores like Lowes. Not all bulbs are created equal; but a bulb from Lowe's is often sufficient.
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If you plan to upgrade to many plants, you may wish to switch to tube-type bulbs, in which case you will need to take into account the output of the light. 6500K(Kelvin) is the color temperature generally suggested for succulents.
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Feel free to reply if you would like more information or if you would like someone other then me to respond. Also, cannabis growers have a forum where they test light bulbs for their effective light output - they've been doing it for years! This might be informative for you.
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Edit: Also, i would like to state that i am not dissing the bulb i linked. I have never used or purchased that item and cannot give a review on it.. Its just an example.
Alibaba for sure.
If you're stuck on not ordering from alibaba, spend more and get an HLG 100 off Amazon for 149, or just get unstuck and order from alibaba.
https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-USA-Quantum/dp/B07C57J7XX/ref=asc_df_B07C57J7XX/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=241883109355&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8474130366492575844&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1016441&hvtargid=pla-443916306627&psc=1
That's 25 bucks more for a way better light than that roleadro trash. Don't get lost in the wattage numbers. Blurple watts are bullshit.
Spend the price of a few joints extra and get a better light (HLG)
i am considering these
https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Board-Grow-Bloom-4000K/dp/B076QDKVDZ
https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-USA-Quantum/dp/B07C57J7XX
my tent is 2x4 and 5ft high. The first one is probably too small? Would the second suffice?
https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-USA-Quantum/dp/B07C57J7XX?ref_=ast_sto_dp
would do you well in that space. It's just at the upper end of your price limit. ($150)
Super simple to put together
So something like this would be ideal for what i'm looking for? :)
That light is garbage, do not buy it. If you need a cheap grow light get a Viparspectra 300 or 600. They are reliable lights that last a long time. However, your money will be better spent on a high quality light, quantum boards are currently the best commercially available to home growers: https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/products/hlg-100
That’s a great price on an all in one light that will last basically forever. There are others manufacturing these types of boards for lower cost but you would have to do some research and building. The HLG kits can be purchased on Amazon HLG 100 V2 4000K Horticulture Lighting Group Quantum Board LED Grow Light Veg & Bloom | Version 2 High-Efficiency Upgraded LM301B LED's- Includes Radix 100ml https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C57J7XX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_39Q2DbP5CP9SD
I've been using 2 of these the 4k version https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-USA-Quantum/dp/B07C57J7XX for the last 8 weeks and I've never had buds this dense before. If I was you I would just buy one of these for a 2x2.
I see your point. I like the option but here is a question..
Say I buy this: https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-USA-Quantum/dp/B07C57J7XX
Like you are saying its $150. and its supposed to be as effective as a 300w cfl.
It consumes the same amount of energy as say this: https://www.amazon.com/VIPARSPECTRA-Reflector-Spectrum-Indoor-Plants/dp/B01B4GQ6MO/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=Viparspectra&qid=1555016528&s=lawn-garden&sr=1-3
Which is also supposed to be as effective as a 300w lamp...
Whats the reason behind spending double if I am not gaining anything on performance or efficiency? The one advantage I see is no pink light.
If you have 200$ to spend, get a quantum board. It will outperform blurple light
https://www.amazon.com/Horticulture-Lighting-Group-USA-Quantum/dp/B07C57J7XX/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=hlg+qb&qid=1556636878&s=gateway&sr=8-2
Do yourself a favor and stick with quality QB! The HLGs are fucking amazing. for a 2x2 their 100w board is perfect for flower, and only $150. You can get them in 3000k or 4000k. I have a 550 covering my 4x4 and 3 of the HLG65s covering two smaller tents (2x3 and 2x2)
These
I got this very low profile grow light from Amazon it says 20watts
ACKE LED Grow Light for Indoor Plants,Plant Light for Grow Light Stand,DIY Indoor Growing Light Panel for Germination,Seedling,Vegetative Growth and Flowering https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GGX3R9T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_JgfxDbDCBNXN9
I have this light hanging from a shelf that I use for growing basil indoors: ACKE LED Grow Light for Indoor Plants,Plant Light for Grow Light Stand,DIY Indoor Growing Light Panel for Germination,Seedling,Vegetative Growth and Flowering
https://www.amazon.com/ACKE-Germination-Seedling-Vegetative-Flowering/dp/B07GGX3R9T
You can configure it lengthwise instead of how it’s shown in the picture. And I think you can connect two set together, but don’t know that for sure.
It’s a warm white light which is accomplished by having white and red LEDs
Edit: link
Typically nepenthes aren’t too picky on lighting but a cheap grow light I love(mainly for the low price and simplicity) is the Acke grow light https://www.amazon.com/ACKE-Germination-Seedling-Vegetative-Flowering/dp/B07GGX3R9T/ref=asc_df_B07GGX3R9T/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=242081228138&hvpos=1o3&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9594542324276355578&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9022987&hvtargid=pla-533179316540&psc=1
That’s the “normal light” version, there’s another one that’s super pink. I haven’t noticed much difference in the effectiveness of either.
I've had good luck with this one
A small 20watt LED panel, but one that's NOT blurple since it's on all the time in a living area of the house and I really didn't want to deal with a pink glow in my kitchen all the time.
This is the one I got.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GGX3R9T/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_3FkNDb82DW4C7
ACKE LED Grow Light for Indoor Plants,Plant Light for Grow Light Stand,DIY Indoor Growing Light Panel for Germination,Seedling,Vegetative Growth and Flowering https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GGX3R9T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_p3LYDbDX85QCH
These would work great with your table!!
I use 20w LED lights. Specifically this model:
ACKE LED Grow Light for Indoor Plants,Plant Light for Grow Light Stand,DIY Indoor Growing Light Panel for Germination,Seedling,Vegetative Growth and Flowering https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GGX3R9T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_daXOCb4WJYD91
I switched to LED from fluorescent this year. If you use fluorescent you need to move them to be about 3 inches from the tallest plant so they don’t burnt on the bulb.
With my LED lights I have the plants up to 1 foot away and they aren’t stretching for the light because they offer great lighting for plants.
Does that help? If you like you can check out my channel for a bunch more of pepper related stuff:
www.youtube.com/c/farmergeorge
Let’s Share and Grow Together :)
Its just a little LED light
https://www.amazon.com/KINGBO-Spectrum-Gooseneck-2-Switch-Replaceable/dp/B07LG39B3M?ref_=Oct_CARAsinC_14252941_3&pf_rd_p=bf98d1fc-853a-5849-80d4-b55241de1a6a&pf_rd_s=mobile-hybrid-5&pf_rd_t=30901&pf_rd_i=14252941&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=TS5NP0D8Y3B9QJ44NH4K&pf_rd_r=TS5NP0D8Y3B9QJ44NH4K&pf_rd_p=bf98d1fc-853a-5849-80d4-b55241de1a6a
I currently have a dieffenbachia, peace lily, bromeliads and croton. I’ll use the light for the croton, dieffenbachia and peace lily. I’m considering this light: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LG39B3M/ref=psdc_14252941_t1_B07Q4RQ4V6
Thanks!!!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LG39B3M?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
It’s only 30 for the one I got and it’s really bright
Yes and it’s a little oscillating desk top tower fan hooked up with my timer. These are the lights https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LG39B3M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_-vsQCbE1TJ63M.
Appreciate the advice. I found this on amazon: https://www.amazon.com/KINGBO-Spectrum-Gooseneck-2-Switch-Replaceable/dp/B07LG39B3M/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?keywords=plant+light&qid=1556394641&s=gateway&sr=8-6
Someone in a review has their Heliamphoras and Sundews under it and said they were thriving. Not sure if this would work.
I got them both on amazon! The top lights are: KINGBO Newest 50W Led Grow Light Bulb for Indoor Plants, Super Bright 100 LEDs Sunlike Full Spectrum Grow Lamp White, Dual Head Gooseneck Desk Plant Light with 2-Switch, Replaceable Bulb (2019 Update) https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07LG39B3M/ref=ya_aw_oh_bia_dp?ie=UTF8&psc=1#
The purple lights are: from Brite labs and have a timer with adjustable light intensities
https://www.amazon.com/Brite-Labs/b/ref=bl_dp_s_mw_19491218011?ie=UTF8&node=19491218011&field-lbr_brands_browse-bin=Brite+Labs
Happy planting! 💜
The moisture seems to do alright spreading without the fan. I don't think you would necessarily need it. I use it to increase air flow in order to prevent algae from taking over the tops of the soil on my plants in there and possible mold.
You might want to ask more about lighting from r/mosses since they're better equipped to discuss moss needs than I am. I know that my moss has been fine with this (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07LG39B3M?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title) placed about 10 inches from the moss and turned on for 10 hours a day. But, I have no clue if that's optimal, I just know it works for me.
This is the exact light that I got here:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07LG39B3M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It had a lot of good reviews, and it seemed pretty close to sunlight. So far I think my herbs are doing quite well (my cilantro and dill have really taken off) but I would absolutely love trying to grow fruiting plants like tomatoes or peppers inside if it's at all possible. I live in an apartment in Minnesota with no balcony, so I'd really love to find a good alternative to a yard! :)
I'd love to have a link to your YouTube channel, if you wouldn't mind sending it to me.
Check out EveryThang on YouTube, he has videos on the lights he uses and how echeveria color works.
Grow lights have been a chore to shop for, there are so many variations and the made in china stuff has a wide mix of reviews. The purple ones hurt my eyes (if you have thick or cheap glasses they will be extra bad- double vision), so shopping for white... I’m leaning towards a Sunblaster LED, if I can find one.
They also depend on your setup- can you hang a 4’ tube above your plants? An 18” tube? A single bulb? A clip light? A monster unit with cooling fans built in?
I have a Kingbo 50W led dual-head that stopped etoliation on an echeveria elegans (https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07LG39B3M?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title) but I’m not sure it’s enough to maintain color. Mine is on for 14 hours in a sunny window and my black prince is only green-blackish, so probably not.
Time of the light depends on how strong and how far away it is.
The purple/red and blue lights hurt your eyes so bad after awhile. I would def recommend getting the lights that appear white so your eyes don’t burn off your face. I have the GE grow lights. They have it available on Amazon, but I actually found mine at my local Target. https://www.amazon.com/GE-Lighting-93101230-Horticultural-Balanced/dp/B07NN6SVG6
My apartment has pretty terrible lighting and with fall/winter coming on strong in the Boston area, I decided to put together a little home gardening station to help with lighting and movement of the plants for watering. I went into this with the goal of having my setup accommodate most of my small collection of plants and to allow for easy movement without having to mess with the grow lights. In the end, I decided on a cart-based design composed of the following items:
Bror Utility Cart 33 ½” X 21 ⅝” X 34 ⅝” ($99)
https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/bror-utility-cart-black-pine-plywood-60333850/
Bror Add-on Shelf 21 ⅝” X 6 ¼” X 5 ½” ($10)
https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/bror-add-on-shelf-black-20402001/
Koppla 3 Outlet Power Strip 19 ¾” ($4.99 for two pack)
https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/koppla-3-outlet-power-strip-grounded-white-00086428/
2x Hemma Cord Set, Black 15’ 5” ($7.00 each)
https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/hemma-cord-set-white-10175810/
(IKEA site only has white showing up now, black was available in-store)
2x Luftmassa Lamp Shade 10” ($17.99 each)
https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/luftmassa-lamp-shade-rounded-70462648/
Kasa Smart WiFi Plug Mini HS105 ($21.75)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01K1JVZOE/
Relassy 20 Watt Dual Head, Gooseneck, Full Spectrum Grow Lamp ($27.39)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C68N7PC/
2x GE 9 Watt BR30 Balanced Full Spectrum Bulbs ($9.98 each)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NN6SVG6/
4x 3M Command Utility Hooks 3 lbs ($8.99 for nine)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0751RPD3V/
2x Velcro Thin Ties 8” X ½” ($9.70 for 100)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001E1Y5O6/
Total Cost (pre-tax): $234.76
GE is the best! I have so many.
GE Lighting 93101230 9-Watt BR30 LED Grow Light Bulb for Indoor Plants, Full, Balanced Spectrum https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NN6SVG6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_sJ3ZDb2NX6ZW5
GE Lighting 93101232 32-Watt PAR38 LED Grow Light for Indoor Plants, Full, Balanced Spectrum https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NNT3G7J/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_QK3ZDb65S42K7
Reddit seems to have a particular hangup with calathea but so far mine have been behaving.
I get fairly good light in my apartment but being in the Northeast I wanted to supplement for winter. I actually just use a balanced spectrum grow bulb in a hanging lamp I built with parts from Amazon. I didn't like the look of anything so made my own.
Rustic State Industrial Retro Style Mesh Wire Cage for Pendant Ceiling Lamp (White) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0786X9FBH/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ahGTDb6PWDP3M
GE Lighting 93101230 9-Watt BR30... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NN6SVG6?
My Monstera perked up even more throughout the day today, so I remain hopeful for both of our battered plants!
I'm still figuring out grow lights myself so I don't think I'm the best person to ask for recommendations. I've tried to "research" it on YouTube but the best videos on grow lights don't focus on household/LED use, the videos are definitely more for folks growing pot (which is cool, no hate, but they're talking about different types of lights, different scale production etc.). So I can show you what I bought that's been working but I'm far from an expert.
If you have a spare lamp, you can use this guy, this is what I have right now that I screwed into an old cheapo adjustable-neck desk lamp from Target: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NN6SVG6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It is not an attractive setup but my crown of thorns, Euphorbia trigona, Albuca spiralis, and my succulent bowl are all doing well under it. My succulent bowl has calico hearts, an elephant food plant, an Echeveria elegans, a blue barrel cactus, and a goat's horn cactus. So yeah they're all doing pretty well at the moment despite the average temperature in my house dropping 10 degrees over the past 6 weeks.
I just bought this and it arrives tomorrow. There are options that have built-in timers but I already had a couple of Ikea light timers floating around so I'm using those (and I 1000% recommend a timer so you don't even have to think about it--my light turns on before I get up and turns off before I get home from work, shit's mad convenient): https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Q8GMRWB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I tried to find a clip-on grow light like that made in USA (or at least not in China) but I wasn't able to find one. (I've been trying to reduce the number of products I buy made in China in support of the protests in HK/in protest of the Uighur imprisonments.. not that anyone will notice though!) Turns out American-made grow lights are out of my price range at the moment, and mainly of such a size they're clearly for commercial operations. When I'm earning more and buy a house in the next couple of years I'd like to treat myself to a couple shop-style lights though. That would be cool
600w hps with a fan and filter. you're going to want a fan and filter regardless of the lights you use, and the 600 hps will beat those two panels at a fraction of the cost. just duct the exhausted air out of a window and you won't be running much hotter than the leds.
if you're dead-set on led, look into cobs or go with a couple cheaper panels imo. maybe a couple of these. the ones you linked are really expensive and aren't going to be enough light for that 4x4 tent.
when I upgrade should I go for a 300w or the 600w?
The purple led grow lights are actually a mixture of the spectrums. You can do it with cfls but its very hard, a lot of energy, and heat. Ive used anything from cfl, to 150w hps, to a 300w ufo led setup. The led setup was the best and yes it was purple.
Whats the spectrum of those bulbs and what phase of growing is it?
This is 50$
https://www.amazon.com/Rolledro-Lights-Indoor-Spectrum-Hydroponics/dp/B00RWYCRB2/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1541798543&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=ufo+led&psc=1
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