(Part 2) Best tower computers according to redditors

My dude, I'm being legit with this, If it's just going to be an email, photo and video center with the occasional taxes, why spend so much time and money? Just get a cheap prebuilt and call it a day.

It'll save them hundreds, do what they need and keep you from being blamed for everything bad happening.

Here cheap Optiplex with 1 tb of storage and 8 gigs of ram and Windows 10

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K0GNUOG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_a3L2Cb03B269F

This has better specs for the same price

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but I guess the RGB does give you 20 extra fps in games.

Very similar deal to what was recently posted from CYBERPOWER on Amazon. You give up multicolor RGB, water cooling, and a 2TB HDD. You get $50 off, single color RGB, 1TB HDD, and a faster CPU (3.2GHz v 3.7GHz)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GG62872/ref=s9_acsd_bw_wf_a_BTSmainw_mdl

I'm a PC idiot and also having trouble making my own post so I don't mean to hijack yours but how does this one look/compare:

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-580-148/dp/B076BR99G3/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1521129033&sr=1-1&keywords=HP+Pavilion+Power+Gaming+Desktop+Computer%2C+AMD+Ryzen+5+1400%2C+NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+1060%2C+16GB+RAM%2C+1TB+hard+drive%2C+128GB+SSD%2C+Windows+10+%28580-148%2C+Black%29

https://www.newegg.com/p/1VK-0001-4S7R8?Item=9SIACAGA170269

Here's another option with more RAM and a better CPU in the same price bracket. Either would be fine for Minecraft. Good luck! You're a good parent.

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-OptiPlex-7010-Minitower-Desktop/dp/B01K0GNUOG/ref=sr_1_13?keywords=desktop+PC&qid=1570391136&sr=8-13

Here's another similar option for less as well.

https://www.amazon.com/HP-ProDesk-600-G1-SFF/dp/B07BCGW85X/ref=sr_1_19?keywords=desktop+pc&qid=1570391462&sr=8-19

Here's a pretty thrifty option with a 4th gen i5. Ultimately, this is what I'd go with. If you're savvy, toss an SSD into them later on the cheap.

Type|Amazon|3rd Party New
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Lowest|$799.00 on Sep 06, 2018|$1,049.99 on Aug 28, 2018
Highest|$1,399.00 on Jul 16, 2018|$1,299.11 on Aug 19, 2018

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https://www.amazon.com/Performance-Desktop-G11CD-WB51-GeForce-processor/dp/B01K1JWCAK/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1506619487&sr=8-8&keywords=vr+ready+1070 829.99 with free shipping

This Dell i5 8400 8GB Ram GTX 1060 3GB



Or this
HP Ryzen 1400 8GB Ram RX 580 4GB

The same computer with a 1070 is $830 on amazon right now. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K1JWCAK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_XJeRzbZ2M9PBY

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-580-130/dp/B075LVK78B/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519258772&sr=8-1&keywords=HP+Power+Pavilion+580-130+Gaming

1 left i stock for $690 on amazon prime

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Hey there, Kramjam. I am in the midst of the same process looking in a similar price range. I am sick of always being disappointed in my gaming experience. I have used budget(ish) laptops and am now switching over to pre-built desktops for some true gaming with room to easily grow as gaming evolves. I thought it'd be helpful to write out my top choices.

I have found some good deals and have listed them. I am debating waiting until after Thanksgiving to see if there are any better offers. I have to decide soon, I guess!

This HP Omen 7700 GTX NVIDIA 1070. $1055.55 on Amazon now. It's the lower end of my spectrum but I think a great value. I am looking at 1080 and 8700 ideally but this is a mighty fine desktop and a huge jump for me. The brand name is helpful here too. Don't know about wifi connect.

I am leaning towards the iBUYPOWER 8700k GTX 1070 Ti. $1,399 Amazon. Great reviews, good value, and nice add-ons. I don't need a lighting remote but that's neat to have. Liquid cooling is also pretty cool (ha!). Good specs, good price, nice accessories, can't complain.

ABS 8700 GTX 1080. $1349.99 Newegg. This almost made it an easy search for me. GTX 1080 plus a great price. My biggest concern is reliability. A few bad reviews on Newegg scared me off and I think this is even their in-house brand. The customer service seems good enough from some research but I would rather not have any problems at all. If you want to roll the dice, I think this is the best value you can find. They also do a 1060 and 1070 for lower prices as you should see in the link. This is it's bigger, badder brother running 1080Ti and 8700k at $1,749.99.

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cyberpowerpc AMD Ryzen 2700 but NVIDIA RTX 2070. $1,449 Amazon. I having been leaning Intel so not a fan of AMD. This system is 3.2 GHz 8 core whereas the Intel 7700, like in the HP Omen, is 3.6 GHz 6 core. But an RTX 2070 in a prebuild desktop for only $1,449 is ridiculous from my research. It's overkill for what I am using now and I would like a better processor but I thought I would put it here for you.

cyberpowerpc Intel 8700k NVIDIA GTC 1070 Ti. $1,549 Amazon. Same stats as the iBuypower but for $150 more. I guess I like the design more than the i.b.p. but I'd rather save the $150. Maybe post-Thanksgiving will shake this price down??

SKyTech 8700k GTX 1080. $1,549.99. 1070 Ti is $1,499.99. Amazon. Looks great in terms of specs, reviews, even looks and add-ons. I would choose this over the cyberpowerpc above. Has some more customizable options too. But based on our budget, I think you would be better suited for the HP Omen or the iBuypower.

Tl;DR

The HP Omen and iBUYPOWER options listed are my two top choices but all of these made it to my final list. I think another $350 for a better processor, slightly better graphics, and better add-ons makes the iBUYPOWER worth it. Even if the name is terrible...

I hope this helps! Please share any of your insights as well.


Edit: I included the differences in specs most important to me. All have at least 240 GB SSD and some have 2 instead of 1 TB of HDD. All of 16 GB of memory and Windows 10.

Not sure why they'd throw a 9900K with a 2070... i mean the price isnt God awful... but if you want to save some money I'd go with THIS ONE... quite a bit cheaper and still has a 2070... will fare just fine for the greater majority of things.

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Edit: the one thing that I'd be careful with on this one is the RAM that it comes with... seems to come with 2400mhz ram... not sure how much you know about RYZEN but RAM speed matters a lot more for them compared to Intel... If you go for this computer... I'd probably take the ram out and sell it and throw in something like this. The processor will run MUCH better with that ram and youll probably only have to spend about $40-$50 more after you sell the ram that the computer comes with

Besides the SSD, how does something like this compare to a more standard build like you’ve provided?

How good of a deal is that Asus prebuilt?

https://www.amazon.com/Performance-Desktop-G11CD-WB51-GeForce-processor/dp/B01K1JWCAK/ref=lp_16352389011_1_18?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1502747601&sr=1-18&th=1

This is a better deal at the same price ($799)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D5S3LZM

proper link

>gtx 750ti

This used to be a good card. Keyword being used to.

For that budget, the "exterminator" will do well. Switch the GPU to a RX480 if prices are acceptable where you are.

Show him the builds!

Let's go with an optiplex
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K0GNUOG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_vEh0CbEN87DKA

Slam a gpu in there https://m.newegg.com/product/N82E16814202283?m_ver=1

And a new PSU
https://m.newegg.com/p/pl?d=corsair%20cxm%20450w&N=-1&SortType=8&m_ver=1

Take this information and run it through pcpartpicker and /r/buildapc to have everyone check for compatibility. We need the hive mind for this one.

For $425 USD, that's a really shitty CPU it comes with. Get this much newer and better i5-7400 for the same price. They'll play low end games but barely, you could possibly throw in a dedicated GPU at some point later on (depending on how easy the power supply is to replace.)

it's not worth getting prebuilt

This PC isnt too bad for price. slightly over the budget, however, you're getting a i7

just from looking at Ibuypowers site, you wouldn't get anywhere near the performance you should be getting at this price point.

This is what you should be looking for at your price point


CPU - i5 8400,ryzen 5 2600,i5 8600k, ryzen 5 2600x or i7 8700

GPU - RX 580,1060 3gb, 1060 6gb,RX 590 or 1070

RAM - 16gb 2666mHz, 16gb 3000mHz or 16gb 3200mHz

Storage- 1TB Hardrive +120gb SSD, 1tb Hardrive + 240gb SSD, 2tb Hardrive + 120gb SSD or 2tb + 240gb SSD

if they don't have the items from these categories, then don't get it.

this one is vastly better.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D5S3LZM/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-FX-8320-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1800X/1983vs3916

It's another builder, but this is probably what he was talking about.

Get an external hd for backups of you don't have one already.

Check this channel and get something nice.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCss3QxegBkF8BAetIo0qXA

Midrange extreme value. 580 dlls.
Rx 480 or others
R5 2600
16gb ram.
https://youtu.be/p9daTy901MA

My high end pick; 1380 usd.
I7 9700k.
Tb nvme ssd
16 ddr4
Rtx 2070.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07VFFCQ6L/ref=psdcmw_13896597011_t1_B07KSXZFY7




I would set 1070 performance levels as standard. (1070 is cheap and bang for buck, but maybe consider an rtx with 8gb vram if you have the money)

if your gpu is already nice and want nicer then go for an rtx.

but want to know your old setup. I mean if you want upgrade define what's old, man.

What's your budget? I would go for a 3rd gen r5 or r7. R7 ir you are hard multi tasker.

I rather have multiple pcs on my pipeline. One for art one for coding. Multiple monitors and transfer files over lan.

8gb minimum. 12 would be ok. But if you can go to 16gb dual channel. Really good for multi tasking.

Plus you pc has to have resemblance to what the player is going to play. Unless you plan to use it as a server.

Minimum unity reqs are Like really low. Because it can simply develop for mobile. And use very primitive everything.

Minimum solid recommended id say
Sandy i3 or I5 2400 cpu.
4gb ram.
Gpu .. a 1060 or rx 480 just because it's so cheap used nowadays. (120 usd) or a 1050 for 75 dlls.

For refence a gt 1030 could work just fine for mobile.



Normal recommended I'd say
R5 1600 - 2600 if Intel at least 8th gen.

8gb ram would do but really 12gb if you want to have multiple programs running.
16 gb for perfect value and commodity.

A mobo with at least 4 ram slots.

Rx 480 8gb or rtx 2070 pref. Get lots of vram preferably.

Ssd obviously for OS and important unity projects.

If you really want to build it yourself watch techdeals yt channel.

Check jason weibman for the best unity tutorials.
Unity 3d college on YouTube.

He has the BEST paid unity course too. But if you want to learn unity in a professional effective way. Now you know were. He was a .net Dev too, then got into gamedev.

Cheers mate.

Found one on amazon for the same price with a i7-9700k and Rtx 2070 super https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07VFFCQ6L/ref=cm_cr_othr_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8#cm_cr_carousel_images_section

Really good pc for the price. $800

What really makes a big difference in the price is its condition. If it is used, and say three years old, then its price is much less because things will begin to fail. If it is new, it is not a bad rig, but you said it is an i5-7200 but that is a laptop cpu, so knowing which i5-xxxx it is really affects the price.

I would end up going with something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/M32CD-Desktop-Windows-Keyboard-Mouse/dp/B014QVM2KO/ref=sr_1_24?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1497714275&sr=1-24&refinements=p_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A2289793011%2Cp_36%3A2421880011

Then upgrading the GPU when I saved up a little bit more. It has a really nice CPU in it, and in the future you will be able to upgrade it to an I7. It is a solid machine. Once you get a GPU in there, it will run awesome. You should idealy upgrade to a 1060, for about 250 or so. And get a new power supply, at at least 650w.

You can buy this computer (-graphics card) for $434.99 USD with free shipping right now.

http://www.amazon.com/M32CD-Desktop-Windows-Keyboard-Mouse/dp/B014QVM2KO

For those who are curious:

this was my original PC, my re-entry into the MR about a year and a half ago.

originally was a FX 6300 with a really lowend motherboard, a 1060 and no Cooling. The exhaust fan went out within one week. Now it's the specs in title with an nh-d15 cpu cooler. Im upgrading to 850w also with the move, Im teetering right now on my power limit but with no issues. Im sure the 200mm fans will put it over.

I still manage to push the i7 to 4.8mhz at ~72c and the 1080 ti is pushing 2050hz (1728 base) and 11610mhz memory

I will post pictures of the full job when I'm done.

Seems a bit pricey.

While it isn't in stock right now this was 500 not to long ago

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01ICLADUA/ref=aw_pd_cart_vw_1_atc_1?

The role of computers in a business is to help a business make money.

If/when something goes wrong with one of these computers, you are going to be held responsible for fixing the issue because it's "your fault" because you built them. Any lost productivity, business, and money will be blamed on you.

Cover your ass, avoid this headache, and just buy prebuilts:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KLSMWVA/

If you really want to go the extra mile, use the Windows serial that comes with the PC to do a clean install so that they don't have any preinstalled junk.

If you have any old computers, I would recommend trying Plex out on that first since it should run fine as long as the CPU has a Passmark Score above 2000.

But if you really want new, plug and play hardware then Amazon has a basic PC for about $350 USD. It has enough USB ports to plug in all your external drives, though I would recommend consolidating to just one external drive for simplicity. Comes with an Intel i3 which has a Passmark score of 5847 which means it should be able to handle 1 transcode stream just fine. Also has an ethernet port so you can plug it directly into your router.

Really good price for a PC you can upgrade in the future with a couple internal drives and an SSD if you wanted.

At that budget getting something like this is your best option
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Desktop-i3-7100-Windows-TC-780-ACKi3/dp/B071DM6TWM/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1521933934&sr=1-1&keywords=desktop

and then put a gtx 1050 or 1050ti in it
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=379,380&sort=price

If you're interested in buying a pre-built PC, this is the one I just purchased to run Rift. Has an RX580 and I'm not sure you can build a PC with similar specs for the same price right now. It's also has a large case so easily upgradeable in the future.

It seems to be pretty popular because every other day when I check it out it shows "Temporarily Out of Stock" so people are scooping them up.

I’d recommend getting a refund. That pc is several years old and is not suitable for gaming. Get something similar in specs to this It should be good for your son to play Fortnite and is somewhat recent. I’m not sure what your budget is but this is one of the cheapest modern ones I could find

Ill normally look through Reddit's where they discuss PC Deals for friends who don't want to build a PC.

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Desktops are much cheaper but you'll also need a monitor, mouse, and keyboard. (Desk and Chair optional.)

Cities skylines does much better with a nicer CPU then a GPU.

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Here's a Reddit for you:

https://www.reddit.com/r/suggestapc/

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Here's a link for a gaming PC i found on that Reddit:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D5S3LZM/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza

I was curious about that one and this one, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_J.d-BbRRTA448

Thanks for replying.

How about this: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXi10200A-Desktop-i7-7700-7200RPM/dp/B00IMOND82/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485619865&sr=8-1&keywords=gxi10200a

This pc should be able to run mostly any game you throw at it. As well give you the ability to upgrade the graphics card a few years from now. https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXi10200A-Desktop-i7-7700-7200RPM/dp/B00IMOND82/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1499602238&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=gaming+pc&psc=1

I assume you don't want to build it yourself. If so, I would recommend trying to find a good prebuilt, esp since with the graphics card shortage you will have a difficult time finding a standalone mid-ranged card.

Some options: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1499701908&sr=1-2&keywords=gaming+desktop

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXi10200A-Desktop-i7-7700-7200RPM/dp/B00IMOND82/ref=sr_1_11?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1499701908&sr=1-11&keywords=gaming+desktop

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-AM002i-Desktop-Gaming-PC/dp/B01N2RLS05/ref=sr_1_20?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1499701908&sr=1-20&keywords=gaming+desktop

http://www.microcenter.com/product/471280/Aspire_AT3-715A-UR11_Desktop_Computer

http://www.microcenter.com/product/473972/IdeaCentre_710-25_Desktop_Computer

BEST DEAL: http://www.microcenter.com/product/475437/G314_Desktop_Computer

http://www.microcenter.com/product/474127/G221_Desktop_Computer

http://www.microcenter.com/product/474288/G151_Desktop_Computer

Within your budget and based on the tasks at hand you have to get done, this CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme GXi10200A with the new and powerful 7th gen i7 quad core processor , 6 GB GTX 1060 Graphics card, fast 128 GB SSD plus 1 TB HDD storage space would do a very good job for you.

this 😂😂😂

Looks like they shipped with DDR3, which was more common for pre builts and laptops at the launch of skylake. Seems like an OK deal vs building new right now especially with high RAM prices.

https://www.amazon.com/M32CD-Desktop-Windows-Keyboard-Mouse/dp/B014QVM2KO

If you find yourself wanting more power you can upgrade to a 1050 Ti and probably sell the 750 Ti for $60 or so.

You could just get this $430 Asus desktop and add a $110 video card. They're both#1 best seller on Amazon in their respective categories.

Or if you prefer Windows and are okay with less space this is an option.

Smaller? Look at the MSI Cubi - there were a few on sale earlier this week on Slickdeals. Get the i3, a $70 120GB mSATA, and a $110 2TB drive, you'd be out maybe $450 total.

[ASUS Desktop Computer M32BF-R05 A10-7800/8GB/1TB] (http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VLFD05A/ref=psdc_565098_t2_B00NMUYRUO)


[ASUS M32CD Desktop Core i5, 8GB, 1TB, Windows 10] (http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B014QVM2KO/ref=psdc_565098_t1_B00VLFD05A)


Edit - [Acer Desktop Computer Aspire T ATC-605-UR1X Intel Core i5 4460 3.2 GHz 8 GB DDR3 1 TB HDD] (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883101216)

Yeah, you can grab one with a i5 for around 165 from Amazon(with their return policy if you get a dud)

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-OptiPlex-7010-Minitower-Desktop/dp/B01K0GNUOG/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp?keywords=desktop&pd_rd_i=B01K0GNUOG&pd_rd_r=85a0fa40-746d-4c1c-9c46-39fb27945591&pd_rd_w=n1kO7&pd_rd_wg=UJz63&pf_rd_p=a6d018ad-f20b-46c9-8920-433972c7d9b7&pf_rd_r=6H74399BS6RZ37QGP3WN&qid=1568715571&refinements=p_36%3A6000-16000&rnid=2421879011&s=pc

Note this is the "Mini tower" version, I'm unsure if the SFF versions can physically fit a graphics card without contortions.

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You can then get a PCIe power only 1650 for 160(better card than the 1050ti I'd originally recommended, I didn't realize they were this cheap)

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GeForce-128-Bit-Support-Graphics/dp/B07QR2YFTX/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=1050+ti&qid=1568715841&s=electronics&sr=1-11

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And a 240GB boot SSD for 32.

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https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-BX500-240GB-2-5-Inch-Internal/dp/B07G3KRZBX/ref=sxin_2_ac_d_pm?ac_md=2-0-VW5kZXIgJDUw-ac_d_pm&keywords=ssd&pd_rd_i=B07G3KRZBX&pd_rd_r=51848549-d7c7-4c54-bb31-f0dd303465eb&pd_rd_w=Sr2TS&pd_rd_wg=4hAhR&pf_rd_p=eeff02d5-070a-45ea-a79e-d591974b877e&pf_rd_r=NEP4PME17QCX3B19K43A&psc=1&qid=1568716032

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So 357 for everything. Now, this is all straight from Amazon itself. I'm sure a bit of ebay could knock a significant chunk off, especially the tower. You could also thrift/craigslist and grab something for less.

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For about 100 more you could build a decent modern system with a clear upgrade path.

[PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rgk6Mc)

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Type|Item|Price

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**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TX4NnQ/amd-ryzen-3-1300x-35ghz-quad-core-processor-yd1200bbaebox) | $59.70 @ OutletPC

**Motherboard** | [ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RD97YJ/asrock-b450m-hdv-r40-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-hdv-r40) | $64.89 @ OutletPC

**Memory** | [Patriot 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VDc48d/patriot-8gb-2-x-4gb-ddr4-2400-memory-psd48g2400k) | $34.99 @ Amazon

**Storage** | [Team L3 EVO 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gH2rxr/team-l3-evo-240gb-25-solid-state-drive-t253le240gtc101) | $28.88 @ Amazon

**Storage** | [Western Digital RE4 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KzTmP6/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd1003fbyx) | $35.49 @ Amazon

**Video Card** | [MSI Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TTfmP6/msi-radeon-rx-580-8gb-armor-oc-video-card-rx-580-armor-8g-oc) | $159.99 @ Newegg

**Case** | [Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dwsKHx/rosewill-case-fbm01) | $29.99 @ Amazon

**Power Supply** | [EVGA BR 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kCtQzy/evga-br-500w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-100-br-0500-k1) | $45.98 @ Newegg

| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |

| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $489.91

| Mail-in rebates | -$30.00

| **Total** | **$459.91**

| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2019-09-17 06:37 EDT-0400 |

Results of a random amazon search. Pair that with a decent monitor (1080p monitors can typically be found for ~$100) and you're set.

Edit: I mean don't forget keyboard/mouse/speakers but those can be found for cheap.

TLDNR; Without having more info on what I described in the first paragraph. I'd say just buy a couple 10TB Easystores on sale ($180ea) and use your current SBCs and smaller server setups. After I wrote all of this I saw that you are from AUS(I think), so no clue if you can get close to $18 per TB in your area, but prices are coming down every year so sometimes better to just save $$$. It is super fun to think about a new and more powerful setup, plus buying it and putting it together, but as you can see I've done a lot of this thinking already. You are also probably feeling guilty that you have to make use of all your 2TBs, but lots of little HDDs do require more electricity to power up and cool. You need storage density and you cant get around that. Upgrade to 10TB and use the 2TB as a cold storage (backup). You are at a heck of a crossroads because the cost to go from SBCs to a "Proper" server plus buying storage isnt a cheap one. Currently there are limited stepping stones, but more powerful SBCs and Ryzen Embedded are here and on the way so wait if possible. Either way you go, you will spend more money and use up storage faster than you planned... The more powerful SBCs arent always cheap either, once you factor in cost of: memory card, power supply, case, possible heatsink/extra heat sinks, a fan, etc. Their lower price starts creeping into the middle range...


What brand, how many, and how long have the 2TBs been powered on for? It sounds like you are currently swapping out the 2TBs for others depending on what you want to watch and on which HDD it is? Do you have any projected storage numbers and what is your current and future budget? You mentioned that you have a small dedicated server? Is that another SBC or what is with that setup and how many sata ports? I'd forgo the transcoding ideas and nix buying any sort of new "Server" options. Focus on reusing what you have or going with a "Used" setup, so you can start saving that money for when 8TB or 10TB Easystores go on sale.

IMO for a true new build you'd want to price in ECC RAM, UPS, and I personally prefer a case that has hot swap access to HDDs. The Rosewill that meemo linked cant be beat for the price especially since it comes with 7 fans, but it requires extra steps to access the HDDs (internally only), which may be fine for you. There is Mediasonic (JBOD version only) that you could plug into your SBC, but that technically isnt hot swappable either, plus it is USB 3.1 to USB-C which isnt the worst but it isnt the best... I know you wanted to get away from SBCs, but if you disable transcoding there are some SBCs that use SATA to SATA connections that are very viable. Any SBC or standalone storage that uses USB is a potential risk, since USB can suffer connection issues when doing rebuilding, parity, and scrubbing maintenance (same if your power goes out, hence a need for UPS). Helios4 is a time restricted option, since they only open up orders once or twice a year (they are currently taking orders). *I saw a post saying that since the Helios4 is a 32bit processor, so it is limited to 16TB volumes. You get 2GB ECC + 4x SATA and I believe you can use any HDD size with that (double check tho), so 4 separate 10TB volumes (4x$180sale=$720+tax), not including parity... I'm not sure how the 32bit and the 16TB volume limit effect drive pooling... I gotta research more into that. I'm not familiar with the UnRaid, FreeNAS, or the other options that you mentioned, but OpenMediaVault4 has MergerFS drive pooling and Snapraid plugin, you could run 3x storage HDD and 1x parity or you could forgo parity for now. If you prefer Windows (You can also run omv4 on windows in a VM) there is Stablebit Drivepool (Not free) for pooling and then Snapraid (not completely novice friendly) for parity. Depending on the HDD type you could reuse the discarded Easystore enclosures and put your 2TB drives in there (still USB connection). If they are a different brand (non WD/HGST) I think you have to desolder something on the Easystore board? I lost the link on how to do that. You could also just keep the 2TB as cold storage backups, but that still carries a risk, but it's cheaper. You could also get 2nd Helios, but for about the same price you could use that money on a 10TB. That would replace 5x of your 2TB drives... Not too mention the extra electricity to power and cool 5x drives vs 1x drive... As you can see, storage density starts coming into play here, big time.
UPS https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00429N18S/
Mediasonic https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078YQHWYW/
Helios4 https://shop.kobol.io/collections/frontpage/products/helios4-full-kit-2gb-ecc-3rd-batch-pre-order?variant=18881501528137
https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/as17od/helios4_batch_3_available_for_preorder/

There are other SATA SBCs that you could use and you could also do a janky setup and put the SATA SBCs inside a hot swappable case like this Silverstone one. There are other cases, but this is the only name that came to mind. This case also doesnt have any power supply or fans to cool the HDDs so there will be extra cost there, plus you'll need a power supply, PLUS a way to turn on your power supply (with a power board), since that SBC setup wont have a motherboard. You can also make your own "Dumb" JBOD HDD enclosure and connect that to your mini server. Another option to SBCs is the ASRock cpu+mobo line: J3455-ITX, J4105-ITX, annd J5005-ITX. The issue with this that it appears you are still limited to 4x SATA or other variations of these boards have a PCIe 2.0 x16 slot at x1 or x2 transfer lanes/speed instead of x8 or x16... Also you have to factor in the price of ram and a mini PICO power supply. There is a subreddit+website that focuses on used parts for cheap server setups, but you might want to verify the power consumption of those setups when they are idling. With the NAS killer option, you gotta make sure all of the parts are still available on ebay or refurb sites, plus make sure you have time to build your setup to verify everything is working plus stress test it before the return window closes to weed out any weak used parts.
Silverstone https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IAELTAI/
HDD enclosure option https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-5-25-Inch-3-5-Inch-Hot-swap-SATAIII/dp/B00DGZ42SM/
Power Board https://www.amazon.com/Super-Micro-Computer-Supermicro-Cse-ptjbod-cb2/dp/B008FQZHZE
J3455-ITX https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-157-728
https://www.serverbuilds.net/nas-killer-v30/

Another option if you really want transcoding and a more powerful "Server" would be a Dell Optiplex 7010, which are used business computers that are "Refurbished", but I think they just take them from that company and wipe the hard drive, nothing else. The Minitower Desktop version is roomier than the slightly cheaper SFF (SmallFormFactor) version, which might be important if you want to swap out the power supply, watch the youtube video to get an idea of what you are getting into. Since a cheap power supply is a weak point plus a potential hazard I'd recommend swapping in a new power supply, but you could risk it with its current power supply. Everything else should last for a good while. You'll also need to install a HBA card. You can get Genuine used cards that were in good working order or you could get a new knock off from China. Both options are viable, but personally I prefer the used option. Theartofserver, ebay seller, also has a youtube channel, so I purchased from him, but I have also purchased from other sellers and got good working parts (I think Ebay still has the most honest and accurate rating system out there?). Since the Optiplex doesnt have room for internal HDDs then you are left with a few options with various HBA cards (internal vs external), expander cards, and adapter setups (SFF-8087 to SFF-8088). If you want it to look "Proper" there will be a lot of wasted money on 2x adapters (1x Optiplex + 1x external HDD enclosure) and an extra SFF-8088 cable between the two. I'd just go janky with it and get a longer reverse breakout cable of 3.3feet (4x SATA to 1x SFF-8087), which should be long enough to go from your external HDDs setup into the Optiplex case and internally connected to the HBA card, like the popular 9201-8i. The janky part being that you'll have the reverse breakout cable snaking directly into each case, instead of plugging into an adapter in the back.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K0GNUOG/
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Internal-Breakout-SFF-8087/dp/B018YHS9GM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-LSI-6Gbps-SAS-HBA-LSI-9201-8i-9211-8i-P20-IT-Mode-ZFS-FreeNAS-unRAID/162958581156
Single adapter https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816133055
Double adapter https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GPD9QEQ/
SFF-8080 cable https://www.amazon.com/Norco-Technologies-C-SFF8088-External-SFF-8088/dp/B003J9CZCK/

> 4gb ram, nvidia 920m, intel pentium 3825u

not gonna happen. here:

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-OptiPlex-7010-Minitower-Desktop/dp/B01K0GNUOG/ref=sr_1_9?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1537794019&sr=1-9&keywords=dell+optiplex

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Support-Graphics-04G-P4-6253-KR/dp/B01MF7EQJZ/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1537794043&sr=1-2&keywords=1050ti

If you can go a bit over your budget, this is a pretty capable PC:

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Master-GMA4800A-Desktop-7200RPM/dp/B06Y5Z471S/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1497103302&sr=8-8&keywords=gtx+1070+pc

If not, this is pretty okay as well:

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Trident-VR7RC-020US-Desktop-i5-7400/dp/B01NAP5T5V/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1497103366&sr=8-11&keywords=gtx+1070+pc


I would still highly recommend building your own, it's a fun process and you learn a lot about computers along the way, and save quite a bit of cash too. But these aren't half bad PCs for what they cost.

EDIT: This one is at the neck of your budget and pretty great as well - not as great as the $1200 one, the i5 here is probably bottlenecking the 1070, but this is still very, very fast: https://www.amazon.com/Performance-Desktop-G11CD-WB51-GeForce-processor/dp/B01K1JWCAK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1497103302&sr=8-2&keywords=gtx+1070+pc

Well lets take a look

here is a okay system at amazon i5 7xxx, 1tb, 256 ssd, 8gb ram , rx 480. 800 ish bucks

here is a i5 6400 with 1tb drive, 8gb of ram and 1070 gtx also from amazon

With either of those I would get a better psu like a 520 watt plus SeaSonic and maybe upgrade some ram to 16gb also maybe get an ssd for one that doesn't have an ssd.

Also here is a parts list build to because why not.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor | $196.29 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler | $28.89 @ SuperBiiz
Thermal Compound | Arctic Silver - Ceramique 2 Tri-Linear 2.7g Thermal Paste | $3.44 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | MSI - B350 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 Motherboard | $99.99 @ Newegg
Memory | G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $138.99 @ Newegg
Storage | SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $84.99 @ B&H
Storage | Toshiba - P300 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $61.99 @ Newegg
Video Card | EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card | $269.89 @ B&H
Case | Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case | $47.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply | SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $39.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fan | BitFenix - BFF-BLF-14025B-RP 47.7 CFM 140mm Fan | $6.56 @ Amazon
Case Fan | BitFenix - BFF-BLF-14025B-RP 47.7 CFM 140mm Fan | $6.56 @ Amazon
Case Fan | BitFenix - BFF-BLF-14025B-RP 47.7 CFM 140mm Fan | $6.56 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $992.13
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-27 01:00 EDT-0400 |

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01K1JWCAK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Seeing as that one was out of stock, I bough this one on sale a while ago and upgraded with 8 more gigs of ram and an ssd and its been amazing. Same tower.

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If you really want a prebuilt then this is pretty unbeatable for value. Just add on an $80 250GB SSD if you want one. While an i5 6400 is a bit disappointing for that price point, good luck getting a GTX 1070 for a similar price.

Desktop

Monitor

Keyboard/Mouse

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KLSMWVA/ref=psdc_13896597011_t1_B01N5SXZY8

Even cheaper i3.

If you want a Budget GPU, it'll be hard to put a windows OS in there. So I can come up with this build
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor | $57.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard | ASRock H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $39.98 @ Newegg
Memory | Kingston ValueRAM 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory | $21.75 @ Directron
Storage | Sandisk Z400s 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $42.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | PowerColor Radeon RX 460 2GB Red Dragon Video Card | $74.98 @ Newegg
Case | Zalman ZM-T4 MicroATX Mini Tower Case | $29.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply | EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply | $28.89 @ OutletPC
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $336.57
| Mail-in rebates | -$40.00
| Total | $296.57
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-04 20:41 EST-0500 |
But without a GPU (running with the integrated that comes with the pentium)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor | $57.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard | ASRock H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $39.98 @ Newegg
Memory | Kingston ValueRAM 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory | $21.75 @ Directron
Storage | Sandisk Z400s 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $42.99 @ Amazon
Case | Zalman ZM-T4 MicroATX Mini Tower Case | $29.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply | EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply | $28.89 @ OutletPC
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $88.58 @ OutletPC
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $340.17
| Mail-in rebates | -$30.00
| Total | $310.17
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-04 20:41 EST-0500 |
You can fit an operating system in there. You might be better off getting a prebuilt desktop than building one though, I recommend this one
https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Ideacentre-300-Computer-90DA00LPUS/dp/B01KLSMWVA/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1480902284&sr=1-1&refinements=p_36%3A20000-35000
Has a better processor than what you could possibly build just from pcpartpicker.
That's my opinion though. Somebody will probably come through and blow my build out of the water. LOL

the GPU base clock is 200mhz. and the boost clock would run it....but being a 15w chip it won't cut it for long without thermal throttling.

I'd just buy something like this if i were you, or a certified refurbished unit for like $150-200. if you want to build a pc you could, but this will run the game fine on integrated.

Hard to do OW for anything less than $550

• $449 Acer Aspire Desktop, 7th Gen Intel Core i5-7400, 8GB DDR4, 2TB HDD, Windows 10 Home
  
  
• $80 Gigabyte Radeon RX 550 D5 2GB This card does NOT require external power/it will run off the PCI bus. Simply plug it in. Download drivers. Restart. You playing Overwatch at medium settings 1080p at about 60fps.
  
  
• Review of 550 with overwatch
  
  If you are going to play more graphics demanding games and willing to spend more but still don't want to upgrade the power supply then I suggest going for a 1050ti 4GB (currently $130 but often goes on sale below this / check /r/buildaPCsales) which will run games like Witcher 3, the Division, Ark Survival, Ashes, GTA V all at about 50-60fps on medium to high settings and will run Overwatch at high to ultra. Your mileage may vary depending on game.

Would this work?
Buy this pre built -https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071DM6TWMref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_63ZKAbM1WYDP7

Then stick a gtx 1050 in it?

For Dolphin, CPU (processor) matters more than the GPU (graphics card). Ideally, you could get a desktop with a high end CPU and a low-mid end GPU for the best results for the price.

This should be ideal for your price range: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8060A2-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B01MT0781S/ref=sr_1_8?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1503301433&sr=1-8&keywords=gaming+desktop

This one is a little cheaper, can't vouch for AMD GPUs on Dolphin though: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A3-Desktop-Graphics-802-11AC/dp/B071NG75BW/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1503301433&sr=1-5&keywords=gaming+desktop

Sure. Got it from Amazon. It looks like it's currently out of stock, so you may want to shop around or find another one with similar specs. But this is the one I got. Completely happy with it, although I could do without all those red lights. Tend to leave the PC on overnight, and was worried that they'd keep me awake, but it's fine. Just took a bit of getting used to. :)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071NG75BW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The thing about 1060s right now is that every prebuilt has one in them so the companies and move on to bigger and better fish, it's not a bad card by any means.

I've never played WoW, but I do know these specs massively surpass the recommended:

I7 8700

1060 3gb

16gb DDR4

120gb SSD

1TB HDD

@ $1000 on Amazon

Get a 1tb Samsung SSD for ~130 or 2tb SSD for ~300

Here's a benchmark with an i3 8100 and a 1060 3gb running WOW on Ultra.

You can expect better framerates with the better CPU. I3 8100 vs I7 8700

Ok, well here are some options I have found for you that would be immensely better than the FX 4300 build.

$980 Ryzen R7 1700x based build with an Rx 580 8gb. Needs another 8gb of RAM, and preferably an SSD for a boot drive to get the most out of it. Will still do quite well for gaming at 1080p in AAA titles. Will do very well for streaming via OBS due to its 8 powerful cores.

$1000 i7 8700 based build, slightly weaker graphics card, but better CPU for strictly gaming (slightly weaker streaming ability, but very good still) same problems as the other build. No SSD, needs more RAM. Here

Here is a build that is very well rounded. It has a good CPU, pretty good graphics card (not as good as the 580 8gb), but it has an SSD boot drive and 16gb of RAM. If you could afford this one, it would probably be my pick. Here $1180.

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-580-130/dp/B075LVK78B/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1518219309&sr=1-3&keywords=gtx+1060 Pretty great. Just replace the PSU and you're A-OK.

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-580-148/dp/B076BR99G3/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1519089945&sr=1-4&keywords=gaming+pc&refinements=p_36%3A80000-90000

Hm, okay. It seems like your above the recommended specs for the game, but still seem to have trouble running it regardless which is interesting. From what I've read you clean the dust out of your PC regularly already, so my only suggestion would be to download a utility such as CC Cleaner or IObit's Advanced System Care 11 and a defragmenting tool like Smart Defrag 5 which is also from IObit. I would try using these programs first before diving into buying a new PC and see if they help at all. I'm assuming you have anti-virus software so I would run that as well just to be sure.

If that doesn't work then I found a few pre-builts with pretty good specs for a reasonable price.

Option 1 $840 [NEW]

Option 2 $869 [REFURBISHED]

Option 3 $900 [NEW]

Option 4 $934 [NEW]

[Option 5] (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA65C6WA5644) $1450 [NEW]

The 5th option is only if you want to go balls-to-the-wall, the cheaper options I've included should run Stellaris without a hitch.

Wow! There are a lot of comments here...

Ok, if he is only playing esports titles (Overwatch/LOL) then you do not need a $1000 PC. You can get one if you want like the Dell Inspiron desktops, they are actually really good for the money. (check r/buildapcsales for deals on these "pre-builts")

However, if you want to save some cash and still have a decent rig that can be upgraded later if needed. Then get something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-580-148/dp/B076BR99G3/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1&tag=retroscienc06-20&linkId=f32ff889f30ae7ee067c3f928bfa910d

OR

https://www.amazon.com/dp/b075lvk78b//ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1&tag=retroscienc06-20&linkId=1ab891a21af4765199a7c2ad0c9e3782
*Better card, but less ram, no ssd, and less powerful CPU

With those options you will have some cash left to save, spend on a monitor/keyboard/mouse/ect. or buy some more games on PC to play!

THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND: You do not need anything better than a Ryzen 5 and here is why:

1. Most new games do not use more then four cores max, if that. 2. Ryzen is not as good as Intel for gaming, and the best use for a Ryzen 7 or better is video editing and heavy tasks like that. Now, I would suggest AMD over Intel at the moment because of upgrade path and the meltdown issue with Intel.
   
   You do not need more than 8-12GB of ram and here is why:
   
   
2. More ram will not help you in gaming because the system will only use so much and that's it, so adding 16gb for a game that only uses 4-6 is pointless. 2. It is crazy expensive at the moment and it is better to only buy what you need and not overspend. Now, if you plan on doing a lot of multi tasking, video rendering, ect. then 16gb is the way to go, although I assume that is not the case.
   
   You do not need a crazy expensive GPU to play games and here is why:
   
   
3. I have a 1050 ti and it will play everything I could want and then some on med-high settings at 1080p and 1440p no problem. The best you should need for now is an RX 570/1060
   I hope that this helps you make a good educated decision and I hope that he is happy with your choice :)

I would also actually suggest a prebuilt like this one, it'll be hard to build something with better specs at that price https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076BR99G3/ref=psdc_13896597011_t2_B077S27YLP?th=1

If you want to BUILD One, go to PC part picker or Newegg or something. If you're looking for a pre built rig, the HP Pavilion is (in my opinion) the best value for your price range. It's not the ultimate gaming machine but it'll run most stuff pretty well. It's pretty small and there's not a lot of room for new parts, when I worked on mine it took a lot of tweaking to get stuff working right, but I like it. https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-690-0010/dp/B07BHXTGS8/ref=asc_df_B07BHXTGS8/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=319955522114&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13026218277951501401&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1027519&hvtargid=pla-613701238065&psc=1

Here ya go, buddy!

HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop Computer

• AMD Ryzen 3 2200G
  
• AMD Radeon RX 550
  
• 8GB RAM
  
• 1TB hard drive
  
• Windows 10 (690-0010, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHXTGS8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Z4a4DbM132CQ8
  
  The RX 550 is like 300% faster. On CS:GO, you'll get over 110 FPS average with max settings, which is more than enough to max out a 60 or 75hz monitor :) The 710 averages around 30 FPS.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07BHXTGS8/ref=mp_s_a_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1526471538&sr=8-13&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=ryzen+3+pc

The CPU on that one is really bad, this is a much better version with a new Ryzen CPU.

That was true 8 years ago. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve built multiple machines for myself and family members but with the GPU prices still high due to crypto and RAM prices still high due to whatever the world is causing it pre-builds can often beat the price you can build it for since they deal in bulk.

/r/BuildAPCSales often has quality prebuilt sooo up.

Don’t get me wrong build your machine if you have the means and the capabilities but nowadays you’ll be neck in neck if it’s cheaper or not if you catch a good sale.

For example: https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Desktop-Graphics-View21-035A/dp/B07D5S3LZM

This was $800 recently. $899 now. At $800 you’ll be hard to beat that price by building, paying for shipping, Windows key, keyboard and mouse, etc yourself.

$1200 for a refurb unit? hell no. Used 10xx series GPU are actually being dumped on ebay now so you could get a sweet deal on them. Saw a used 1070 going for $230.

here is one that is almost the same but with a shittier GPU and 128mb less storage.

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Desktop-Graphics-View21-035A/dp/B07D5S3LZM

here is a custom build with much better specs for the same price.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor | $318.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard | Asus - PRIME B450M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $76.61 @ Amazon
Memory | Team - T-Force Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $139.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $88.99 @ Newegg Business
Storage | Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $58.99 @ SuperBiiz
Video Card | Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Mini Video Card | $423.00 @ Newegg
Case | Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case | $39.99 @ B&H
Power Supply | EVGA - BQ 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $39.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $1186.55
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if you do go prebuilt, this is a pretty solid deal. If you want it today, you're best off buying the prebuilt and a ssd. For the most part, you need sales on parts to beat this deal. Rough part match up for the prebuilt. I honestly would say this is pretty worth it.

This is a better computer and cheaper
iBUYPOWER Elite Gaming PC Desktop AMD Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6GHz, AMD Radeon RX 580 4GB Graphics, 16GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB HDD, 120GB SSD, Win 10 Home 64-bit, View21 035A https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D5S3LZM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_rvTJBb4WADPDJ

CLX Set Gaming Intel Core i7 9700K, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6GB GDDR6, 16GB Memory, 1TB HDD + 120GB SSD Storage MS Windows 10 Home https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N43HTRR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_c4KwCb96C9N10

iBUYPOWER Gaming PC Desktop Trace 9220 Liquid Cooled Overclockable i7-8700K, NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2070 8GB, Z370 Motherboard, 16GB RAM, 1TB HDD, 240GB SSD, AC WiFi, Win 10 64-bit, RGB Case, VR Ready https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_e5KwCbG143Z5X

iBUYPOWER Gaming PC Desktop Trace 9220 Liquid Cooled Overclockable i7-8700K, NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2070 8GB, Z370 Motherboard, 16GB RAM, 1TB HDD, 240GB SSD, AC WiFi, Win 10 64-bit, RGB Case, VR Ready https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_sJP4Cb3D3WBA6 this is pretty good value for its price and would work out great for Vr

Yeah, or if you’re lazy like me you could get this:

a build on amazon

But if you’re not in a rush, I would wait till Black Friday for better deals

Not very well imho, esp. if you are interested in flight/racing sims. You are better to stick with Intel/Nvidia imho. You get what you pay for. Something like this would probably be much better;

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VFFCQ6L/ref=sspa_dk_detail_2?psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFYUUQ1RlZUNUxTTFImZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA0OTg0MDUxNFZJT0Q2WDdZS0VDJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAwNjk4ODEyM1lST1NHQkVPQUNMJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfZGV0YWlsMiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Supreme Liquid Cool Gaming PC Desktop, Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6GHz, NVIDIA RTX 2070 Super 8GB Graphics, 16GB DDR4, 1TB PCI-E NVMe SSD, WiFi Ready & Win 10 Home (SLC8260A2, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VFFCQ6L/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_9W0ODb1TAE03Q


Good for its price .. because of 2070 graphics card. You may need to add additional storage as this only comes with 1TB ssd . I know how big those Premiere files can get

What did you pay for this thing? FX-6300 is from 2012 (and was horrible already in 2012). This computer is worth MAYBE $200 on like a really really good day. Return it immediately and get something decent. You can do way better for $700.

Here are some computers that are 100x better than what you bought for $700ishhttps://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-GXiVR8060A7-i5-9400F-GeForce-802-11AC/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=sr_1_1?fst=as%3Aoff&pf_rd_i=16225007011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=74069509-93ef-4a3c-8dca-a9e3fa773a64&pf_rd_r=A5M9DR8SH9GQ29T2JEBH&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_t=101&qid=1563760328&refinements=p_36%3A2421882011&rnid=2421879011&s=computers-intl-ship&sr=1-1

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https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=sr_1_2?fst=as%3Aoff&pf_rd_i=16225007011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=74069509-93ef-4a3c-8dca-a9e3fa773a64&pf_rd_r=A5M9DR8SH9GQ29T2JEBH&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_t=101&qid=1563760328&refinements=p_36%3A2421882011&rnid=2421879011&s=computers-intl-ship&sr=1-2

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https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Blaze-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B07RHBLV7F/ref=sr_1_7?fst=as%3Aoff&pf_rd_i=16225007011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=74069509-93ef-4a3c-8dca-a9e3fa773a64&pf_rd_r=A5M9DR8SH9GQ29T2JEBH&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_t=101&qid=1563760328&refinements=p_36%3A2421882011&rnid=2421879011&s=computers-intl-ship&sr=1-7

SkyTech Blaze II seems to be the best one for eSport games on Amazon, it can also run modern AAA titles but it's really future-proof when it comes to eSports. It has a Ryzen 5 2600 and a GTX 1660 which are plenty for League of Legends, Overwatch and CS:GO etc. I'm going to buy it myself.

The GTX 1660 build is really good for the price especially that it's currently on discount for $679. Anything more powerful would be similar to this GTX 1070 build which is slightly above your budget.

SkyTech Shiva Gaming Computer PC Desktop - Ryzen 5 2600 6-Core 3.4 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6G, 500G SSD, 16GB DDR4, RGB, AC WiFi, Windows 10 Home 64-bit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RPCG8ZW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_LgAEDbC3CT43X that one or This NEXT ONE YOU COULD EASILY UPGRADE THE RAM

Skytech Archangel Gaming Computer PC Desktop - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6GHz, GTX 1660 6G, 500GB SSD, 8GB DDR4 3000MHz, RGB Fans, Windows 10 Home 64-bit, 802.11AC Wi-Fi https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WCLNZWR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_biAEDb9Q8CYWC

Anyone have any experience with skytech?

Friend of mine is looking into getting into PC gaming. He's not particularly interested in trying to build something, so I've been looking at prime day deals.

By and large, it looks like most of the prebuilt systems I'm seeing aren't amazing deals, but at least look like they're selling for the cost of their components on pcpartpicker


Does anyone have any experience with sky tech? This seems pretty decent for $800.


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RPCG8ZW

I don’t know much about specs but it’s a pretty good gaming laptop 8gb ram etc but I just got this pc —> https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Master-GMA1394A-Gaming-GeForce/dp/B07GG62872/ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmr2_1?keywords=CyberPowerPC+-+Gaming+Desktop+-+AMD+Ryzen+7+2700X+-+16GB+Memory+-+NVIDIA+RTX+2070+8GB+-+2TB+HDD+%2B+240GB+SSD&qid=1563598470&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmr2



I would like to play zero cailber, gorn, blade and sorcery,



Feel cool playing games


The fact that it just doesn’t work I’ve probably watched over 200 videos on tutorials that all didn’t work I’m looking for something that doesn’t have problems setting up




At least 4000$



The pc I just got 8

Hey hey, just coming back to ask you a question... What do you think of this setup?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GG62872/ref=s9_acsd_bw_wf_a_BTSmainw_cdl_4?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_r=AS7FYKC4NZ2W6SX5ADA6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=433e8818-d272-4fe1-982e-e584e87386b1&pf_rd_i=15201447011#customerReviews

It is currently a promotion for black friday on amazon, and I think it would be better for the price.
The price established above for the parts we picked in this thread seems to be achievable via a couple of rebate coupons, which I don't have access to since I am ordering this computer from Central America, hence the price actually goes around 1200.

So: 1200 for the one we've built so far, or, 1200 for the one on the amazon link above... which would be best?

Thank you so much for reading, I appreciate your help, you've been awesome and kind to give some of your time to help someone out, I appreciate it.

For CSGO 60-70FPS in 1080p you don't need much firepower at all and something like this one on sale today would do:
https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-ArchAngel-Gaming-Computer-Quad-Core/dp/B077QDM2DP/

But if you def want to spend your 900-1000 then these are also on sale today and worth considering IMO:
https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Blaze-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B07RL4K6CN/
https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Shiva-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B07RPCG8ZW/

If you search the main thread by newest, it was posted 32 mins ago.

Here's the direct link; I'm not sure how to link a post in the main thread:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GG62872/ref=s9_acsd_bw_wf_a_BTSmainw_mdl?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_r=TMNR58W597MPNSKX1PSP&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=a34ff480-29b2-45a3-b23a-ba109e23a881&pf_rd_i=15201447011


EDIT- Link to post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/9zswwi/prebuilt_cyberpowerpc_rtx_2070_liquid_cooled/?utm_source=reddit-android

SkyTech Shiva Gaming Computer PC Desktop - Ryzen 5 2600 6-Core 3.4 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6G, 500G SSD, 16GB DDR4, RGB, AC WiFi, Windows 10 Home 64-bit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RPCG8ZW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_HlzrDbGCBTXQM

iBUYPOWER Elite Gaming PC Computer Desktop Trace 062A (AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz, NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2060 6GB, 16GB DDR4-2666 RAM, 2TB HDD, 240GB SSD, WiFi Included, Win 10 Home, VR Ready), Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MCVWJMV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_5lzrDb704DJJK

CUK Stratos Micro Gaming Desktop (Intel i5-9400F, 16GB DDR4 RAM, 512GB NVMe SSD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8GB, 500W Bronze PSU, Windows 10 Home) Gamer PC Computer https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RY3S3VT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_hmzrDbGXAPFGQ

This is what I have found. For suggestions im not really sure. If you are going to play other games that lspdfr consider the cuk one as it's got a more powerful GPU. That said though at the end of the day lspdfr needs more CPU power than gpu. So the 2600 trades blows with the 9400f while the 2700x is the best.
Don't get me wrong though but 2600 and 9400f should be just fine in lspdfr. I use a 2600x which is the same as 2600 just clocked a bit higher. I get good frame rates of usually around 50-60 and I have a bunch of plugins, custom police cars and add-on ones, as well as NVR

https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Shiva-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B07RPCG8ZW/ref=sr_1_9?crid=2352D6EF2X1E&keywords=skytech+gaming+pc&qid=1563291959&s=gateway&sprefix=skytech+%2Caps%2C148&sr=8-9

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Supreme-i7-9700K-Graphics-SLC8260A2/dp/B07VFFCQ6L/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=1QDQXXRKIQHZL&keywords=gaming+desktop&qid=1567216358&s=gateway&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sprefix=gaming+des%2Caps%2C149&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzVDNSNVlFNUNZUVFSJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzI2NDI0UU02UE1YSzVGN0xTJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAwNjk4ODEyM1lST1NHQkVPQUNMJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

Deal of the day if you are ordering now, 5 hours left great pc

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RPCG8ZW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_8hS3DbQV0J9Y4

Would be fine for planet zoo as it surpasses all the recommended settings and is half the price of one linked here

I see.
I think I found one but holy heck this kind of breaks the bank a tiny bit lol

SkyTech Shiva Gaming Computer PC Desktop - Ryzen 5 2600 6-Core 3.4 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6G, 500G SSD, 16GB DDR4, RGB, AC WiFi, Windows 10 Home 64-bit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RPCG8ZW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_.ZfsDbJET7GBJ


Is the 3rd gen ryzen the only thing I'd need to really improve the other pc? Bc if so I could buy that separately and plug it in right?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RPCG8ZW

*****USE PRIME TO BUY THIS******
Ok, looked for a little while and found this: https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Shiva-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B07RPCG8ZW/ref=gbps_tit_m-6_3b69_b55b9695?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=db08f08d-45f1-490b-aa6c-1f4d543b3b69&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=14611812011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=5JR4S0E8GD1F0HEHSTDQ
The motherboard is a bit lower-end and the processor is budget, but if you have or get the free trial of spend like 10 bucks to get it for a month you'll get $200 off, so you can upgrade your mobo or processor or sumhin
*****USE PRIME TO BUY THIS*****

Hello, this might not be the place for it but I'm looking to finally get a prebuilt gaming desktop.

On top of gaming I foresee heavily using programs like Unity and Blender.

I've narrowed it down to a few deals that look pretty good to me but I'm not sure which to pull the trigger on:

https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Shiva-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B07RPCG8ZW/ref=sr_1_37?keywords=gaming+desktop&qid=1563242591&s=electronics&sr=1-37

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07RVMX6JW/ref=s9_acsd_bw_wf_a_BTSmainw_cdl_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_r=N8DKSSV6P790ACS38EBS&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=968e1d24-e0e2-432c-8905-a2ad69783ef3&pf_rd_i=16128680011

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MCVWJMV/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

I'm not sure whether SkyTech or iBuyPower has a better reputation, but the specs overall seem pretty similar between these.

Thanks!

These are good deals https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B07TRPGRB6/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=all&qid=1574637397

for $1169

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https://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-Supreme-i7-9700K-GeForce-SLC8260A2/dp/B07VFFCQ6L/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=2070+super+9700k&qid=1574637519&sr=8-1

for $1377

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https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Computer-Element-9260-i7-9700F/dp/B07V34QQ3C/ref=pd_cp_147_4/137-1960775-7687407?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07V34QQ3C&pd_rd_r=d241fd98-67b0-4067-88d3-d254d097e589&pd_rd_w=SJXU9&pd_rd_wg=XoJ0G&pf_rd_p=0e5324e1-c848-4872-bbd5-5be6baedf80e&pf_rd_r=PV1WSR9NNXNKR5MSADQ1&psc=1&refRID=PV1WSR9NNXNKR5MSADQ1

for $999

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I haven't upgraded my PC in a while. My current PC has a i7 4th gen and gtx 980 alongside miscellaneous.

I wanted to upgrade my GPU to a RTX 2070 Super, but I need to upgrade my CPU (to prevent bottlenecking), which requires me to upgrade my mobo for CPU compatibility.

I saw this deal https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VFFCQ6L.

I did some quick math and basically upgrading with a new psu, mobo, cpu, and gpu would be around the same price point as this prebuilt.

I thought the point of pcgaming was supposed to be cheaper as you go along since you can upgrade, which makes me REE.

My question is should I upgrade individual parts or just pull the trigger on this?

> I need to upgrade my CPU (to prevent bottlenecking),

Correct. But, if you're playing at 4K or high 1440P, you might scrape by a bit further.

> I saw this deal https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VFFCQ6L.

Only downside (assuming decent PSU, board, and cooler) is the 2400mhz RAM speed.

And, "1 year parts warranty" is a scam. Every part bought yourself should have about 3+ years.

> I did some quick math and basically upgrading with a new psu, mobo, cpu, and gpu would be around the same price point as this prebuilt.

With Intel and Nvidia, pretty much. But, why would you need a new PSU and case?

> I thought the point of pcgaming was supposed to be cheaper as you go along since you can upgrade, which makes me REE.

If you want a cheaper option similar in performance (ignore the red banner): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hgB6Xv

Reasoning:

• https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbsdbf/ryzen_3000_zen_2_meta_review_1540_application/
  
  
• https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ch42mt/radeon_rx_5700_5700_xt_meta_review_5130/
  
  
• Ryzen 3600 vs Intel 9900k GPU scaling.
  
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• https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/d06pab/out_of_the_loop_what_is_currently_going_on_with/ez9olcm/

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VFFCQ6L/ref=s9_acss_bw_cg_PCDTMC_3c1_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-2&pf_rd_r=FKGJ396TEK3FC7PEESP3&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=cc6ce7f4-6826-447b-95fb-77ea81ceedc8&pf_rd_i=565098

This is the one I had my eye on. If it makes a huge difference I game at 1440p @ 75 FPS most often.

Also, thanks for the help man.

Sorry if this is the wrong thread, but I'm looking to get a new pc, and saw this on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VFFCQ6L?pf_rd_p=183f5289-9dc0-416f-942e-e8f213ef368b&pf_rd_r=37KJMF7G5GFVQVCGHAKE

What do you guys think about the spec and price, just looking for something to game on and what not.

Some people don't want to build, and that's fine.

I'd probably get this one with your budget and tat leaves a good chunk for some nice peripherals.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Supreme-i7-9700K-Graphics-SLC8260A2/dp/B07VFFCQ6L/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?keywords=gaming+desktop&qid=1571556160&sr=8-6

Sorry if this is hijacking, but do yall think this would be good for endgames?

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Supreme Liquid Cool Gaming PC Desktop, Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6GHz, NVIDIA RTX 2070 Super 8GB Graphics, 16GB DDR4, 1TB PCI-E NVMe SSD, WiFi Ready & Win 10 Home (SLC8260A2, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VFFCQ6L/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_41yHDbEJNN41Q

This pc I was looking: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Supreme-Liquid-Microsoft-Student/dp/B07VFFCQ6L/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_es_US=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&keywords=Pc+2070&qid=1573708711&sr=8-1
Also the laptop I was looking (2070): https://www.amazon.com/Valkit-Bandas-1-654-unidades-inoxidable/dp/B07QVRVP73/ref=sr_1_2?__mk_es_US=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=2JV8ZOMHVAIQ0&keywords=aero%2B15&qid=1573708742&sprefix=Aero%2B%2Caps%2C216&sr=8-2&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07RHBLV7F
It's really good for around $750 and it would do you great

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Master-GMA1394A-Gaming-GeForce/dp/B07GG62872/ref=mp_s_a_1_24?ie=UTF8&qid=1550800544&sr=1-24&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65


Or this.


https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16883227879

Both have extremely similar performance but the one from Amazon is liquid cooled, what it really comes down to though, is whatever you think looks better.

This one is way better

https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Blaze-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B07RHBLV7F

You can cut cost and get just as good of a processor by buying an AMD ryzen processor. Ryzen 2600 performs just as well as a majority of I7's out there. However 32GB is a must.

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You can get some pretty decent ones on amazon, if your not into building your own.

With I7 level processors you won't really get better bang for your buck than with a Ryzen CPU.

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Like this listing here:

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https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Blaze-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B07RHBLV7F/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=ryzen%2Bskytech&qid=1566628263&s=gateway&sr=8-9&th=1

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You will however have to upgrade the RAM.

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Renders really fast.

You need $700+ for a decent PC, like this one for $749. Anything cheaper looks really bad, unless you manage to find a good deal somewhere else.

You can drop $100 off that price if you are willing to build it yourself.

I may have to use the thing for a few months, maybe save up for a bit and then swap to a better monitor. I want to aim for something like 144hz, 1440p, IPS, G-Sync. I think I may be looking at the 500-600 range for something like that. In theory I could return the monitor to cut 280 off the price but I really don't have the extra cash laying around right now, and I saw nothing in the 250-300 range that had all those. I could have missed it, of course. Honestly it might have been better to just keep using my old 60hz monitor, I don't really have any games I currently play that need a new monitor until Borderlands 3 comes out but. I'm not even sure I need that powerful a monitor, I don't play PvP games. I just know that my old one had serious problems with anything even remotely dark, so much so that I could be playing cave or night areas practically blind and no setting on the monitor ever seemed to help.

I bought a new premade with the Prime Day sale, so it wasn't just a GPU upgrade. This one, in case you would like a reference: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GG62872/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Here's another option to consider. I just bought this. I haven't unboxed it yet but it will be a big upgrade from what I have.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RHBLV7F/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GG62872/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_XCl-BbK2363MQ


If you’re looking at that other PC for $1,000, you should check this one out that’s $1,200. For $200 more, you get a slightly worse CPU, but insanely better GPU and twice the amount of storage for both the SSD and HDD. The difference between the 1060 3GB and 2070 8GB GPUs alone is ~$300+. You don’t really want a GPU with 3GB of VRAM nowadays. I understand if this is out of your budget range, but it presents a much better value.

This is the one I went with

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GG62872/ref=s9_acsd_bw_wf_a_BTSmainw_mdl?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_r=TMNR58W597MPNSKX1PSP&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=a34ff480-29b2-45a3-b23a-ba109e23a881&pf_rd_i=15201447011

How about $1500 on a PC from Amazon?

Should I buy a prebuilt? And if so, how is Cyberpower vs iBuyPower? I know I want a 2070 and a 2700 but I am honestly unsure if I should build my own. I am looking at getting one of these two:

CyberPower PC

iBuyPower

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I want to know if their build quality is good and which one does a better job at proving actual support (I remember LTT did a video about the different prebuilt companies but I am more concerned in prompt service, like how they were able to resolve your actual hardware problems, i.e. bad fan or bad gpu etc.)

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I looked similar stuff/same stuff (the things I could find closest to) for the iBuyPower build on PCPartPicker and it basically came to about 100 bucks cheaper, without the OS and that is still me having to put everything together. I honestly don't mind building a PC but the idea of saving all my time and just spending a little more money is very very alluring. Any suggestions? Am I being a fool by even thinking about doing this, I know it's not a very PCMR thing to buy prebuilts but the price seems right and the idea of building it sounds like it isn't worth it just to save like 100-200 bucks.

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> Does anybody know how to prevent Windows defender from using 40% of my ram at all times? I have tried many things, from disabling realtime scan, changing the event schedule, scanning for threats, and excluding itself from its searches, all the way to trying to disable it in regedit, and nothing has worked. Disabling it will totally prevent it from using my cpu, but it will always use 40ish percent of my ram no matter what. Does anybody know how to fix this, or just end the whole task completely? If the latter, could somebody suggest and alternative threat protection that has a smaller footprint?

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> Ryzen 2600X or 2700 for ~50 € more (2600 is not available in the sale I'm looking at)? Mainly Gaming with the occasional Stream for friends, including Webcam and running other programs in the background.

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> Hey, greetings, my friend just got a wireless bluetooth controller (MadCatz ps3 controller) in a garage sale that can't be connected via USB, just wondering if there's a way to set it up to play on the PC, the controller can only be turned on and we can't seem to find a pairing button. His PC seems to "find" the controller but fails to "recognize" it. I read the PDF manual and it says that it came with a usb adapter to connect to the ps3. Is there a way to connect it to the PC or is he just screwed?

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> Howdy, I'm looking to buy a 32 inch curved monitor. I was looking at the Asus VA327H, and was going to purchase from Newegg. Does anyone else have any other suggestions? I would prefer 27 to 32 inch and my limit is $300, movies and some light duty photo editing will be its primary uses. thanks!

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> Ok so I have an asus b350 f motherboard and the rgb works but when I go to aoura sinc it doeant show up so its stuck at rainbow. I have all my drivers installed and their uptodate. Full specs: 500gb samsung ssd, g.skillz trident z 16 gb ddr4, gtx 1070 founders edition, ryzen 1700x, evga liquid cooler, evga 750 wt g2 gold

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Processor: Intel Core i7-8700 Six-Core Processor (12MB Cache, 3.2GHz-4.6GHz) 65W,

Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5,

Memory: 16GB DDR4 2666MHz,

SSD: 500GB Solid State Drive,

B360M Motherboard,

Power Supply: upply: 500W Bronze PSU

Operating System Windows 10 home 64-bit


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077J275KK

or


Processor: Liquid Cooled Intel Core i7-8700K Six-Core Processor 3.7 GHz (4.7 GHz Max Turbo),

Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 8GB Dedicated Graphics Card,

Memory: 16GB DDR4 RAM,

Hard Disk: 1TB 7200 RPM Hard Drive,

SSD: 240GB Solid State Drive,

Z370 Motherboard,

Power Supply: 600 Watts Power Supply,

Operating System Windows 10 Professional 64-bit

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07G77QHV8

is there some drawback to the second one that explains why most of the parts are better?

https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Blaze-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B07RHBLV7F?th=1&psc=1

From the pre-built I got: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07RHBLV7F?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
Came with one 8gb stick from Ballistix, got it when it was 660 (so pretty good deal for me along with the dell 24in monitor that's been here) I've been playing mostly apex tbh lol but damn not gonna lie it looks alot better on my pc then it does my ps4. (Have it at max settings and get around 100 fps) Going to mostly be playing light games like Apex and streaming going to stay with other triple A titles on console so I haven't pushed it to it's max, however these two PC's might go harder considering they have better specs and can be pushed more. I just wanted peeps to know that the company is pretty decent with builds if you wanna buy a pre-built or go to their website and pick parts so they can build it how you want (considered that first)

damn I was gonna buy it today but its sold out, I found something that looks similar but I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking at, mind taking a look?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07RHBLV7F/ref=psdcmw_13896597011_t1_B07RL4K6CN

Fps would be really bad. That PC isn't really meant for gaming. It would get 60fps max, possibly less

For $150 more you can get a PC meant for gaming, and this build will get you somewhere around 120fps

SkyTech Blaze II Gaming Computer PC Desktop - Ryzen 5 2600 6-Core 3.4 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 6G, 500G SSD, 8GB DDR4, RGB, AC WiFi, Windows 10 Home 64-bit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RHBLV7F/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_TxHUDbNZ7GEDH

This is a much better deal https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?keywords=gaming+pc&qid=1571615867&sr=8-6 if you have a bit more go for https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Blaze-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B07RHBLV7F/ref=mp_s_a_1_13?keywords=gaming+pc&qid=1571615867&sr=8-13

I recently purchased this PC and it runs great imo.

https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Blaze-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B07RHBLV7F

https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Blaze-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B07RHBLV7F/

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looking through amazon that seemed like a pretty good deal.

I found these 2, but for the life of me I couldn't find one with 16GB or RAM.

$710 - CYBERPOWERPC - i5-9400F, B360, GTX 1660, 8GB (1x8GB, 2400), 240GB SSD, 1TB HDD, WiFi

$660 - SkyTech - Ryzen 5 2600, GTX 1660, 8GB (1x8GB, 3000), 500G SSD, WiFi

I'm leaning towards the Ryzen pc. I like the faster memory, and while it has less storage, I personally would prefer the larger 500GB SSD over an 240GB SSD + 1TB HDD combo.

One thing to also keep in mind is that it is a single stick of memory. Having 8GB of RAM in dual channel (2 sticks that are 4GB each) is better than single channel (1 stick that is 8GB), but having a single 8GB stick means that in the future, if you do decide to upgrade to 16GB, you will be able to run the most ideal RAM setup for gaming (2 sticks that are 8GB each)

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For reference:

1 stick of RAM that is 8GB 3000 would cost around $30-40. It's a large margin cause ideally you want to buy the same model that is in your current rig so they match. While it isn't required, running RAM at the same speed and latency (and same DRAM cache modules) is ideal.

1-2TB HDDs are around $30-50

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Both of these are also very easy to install.

Now I need to decide if I just buy this below https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Blaze-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B07RHBLV7F/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=SkyTech+Blaze+II+Gaming+Computer+PC&qid=1573566582&s=electronics&sr=1-2&linkCode=ll1&tag=leon098-20&linkId=de4a1066671c0227d65b039c3cd96ad5&language=en_US
It seems like the Amazon one might have a what ever power supply and I need to buy more RAM.
Or build myself one base of what we discuss in here. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nj2hyk

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Okay thank you so much for the advice. Which prebuilt system would you recommend? I have been looking at the following; (the cheapest option would be best, but I'd really like to be able to stream games as well so I don't mind compromising price for that)

-https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1518725225&sr=8-3&keywords=gaming+desktop&dpID=51n3tUIpoSL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

-https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Ultra-Gaming-Desktop-AM900Z/dp/B073RKHY2H/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1518721735&sr=1-4&keywords=ibuypower+gaming+desktop

https://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-GXi10200A-Desktop-i7-7700-7200RPM/dp/B00IMOND82/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1518725225&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=gaming+desktop&psc=1

-https://www.amazon.com/HP-Desktop-Computer-GeForce-880-010/dp/B0718ZGQNY/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1518725000&sr=1-7&keywords=hp+omen+desktop&dpID=41nf2xuF90L&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

-https://www.amazon.com/880-Performance-Desktop-i7-8700K-Windows/dp/B0792XZP57/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1518721615&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=hp+omen+desktop&psc=1

but maybe you know a better prebuilt?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
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CPU | Intel - Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor | $289.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard | Gigabyte - GA-B250M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $81.49 @ SuperBiiz
Memory | Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory | $97.99 @ Newegg
Storage | SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $83.88 @ OutletPC
Storage | Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $39.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card | $334.98 @ Newegg
Case | Corsair - SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case | $39.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $67.98 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1066.29
| Mail-in rebates | -$30.00
| Total | $1036.29
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-11 14:44 EDT-0400 |

If you don't feel like building this comes with Windows which would be another $85

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXi10200A-Desktop-i7-7700-7200RPM/dp/B00IMOND82/

hi, im new here and i just have a few questions.

between:
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXi10200A-Desktop-i7-7700-7200RPM/dp/B00IMOND82/ref=sr_1_33?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1498820325&sr=1-33

or

https://www.amazon.com/CybertronPC-Rhodium-950-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01CSE0TVK/ref=sr_1_49?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1498820898&sr=1-49

which is better for games like Overwatch or PlayerUnknown Battlegrounds? and which will be also good for future games. thanks

I'm not an expert, however I have seen 1060 6gb + i7 7700 prebuilts for only 100 or so more.

This

Thank you so much for the detailed response! Yeah, I've put together quite a few Frankenstein computers in my day, and I know I could build one without issue. It's just the time factor for me. I will keep your parts suggestions in mind though. I'm not buying for a couple weeks and I could always be swayed in that direction.

Does this look better though?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00IMOND82/ref=psdcmw_13896597011_t3_B01NBLH6JF

That is better but do you know if it really is a 1-2 month wait for it? Would it be worth it? And how would this stack up

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00IMOND82/ref=mp_s_a_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1496787723&sr=8-11&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gaming+pc

Okay thanks bro. So I'm doing my final bit of research and wondering if I just bought this setup on Amazon..how close it would be to yours. Amazon computer CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme GXi10200A Desktop

Really appreciate the help mighty. Here is the PC I got:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00IMOND82/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It has no VGA hookups, so my only option is HDMI or DVI, but I'm not sure I'm getting that to work right. I plugged the HDMI portion into my monitor and the DVI portion into the PC and it's not picking anything up. Here are my monitors:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00CPCIPSU/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/M32CD-Desktop-Windows-Keyboard-Mouse/dp/B014QVM2KO

> How is it working with 6th gen? 6th gen is DDR4

Magic? I don't know that level of detail to be honest -- I assume Asus grabbed a motherboard compatible with both and I just added to it. The core box I started with is this box if you want to see more details

Here's my desktop setup. Cheap but powerful setup should allow you to get a badass 4k monitor too.

http://www.amazon.com/M32CD-Desktop-Windows-Keyboard-Mouse/dp/B014QVM2KO

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015DXHEAW/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00SN6VN7W/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Someone from another post here suggested this asus prebuilt pc from amazon not too long ago. for $430.00 on amazon thats a great deal for an i5 skylake platform.

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/3xfm62/console_peasant_needing_advice_on_prebuilt_ibp_pc/

Does any think that this Gigabyte 1060 6G would fit in this prebuilt case?

my mother in law wanted a pc for her son, to use it for homework and i bought her that on M32CD for $400 almost the same that in the video, but without the gpu. it depends on your needs, you won't be able to upgrade in the future without having to buy a new case, psu etc..

Get this, it's cheaper and I technically have the same exact PC (except I have an AMD A10 w/ 750Ti I put in it).

But to answer your question, it should provided there is a cable for the SSD.

If you really want to do it, maybe you can look into seeing if there are computer labs around to get you by and give you enough time to get a more capable machine? I guess I think it would be a shame for you not to pursue something you might very well love because of equipment. We all start on less than optimal equipment.

With that being said, it's not just a surface pro or nothing. You just went to the top of the line with that choice.

You might consider a lesser laptop (i5 at least with large amount of RAM) or even a desktop?

For example, here is a mid grade laptop for $449 at amazon that has an i5 processor and 8GB of ram. It's no Surface Pro, but it should get you by. I understand this is still a shit ton of money for a student possible, but it is half of what you were planning to spend.

Here is a desktop (without monitor) for under $500. Very upgradable in the future!

Also perhaps it would be wise to look at Newegg.com and build your own desktop machine. You can save a ton of money, get exactly what you need, and they are pretty easy to put together.

and this is a great traditional option, with Win 10, standard memory and all that
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B014QVM2KO/ref=sr_1_1_olp?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1454076478&sr=1-1&condition=used

get a office prebuilt with a alot of them come with strong CPU's like i5's etc, then make sure the motherboard support a r9 280X and a extra ram kit and he should be good to go. just dont get ANYTHING that says ''ultimate GAAAYYYMER PC'' on it. etc something like this EDIT: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014QVM2KO just replace the PSU with a evga 500b cost like 30 bucks and install the GPU and he will be good to go. with a legit win 10 copy, a i5 6400 (its meh for gaming) a 1tb hdd and 8gb of ram

So here's my take on that first PC. It's a fair price for what you get, for sure. BUT, what you get is really unimpressive. It reaches the minimum requirements for skyrim but falls short of the recommended specs. I mean, when I was into PC gaming back in high school, I always had pretty terrible PC's, but I just kind of made due and had a good time. I'm not saying that if you buy that PC you'll for sure regret it, but it's definitely pretty behind the times.

Here's one for a bit more but is a lot better:
http://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Archangel-ST-FX6300-8GB1TB-GTX750TI-Computer-FX-6300/dp/B01CUZKM3C/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1464314253&sr=1-3&keywords=gaming+pc

With the one I just recommended, I tried to put a similar build together on PCPartpicker and it came in around 500 with an operating system.

So, my conclusion is that you can get an alright PC if you buy prebuilt, and you could very well be happy with it if you don't want to mess with putting it together. But honestly, it's pretty easy to put it together. And when you say you're not tech savvy, that's alright, you don't have to be. It's like people who say they're bad at cooking. There's no such thing. It just boils down to following directions. Can you follow directions? Unless you're a slug, the answer is yes. Then you can cook or build a PC or do whatever it is you're trying to do.

Here are computer towers I am comparing: this "workhorse" and this "gamer" computer. The comments in the "workhorse" computer's FAQ says it doesnt play some games very well, so I assume that means it wont do video editing very well, right? However, maybe it is really good at processing programs (like the video editor). At the same time, I don't know if a computer designed for games is right for running a video editing program long-term, since it wasn't designed for that. However, the fact that it has a high rate of processing and a good video card makes it seem like a good match.

Edit: The video editing software is VSDC.

Funny thing is that the computer itself didn’t come with a manual or anything else documenting exactly what model it was, so I had to guess, but I’m pretty sure it’s the Skytech Archangel or otherwise something very similar.

and one last question, how might this one run BeamNG? thanks. And thanks for all the replys and suggestions. Hate decisions lol

It's a prebuilt

https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Archangel-ST-FX6300-8GB1TB-GTX750TI-Computer-FX-6300/dp/B01CUZKM3C

Via google reverse image search, this company makes PC using it

I'm trying to find out if the case is available separately, but it doesn't look like it.

https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Archangel-ST-FX6300-8GB1TB-GTX750TI-Computer-FX-6300/dp/B01CUZKM3C

What case is this? https://ssl-images.newegg.com/productimage/A08C_131224384392466055uTR3J4Aj1v.jpg

edit: Should've clarified, it's part of this build but I can't determine if the case is sold separately.

Double edit: I emailed both Skytech (the prebuilt maker) and Thermaltake (the case maker) to see if they will sell them seperately. I did find this which is close.

Yeah! I was looking at something like that actually. Do they like it?

This is what I'm considering if I don't build my own.
https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Archangel-ST-FX6300-8GB1TB-GTX750TI-Computer-FX-6300/dp/B01CUZKM3C

Not very tech saavy, I've this [PC] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CUZKM3C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) and a friend of mine suggested i upgrade to this graphics card, is it as simple as replacing the cards or are there other things i should look out for, any help would be appreciated :D

Actually get this one, it's better for barely anymore money https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01CUZKM3C/ref=psdcmw_13896597011_t1_B01CUYNBHW

a lot of shitty choices on amazon tbh. This was best I could find in 5 min https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GUA4500A-FX-6300-GTX1060-Desktop/dp/B01ICLADUA/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1519811160&sr=1-7&keywords=gaming+pc&refinements=p_36%3A80000-100000

Says it ships in 1 to 2 months tho :/

The PC I'm getting has a amd 760g/sb710 chipset mobo, probably the most limited part of the build, considering it's top cpu is amd fx 8730 iirc. Would this be easy to upgrade in the future with along with a i5-7600k or something of that nature? Here is the prebuilt I'm buying. Yeah yeah build your own.

Wondering about, when I do upgrade, if a new motherboard capable of supporting higher end i5/i7 cpu's is feasible. Thanks in advance, you guys are super helpful.

Thank you for breaking it down. I'm still pretty new at this. Hopefully last question.
I saw someone post this one
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GUA4500A-FX-6300-GTX1060-Desktop/dp/B01ICLADUA

Looks like the main difference is fx-6300 vs Ryzen and 16gb ddr3 vs 8gb ddr4.
Is Ryzen worth the difference between the two?

is it just me or are there deals way too good for prebuilts?

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GUA4500A-FX-6300-GTX1060-Desktop/dp/B01ICLADUA%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAI62SSPLIHX7AR6PA%26tag%3Dsnapsort-625-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB01ICLADUA

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXi10040A-i7-6700K-Desktop/dp/B01LPZKYJ0/ref=lp_3023694011_1_16?srs=3023694011&ie=UTF8&qid=1480713471&sr=8-16&th=1

I would recommend something more like this. It's a much better deal IMO and would be much better for Blender. The computer you chose doesn't have a video card, and video cards are generally faster for rendering if you set the tile sizes right.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GUA4500A-FX-6300-GTX1060-Desktop/dp/B01ICLADUA/ref=sr_1_17?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1479833677&sr=1-17&keywords=gaming+desktop

This is one of them. I kind of guesstimated on the pricing, but you can see for yourself.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01ICLADUA/ref=mp_s_a_1_35?ie=UTF8&qid=1511536029&sr=1-35&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&dpPl=1&dpID=51Std8O8KfL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1

Is this a good pc for the price?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01ICLADUA/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1523037196&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=cyberpower+ultra&dpPl=1&dpID=51Std8O8KfL&ref=plSrch

Does this cut it too close?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01ICLADUA/ref=mp_s_a_1_29?ie=UTF8&qid=1493000786&sr=8-29&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=vr+ready+pc&dpPl=1&dpID=51Std8O8KfL&ref=plSrch

This was my response before

You clearly underestimate how long 2 hours really last. If you're playing a game, getting really pissed off and not enjoying your time after 1 hour, it would be reasonable to not want to own the game anymore. You mentioned PC games running worse than consoles. Even if that were true, you could just refund the game until the company optimizes it much better (which is what people did when Arkham Knight came out; and W.B Games actually listened to them)

I'm sorry I didn't cite my sources last time. So I'll do it this time https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/10/game-stop-shares-fall-after-second-quarter-profit-and-revenue-miss.html https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/09/10/gamestop-store-closings-2019-retailer-closing-up-200-stores/2279343001/ https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/06/08/how-much-did-gamestops-sales-fall.aspx

"Where are these companies that make PCs that will stomp console? Never mind it’s in fantasy land" I dunno man. NZXT BLD and OriginPC seem pretty real. Also a prebuilt PC with an RX 580 and a Ryzen 7 2700 CPU only costs about $650 https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=gaming+PC&qid=1568421808&s=gateway&sr=8-6

Oh I can't ever accept that I'm wrong? I'm sorry, I guess the word objective just completely disappeared from the english dictionary. I guess Better Framerats, Graphics, Upgrade-able hardware, free online, convenience, options, freedoms don't exist to you. Also, don't compare me to liberals. The liberals you're thinking of are completely closed minded.

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  The fact that you have to use ad hominem attacks in your rebuttle clearly shows how emotionally attached you are to your stance on this subject.
  
  
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  I know you're probably not the biggest fan of me, but if you ever change your mind about PC gaming, then here's an alternative to building your PC or buying a $600 prebuilt. Get a PC like the Dell Optiplex 7010 which actually has no proprietary parts as far as I'm concerned https://www.amazon.com/Dell-OptiPlex-7010-Minitower-Desktop/dp/B01K0GNUOG/ref=sxin_3_sxwds-bovbs?keywords=dell+optiplex+7010&pd_rd_i=B01K0GNUOG&pd_rd_r=05da0e7d-1fb9-45c2-ac21-d8943f19ee8d&pd_rd_w=zQkzL&pd_rd_wg=Mou8g&pf_rd_p=b866bc3b-cfe5-45c1-897c-a8525a3335d9&pf_rd_r=5DFECSZRTKW3165Y70EN&qid=1568423180&s=gateway
  
  Then what you can do is replace the PSU inside of it with a 3rd party PSU from EVGA, Corsair or Seasonic. Make sure that it's either 80+ or 80+ bronze certified at the very least. After that, you can add pretty much any GPU (the RX 570 4gb is definitely a recommendation) and there you go. You can basically play any game at 1080p60 medium-high settings. An rx 570 is only about $130-150 and a psu like the one I mentioned is about $35-50.
  
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  So what? Did I win the argument? Were my points stupid? Is there nothing more to respond to?

Dell Optiplex 7010

There is a link to the pc. I am new to this so I don’t know what to look for.
Also can I expect similar performance out of the RX 570?

Something like this is a ton better: https://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Desktop-Tower-AMD-Ryzen-5-2400G-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1050-Graphics-1TB-HDD-8GB-SDRAM-DVD-Mouse-Keyboard-Shadow-Black-Green-LED-Light/755857361?findingMethod=wpa&tgtp=1&cmp=15510&relRank=1&tax=3944_3951_132982_1231068_1224739&pt=sp&adgrp=16495&bt=1&plmt=1145x345_B-C-OG_TI_2-20_HL-BOTTOM-NY&wpa_qs=O8l5Q7UDLeFQomP-VyteKLsbf-3FHzyaCOQq1ZUrnZJZGGlcX5OokGXGVNTzijntmqyesCZMemhY8n960MdGiJVPZPLk6G6e7oLSAhZoSJk&bkt=&mLoc=bottom&pgid=pc-computer&isSlr=false&itemId=755857361&relUUID=5244512e-f6da-48b7-a62d-90317645a953&adUid=0da30d70-eb24-42fc-82fe-72cd1504938a&adiuuid=4f79b7d5-6466-4fb3-90a0-8a57ea55b084&adpgm=wpa&pltfm=desktop

But I could see getting a cheaper tower and the buying a 1050 gpu and putting that in. In this case it has the 1050 and 8 gig ram.

Maybe something like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-OptiPlex-7010-Minitower-Desktop/dp/B01K0GNUOG/ref=sr_1_40?ie=UTF8&qid=1543247737&sr=8-40&keywords=pc+computer

Like this? https://www.amazon.com/Dell-OptiPlex-7010-Minitower-Desktop/dp/B01K0GNUOG/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_147_bs_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=VREQTYKEMCEPNXTFCQ1S&th=1

It really depends on what you are needing it for. If you're looking for just a general good deal then there's usually refurbished ones that businesses or schools upgraded from that you can either find locally or online.

Here's one I recommend to a lot of the customers at my work to run their point of sale server
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K0GNUOG/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_SfH5CbMYHRXAV

Try to be more specific about your price range and usage, and maybe I can suggest something else.

What kind of gaming are you interested in, and what kind of workloads do you realistically think you'll do?

Above, someone listed a build for $400, but its missing monitor and keyboard and mouse, that's not really going to work. It would be better to get something like a refurbished Dell with a 3rd Gen i5, and add a GPU.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-3470-vs-Intel-Celeron-G3900/2771vsm86156

Amazon as an example

Even Better with an 3rd gen i7 and a small ssd.

You can likewise buy used GPUs as well. I don't know the used market very well, so hopefully someone can point you in that direction.

The benefit here or something like this, is it comes with a windows licence. Currently and generally those are about $100 by themselves, or 20-25% of your budget, unless you were looking to set sail or use a sketchy site. With an older prebuilt, you can find documentation and even build guides on installing GPU for your particular model. Absolute extreme work around is getting an PCI extension cable to pull the gpu out of the case.

Limitations with this is an older GPU of an SKU level will not be as resilient long term. I'm actually finally no longer exceeding recommend spec on new video games running the 4th gen i7 (it's been solid), so latest and greatest this will not do, but latest and low or medium specs at 1080 should be fine for the next few years.

If you're interested in upgrading components as you go, going with a prebuilt like the used Dells above will not be advisable as they tend to not keep standards, but if you're comfortable to do so, do it. I would recommend adding a swear jar instead: everytime you daydream about parts or complain about low textures or slow parts, add some change or dollar to a jar. Eventually you'll save up enough money and resentment to buy the things you think you want but don't fill that emptiness in your soul any more than what you have.

I'm really curious what kind of budgeting or miracles are you performing to sell a prebuilt to buy a Macbook? Outside of specific programs that run better or exclusively on Mac, even buying a used Mac meant a premium of what the hardware can do.

TLDR: PC gaming is like buying a boat: far more expensive than you think going in, there's always something to spend more money on. And the days where you really feel the sun and the wind and the water are far fewer than you realize when you spend the money.

Dell i7-4790 with 8GB Ram

Dedicated computer. The link shows an i5, but I received an i7.

BV-Tech POE switch

4 Reolink RLC-410's

BI is the full licensed version.

I bought this for $779 in September. ASUS Core i5 Performance Gaming Desktop [G11CD-WB51] GeForce GTX 1070, 8GB 2133Mhz DDR4, 1TB HDD, Intel Core i5-6400 Quad Core 2.7GHz processor, VR Ready https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K1JWCAK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_uAKDAb56RQTCT

Put a 512gb SSD and 8gb more ddr4 memory. All in total I am in it for about $900 and it runs great.

I have seen it close to that price again from time to time both on Amazon and other retailers.

Only get a laptop if portability is important. Otherwise desktop is cheaper. I have had good luck with Asus products such as:

https://www.amazon.com/Performance-Desktop-G11CD-WB51-GeForce-processor/dp/B01K1JWCAK/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1497733480&sr=8-6&keywords=asus+vr+pc+1070

I have one of these. They https://www.amazon.com/Performance-Desktop-G11CD-WB51-GeForce-processor/dp/B01K1JWCAK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1504024561&sr=8-2&keywords=asus+pcwork great and the price is great with a gtx 1070 in it

This one has a proper desktop i5 cpu and a gtx 1070 for slightly over 800: https://www.amazon.com/Performance-Desktop-G11CD-WB51-GeForce-processor/dp/B01K1JWCAK

I have zero experience building a PC but really want to make the switch from consoles for this game. How would this pre built deal on amazon stack up? Thanks.

ASUSG11CD-WB51

Hmm here's a 1070 and i5 for $780

https://www.amazon.com/Performance-Desktop-G11CD-WB51-GeForce-processor/dp/B01K1JWCAK?

https://www.amazon.com/Performance-Desktop-G11CD-WB51-GeForce-processor/dp/B01K1JWCAK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1505649428&sr=8-2&keywords=gtx+1070+pc

Here's one with an i5 and a GTX 1070 :) You save ~$200.
I got a ryzen 1600 and GTX 1060 instead. :) I'm proud of it.

This is probably your best bet

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01K1JWCAK/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1485623726&sr=8-7&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gtx+1070+desktop&dpPl=1&dpID=41a1eNB0mVL&ref=plSrch

As a i5+1070 combo would be better than an i7+1060

Really hard to beat this deal for the price at $785 (obviously lesser specs but its almost 1/2 the price with the same GPU):

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B01K1JWCAK/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1511134883&sr=8-1&keywords=ASUS+Core+i5+Performance+Gaming+Desktop

Even if he can't build his own machine, a monkey could add a ram stick and an SSD (not needed but possible future upgrade).

This machine has the same GPU but with i5-6400 instead of i7-7700k... and guess what? At 1080P Resolution, You'll get nearly identical performance in nearly every case for $785 versus $1299. Toss in a 250gb ssd for $40 and another 8gb of ram for $40 and you an incredible machine only you saved $450.

So, I am looking at this pc it is 1000 on amazon.

goodbuy?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01K1JWCAK/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza

Do you mind if it's a desktop? If not
desktop

If I cut the SSD which I'm leaning towards doing, are there any advantages to buying this and making it over just purchasing this?

I like this one as it's cheaper. Cheaper the better. I looked at this one and noticed a similar PC. I see that this is a little behind in specs but for the price difference, would you say it could be worth it? Does the Acer have anyhing exceptionally better?

Im sorry, But at that pricepoint a prebuilt PC will be a ripoff, any reason why you can't build one.

I would suggest getting a decent prebuilt PC and sticking in a GTX 1050/1050ti

Edit: found this

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Ideacentre-Desktop-Computer-90DA00LPUS/dp/B01KLSMWVA/ref=sr_1_10?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1498177427&sr=1-10&keywords=Desktop+computer.

Stick in a gtx 1050 and you'll be good to go, and still under budget.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KLSMWVA/

Full tower, so you can manually upgrade it later if need be. Would run the game on medium-high~ish detail.

I'm currently looking at this model. It's for very basic family use: Word (which I know I'll have to buy Office to get it), business affairs, basic internet surfing, e-mail, YouTube. And that's about it. Nothing too major.

I'm confused about Worksword. I think Works was phased out but we currently use the Worksword template unless otherwise specified to the person/s we're sending a specific document to. So I don't know if PC's come with Worksword anymore. I think they do.

While this is heathanous here, something with a modern i3 and then a GTX 1050 would do better for less.

The 460 and the 1050(Ti) are all cards that will rarely have issues with being slapped into a prebuilt.

They would prefer a desktop. Someone suggested

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-inspiron-3650-desktop-intel-core-i3-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-silver/4826902.p?skuId=4826902
and
https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Ideacentre-300-Computer-90DA00LPUS/dp/B01KLSMWVA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481004452&sr=8-1&keywords=core+i3+6100+desktop

I don't necessarily want to build because they would like it in 1-2 weeks. Their old one was a built computer my friend put together for me... windows vista. I gutted the parts... but dont have a case, OS, mobo, cpu, and ram.

Looking around on Amazon you can get this Lenovo computer for $329 which covers all of the minimum specs except for the graphics card but you can get this Radeon HD6450 which should cover you on that front too.

Hope this helps get you started somewhere at least. Also, I should mention I play on PS4 as well and my knowledge of computers is mediocre at best so take this with a grain of salt.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01KLSMWVA/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481227752&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=i3+desktop+windows+10+8gb&dpPl=1&dpID=418o8f0UHZL&ref=plSrch

On second thought, is it even worth building? Isnt this essentially the same?

So my friend wants to get his mother a new desktop for basic browsing and videos. I was wondering if this would work

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Desktop-i5-7400-Windows-TC-780-AMZKi5/dp/B01N5SXZY8/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_147_bs_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=JEDN93D4HQJ1MSM2Z9XY

(specs are i5-7400, 8GB DDR4, 2TB HDD; around $449)

or would I be able to build something cheaper? (hopefully include sdd maybe)

What do you think about this? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N5SXZY8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_CDZqzbWX87JHY

Yes to both, but don't go anywhere near that Alienware. If you're set on one of these two, do your self a favor and get the HP.

But it's still not a great system for the price. I found basically the same system for $350 less on Amazon. With the money you save, you can buy a 6gb version of the GTX 1060 (the best buy system has a 3gig model), and still have $100 left in your pocket.

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Desktop-i5-7400-Windows-TC-780-AMZKi5/dp/B01N5SXZY8/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1496749192&sr=1-5&keywords=desktop+computer

This is the one he is looking at. I wanted to see if there was a build that he could put together that would be better.

Does it make any sense to buy this PC and then install my GTX 1060 GPU? The GPU is the only thing I have left from my old PC build, and it works fine... and I figure that at this price, the rest of this build is good enough for me.

Does that make sense?

Okay, so this is my first time with a PC and a desk. Right now I have a PC with no modifications (yet), and an Astro headset for my Xbox. Also an Xbox one,and some speakers.

I want to improve my setup for gaming.

I am looking at a new keyboard

Also a mouse

A mousepad

Some headphones

And a gpu

Any feedback or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

My guess, based on your responses so far, is that you have had bad experience with laptops because you bought something off the shelf because the price was right instead of it being what was best for what you wanted. If that is the case, no matter how much better the linked system is than your current laptop, you would see only negligible improvements. The reason is that all in ones, like cheaper laptops, don't have any room for air flow, and no options for custom cooling. So, all of your components will get hot more easily, and your performance will suffer.

If you're totally against a custom, then I would look at something like this https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Desktop-i5-7400-Windows-TC-780-AMZKi5/dp/B01N5SXZY8/ref=sr_1_24?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1492193601&sr=1-24&keywords=ibuypower
with an Asus 23" gaming monitor for ~125.00, you're looking at close to the same price. I don't recommend acer, but this would give you better results than what you linked.

My favorite PCMR memory is getting my first serious PC.

It was two parts, this computer and an EVGA 1050Ti 4GB card.

It was a stressful time, trying to put in the card, but once it clicked in, I was ready to go! Still have this desktop to this day and it's going strong!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01N5SXZY8/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1498665843&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=desktop

I have this one, 70 fps on med-low settings 720p

Hi, I just bought a Prebuilt PC, the ACer Aspire https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Desktop-i3-7100-Windows-TC-780-ACKi3/dp/B071DM6TWM/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1519074342&sr=1-5&keywords=acer+aspire

I have put in a Graphics Card, and was wondering If I could slot in a M.2 (I think thats what its called) SSD, or if it is incompatible with Acer's software. There is a slot to insert it, but im not sure that it is compatible. Thanks.

Really difficult to recommend building a computer over taking a pre-built presently. The inflated RAM and GPU prices are harsh enough, if your Windows license is non-transferable it's practically a no-brainer if you're on a budget.

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Desktop-i3-7100-Windows-TC-780-ACKi3/dp/B071DM6TWM/

https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-DisplayPort-Dual-Link-Graphics-ZT-P10500A-10L/dp/B01M4MIU94/

As of this writing, you could buy the former and plug in the latter for a total of $505 or so. It should render most games comfortably playable on 1080p with good settings.

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-580-023w-i5-7400-Graphics/dp/B077S27YLP/

If you're looking for something a fair amount stronger, there's the HP 580-023w rocking an i5-7400 and GTX 1060 for $680 (and no hunt for a decent price GPU necessary).

It's only really around the $900+ mark that building yourself should really become a consideration in my opinion.

damn, this is starting to go a bit over my head. What's the benefit of a say, ITX or MATx system over a pre-built amazon budget PC...just size?

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Desktop-i3-7100-Windows-TC-780-ACKi3/dp/B071DM6TWM/ref=zg_bs_565098_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=GN0WG68FQST9BWTXYQWK

This or this? Id probably pick a lower end computer to reduce power consumption costs.

This one could work and last without being too expensive. There's an i5 version for about $100 more, I wouldn't consider it necessary for web browsing and such but that'd be up to you. It would be smart to eventually add an SSD and move Windows onto it to make everything run a lot smoother, you can get one for under $50.

If you go with something else, generally what you want to pay attention to is the CPU (i3, etc.) and RAM. For the RAM, you want DDR4. If it has DDR3 it's old hardware that won't last as long. For the CPU, i3 i5 and i7 are deceiving and don't mean all that much. If it says it has less than four cores pull the breaks, if they make it intentionally difficult to figure out what generation the CPU is pull the breaks. We are currently on the 8th generation (i3-8100 for example) with the 9th generation coming out soon. I came across a few listings that kept sneakily advertising the computer had an i5 with 3.20 GHz. Sounds powerful enough, right? Nope, it was an i5 650. 1st gen. Slow as molasses.

In your opening post, it said that the laptop you were looking at was $500. For $400, you can get this basic PC.

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Then for another $129, you can slip this basic 1050 into it. (I'd recommend getting a 1050 ti if you can, but you'll be fine with the basic 1050 if your budget is that tight)

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So for just another $30 above what you were looking to spend, you can get a waaaaaaay more bang-for-your-buck AND you'll be able to upgrade components later if you so wish (maybe another stick of memory, the processor, the graphics card). If you go with a laptop you'll be getting way less performance for your dollar AND you'll be stuck with it as-is; no upgrades in your future unless you just replace the whole thing.

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Hope this helps.

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the new case is a NZXT Source 210




here’s the PC from acer: https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Desktop-i3-7100-Windows-TC-780-ACKi3/dp/B071DM6TWM/ref=mp_s_a_1_13?keywords=acer+desktop+i3+8100&qid=1558474481&s=gateway&sr=8-13

$500 is a little low if you want something that is more future proof as far as gaming goes. At that price, you're going to have lower end power supplies, entry level to mid range parts, or older parts.


That said, here are 2 that might work.


[ASUS Desktop Computer M32AD-US072S Intel Core i5 4th Gen 4460 (3.20 GHz) 8 GB DDR3 1 TB HDD NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 Windows 8.1 64-Bit] (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883221401)


or


[Acer Aspire Desktop, 7th Gen Intel Core i3-7100, 8GB DDR4, 1TB HDD, Windows 10 Home, TC-780-ACKi3] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071DM6TWM/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=) for this you might want to install a graphics card like a RX 460 or GTX 1050 for gaming.


similar to what Austin Evans did in this vid
[Should You Upgrade a Prebuilt Gaming PC?] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J81h1dHNwDk)

These three are solid deals and newer generation Intel processors.
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Desktop-i3-7100-Windows-TC-780-ACKi3/dp/B071DM6TWM/ref=sr_1_1?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1520361433&sr=1-1&refinements=p_6%3AATVPDKIKX0DER%2Cp_36%3A2421880011

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Desktop-i5-7400-Windows-TC-780-ACKI5/dp/B073YHNPC6/ref=sr_1_2?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1520361433&sr=1-2&refinements=p_6%3AATVPDKIKX0DER%2Cp_36%3A2421880011

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-570-p010/dp/B06XGMLQPY/ref=sr_1_3?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1520361433&sr=1-3&refinements=p_6%3AATVPDKIKX0DER%2Cp_36%3A2421880011

Better than the archaic AMD ones at the same price. I don't know why none of AMD's new ryzen lines are showing up anywhere though. A tower with the new ryzen 2200g/2400g would be a great all around desktop even doing mild gaming.

I built one just cause but be warned the older boards may not have the newer bios for AMD's new APU's
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X3gkLJ

Both Dell monitors have 1 DP and 1 VGA port.

The Acer Aspire has 1 HDMI port and 1 VGA port.

Therefore, you can use the VGA port for one of the monitors and get an HDMI->DP converter for the other monitor. The adapter will change the HDMI signal from your PC to a DP signal.

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-E2416HM-G0RH1-24-0-Monitor/dp/B01LY59FT7

"Connectivity : DP and VGA"

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Desktop-i3-7100-Windows-TC-780-ACKi3/dp/B071DM6TWM?th=1

"1 - HDMI Port, 1 - VGA Port"

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Desktop-i3-7100-Windows-TC-780-ACKi3/dp/B071DM6TWM/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1506281448&sr=1-6&keywords=i3+7100

I was looking at the i3 7100, is this a good option? can i just pop a 1050ti in there and be good to go? Thanks!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B071DM6TWM/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1517875430&sr=8-8&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=acer+aspire

I didnt have a choice but gor this prebuilt

The challenges I faced was mainly the cost of trying to get a gaming PC and the goal I am aiming next is playing good AAA games at high quality and without lagging.

You can get a PC that can play any game in existence for $700. The vast majority of them on high or even ultra graphics, on most monitors, including yours. If league is your main game, even on max graphics settings, you will see literally no difference whatsoever between this and a $700 PC like this one: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A3-Desktop-Graphics-802-11AC/dp/B071NG75BW/ref=dp_ob_title_ce?th=1

This is the build you get if you want to play every possible game simultaneously on 3 4k displays for the next several years. Even then, you only need a CPU strong enough to make full use of the graphics card. Any more is a waste for gaming. And very few games will see a significant benefit, from more than 8 gb of ram.

If your education and bills are being entirely paid for by someone else, go ahead. If not, this seems like an incredibly wasteful purchase.

Actually im sorry but i cant, want me to send you the link of the pc?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071NG75BW/ref=twister_B01N7RWESK?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

The build u/Ryan_JK posted is a solid deal. This one would be slightly better since it comes with WiFi, but it is out of stock.

Ok, so the most upvoted comment is definitely really useful. But this is a 719.99 PC which will run most games at ultra 60fps at 1080p. Unfortunately, i have the old version of this pc, but this one is an upgraded version and is much better than mine. Its a pre-built, but the value is a lot cheaper than you building the pc yourself.

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8020A3 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 580 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, 802.11AC WIFI, Win 10 Home), Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071NG75BW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_6W5HzbJNSFQ41

Please consider taking a look at it. You definitely wont be disappointed with it.

I have this PC https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071NG75BW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_cfBNAbXX32GTS
Only thing different is that I have 12 gb of ram, and actually about WoW, it's fine, it's only in really populated areas the fps goes down, so I think it's normal.

If you would be interested in building a PC to get more bang for your buck go to /r/buildapc and ask them to make a build for you. Otherwise id recomend this or maybe this prebuilt PC, they would be more than enough to run Overwatch around the highest settings at 1080p.

¿Por qué el Ryzen 5 1600? ¿Piensas crear contenido, hacer streaming o algo que ocupe tantos núcleos?, Porque la verdad si solo lo piensas usar para jugar, te conviene mejor comprar un i3 7100 o un i5 7400.

Otra cosa realmente la quieres armar, es un poco tedioso e incluso difícil si no tienes experiencia. Te podría salir mas barato comprar una pc ya armada:

https://www.amazon.com.mx/Gamer-Ryzen-1600-Nvidia-1050/dp/B071WST7K1/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1503408344&sr=8-2&keywords=ryzen+5+1600+pc+gamer

https://www.amazon.com.mx/CyberpowerPC-gma3000-5-1400-3-1060-3-GB-7200-RPM/dp/B06Y92RJZZ/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1503408344&sr=8-2-fkmr2&keywords=ryzen+5+1600+pc+gamer

https://www.amazon.com.mx/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A3-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B071NG75BW/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1503408935&sr=8-5&keywords=i5+pc+gamer

Here another prebuilt for good measure
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B071NG75BW/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1494714708&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=cyberpower+rx+580&dpPl=1&dpID=51q6Vz8rjjL&ref=plSrch

What I did was buy the $700 Cyberpowerpc deal on Amazon, and upgrade components when I have the money/time.

I bought this same build, but with last gen components ( mine was i5 6400 and AMD RX 480). It's an awesome computer that plays VR at default settings.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B071NG75BW/ref=psdcmw_13896597011_t1_B01MT0781S

I'm not sure cause the pc is coming in the mail on thurs and I was just making sure my monitor would work with it. It's my first pc and am really not to fond of computer parts. Heres the link to it if you want to check it out.pc

A bit big but had it for awhile, runs everything well. Only thing that stuggled at urtra quality was Titanfall 2 due to 4gb vram. You could get the RX 580 8gb version instead of 4gb version if that's a concern.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B071NG75BW/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502795731&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=cyberpowerpc&dpPl=1&dpID=51q6Vz8rjjL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1

PC1: Link

PC2 is used.

I essentially just want a decently powerful PC that can run games and VR well.

Thanks again for helping me out with this, I’m very inexperienced with PC parts.

I’ve brought it down to two PC’s. The one above and this one,

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8100A Gaming PC (Intel i7-8700 3.2GHz, 16GB DDR4, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB, 120GB SSD+1TB HDD & Win10 Home) Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0757FV6Y4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_IYl-Bb8QJH7G3

What do y’all think? I know it can’t overclock, but would this still run well?

If you would like to check the build out yourself here’s the Amazon link! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0757FV6Y4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_fX5ZCbHQK075V

This pc has a much worse CPU but a better GPU, SSD, and 16 gigs of RAM. (Extra money for monitor and keyboard/mouse/headset?)

This PC has an 8th gen i7, a 1060, 16 gigs of RAM, an SSD and an HDD (but no extra monies)

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This PC Has a pretty good CPU, a 1060 GPU, an SSD+HDD, but 8gigs of ram. (But is way cheaper so you can install more ram later.

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These GPUs definitely can't last 7 years but can easily last 3-4. Personally I would choose the one in the middle if you really want this for 7 years. If you want something 100% future proof for atleast 5 or 6 years, I would choose this: amazing PC with a big SSD, liquid cooling, a 1070ti with 8 gigs of ram, and a 6-core i7-8700k. This PC is similar

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Lastly, This PC will meet you in the middle with a 6 gig GPU for a long while, 16 gigs of ram, an SSD, and an i7.

Personally I would choose this one if you really want this for 7 years without breaking the bank.

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Again, good luck and let me know if you need anything else. Enjoy!

Are these your current specs?

System: Intel Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core | 16GB DDR4 | 120GB SSD | 1TB HDD | Genuine Windows 10 Home 64-bit


Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB Video Card

Any idea on the wattage of your PSU?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9wdNZR

this should be good, and if you don’t want to get a new graphics card you could spend more money elsewhere in the system.


Or if you don’t want to build it yourself, go for the second link you posted; https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0757FV6Y4/ref=psdcmw_13896597011_t3_B06ZYX8DQ3

I have this PC and want to change out the red rings for RGB. Would Corsair work in this machine? Any suggestions on how to go about this would be greatly appreciated. I've never changed out lights/fans.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0757FV6Y4/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074JLD4HZ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This is what I ended up getting /u/hvrr3k, /u/xWinkler, /u/ejtv, /u/kraziekd, /u/biscuity87. Thanks for the advice!

This doesn’t have an ssd but everything else fits/ is better for $1510

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B076VDYS8F/ref=mp_s_a_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1525446676&sr=8-10&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=i7+8700+gtx+1070

This one has an ssd but is $1620

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075TL8VXD/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1525446771&sr=8-9&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=i7+8700+gtx+1070

If you really want under $1500 this one is $1180 but with a 1060 instead of a 1070

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0757FV6Y4/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1525446851&sr=4&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=4529737223363620266&pd_rd_wg=rRYeO&pf_rd_r=PY0ZC602Q5AYCQVHVER8&pf_rd_s=mobile-sx-bottom-slot&pf_rd_t=9701&pd_rd_i=B0757FV6Y4&pd_rd_w=Yno1M&pf_rd_i=i7+8700+gtx+1070&pd_rd_r=b50f4d2f-166e-495d-9fd4-472583291c5a&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65

https://aax-us-east.amazon-adsystem.com/x/c/QtInUSnVvWtEUS3v9fLCp1MAAAFhkiotXQEAAAFKAZhw3gw/https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-580-130/dp/B075LVK78B/ref=as_at?imprToken=90e7erZeyD.6gzKvIFX8RA&slotNum=0&SubscriptionId=AKIAJQYFXGBZ6MDO67HQ&tag=shopineer-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B075LVK78B

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Found a better (?) machine for about the same cost:

https://www.amazon.ca/Hewlett-Packard-Pavilion-580-130-Desktop/dp/B075LVK78B

From reading around, I think people agree that it is a good deal for what you get. Still $1000 though...

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-580-130/dp/B075LVK78B/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1525766535&sr=1-2&keywords=prebuilt+pc&refinements=p_n_feature_fourteen_browse-bin%3A2057441011
This one looks great... But I'm not sure about the upgradability.
The specs are great for the price however, reading the reviews, many of the machines arrived DOA... So, make sure you do further research upon it.

You can sometimes find AMD RX580 setups for less. I am running a RX480 and all of my games play well. While the desktop 1060 is comparable to a 580, the mobile will be about 25% slower than the AMD.

Example:
https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-580-130/dp/B075LVK78B

I suggest you get this, it's $670 new and it's a much better deal

Will [this] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075LVK78B/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8&qid) run Overwatch well?

Ok dude what PC is better? https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075LVK78B/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1527444566&sr=8-6&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=HP+pavilion+power&dpPl=1&dpID=41zeAkmpqDL&ref=plSrch

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07B6H4GNY/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1527447772&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=cyberpowerpc&dpPl=1&dpID=510JZUGMO6L&ref=plSrch

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B077RX4RKD/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1525728790&sr=8-9&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gaming+desktop&dpPl=1&dpID=41rIpxw2TwL&ref=plSrch
my current PC above got for 500 on sale
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B078K5WZJS/ref=mp_s_a_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1525728790&sr=8-16&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gaming+desktop
Good and build


Edit: found this one great deal!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075LVK78B/ref=mp_s_a_1_34?ie=UTF8&qid=1525730067&sr=8-34&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gaming+desktop&dpPl=1&dpID=41zeAkmpqDL&ref=plSrch

Its not like im married to this line of pc's, i just also happened to see this one and i would be willing to spend a bit more. It has 16gb of ram and an SSD. still has 3gb gpu and im not sure how the AMD compares to the i5. thoughts? and thank you

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-580-148/dp/B076BR99G3/

What are your thoughts on going for a prebuilt like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076BR99G3/ref=psdc_13896597011_t2_B077S27YLP?th=1 for what I need? It seem very similar and surprisingly seems cheaper/about the same as the seperate parts.

That build is pretty solid, the current market for building is pretty bad. Ram and gpu prices are crazy right now.

Normally, I am against pre-builts, but the value is there right now.

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-580-148/dp/B076BR99G3/

That one is on sale now, and is a pretty good value.

Keep an eye on /r/buildapcsales and sort by new. You'll find some good stuff.

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-580-148/dp/B076BR99G3/

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This one looks pretty good to me, but slightly over 700 unfortunately.

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http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-pavilion-power-desktop-580-125rz

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This one is 500, should run OW just fine, but wont hit 60 fps on high for some more demanding games.

Thanks is. What do you think about the PSU? Thought about upgrading it to the 600w. I’m also comparing it to this prebuilt https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-580-148/dp/B076BR99G3/

The value is so good on that prebuilt tho.

Hey guys!

I'm looking to get a decent pre-built, is this the best one for the price?

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-580-148/dp/B076BR99G3

what do you think of this one
https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-580-148/dp/B076BR99G3/ref=as_li_ss_tl?tag=gcgctest-20&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1515797928&sr=1-1&keywords=gaming%2Bpc&refinements=p_36%3A78000-85000&linkCode=ll1&linkId=c17503d21e96505e4ea2d50065cd03ab&th=1

I have a prebuilt pc
This one in particular: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076BR99G3/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Been looking to upgrade the case and psu so I can eventually get a better graphics card that'll actually fit and these cases look great so I might go with one of them. I've never done this before so is this something that's pretty easy to do or recommended? Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask.

What about something like this I saw it at Walmart but wasn't sure

Got my 11 year old This HP Prebuilt (or one very similar) for Christmas. Think it was around $500 at the time. She is able to play anything at max graphics. It also works well for all of her school work.

I preferred to build, but the price point for what's included made it a better option for us. Seems to have pretty decent specs for the price.

hows this look? https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-690-0010/dp/B07BHXTGS8/ref=sr_1_20?keywords=gaming+pc&qid=1557186802&s=gateway&sr=8-20

I’ll consider building one, but how is this?:

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-690-0010/dp/B07BHXTGS8/ref=mp_s_a_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1549059400&sr=8-12&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=gaming+PC

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-690-0010/dp/B07BHXTGS8/ref=sr_1_45?keywords=gaming+pc&qid=1567331816&s=gateway&sr=8-45

Here it is though:

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-690-0010/dp/B07BHXTGS8/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=gaming+desktop+hp&qid=1569979695&sprefix=gaming+desktop+HP&sr=8-3

buy this at least

HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop Computer, AMD Ryzen 3 2200G, AMD Radeon RX 550, 8GB RAM, 1TB hard drive, Windows 10 (690-0010, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHXTGS8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_y7pSDbGQ56RVX

Sorry for formatting ahead of time, I'm on mobile.

This one I found on Amazon isn't bad. It's got an ssd and generally all-around good hardware. Only drawback imo is the 4gb rx 580, but that shouldn't be that big of a problem, especially for the games that you are playing.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D5S3LZM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_VdR-Bb3VHE9S6

Also, do you play on using ethernet or wifi? The build that I have linked does not include a wifi adapter, although they are fairly cheap and easy to install. You could even go with a USB adapter if you really wanted to, but I would recommend an internal adapter.

With the budget of $1,000 building a good system + monitor+ keyboard + mouse + copy of Windows + etc....

At that price point you may want to look into a prebuilt.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D5S3LZM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_-uc.BbW1EMPGW

Speakers:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002FU5QM0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Bxc.BbN3T3251

And a monitor:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GF2ZR8G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_swc.BbYJP0F6G

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Desktop-Graphics-View21-035A/dp/B07D5S3LZM/ref=mp_s_a_1_54?ie=UTF8&qid=1549048251&sr=8-54&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gaming+pc

yes you did. you could get a pc with almost equivalent specs for 799 right now (+8gb ram/ +4c/8t cpu/ -10% gpu perf/ -10% single core cpu perf). for the price of 1750, i would expect a 8700k/1080ti

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Desktop-Graphics-View21-035A/dp/B07D5S3LZM

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D5S3LZM?tag=slicinc-20&ascsubtag=0b99c5f0bf5f11e88c82a6d63f35ac300INT

$799

I would prob go with something like this https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Trace-9220-Overclockable-Motherboard/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1550350055&sr=8-3&keywords=2070+gaming+desktop or this https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8080A3-Overclockable-i7-8700K-Motherboard/dp/B07GG6286Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1550350185&sr=8-3&keywords=2080+gaming+desktop if you insist on not building yourself.

Depends on the price range your looking for and what type of machine; high-end intense graphics, mid-range for just playing MMO's or MoBA's or low-end for mainly movies, music, email and office duties.

Mid-range you usually can find quite a bit of decent options. High-end is were you REALLY need to watch the specs for each "Sale" cause they often like to short something essential in order to offer such a good "deal". For example, they amount of memory, for High-end you really need at least 16 gigs to have a solid build but a lot of "Deals" will leave you with ONLY 8 gigs installed and thus cutting the price that way and calling it a "Deal".

Here's a High-end Deal that looks real nice: https://smile.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Trace-9220-Overclockable-Motherboard/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=sr_1_2?s=black-friday&psr=EY17&ie=UTF8&qid=1542973523&sr=1-2&keywords=desktop+computers

and.. Here's a Mid-range Deal that's pretty good too! - https://smile.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8060A5-i5-8400-GeForce/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=sr_1_1?s=black-friday&psr=EY17&ie=UTF8&qid=1542973523&sr=1-1&keywords=desktop+computers



Hope this helps and happy hunting!

Either processor but go with the highest GPU you can afford. Here is an i7 with a 2070 which is under your budget. I don't think you can get a prebuilt with a 2080 for your budget.

EDIT: OR if you wanna save some money and go with 1 gen older CPU, check out this one.

and finally this??

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=sr_1_30/ref=s9_acss_bw_cg_asd_2b1_w?ie=UTF8&qid=1534024672&sr=8-30&keywords=gaming%2Bpc&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-2&pf_rd_r=2PK3H4QG3BM0CJDZ69JK&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=31d41ad6-7b38-4523-b672-da7d50db34ae&pf_rd_i=8588813011&th=1

do you know cases well? its this one

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Trace-9220-Overclockable-Motherboard/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=ibuypower+case&qid=1571346198&sr=8-6

If you are looking to just buy a PC instead of building, here's one on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01CUZKM3C/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1460644312&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=gaming+pc&dpPl=1&dpID=41LGKH3BuIL&ref=plSrch

Honestly, you might as well just buy a desktop and an ultraportable laptop. Here's a decent option if you don't want to build a PC yourself:

https://www.amazon.com/Performance-Desktop-G11CD-WB51-GeForce-processor/dp/B01K1JWCAK/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1504341020&sr=1-2&keywords=1070

With the GTX 1070, you'll be able to handle pretty much any game at 1080p at 100+ FPS. Invest the rest of your money into a decent ultraportable like a UX330UA or something so you have something that's portable and won't run out of battery before you get to class. Unless you really need something portable and powerful, a desktop + laptop combo will be better 9/10 times.

Usually, with a budget like that, you want to go with a prebuild. Here is a nice option: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KLSMWVA/ref=twister_B01M4HGMFW?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
It is a bit over budget, but it will do what you need it to do.

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR Ready GXiVR8020A3 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel Quad Core i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 580 4GB Graphics, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, 802.11AC WIFI, Win 10 Home), Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071NG75BW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_KA.OzbB2D1JQ4

If your looking to do 1440p 200fps or 4k 200fps you'll need at least a GTX 1070 I'd imagine and a 7600k or better(7700k,8600k,8700k)

If you are ok with like 1080p 150+ fps I believe this would get the job done.

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-580-130/dp/B075LVK78B/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1518219309&sr=1-3&keywords=gtx+1060

I found two pc's which peaked my interest.

The first one has the rtx 2070 and i7-8700

The second one has the 2080ti and i7-9700

Now the first one looks like really good value to me, but is the second one also of great value?

And furthermore, I have to import this from the states to The Netherlands, will I have trouble with the power supply? like will it even fit in the wall, so to speak

Graphic card is the number 1 priority for gaming PC

Nvidia G Sync monitor with a Geforce 2060 or Geforce 1660 is recommended

Mainboard from ASUS or MSI or Gigabyte

NVMe SSD is the fastest drive to load games fast

At least 16GB of RAM by Curcial or Kingston

a Noctua CPU cooler provides the best results

You can build a computer here with pcpartpicker

Or get a Amazon choice 1000$ gaming desktop if you want to not to worry about building it yourself

for $73 more you can get this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07G77QHV8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 which is arguably much more powerful than this pc.

Is this a joke? With this you’ll be lucky to run most games at 30fps on 1080p. This ones a bit out of budget but could probably be the best performance you could get at this price for a prebuilt

Getting a laptop for gaming is legit pointless unless you can not fit a system in your house:this is $200 more but its recommended

If you can get a desktop then what most people recommend is this + acer monitor

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8100A-i7-8700-GeForce/dp/B0757FV6Y4/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1540085527&sr=8-9&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gaming+pc&dpPl=1&dpID=51n3tUIpoSL&ref=plSrch

Got this sucker on sale. Would’ve splurged a bit more but got one for my wife too so we can play together.

Here's one. USA, however, I am not sure if such builds are available where you are at

Was considering this until i saw the same Archangel Gaming Desktop on amazon for roughly the same price. Then realized that the shipping wouldn't arrive until nov 29. Is there something I'm missing?

I like this pre built one here, even though pre built do suck and it has a bad motherboard a space, I like it for now, since I am only 13 and I still have much to learn about pc, also I am poor so my budget is low. Also it is liquid cooled so that's nice
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_dA9UCbTVQW644