(Part 3) Best gun & ammunition storage & safes according to redditors

You need one of these at least.

If there was a god, MAT-49 kits would still exist to fill out the authentic Indo-china loadout.

If you're truly aiming dead center before your shot, and then missing, it is most likely because you are anticipating the recoil of the shot and flinching, consequently pulling your shot off target. [This is what I'm talking about] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7-Xk3wg2iA)

Dry firing helped reduce my shooter anticipation/flinch immensely. When I go to the range I actually dry fire each target 3 times while watching my front sight, making sure I don't pull it off target during my trigger pull. I do probably 30-40ish dry fires before I even put any live ammo in my gun.

I would recommend getting some of [these snap caps] (https://www.amazon.com/Azoom-45-ACP-Caliber-Snap/dp/B000U430Y4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1499923454&sr=8-2&keywords=a+zoom+45+snap+caps) and doing 50-100 trigger pulls a day until you pull the trigger without any movement in the front sight as the hammer falls.

$24.99 on Amazon right now too.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077N55R2N/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_N8B4CbV785SAQ

Ya’ll know I’m budget minded.

This is the insert https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00X81D98S/

Fits any 50 cal ammo can, I’m using this one in particular https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0051F905U


About $25 and I like it better than a pelican case. Not as protective of course, but thats not a feature I really need. The PickandPluck pissed me off because it started getting compressed over time or just picking itself. This isn't as perfect as something custom cut but it's really great, I use the old pick and pluck pieces as spacers to make up for the height differences

I've been using these daily for a few weeks now with G19 and G43 mags. Super comfortable, forget that it's there when I place it in the opposite "appendix" carry crease to where my gun is (11 o'clock). Works at 7-9 o'clock for me too. I've shot at the range with it, mags come out easy, holder stays on my belt. G43 mags take a little bit more finesse to get out, but with the pinky extensions I have on them it's not too bad. Are they the fastest most reliable reload option out there, no. Are they super convenient, comfortable, and cheap, yes.

2-Pack Universal Magazine Holster... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FM39LNB?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

I like the MTM Stuff!

Link - http://www.amazon.com/MTM-ACC9-Combo-Holds-Rounds/dp/B00I8NJLS8

Get somthing like this. Shotshell is a diferent animal than metalic cartridges.

> American Weigh Digital Scale, 100g [0.01g sensitivity $10.42 Qty: 1

You probably want to go with something that displays in grains, otherwise you'll need to convert all of measurements from grams/oz. I use this one and it is ok.

You're gonna mess up.


You'll probably also want some way to store / carry the rounds you've made.


I'd also recommend a case gauge. I don't remember which one I bought, lyman maybe? ABCs of reloading too, if you haven't read that yet.

k, let me go though one by one.

>I have hollow points (Federal HST) filled up on both mags. (Is this a good idea, or does it eventually mess up the magazine springs?

Depends on who you ask. If you ask someone that understands basic metallurgy, no it doesn't mess them up. Puting springs in and out of stress are what wears them out - keeping them in a static state does not.

That said, environmental changes can induce/reduce stress and if they are already under stress it can over many years wear them out.

Bottom line, if you're in 90% of CA and you have basically two seasons - you can keep them loaded for a solid 20 years before needing to think twice about it.

>Should ammo be locked up as well? Currently have them stored loose in a small ammo can.

At their age, I would be more worried about the rounds being a choking hazard more than anything. As long as the rounds are in an ammo can that isn't something a small kid can open or they are in a closet they can get in, you're good. Once they are older it just depends on the kids and their level of dumbassness.

>biometric lock box

People try to pretend these are good but they just fecking arent. Batteries fail. Period. Don't depend on that crap.

This is hands down my recomidation

It won't keep someone dedicated out, the combination only has a little over 1,000 options so it isn't exactly super duper hard to brute force the code. But your kid would have to be motivated to do it.

You won't have to even think about that issue for another 12 or so years and until then, this is a top tier option for speed and reliability.

>If I need to get to my gun, I need to get the key first, which is attached to my car keys, open the box, insert a mag and chamber a round.

Personally, I store my HD gun "cruiser ready". Mag inserted, no round in the chamber. I don't ever want to fuck around with a mag in the middle of the night. Just grab, rack, go.

I've made several battery powered speaker boxes this past year. Some selling for around $400, some for about $80. I have a few tips for you if interested;

Try a smaller Amp.. That car head unit is sucking waaaayyy too much power than it needs. Also, they are what, 200w? (50w x 4)? That nuts.. Try this little guy and be amazed at it's efficiency. I can clock in anywhere from 10-20 hours a charge with that amp, depending on loudness.

Maybe a cheaper/easier solution for a case too. I've used these and love them. If you get a bassy song, they might rumble a bit.. Depends on your speakers, If you have foam, etc..

Try to separate the channels. A lot of music is recorded in true stereo and might sound strange when built in a box that combines left and right.

Have fun man!! Make more, put them on Etsy.

Unless somebody has bolt cutters or a dremel they aren’t going to be able to get through the steel cable quickly. I take it out of my car when I’m at home. It’s on me unless I’m in a gun free zone. Pretty small window of opportunity to be stolen. If the car is stolen I’m SOL.

Something like this.

SnapSafe Treklite Lock Box - XL, Key Lock https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XRD61CC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_rn67BbAQ4D3E5

They also have MTM ACR7-18 Ammo Crate Utility Box on sale for $11.49, but it is OOS. You have to change seller to Amazon. This is also the lowest historic price per CamelCamelCamel.

In addition to MTM AC4C Ammo Crate (4-Can for $24.99 which is also the lowest historic price from Amazon

Don't let your dreams be your dreams.

I understand the perspective. I also know that kids can get to places you think they can’t.

Maybe at 3 she can’t but eventually she will be able to ge there. Do not instill bad habits in yourself. Keep it locked up all the time. Practice getting into your vault.

Buy this

It has a simplex lock that is secure and can be opened by feel in the dark. You said it’s up high so this is the horizontal opening one. They also have a top opening one of you prefer. Heavy gauge metal and can be bolted down.

Please do not leave your fault unlocked with kids around. One day you will forget to lock it back up. One day your kid will be able to get to it. That will be before you think.

Shotgun shell bandolier. 56 rounds. Or in this case 56 15ml bottles for dripping on the go. Not sure which you want to carry out with you? Carry them ALL!

This is what I use for my nightstand pistol Amazon - GunVault

Works great, can open it in the dark and no finicky fingerprint scanner (Though they have one with that option). Goes great in a drawer.

This would work good under the bed or on a closet shelf.

As far as what to use for a rifle... something like This under the bed or behind the headboard maybe?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0075QMCNK?pc_redir=1405065968&robot_redir=1

Personally, I think leaving it in a car is a terrible idea.

But if you're gonna do it anyways, a solid safe that is SECURELY bolted down is better than shoved in a glovebox.

Also, that's just The first well-reviewed one to come up after a quick and dirty search. Someone with more experience at this... Situation... Can possibly chime in with a better example.

Practice, practice, practice. Concentrate on your trigger pull and grip. Also you may be flinching. Have someone load your mag for you and mix some dummy rounds into the mag randomly. You will notice your gun dip when you fire the dummy rounds if you are flinching.

Fort Knox or the Vline Brute is what I use.

I use these: http://www.amazon.com/Gun-Storage-Solutions-Original-Handgun/dp/B0068NHG7S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1375423573&sr=8-1&keywords=pistol+hangers

Edit: Thanks for reminding me that I needed some more!

What's wrong with paper? People have dug up time capsules from over a century ago containing fully legible letters. And nowadays, we have waterproof paper as well.

If you don't trust a printer, you can always write down a BIP38 encrypted key on to a piece of waterproof paper, laminate it, and bury it in something like this.

Got your back Jack.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00551HARU

A couple notes about it:

1. it's not adjustable, not sure if you need it to be, just saying. But the size is pretty nice
   
   2)They do fit perfectly, unless they don't have a neck, the 3rd pic shows the two bottles that couldn't fit because they were too big
   
   Enjoy!

Fort Knox Pistol Safe - I recently bought one and it has been great. Conveniently has predrilled holes for mounting and no batteries to worry about. You pay a little more but the steel is thicker than most.

Maybe this just for fun

Pick up a bunch of stripper clips for it as well.

A sling, if he doesn't have one yet.

That stuff should get you around $50, including shipping. Spend the rest on ammo.

If I'm reading it correctly, this one gives you the option of bypassing that electronic lock bullshit and just using a key.

Personally, I'd go with it based solely on that.

Seguramente no conoces la V-Line Brute Heavy Duty Safe o la Fort Knox FTK-PB Simplex. Son muy buenas, échales un ojo.

Here is an Amazon link

I'm curious if anyone has any ideas on making a foam insert for this

MTM AC3C 3-Can Ammo Crate (.50 Caliber) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077N55R2N/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_WlwDCbCRGC42K

Just need to select 1 size

I buy my ammo in loose bulk. It's cheaper and I use this reusable organizer set I got for $40 to sort it into 100rnd boxes.

Shallow Version
MTM ACR4-18

Deep Version
MTM ACR7-18

Works a treat with 18-round Elite mags, too.

These work well if your bed is raised, but large / extra large BD toys won’t fit. I also use ammo boxes here

Not quite as a humid in my place, but I store all my ammo in these plastic ammo crates. They're strong, you can padlock em if you want, and if you're concerned about humidity then throw a desiccant pack or two in there.

https://www.amazon.com/MTM-ACR7-18-Ammo-Crate-Utility/dp/B01CNP4HOY/ref=pd_bxgy_200_img_2/132-2139922-6297007?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01CNP4HOY&pd_rd_r=a7cdd51d-b754-46c3-8868-c3c7e9bf9d49&pd_rd_w=FAn7R&pd_rd_wg=OmmJb&pf_rd_p=a2006322-0bc0-4db9-a08e-d168c18ce6f0&pf_rd_r=63J3HQAZ42YMNJK038JS&psc=1&refRID=63J3HQAZ42YMNJK038JS

> I'd like to put it under the bed

V-line then, and replace tubular locks in the corners with Abloy.

Yeah, you're comparing a 5 day food supply to 30 day food supply. Even if we assume the extras are useful, it's not a good deal.

A cursory look on Amazon yields:
9 day worth of SOS Rations, $20.45 (vs 5 days)
Ammo Box, $5.98
100 Aquatabs, $9.90 (vs 10)
10 1-gallon mylar pouches, $8.99 (vs 1 small bag)
Similarly stocked survival tin, $15.50

Now I already have more things and I'm only at around $60.

The ammo can looks to be one of the MTM .50 cal ammo cans. The one I linked is a crate set, but you can get them individually.

https://www.amazon.com/TACwolf-Waistband-Concealed-Universal-Springfield/dp/B07H3RPL8D/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=magazine+pouch&qid=1565408135&s=gateway&sr=8-3

https://www.amazon.com/Universal-Magazine-Holster-Ammunition-Holsters/dp/B07FM39LNB/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=magazine+pouch&qid=1565408206&s=gateway&sr=8-4

Maxracing Short Aluminum Antenna... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FM39LNB?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Amazon.com: MTM SAC Survivor Ammo Can for $17.49 plus Silica Gel Desiccants for $10.99. And maybe a Fiskars Long Handle Digging Shovel for $24.99.

Nice, glad you had a good time, and ripping jeans while going commando while going commando on your first outing in airsoft is the stuff of instant legend.

As for the advice; I'm still too noob to speak with much authority (my first game is this weekend), but I at least have been gearing up a bit this season while biding my time. I'd recommend a good battle belt and then either one or a pair of drop-leg pouches over those climbing harnesses. Unless you plan to go fast-roping any time soon, a climbing harness won't be very functional, and it won't do much to keep the crotch of your pants intact if that's what you're worried about. Drop-leg pouches, on the other hand, are removable if you're not using them, and drop-leg platforms come with molle strips you can mount whatever gear you want on them, making them configurable too.

Plus, bonus no crotch-flossing or wedgie-inducing load-bearing straps running down the middle that are the bane of my masculine existence whenever I have to put one on.

Edit: Note, the above links are more for reference than as specific product recommendations.

Pro-tip when dry firing - put a penny on the end of your muzzle/slide (near your front sight) and pull your trigger. It shouldn't fall if you are doing it right...Next level (much harder) - use a spent casing instead of the penny.

This has greatly improved my trigger pull, personally. The best way I heard it described was like this: think of your time spent at home doing practice draws and dry fire drills as studying and then your range time is the test. I use to view range time as actual practice time, but now I realize how much you can work on at home too.

Also, not all snap caps are created equally - I prefer the a-zoom ones myself, as they have a little rubber piece where the primer would be that your striker pin can hit. I used to use the all plastic ones, but they would eventually crack and left plastic crap all up in my pistol. And who wants to have to clean the weapon from just dry firing? No bueno.

But yeah, cheers to your new weapon! She's a beauty ;-)

You could spend god knows how much on Pelican cases, or you could get a plastic ammo can for like $16.

Plano 1312 Ammo Box https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005IURN5M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_JJWMzbG4T0B5W

Best way to save space for my small 14 gun safe

The fort [knox] (https://www.amazon.com/Fort-Knox-Personal-Pistol-Safe/dp/B0075QMCNK/ref=pd_sim_200_6?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0075QMCNK&pd_rd_r=Z5TT4C8B28NQ5P2B2BR3&pd_rd_w=TyI32&pd_rd_wg=ghM7u&psc=1&refRID=Z5TT4C8B28NQ5P2B2BR3) pistol boxes are pretty good as far as these go. Bolt them to the floor though!

Low profile:

Claw Gear KD One Belt

HSGI Pistol TACO 2x with rifle, 4x if running Glock Primary

HSGI Rifle TACO 2x or none if running Glock Primary

Dump Pouch

Holster

Molle Adapter, optional

Knee Pads, optional

Allows me to be a speedy boi.

Only downside is no nipple protection.

ninja edit: doormatting

Sorry you had to learn that lesson the hard way.

Would these Snap Caps have helped?

Maybe Glocks are different but you shouldn't do that without one of these in the chamber. https://www.amazon.com/Azoom-45-ACP-Caliber-Snap/dp/B000U430Y4

PEW PEWWW

Under CA law:
If you leave your gun laying around and a child obtains your firearm and uses it, you will be convicted of a crime. This does not apply if your child breaks into your safe (seriously... here's a link http://law.justia.com/codes/california/2013/code-pen/part-6/title-4/division-4/chapter-2/section-25105).

I don't think CA has given us any requirements (i.e. thickness of metal, type of lock, etc.) to what 'locked container' means.

I would go with something that is fully enclosed, has a combo lock (so you don't have to find a key at 3AM), that your child can't realistically get into, and can be bolted to something.

Here are a few that I like.

1. https://www.amazon.com/GunVault-SV500-SpeedVault-Handgun-Safe/dp/B006OGNLKA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1481427521&sr=8-2&keywords=velocityvault
   
   
2. https://www.amazon.com/SHOT-LOCK-1911-Handgun-Solo-Vault/dp/B009OGLG04/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1481428075&sr=8-8&keywords=shotlock
   
   
3. https://www.amazon.com/Fort-Knox-Original-Handgun-Pistol/dp/B00V6TDX4E/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1481428101&sr=8-3&keywords=fort+knox
   
   There are reviews all over youtube for all of these models. Good luck!

I’ve been thinking of getting some of these since there’s several containers that you can label depending on load, and then they all fit nice and neat into a bigger can. Reviews say build quality is solid in them too. I’d imagine the plastic is still gonna kinda bulge and warp a little when it’s fully loaded, but you can’t get around that unless you have metal cans.

For super cheap, water-resistant storage, you could grab one of these and throw some silica packets in, then lock it with a padlock.

I'd try here: http://www.amazon.com/Lyman-Shotshell-Handbook-5Th-Edition/dp/B00162MK2M

https://www.amazon.com/V-Line-Quick-Access-Keyless-42-Inch/dp/B000T2A6BW

https://www.shotlock.com/ShotLock_AR.php

Found this one as well: https://www.amazon.com/SnapSafe-Treklite-Lock-Box-Key/dp/B06XRD61CC/ref=sr_1_7

You might be able to jury rig one out of this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0082CWBCI?keywords=drop%20leg%20platform&qid=1450164222&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

That said, it'll probably hit your arm as you try to walk around.

Another option is to go with a soft leather back quiver (like a Howard hill style quiver). It'll compress against your back and hold the arrows in place so it doesn't rattle around when you're moving!

I used to use a hydration pack on a back harness as a quiver as well: http://imgur.com/nX6YQUz

It did the job well of holding the arrows in place and for $30, it was a darn good quiver. The only problem is that the arrows sat high on my back so trying to get through trees/brush was an absolute nightmare as the arrows snagged onto every low hanging branch

https://www.amazon.com/Chinese-Bandoleer-Bandolier-Cartridge-Ammunition/dp/B0058PBJ0W

https://www.amazon.com/Military-Bandoleer-Bandolier-Cartridge-Ammunition/dp/B00FW70E7K

MTM AC3C 3-Can Ammo Crate (.50... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077N55R2N?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

>a ton of husks, wads, and no.4 shot I picked up for peanuts at a garage sale. I also have an old original lee load all 12ga press.

>My question is what primers/powder is recommended for loading this?


Doesn't quite work that way. You need to work with an established recipe.

What kind of hulls are they? What kind of wads? That makes a big difference in the powder/primer suggestion.

Your best bet to to by the Lyman book http://www.amazon.com/Lyman-Shotshell-Handbook-5Th-Edition/dp/B00162MK2M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1376656361&sr=8-1&keywords=lyman+shotshell

Yugo M67 is the best surplus

Chinese bandoliers are everywhere

Any IWB/OWB mag pouch on weak side. Something similar to this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FM39LNB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Gjm2DbXJRVNKD

You must not be looking too hard. This was like the 3rd result on Amazon

Best Choice Products Large 5-Rifle Firearm Steel Digital Storage Gun Safe Cabinet w/Electronic Lock - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FJ46POG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_0fF5Bb659CARA

Cardio Cardio Cardio. And some tac gear is not a bad thing if you are aware of how to use it. I recommend this guy. It is easy to modify with some longer velcro straps to fit any clip size. And that tac vest has some room for expansion. I also have this dump pouch.

I've also got a workout guide to get you in shape and ready for some running Here. I wrote this for me and it has already started but you should be able to catch up.

And make sure you have fun and lots of it.

I bought one of these, and it works quite well. Enough room for my gun (Glock 43) and a spare mag. It has removable layers of foam to increase the depth of the storage area so I am able to store the gun in the holster so I don’t ever expose my trigger, even when storing my gun. The plastic/rubber exterior is nice too because it is super strong, but non-slip and if it does hit something, won’t cause as much damage as a metal exterior. I ran the cable around the bars that hold my trunk on my car making it secure and easily accessible for storage/removal.

Edit: They sell different size ones to fit different storage needs. The XL is just what I have.

SnapSafe

I don't run a dump pouch, so I have no personal experience. However, VISM makes a dump pouch. It's able to fit 8 18 round stick mags.

Dunno anything about the manufacturer. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01FJ46POG/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1519346744&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gun+safe&dpPl=1&dpID=31XKAsWjptL&ref=plSrch

Hey /u/LockPickingLawyer,

Thanks for making all these cool videos. I just wanted to share my appreciation for your work and your professionalism.

It's always enjoyable to watch you put your impressive lock picking skill to work.

I was wondering if you were planning on trying to defeat Gun Boxes/Safes. You have a series about gun locks but I haven't seen you tackle gun safes.

I recently bought the V-Line Brute and it seems very solid. I would be very curious to see you (or bosnianbill) try to defeat this gun safe, even with destructive tools.

The only flaw that I can currently see is the Simplex Lock with the low number of possible combinations. It is very solidly made. Once bolted down, I think power tools would be needed to defeat it.

Anyways, keep up the good work and thanks a lot for your contributions. And as always, have a nice day!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0082CWBCI/ref=od_aui_detailpages02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Left leg had an extra molle pouch attached, right leg had a holster I made for the smart pistol

thanks, just found the Lyman Shotshell Handbook 5th Edition for under $20.00

Yep. I've got the smaller version of this one (It opens from the front rather than the top) and it's outstanding. I cannot recommend it enough. $199 shipped from Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Fort-Knox-FTK-PN-Personal-Handgun/dp/B0075QMCNK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1406919339&sr=8-2&keywords=Fort+Knox+pistol+safe

I'd consider printing the vital stuff out and keeping it somewhere safe, where you have a copy that isn't too hard to retrieve, and a copy placed in a cache somewhere that may take hours to retrieve... but will be accessible.

Update : got this. V-Line Quick Access Keyless Long Gun Safe (Black, 42-Inch) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000T2A6BW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_wO.wxbTQ4WVB7


Tavor barely fits with optic on. But it won't fit if you have a light or something on the side rail. Too wide. Will post pics if there is interest

I’m not sure how much cargo you’re looking to organize, but I use an ammo can I got on Amazon for $10. It holds a tow rope, air pump, jumper cables and some other gear. You could use two if you needed a lot of space. They’re waterproof and can go in the back if you need some extra space.

Specifically, I bought this one.

I made a wooden insert with multiple cuts on it for rifles and covered it in felt. For pistols I bought these hangers:

https://www.amazon.com/Gun-Storage-Solutions-Original-Handgun/dp/B0068NHG7S


They work awesome and have cleared up a ton of space on the inside!

okay I was thinking this http://www.evike.com/products/25127/
as a helmet instead of the hat
heres a sling http://www.amazon.com/Yahill-Multi-Use-Adjustable-Outdoor-Hunting/dp/B017SET58I/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1464677823&sr=8-3&keywords=tactical+sling

a doublestrike holster https://www.hobbymods.net/products/custom3dnerf-doublestrike-holster

note:that backpack is barely a pound with all the gear in it im fine

I know ill prob buy a raider stock for that
a dump pouch
http://www.amazon.com/VISM-NcStar-Folding-Pouch-Black/dp/B007OZHIZO/ref=sr_1_3?s=hunting-fishing&ie=UTF8&qid=1464623878&sr=1-3&keywords=dump+pouch
im on the line about that tbh with the roughcut I have one but the sledgefire can handle rush's very well lets say someone is hiding behind cover out of ammo and I cover them and someone goes for a flank at 15 ft whould you rather have curved darts fly and hopefully circle back in for a hit or a triangle shaped projectile that goes straight that very hard to dodge but the roughcut you can just slamfire 8 darts into someone switch out do your double strike and do what you were doing

I know it's not the question you asked, but related. This pouch fits a 35 drum perfectly. It's almost like it was made for it. The bottom is flat too, so it's not awkward or anything.
http://www.amazon.com/VISM-NcStar-Folding-Pouch-Black/dp/B007OZHIZO?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00

I use this inside my nightstand draw bolted down. Gunbot for ammo.

1. Store your shit in something with a gasket seal, like an ammo can or some ridiculously expensive camera case.
   
2. Keep a carbon filter locked with it.
   
3. Exhale into a smoke buddy or sploofy.
   Good luck.

I like this one.

since you dont know the type of any of the componets you already have start from here. Start sticking to the loads listed and eventually you will learn what you can and cant change safely. A Lymans shotshell manual is great for learning process and tech information. It also has more load data than you can shake a stick at.

[Get one] (http://www.amazon.com/Sports-Shotgun-Shell-Bandolier-Rounds/dp/B00551HARU/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1405823453&sr=8-2-fkmr1&keywords=Team+fortress+2+heavy+bandolier) with no bullets but with large enough holes like shotgun shells. Then try to make bullets from relatively inexpensive materials like cardboard and paper, say like a paper rocket.

I use this for a bedside safe. Quick & reliable, but a teenager could get in with enough time. Fort Knox Box.

Thanks, I got the ammo can from Amazon, here's the link I'm very happy with the quality, especially for the decent price.

Some of these might help

I use this- very affordable and fits both wife and my pistols, together.

SnapSafe Treklite Lock Box - XL, Key Lock
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XRD61CC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_6OQKBb53PQTSH

https://www.amazon.com/MTM-SAC-Survivor-Ammo-Can/dp/B00AU67M5K

I don't see any specific recommendations for a safe, so wanted to make two specific ones. I have used and love both. Both are simplex style locking systems.

• VLine's The Brute
  
  • Box-style; good to have it sit in one place. Holes in the bottom so you can screw it into the floorboards if you want (get it into joists). Surprisingly heavy duty for its size.
    
    
• Solo Vault M 200
  
  • Slightly lighter weight than the brute, with the ability to be chained to things. Can be used to store locked up in a car, for example. If you get a chain, get a heavy duty one and a heavy duty lock with a long ish loop, put the lock loop through both ends of the chain and the designated hole in the box (it should make sense once you see the box, so maybe get box and look at it before getting a chain).
    
    
    Simplex locks are very reliable, but they also have a finite number of codes. A clever person with a ton of time on their hands could exhaustively try all codes to get in eventually. So they are not foolproof (no safe is), so you need to bear that in mind and be vigilant.
    
    Both are excellent and I think nearly the best for your purpose. I'd actually lean towards the M200 for your purpose.
    
    Finally, as I'm sure many have said, a safe is not a set-and-forget thing if you have a child. You must also teach your child about dangers of firearms. (It sounds like this has been said plenty by others so I'll leave it at that).
    
    
    ps ALSO, a Ruger SP101s are excellent, high-quality firearms - you made a great choice for a revolver and should not experience the problems you describe. As others have indicated, Ruger customer service is some of the best in the business. Contact them and they should help you out.
    

along the same line as what he said just a different brand https://www.amazon.com/V-Line-Brute-Heavy-Quick-Access/dp/B00K20E8S8 they both will server you well

It's this safe. I can easily cut it open with a grinder, but I'd rather keep it working.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01FJ46POG?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_yo_pop_mb_pd_t2

Rifle is my preferred tool. Pistol is for there’s someone already inside, rifle is for them beating on the door. I can use my pistol to fight to my rifle in a safe that uses a key. They also make quick access long gun safes. You can open this in 2 seconds or less: https://www.amazon.com/V-Line-31242-SA-Access-Keyless-42-Inch/dp/B000T2A6BW