(Part 2) Best computer memories according to redditors
We found 10,428 Reddit comments discussing the best computer memories. We ranked the 1,820 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the products ranked 21-40. You can also go back to the previous section.
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Other Stuff
Headphones
HyperX Cloud 2 - $70
Steelseries Arctis 7 - $100
Steelseries Arctis Pro with DAC - $200
Astro A50 - $200
Corsair Void Pro Wireless - $60
HyperX Cloud Stinger - $40
HyperX Cloud Pro - $50
HyperX Cloud Flight - $90
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Keyboards
Corsair K68 - $80
Corsair K75 Mk.2 - $150
Corsair K95 - $110
Razer Huntsman - $100
HyperX Alloy Core - $30
HyperX Alloy FPS - $80
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Mice
Steelseries Rival 600 - $50
Logitech G602 - $25
Razer Naga Trinity - $55
Logitech G502 - $35
Razer DeathAdder Elite - $35
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Monitors
Dell D2719HGF (27", 1080p, 144Hz, Freesync) on sale for $150
Acer ED323QUR (31.5", 1440p, 144Hz, Curved, Freesync) - $270
Acer KG241Q (23.6", 1080p, 144Hz, Freesync) - $188
Acer Nitro VG271 (27", 1080p, 144Hz, Freesync) - $210
Alienware AW3418DW (34", 3440x1440p, Ultrawide, 120Hz Overclocked, G-Sync) - $720
Samsung LC32JG50QQNZA (32", 1440p, 144Hz) - $300
Acer EI491CR (49", 3840x1080p Ultra.. ultrawide?, 144Hz, Freesync) - $700
Acer KB272HL (27", 1080p, up to 75Hz, Freesync) - $115
Dell S3219D (32", 1440p, Freesync) - $220
ViewSonic XG2702 (27", 1080p, 144Hz, Freesync) - $180
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Internal Components
Ryzen 7 2700X - $200
Ryzen Threadripper 2920X- $250Sold OutMSI Armor RX 590 - $180
Sapphire RX 570 4GB - $120
Ballistix Elite 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4 3600 RAM - $105
Corsair H115i RGB Platinum - $105
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Other
Vive Pro - Up to $200 off
Samsung Galaxy S10 - $600, S10+ is 700
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Some laptops and desktops on sale too, along with power supplies, routers, wifi extenders, and cases.
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NOTE: The computer deals are located in two different places. PC Gaming section and PC Component section.
I've hit character limit, if I find more I'll add it underneath this
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edit: Thank you to the kind redditor who gave me my first gold!
edit2: A silver too?! Thanks!
$130 - Sennheiser HD 599 SE Special Edition, Black
$130 - Sennheiser HD 4.50 Special Edition, Bluetooth Wireless Headphone with Active Noise Cancellation, Black
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$541 - HKC 34'' (3440x1440p) 21:9 Ultrawide 100hz Curved Freesync VA Panel 8ms GTG Rebranded Viotek GN34C, I think it's a Samsung CF791 Panel
$870 - Samsung LC34J791WTNXZA 34" 3440x1440 100Hz QLED 21:9 VA Freesync Thunderbolt 3
$115 - ViewSonic VX2257-MHD 22 Inch 75Hz 2ms 1080p TN
$650 - Samsung 32" QLED 1440p 144Hz HDR 600 WQHD Curved Gaming Monitor Freesync 2 VA
$315 - LG 27GL650F-B 27" 144hz IPS HDR 10 Freesync
$165 - AOPEN 24HC1QR Pbidpx 23.6" 1080p 144hz 1800R Curved FreeSync 4ms VA
$320 - AOPEN 32HC1QUR Pbidpx 31.5" (2560x1440) 144Hz 1800R Curved VA 4ms Freesync Ships within 1-3 months
$260 - ViewSonic VX3276-2K-MHD 32 Inch 1440p IPS Frameless
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$270 - AMD Ryzen 7 2700X
$765 - AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X
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$200 - Toshiba X300 8TB Hard Drive 7200 RPM 128MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5 Inch
$120 - Toshiba NAS N300 4TB NAS 3.5-Inch Internal Hard Drive- SATA 6 Gb/s 7200 RPM 128MB
$315 - Toshiba NAS N300 10TB NAS 3.5-Inch Internal Hard Drive- SATA 6 Gb/s 7200 RPM 256MB
$80 - Seagate FireCuda 2TB SSHD 2.5 Inch SATA
$57/96/186 - XPG GAMMIX 256/512GB/1TB S11 Pro 3D NAND PCIe NVMe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 SSD
$106 - Crucial P1 1TB 3D NAND NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD
$107 - Crucial BX500 960GB 3D NAND SATA 2.5-Inch Internal SSD
$242 - Crucial MX500 2TB 3D NAND SATA 2.5 Inch SSD
$104 - Toshiba Canvio Advance 4TB Portable External Hard Drive USB 3.0, White
$120 - WD Elements 6TB USB 3.0 External HDD Color Black WDBWLG0060HBK-NESN
$95 - Samsung 860 EVO 500GB 2.5" SATA III SSD
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$81 - Ballistix Sport LT 16GB Kit (2x8GB) DDR4 3000 MT/s (PC4-24000) CL15 SR Gray
$137 - Ballistix Elite 16GB Kit (8GBx2) DDR4 3600 MT/s (PC4-28800) CL16 SR Ships within 1-2 months
$73 - Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4x4GB) DDR4 3000 CL16 Black Non-prime, ships within 1-3 months
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Other Components
$110 - DEEPCOOL Castle 240 RGB Liquid CPU Cooler Non-prime
$170 - Corsair H115i 280mm RGB Platinum AIO Liquid CPU Cooler
$35 - Deepcool RF120 3-Pack 120mm RGB PWM Fans with Fan Hub and Extension Non-prime
$805 - ZOTAC Gaming GeForce RTX 2080 Twin Fan 8GB
$198 - Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO ATX Motherboard
$120 - Corsair RM750x 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular ATX PSU CP-9020179-NA
$170 - Corsair HX850i High Performance 80+ Platinum Fully Modular ATX PSU
$60 - Corsair Fan Controller Commander Pro CL-9011110-WW
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$33 - Logitech G602 Wireless Gaming Mouse
$40 - Logitech G403 Prodigy Wired Gaming Mouse
$50 - Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum RGB Tunable Gaming Mouse
$50 - Razer DeathAdder Elite: True 16,000 5G Optical Sensor
$64 - SteelSeries Rival 600 Gaming Mouse, 12,000 CPI TrueMove3+ Dual Optical Sensor
$55 - Logitech MX Master 2S Wireless Mouse, Graphite Ships within 1-2 months
$22 - NETGEAR 8-Port Gigabit Ethernet Unmanaged Switch
$25 - HyperX Double Shot Black & White Pudding PBT Keycaps - 104 Mechanical Keycap Set for Cherry MX
$30 - Corsair mm350 Anti-Fray Cloth Gaming Mouse Pad Extended XL
$10.50 - SteelSeries QcK Gaming Surface - Medium Cloth
$23 - SteelSeries QcK Gaming Surface - Medium Hard
$135 - Razer Huntsman: Opto-Mechanical Switch
$55 - Logitech C920 Webcam HD Pro (960-000764)
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$10.91 - AmazonBasics AAA High-Capacity Rechargeable Batteries (8-Pack) Pre-charged 850mAh
$12.48 - AmazonBasics AAA Rechargeable Batteries (12-Pack) 800mAh
$18.89 - AmazonBasics AA High-Capacity Rechargeable Batteries (8-Pack) Pre-charged 2400mAh
$1.49 - Oreos and other snacks :)
The tl;dr - A good, but not cutting edge Very Tiny and Quiet Gaming PC that's the size of a tall Mac Mini, but packs a 6GB GTX 1060 instead of integrated graphics. The kind of PC you can put out in the living room as a gaming HTPC or next to the Xbox or PS4, etc. Very easy to expand memory and storage. GTX 1060 has 2x DP 1.3 and 2X HDMI 2.0 ports.
Price last hit this low 4 months ago, when it was sold by Newegg. This sale is from Zotac's Store directly, which means if you are outside of California, there should be no sales tax. (I've ordered one direct and there wasn't)
While this is the i3 dual core/HT model, its clock speed is faster (3.2Ghz) than the i5 quad core models (2.2-2.8 & 2.7-3.3Ghz) that Zotac sells and are pricier. For gaming, the difference between CPUs isn't usually much - there's a great write up and extensive benchamrking on cores vs clocks for gaming at https://us.hardware.info/reviews/8463/how-many-cpu-cores-do-you-need-for-gaming (tl;dr -dual core+HT is usually very close to quad core at same clock speed, with most differences under 12%.)
Some pics of a Magnus EN1060 next to a Mac Mini and Intel NUC for size comparsion:
https://i.imgur.com/j638RTp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/M7yMqEF.jpg
Details & Notes:
Given current sales, you could config this with 16GB RAM (+$61) and 500GB HP M.2 SSD (+$75) for under $700 (OS not included)
I have a total of 6 of these, which are used for multiplayer game testing and dev work, so feel free to ask quesitons.
Their Ryzen Test bench is running with extremely poor timings (16-17-17-36-1T) compared to the 7900X (14-16-16-36-2T). They're also using the C6H which has memory training issues even with the newer BIOS updates.
They're also using a kit (Probably 2 of this this one based on the timings) which is known to have poor compatibility with Ryzen. [I switched links a few times]
I could go on, but this review shows that they have very little knowledge of how Ryzen interracts with high speed memory, or what memory is better performing on Ryzen. They should be using 3200MHz B-die (e.g. G.Skill's 3200C14 TridentZs) on Ryzen as a baseline, as that is what most people (Including myself) suggest right now.
Memory prices have been all over the place as of late, not sure what's going on with that.
I just picked up this kit myself. Managed to get it for $59.99, and I check now, It's $70.66 for the same kit.
As configured by you (i7, 3TB HD, 4GB video card), the cost comes to $3099.00. I added in 16GB of memory over the stock 8 since that's pretty much standard for most builds, anymore.
5k Dell Monitor: $1,439.99
Retail i7-4790: $307.00
Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 Motherboard: $102.95
Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB Kit: $66.99
Corsair Carbide SPEC-01 Mid Tower Case: $48.99
Silverstone Tek 500W 80+ Gold PSU: $79.99
EVGA GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card: $229.99
CM Storm Devastator KB/Mouse Combo: $29.99
Total Cost: $2305.89
Video card was a bit of a toughie since the iMac uses a notebook GPU, so I went with something a bit faster, but comparable. This is a complete system with comparable to better specs.
Given the price difference, may as well go with a 980Ti for that extra graphics oomph or tack on some water cooling.
Edit: Woops! Forgot storage and OS!
WD Blue 3TB HD: $98.70
Samsung 850 EVO 120GB (configured as cache drive): $66.99
Windows 10 Home: $119.00
Revised Total: $2590.58. Still cheaper and could still sub out the 960 for a 980Ti and be under cost.
Is it the same as this - Amazon Link
CL 16; Timing 16-18-18;
unless I'm mistaken,this is (highly-binned) E-die memory.This matches AMD's "Recommended Price/Performance Configuration" for Ryzen 3000, and given that b-die 3200 CL14 is getting harder to find, is this it?
Also, don't forget about ordering in app and saving $10 (or more).
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This is the by far the lowest price recorded for this item on Amazon and PCPartPicker. I'm not sure how to get the pricing history bot/script to run here though.
More details found at Crucial and Newegg.
CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 7th Gen - 4.65k
GPU: Zotac GTX 1050 Ti 4GB - 11.7k Buy Zotac only because you get 5years warranty by registering online for free.
MOTHERBOARD : Gigabyte H110 BIOS Updated - 4.46k
RAM: Crucial 8GB 2133MHz DDR4 - 4.1k
HDD: WD 1TB Blue - 3.6k
SMPS: Antec BP450 450W - 1.89k
CABINET: 2.3k (Circle CC 819)
TOTAL: 32.7K
If your budget is strictly 30K, or if you are using a 720p monitor instead of 1080p, then go for Zotac GTX 1050 mini 2GB - 9.3k
NEW TOTAL: 30.3K
I think that this is DEFINITELY the best build under 30K.
Just wanted to add as a FYI - This is effectively the same speed as 3200 CL16 and 3000 CL15 which have been seen at lower prices. Higher bandwidth won't result in much real world differences if price is a major concern here.
See: https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/5d009u/i_made_a_simple_table_to_help_you_pick_out_what/
EDIT: I recently got the corsair 3200 CL16, which is same effective latency as mentioned above for ~$12 less. See amazon link: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B072LX99L9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_yI3xDbB3Y3164
Why is the price so high? You can buy it new from here for less and that's brand new off Amazon.
I picked these up. Is the $40 difference worth or should I cancel that order and pick these up?
links for the lazy
Amazon 164.99
Newegg 149.99 ON SALE
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/dxmrxn/usanch_gaming_desktop_ryzen_5_6core_cpu_rtx_2060/
Sold a much better PC, for the same price.
2600 used has been going for around 100, 2700x sits near 120.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/dx1c3j/usawa_h_ryzen_5_2600_corsair_ll120_4tb_wd_hdd/
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/dwz9cv/usapa_h_ryzen_5_2600_and_bnib_wraith_prism_cooler/
2060 used is about 300, while 1660 I'd say around 150 possibly.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/dxgrai/usaohh_cryorig_c7g_noctua_l9i_chromax_version_msi/
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/dxo1c4/usavah_multiple_gpus_and_one_new_aorus_b450_pro/
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/dxdxnf/usanj_h_new_corsair_h150i_evga_rtx2060_xc_ultra/
32gigs of RAM is $150-170 new, so about $120 used, while 8 gigs is only like $40.
This is a deal I got from someone, sold me 2x16 RAM for 100 here - https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/dmjtla/usadeh_corsair_lpx_32gb_dram_3000mhz_c15_2x_16gb/
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-2x16GB-3200MHz-Memory-CMK32GX4M2B3200C16/dp/B016ORTNI2/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=2x16&qid=1574018455&sr=8-1
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CMW32GX4M2C3200C16-Vengeance-PC4-25600-Desktop/dp/B07GTG2T7L/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=2x16&qid=1574018455&sr=8-3
https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Ripjaws-PC4-25600-Platform-F4-3200C16D-32GVK/dp/B0171GQR0C/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=2x16&qid=1574018455&sr=8-2
Not tryna like shit on you, but, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g3qmk6, is your build. Basically charging retail price w/o tax, but there's no guarantee of warranty, no boxes if the person ever wanted to sell these items back, because, it's already cancer trying to ship a whole pc, let alone a cpu with no box, that has fragile pins.
Here's the thing, PC is new, so I'll give you that, and the 1st post is obviously a very good price, and I'm comparing used, I think you're better off trying to part out.
How will you know if something is AMD rated vs Intel rated? Will it always mention it?
I ask because I have Ryzen 2700x with Corsair LPX (16gbx2) 3200Mhz RAM but I can't seem to get it to run at the 3200 Mhz. It is this set in particular in case it matters. It doesn't seem to mention AMD or Intel.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016ORTNI2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It's cheaper on Amazon though
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2666MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0123ZC44Y
Ballistix Elite 16GB Kit (8GBx2) DDR4 3600 $137 Ryzen Ready
Following is my configuration built 2 years back.
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: Asus Z97-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory: Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Power Supply: Cooler Master VSM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer SGC-1000-KWN1
Dell S2240L 21.5 inch LED Backlit LCD Monitor x 2(Got these two for a steal at the Flipkart Big Billion Day Sale)
Cooler Master Keybord & Mouse Devastator Combo SGB-3010-KKMF1-US
Right now playing SOMA.
16 GB vs 8 GB. $60 is hardly back breaking for a professional programmer.
And using more RAM doesn't increase power usage that much.
Wow. I know they make their money on addons, but +320$ for two sticks of 8gig DDR4-2133 DIMM! You can get this pair on amazon for 60$
CPU
Mother Board
GPU
8GB of RAM
1TB HDD for way more storage space then a console. You could drop the storage space to match a console and save a bit of money, but we won't do that.
PSU Cheaper/lower wattage for this build is possible, but it's better not to skimp
Disk drives are dying out and everything is going digital. Even consoles are showing massive growth in direct game purchases and downloads from PSN/XBL. But here it is if you want one.
Here's a few cases 1 2 3 4. Pick your case based on style, USB ports, whatever. All of those are 30 dollars or less and are mATX, meaning smaller form factor.
So now peripherals. Need a monitor? No you don't, plug it in to your TV. HDMI just like a console and consoles don't come with displays. You might have a monitor already.
Controller/input devices? PCs can use the old controllers you have laying around. Here's a keyboard and mouse recommendation anyway if you want one or don't already own them since most people own a computer for stuff outside gaming. That costs around half the price of an OEM console controller and KB+M is a more accurate input method. Controllers are a comfort thing and are best suited for driving games, but point and click with a high DPI sensor is much more intuitive and accurate than a controller with bad input filtering and clunky auto aim. Microsoft tried cross platform and keyboard and mouse destroyed gamepad/controller players. The only real cross platform right now is Rocket League because controllers are the better input method for driving so it's equal footing. But if you're playing Rocket League on PC, you load in faster. You'll be sitting on an empty field while you wait for other players to connect before the countdown and stuff starts, kinda neat. Also, that one I recommended has a button to change DPI/sensitivity on the fly, no need to bother with settings menus. Seamlessly go from sniping to roaming to driving. The keyboard is back lit and has a few color options.
Operating system? GNU/Linux is free and is getting more and more gaming support every day. It's not as hard as people make it out to be. Get a basic/user friendly distro like Ubuntu and all you really have to do is install. If you're a masochist, a developer, or a masochistic developer get a tougher distro like Gentoo. Funny thing as well, games with Linux support run better on Linux since it's such a great operating system on the software level. SteamOS is also free. Want Windows? Download the OS and put it on a disk or flash drive, install it on the new computer and enter the product key. Where do you get a product key? Don't buy it from a big box retail store for 100 bucks or likely more, you're getting gypped. You can buy 100% legit product keys online. r/microsoftsoftwareswap sells them for 20-25$ and the keys are straight from Microsoft
Also, all of those listings are from Amazon and are Amazon Prime eligible (for the other guy that replied to you that wants to complain about rebates/shipping/living next to a MicroCenter). You can find a lot of those parts cheaper and/or with free shipping. I recommend NewEgg. So you can do even better than the price I'm about to give you (which also means you can get better hardware for better performance):
Here's the itemized list with the prices: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QBVRNG
$448.51 total for a PC that is massively better than current gen consoles. Drop the unnecessary DVD drive and the keyboard+mouse combo and the PC itself comes in at $402.93.
So... brand new parts from a large online retailer with a great support system. You can get even better deals on the parts if you checked other great online retailers like NewEgg. Ten years ago consoles absolutely made sense, but now leaps in hardware design have made better hardware cheaper and the tables have turned.
Does that "come close without cheating"?
Here's a few more kickers now that we have the hard price set:
AMD and Nvidia are about to launch a new line of GPUs, meaning current prices will drop (better performance at lower cost on that build I just gave you) and AMD is specifically focusing on lower/mid range market with higher performance and efficiency. It's going to be great for mainstream gaming rigs.
PC gaming is usually cheaper over time because Intel/Nvida/AMD don't charge development fees (they can't), neither can EVGA/ASUS or whoever makes the parts, neither can Microsoft. Steam takes a cut, but so do stores like GameStop. Stuff like that is why Steam can have massive sales consoles can only dream of and the developers can still profit from a sale. The only reason PC games are 60 dollars like their console equivalents is because it's the standard and they can "get away with it" (especially if you're Microsoft trying to expand Windows 10 and not alienate XBox), but they can make the same or more per sale at a lower cost.
PCs also have the largest game library of any platform and the massive free to play library that comes with it as well. And it's really free, not 'pay 50 a year for a subscription and get to play a game for a month' free
PC is, in theory, forever backwards compatible. Want to play CoD4? Don't shell out the money for Infinite Warfare, just install CoD4 and play on the servers PC still hosts. Games that came out upwards of 10 years ago can still be installed and run with no issue.
You don't have to double spend. No buying a console and a computer for work/school. Put your 300 dollar home computer and 400 dollar console prices together and you made a huge leap in budget to built a killer PC. You also get a much more versatile platform capable of running much more stuff and you get so much more control over your experience.
I'd definitely opt for the T440s over the T440p. The T440p is quite a fat system, at 1.3" thick. I mean maybe you're into thick stuff, but I find the T440s' 0.80" to be much more attractive. It's also half a pound lighter (or about the same weight when you config it with the 6-cell rear battery). Here's how I'd config one:
Price: $1,164.60 when you sign in via the Barnes & Noble gold discount site (which you can create for free here: www.lenovo.com/barnesnoblegold)
The only downside is the video performance would not be as good as the T440p with a discrete graphics card inside. The HD4400 will run Skyrim, but not very well. Here's a list of games and how they perform with the HD4400 and here's the GT730M for comparison. That's the trade-off really. There do exist systems that could game, somewhat portably, but I just don't think the GT 730m in the T440p is worth having to deal with such a heftier system. I think the durability, portability, and redongculous 14 and a half hour battery life (as tested by Laptop Magazine) outweigh some casual gaming. As far as audio quality goes, most laptops have the same internal sound cards. Fortunately there's some decent portable USB DACs on the market (like the Fiio E07K), if you're looking to upgrade your sound performance.
Also keep in mind that the Lenovo Y40 is just around the corner (probably May?) if you're looking for something with some more gaming prowess that'll be in your sweetspot of portability. It won't have quite the durability of a ThinkPad, nor battery life, but its keyboard isn't far off from the ThinkPad's, and its gaming performance would be far more significant than anything a ThinkPad could offer.
Go buy the laptop. If you are a regular internet user, it will be something that will be harder to potentially sell.
I'm buying this guy as a birthday present to myself next week and upgrading the RAM and adding a 120GB mSATA. After about ~$850 it'll be a quick little machine with a 1080p screen.
Motherboards: MSI Enthusiastic Gaming Intel Z270 DDR4 VR Ready HDMI USB 3 ATX Motherboard x2
Ram: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3000MHz C15 Desktop Memory Kit - White x2
Processors: Intel 7th Gen Intel Core Desktop Processor i7-7700K x2
3 of the Monitors (1 is a Benq): ViewSonic VX2452MH 24" 1080p Gaming Monitor HDMI, DVI, VGA
GPUs: GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1060 DirectX 12 GV-N1060WF2OC-6GD 6GB 192-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 ATX Video Card x2
Coolers: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2) x2
Speakers: Logitech Z313 Speaker System x2
Cases: Corsair Carbide Series Air 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case - Black (and 1 white)
Keyboards: SteelSeries Apex 300 Gaming Keyboard, White LED Backlit and CORSAIR K55 RGB Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: Logitech G600 MMO Gaming Mouse (and don't ask what my cheap ass mouse is, but I love it)
Cat: Pain In The Ass Model
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Hey there,
hope I can help you a bit in the following. The selection of devices you have in mind is already very good, I'd say, all those machines are great in their own right. So I imagine that it is hard to choose between them... Since you are a developer, and since you didn't say anything about GPU-heavy tasks like gaming, video editing etc. being a thing, I think we can do without a comparison of GPU power here, but I can still do that later on in case you want me to, for video editing, gaming etc. purposes.
I think as a very first step, it makes sense to take a look at the Geekbench scores of the respective devices, so that you can get an idea about the performance difference between them. I'll also include the current MacBook Pros 15" 2019 in the comparison. Here we go (higher is better):
MacBook Pro 13" 2018, 2.7 GHz Intel Core i7-8559U Quad Core:
5141 Points (Single-Core Score)
17783 Points (Multi-Core Score)
source: https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/433
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MacBook Pro 15" 2019, 2.6 GHz Intel Core i7-9750H Hexa Core:
5260 Points (Single-Core Score)
23068 Points (Multi-Core Score)
source: https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/445
MacBook Pro 15" 2019, 2.3 GHz Intel Core i9-9880H Octa Core:
5435 Points (Single-Core Score)
28396 Points (Multi-Core Score)
source: https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/446
MacBook Pro 15" 2019, 2.4 GHz Intel Core i9-9980HK Octa Core:
5589 Points (Single-Core Score)
29854 Points (Multi-Core Score)
source: https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/453
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iMac 27" 2019, 3.7 GHz Intel Core i5-9600K Hexa Core:
5796 Points (Single-Core Score)
22990 Points (Multi-Core Score)
source: https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/439
iMac 27" 2019, 3.6 GHz Intel Core i9-9900K Octa Core:
6293 Points (Single-Core Score)
33961 Points (Multi-Core Score)
source: https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/438
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iMac Pro 27" 2017, 3.2 GHz Intel Xeon W-2140B Octa Core:
5072 Points (Single-Core Score)
31359 Points (Multi-Core Score)
source: https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/426
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As you can infer from the scores above, there are significant performance differences between the individual devices. The MBPs 15" have more physical cores than the 13" models - 6-Core i7 or 8-Core i9 in the 15" models vs. 4-Core i7 in the 13" model - and thus have a much higher Multi-Core speed. The Multi-Core Score is especially relevant, as most modern applications are designed to make use of multiple cores all at once. Thus, a higher Multi-Core Score directly translates into better general performance for the most part. The Hexa-Core i7 in the MBP 15" 2019 base model is a clear step up from the Quad Core i7 of the 13" model. The i9 Octa Core chips in turn are both a step up from Hexa Core i7 even, though between the two i9 chips of the MBP 15" 2019 there isn't much difference, so if you can get a model with 2.3 GHz i9 cheaper, I would rather get that.
The iMac 27" 2019 with i9 Octa Core chip is a step up from the i5 Hexa Core for the same reason, 8-Core i9 vs. 6-Core i5, thus far superior Multi-Core performance. The iMac 27" 2019 with i9 chip even outpaces the iMac Pro 27" 2017 with Octa Core by a slight margin, this is important to remember due to the fact that the regular iMac 27" 2019 with i9 chip can be bought for less money than the base model iMac Pro.
All in all, I think it's clear that the i9 chips are the top notch performers by far, no other CPU in the lineup can touch the performance of the i9 chips even remotely. The i9 in the iMac 27" 2019 being the best performer of them all.
Now, the matter of RAM: If you opt for a MacBook Pro, I would opt for 32 GB RAM (15" models) or 16 GB RAM (13" models) if you want to future-proof them, maxing out the RAM absolutely doesn't hurt in any shape or form, it enhances the longevity of the devices in question, and ensures that you will not experience slowdowns related to a lack of RAM. The RAM in the current MBPs 13" and 15" is soldered in, sadly, so you can't replace or extend it later on. Your decision at the time of purchase is the final one for the lifetime of the device, so I'd say better safe than sorry in this case, as there is no way to fix a lack of RAM later on with these machines.
A definite advantage of the iMac 27" 2019 is that its RAM is user-serviceable and that you can therefore easily upgrade it yourself. The iMac 27" 2019 supports up to 128 GB RAM (4 x 32 GB RAM modules). It has 4 RAM slots, meaning 4 RAM modules in total will fit in. A higher amount than 128 GB RAM won't work due to a limitation in the logic board.
The iMac 27" 2019 needs RAM that matches the following specification:
PC4-21300 DDR4 2666 MHz, 260-pin
Here are some examples of RAM modules that work flawlessly in the iMac 27" 2019:
Take the Crucial RAM sticks I linked to, for example: 16 GB RAM = $64... 4 x $64 = $256. Same RAM upgrade from Apple: $1000. And yes, as long as you remain within the specification above, you get the exact same RAM technically that you would also get from Apple, no technical difference whatsoever. You'll get around $750(!!!) back.
The RAM upgrade is extremely easy to do, take a look:
The ability to upgrade the RAM yourself in the iMac 27" 2019 is a huge plus, as you've just seen. The iMac Pro 27" 2017 also has user-serviceable RAM. Sounds great? Well, you were rejoicing too early... The RAM in the iMac Pro isn't soldered in, so the theoretical option to extend it yourself exists. But it's mostly theoretical, as you have no easy way to physically access the RAM in the iMac Pro. Extending the RAM yourself in an iMac Pro requires a partial disassembly of the device, including unglueing the screen from the device body and taking the logic board out. The procedure is a mess, take a look:
Furthermore, the ECC-RAM that the iMac Pro needs is fairly expensive compared to the RAM the iMac 27" 2019 needs, even if you buy third party RAM.
As for ports: The iMacs come with more classical ports, among them USB-A, SD-Card reader, and Ethernet. They have a clear advantage here if you need any of the aforementioned ports regularly, because if you have equipment that uses those ports and own a MacBook Pro which only has USB-C, you won't get around using a dongle regularly. The iMacs have a better mixture of legacy ports and future-proof USB-C ports, while the MacBook Pros went all in with USB-C.
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Which machine would I buy if I were in your shoes? I think I'd buy the iMac 27" 2019 with i9 chip, it's the most powerful machine out of the bunch in terms of processing power, it has the same screen as the iMac Pro, the same ports as the iMac Pro (well, it has two USB-C ports less, but still...), and most importantly, you can upgrade the RAM easily in this machine and save tons of money that way. Make sure you configure in an SSD at the time of purchase, though, a Fusion Drive just doesn't do this machine justice. Add the 512 GB SSD to it at the bare minimum. The iMac Pro is IMHO not worth it compared to the iMac 27" 2019 with i9 chip, as it's a bit slower, has far less accessible (and more expensive) RAM, and is on top of that more expensive by itself already.
In case you opt for a MacBook Pro, I'd opt for an i9 model here as well if I were in your shoes, as the i9 chips are much more powerful than the others. Less upgradable machines and worse port selection compared to the iMacs (be prepared for dongle life...), you also lose the gorgeous 27" 5K display... You gain mobile, though. If the "mobile" factor isn't of extremely high importance to you, I'd head straight for an iMac, you get far more bang for your buck in this case.
If you want as efficient and quiet as possible, you should get a skylake processor. It uses less energy and thus produces less heat than skylake. A i5-6600 would be a good fit, together with a H170 board like this.
A better SSD and fitting ram:
pc-kombo shared list
Type|Item|Price
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Memory | Crucial CT8G4DFD8213 (8 GB) | EUR 29,99 @ Amazon.de
SSD | SanDisk Ultra II 480 (512 GB) | EUR 125,00 @ Amazon.de
| Generated by pc-kombo 22.03.2016 |
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2666MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0123ZC44Y/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1500272826&sr=8-7&keywords=corsair+ddr4+16gb
Just set the timings to 14-14-14-30-44, tRFC 340/254/156 at 1.25v, and bam. You got the good shit. Hilariously, with these timings, my RAM performance trades blows with most standard 3200mhz sticks.
But, as you said. Money.
I'm building a new high end pc from the ground up. Should I be taking advantage of any of these sales? I feel like the mouse and power supply are automatic purchases but I'm a newbie so I wanted to see if I can get any help here first. Sorry if this is filling up the discussion post.
SSD
I read that the crucial's aren't good because once you reach 75% capacity it dramatically slows your pc down? Also, don't know if external SSDs are recommended but should I bite on that SanDisk?
Samsung 1TB 860 EVO
Crucial P1 1TB m.2 SSD
SanDisk 1TB Portable External SSD
Power Supply
Corsair RM850x, 850 Watt Gold Certified Fully Modular Power Supply
Cooler
I don't even know if I will need a coouler, and if I want to go liquid cooling route, and I don't care about RGB, but for a high end pc I'm assuming I should buy?
Corsair H115i RGB Platinum AIO Liquid CPU Cooler
Mouse
This seems like the best deal on a mouse no?
Logitech® MX Master 2S Wireless Mouse
RAM
Was actually looking for 32GB RAM, should I pass since if I go AMD mobo route, having to use more than 2 will cause a slowdown right?
Ballistix Elite 16GB Kit (8GBx2) DDR4 3600 MT/s
It's basically a question of how much you enjoy the process of learning a new system. Go FreeNAS if you have the time or simply enjoy the process, or go Synology if you'd rather pay a premium to set and forget.
If you do go Synology, you want the DS1515+ (better CPU compared to the straight 1515), and seriously considering spending the extra $150 on the DS1815+ for the extra bays (especially since a read/write SSD cache takes two bays).
You can actually max those units to 16GB memory, or just drop $20 to put it up to 6GB: https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Technology-1600MHz-PC3-12800-KVR16LS11/dp/B00CQ35GYE/
So lets compare the new Mac mini MGEM2LL/A that just got announced for the price of $499 with the Gigabyte BRIX Pro GB-BXi5-4570R that's more than half a year old and can be found for $470 and shipped within a few days.
CPU BRIX Wins
1.4Ghz (up to 2.7) dual-core (with hyperthreading) i5 with 3MB cache vs 2.7GHz (up to 3.2) quad-core i5 4MB cache (all Haswell)
GPU BRIX Wins
HD 5000 vs Iris Pro 5200
RAM BRIX Wins
4GB 1600MHz soldered vs free to choose (lets pick the same here +$39)
Storage BRIX Wins
500GB 5400rpm vs free to choose (lets pick the same here +$43.50)
Wireless BRIX Wins
802.11ac + Bluetooth 4.0 vs free to choose (lets pick the same here +$33)
Ports Apple Wins
2 Thunderbolt more, SDXC card slot, IR Receiver, 2 audio ports vs 1 MiniDisplayPort more, Kensington lock
Size BRIX Wins
Mac mini vs NUC and NUC vs BRIX Pro. Note the power brick is external in BRIX Pro.
Warranty Tie for Geeks / Apple Wins for n00bs
1 year limited warranty extended to 3 years with AppleCare +$99 vs 3 years GIGABYTE warranty.
Note how I googled the web for the different parts earlier for BRIX and have to put them inside the BRIX while with Apple you just go to one website and it comes pre-assembled. Also I think AppleCare is better suited for newbies.
Price BRIX Wins
$598 vs $585.5
Availability BRIX Wins
Mac Mini was just announced and still hasn't shipped, BRIX is already shipping worldwide for more than half a year.
OS
BRIX WinsLinux WinsMac Mini includes OS X and can somewhat run Windows and Linux. BRIX doesn't include OS but supports better the best OS out there (notice Intel's dual band wifi + bluetooth card and Iris Pro graphics) while it can run Windows and nowadays Hackintosh is easy to install.
Pair an Intel nuc with 4GB of ram and an ssd for only $194.66. You don't really need to be building at that price range.
Yes, it is. The Acer Aspire E5-571 has an Intel i5-4210U with Intel HD 4400 integrated graphics. They handle Civ V easily enough on lower settings, and there is no reason that it wouldn't be able to handle Civ BE, as it doesn't look too much more graphically advanced than V.
However, integrated graphics run up to 40% better when the RAM is in a dual channel configuration. Since there is a single 4GB stick in the laptop as it comes stock, you should consider getting another 4GB Stick later. That would ensure you're getting the most out of the on-chip graphics.
Crucial 1600mhz ddr3 2x8 kit- $46 : https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-PC3-12800-240-Pin-BLS2KIT8G3D1609DS1S00/dp/B006YG9EEW/ref=sr_1_2?s=prime-day&psr=PD16&ie=UTF8&qid=1468308607&sr=1-2&keywords=Cpu+cooler
Not at all. 4 Phillips screws is all it takes to open it. Then you pinch the two sides of the fan over the RAM and you slide in the new stick.
You can see a quick video from Alienware about it here.
Don't listen to anything saying it comes with 2 2GB sticks. All retail units have a single 4GB stick.
This is the stick I added to my unit: link
These were made to be opened and Alienware encourages upgrades. It will not void your warranty.
Upgrading RAM on a laptop is fairly easy to do. You will need a torx screwdriver set to open up the bottom of your laptop. I use this torx screwdriver set. I am assuming your laptop has 8GB of RAM so you'll want to buy a 8GB module to upgrade to 12GB or a 16GB set to upgrade to 16GB. If you are upgrading to 12GB you will only need to take out one of the two 4GB modules and replace is with the 8GB module. This is a good guide for installing RAM.
Drop in an extra 16GB stick of RAM. It's very likely that the model you purchased is running a single stick of 16GB in single channel mode, adding another stick will make them run in dual channel and improve gaming performance.
If you look at one of the Amazon reviews... someone just bought it a week or two ago and reported B-Die.
https://www.amazon.ca/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2Z3200C16-Vengeance-Memory-PC4-25600/product-reviews/B072LX99L9/ref=dpx_acr_txt?showViewpoints=1
Also the link you provided isn't even the same RAM. That one is B3200, I was linking the Z3200. Corsair uses this code to denote Ryzen specific RAM.
I posted a few times on here and wanted to give an update for people who had the B450 Tomahawk. I just returned mine to Best Buy yesterday and bought the B450 Gaming Plus off of Amazon. I took it out, plugged the ATX 24 pin power into it and flashed it with the most recent gaming plus USB once. The red CPU light was still on when it restarted, and I turned it off. Put everything back into my case and booted up and worked with no issues.
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I am installing windows now. My specs:
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 X 8GB) DDR4 3000 (PC4-24000) C16 1.35V Desktop Memory - Black PC Memory CMK16GX4M2D3000C16
WD Blue 1TB PC Hard Drive - 7200 RPM Class, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64 MB Cache, 3.5" - WD10EZEX
Thermaltake Smart 700W 80+ White Certified PSU, Continuous Power with 120mm Ultra Quiet Fan, ATX 12V V2.3/EPS 12V Active PFC Power Supply PS-SPD-0700NPCWUS-W
Rosewill ATX Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case with Side Window, Gaming Case with LED for Desktop/ PC including 3 x 120mm Fans for Outstanding Ventilation, 2 X USB 3.0 Ports (BRADLEY M)
Ryzen 5 3600
AMD GeForce GTX1050Ti GPU
B450 Gaming Plus.
https://www.amazon.com/Ballistix-PC4-28800-288-Pin-Gaming-Memory/dp/B07NPKTRS1
I think there are lower rated, cheaper e-die kits branded as Ballistix Sport LT
https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-8gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164106
https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/bqnq0m/micron_edie_3733mhz_cas16_14v/
I've ordered all the parts to my computer and assembled them together. However, the LED light that indicates there is an error in my RAM is still blinking. My motherboard is the following:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K2MAU5Q/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
At first, I ordered this RAM:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058J1Q7O/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
After receiving the motherboard manual, I looked at the list of compatible ram and ordered: http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Desktop-Memory-CML8GX3M2A1600C9/dp/B00569K7LM/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1416861921&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=corsair+vengeance+cml8gx3m2a1600c9+version+7.12
I am still receiving the LED light that indicates my RAM is not compatible or installed incorrectly. I have noticed that the list in my motherboard says Version 7.12, but the version of the ram I have is 5.20, although the part numbers are identical. Will this effect compatibility?
From your other topic for anyone else interested in this kind of project:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type|Item|Price
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CPU | AMD A6-6400K 3.9GHz Dual-Core Processor | $49.19 @ Amazon
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-F2A68HM-H Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard | $39.99 @ Amazon
Memory | Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $27.99 @ Amazon
Case | Rosewill Line-M MicroATX Mini Tower Case | $39.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply | EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply | $29.85 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | ~$186.01
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-13 18:15 EDT-0400 |
That CPU has about 2.2k passmark score, enough for one 1080 stream (about 2k score per client). The 8gb ram is probably overkill, but it's cheap so why not. About 134 watt consumption if you run headless. Have fun :)
It’s that price right now?
Corsair 163301 Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3200 MHz C16 XMP 2.0 High Performance Desktop Memory Kit, Black https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B016ORTNI2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_uYS6Bb76NYF8R
Those specs are sub-par at best, and an absolute scam at worst. 8GB of RAM and 1TB of HDD for a $1700 machine?! There should be at least 16GB and an SSD for the OS at that price point.
In just 5 minutes I threw together an equivalent PC on Amazon for about half the price ($890: mobo, ram, gpu, cpu, hdd, display, mouse + keyboard, case.
Now how about you take a look at a PC with a similar price point? ($1680 : mobo, ram, gpu, cpu, ssd, hdd, same display, same mouse + keyboard, same case)
And dont worry, you got into the correct subreddit :)
Good luck!
120 Hz is quite useful to have in esports titles in which you can get close to the 120 fps mark. But the response time of the panel is still average which is typical in this price range and you might notice a little bit of ghosting which slightly outweighs the benefits of the higher refresh rate display. But I personally haven't found it that noticeable. Even the general Windows UI feels more smoother due to the higher refresh rate, which I like. If you play only AAA titles however, 120 Hz is pointless as you'll reach only close to 60 fps with decent graphics settings.
The build quality is ok. Only the bottom plastic base seems cheap. Rest of the body seems solid enough and doesn't give the impression that it'll break easily. I don't find much keyboard flex and the display hinge is fine too.
I haven't experienced the issue of battery draining while playing games while plugged. I haven't tested the battery life unplugged that much as I'm mostly playing games with it on charger but based on a short battery drain test, it seems just average due to the small 48 Watt hour battery and the idle drain of Ryzen being worse than Intel's. But it seems like you can manage 4-4.5 hours if you aren't gaming. I haven't had gaming laptops before so I'm not sure how much battery life is acceptable.
The issue with 5.8 GB RAM availability has been fixed with a BIOS update that I got right after updating Windows the first time (I think it was an issue with the Vega iGPU reserving VRAM for itself). I added another RAM module immediately which is a must in the long run for the highest fps but not immediately needed to play games just fine. It's quite straightforward and not much of a hassle. If you don't want to open up the laptop yourself, just buy an 8 GB 2400Hz CL17 RAM module from Amazon (I got this one) and take it to the service center. You only need to remove the bottom base to access the RAM slot and it's quite easy to do on your own too.
You'll have a good gaming experience with both the Ryzen and the Intel one with a GTX 1650. Yes, ones with Intel will give you slightly higher fps. But you'll get more than 45 fps in most games all the time at relatively high settings even with the Ryzen which is quite playable. It is quite hard for me to tell the difference between mid-50 fps and 60 fps without having an fps counter displayed so a 5 fps difference between Intel and Ryzen isn't that significant. Above 60 fps, you'll not be able to feel a difference on laptops with a 60 Hz display anyway. The only cause of concern is that in a few highly CPU intensive games, you might get stutters with Ryzen when the CPU starts to bottleneck the GPU. I haven't faced it in the games I played but some people have reported it in AC: Odyssey which could very well be optimization issues with that game in particular. For the 1650, Ryzen is good enough but I wouldn't recommend it when its paired with more powerful cards like the 1660/Ti.
I haven't done detailed fps measurements yet but it is usually between 40 to 60 fps with the average framerate in the 50s in AAA titles at 1080p and moderately high settings. The Witcher 3 on the high preset with textures on Ultra gives me an average of around 54 fps.
When it comes to temps, the CPU usually is at 70-85C while going to 90C in very rare instances. The GPU is always near 70C even when you push it hard. The fans are pretty good but get really loud during peak gaming but you can change profiles to keep them quiet at the expense of higher temps. I didn't face any major throttling, with the Ryzen maintaining its 3.7 GHz boost across all cores fairly well even at 80+ degrees. This could vary based on the ambient temps of your room though. Where I live, it's usually only around 32 degrees at this time of the year.
TL;DR: You can't go wrong with either Ryzen or Intel if you want a laptop with a GTX 1650 and will have an enjoyable gaming experience with both. However, avoid Ryzen if it's paired with a GPU more powerful than this.
Any DDR4 SODIMM module should work. Just note that anything higher than 2400 MHz will be bottlenecked and underclocked to match that speed IIRC. This one seems to be pretty good.
So this would work, right?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-Single-PC4-19200-SODIMM-260-Pin/dp/B01BIWKP58
Thank you for a quick answer.
Unfortunately, $1,100 AUD is not enough for a brand new laptop with a dedicated GPU. $1,100 AUD works out to about $750 USD and with that amount of money you can purchase a laptop in the US with a dedicated GPU.
I recommend you consider perhaps importing a laptop to Australia. The link below leads you to an ASUS - FX505DD 15.6" Gaming Laptop with a Ryzen 5 3550H CPU and a GTX 1050 selling for $582 USD on Amazon's International. That means products from that site can be shipped worldwide. Below the "Add to Cart" / "Buy Now" buttons you can select an international destination.
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-FX505DD-Gaming-Laptop-GeForce/dp/B07V336VJJ/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=gtx+1050+laptop&qid=1572323153&s=electronics&sr=1-5
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Be aware that shipping and possibly import taxes can apply. Click the following links to learn about import fees and Customs, Duties and Taxes.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201910710
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201910420
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$582 USD works out to $852 AUD. With a budget of $1,100 AUD you may be able to afford to pay for the shipping and import fees. On top of that, you could have a laptop with a dedicated GPU that would cost you more than $1,100 AUD if you were to purchase a similar laptop in Australia.
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If you really do not want to deal with the headaches of imports taxes and whatnot, then I recommend the following Lenovo ThinkPad E595 for $799 AUD. It is a budget business laptop which should have okay battery life of 5 to 6 hours (better than the above gaming laptop by maybe 1 to 2 hours) with light usage; meaning not when playing games. It has a Ryzen 5 3500u with a Vega 8 integrated graphics core that is actually pretty good... considering it is integrated. While the GTX 1050 in the above laptop is considered a "weak gaming GPU", it is a lot more powerful the Vega 8 graphics core. The Vega 8 in turn is more powerful than a laptop that has an Intel CPU with the Intel UHD 620 integrated graphics core. The Vega 8 is about the same as a nVidia 940m... when there are 2 sticks of RAM installed. It has a 1080p screen (250 nits brightness, not very bright but enough for indoor usage) and a 256GB SSD (think of it as an extremely fast hard drive). One downside is the keyboard is not backlit.
https://www.onlinecomputer.com.au/119256
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To get the most out of the Vega 8 integrated graphics core, I recommend you buy the following 8GB stick of RAM to install in the ThinkPad E595. Two stick of RAM that are the same size means the RAM will operate at full speed rather than half speed. That can represent anywhere from a 1% to 20% increase in game performance, but that depends on the specific game. Even without the 2nd 8GB RAM stick the Vega 8 should be more than enough to play Terraria. One thing to be aware of is the Vega 8 will claim 2GB of the RAM for itself whether it needs it or not.
https://www.amazon.com.au/Crucial-Single-PC4-19200-260-Pin-CT8G4SFS824A/dp/B01BIWKP58/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=8GB+RAM+DDR4+sodimm&qid=1572325776&sr=8-1
Why not just this? https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01BIWKP58/
Not sure why you're going out of your way to find expensive RAM from a third party seller with no reviews.
Thank you all. I just checked the QVL for mobo and i don't understand why Corsair CMK16GX4M2D3000C16W isn't supported but Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3000C15W is. They look like the same product offering the same specs but the 4M2D is £15 cheaper. What's the difference? I'm also kind of on a budget so how much improvement would the nitro be compared to the msi? would a 4gb version of the nitro at £167 be a better option? or do i have room to skimp elsewhere to make up the additional costs
Similar inquiry to OP I'm building with an MSI B350 and planning to use an R5 1600 aswell. I'm currently looking at these for RAM:
Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EI5Z2T6/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=181K6VHHOCK2D&coliid=I3TKQ40M2MKA7L&psc=1
I would, it's been proven that the B-die usually CL14 or CL15 is the best for Ryzen systems. There are tools out there to find B-die RAM, that or just go for these.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XFT7DF9/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_8?smid=A2Y8CGQ5110ZKT&psc=1
Yup! This guy:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071KP8CGJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I got the single stick of 16gb to add to my existing 16, but you could use any of the available sets on that page.
Is there really a difference between this Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 X 8GB) DDR4 3200 RAM "for AMD" VS this one?
Better Video card
nix the CPU cooler unless you decide to get an i5 2500k and overclock
You can probably get RAM for a few bucks cheaper off amazon, I was looking at some corsair vengeance for 40 bucks flat, but I have always been a G SKILL man myself LINK
Seasonic is a lovely brand I use them all the time. Right now until tomorrow (11/21), you can get an X650 for $100, LINK
you can get by with a cheaper motherboard (I'm not too good at picking out motherboards) but it really depends on what you want. Generally I don't see what the $300 motherboards offer that the $150 ones don't. But I generally go for ones that are $90-$130
Personally, I have been avoiding blu-ray readers since they are very expensive and also require specific software to watch blu-ray movies (so I have been sticking to my PS3)
The deal is currently dead on newegg, but looks like Amazon matched it:
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-PC3-12800-1600mHz-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B/dp/B004QBUL1C/
Anyone who wants my build!
I finally got the parts, I think, idk noob with comps I am
Anywhere's here is a link to all the parts :P
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-PC3-12800-1600mHz-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B/dp/B004QBUL1C/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1418573722&sr=8-2&keywords=8+gigs+ram
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IDG3PRI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0088PUEPK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-Processor-BX80646I54690K/dp/B00KPRWB9G/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1418857923&sr=1-1&keywords=i5+processor
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ESETQNG/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H33SFJU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003YVJJ5Y/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
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Get Corsair but not the one you linked, look for low profile RAM so if you decide to install another heatsink, it will not be limited by needlessly tall heatspreaders on the RAM.
I would personally go with Corsair just for peace of mind. Their customer service is incredibly good and you can find a few posts on this subreddit that support this.
> So just buy the cheaper hdd instead of the ssd from Lenovo as I will be replacing it?
Yes. The 240 GB SSD upgrade for the T440s will cost you $340 if you do it through Lenovo. A Samsung 840 Evo with the same amount of storage is currenlty $140.
> How hard is it to install the ssd?
It's easy. Lenovo provides an extensive hardware maintenance manual. On page 61 and further you will find instructions on how to remove the HDD and the SSD cache (which is a m.2 mSata card). Before you're going to do that, you will have to create an installation media on a USB stick to reinstall Windows (here is another tutorial). The Windows key is probably embedded in the BIOS and you won't have to enter it during install. The only tricky part is removing the base cover. You can check this thread for help.
> What about the ram module, and is there any in particular you recommend?
Any 204 pin SO-DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800 module with a clock rate of 1600 MHz and a voltage of 1.35V will do it, e.g. this Crucial 4GB Single DDR3 module.
> Can I get the standard battery for now and perhaps get the extended one later?
Yes. You can buy the bigger battery afterwards. A cool feature of the T440s is that it has two batteries. An internal one and an external. You can hot swap the external one without shutting down the laptop.
so-dimm is a form factor. there are two "shapes" of ram
first there is the u-dimm with 240 pins for ddr3 which is mainly for desktop computers
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Timetec-1600MHz-PC3-12800-Unbuffered-Arbeitsspeicher/dp/B00IV19IJ4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499706242&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=pc3-12800&psc=1
and then there is so-dimm with 204 pins for ddr3 which is usually used by mobile devices like notebooks, ultrabooks and so on
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-DDR3L-PC3L-12800-SODIMM-204-Pin/dp/B005LDLV6S/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1499706285&sr=8-4&keywords=pc3-12800+so-dimm
since your mainboard is an atx compatible desktop board you will have to buy u-dimm 240 pins or it wont fit into the ram-slot
i would suggest that you send a picture of cpu-z memory "page" and the infos of all slots form the "spd" side so i exactly know whats in your rig
If you want to go really small I'd just opt for a celeron based NUC, it has built in wifi and if your monitor is vesa compatible you can just mount it to the back of the monitor
Intel Celeron NUC $140
Intel 520 Series Cherryville 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $65
4GB Crucial DDR3L Memory $40
Gives you a fully functional PC that can fit in your hand.
The SSD would indeed improve your performance, and that's a nice choice too. However, this...
> especially when running more than one program
...And this...
> Memory: 4 GB
Mean you're probably more in the market for a RAM upgrade than anything else. I have the maximum 16 GB in that machine, but you would probably do great upgrading to just 8 GB. 4 just really is a bottleneck these days.
The 2011 iMacs use DDR3 Laptop RAM. You can find it for pretty cheap on Amazon. I've had good experiences with Crucial, so I'd recommend them, but they should all work equally well. 4x4 kits aren't really common, but two 2x4 works equally well.
RAM
I've got this in my cart with
it uses 1.35 (NOT 1.5V) 204 pin DDR3
I'd suggest staying with 1x8GB since your motherboard only has two RAM slots, and going with a slightly cheaper and lower latency stick:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B006YG9E7O/
> it's not far off.
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-PC3-12800-240-Pin-BLS8G3D1609DS1S00/dp/B006YG9E7O
lmao 60$
RAM: Crucial for $33 or Crucial Ballistix Sport for 39$
What's the difference?
EDIT: I'm planning on using the RAM for Gaming specifically, as I'm guessing that the 'sport' RAM is more tailored to that, but I'm wondering about actual differences
That is just one of the issues with speccy (the program showing this information)
Not exactly sure why, but it will read about half speed with dual channel ram. My ram only reads 799 Mhz when it is actually 1600.
So OP's ram is actually around ~2000Mhz range, which is above the average for the time being.
Any microcenters near you? They have that processor for $280 here, making for a nice $60 savings. If not, NCIX has it for $15 cheaper with free shipping.
RAM is way overpriced, I'd recommend Crucial Ballistix sport on Amazon, same kind of kit, 2x8gb 1600 mt/s. That'll save you $50.
That mobo seems a bit overpriced to me, there are some great high end boards that don't hit the $200 mark. This ASrock z87 Extreme4 on NewEgg has been ranted and raved about. But if you're looking for that overclocking utility, maybe stick with the Asus. I can't speak for their overclocking tools, but I can vouch for the quality of MSI's.
You could prolly get Windows 8 OEM a bit cheaper from somewhere else too, but it'll only save you $10 more.
If you can wait a week or two, I'd do that because Synology may be announcing some new NASs coming up. That's what I'm waiting for personally.
Barring that, at your budget and rate of expansion, I'd get a Synology 1815+ for $849 and then buy some extra RAM and add it in there for $30. BHPhotoVideo has the Synology available and no tax outside of NY. You don't have to get the official RAM from Synology, this one should work well.
Regarding RAID, it is supported to go from RAID-1 to RAID-5 and also RAID-5 to RAID-6. Stay away from the Synology Hybrid RAID (SHR), because there is no SHR -> SHR-2 or SHR -> RAID support.
https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/DSM/help/DSM/StorageManager/volume_diskgroup_change_raid_type
I have this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00CQ35GYE/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1449459281&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=4gb+ddr3l&dpPl=1&dpID=51EeCYSI-IL&ref=plSrch
No brainier at $20, plug and play, couldn't be easier. I would also really recommend an ssd too if you have the budget, they make a huge difference.
Specs:
Type|Item|Price
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CPU | Intel Pentium G4400 (3.3 GHz, LGA1151, Dual-core) | 55.95€ @ Amazon
Motherboard | Asus H110M-A/M.2 | 46,55€ @ PCComponentes (spanish shop)
Memory | Crucial - 8 GB (DDR4, DIMM 288, 2133 MHz) | 54.01€ @ Amazon
Graphics Card | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 (2 GB, PCIE 3.0, 128 bit, DisplayPort)) | 134.97€ @ Amazon
Box | Nox NXPAX | 19.03€ @ Amazon
Monitor | Acer Professional Value V226HQLAbd - 21.5" 1920x1080, LED | 89.99€ @ Amazon
Storage | Toshiba DT01ACA100 -1TB, 3.5'', SATA, 7200 rpm | 54.24€ @ Amazon
Power Supply | Aerocool KCAS-500W - 500W, 115 - 230V, 47/63 Hz, 12 cm, 20+4 pin ATX) | 38.00€ @ Amazon
Speakers | Trust Leto 2.0 6W (didn't want too much, just in case I'm not using the headphones) | 6€ @Amazon
Mouse | Zelotes T60 | 14€ @Amazon
Keyboard | Rii RK140, Mechanical imitation | 20€ @Amazon
|| |Total
||(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.) | ~540€
I have the Corsair LPX 3200MHZ CL16 ( CMK16GX4M2Z3200C16 ) B-Die version (v4.31). I have it at 3733 CL16 with some tightened timings @ 1.4v. Basically just been using the 1usmus's Ryzen DRAM Calculator, used some 3600 settings and upped it to 3733. Have you been using the DRAM calculator or basic motherboard profiles?
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RAM link: https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2Z3200C16-Vengeance-PC4-25600-1-35V/dp/B072LX99L9
Timings: https://imgur.com/a/854kaVv
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It's probably the cheapest way to get B-die if you can pre-confirm (or buy and return) that it's v4.31, if so then it's B-die, the other 2 or 3 versions are not. You can see which version it is through a window in the back without opening it, so if you can find local stock you can take a look before buying.
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Oh, I'm also on Pro Carbon AC, but with the original beta bios..
Update:
 
Just wanted to let you guys know I received Samsung B-Die on the first order (not exchanges necessary). Not sure if the request for 4.31 in the gift section helped. Either way, my first sub $100.00 B-Die :)
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Thanks OP! Ordered another pair of Corsair Vengeance 3200Mhz (likely Samsung B-Die). Brought it under $100.00 before tax...
 
https://www.amazon.ca/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2Z3200C16-Vengeance-Memory-PC4-25600/dp/B072LX99L9
I have all the components needed to upgrade to AM4 except RAM.
Should I wait for this order That's 3 to 5 weeks away from shipping? - Ordered on sale for $109.99 https://www.amazon.ca/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2Z3200C16-Vengeance-Memory-PC4-25600/dp/B072LX99L9/
Or should I get this instead which will ship faster and costs $15 more (it also doesn't appear on my mobo's supported memory list) - https://www.amazon.ca/Patriot-Viper-3400MHz-Gunmetal-heatshield/dp/B07N47DP2D/
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The first one supposedly has a chance to be a version with Samsung B-die.
These ones? https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B072LX99L9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I ordered these a few months ago and got v4.31 which is B die, you can use Thaiphoon burner to double check
7 year old 2600k just kaput. Need cpu+mobo+memory combo, looking at:
ryzen 2600 - 225
msi b450 tomahawk - 150
memory... lol at prices.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B072LX99L9/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1
Any recommendations? Don't know if waiting 10 days for BF deals is worth the savings.
$124 right now (5% cashback as well via CR or Shopback):
https://www.amazon.com.au/MECMD4-VLPX2X8G30D-CMK16GX4M2D3000C16-CORSAIR-VENGEANCE-3000MHZ/dp/B07B2Y1N8B
Corsair CMK16GX4M2D3000C16 Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4 3000 MHz C16 XMP 2.0 High Performance Desktop Memory Kit, Black https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07B2Y1N8B/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ebN1DbHE63PAS
https://www.amazon.ca/Ballistix-Sport-PC4-25600-288-Pin-Memory/dp/B07MNJP6RW/
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07NPKTRS1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Ballistix sport LT 16gb 3200 CL16 - $82.99
OR
Ballistix Elite 16gb 3600 CL16 - $137.54
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Which would be better for a RYZEN 3600?
ballistix 16gb 3600 cs16 (ryzen party) is 104.00 Ballistix Elite 16GB Kit (8GBx2) DDR4 3600 MT/s (PC4-28800) SR x8 DIMM 288-Pin Gaming Memory - BLE2K8G4D36BEEAK https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NPKTRS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_xVclDbZ7DHMNH
Sorry for the belated link
That RAM is not compatible.
The computer uses the UDIMM format. This will be compatible.
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Unbuffered-288-Pin-Desktop-CT8G4DFD8213/dp/B00MMLUYVU
It looks like all the SATA slots on your motherboard are already occupied.
You have only 3, and they are currently used by the hard drive, dvd drive, and SD card reader.
You'll need to pick which one to unplug so you can install the SSD.
You'll also need to format the SSD before you can use it.
https://primenow.amazon.com/dp/B00UFBZOVE?qid=1543288305&m=A12N5GSFP5XO7H&sr=1-2&ref_=pn_sr_sg_2_img_A12N5GSFP5XO7H
https://i.imgur.com/FPrnIik.png
Also 2400Mhz £97.19: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2A2400C16R-Vengeance-Performance-Desktop/dp/B017NW5NZY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1541939827&sr=8-1&keywords=CMK16GX4M2A2400C16R&th=1
Okay so I can't read this language, and I apologize (us Americans don't learn other languages like other first world countries lol) but I suggest this at your budget it is the same RAM I have and it works just fine with my Ryzen 5 1600 and faster RAM is a little out of price range
Edit: I suggest this RAM even if you switch your motherboard to the Gigabyte brand, which I would personally do just due to knowing the brand functions well as I have a Gigabyte MOBO myself albeit the full size ATX version
What is the difference in performance of these two sticks of RAM?
Crucial CT8G4DFS8213 8 GB
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01BIWLFGQ/?tag=pcp0f-21
Crucial CT8G4DFD8213 8 GB
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00MMLUYVU/?tag=pcp0f-21
Thank God I bought my RAM last year, had it sitting around for six months but I managed to snag two 8gb sticks for £23 each.
EDIT: This RAM was half price (went down to £23 at the time) for Prime Members on Black Friday.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00MMLUYVU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_qdz.yb72J8X9R
Product details show that it's 2133mhz ram. You can purchase any stick that has the speed of 2133mhz. This crucial stick is perfect! I believe the reason why you can't find the specific one is because that memory is probably custom ordered in vast quantities by Acer - instead of paying $50 for 8GB of ram, they only have to pay $30.
I'm not great at tweaking builds to get the absolute best performance for as cheap as possible, as I've always looked at the mid-tier when making my computers. But to me, that doesn't seem that bad considering the price. Honestly, I'm kind of amazed that you were able to cut it down that much.
I know it's not much, but this is the cheapest 8GB RAM stick on Amazon. Crucial is a good company, we use them all the time at work. It's only two bucks cheaper, but...it's better than nothing, right?
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Unbuffered-288-Pin-Desktop-CT8G4DFD8213/dp/B00MMLUYVU/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1478141424&sr=1-2&refinements=p_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A677427011%2Cp_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A10656894011
Another thing I'd recommend is salvaging a hard drive from anything. If you know of anybody who has an old laptop or something laying around, ask if you can buy the old drive for like $10 or something. If you know someone with a broken PS4 or something, that has a standard SATA laptop drive. Or even if you have an old laptop or something lying around, use that! I know it's not always possible, but it can't hurt to check. Yeah, you'd probably take a performance hit on using a crappy 5,400rpm laptop drive, but it'll be slightly cheaper.
If you hang on a second, I'll come back and make an edit with what I can narrow down on the video card
EDIT: Alright, after looking at the video card a little bit, you could try for a Nvidia 750ti. There's an open box deal on Newegg right now for $86.99. I'll put the link down at the end. Now it is not as good as the RX 460, but it's close in performance. Honestly I'd recommend going used for the video card. There are a lot of places you could do this, like your local Craigslist, eBay, or /r/hardwareswap. This is the most important part of the build (for playing Skyrim at least), and you really do get what you pay for. Used is probably the best way to go here. And you seem to have skimmed costs pretty much anywhere else you could, which is fine, because there's nothing inherently wrong with the rest of it, it just doesn't leave much to skimp on more. You could try to salvage a case from an old computer, or a friend/family member with an old computer. Old cases still work just fine, I actually used a case from 2002 until a year ago. That'd save you $20. Or you could even just put it in a cardboard box or something, maybe even just sit it on a piece of cardboard. It'd look ghetto, but I can't really think of much else :/
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121896R
Vertical807 - Flight Sim Addons/Specs/Sim Settings - November 28th, 2017
Peripherals:
Mouse: Senlleo Gaming Mouse
Keyboard: Sonfan Backlit Gaming Keyboard
Controls: Logitech G940 Flight System
Head Tracking: Track IR5 with hat-clip
Headset: Sades SA902B 7.1 Channel Virtual USB Surround Stereo
USB Hub: AmazonBasics 7 Port USB 2.0 Hub
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Computer Specs
CPU: Intel I5-6500, default clock
GPU: Gigabyte GTX1060 G1 Gaming
Motherboard: ASUS Micro ATX DDR4 LGA 1151 Motherboards H110M-E
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 200R Compact ATX
RAM:
Ballistix Sport LT 8GB Single DDR4 2400 MT/s
Kingston HyperX FURY Black 8GB 2133MHz DDR4
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Prepard3d_v4.1
Scenery:
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Global Base
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, TreesHD
Turbulent Designs
TerraFlora
Weather:
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Running Global Configuration!
Aircraft:
PMDG
PMDG 737 Base Package
, PMDG 737 Expansion
, PMDG 777 Base Package
, PMDG 777 Expansion
TFDI
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Settings and textures are in Thopat preset .rar file! Follow them as closely as possible!
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Better price on i7 here also try using this code for an additional 20% off CCNCMBQ216 (I heard it wasn't working for some people).
I would recommend browsing /r/buildapcsales
also better RAM (they are cheaper by themselves than in a 2 x 8gb)
Looking much better. If you can possibly get a better processor like an i5 that would be good. Im always fine with people getting budget parts but processors can last 5 years easy if you get a good one. But its up to you. I would get an ssd also. Even if its just big enough for a boot drive. If you want to save a little money, here is a stick of ram (https://www.amazon.com/Ballistix-Sport-Single-PC4-19200-288-Pin/dp/B00UFBZOVE/ref=sr_1_7?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1479922329&sr=1-7&keywords=ddr4+ram&refinements=p_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A677427011) that I would recommend because its cheaper and you have room to upgrade with another stick. 16gb is getting more popular/needed nowadays. I know that was alot and nit picky but I like to make things as perfect as possible. Especially after the mistakes that I have made with my build. Let me know what you think. The build below from zecro48 is nice.
This stick was not the one that was on sale. it was this one.
Ballistix Sport LT 8GB Single DDR4 2400 MT/s (PC4-19200) DIMM 288-Pin - BLS8G4D240FSB (Gray)
Hey all,
Thanks for your replies and help!
I've now switched the PSU and the SSD based on recommendations here. Also got rid of everything else than the components on the list so that people can see the price of the computer itself without all the extras.
I'm now considering getting 16GB of RAM instead of just 8GB. I think I've whittled down my choices to these two:
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 2666MHz
Corsair Vengeance LED 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4 2666MHz
Which one would you go for, or would you pick something else? Is it worth putting a little extra money to get more speed?
Thank you for your help!
Yes, for that price or even less there are some two-stick 16gb ram available that are 100% going to work fine together.
This Vengeance LPX DDR4 could be an example, but it depends on the rest of your set-up to find a compatible ram:
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2666MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0123ZC44Y/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=CMK16GX4M2A2666C16&qid=1573204958&sr=8-3
If you don’t know the difference you don’t need 32gbs of ram.
I’d like the above user said, get an ssd and ram upgrade as that’s pretty cheap and helps a lot! Especially the ssd.
Samsung 970 EVO SSD 1TB - M.2 NVMe Interface Internal Solid State Drive with V-NAND Technology (MZ-V7E1T0BW) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BN217QG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_i7K3Db5TA5R0K
Your gonna have to reinstall windows.
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2666MHz (PC4 21300) C16 Desktop Memory Kit - Black (CMK16GX4M2A2666C16) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0123ZC44Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_iaL3Db9MWZM5Z
The ssd will make a HUGE difference as well as the ram should help out but for sure get that SSD upgrade. And don’t get 32gbs of ram. That’s to much.
Just looking to purchase some more ram. is this a good choice or should I wait for something else?
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-2x16GB-3200MHz-Memory-CMK32GX4M2B3200C16/dp/B016ORTNI2/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=ram&psr=PDAY&qid=1563223440&s=prime-day&sr=1-1
My build: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/novahreal/saved/#view=GCvq4D
Look for p/n CMK32GX4M2B3200C16
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-2x16GB-3200MHz-Memory-CMK32GX4M2B3200C16/dp/B016ORTNI2
But be aware, there are several versions. The good ones are the 4.31 sticks
https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/wiki/ram/ddr4#wiki_corsair
Hey Guys, I was able to price match this after ordering to the amazon price (https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-PC4-24000-Memory/dp/B016ORTNI2/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8&th=1) of $179 (combined with the $15 android pay discount)!!! just got off of newegg chat!
Everything looks good imo, although you'll definitely want to pick up another Noctua A9 PWM fan for the cpu cooler as it only comes with 1 fan. Also I would look for some low profile ram as they will prolly interfere with the cpu cooler, like this: https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-2x16GB-3200MHz-Memory-CMK32GX4M2B3200C16/dp/B016ORTNI2/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=corsair+lpx+2x16gb&qid=1555870384&s=electronics&sr=1-6
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Also have to agree the 750 psu is prolly a bit overkill, but up to you lol.
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Some thermal paste as well if you don't have any: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZJS8Q6S/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Also, instead of watercooling later, why not slap on an Accelero III on the gpu instead? https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Accelero-Xtreme-III-CrossFire/dp/B007YLUCKQ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=accelero+III&qid=1555870038&s=electronics&sr=1-1-catcorr
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I debated going watercooling for a while too, and unless you plan to do some serious overclocking, I personally don't see the need for it. I have an Accelero III on my 2080 with a custom fan profile, and I can barely hear the fans when running demanding games. I hover between 60-64 degrees Celsius with an overclock and my fans don't spin up past 1500 rpm.
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If you do plan on going with the Accelero, I'd recommend getting these fans on the bottom of the case as exhaust: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C5VG64V/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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You'd basically get rid of the fan shroud on the stock Accelero and have the bottom fans set to exhaust. I have another A12 fan on the side bracket as intake as well, but that's up to you. I'm considering putting a 3.5mm hdd on there instead.
Thanks for the comments everyone, they were very helpful. I ended up getting:
AMD 3600X (the 3700X was $100 more)
32GB of Corsair LPX (crazy how cheap RAM is now, went with 32gb instead of 16gb)
MSI X570 Gaming Edge mobo
Came out to $630 with a free copy of BL3
You really need to have two sticks of whatever it is, regardless. Buy another one of the same brand/model of stick you already have or buy two smaller ones, but whatever you do, make it two.
I currently run 8gb x 4, each pack of two cost me about $80 because I bought Corsair Vengeance. They've gone down since then to under $70, so buying a good set really won't cost you too much.
For reference:
> https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-Vengeance-2400MHz-PC4-19200-Memory/dp/B017NW5NZY?th=1
I have these
That's probably one of the cheapest DDR4 2x8gb ram you can find. Also, you could just buy a second ram stick (identical to the one you already have), that works too. But if your stick is DDR3 might aswell just buy a new set, it'd be better for the future.
Edit: You can also go for 2x4 but more and more games start needing more than 8gbs, so that's up to you.
ah ok got you, you can get the corsair 2400mhz new ones for £105 i think on amazon
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2A2400C16R-Vengeance-Performance-Desktop/dp/B017NW5NZY/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1542751979&sr=1-2&keywords=16gb+ddr4
this is what you have
What you want is any ddr4 memory that is over 2400mhz or the same. If you go over, the new ram speed will be limited to 2400 if you keep this ram.
You can easily and cheaply acquire two 8gb stick for a total of 16 and throw these away or just take them out
new ram that is compatible
is it a good idea to buy from a "Just Launched" seller on amazon? they are called "Timeless Tenderness"
I'm looking at some kingston laptop RAM which they are selling for about $19.41 plus free shipping (from Australia) compared to $38.19 from the official Kingston amazon listing, also with free shipping.
The lowest price from Kingston was in April 2016 for $23.36 according to camelcamelcamel so the discount isn't that big compared to that price, which makes me think maybe it is legit?
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thanks
listing for:
Kingston Technology 4GB 1600MHz DDR3L PC3-12800 1.35V Non-ECC CL11 SODIMM Intel Laptop Memory KVR16LS11/4
Instead of 1 stick of 8gb ram get 2 sticks of 4gb. http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-HyperX-FURY-2x4GB-1600MHz/dp/B00J8E93G6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1408395344&sr=8-2&keywords=8+gb+ram This will help with dual channel memory. Unless your heart is set on the h440 you can probably get a case for much cheaper. For $20 more you SHOULD get the new i5-4690k. http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-Processor-BX80646I54690K/dp/B00KPRWB9G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1408395104&sr=8-1&keywords=i5+4670k This is completely personal, but I would get GTX 770 over a 280x. Again this is completely personal. Any other questions just ask.
I'd definitely get a 500GB SSD for booting and general speed, and probably another 8GB RAM. This to improve overall speed and smoothness of the OS.
I think your issue is Ram. You only have 4GB and most games now require 8GB minimum. I know with just sitting in the lobby I’m at 18.4% used out of my 16Gb. Would mean I’m using 40% almost if I had 8Gb. And 73.6% if I had only 4GB. This is just in the lobby I might add.
This isn’t account google chrome or other things I might have opened ether that’s eating my ram.
Br is less demanding then STW so that’s why you’re able to play it. I strongly think you need more Ram.
Edit: If you’re buying ram you’ll need to make sure your motherboard supports whatever ram you buy. DDR4 requires an entire new board. You can get 2 x 4 GB (8GB total) DDR3 1886MHz for 68$ (there are cheaper ones. But I trust this brand so I’m linking you this one.) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J8E93G6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_8nt4BbJ04C3VJ
There’s also more expensive DDR3 ram that’s 2x 8GB (16GB total). 16 GB is future proofing your current PC. However, if you’re gonna up to DDR4 eventually so might as well wait since you’d need an entirely new motherboard to support DDR4.
I’m sure there’s cheaper ram but use how many RAM Slots you have on your motherboard so I just linked you 2 x 4
I have a PC that I built FIVE YEARS AGO HERE that I never really touched since I got my laptop. I'm now getting back into casual PC gaming but don't know much about the hardware spec scene nowadays. I've been reading and it seems that I might be fine keeping my CPU but I'd likely need more RAM (2x4GB) and definitely a better graphics card. At this point I'm afraid of getting semi-expensive equipment only for me to have to redo the whole thing.
For reference I'm trying to play games like X-COM 2 (2016) and Dawn of War III (2017).
I've been looking at this RAM ( Kingston HyperX FURY 8GB )
And this GPU (NVIDIA GeForce 770)
So here are my questions:
Thanks in advance-- you guys and gals are wizards.
Mine says Speed: 800 MHz
and I have these Kingston ones, is that correct?
I went with the G3 board (got it for 145) with the 1600. OCed to 4ghz pretty easy at 1.3875 volts but when I can run 3.6ghz at 1.24 volts I just do that.
As for the ram in the end I got 2400 ram just cause the 20$ price difference. The small advantage for the more costly ram just isn't worth it. https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B017NW5NZY/?tag=pcp0f-20
Here is my full build if you are interested.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor | $278.25 @ shopRBC
Thermal Compound | Arctic Silver - 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste | $6.73 @ DirectCanada
Motherboard | Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard | $153.75 @ Vuugo
Memory | Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory | $133.89 @ Amazon Canada
Storage | Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $199.98 @ DirectCanada
Video Card | Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8GB Gaming 8G Video Card | $309.99 @ NCIX
Case | Corsair - SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case | $64.99 @ Amazon Canada
Power Supply | EVGA - BQ 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $79.99 @ Amazon Canada
Case Fan | Cooler Master - SickleFlow (Red) 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan | $7.19 @ DirectCanada
Case Fan | Cooler Master - SickleFlow (Red) 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan | $7.19 @ DirectCanada
Case Fan | Cooler Master - SickleFlow (Red) 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan | $7.19 @ DirectCanada
Case Fan | Cooler Master - SickleFlow (Red) 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan | $7.19 @ DirectCanada
Monitor | LG - 25UM58-P 25.0" 2560x1080 75Hz Monitor | $221.99 @ PC Canada
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $1478.32
That is pretty tight budget provided you want decent ram, power supply and motherboard.
But This it what i found
EVGA 500 watt 80+ white Power Supply £38.81 .
https://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-WHITE-Power-Supply-100-W1-0500-K3/dp/B01E4YRP8W/ref=sr_1_15?keywords=power+supply&qid=1573085737&sr=8-15 not the best psu but will work fine for your parts and budget.
Gigabyte B450M DS3H Motherboard £63.11 .
https://www.amazon.co.uk/GIGABYTE-B450M-DS3H-S-ATA-Socket/dp/B07FKNM8FQ/ref=sr_1_1?crid=676TTNTCMXBC&keywords=am4+motherboard&qid=1573085905&sprefix=am4++%2Caps%2C246&sr=8-1
AeroCool ATX Case £37.99.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aerocool-Mid-Tower-Tempered-Lighting-Included/dp/B07HWF3QY2/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=atx+case&qid=1573086472&sr=8-8
Crucial BX500 240gb SSD £29.50.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-CT240BX500SSD1Z-Internal-Solid-State/dp/B07G3KRZBX/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=bx500&qid=1573086566&sr=8-1
Corsair DDR4 2400mhz 2x8gb Ram £53.99.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2A2400C16-Vengeance-Performance-Desktop/dp/B017NW5NZY/ref=sr_1_15?keywords=corsair+ram&qid=1573086613&sr=8-15
Total Price is £223.4. The best i could go without going to cheap.
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If you were able to spend like £300 you could get better parts and would probably be happier with the final result.
Hmm, so it looks like it is a 7200rpm HDD so that should not be an issue. If you're passing vehicles and getting the fps drops, it could be the RAM not being fast enough/big enough to store the new data.
On the bright side, SSDs are cheap these days compared to 5 years ago and you can pick up a 240GB one strictly dedicated to FH4 and a few other games for 30 bucks.
If I were you, I would try upgrading RAM first to and see if the issue still persists since it is at the minimum of the minimum requirements. The HDD running at 100% is a bit concerning to me as well. Hence, maybe both may be the best route. This RAM and this SSD would run for 110 total.
And if you do get an SSD, make sure to get a sata 3 cable and ensure to plug it into the sata 3 port on your MOBO
Edit: Also, quick clarification question. Is it consistently at 100% or is it variable? If its variable that's fine as it is simply loading new areas and then stopping once loaded. Variable = 1-5 seconds in this case. In that sense, you may just need the RAM upgrade.
A VR build doesn't have to be stupid expensive anymore. Just keep in mind that no matter what you buy is going to replaced with bigger and better parts in a year or two. It's just how pc building works. Doesn't mean what you build will become shitty though. I'm a big fan of setting myself a budget and staying well below it. I prefer to keep my extra money in my pocket, but that's just me. I honestly think a 1080 or 1080TI is overkill unless you want to do some 4k gaming, but then that requires a 4k monitor. Not worth it if you're building a VR rig. Just my opinion.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor | $339.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler | Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $107.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | MSI - Z370 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $109.99 @ Amazon
Memory | Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory | $164.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $129.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $42.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Video Card | $499.99 @ Amazon
Case | Deepcool - DUKASE V2 ATX Mid Tower Case | $34.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply | EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $69.99 @ Amazon
Monitor | Asus - VG278Q 27.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor | $294.50 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $1795.21
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-21 18:50 EDT-0400 |
>I can overclock with it right?
Yep, all B350 boards support overclocking.
>In terms of the ram you're saying I would be better off with 2400 cl14 ram that I overclock than cl 16 3200 rated ram?
Yes, unlike Intel systems which RAM is usually rated for, Ryzen cares more about the type of IC used on the RAM than it's rating. Most 2400MHz - 3200MHz kits are Hynix MFR/AFR, and should overclock similarly on Ryzen.
>Is this ok?
That's a SODIMM - it's designed to be smaller to fit inside laptops and won't fit the RAM slots on your motherboard. I'd suggest this instead
Search for 8GB DDR4 2400 SODIMM. I would go with Kingston/Crucial. Link
I am looking at this ram:
Crucial by Micron
Since it is cheap and doesn't look "crazy gamy" I was wondering if it was reliable?
Thanks for your help!
You will absolutely 100% require an SSD upgrade, but otherwise, yes, you can run this at 720p just fine. I would strongly suggest doubling the RAM as well, but 8gb can "work" with less than optimal results. A decent SSD capable of fitting your core programs and Star Citizen would cost you a minimum of $30, though investing in a better one wouldn't be extraordinarily expensive and will last you a lot longer in a future build.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0781VSXBP A solid SSD
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Single-PC4-19200-SODIMM-260-Pin/dp/B01BIWKP58/ref=sr_1_3 DDR4 Laptop memory that should be compatible
Edit-Running on low will net you a bit of extra FPS and look mostly the same. Turn off Vsync, and turn off blurring effects. This will net you the best possible FPS.
I would recommend to get the GTX 1050 version of the Acer Aspire VX 15 it comes with everything you need , i5 quad core CPU which is one of the best in the market and great for your usage, 8 GB of ram for smooth multitasking, Good SSD storage of 256 GB for faster boot up and loading, Full HD IPS screen which is a must have for this price range, high build quality, very good heat management, long battery life.
Then I would use the extra money to add another ram and another HHD for the data files and you could order the HHD complimentary upgrade kit from here.
Ehhhh. Ill just bite the bullet and get that but its slightly cheaper on Amazon. Ill update you if it works or not and if i never see you again, thanks. Wait this part is the same right? Ram EDIT: Maybe kinda big update I went into Task manager and looked at memory, and it says 2 out of 2 slots used. uh-oh
here is a SODIMM stick that should match up with your trident 3 specs
here is a crucial mx500 500Gb SSD
You can get a cheaper/less space ssd like 128gb or 256gb If budget is an issue
Those two are all you need really
SSD yes, thats a good one to get.
Your ram however, is wrong. First, you need DDR4, not 3, which actually is probably cheaper at this point.
You will probably need to buy a matched pair of 4x4GB or buy a single 8GB upgrade.
I usually dont recommend mismatched memory, but it should work..
Any DDR4 2400 will work. I’d suggest Crucial or Ballistix by crucial.
https://www.amazon.com/Ballistix-Sport-PC4-19200-SODIMM-260-Pin/dp/B01DGOF3K8
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Single-PC4-19200-Unbuffered-260-Pin/dp/B01BIWKP58
Edit: I accidentally posted the 4gbx2 on the Ballistix. Just change capacity to 8 gb.
Mine was shipped with a DDR4-2400 8GB SO-DIMM by Samsung. I got a similarly specced Crucial (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01BIWKP58/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) to work dual-channel with it and all is good.
https://www.amazon.com/Ballistix-Sport-8GBx2-PC4-19200-288-Pin/dp/B01AG9EZ3M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467632936&sr=8-1&keywords=hyperx+ddr4+white
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-16GB-DDR4-Systems/dp/B01EI5Z2T6/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467632936&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=hyperx+ddr4+white
These that I got on sale at $109
Finally, after all these reviews, i'm going to buy these pieces and build my masterpiece-wannabe.
I would like to thanks /u/Raffles7683 for his dedicated, nice and smart help ! Also, thanks to /u/DIK-FUK and /u/golli123.
That's it, the final configuration, which is 2€ cheaper than the first one. WHAT A SAVE. But it's all the way better. I finally picked a I7-6700k as a CPU since nobody seems to know at which point a I5-6600k will bottleneck the GTX 1080, even with a 4.5 Ghz overclock. The debate is running litteraly everywhere and no one has the same point of view. So... I guess i can throw 100€ by the window to be sure and to overlock a i7 to 4.4 Ghz.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU |Intel Core i7-6700K | €325.79 - Amazon.it
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler | €34.99 - Amazon.it
Motherboard | Asus Z170-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | €109.61 - Amazon.fr
Memory | Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | €126.04 - Amazon.it
Storage | Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | €74.00 - Amazon.es
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | €53.44 - Amazon.fr
Video Card | KFA2 GeForce GTX 1080 EXOC 8GB Video Card | €560.00 - French shop
Case | Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case | €76.32 - Amazon.de
Power Supply | Corsair CSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | €78.99 - Amazon.es
Wireless Network Adapter | Asus PCE-AC56 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter | €48.00 - Amazon.de
Monitor | Acer XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor | €699.90 - French shop
| Total | €2187.08
I will provide some news in the future with, probably, in build photos :)
Looking to use an Asus ROG STRIX H370-I motherboard and trying to pick up some RAM for it.
On the specifications page it says that it takes DDR4 2666/2400/2133 MHz and
> ** DDR4 2666MHz and higher memory modules will run at max. 2666MHz on Intel® 8th Gen. 6-core or higher processors.
So does that mean I should just be looking at DDR4 2666? I have DDR4 3000 RAM on my list right now, but if it can't take full advantage of it, I'm gonna save the money.
Based on my grasp on the English language, it looks like it maxes out at DDR4 2666 no matter what, but I just wanna be sure. Thanks :)
Edit: and based on what I've seen, the RAM I'm looking at at DDR4 3000 is only $1 or $2 more expensive than the DDR4 2666 variant. Would it be alright to get the faster RAM and run it on this Asus board? Kinda future proofing and it's only a dollar more expensive.
I'm looking at getting some RAM for my build. The theme is black/white (mostly white) and so I was looking at these which just dropped in price a little. Do I pull the trigger, choose something different, or wait it out? My build isn't happening for another month or so, so I'm not sure if I should wait and see if prices go down. Thanks.
Is the RAM I have (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EI5Z2T6/ref=twister_B01M33CGCY?_encoding=UTF8&th=1) compatible with the MSI B350 pc mate? I went to the compatibility section on the MSI website (https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-PC-MATE#support-mem-1) and the exact same ram except in 3200MHz is supported, so I should be ok right?
I bought my ram for 107 tax included(?) December 2016. Currently 199usd
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01EI5Z2T6/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1509656792&sr=8-6&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=corsair+ddr4+16gb+3000mhz&dpPl=1&dpID=41tW6Kpw1xL&ref=plSrch
I've been using Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000MHz C15 RAM in a build I put together in the beginning of 2018.
I recently switched to an x470 MOBO and 2700X CPU, is it worth investing in this kind of RAM? I've heard really mixed opinions about the impact of RAM for Ryzen for current gen products.
If it matters, FPS is important, as I do need consistent 144+ FPS.
i have these ram sticks, could you check if they're good? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EI5Z2T6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
All bitching and moaning about price hikes aside this price isn't anything to write home about. Not saying it's getting any better, but it was cheaper last month.
Price back at $199. Selling for $139 at Amazon.
https://smile.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Flare-288-Pin-Memory-F4-3200C14D-16GFX/dp/B06XFT7DF9/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Model+F4-3200C14D-16GFX&qid=1565742294&s=gateway&sr=8-1
It'll run completely fine but won't overclock.
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Fast memory bandwidth is highly beneficial for Ryzen. I'd advise going for a 3200 CL14 B-Die kit like this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/G-SKILL-F4-3200C14D-16GFX-PC4-25600-Channel-Memory/dp/B06XFT7DF9
Awesome build!!!
The only suggestion I might have would be to verify the memory is made with B-die chips.
Here’s an example: G.SKILL Flare X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) AMD X370 Memory Model F4-3200C14D-16GFX https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XFT7DF9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_5uKwCbDFJ6Y26
Yeah the 2700x would be a step up for sure specially with all the multitasking you do. I'd get a gigabyte x470 aorus or asus rog strix b450 as for ram I'd want 3200 c14 G.Skill flare that ram should work great with the 2700x, and get you the speed you want.
send it back then. I assume you bought it on amazon. Just send it back and go for this TridentZ (2 x 16 rgb) or this Flare X (2 x 8 no rgb).
Contact the people building your rig and have them order 2 of these kits. They aren't cheap, but they're guaranteed to run at rated speeds with ryzen.
Edit: the guys building your rig probably didn't know about ryzen ram issues until building your rig. It's an easy thing to miss as I don't recall it ever being this way before where ram just won't run at rated speeds on one brand of cpu's.
[THIS] (https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Flare-288-Pin-Memory-F4-3200C14D-16GFX/dp/B06XFT7DF9/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1505683312&sr=1-1&keywords=F4-3200C14D-16GFX) is on the QVL but it's a bit more expensive.
For the [B350-TOMAHAWK] (https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-TOMAHAWK.html#support-mem-2) ,these are on the list & show as Samsung B-die.
[CMK16GX4M2B3200C16W] (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jjZ2FT/corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16w)
[F4-3200C14D-16GVK] (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jpH48d/gskill-memory-f43200c14d16gvk)
[F4-3200C14D-16GVR] (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9rDzK8/gskill-memory-f43200c14d16gvr)
Ok thanks. To save me mucking around would something like this be a better bet?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06XFT7DF9/ref=cm_sw_r_wa_apa_i_d1n7Ab9SZH5KG
I'm waiting on this to arrive for my new build.
Unfortunately, I bought earlier and at Amazon (when it was $249 each)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XFT7DF9/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have the G.SKILL F4-3200C14D-16GFX 8 GB x 2 (Flare X Series DDR4 3200 MHz PC4-25600 CL14 Dual Channel) in an Asrock X370 Taichi.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XFT7DF9
Using the XMP profile and CL14 timings at 3200MHz every time I cold start the system the bios resets after 3 failed boot attempts. If I change the timings to CL15 then it boots fine.
Hopefully the next bios update for the Taichi will fix the problem.
Good to know! After looking it seems like this would be the best deal for me: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06XFT7DF9/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ANNSJU9W28Y9J&psc=1
Crucial 16GB Single DDR4 2666... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071KP8CGJ?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
I have no idea if Ballistix works any better or worse. Ive had 0 problems with this one installed.
For the SSD, it's a no-brainer. You're far better off buying your own. Even with the BLACKFRIDAY10 coupon, the slot 1 upgrade is $319, the slot 2 addition is $527; a 970 EVO 1TB is $228, and you are guaranteed the best consumer-grade SSD on the market right now instead of playing the lottery.
For RAM, though, it's not as simple.
16 GB x2 of PC4-21300 SODIMM is $254.
The 32 GB x1 and 16 GB x2 upgrades are both $223 with the coupon.
The cheapest, however, is the 16 GB x1 upgrade at $74.41 with the coupon, plus another 16 GB x1 at $125, for a total of around $200.
Of course, if you get the 8 GB and replace it, 8 GB is worth around $60 new. However, I've never thought of the used RAM market as very strong, so I think you'd be lucky to get $20-30 right now. Alternatively, you could keep it for later.
I'm not sure how this works with Perks instead of the current coupon because I'm lazy, but "get the cheapest and just buy your own upgrades" is not always the least expensive route.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071KP8CGJ
Bought it at $120 last year rip
Crucial 2666mhz ddr4 Runs fine with the stock goldkey. Dual channel makes a huge difference on the OP with preventing cpu throttling/getting use of the full 45w of the 8750h, which will give u more stable & higher frames.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071KP8CGJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I bought this one for my 7590 that will be arriving next week (Hopefully).
I went with this Crucial 16Gb stick.
Can also get the 2x8 and sell your 16GB. Might save $50 or so.
The B-die version of this Corsair kit would be better than E-die for 3600cl14?
https://www.amazon.ca/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2Z3200C16-Vengeance-Memory-PC4-25600/dp/B072LX99L9/
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This is my ram.
I was able to set my RAM to 1600mhz now, after looking in the bios. I have memtest set up on a CD, so if I BSoD again Ill run that. According to the amazon.com specs page the voltage and timings are the same. Im going to go back and double check those now.
tribes DOES perform better with NVIDIA, id recommend going for a 760 for the best value for your money.
Regarding cpu, an i5 will do the job fine. Hell, there are still people who use the 2500k and get very, very good performance with it.
For ram, 8gb @1600mhz will do fine. Corsair Vengeance has been around for a while but does the job nicely, and is solid entry level ram. (make sure you get the low profile / lp version to prevent any clearance issues with your cpu cooler)
Newer RAM.
The price for that monitor is wrong, for 151.37€ you get 23".
It might be better to have 2 sticks of 4GB RAM, then it's dual channel (I think that's right). This Corsair LP Vengeance is good, only a few quid more but should improve performance.
Also yeah lower the PSU wattage, I have a 600w Corsair PSU in my build and I should have less power draw since I only have a GTX 760 GPU.
You might want to get low profile ram too, since the fans on those coolers can hang over the ram slots.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CML8GX3M2A1600C9-Vengeance-Profile-Performance/dp/B00569K7LM
I recommend this
Can you guys help me fix this?
I have 1600mhz ram but it shows up as 1333mhz.
http://imgur.com/IxHzwEF
Edit: This is the RAM: http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Desktop-Memory-CML8GX3M2A1600C9/dp/B00569K7LM
I have this mobo that supports DDR3 memory
https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z97%20Extreme3/index.us.asp?cat=Download&os=BIOS#BIOS
I currently have this RAM
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00569K7LM/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I bought new RAM to add
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008LTJJM2/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
But my PC wont even boot. I have my PC connected to my TV so it just says HDMI source not found or something
After removing the new RAM my PC booted like normal
What do I need to do to make the RAM work?
Here is my current setup with my old RAM
https://i.imgur.com/tmKXUZK.jpg
Sound card: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B006LFXBB8/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
CPU Cooler: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0068OI7T8/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
Power Supply: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001GLFD54/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00
CPU: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007RUZKK6/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00
Hard drive: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004CSIG1G/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i02
Motherboard: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005UDITT6/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i03
Case: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004HGE5Q8/ref=oh_details_o04_s01_i00
These last 3 are being dispatched, so cancelling will be harder. The rest can easily be cancelled!
WIFI card: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B006PMX964/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00
Disc drive! http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003SM3HH0/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00
RAM: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00569K7LM/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
Sorry about it being such a mess :/ the case, motherboard, RAM, are all if I remember correctly the same as the list shown in my original post. I like that case.
You most definitely can. You would be supporting the devs, which is always a good thing. However, you can build a more powerful box yourself for cheaper. Use these parts:
Zotac CI323 (Intel 3150 Quad Core @ 1.6GHz) - $150
Crucial DDR3L (1x4GB - system supports up to 8GB - don't need that much for pfSense, but knock yourself out). - $18.
ADATA SSD 32GB (way overkill for pfSense, if you can find a smaller one, go for it) - $28.
Total is ~$200. There are no fans. No moving parts. Pulls probably 10W. I'm using a little Chinese box with the same processor, 4GB RAM, and a small m.2 SATA. Haven't had a single hardware issue. That setup really is perfect for pfSense.
https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-Quad-Core-Graphics-Barebones-ZBOX-CI323NANO-U/dp/B0179S50UU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468022008&sr=8-1&keywords=ci323
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005LDLV6S/ref=twister_B00H8JVIKM?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/ADATA-Premier-Upgrade-Solution-ASP600S3-32GM-C/dp/B009SKB5HA/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1468022431&sr=1-3&keywords=ssd&refinements=p_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A14027456011
If you have storage elsewhere, or would be willing to go with a external USB drive, you could save a lot of money, space and power by going with the Intel NUC, youd also need the buy RAM, the Power cord, and a USB drive or mSATA drive. You'd be sub $250, and have no issues with 1080p in XBMC.
DDR3L 1600 SoDIMM is what you need.
Here is one on amazon for $17: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005LDLV6S/ref=psdc_172500_t1_B00CQ35GYE
Though I would personally recommend spending another $9 and getting an 8 GB stick to bring your total to 12 GB: http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-PC3-12800-204-Pin-Notebook-CT102464BF160B/dp/B006YG8X9Y
Definitely upgrade yourself. Opening the bottom is super easy - you just need a small phillips screwdriver and a spudger. If you don't have a spudger any thin piece of plastic will do.
Take care to get 1.35v ram like this, also known as DDR3L.
Hi,
With the upgrades you have listed, the Acer Aspire E 15 would indeed be fine option. If you want to replace the 2 GB stick, this 4 GB stick would be fine. Additionally, the Crucial MX500 500 GB M.2 SSD would be a good option for the boot drive, but you could for a smaller NVMe SSD if you wanted faster speeds.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Adding onto this, this is a link to a 4GB stick that I bought with my alpha.
boah! it took me several tries to comprehend your comment. Now I think I get it :). The RAM that I have installed in my new laptop looks like this one here.
I guess those are too few, chips, right? So even if I were to put just 1 of the 2 sticks into the Thinkpad, it would still not work, correct?
Could anyone give me an opinion on which of these three laptop RAM sticks to choose:
1
2
3
They all meet the required spec (SODIMM DDR3 4GB 1600MHz 1.5V), but I am leaning towards the Crucial one, as 1.35V should provide better compatibility if I move it to a future machine?
Went with these for my T450s purchase.
RAM: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LDLV6S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
HDD: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OBRE5UE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
You want to get a processor that supports aes-ni. That will allow SSL acceleration (opnvpn) and is also being required as of pfSense 2.5 and up.
I would choose this machine and purchase an unmanaged switch for your devices.Hope that helps!
2nd edit; I
wasam an idiot... OK, Here you go. Under budget and should do what you need....You can use this Zotac Barebones PC w/ the Celeron N3150 processor that supports AES-NI. Add some RAM and a SSD. Finally a Managed 8 Port Switch.
1st edit; Did not realize that I linked a celeron ( thanks u/suziesamantha ) as I thought it was a j1900 processor and then realized that the bay trail's also don't have aes-ni support. Sorry for the wrong information. The router I built is based on the Atom Rangley chip. You can use this link to help find aes-ni support.
I also have an X220 Tablet w/ Coreboot. I am using 8GB of RAM -- 2x Crucial 4GB, this is the kit: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LDLVAO
I had a lot of RAM problems with mine but nothing like what you're describing. I haven't tried mixing DIMM sizes. I couldn't get my X220t to boot up with any RAM w/ Coreboot until I finally gave up and tried a second motherboard from eBay. With that board I've tested this Crucial kit as well as some no-name Samsung 4GB DIMMs I had lying around.
That's just an Intel NUC. They are already overpriced for the specs but it's even more overpriced there. You mainly pay for the compact size.
If you want a NUC just get it off Amazon or somewhere cheaper:
Intel Core i3-4010U NUC Kit BOXD34010WYKH1
Crucial 8GB Kit (4GBx2)
Crucial M500 120GB mSATA
~$420
You would also need an OS. Windows 8.1 is probably ~$100
If you are doing photo editing, I probably would not recommend the Asus K501 as it's screen is a bit dim and only a TN display rather than a more vibrant IPS display.
If you're willing to upgrade the laptop, your best option may be to upgrade a Dell Inspiron 7559. It has an i7, 8gb of Ram, 1TB HDD, and 960M graphics card naturally. And a full 1080p IPS display with decent color reproduction. You can then buy another 8gb of ram for $32, and add an m.2 SSD in addition to the 1TB HDD for anywhere from $75 to $200 depending on how much you want to add.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006YG9E7O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_3Vg5ybKYCRTHQ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CLBZAHY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_dVg5ybH0T9YV9 this is my processor and ram , which are the only things I can get to you rn. I have 2 Sticks of 8gb
Memtestx86 isn't complete but found the following:
Tst: 8 Pass: 0 Failing Address: 004f4703f6c - 20295.1MB Good: ffff7fff Bad: ffff3fff Err-Bits: 00004000 Count: 1 CPU: 0
I'm waiting on the end of the test for the report but am I correct in assuming one of the new sticks is faulty? Is this likely a product defect?
I got these for 124.
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B006YG9EEW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
How do they stack up? Was it a good deal considering the specs (pretty newb, but learning as I go.)
I'm not an expert, but could probably go with https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Technology-1600MHz-PC3-12800-KVR16LS11/dp/B00CQ35GYE to add 4 GB and bring it up to a total of 6 GB.
How does this compare to these at $219? Pretty sure these are the b-die versions of the LPX, at least I hope they are... cause they’re more expensive then the other 3200 LPX ones on amazon. is there any way to tell once I’ve received them?
Corsair CMK16GX4M2Z3200C16 Vengeance LPX Memory 16GB (2 X 8GB) DDR4 3200 (PC4-25600) C16 1.35V, Black https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B072LX99L9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_dQ59BbX5ZRX7J
So this or these? https://www.amazon.ca/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2Z3200C16-Vengeance-Memory-PC4-25600/dp/B072LX99L9?SubscriptionId=AKIAJ7T5BOVUVRD2EFYQ&tag=camelcamelcam-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B072LX99L9
Just a heads up anyone ordering 4.32 voltage ram, the sticks i got are Samsung B-DIE sticks.
Manufacturer Corsair
Part Number CMK16GX4M2Z3200C16
Manufacturer Samsung
Die Density / Count 8 Gb B-die (Boltzmann / 20 nm) / 1 die
Corsair CMK16GX4M2Z3200C16 Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 X 8GB) DDR4 3200 (PC4-25600) C16 1.35V for AMD Ryzen Black
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B072LX99L9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B072LX99L9/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1
I haven't, I'll make sure enable it. As for the RAM I'm new the whole overclocking thing so I may have not gotten the best kind. Here's what I got.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072LX99L9/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have the b-die, and this is not this model that has the chance of being b-die when you order it. This is only hynix. The "lottery" ram that can have b-die is the https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072LX99L9 which is still 120$+
Not interested in buying, just thought I'd let you know that you can find 3000MHz new on amazon for just 12 pounds more.
same thing without RGB, but new - £11 cheaper and without any further fees
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2D3000C16W-Vengeance-Performance-Desktop/dp/B07B2Y1N8B/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1550582686&sr=8-2&keywords=ram%2B3000&th=1
Would something like this be better?
Corsair 3000MHz
Hey. I want to buy a 2600X Ryzen + b450 Tomahawk Mobo. Should i get a 3000mhz o 3200 Mhz ram? Will it change a lot? Its 50 € more.
Im thinking in buying this ram. Is it ok?
https://www.amazon.es/Corsair-Vengeance-LPX-Memoria-Rendimiento/dp/B07B2Y1N8B/ref=sr_1_10?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1542975129&sr=1-10&keywords=memoria%2Bram%2B3000&th=1
Thanks !!
Corsair Vengeance RAM comes highly recommended. This 3000 MHz, CL16, 2 pack of 8 is $78 right now (Link). You can also check r/buildapcsales for deals on RAM.
I would change ram for higher frequency, better power supply and cheaper b450 motherboard.
Ram 2x8GB 3000mhz 74,90 amazon.de
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07B2Y1N8B/
Corsair cxm 550W 67,39
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B019NWRUXK/
Motherboard b450 msi pro-a 91,99
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07FQBLHD6/
16gb of 3000mhz ram sells for £53 brand new on amazon right now. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2D3000C16-Vengeance-Performance-Desktop/dp/B07B2Y1N8B/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?keywords=16gb+ddr4&qid=1574604764&sprefix=16gb+&sr=8-6
Yours is worth £40 at most
Thank you, well spotted as I didn't see it had a cooler. Thanks. Yes done the ram to this https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07B2Y1N8B/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1 and I think 400w will be ok. Update - https://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-WHITE-Power-Supply-100-W1-0500-K3/dp/B01E4YRP8W# 500w PSU for same price as the 400w.
725 for the system parts is not bad. But 500gb SSD will run out super quick.
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The case is preference ofc, but 91 quid when you're spending 725 on the system seems much. Power Supply you can get much cheaper if you don't go for modular: https://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-WHITE-Power-Supply-100-W1-0600-K3/dp/B01127D0MY/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=power+supply&qid=1574334004&sr=8-6
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Every pound counts. The more you saved on these conveniences, the more you can spend on GPU. Sure you'll have ever so slightly harder time cable managing it, maybe case won't be full of RGB, but how often will you stare at it? 3600mhz ram might be overkill, 3000mhz for 50ish saves more. The benefit of high frequency ram on ryzen 3 might not be worth all that extra money. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07B2Y1N8B/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&th=1
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Some extra savings could be have with different mobo. Pump the savings into extra SSD and better GPU and you've got a killer system.
have you been to pcpartspicker.com?
You can start a build with that CPU and then select compatible parts based on price, reviews, and availability.
I just built a system based on the same CPU and motherboard. Here is the harddrive I used:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KGMBCKD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and the memory:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B2Y1N8B/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and the power supply:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077V57T7K/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I used an Inwin 301 case but I would not recommend it as the cable management is a little fiddly and the front panel has a giant LED plate that is not RGP controllable and can't be turned off or dimmed.
With your budget, you might look into getting him a 240mm all-in-one water cooler so he can plan with overclocking. Something like this would be sufficient:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hmBTwP/corsair-h100i-pro-750-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-cw-9060033-ww
For Ryzen 3000 series builds, I'm a bit confused here. There is this product, and there is this product.
Are they different whatsoever? The Corsair "for AMD" does not have this price reduction.
Thanks for that. Went through the list and changed RAM to:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B072LX99L9/ref=pe_3187911_185740111_TE_item
It’s compatible with the MSI B450 Carbon and is supposedly B-Die.
I see well do you think RAM and PSU prices will go down? I am looking at this kit of Corsair RAM and it's currently on sale and this EVGA PSU which is also on sale.
I recommend these if you’re building a ryzen system and these for intel
Hey, I think I might buy this ones and sell the old ones I had. What do you think?
I can't find much information on this particular Corsair Vengeance LPX ram (CMK16GX4M2Z3200C16).
Is this ram compatible with the MSI B350 Tomahawk? It's not showing up on their compatibility list, but I've found one result on google of a user saying they've been able to use that combination. Just want to make sure they would work together.
I may go with the 3600X due to the availability issues of the 3600 if I order in the next day or two. The money I would be saving by buying the B450 mobo instead makes it come out to the same total price.
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By the way, here is what I am looking at currently:
B450 mobo - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F7W5KJS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
Corsair DDR4 3200 2x8GB RAM - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072LX99L9/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
Ryzen 5 3600K - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07SQBFN2D/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
Alright so I'm currently split between the Corsair LPX that was posted earlier and the Ripjaws V. Problem is, neither is on my motherboards QVL B350-F QVL. Does it really matter either way? It looks like very similar ram to both of the ones I mentioned is on the QVL. Which should I go for? I'm leaning towards the Corsair currently
Hi, currently in the process of building a new rig. I was checking out a deal from a few days ago about some B Die Ram (corsair ones).
Apparently these Corsair (CMK16GX4M2Z3200C16) are B Die.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B072LX99L9/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1
I was currently eyeing the same sticks but in white color. The SKU is almost the same (CMK16GX4M2Z3200C16W) but there is an extra W at the end.
Would the black ones be my only B die option here? Or the white are automatically b die too since it's only a color swap?
Thank you and sorry for the mobile format!
I'm thinking of buying a Ryzen 3600 and am wondering what RAM to buy. I saw another post mentioning Hynix vs Samsung and got slightly worried. Someone else also mentioned I could overclock either 3000/3200 to 3733 (optimal frequency for Ryzen apparently) and so it wouldn't matter which one I would get.
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I'm currently thinking of buying one of these sets:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMW16GX4M2C3200C16W-Vengeance-Enthusiast-Illuminated/dp/B07D5SN1ZK/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=rgb+16gb+ram&qid=1562968837&s=gateway&sr=8-1
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2D3000C16-Vengeance-Performance-Desktop/dp/B07B2Y1N8B/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=16gb+ram&qid=1562969143&s=gateway&sr=8-3
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2B3200C16-Vengeance-Performance-Desktop/dp/B0143UM4TC/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=16gb+ram&qid=1562969156&s=gateway&sr=8-4
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My other specs will be:
GPU: GTX 1060 3GB
CPU: Ryzen 5 3600
Mobo: B350 Tomohawk (Arctic)
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Essentially I'm not sure what matters for buying RAM (especially for Ryzen) other than its frequency. Are these choices good or should I go for something entirely different?
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Thanks for any help!
Would it make the most sense then from a cost efficiency perspective to just buy 16x2 of Corsair, the same RAM speed (or should I get 3866)? How do I know if I can get Dual Channel?
I noticed that 3000 vs. 3200 vs. 3866 there is a pretty big difference in price for 2x8.
Is there any difference between these two besides price?
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0134EW7G8/
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-PC4-24000-Desktop-Memory/dp/B07B2Y1N8B/
Intel BX80677I57400 7th Gen Core Desktop Processors https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MSTDS3N/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_1.rlDbXN60GX0
Sapphire 11266-04-20G Radeon Pulse RX 570 4GB GDDR5 Dual HDMI/ DVI-D/ Dual DP OC with Backplate (UEFI) PCI-E Graphics Card https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06ZY21842/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_LaslDb810ZVHP
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 X 8GB) DDR4 3000 (PC4-24000) C16 1.35V Desktop Memory - Black PC Memory CMK16GX4M2D3000C16 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B2Y1N8B/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_IbslDbQVHVZMW
2 of the things are prime day items, so act fast.
I have a https://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/Z97A/specifications/ - I have G.Skill RipJawsX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL purchased 5 years ago.
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If I purchased: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07B2Y1N8B/?tag=pcp0f-21&th=1 - (3000mhz) Would the newer ram just be limited to 1600mhz?
What about this one?
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07B2Y1N8B/ref=pd_luc_rh_crh_rh_sbs_02_04_t_ttl_lh?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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EDIT: Thanks for the responses by the way!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B2Y1N8B/?tag=pcpapi-20
I would go for the Corsair, a little cheaper atm too.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07B2Y1N8B/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_wOa2Db0AF8N3G?th=1
Great price, how does this ram compare to this corsair ram feel like I'm missing something?
Yes. Perfect, except there's cheaper RAM https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B2Y1N8B/?tag=pcpapi-20
When I say driver error im referring to the blue screen code windows gives me, which is IRQL_not_less_or_equal or something of that nature. I have 2 modules, this is my RAM https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B2Y1N8B/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1.
Yes, it’s down below in the similar items section. Here
That seals the deal then! Guess i'll order the 2600x and the cheaper mainboard then. One last question before I can finally place an order :
[I found these RAM Sticks] (https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07B2Y1N8B/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&psc=1) and they are almost the same except C15/C16. I've read that it has something to do with latency/speed, yet I couldn't find out if spending 17€ more would be worth it in my case.
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07NPKTRS1/ref=s9_acsd_bw_wf_a_BTSmainw_cdl_21?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_r=1TKSABJZATPSJZDTH9DY&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=06e82be3-68aa-4d3a-9d5e-cf37d12730f4&pf_rd_i=15201447011&th=1 get this ram instead way tighter timings
Hi all, I'm noob & looking to do a 3700x/x570 build. Would these 3200 RAM be it for me or would..
Ballistix Elite 16GB Kit (8GBx2) DDR4 3600 MT/s (PC4-28800) SR x8 DIMM 288-Pin Gaming Memory - BLE2K8G4D36BEEAK https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NPKTRS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_AKklDbG76ZJND be better @ $105?
I plan on streaming + gaming. thanks
I was looking at this kit: 194.41€
Crucial Ballistix Elite BLE2K8G4D36BEEAK Memoria Gaming Kit per Computer Fissi, 3600 MHz, DDR4, DRAM, 16 GB (8 GB x 2), CL16 https://www.amazon.it/dp/B07NPKTRS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_edbzDbAACZJDW
Single stick: 82.83€*2= 162.66€
Crucial Ballistix Elite BLE8G4D36BEEAK Memoria Gaming per Computer Fissi, 3600 MHz, DDR4, DRAM, 8 GB, CL16 https://www.amazon.it/dp/B07NPKP6ZR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_nebzDb11PXKSE
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-Desktop-Gaming-BLE2K8G4D36BEEAK/dp/B07NPKTRS1/ref=gp_aw_ybh_a_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=SP5CGCFFFV912V2BQPAB
This is the micron E die. Sorry about the ugly link, I’m on mobile.
Another question: I could get the Crucial Ballistix Elite 3600cl16 for 106 € (not aes, https://www.amazon.es/Ballistix-Elite-BLE2K8G4D36BEEAK-PC4-28800-Single-Rank/dp/B07NPKTRS1/). Are they gonna perform better than 3000cl15 (70 €) or is it just oc luck?
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I've been working on overclocking this ram. These are my current settings and stress results. From what others have said, I am really lucky to have the tRFC stable at 580. This kit has been super difficult to OC.
I couldn't get it over 3733 until I reset bios to factory defaults, set XMP, and then set the timing to 4000. It booted then and the timings were 18-20-20-43 and the secondaries were much looser. I've adjusted RRD, WTR, RTP. I haven't messed with FAW and if I move CWL at all I get a bios switch which are a pain to deal with on my board (aorus z390 ultra)
I've tried upping the voltage and moving to 4100 to no avail, I moved to 18-18-18 and it was totally unstable. Any feedback is welcome. What timings should I tighten etc. Anyway, edie adventure continues...
Lol my bad clearly I can’t read
This is the product link for ram https://www.amazon.ca/Crucial-Ballistix-Desktop-Gaming-BLE2K8G4D36BEEAK/dp/B07NPKTRS1
The motherboard is one of the best out there, so no worries there. Here is the kit I purchased on Prime Day for $99. https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-Desktop-Gaming-BLE2K8G4D36BEEAK/dp/B07NPKTRS1/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=ballistix%2Belite%2B3600&qid=1569778983&s=electronics&sr=1-1&th=1
Did upping the DRAM voltage work for you? The sticks do need a little more juice to work. With the 3200 MHz sticks, I would get tons of errors in Memtest at 1.35V, but none at 1.4V.
So I bought this RAM kit from Microcenter about 3 months ago for under $120. I was considering buying another two sticks but I haven't seen it under $150 since then. What's going on with RAM prices? Should I hold out hope for another sale in the next few months?
This is what I use with mine and it works great. Crucial Ballistix Elite 3600 MHz DDR4 DRAM Desktop Gaming Memory Kit 16GB (8GBx2) CL16 BLE2K8G4D36BEEAK https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NPKTRS1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_OP6LDb3QAYQHP
Based on amazon reviews it will work:
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-Desktop-Gaming-BLE2K8G4D36BEEAK/dp/B07NPKTRS1#customerReviews
Thank you! So do you think thiswould be a much better option?
Its 3600 as well, I believe, if I'm reading it right. So I wouldn't need to overclock?
Thank you - I think I'm gonna just go with an Asus x470 board (ROG strix). I picked up the Ballistix elite ram that was on sale on amazon (overkill?)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NPKTRS1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
i have to go to micro center tomorrow and im hoping maybe if I purchase the board there they will just flash the bios for me so I dont have to go through the dance with amd for a mail in cpu
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07NPKTRS1/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1
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Back in Stock!! but ships in one month
Bought Crucial Ballistix Elite 16gb 3600 CL16 RAM on Prime Day for $104. Still hasn't shipped yet.
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Should I cancel that order and pick up the CL16 variant of the Neo's when they come back in stock? They look so much nicer, just not sure if the extra $65 is worth it.
"When the prices go down" is pretty vague.... anyways I put together this from Amazon.UK since they do ship to the Netherlands.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type|Item|Price
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CPU | Intel - Pentium G4600 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor | £86.70 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard | Gigabyte - GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | £65.12 @ Amazon UK
Memory | Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory | £62.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage | PNY - CS1311 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | £39.47 @ Amazon UK
Storage | Toshiba - 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | £40.00 @ Amazon UK
Video Card | Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Mini Video Card | £189.99 @ Amazon UK
Case | Fractal Design - Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case | £29.97 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply | Corsair - Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | £49.98 @ Amazon UK
Operating System | Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro Full - USB 32/64-bit | £98.90 @ Amazon UK
Monitor | BenQ - GW2470H 23.8" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor | £99.72 @ Amazon UK
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | £762.84
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-13 10:20 BST+0100 |
If you must have a mid-tower ATX rather than MiniATX, try this case.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00IJERNTK/?tag=pcp0f-21
8GB of RAM should be fine for your use, but if you need the 16:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B017NW5NZY/?tag=pcp0f-21
Maybe that montior has some specific thing about it making it better, but I think you can get a similar one for cheaper: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=1920x1080+144Hz+Monitor+24inch
G2 (older version of PSU) basically the same but cheaper: https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1502726558&sr=8-3&keywords=gold+modular+psu
Cheaper similar quality RAM: https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2400MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B017NW5NZY/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1502726630&sr=1-3&keywords=ddr4+2400
Cheaper MoBo Options: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=msi+mother+baord+ddr4+lga1151&rh=n%3A172282%2Ck%3Amsi+mother+baord+ddr4+lga1151
That gpu man, $600 get something cheaper, I promise that 1 year from now you will feel silly having spent $600 on just a GPU.
Just making sure we are looking at the same parts
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MPG-X570-GAMING-EDGE-WIFI/Specification
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2400MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B017NW5NZY
I compared the two and looked at everything. I even ran it through pcpartpicker.com and it didn't say there were any issues. I also went ahead and rebuilt your pc on pcpartpicker. I'm now really leaning towards a bad motherboard or processor. Maybe even storage.
You can also try reseating all of the other hardware including any power cables.
Made this real quick, any questions let me know :)
CPU: Intel Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B360M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 256 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($39.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Computer 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Pulse Rx 570 4gb ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair VS 450 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $745
I got these so a little slower than yours I think? I will eventually move to a bigger case and motherboard I think, I quite like having a smallish PC at the moment.
Hello, first post here.
I need to get ram within a week and I am thinking about this http://m.ebay.ca/itm/181966684739?roken=cUgayN&_mwBanner=1
But it costs $170 and last sale went out of stock.
Next option is
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B017NW5NZY/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1
Has good reviews at amazon.com, anything better?
Should I expect to find more sales in the next few days?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017NW5NZY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Not sure manufacture but works well
I dont wanna do another useless threat so I'm gonna ask here.
Right now I have AMD Athlon 200GE, motherboard MSI A320M PRO-VD/S and some random Micro ATX (uATX) case.
My question is which GPU I should buy for this kind of cpu? I'm thinking about gtx 1660 and 1060 and no, i'm not gonna buy any gpu from radeon
Also I dont have any RAM right now so this ram will be good enough?
Um I'm not sure I am following I don't think the nuc comes with 4 GB of ram. The one I recommended was:
These are the main components since you have a bluetooth mouse/keyboard already. for a system cost of $465.36
Then the accessories would include:
or if you decide to go with monitors with current connections either DP or HDMI in which scenario you'd need 1x USB-C to DP cable and 1x HDMI cable
Or if you went with just 1 34" Ultrawide you'd only need either 1x USB-C to DisplayPort or HDMI cable or 1x HDMI cable.
The only thing I recommend if you go with new monitors is to invest in IPS panels over TN or VA panels because they are higher quality and last longer.
Does that clarify things a bit for you?
Hey guys I wanted to ask a quick question. Since it's prime day I want to buy new ram for my alienware r3 15 laptop. I was wondering is their anything specific I should look out for? Like does the GB or speed need to match? Or does need to be from the same manufacturer Or can I just purchase any ram? Thanks in advance :)
Edit : the OEM ram is from sk hynix China. Its 2400T. Can it go with the curcial ram.
(Crucial CT8G4SFS824A 8 GB (DDR4, 2400 MT/s,
PC4-19200, Single Rank x8, SODIMM, 260-Pin) Memory https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01BIWKP58/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_kDdlDbETAND5X)
The one soldered on is 2400mhz(PC4 19200) DDR4 CL17. You should get the same spec single rank memory:
Crucial:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BIWKP58/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Kingston:
https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Technology-ValueRAM-2400Mhz-KVR24S17S8/dp/B01LW6HBSM/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=8gb+sodimm+DDR4+2400+cl16&qid=1566200789&s=gateway&sr=8-4
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Ballistix:
https://www.amazon.com/Ballistix-Single-PC4-19200-SODIMM-260-Pin/dp/B01M8LGMZ6/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=8gb+sodimm+DDR4+2400+cl16&qid=1566200860&s=gateway&sr=8-3
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If you get faster ram for cheaper, you can use that as well it will just run at a lower frequency.
Does it come with one 8GB stick installed or 2x4GB? I would like to upgrade it to 16GB by adding one stick like: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BIWKP58
Ah cool thanks. What RAM did you buy? Been ages since I've messed about with stuff like this, trying to see on Lenovo which RAM module I need. Just an 8GB one will suit me, I think. Will this one work?
Crucial CT8G4SFS824A 8 GB (DDR4, 2400 MT/s, PC4-19200, SRx8, SODIMM, 260-Pin) Memory https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01BIWKP58/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_KrLZAbAWKK8AD
> 8GB DDR4 2400MHz SODIMM
Will this work in dual channel?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BIWKP58/ref=psdc_172500_t2_B014R8JYDO
RAM.
What model laptop do you have?
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Single-PC4-19200-SODIMM-260-Pin/dp/B01BIWKP58/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=ddr4%2Bsdram&qid=1567369839&s=gateway&sr=8-6&th=1
Would this ram stick work?
Looking into a suitable SSD. I'm leaning towards this -
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07KGMBCKD/ref=psdc_430505031_t1_B07P7TFKRH?th=1
Its M.2 NNMe, good reviews affordable. Just want to make sure this is compatible.
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I'm at work, so I can't check what Ram I have, but I think its safe to guess from the Model and its specs that I have a 8GB DDR4 2400 mt/s SODIMM (260-pin?) and looking into also getting this which I think is compatible -
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-CT8G4SFS824A-PC4-19200-Single-260-Pin/dp/B01BIWKP58/
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If all this for under £100 can get me another year at of the Laptop, definitely worth it.
I read is suppsed to be easy to upgrade the RAM yourself. I belive this a compatible module -> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BIWKP58/ref=twister_B07QS53HB7?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
It seems like a lot of trouble to order a new unit and return the current unit when you can upgrade the RAM anytime you like. Especially if you are not noticing any performance issues, you may just want to wait and upgrade to 20GB in the future by removing the 4GB stick and replacing it with a 16GB stick.
Just my thoughts. Seems like a lot of trouble just for 4GB more RAM but having less CPU speed while also spending all of the time with OS re-setup and returning your unit.
https://www.amazon.it/Crucial-CT8G4SFS824A-Memoria-PC4-19200-260-Pin/dp/B01BIWKP58/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_it_IT=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=1N3I88UVLPJIO&keywords=sodimm+ddr4+8gb&qid=1571476524&sprefix=sodimm+ddr4%2Caps%2C185&sr=8-1
o bugger :( , i have just upgraded the ram a couple of months ago. I added a pair of CrucialCT8G4SFS824A 8 GB (DDR4, 2400 MT/s, PC4-19200, Single Rank x8, SODIMM, 260-Pin) Memory https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01BIWKP58/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This is not good news, i dont think i can return them now. I did run memtest for a couple of hours when i installed them.
Even if you factor in the RAM https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01BIWKP58/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1 and the SSD https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07CGGNX7S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 it is still a great deal, IMO.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BIWKP58
Dell Inspiron 15 7567 - The model with the i5-7300HQ, 1050ti, and 256GB SSD.
Also installed are an additional 8GB of matched RAM and a 1TB Firecuda SSHD
I am waiting to order my 15 r3 until Black Friday because it will 1,299 and its config is i7, 1tb, 1060, 8gb ram. I am going to order: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015SOI392/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A17MC6HOH9AVE6
and: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BIWKP58/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Is $159.99 a good sale price for RAM? I'm building my first ever build and don't want to get too screwed over.
(https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B01EI5Z2T6/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1511206265&sr=1-1&keywords=Corsair+Vengeance+LPX+16GB+%282x8GB%29+DDR4+DRAM+3000MHz+C15+Desktop+Memory+Kit+-+White+%28CMK16GX4M2B3000C15W%29)
What would your opinion be on these https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EI5Z2T6/?tag=pcpapi-20&th=1
or should I keep the currents ones and not try to shave of price for ram quality 0.0
and thank you for your help!
I'll be making a crazy rig too with the profits! I might be able to deduct it in my taxes. Anyone can confirm?
By the way if you do end up buying ryzen, make sure to LEAVE A REVIEW. Those things will help alot AMD with mainshare.
This is the rig that i'm still researching on. I'm taking suggestions!
CPU:
GRAPHICS:
CASE:
SSD:
Ram:
Water cooling
sorry for super ugly formatting.. i don't know how to...
Any good prices right now for ddr4 3000mhz? I'm thinking about getting this https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01EI5Z2T6/?tag=pcp0f-20
I don't know how often/how low they go for when they do go on sale.
I'm getting pretty impatient lol
How's this look? https://smile.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3200MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0143UM4TC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1538864943&sr=8-2&keywords=16gb+ram+ddr4+3200
Or I could get 3000 for slightly less: https://smile.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B01EI5Z2T6/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1538862927&sr=1-3&keywords=16gb%2Bram%2Bddr4&dpID=41AGvSmY-fL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch&th=1
Here is what you should preferably be getting. Though that open case design is definitely... interesting.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor | $338.44 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler | Enermax ETS-T40F-W 105.9 CFM CPU Cooler | $46.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | MSI Z270 TOMAHAWK ARCTIC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $139.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory | Corsair Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $114.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $93.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $66.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card | Asus Radeon RX 480 8GB Dual OC Video Card | Purchased For $0.00
Case | Thermaltake Core P3 SE Snow Edition ATX Mid Tower Case | $84.99 @ SuperBiiz
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $886.18
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-13 10:55 EDT-0400 |
Here is another option for RAM if you prefer no LEDs. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EI5Z2T6/?tag=pcpapi-20
the are the same. just color and led is different.
here's some for $118
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B01EI5Z2T6/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1491981035&sr=1-1&keywords=ddr4%2B16gb%2Bram&th=1
or $115
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233863&cm_re=corsair_vengeance_lpx_ddr4_3000-_-20-233-863-_-Product
https://www.amazon.ca/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B01EI5Z2T6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1520883885&sr=8-3&keywords=corsair+vengeance+lpx+16gb+2+x+8gb
worth it to spend $19 more and get the Corsair instead?
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-16GB-DDR4-Systems/dp/B01EI5Z2T6/ref=sr_1_3_m?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1480620674&sr=1-3&refinements=p_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A677429011%2Cp_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A10656894011%2Cp_n_availability%3A1248801011&th=1
You could probably get higher clock speed ram for not much more, my 16GB of Corsair Vengeance@3000 is available on amazon for $87
https://www.amazon.com.au/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2B3000C15W-3000MHz-Vengeance-White/dp/B01EI5Z2T6/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=Corsair+Vengeance+LPX+16GB+%282x8GB%29+DDR4&qid=1554968144&s=gateway&sr=8-3
$172.12
I was looking for RAM for my new PC build and I came across some white Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3000Mhz, but I saw that there were two models that looked exactly the same.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B4G525F/?tag=pcpapi-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EI5Z2T6/?tag=pcpapi-20
Are these RAM sticks the same, or is there a difference between the two?
This is the RAM I bought. It's the Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000.
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EI5Z2T6
Note: I originally posted this on the Anandtech forums and got some good answers there but I'm interested in seeing if anybody has some other ideas here.
Updated my X370 Prime Pro to Asus BIOS 5008 (from two weeks ago) in preparation for a new CPU, now I'm having some weird issues with memory.
I saw a small decrease in performance in Cinebench R20 on my R7 1700 @ 3.8Ghz vs. the previous BIOS I had (which was from 2017) but I'm not worried about this as I'm presuming it's due to some vulnerability mitigation.
This is the memory I am using. As you can see it is supposed to be able to do timings in the range of 15-15-15-35.
On the old BIOS I was never able to get the RAM to run at DDR4-3000, it always just wanted to run at DDR4-2933 or it wouldn't boot. This isn't a big deal so I was fine. However, with the new BIOS, I can boot with a D.O.C.P./XMP profile at DDR4-3000 with 15-17-17-35 timings.
With this timing, it boots with no issues on the new BIOS, however there is a massive performance regression vs. 2933 with the relatively poor auto timings. Specifically the benchmark I was testing with was Superposition, which is supposed to be a GPU-focused benchmark, but with 3000Mhz/15-17-17-35 config I was seeing the GPU get significantly bottlenecked (85% utilization) and a 15% decrease in performance vs. 2933 with the auto timings. (Gigabyte Gaming G1 GTX 1080, at stock clocks it's usually around 7000 points in the 4K/optimized test and with the D.O.C.P. timings I was getting around 6000 points).
So I have a few questions:
Thanks in advanced, I'm a noob when it comes to memory overclocking and tuning timings.
About to pickup this but at 2x8Gb 3000MHz for 159.99 from Amazon and pair it with an i5-8600K on ASRock Extreme4 board.
Is this really worth it for 4$ more (+Tax +S/H -Amazon Customer Service)?
This is the link to the ram: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01EI5Z2T6/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1511217761&sr=8-3&refinements=p_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A677429011&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=corsair+vengeance&dpPl=1&dpID=41tW6Kpw1xL&ref=plSrch#nav-search-keywords
Thank you for the quick response. So you're telling me they just chose to leave off the letter s?
i just built a 1600 with the same board and https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EI5Z2T6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 for the ram and i have the the 1600 clocked at 3.6 on stock cooler and ram at 2667 with no issues at all
The RAM is non-LED: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4 3000 C15
I use two kits and run them at advertised speeds. 32gb(8x4) at 3200 cl14 1t.G.SKILL Flare X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) AMD X370 Memory Model F4-3200C14D-16GFX https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XFT7DF9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_.7vlDbQSH5VXG
What about this set? Seems similar, but it's 139.
https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Flare-288-Pin-Memory-F4-3200C14D-16GFX/dp/B06XFT7DF9/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_147_t_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=KG54D4XWG0QXDJF5Z3VE
https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Flare-288-Pin-Memory-F4-3200C14D-16GFX/dp/B06XFT7DF9/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1&tag=rlncg40d-20&linkId=b62cad7b40cbec3b42f9566bdcdc834b&language=en_US
What do you think about this ram?
I had to get it since the website i was buying it from was out off the ripjaw ram. Also i saw that they were made for amd and they looked good in benchmarks.
Samsung b-die @ 3200 with CAS 14 (at least) timing is the RAM you want.
Here is a better deal for the same price: https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Flare-288-Pin-Memory-F4-3200C14D-16GFX/dp/B06XFT7DF9/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1536593608&sr=8-6&keywords=3200+C14
For the RGB fan: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820236442
Timing 14-14-14-34
Both of these are the same price or lower than what you have.
Here's one that is better and will save you QUITE a bit of money, but I'm not sure about their customer support with great timings 14-14-14-31 and is Samsung B-die: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313712 or https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313711
Powerful build for gaming, i would go for different ram though, i have had issues with corsair vengeance ram with Ryzen. I would look for something with cl14 if i were you, something like this. https://www.amazon.co.uk/G-SKILL-F4-3200C14D-16GFX-PC4-25600-Channel-Memory/dp/B06XFT7DF9
Is this a good choice? [3200 ram](G.SKILL Flare X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) AMD X370 Memory Model F4-3200C14D-16GFX https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XFT7DF9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_oOn-BbSDS0VYE)
> Price on top tier ram kits is bonkers atm tho :/
Literally Top Tier RAM: €190 on Amazon.co.uk for 3200MHz 14-14, they are just as fast as my sticks, very good price. RGB costs €230 from Germany.
Just examples, you can get them cheap!
I got G.Skill Flare X 3200 C14 since I'm building a Ryzen system and have had great results with it in the past. Essentially,any 3200 MHz RAM with timings of 14-14-14-34 will be B-die. There are other flavors that are clocked higher. Here's a partial list of other modules. I have read of recently released kits clocked in the 4000+ MHz range that are useful for the latest Ryzen CPUs. Hope this helps!
Thanks for the advice! I’m not familiar with b die RAM. Is there an option you’d recommend? Was able to find this with a google search, but not sure how it compares.
On your point about the 3600 vs. 3600x - are you suggesting I can get comparable performance for less by overclocking the less expensive processor?
Lastly for the b450 I’d read that there were compatibility issues with the 3600 series chips. Is this no longer an issue?
Thanks again!
I'd go with faster memory myself. Built a similar machine with a 2600x for a friends son with a £1200 budget and went with this stuff: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06XFT7DF9/?tag=pcp0f-21
Really good timings.
So I put 2x8 GB ram into an AMD 2600x system last year (motherboard is an ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC AM4, if that matters). Got G.Skill Flare X C14 B-die because at the time I read Ryzen likes the stuff. Link to the RAM
I do not overclock. So perhaps overkill, but that's what I have.
Anyway I want 16 GB more and am not sure what to get. Should I get something like post, more C14 b-die, so it's similar to what I have?
Comments here say Ryzen has gotten better (a BIOS thing, or newer chips?), and suggest instead C16 3200mhz like this: Team 2x8gb C16
Just not sure what I should do. I still don't plan to overclock, I would rather pay less than more, but don't want to "water down" my existing RAM. In other words, I wouldn't want to add C16 RAM and lose performance because maybe my system would step down to that lowest common denominator. I just don't know how mistmatched RAM works, though, hence the question.
Appreciate any insight here.
G.SKILL Flare X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) AMD X370 Memory Model F4-3200C14D-16GFX Pricey but seems to be working for people out of the box and if they don't, I'll just return and keep the Corsair.
I went with this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XFT7DF9/ref=od_aui_detailpages02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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It's pretty great so far. Had to change the frequency in the bios, however. Initially only read at 2400MHz.
This is a pretty solid build, but the only critique I have is of the RAM choice. Look specifically for DDR4 RAM with CL 14 (latency) and a frequency of around 2733. IIRC Ryzen chips have been shown to work best with lower CAS latency, since it lets them take full advantage of the Memory Fabric.
Here's an Amazon option: G.Skill Flare X 2x8 GB 3200 MHz CL14 RAM - $129.99
If you don't mind going to newegg: G.Skill Trident Z 2x8 GB 3200 MHz CL14 RAM - $124.99
They also can both be overclocked/tinkered with if you like, but they come out of the box with pretty good speed and timings.
Not sure if it will be useful to you since I have a Crosshair VI Hero, but I use 4 sticks of Flare X (F4-3200C14-8GFX) at 3333 MHz. Again, I use them in a Crosshair VI Hero.
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Title: [EU-DE][H] Ryzen1700/Vega 64 Build + Peripherals [W] Local Cash
Username: /u/Cavanus
Original Post:
Want to sell my PC as I don't use it anymore. Local pickup in Munich is absolutely preferred as all this would be expensive to ship even domestic and there is a likelihood of components being damaged. Also much prefer to sell everything at once, but you are free to PM offers for individual components, nonetheless I'll wait a bit first. Asking price is 1300 for everything, negotiable to a small extent, looking for a quick sale.
If I'm missing anything or you have any questions, let me know.
Images: https://imgur.com/a/tiK30JX
You can have the mousepad in the picture as well, not much point in listing it below.
Specs are-
Motherboard: Biostar X370GTN
Memory: 2x8GB G Skill F4 3200C14
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B06XFT7DF9/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
GPU: XFX Vega 64 Reference
CPU: AMD Ryzen 1700
PSU: Corsair RM650x
Storage: Samsung EVO 960 NVMe 500GB Boot + EVO 850 250GB additional
Case: Fractal Define Nano S windowed + 2x Noctua NF-P14 1500RPM PWM fans running on a Noctua splitter so all 3 fans are PWM and running a preset in the bios.
OS: Windows 10 Home 64 Bit(Yes I paid full price for Windows)
Keyboard: Logitech G613 wireless mechanical US Intl Layout
Mouse: Logitech G700S
Monitor: Acer XF240H 144Hz Freesync enabled
Wireless: Generic USB Wifi + Bluetooth adapters
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B06WWHH29Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01N0368AY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
DISCLAIMER: I have mined ETH with this PC for around a month in total, under a week continuous. Card was HEAVILY underclocked staying at a consistent 70C with fan speed under 1600RPM. Other than the month it mined in total, the pc has been barely used, just a handful of times for games. I no longer have the screenshot of the settings it ran at, but I have the configuration so if you want to know I can check again.
CPU has been running stock for most of the time, currently it's at 3.7 locked on all cores in the bios with no changes to voltage. I haven't tried really overclocking as it's on the stock cooler. Memory has always been running at 3200Mhz and Cas 14, have not tried tinkering with it either.
I have the original receipts, boxes and documentation for almost everything, currently do not have the box or spare cables for the PSU, but I can have my old roommate send them to me.
The main components were all bought within 2017, none have been registered for warranty. Keyboard is a few months old, Monitor was bought in early 2017, the Mouse is the oldest of everything at about 4 years or so, but it still functions as is, you can replace the battery if you want since it's just a single double A.
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Go to come with admin rights. Type "wmic memorychip get speed" and it will tell you your ram speed. I have the 8SE which was 2666. I believe yours is the same. I just upgraded my msi and added this stick of ram. Worked perfectly https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071KP8CGJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_6PqhDb7Q5V366
I don't have that game, so I can't do that exact benchmark. I've heard that pretty much across the board that with Intel cpu and RTX card combo (not just with Asus laptop), dual channel RAM gives a 10-15% increase in performance.
Here's the ram I got: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071KP8CGJ/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_U_x_WSNmDbJQCB4HE
I bought this kit: Crucial 16GB Single DDR4 2666 MT/s (PC4-21300) DR X8 SODIMM 260-Pin Memory - CT16G4SFD8266 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071KP8CGJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_RR7DDb73RJHH2. Plenty of recent reviews saying that it works with this laptop.
this one worked for me
Okay great! This all makes sense. You're a godsend.
Does it sound like a wise decision to go with the P52 and add 16GB of RAM myself (https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B071KP8CGJ?ascsubtag=UUwpUdUnU63873YYwYg&linkCode=gs2&tag=androidcent08-20&th=1)?
That way the total cost stays within the sub-$2000CAD range which is definitely a lot less daunting wallet-wise. Can't quite justify a $3000 (or potentially even a $2700) laptop to myself yet unfortunately!
One last question: is the P2000 + i7-8850H card worth the $300 jump from the P1000 i7-8750H card?(and as a curious follow-up: is the T1000 card + i7-9750H worth the $500 jump from the P2000?) I'm assuming this is a case-to-case thing (and more expensive is generally better), but I'm having a hard time imagining the cost-benefit ratio, and any thoughts would be much appreciated!
I'm pretty sure warranty becomes void once memory that's not expressely marked compatible is used. I also don't know if they'd be able to tell if you just put the old memory back in.I think it's a complete waste of money to use their memory and would suggest getting DDR4 2666 260 pin memory from a cheaper retailer. The linked crucial memory is said to be compatible.EDIT: Thank you /u/mauxfaux! Apparently using unsupported memory does not void Synology warranty.
I'd probably recommend getting an Intel NUC8i7HNK or if you can afford the extra, the Intel NUC8i7HVK if you truly want something in the same size range as a Mac Mini.
Intel NUC8i7HNK @ $998.17 or Intel NUC8i7HVK @ $1153.35
Crucial 16GB DDR4-2666 SODIMM @ $173.00
Crucial 500GB MX500 M.2 SATA SSD @ $108.99
Total : $1280.16 for the NUC8i7HNK, $1435.34 for the NUC8i7HVK.
The Mac Mini has a volume of 1.38L, the Intel NUCs have a volume of 1.22L (technically smaller than a Mac Mini). If you take the other suggestions here, the In-Win Chopin has a volume of 4.45L^1, the Silverstone SG13 has a volume of 11.45L, the Raijintek Metis Plus has a volume of 13.37L, and the Raijintek Ophion EVO has a volume of 18.92L. It should also be noted that the In-Win Chopin cannot take a GPU, as it has no space for any PCIe cards.
None, did the upgrade december last year.
Crucial ram used.
More info:
Ram info
Ram SPD
Stock ram
Crucial. It's a good company and one of the few 16 gb 2666. Crucial 16GB Single DDR4 2666. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071KP8CGJ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
If you're at all handy, it's really easy to do the upgrades yourself. Here's a YouTube video showing how. The video is for last year's 9570 model, but the upgrade process is identical. Skip the WiFi chip upgrade unless you have specific problems (rare) that can't be resolved with the process I linked above (exceedingly rare).
You have a ton of options for RAM and SSD - so many that it can be quite overwhelming. You have to be careful to get compatible memory, whereas basically any SSD that fits will work. Performance will be roughly the same across RAM kits, but the SSD has more of a performance range. I'll link some examples. Since your link is for Dell Canada, I'll just use Amazon Canada for examples because I know it works.
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Before you pick upgrades
If you can get the screen, processor, battery, and discrete graphics card you want simultaneously, start with 8 GB RAM and a 256 GB SSD and upgrade both aftermarket (go straight for 1 TB on the SSD upgrade). If you can't drop lower than a 512 GB SSD to get right screen/processor/battery/dGPU combination, instead go with the 512 GB SSD and keep that initially unless you know you need 1 TB. You can upgrade later, although it is a little tricky logistically - if you'd prefer to save yourself the potential hassle, upgrading to aftermarket 1 TB immediately is defensible.
Consider starting with 8 or 16 GB of RAM and, if the option is available for the rest of the config you want, a 512 GB SSD. If you get a model with 8 GB RAM, you can pull out the 2x4 GB sticks and put in a single 16 GB stick instead. If you decide you need 32 GB later, you can pop in a second identical 16 GB stick. (Two modules is technically faster than one, but the performance difference is negligible. Don't worry about it.) If the screen/processor/battery/GPU you want only come on a model with 16 GB RAM, just start with that and buy an upgrade later if you need more elbow room. Very few people need 32 GB - an example of that use case is if you're running multiple virtual machines simultaneously and have to have them locally rather than spinning up just what you need in The Cloud.
Similarly, though not to as great an extent, 1 TB is a lot of disk space. Do you need that much? If you don't have hundreds of gigabytes of media you want to store locally or keep >2 AAA games installed simultaneously, you're probably fine with 512 GB. Again, you can always upgrade later, although the logistics are trickier if you want to save all your old data.
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Memory
Crucial is a solid choice. Crucial's website has a nice compatibility picker for the XPS 15 7590, but since they don't handle Canadian customs for you, here's an Amazon CA link (32 GB selected, but you can pick 1x16 instead of 2x16).
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SSD
You need an m.2 2280 NVMe SSD. Nearly any SSD fitting those parameters will work. If you're going to aftermarket-upgrade the SSD, go straight for 1 TB (or more if you really need more). I have heard very good things about the Silicon Power P34A80 (review, purchase) and the Adata XPG SX8200 Pro (review, purchase). Note that the SX8200 Pro is double-sided, but it has been reported to fit and work just fine in an XPS 9570 and so should work in a 7590 as well.
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Display
You didn't ask about this, but since you're going to save a bunch of money on the RAM and SSD, consider whether your use case merits treating yourself to a 4K display for a fair chunk of the cost you just saved :-P
If you need >10 hours of battery runtime, skip 4K. Otherwise it's really nice. Text is amazingly crisp, which I have found lets me run at 175% display scaling and still read comfortably. (Windows 10 default is 125% for 1080p and 250% for 4K). There are a small number of applications that don't do well with UI scaling, which makes 4K a less-than-great choice for those, but you can always drop back to 1080p just while using those applications if you really have to. It'll look pretty good because 4K is an exact multiplier of 1080p.
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Base Models
I'm not listing prices because they change too frequently. Just check the links.
i bought this one
Crucial CT16G4SFD8266 16 GB (DDR4, 2666 MT/s, PC4-21300, Dual Rank x8, SODIMM, 260-Pin) Memory https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B071KP8CGJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_3fd8D6El8wAdg
The max RAM for the laptop is 32GB. There are two slots that hold 16 GB of RAM each. Get two sticks of 16 GB DDR4 2666 SO-Dimm RAM. You could get two of these from Amazon.
these are compatible 1 stick ram of 2666Hz, it is fine to put rams from different brands as long as they are both ddr4, same voltage
1.https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B071KP8CGJ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1
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2. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XC44MJN/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1
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3.https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07BBQG6FR/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=A3P98T83Q2GFN1&psc=1
and they are cheaper than G.skill.
Hi, I have a gs65 2060 rtx from best buy that came with the only 1 stick of 16gb ram. I bought this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071KP8CGJ You likely have the same model I got a few months ago
and it made my games go up by like 20 fps, huge upgrade. No you don't void warranty by performing hardware swaps. But if you break anything while doing so that's a different story. Be sure to register your laptop if you can (there's a 30day deadline) with MSI for their free 1 yr accident plan coverage.
Since I've done the upgrade myself, it's not difficult, it's a just a bit tedious cause you have to open/close tiny latches holding onto tiny ribbons cables. Here's a video explaining: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rehA0elife4 They explain it very well. Only difference you'll see with the Best buy model we have is that there's a plastic shield around CPU. Here is a few pics I took to repaste it if you're wondering what it looks like under that heatsink: https://imgur.com/a/ilTcLKk
You don't need any special tools besides a screwdriver. (Don't be the guy who buys the 20$ computer repair 10-tool kit just for adding ram and a ssd[tho nice to have]) It's going to take you like 20 minutes first time because if you've never done it you're going to be very careful. If you're wondering about the SSD brand, mine was a blue Kingston 512gb
I don't know if you have considered this, but instead of trying different RAM sticks that may not be supported in your G3, install HWInfo and check which RAM stick you already have. Then, buy the same brand and model. That might save you some bucks.
If not, I heard that Crucial is supported on the G-series. Check on Amazon. I have a G5, so I cannot confirm this
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071KP8CGJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
After installing this the difference in Apex Legends is night and day for me.
So my story might help someone.
I ordered a 16GB Crucial as secondary RAM and had the same problem as the OP. Black screen, computer always on, if I turn it off it immediately reboots.
I processed a refund through Amazon and in the meantime started reading more stories of people getting the recommended RAM, STILL having this problem, but not giving up because it was the recommended RAM and eventually it just started working.
So I thought, well, that might be the key. You just have to get lucky at the initial boot. Once the laptop ran out of power so I could safely unplug the RAM, I reseated it and put it right back in. Plugged it in...and it worked.
I'm starting to doubt Gigabyte's suggested RAM list. Rather I think those sticks worked for them first try, and some others didn't so they tossed them out.
If you've got RAM that didn't work, don't give up. Let the computer die, then reseat the RAM and try again. And again. And a few more times.
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er, I just bought the same RAM from Amazon (UK https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B071KP8CGJ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) and it doesn't work. Turns on, fans come on for a second, then they turn off slowly. Keyboards lights up, and goes down immediately. Beware fellow X1E owners.
Check the review on
https://www.amazon.ca/Crucial-Single-PC4-21300-SODIMM-260-Pin/product-reviews/B071KP8CGJ/ref=dpx_acr_txt?showViewpoints=1
I added a 16GB stick of Crucial 2666 DDR4. It runs at 2400 like the RAM that came with the laptop.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071KP8CGJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Notice a really nice uplift in metro exodus. I wish more reviewers would talk about single vs dual channel ram in modern games.
Black / 3200. Corsair CMK16GX4M2Z3200C16... https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B072LX99L9?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-PC4-17000-Unbuffered-288-Pin-CT8G4DFD8213/dp/B00MMLUYVU
You don't need 600W for the power supply with those specs. Instead of that DDR3 RAM you could get DDR4 for 6 euro less. :) https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Unbuffered-288-Pin-Desktop-CT8G4DFD8213/dp/B00MMLUYVU
Why is the ram you selected cheaper than this ram?
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Single-PC4-17000-Unbuffered-288-Pin/dp/B00MMLUYVU
I want to upgrade as well and this is the ram i got for 50 dollars less than a year ago.
Salve,
sto cercando di mettere insieme un pc da gaming economico intorno ai 400-500 euro.
Ho fatto una lista su amazon dei componenti che vorrei prendere:
E' una buona build? Al momento il totale e' intorno ai 480 euro. Vorrei cercare di avvicinarmi il piu' possibile ai 400. Cosa mi suggerite? Meglio altri componenti? Conoscete trucchi per ottenere i pezzi a prezzo piu' basso?
This is what I currently have
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00MMLUYVU/?tag=pcp0f-20
I have one 3tb WD red HDD and plan on getting another and putting in raid 1 with an additional raid controller as 3tb is enough for what I need to store. I would like to play with Virtualization and set up a few servers on it. I have a few security cameras that need something to record to and will also use it as a plex server. I am fine with getting additional RAM too but want to make sure I get the right kind. Should I get ECC ram or something like this?
https://www.ebay.com/p/245236870?iid=113932133373&rt=nc
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MMLUYVU?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
USED
Or grab new dual-channel RAM.
Any reason I shouldn't buy this RAM?: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00MMLUYVU/?tag=pcp0f-21
I'm not sure about RAM, should I be spending more on it?
All good then.
I would get the cheaper ram here though
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00MMLUYVU
Can I use a stick of dual rank ram and a stick of single rank ram?
I already have an 8gb stick and just picked up another stick online in a deal only to realise the additional one is dual rank and the existing one is single.
I have a gigabyte h110m s-2h motherboard.
Ram in question
Crucial 8 GB Single Ranked DDR4 2133 MT/s (PC4-17000) DIMM 288-Pin Memory https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01BIWLFGQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_ZAjlyb4T9848H
Crucial 8 GB DDR4 2133 MT/s (PC4-17000) DIMM 288-Pin Memory https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00MMLUYVU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_xBjlybP3MC4DA
There's pretty good deal on ram in amazon uk: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00MMLUYVU/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3L9K7KBU0FMI3&coliid=I10HFE550G89U2&psc=1
Almost 50% off
/u/Logicsss
Thanks so much! I have found ram that is labeled "UDIMM" or "Unbuffered-DIMM". Do you by chance know if UDIMM and DIMM are interchangable, or if it must specifically be "DIMM"?
Also, i'd appreciate any insight into the difference between UDIMM and DIMM
example of UDIMM: https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Unbuffered-288-Pin-Desktop-CT8G4DFD8213/dp/B00MMLUYVU/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1479487250&sr=8-3&keywords=crucial+ddr4+2133+dimm
Well this is the first computer I'm building and I accidentally bought two different types of memory and I didn't want to return them if I didn't have to. Would these two work well together or is it better to just have one faster memory. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00MMLUYVU/ref=ya_st_dp_summary
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0198QDLXO/ref=ya_st_dp_summary
I bought this RAM here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MMLUYVU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Ok, so all from Amazon, shipping to Australia. There are a few things that are more expensive, I will get those locally. I upgraded to an i5 6600k.
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5 6600K 3.50 GHz | $298.00
CPU Cooler|Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO |$38.88
Motherboard | ASRock Motherboard Micro ATX DDR4 LGA 1151 H110M-HDS | $64.00
Memory | Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory | $64.00
Storage | Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $98.00
Storage | WD Blue 1TB SATA 6 Gb/s 7200 RPM | $68.00
Video Card | MSI GAMING Radeon RX 480 GDDR5 4GB | $272.00 (-$27 rebate)
Case | DeepCool TX Mid Tower TESSERACT SW | $61.00
Power Supply | EVGA 500 B1, 80+ BRONZE 500W | $66.72
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| Total | $1029
Now, I have a few questions.
So as I said I'm reliant on what models of the RX 480 the electronics chain I got the vouchers for has available. It's gonna be the Sapphire Nitro+ OC for ~€280.
As for RAM: I've looked around a bit on pcpartpicker. What's the difference between the RAM you linked (https://www.amazon.de/Ballistix-Sport-PC4-19200-288-Pin-Memory/dp/B0198QDLXO?th=1) and these: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/4CyxFT/crucial-memory-bls8g4d240fsb
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/BQ3RsY/crucial-memory-bls8g4d240fsa
Apparently the only difference between Sport and Sport LT is the design?! (http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/memory-ballistix-sport)
But the non-LT is the most expensive of them all? Are there any notable differences on the technical side of things and which of those 3 should I get?
Edit: The one you linked Amazon has in 3 colors, grey is €5 cheaper than white and red is the same as grey but not available at the moment (https://www.amazon.de/Ballistix-Single-PC4-19200-288-Pin-Memory/dp/B00UFBZOVE/ref=sr_1_6?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1484928085&sr=1-6).
Socket is important for the CPU an 4th Gen i7 for example uses LGA1150 Sockets, i7 7th Gen uses LGA 1151 Sockets, it's basically the part that holds the CPU in place and connects it with the mobo and defines what kind of CPU you can use. So most likely you'd have to also upgrade your mobo and RAM if you upgrade your CPU.
You could get an Asus Z170-P (100$), an i5-7600K (235$) and 8GB Balistix DDR4 2400mhz (60$) totaling to 395$ excluding shipping. As GPU you could get any GTX 1070 (~400$). I can't recommend you any AMD GPUs as I'm not up to date on them. Of course you could get a GTX 1060 and save ~200$ and invest them in an i7 or just save the 200$ if you don't need an 1070s performance. That all depends on your needs and you might want to ask again tomorrow as there might be some better options or maybe cheaper options that I'm not aware of.
Edit: moved two words. Oops.
The first link isn't working it is this ram
What is the difference in Crucial Ballistix Sport LT Ram?
Ie:
This vs This
Update parts list per your specifications:
Motherboard
RAM
case
HDD
G4400
That puts me right on budget. :)
Not sure honestly, I based my price off of the price on Amazon and didn't put much thought into it.
https://www.amazon.com/Ballistix-Sport-Single-PC4-19200-288-Pin/dp/B00UFBZOVE
That is a concern I have yeah. I bought this motherboard here. I was gonna get ram at 2133 MHz because I guess that's what my motherboard limits but if I were to buy this ram it would be completely fine?
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/qNDqsZ
No need for a board that expensive.
Too many fans lol. Shouldn't need more than two.
Better PSU, better SSD.
If you want more RGB go for RGB RAM and an RGB cooler instead.
Also these RAMs are cheap right now (probably not for long). 134 for 16 gb.
Took out the GPU, the prices are really bad reference right now.
Edit:
Also 8600k is quite expensive (because of the extra cooler and expensive board)
Here's a R5 1600 build for reference https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/ it's almost 200 dollars cheaper.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UFBZOVE/?tag=pcpapi-20
is this ram okay? It makes the build cheaper.
The main thing I would change is the dual stick 8GB memory kit try to find a single 8GB stick for a similar price and a more open upgrade path (I found this even shaves off the price a bit.)
However you could shave off some cash and go for the Ryzen 1500x (or even the 1400) for very similar performance. With a similar mobo like this ASrock one. This switch is purely cost saving as the ryzen chips cost sightly less than the i5 but in this case don't offer more cores (which is usually the case in higher end match ups like the 1700 and 7700k.)
EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB FTW+ GAMING ACX 3.0, 6GB GDDR5, LED, DX12 OSD Support (PXOC) Graphics Card 06G-P4-6368-KR https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LSLRTFI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_SDRMX3UIXdAxI
Ballistix Sport LT 8GB Single DDR4 2400 MT/s (PC4-19200) DIMM 288-Pin - BLS8G4D240FSB (Gray) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UFBZOVE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_7iVYhj11fa5km
Intel Boxed Core I5-6600 FC-LGA14C 3.30 Ghz 6 M Processor Cache 4 LGA 1151 BX80662I56600 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0136JONRM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_4YyzHKmo6KA6q
Crucial MX300 275GB SATA 2.5 Inch Internal Solid State Drive - CT275MX300SSD1 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IAGSD5O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_6RMoIJiv9q4l7
Gigabyte LGA1151 Intel H110 Micro ATX DDR4 Motherboard GA-H110M-A https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0165YUDTM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_d83VQlljPJlrV
EVGA 500 W1, 80+ WHITE 500W, 3 Year Warranty, Power Supply 100-W1-0500-KR https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H33SFJU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_QRdZZpho4Ez8z
Thermaltake VERSA H15 Micro ATX Mini Tower Gaming Computer Case https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CLIZ698/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_d4qde2QmPEKHo
I have a 8GB stick of Crucial Ballistix 2400MHz - This one:
https://www.amazon.com/Ballistix-Sport-Single-PC4-19200-288-Pin/dp/B00UFBZOVE/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1497925617&sr=1-5&keywords=8gb+ddr4
It's essentially brand new. Used once to make sure it was working and put back in packaging. $50 shipped.
2 sticks of https://www.amazon.com/Ballistix-Sport-Single-PC4-19200-288-Pin/dp/B00UFBZOVE
Ok thanks ✓, this ram should work right? It says the clock speed is at 2400 so I'm guessing it should work but i just want to make absolutely sure before I get everything
https://www.amazon.com/BenQ-GL2460HM-24-Inch-1920x1080-Response/dp/B00IKDFL4O
http://www.microcenter.com/product/478701/AXRX_Radeon_RX-580_Red_Devil_Overclocked_8GB_GDDR5_Video_Card
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16823129044
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-BRONZE-Supply-Warranty-100-B1-0500-KR/dp/B00DZ6R9GE
https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Versa-Computer-Chassis-CA-1D4-00S1NN-00/dp/B01CLIZ698
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0088PUEPK/?tag=pcpapi-20
https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digital-120GB-SA400S37-120G/dp/B01N6JQS8C
https://www.amazon.com/Ballistix-Sport-Single-PC4-19200-288-Pin/dp/B00UFBZOVE
http://www.microcenter.com/product/474115/ga-b250m-ds3h_lga_1151_matx_intel_motherboard
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1304308-REG/intel_bx80677g4560_pentium_g4560_3_5_ghz.html
Will this DDR3 be compatible with my DDR4?
Ballistix Sport LT 8GB https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UFBZOVE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_slgpybTAM0FGG
Edit: I think in just going to get this one, https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16820233771&branch_used=true
I got 1x8 stick of DDR4 ram - 50$ shipped
It has all those colors. =D
i have 2 4 gb ram stick http://imgur.com/gallery/zCzNV
can i mixes this 8 gb with it? https://www.amazon.com/Ballistix-Sport-Single-PC4-19200-288-Pin/dp/B00UFBZOVE?th=1
this is my MB
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Performance-Gaming-Z170A-Motherboard/dp/B0131GA5EU
ty in advance!
I used Ballistix Sport LT 8GB Single DDR4 2400 MT/s (PC4-19200) DIMM 288-Pin - BLS8G4D240FSB (Gray) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UFBZOVE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_9QYOAbEKY5F8F
Which are similar sticks as far i know. The XMP profile 1 loads with no problems. I think you’d be fine
https://www.amazon.ca/Ballistix-Sport-Single-PC4-19200-288-Pin/dp/B00UFBZOVE/
There's a bit of a shipping delay on these, but as far as I know Amazon has done a good job restocking this brand of memory.
> So I had a couple questions, is the i5 8400 going to be solid for CSGO? I'm pretty sure CSGO only uses 1 core in the game but there might be an option within the game that lets you use multiple, just curious is that going to drag down my FPS a lot or should I be getting around 200-300 fps easy with pretty much low settings on the game?
Yes, CS:GO tends to run better on Intel CPUs.
> Also two other main questions, would there be a problem if I used my other storage from my old PC that I'm using currently? Basically wanna just swap my 1TB storage from 1 computer to this build and I'd be fine having the same settings and personal stuff transferred, but if it's a hassle to transfer I'd be fine if I just skipped the process, and it would be the same exact storage that I'd buy anyways on my new build.
Unless the OS is installing on this HDD you shouldn't have a problem.
>The last question is could I use my RAM on my new build as well? I'll want to buy another stick of 8GB though so I'm wondering if there will be any compatible issues or anything using two different types of RAM or maybe just buy another 8GB stick because it'd be cheaper then just buying two more in general. The link to the stick I wanna use is: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UFBZOVE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
It will probably work but i have seen some compatibility issues.
I am asking because I got this one like a year ago:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00UFBZOVE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&th=1
Now it is kinda pricy compared to other 8GB sticks so I really dont know whats special about it.
Shouldnt every componanet have a rated power usage? As I havent overclocked anything I guess each part is using the exact same amount as an equal make part
://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00UFBZOVE/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1495815441&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=crucial+ballistix+sport+8gb&dpPl=1&dpID=4151VrMYOmL&ref=plSrch. Will this be compatible with the gigabyte b250m-ds3h motherboard will there be any problems with it
Is there any other suggested GPUs for this build? Preferably in the $100-$140 range. The RAM is out of stock, so I went with This one for 8GB instead. (I really hope it was a good idea to switch to this one).
Building this PC for my Fiancé for her birthday!
I mean this : https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00UFBZOVE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&psc=1 It's a 1x8GB but its dual. No idea what it means ( it's my another PC account )
Can someone help me out here? I have one 8GB DDR4 2400MHz Ram and would like to use a second channel to improve performance for some games and programming runtimes.
Will I have any issues using [2x 4GB 2400 MHz](https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?
Item=N82E16820231962&ignorebbr=1) installed along with it?
I have a Z170 board
Would this ram work with Ryzen cpus?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UFBZOVE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Not sure about timing but these are the links for the parts:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XJ9LMRQ?tag=amz-mkt-chr-us-20&ascsubtag=1ba00-01000-org00-win10-other-nomod-us000-pcomp-feature-pcomp-wm-3&ref=aa_pcomp_spk1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0123ZC44Y/ref=twister_B01M33CGCY?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231892&cm_re=G_skill_ddr4_2666-_-20-231-892-_-Product
Thank you.
Hey, man. Alrighty. So, a couple of things here....
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I hope that helps. Thanks and have a good one.
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Chris
I'm assuming you will be playing at 1080P?
If that is the case, you will have no issues at all running D2 at 60+ fps. If you tweak a few settings you could probably push fps more in the range of 80-100.
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If the 8gb of memory really bothers you, you can always just buy a 16gb kit.
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2666MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0123ZC44Y
From what I read about the system you are looking at, the max speed the motherboard supports is 2666mhz.
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But yeah, hope you enjoy the switch to PC. Once i jumped over, i never looked back!
I am running Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4 at 2666 MHz. The timing is C16. I posted the amazon link.
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2666MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0123ZC44Y
hey men, i'm placing the order now but it seems the RAM is out of stock and no delivery date available, can i switch for this model :
Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2A2666C16 Stores (2666 MHz, 2 x 8GB) Black
https://www.amazon.de/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2A2666C16-Vengeance-Desktop-Arbeitsspeicher/dp/B0123ZC44Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1512040522&sr=1-1&keywords=ddr4+2666+16gb
Thanks for the input! Already have the research going and I think I'm going to attempt this DIY build! My friend still has all the other parts in his laptop, he upgraded his motherboard to one with a GTX 1070 and gave me the old one with the GTX 1060.
I think I can build an adequate desktop for around $650 based on the following parts and prices I found:
Heat Sink/Fan Assembly: $50 https://www.parts-people.com/index.php?action=item&id=24584
Power Button Cricuit Board: $15 https://www.parts-people.com/index.php?action=item&id=25014#video
DC Power Jack Cable: $13 https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-DC-Power-Jack-In-Cable-for-Dell-Alienware-17-R2-R3-P43F-T8DK8-DC30100TO00/371650335971?rt=nc&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41451%26meid%3D181e940c80a24d109a2918f307744ffb%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D282574581355&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
Dual Wifi Antennas: $2 https://www.ebay.com/p/US-Universal-Internal-Antenna-for-Wireless-WiFi-Mini-PCI-Pci-e-Laptop-Computer/1348581337?iid=191583624395
180W Power Adapter: $70 https://www.amazon.com/BAY-Direct-74X5J-JVF3V-DA180PM111/dp/B0768F9T3J/ref=sr_1_30_sspa?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1510619852&sr=1-30-spons&keywords=alienware+15&psc=1
Corsair Vengeance 16 GB RAM: $180 https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0123ZC44Y?th=1
Samsung EVO 500 GB m.2 SATA SSD: $250 https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-960-EVO-Internal-MZ-V6E500BW/dp/B01M20VBU7
Intel 7265 WLAN Card: $25 https://www.amazon.ca/Intel-Network-7265-NGWG-W-WIRELESS-AC-Bluetooth/dp/B00RCZ4I6S/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_147_bs_lp_tr_t_1/130-6825905-9627626?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=PMR6Q6H6XC654K801J6B
DIY Acrylic Casing: TBD
With a cheap custom acrylic casing for all these components, I think this may be an adequate and cost effective build!
Thanks, that's exactly what I needed... oddly enough, the German Page does not provide that PDF.
Anyway, went for this one: Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2A2666C16 2x8GB Kit @2666MHz
Was the best budget version I found that supports the full 2666
Took the extra Bucks to go for 16 instead of 8 GB, I think it's worth it
Okay thanks for the advice! ill definitly look into the suggestions and make a decision, also wouldn't this ram be better for the build? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2A2666C16-Vengeance-2666Mhz-Performance/dp/B0123ZC44Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473700038&sr=8-1&keywords=2666+ram
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2666MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0123ZC44Y
https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-Vengeance-2x8GB-2666MHz-Memory/dp/B0123ZC44Y/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1539272515&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=2666%2Bram&dpPl=1&dpID=41tW6Kpw1xL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1
This says it has automatic overclock with xmp 2.0, would that rise above 2800 or is it locked at 2666
It seems to be in line with other prices for that speed, although if your buying it used then thats not a good price.
Heres some results from amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2666MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0123ZC44Y
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XNPT8J9/ref=psdcmw_172500_t1_B0123ZC44Y
So here's what I would recommend ditch your motherboard and CPU buy a Ryzen 5 2600x. For the motherboard get a ASRock Atx Motherboard B450 Pro4 its out of stock on amazon at the moment but it will be in stock again on the 24th you could also order it from newegg. Your current CPU cooler should have come with a AMD AM4 mount but if you don't have it the CPU does come with a decent cooler and you won't really need to overclock it so it should work fine, You could also buy a mounting kit for AMD CPU's from Corsair. Next on the list would be a video card otherwise the new CPU would be bottle necked so I think you should get a ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1060 AMP Edition, New it costs $279.99 but you can buy a used one off amazon for $206.24 either way you should have some money left $606.59 if you go with new and $532.84 if you go with used. After that you'll want some new ram so I would recommend the Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB(2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2666MHz, If you went with the new video card that will put you at $716.58 if you went with the used video card that will put you at $642.83. Just in case you don't know this your old ram won't work in a ddr4 slot so don't try and force it in. In any case if you went with the used video card or you don't mind spending a little over budget I would next get a ssd my recommendation would be the Intel SSD 760P Series 256GB M.2 80MM PCIe 3.0 X4 That with the used video card will bring the total up to $715.82 with the new video card it would be $789.57. Anyways I hope that helps a little bit.
I do recommend Corsair Vengeance LPX as far as cheaper end, while still reliable, DDR4. (If you can't find a good deal here, ofc.)
I'm probably going to just get a new CPU, motherboard and RAM because it seems like a better idea in the long run than to just limit myself to what my current board can utilize and my RAM could definitely be better anyways, so meh why not. Thanks again though, I appreciate it. :)
I'm currently thinking about this:
What do you think? I think it's pretty good.
> F4-2666C15D-8GVR
Not listed according to the QVL. I used CTRL + F to make it easier to find it. Looks like your RAM is indeed incompatible. You have to get another model of RAM such as this Corsair Vengeance 2666MHz RAM.
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3200MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0123ZC44Y?th=1
Note that even though it has different frequency models by the same company, it looks like it won't support anything higher than 2666MHz. Be cautious of that.
not particularly great.
good ram https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0123ZC44Y/?tag=pcpapi-20
premium ram https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HKF3T8C/?tag=pcpapi-20
whether or not you should bother with premium depends what CPU you have. your K/X CPUs will take advantage of the faster speed.
edit: nm, get that ripjaw ram on sale posted above. better and cheaper.
So this would be good Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2666MHz (PC4 21300) C16 Desktop Memory Kit - Black (CMK16GX4M2A2666C16) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0123ZC44Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_7lMQDbP7REDEQ
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0123ZC44Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Is this motherboard compatible with this RAM
http://www.pc-store.fi/msi-z170-a-pro-lga1151-z170/cat-p/c/p8338018
It says that this motherboard is compatible with : 2133,2400,2600,2800,3000,3200 MHz and my RAM is 2666 MHz.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0123ZC44Y/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Sorry should have probably provided links.
Chasse:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00YJJBFIO/ref=ox_sc_act_image_8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Cpu:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B012M8LXQW/ref=ox_sc_act_image_7?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Motherboard:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0126R4F8W/ref=ox_sc_act_image_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
RAM:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0123ZC44Y/ref=ox_sc_act_image_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
CPU COOLER:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00VB3Y89E/ref=ox_sc_act_image_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AHG2MI785YUY7
Graphics card:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01JNUO6BG/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
And finally the power supply:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00K85X2A2/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
I know it looks like crap, but I don't know how to hyper link.
Ah gotcha. Maybe make these changes to save some money and have a little left over for a better monitor? These parts are comparable and form personal experience, work great. Motherboard and RAM. The RGB from the fans might be enough to make your build look how you want without the RGB RAM so there's a way to save some money. I think it's a small aesthetic sacrifice to pay for a monitor on which your games will play and look better. I bet you can also save a few bucks on a PSU that's in the 650W range. There are also these RGB fans that are slightly cheaper but do the job just as well. Just a thought but the build looks great either way. Good luck.
I could be wrong but you should be able to run it faster with the older BIOS. Im running Corsair 2666Mhz RAM (this one) and with the newest BIOS it won't go above 2133, but when I downgrade it allows me to enable XMP from the BIOS which makes the RAM run at full speed.
So I have a question then. I'm also looking at the Corsair LPX 2666Hz 16Gb (link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0123ZC44Y/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496180762&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=CMK16GX4M2B3200C16&dpPl=1&dpID=410ZIrDj5cL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1).
So with the Agesa update, or even with the future updates/patches for ryzen, would this 2666Hz be able to go up to 3200Hz (when OC'ed further of course)?
The 3200Hz is CAD $169, and the 2666Hz is CAD $149 btw.
Swapped the ram for this set instead. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0123ZC44Y/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
Saw this deal and got curious about my build last year for RAM speed. Found out one of my sticks is done. And single sticks aren't available for this brand and speed. Always ran stock.
I guess I know what early Christmas present I'm getting myself this year.
I paid £191.97 on the 28th of February 2017 for 32GB (2x16GB) of Corsair Vengeance DDR4-3200 from Amazon.co.uk
Today the same set is £365.71
oof!
Scan, although Amazon has them too.
[Edit] Well, Amazon appears to have them on pre-order, but trust me, they do exist. They arrived and I installed them.
Here's another link from Amazon for slightly slower, but still 2 x16GB DIMMS.
Patriot: https://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Viper-3200MHz-Performance-Memory/dp/B07N3TXFFX/
Corsair: https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3200MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B016ORTNI2/ (Defaults to 16GB, but you can select 32GB there)
G.Skill: https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232413 (Was out of stock at Amazon)
Here is a comparison link of all three as well (The Patriot is for some reason astronomically priced at Newegg): https://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare?CompareItemList=9SIAG7R9RN4092%2C20%2D145%2D359%2C20%2D232%2D413
And no, RGB is not important, and I am still planning the build so none of the parts outside of a SSD have been purchased yet. Still have not even planned most other parts such as the motherboard or case.
Will this RAM work at 3200MHz with B450 TOMAHAWK & 2700X?
I want 32 GB (2 x 16GB) and am curious what everybody's opinion is on Corsair LPX 3200 MHz c16:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016ORTNI2/
Caught my eye since it has so many reviews on Amazon. Is that a good one to get?
Hello again, my trusted resident pc pal- Thanks for your help so far! Just got an annoying message from Amazon that my order for the Night Hawk memory I bought has been cancelled :/
Looking now to find a replacement DDR4 3200, 32GB (2x16GB), 288-pin part. Found this Corsair LPX and G.Skill Ripjaws V. Will either of these work just as well? Thoughts?
Is 32GB of RAM at 3200Mhz sufficient for making 3D games? Or are there higher specs that are recommended/lower specs that are enough? Currently I'm looking at these two options, so I'm hoping they're enough.
https://www.hyperxgaming.com/us/memory/predator-ddr4?partnum=HX432C16PB3K2/32
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-2x16GB-3200MHz-Memory-CMK32GX4M2B3200C16/dp/B016ORTNI2/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=ram+32gb+ddr4+3200mhz&qid=1559179330&s=gateway&sr=8-3
Case: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BQG4TM3/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
RAM 32gb 3200mhz:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016ORTNI2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
NVME: samsong 970 evo (x2) 1tb:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BN217QG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
PSU: corsair hx1000
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N5NWKHH/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
CPU: 9900k
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005404P9I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Motherboard: MSI Godlike
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144209&cm_re=msi_meg_godlike-_-13-144-209-_-Product
GPU: RTX 2080ti FE
And a bunch of water cooling parts. Dual pump, resevoir, cpu block, gpu block, petg pipes and fittings. Fans. Radiators.
For AMD, part list is mostly the same. Substitute mother board and cpu.
CPU:
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-Processor-Wraith-Cooler/dp/B07B428M7F/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1539560224&sr=1-1&keywords=2700x
Motherboard: x470 taichi ultimate
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157834
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-163301-Vengeance-Performance-Desktop/dp/B016ORTNI2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1550004680&sr=8-3&keywords=32GB+Corsair+Vengeance
I assume thats what he was on about, helluva discount ;)
Got it! So faster RAM would fix this? Since I am currently sitting at 22gb at 2133Mhz, would going to something like 32gb at 3200Mhz be enough? Also, is 32gb enough, or should I be pushing more towards 64gb? I feel like 128gb may be a bit of overkill.
The RAM I am looking at is this - Corsair LPX 32GB (2x16GB) 3200MHz C16 DDR4 DRAM Memory Kit, Black (CMK32GX4M2B3200C16) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016ORTNI2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_DLlJBb6DCHZJF
RAM: Cheaper ram Not gonna stop you though if you have a look preference but that price difference is fucking insane.
Storage: I personally would just get a 500gb Samsung PRO 960 M.2 SSD for boot and important programs and a Samsung EVO 850 1tb SSD for everything else. It's more economical.
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-2x16GB-3200MHz-Memory-CMK32GX4M2B3200C16/dp/B016ORTNI2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=corsair+vengeance+lpx+32gb&qid=1573079596&sprefix=vengence+lpx&sr=8-1
Link to ram #1
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-PC4-24000-Desktop-Memory/dp/B075H6Z2VV/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp?keywords=corsair+vengeance+lpx+32gb&pd_rd_i=B075H6Z2VV&pd_rd_r=8deaa2f8-1f36-4d03-acc6-ffade7e47b2e&pd_rd_w=w17Mn&pd_rd_wg=yN1UE&pf_rd_p=d006b618-5fac-44e6-850d-a0fdd19f7847&pf_rd_r=XHC878V0WAB9GJMN661F&qid=1573079667
Link to ram #2
I plan on doing gaming for the most part and video editing on the side.
I'm getting an i9-9900k or ks if the price drops Lol
And some sort of z390 board still deciding
And most likely an RX 5700 XT until the 3080(ti) drops next year
Thank you so much for the build. I have some questions:
Thank you sir :)
Should be this
I got lucky and got a sticks with Samsung memory. From what I read Samsung has the best possibility of running at rated speeds.
1600X or 1700?
Apparently ram is $400 which is completely absurd so I guess I'll need to wait a while. In August it was $300
I've already got 24gb of DDR3 so I'd like to upgrade the capacity if I do upgrade the computer.
Quad Channel or Dual channel with room to upgrade?
Sorry im a bit confused? So will the MEG x570 Ace fully support this RAM (based on its MHz)
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Link: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B016ORTNI2/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_2?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1
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It is the Corsair 163301 Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3200 MHz.
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Thanks
No problems at all I have four Corsair 3200 dimms (2 matched sets - with versions 5.29 and 5.32) and no issues at all - these are the ones that I use https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B016ORTNI2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 - absolutely no issues at all - I'm using an MSI MEG X570 ACE and a Ryzen 9 3900x.
Just went for 32GB of the corsair vengeance at 3200Mhz seeing as it the cheapest I've seen it in a long time. That'll be more than enough for me.
I ran CrystalDiskInfo and CrystalDiskMark to check that my SSD is not messing up, the info shows 100% health and the mark shows great results with a max temp of 49C.
So, I'm guessing RAM and SSD are in the clear. I'm running Prime95 to check the CPU. After that I'll try Cinebench and then Furmark to check the GPU.
I'm still afraid to open the start menu or the web browser because it might cause the pc to hang.
Edit:
This is a bit of a different question but I got this RAM: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B016ORTNI2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and it's running at 2133MHz on the BIOS, and HWiNFO shows it running at 1600MHz. I admit I didn't check it's compatibility with my motherboard, do you think that would be causing all these problems? If so what 2x16GB kit should I get to replace it?
Edit2:
I'm fairly certain it's the GPU now, I ran Cinebench CPU and it finished without a hitch, but the moment I tried to run OpenGL Cinebench stopped responding and the computer froze.
Is there any fix for the GPU or should I just return it and get another one?
Edit3:
I rebooted and ran Cinbench OpenGL and Furmark, they both passed :/
I'm really lost here, what could be the problem with my build?
Total was around $2200 when I got it all, it was during cyber Monday so it was all on sale.
Parts and Spec list:
> I'm not sure that I'm interested in overclocking as I don't really understand the reason to overclock.
It's getting more for your dollar. It's paying, say, $100 for a component and getting $140 worth of performance out of it. You can also overclock high end stuff to get even more out of that as well.
> ASRock OC Formula 170
It doesn't make sense to buy that motherboard (I actually have the same one) unless you're going to be overclocking. You're paying for functionality you're not going to use.
> G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-4000 Memory
If I were you, I'd get 32GB of DDR-3200 (like this, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016ORTNI2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) rather than 16GB of DDR-4000, given what you want to do with it.
> Samsung 960 Pro 1.0TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $629.99 @ B&H
Storage Samsung 960 Pro 2.0TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
Respectfully, I don't think it makes sense to buy two different capacities of 960. You can buy two identical ones and run them in RAID 0 for absolutely crazy performance -- that's what I'd do -- there's no reason to spend so much money on so much fast capacity, though. If you need large amounts of space, I'd buy a mechanical or hybrid drive and use the 1TB or 2TB Samsung 960 for the OS/games/etc.
> EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card
This is a great video card, but a single 1080 probably isn't going to run games at 4k with 60+ FPS for very long -- if one can even manage that. Make sure you look at reviews for the card, and it should show you what it'll do for modern games, and count on games' complexity increasing as time goes on.
> Also, the motherboard says this "3 x SATA Express 10Gb/s Connectors Support to be announced M2_1, SATA3_0, SATA3_1 and SATA_EXP0 share lanes. If either one of them is in use, the others will be disabled. M2_2, SATA3_2, SATA3_3 and SATA_EXP1 share lanes. If either one of them is in use, the others will be disabled. * M2_3, SATA3_4, SATA3_5 and SATA_EXP2 share lanes. If either one of them is in use, the others will be disabled."
If anyone could tell me in layman's terms what that means for me, I'd greatly appreciate it. As always, feel free to ask questions.
The chipset the MOBO you picked out, Z170, like any chipset, has a limited amount of bandwidth going from the MOBO to the CPU. It's an interface called DMI, and it only has so many "lanes." While M.2 drives (like your Samsung 960) are in use, it seals away the SATA ports for other things you might need to hook up to the motherboard, like a Blu-ray drive, or another non-M.2 SSD, etc. Your motherboard, though, comes with a non-Intel controller that you can also plug SATA connections into, that aren't very good for hard drives, but would be totally fine for an optical drive or other small thing.
I have a very similar build to what you've laid out - same CPU, same motherboard, same video card, etc -- my case is the NZXT Phantom 820 (it's expensive, $250). It's also enormous, way bigger than most people need so I wouldn't recommend it, even though I love it. I'm planning to re-use this thing for many years and builds, so I wanted the most space possible.
I do need to walk back my statement for the RAM, though. For some bizarre reason, Amazon's RAM is really expensive still. I did manage to snag https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016ORTNI2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
for 225, and it was worth the extra couple of bucks to me to get it literally the next morning.
Vengeance LPX 16GB 2400MHz for $60 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017NW5NZY/ref=asc_df_B017NW5NZY5945270?tag=georiot-us-default-20&ascsubtag=trd-4589478826149062758-20
MSI B450 Gaming Plus for $96: https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Performance-Crossfire-Motherboard-B450/dp/B07F83RVTC/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=b450+gaming+plus&qid=1563230351&s=gateway&sr=8-1
I was just looking at this ram last week to go with the matching set I already have.
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2400MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B017NW5NZY/
Went ahead and bought the Sabrent, ty
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https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2400MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B017NW5NZY/ref=sr_1_3?crid=14ET19L07PQR7&keywords=2x8gb+ddr4&qid=1569002868&s=electronics&sprefix=2x8gb+ddr%2Celectronics%2C160&sr=1-3
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This good enough for ram?
Sure do
The RX 580 looked good but it went slightly over my budget.
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2400MHz C16 Desktop Memory Kit - Black (CMK16GX4M2A2400C16) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017NW5NZY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_XDU9BbN3TND11
I would really recommend swinging $25 more for an extra 8 gigs, plus you will regret a 2x4 setup down the road.
A similar kit on https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2400MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B017NW5NZY/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=16gb+ddr4+ram&qid=1558543163&s=gateway&sprefix=16gb+&sr=8-4
if you mean Corsair vengeance lpx like this then yes. disappointed you don't consider the other option i gave :{ .
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CQ35GYE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I bought the Kinston, shown above. As long is its the same kind of RAM and the same Specs it shouldn't really matter. Although if there is a problem the PC will probably show some kind of error or crash.
Would this RAM Stick fit into my Elitebook 8470p ?
https://www.amazon.com.mx/gp/product/B00CQ35GYE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Im almost sure it is compatible (actually i already bought it) but Laptop RAM is the only thing ive ever bought that was not compatible (this was a while ago and ive never been able to recover from it :( ), and a 2nd opinion would set my mind at ease.
You don't give your specs, but it sounds like you need to up your memory from 4GB to 8GB. For $30 at Amazon. Also, an SSD is a wonder on load times.
I've got the DN2820FYK running OpenELEC. I pretty much never need to restart it. Here's my setup:
4GB DDR3L RAM
Xbox 360 Remote
Rosewill MCE Remote for after I got sick of the 360 remote not having a stop button.
Getting an SSD is overkill, but I like it because it ensures the NUC is quiet and boots about as fast as possible. All of them are small enough. Here's one with decent reviews that's especially small.
As far as noise goes, I've never personally heard the NUC. I live in an apartment though. It's possible if you put it in some kind of sound deadened room, you might hear it, if you've got really good ears.
Here's what I've decided on. Let me know what you think.
My Alpha came with 1 stick of 4GB RAM. I bought an additional RAM module, link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CQ35GYE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
The thing is the RAM I bought is working fine when plugged into slot 1.
I contacted the Dell Tech center in my country, and they said since they don't offer this model in my country, they do not have any training or spare parts to repair it for me. Sending to Dell USA means shipping it halfway across the world.
https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-HyperX-FURY-2x4GB-1600MHz/dp/B00J8E93G6
In fact, if you can spare <$50 more, use the following:
CPU w/fan: https://www.amazon.com/AMD-FD8350FRHKBOX-FX-8350-8-Core-Processor/dp/B009O7YUF6/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1524797716&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=fx+8350&amp;dpID=41OmFJWZ6zL&amp;preST=_SY300_QL70_&amp;dpSrc=srch
Motherboard: https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-4xDDR3-Realtek-4xUSB3-1-Motherboard/dp/B079GRXBDJ/ref=pd_bxgy_147_2?_encoding=UTF8&amp;pd_rd_i=B079GRXBDJ&amp;pd_rd_r=JBFS8EN75RGE9RB10T67&amp;pd_rd_w=z7nXW&amp;pd_rd_wg=Y6aLX&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=JBFS8EN75RGE9RB10T67
Memory: https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-HyperX-FURY-2x4GB-1600MHz/dp/B00J8E93G6/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1524798070&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=ddr3+1333
EDIT
And you have to trade out that ps:
https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Continuous-Active-Supply-PS-SPD-0600NPCWUS-W/dp/B014W3EMAO/ref=sr_1_2/131-8414396-1130407?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1524798437&amp;sr=1-2&amp;refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A6906985011
Would this work?
Ok I will buy 2x4 gb. I found this article on amzon with good reviews. It is a DDR 3 Ram so it should fit into my laptop right? It has 1600 Mhz will it be a problem? Because some of the Rams have 1350 Mhz and some of them 1600 Mhz
https://www.amazon.co.uk/HyperX-FURY-1600MHz-Memory-Module/dp/B00J8E93G6/ref=sr_1_5?s=computers&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1472828956&amp;sr=1-5&amp;keywords=ddr3+8gb
8GB if you're gaming; 16GB if you want to do processing or rendering.
The HyperX Fury should do the trick
I'm planning on getting an i5 6500. With the right motherboard, will it support DDR3 RAM? This is the RAM that I currently have https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-HyperX-FURY-2x4GB-1600MHz/dp/B00J8E93G6
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-HyperX-FURY-2x4GB-1600MHz/dp/B00J8E93G6
You are not getting good value for your money, like at all... GTX 960 and AMD 7970 are going for C$200 on ebay from reputable sellers including shipping, a dual core 6100 is not going to cut it current games (its really just a single core, since your OS will be eating 25% of a core for background tasks). You would be better off trying to get a used 2500k ( they are going for ~C$150 ) with a Z68 or an x7x series that supports overclocking with a K-series processor.
Buying used when you are on a budget is the way to go, since a lot of people upgrading to the latest and greatest are willing to part with their used hardware on the cheap. As an example, I will be selling my 2nd rig: 8350, Asus m5a99x evo r2.0 and 8GB of RAM for ~$195 (2/3rds of the store price) once the NVIDIA (1070+1080 ) and AMD (Polaris) paper launches are over.
If you want to learn how to buy used, I can recommend a few channels: Oafah, Tech YES City and Linus Tech Tips Scrapyard Wars series
What would you suggest between
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-HyperX-FURY-2x4GB-1600MHz/dp/B00J8E93G6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1409944209&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=ram
and
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006YG9E7O/?tag=pcpapi-20
Is there a benefit to buying two sticks of 4GB memory against buying a single stick of 8GB memory? Right now Kingston HyperX Fury has both on sale for the same price: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J8E93G6/?tag=pcpapi-20
Guys i'm pretty sure he's asking us to suggest him a RAM stick.
OP, you need at least 8GB i'd say, depends on your budget, any RAM will do fine.
Also, DDR3/DDR4 depends on your motherboard. You can't just mix and match, tell us the name of your motherboard and we will tell you what RAM to buy.
DDR4 8GB for 32$: https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-2133MHz-Non-ECC-Desktop-HX421C14FBK2/dp/B00TY6A1P0
DDR3 8GB for 35$: https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-HyperX-FURY-2x4GB-1600MHz/dp/B00J8E93G6
I PMed you but i5-2400, sapphire HD7870, 2gb ram, 900 watts coolmax, no HDD, optical drive. Plus a vostro 460 case as it's all built by me and ready to ship as well. PM me back for prices
2x4 ram https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J8E93G6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_
1TB HDD https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0088PUEPK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_JYW2xbYCQ3C6C
Ok so the CPU is still good?
I'll explain fully for you incase you arent following. I want to either upgrade or buy her a new computer, I want her to be able to play games fairly well and not have problems with performance or games like WoW, Arma, GTA V etc.
Like I said im fairly amateur at all of this so sorry if im making it difficult to follow.
Edit: She also runs 2 monitors at 1920x1080 Asus HDMI
Edit2 : So I found these parts, would these be sufficient?
GPUS:
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GAMING-GeForce-GTX-1060/dp/B01IEKYD5U/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473727662&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=gtx+1060
Or (I dont know what the difference in these 2 would be?)
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Support-Graphics-06G-P4-6161-KR/dp/B01IPVSGEC/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473727662&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=gtx+1060
SSD:
https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digital-SSDNow-SUV400S37-240G/dp/B01FJ4UL2S/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473727776&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=SSD+240
Ram:
https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-HyperX-FURY-2x4GB-1600MHz/dp/B00J8E93G6/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473727856&amp;sr=1-5&amp;keywords=8GB+of+DDR3
Cooling fan:
https://www.amazon.com/Hyper-TX3-Cooler-Direct-Contact/dp/B005HIRDUA/ref=sr_1_11?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473727966&amp;sr=1-11&amp;keywords=CPU+cooler
Thanks for answering. Do you know if I could still run dual channel memory if I got another kit of 2x4gb like this?
Mini-ITX setups are king of this field! Unfortunately they tend to get kind of expensive, and Intel seems to be the only only one on the boat. If you are looking for a less expensive setup, the AMD APU line is stellar for entry-mid range gaming setups ref=sr_1_2on the cheap. Here is my suggestion:
AMD A10 6800K:
http://www.amazon.com/AMD-A10-Series-Desktops-A10-6800K-AD680KWOHLBOX/dp/B00CPLGGXM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1416517343&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=amd+apu+a10
8gb DDR3:
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-HyperX-FURY-2x4GB-1600MHz/dp/B00J8E93G6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1416517439&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=8gb+ddr3
Gigabyte FM2+ A88x Motherboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Dual-Link-Monitor-Motherboard-GA-F2A88X-D3H/dp/B00F8AFLG0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1416517490&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=gigabyte+fm2%2B
Silverstone Tek Grandia Case
http://www.amazon.com/Silverstone-Tek-Aluminum-Computer-GD09B/dp/B00KHO0MRK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1416517616&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=htpc+atx+case
Corsair Builder Series CX 500 Watt
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Builder-Series-Watt-CX500/dp/B0092ML0MY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1416517704&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=500watt+corsair
You can either go with a single 1TB HDD or a 120gb SSD and still remain in budget. I would suggest Samsung for the SSD and any old HDD will do, they are all about the same these days.
Additionally, if you wanted a boost in video game performance you Crossfire [Link the internal GPU with a Graphics card in this case] for a fairly significant performance boost. Below is a link to the card that delivers:
http://www.amazon.com/XFX-650MHz-PCI-Express-Graphics-HD667XCLF3/dp/B00AHV7NNE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1416517809&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=HD+6670
Excluding the graphics card, you are just below you $500 maximum. I would highly suggest the card if you intend on some light gaming.
Good Luck!
Thanks for your suggestions!
Motherboard: I searched for a cheaper B85 but the best I could find was $50, but I feel like I'm losing more than $40 in value by doing so.
RAM: I found (slightly) cheaper RAM, but it was from a brand I hadn't heard of before and only saved me $10 at most. I did find this Kingston set for the exact same price.
Graphics card: I only added this cheap one in because I got grilled for the last computer I submitted without one...I guess this would be easy to add back in should the need arise.
Windows 8: Thanks, I forgot about that!
I built you computer that I think will last you quite sometime. It's a bit over your budget but if you can get some more money it will be worth it in the long run.
CPU
http://www.amazon.com/AMD-FD8350FRHKBOX-FX-8350-FX-Series-Edition/dp/B009O7YUF6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1414454119&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=AMD+FX
Power supply (don't know what your wattage is, but this is a safe choice)
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Modular-Bronze-ATX12V-EPS12V/dp/B00ALK3KEM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1414454475&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=power+supply
Memory
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-HyperX-FURY-2x4GB-1600MHz/dp/B00J8E93G6/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1414454280&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=ram
Motherboard
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Chipset-2000MHz-Motherboards-GA-970A-D3P/dp/B00DJ3DWFK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1414454661&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=gigabyte+motherboard
Total: $430 - A lot of these products are on sale right now so it could be more or less come buying the parts.
Like I said this is a build on the higher price point but it will work well for you for another 7-10 years.
would http://www.microcenter.com/product/433130/Z97-Gaming_5_1150ATX_Intel_Motherboard this mobo be compatible with
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-HyperX-FURY-2x4GB-1600MHz/dp/B00J8E93G6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1420052747&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=kingston+ram its not coming up on pcpartpicker as compatible but i cant see why it isnt.
Is this good RAM?
The power supply will be fine. The i5 and motherboard are a little bit dated, 4GB of memory should probably be upgraded to at least 8GB for modern gaming. You could buy an R9 290 for under $300. You could keep the Radeon HD 5870 (it should still be fine to play games at 1080p medium settings, unless the titles have been ubisofted) and upgrade CPU and Motherboard, then upgrade the 5870 in a month or two. One last thing: upgrade to GTX 750 Ti FTW from EVGA, LGA 1150 motherboard, Pentium G3258, 8GB RAM. That will give you plenty of options for upgrades. You could go as far as a Core i7 + GTX 980 later. The power supply will hold up to any of these options.
Links to items on Amazon:
Just R9 290
R9 290 - http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Computer-Corp-290-GAMING/dp/B00HPS4AFG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1419091411&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=r9+290
Keep the HD 5870 and upgrade CPU + Motherboard
Core i5 4670K - http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-4670K-Quad-Core-Desktop-Processor/dp/B00CO8TBOW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1419091540&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=core+i5+4570k
Motherboard - http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-B85M-E-CSM-DDR3-Motherboard/dp/B00CRJU2X2/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1419091591&amp;sr=8-16&amp;keywords=lga+1150+motherboard
Pentium G3258, GTX 750 Ti FTW, LGA 1150 motherboard, 8GB RAM.
Pentium G3258 - http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Pentium-Processor-G3258-BX80646G3258/dp/B00KPRWAZQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1419090974&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=pentium+g3258
MSI motherboard - http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Computer-MicroATX-Motherboard-H81M-E33/dp/B00F42W70A/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1419090913&amp;sr=8-5&amp;keywords=lga+1150+motherboard
GTX 750 Ti FTW - http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Display-Graphics-02G-P4-3757-KR/dp/B00J0ISHMQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1419090882&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=750+ti+ftw
8GB RAM - http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-HyperX-FURY-2x4GB-1600MHz/dp/B00J8E93G6/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1419091061&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=8GB+ram
Yes, I realize some of these are slightly over a total of $300. Also these options (aside from r9 290) give the system plenty of room to upgrade. As for power supply, the TX 650 should be fine. Reuse your old hard drive and reuse your case.
For the ram, I would recomend Kingston HyperX FURY 8GB as 8GB is fine for gaming (In your current build you only have 4GB)
Link
For the CPU, I would recomend Intel Core i5-4690K which is a good CPU for its price point and can be overclocked.
Link
I wouldn't get that kit as it's 4x3 GB modules, and likely for a triple channel setup such as lga 1366. You will want a 2x4 GB kit for dual channel most likely such as this or this
I have some DDR3 RAM sticks and was wondering if they would be compatible with a LGA 1151 MOBO.
Parts I´m considering are:
MOBO: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0165YUDTM?psc=1&amp;redirect=true&amp;ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
RAM: http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-HyperX-FURY-2x4GB-1600MHz/dp/B00J8E93G6/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1449689748&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=kingston+hyperx+fury
CPU: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-BX80662I36100-i3-6100-Cache-Processor/dp/B015VPX2EO/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1449689803&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=intel+core+i3+6100
Ah, so they do both have to be 4GB then since that is what I already have.
I was thinking just grabbing the same ones.. do the MHz matter a lot? 1600 vs 2100
https://www.amazon.ca/Kingston-HyperX-2x4GB-1600MHz-HX316C10FBK2/dp/B00J8E93G6/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1503500315&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=kingston+hyperx+fury
https://www.amazon.ca/Kingston-2133MHz-Non-ECC-Desktop-HX421C14FBK2/dp/B00TY6A1P0/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1503500315&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=kingston+hyperx+fury
Here are the two I was looking at...
Also.. what graphics card would you go for? I was hoping not to spend a whole lot!
while personally id opt for a whole new build, not everyone has that kinda cash to just throw down so i'll throw my recomendations as far as what youve presented so far.
First: The PSU - dont buy cheiftech opt for a evga 700W bronze they can be had right now for $40.
Second: the Ram - While buying your ram an extra 2gb will get you by the mhz on the current ones is low for what your motherboard supports id personally opt for the 8GB stick of Kingston fury x for $45
Third: The graphics card - Now heres where id chime in you mentioned a 750ti but new those are still going to $100 for an extra $50 you can grab a gtx 1050ti and have a hell of a lot more performance for the price and be in the current gen of graphics cards.
Anyways if you have any questions let me know.
Yea there's a refurbished one for $79.99 and I want to sli later down the road, probably next year, so this looked pretty nice.
Then I have this ram in my cart as wel
I've also decided to use Kington HyperX Fury RAM, But I was unable to find it on PartPicker.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00J8E93G6/ref=psdcmw_172500_t2_B011JYR5Z8 this would work fine.
should i get the Crucial unbuffered DDR4 memory for $29.99 or PNY Anarchy memory for 27.99
This ram will work with my motherboard right?
crucial 8gb ddr4 2133
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MMLUYVU/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&amp;colid=3C4HWUE2979WZ&amp;coliid=I17AM8VX7U2QW6&amp;psc=1
Gigabyte LGA1151 Intel Z170 Micro ATX DDR4 Motherboards GA-Z170M-D3H https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B012N6F0TO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
ok are these the same?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004QBUL1C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_BjCaAb646KA2B
https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16820233180
G.Skill Ares 2x4GB CAS9 1600 MHz RAM- 65$
Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB CAS9 1600 MHz RAM- 73$
amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-PC3-12800-1600mHz-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B/dp/B004QBUL1C/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1314748582&amp;sr=8-2
Also, could I (and is it a good idea to) substitute the processor, motherboard and RAM for the following?
RAM
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-PC3-12800-1600mHz-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B/dp/B004QBUL1C/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1393878642&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=corsair+vengeance+8gb
CPU
http://www.amazon.com/AMD-A6-6400K-Dual-Core-Processor-AD640KOKHLBOX/dp/B00CPLGFM4/ref=pd_sim_pc_5?ie=UTF8&amp;refRID=0RBKFE3C6PG8MANKPYX9
Motherboard
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Socket-MicroATX-Motherboard-FM2-A75MA-E35/dp/B009HP42HQ/ref=pd_bxgy_pc_img_y
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
That was really my only issue. Danks Silverfox.
EDIT: Would you mind checking out the other few links here, and giving me a bit of insight to whether or not I'm in the clear?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004QBUL1C/?tag=bestmemory-20 - Memory
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0088PUEPK/?tag=besthdds-20 - HDD
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00607JNIM/?tag=thowisguy-20 - Power Supply
I am also changing the ram to this: http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-PC3-12800-1600mHz-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B/dp/B004QBUL1C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1414897392&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Corsair+ram
So If I have this RAM:
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-PC3-12800-1600mHz-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B/dp/B004QBUL1C/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1420058776&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=corsair+vengeance
Is it possible for me to add this RAM into my system (Both are compatible with the board I have but can I use them simultaneously): http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Desktop-Memory-CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10/dp/B006EWUO22/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1420058776&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=corsair+vengeance
My real concern was the difference in Timings.
That's what I'm calculating right now, $1063 would be phenomenal. The only thing on Amazon I can't find is the memory.
Edit: Mine totaled to $1188 with this as the alternative memory from the other post! http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004QBUL1C/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&amp;colid=3VR3QWAE6YBEU&amp;coliid=I23TPWARSS9Z8Y
> dual channel kit
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004QBUL1C/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_img?_encoding=UTF8&amp;colid=2I6BH7WH6Y55T&amp;coliid=I2VTECRZIFGIN4
this look good?
I have a Gigabyte GA-970A-D3P and looking to get 8gb of memory. Here's what I'm looking at so far:
Also, my AMD FX-8350 stock cooler is insanely loud and I'm looking to replace it.
This is exactly what I ordered. As far as I can find they don't make Corsair Vengeance ECC.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004QBUL1C/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8
corsair vengence 2x4gb
g skill ripjaw 2x4gb
$31 each or $57 for both
Thanks, I'll look into that. While I was looking for parts I found this motherboard for cheaper that I could get with free shipping along with the processor - do you know if it will be any different? I'm afraid of buying it only to find out it's incompatible for some reason.
edit: also it looks like the memory has a mail-in rebate that expires today, so would this be a suitable alternative?
corsair vengeance 8gb is $45
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-PC3-12800-1600mHz-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B/dp/B004QBUL1C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1343677284&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=8gb+ram
Just know that you can really get an extremely good, top of the line PC for $2,000
I highly recommend trying /r/buildapc and /r/pcmasterrace, and check out 4chan's /vg/ if you want to see what people think about games right now.
From what I can see, you could save some money in a few ways:
If you're really looking to cut costs down, you could probably live with a smaller (or without) an SSD, and mod the case fans yourself with red LEDs (quite easy to do with some wire and solder), and check out /r/microsoftsoftwareswap if it'll work out for you.
I saw you hadn't gotten any thought-out responses, good luck to you.
P.S. On a personal note, I would recommend an NVIDIA (I like MSI) graphics card, as they perform exceptionally well for the power usage, or an AMD Radeon, which is cost-effective and I like their software interface, especially for overclocking.
If you want the full pc gaming experience, I would highly recommend actually building your own pc. It's tons of fun, relatively easy to do, and you learn so much by doing so. If I was you, however, I would probably go ahead and refund what you've got. It just wasn't made for gaming, no matter how much the salesman told you it was. You can build some bang on machines for $700, implying that you have all the peripherals (monitor, headset, etc).
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6531504&amp;CatId=1509&amp;SRCCODE=LINKSHARE&amp;cm_mmc_o=-ddCjC1bELltzywCjC-d2CjCdwwp&amp;utm_source=Linkshare&amp;utm_medium=Affiliate&amp;utm_campaign=efAhvP8Sq*o&amp;AffiliateID=efAhvP8Sq.o-PF.4GlLPjduk_qj2fSYmAw
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007MJGMXQ/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B007MJGMXQ&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=vidgamwri-20
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-PC3-12800-1600mHz-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B/dp/B004QBUL1C/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1381800933&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=8gb+ram
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3858040&amp;CatId=7248&amp;SRCCODE=LINKSHARE&amp;cm_mmc_o=-ddCjC1bELltzywCjC-d2CjCdwwp&amp;utm_source=Linkshare&amp;utm_medium=Affiliate&amp;utm_campaign=efAhvP8Sq*o&amp;AffiliateID=efAhvP8Sq.o-Hs61u1s7RGYJnizEE0NiIw
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005UBNL0A/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B005UBNL0A&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=vidgamwri-20
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-power-supply-rs550pcare3us
~$100 for OEM operating system.
I tried to estimate the math in my head as I was pasting them, it'll put you right between $7-800
I'd like to get [these ones] (http://www.amazon.ca/Corsair-Vengeance-PC3-12800-1600mHz-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B/dp/B004QBUL1C/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1422479682&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=8gb+ram) but my manual doesnt have them in the "compatible tables". its DDR3 though.
EDIT: thats because its not compatible. I just noticed the anchors are different.
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-PC3-12800-1600mHz-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B/dp/B004QBUL1C
Although my 2x4 was part of a 16 gb kit.
switch out to this ram its the same spec but cheaper
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-PC3-12800-1600mHz-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B/dp/B004QBUL1C/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1427248318&amp;sr=8-19&amp;keywords=8+gig+ddr+3
and this ssd from a better company and is newerhttp://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-2-5-Inch-Height-SDSSDHII-240G-G25/dp/B00M8ABEIM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427248398&sr=8-1&keywords=sandisk+ultra+ssd
That will be fine. Best Buy will price-match Amazon so be sure to use this link when you go to check out. http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004QBUL1C/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&amp;condition=new
After the price match you'll be around $5-6 more expensive than most online deals which isn't terrible especially if you want it sooner rather than later.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004QBUL1C/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?ie=UTF8&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
U are way overpaying for that 1333mhz ram. You can get 2X4gb of corsair Vengence 1600mhz ram in Amazon for $85. And it's blue :)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004QBUL1C/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1398051727&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=SX200_QL40
The only difference between these and the blue ones is colour, right? I'm looking to buy another pair and have been waiting for a deal to come by.
This is my parts which I built
Case : Cooler Master HAF 922
CPU : Intel Core i5-2500K
CPU Cooler : Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
Mobo : GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD4-B3
Memory : Corsair Vengeance Blu 8 GB (2X4GB) PC3-12800 1600mHz DDR3 240-Pin SDRAM Dual Channel Memory Kit
HDD : Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB
GPU : EVGA GeForce GTX 570
PSU : Cooler Master GX Series 750W ATX
What if I were to use this RAM instead?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004QBUL1C/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
I currently have 8GB RAM. If I were to upgrade to 16GB, do I have to buy a 16GB kit to replace everything? Do I need to buy just 8GB of the RAM I currently have or can I just buy 8GB of any RAM that is compatible. My biggest concern is with the channels.
I have this RAM with a ASRock Z77.
Thanks.
Hopefully this works :
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00CC6YN6M/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004QBUL1C/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0088PUEPK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004FPQL0E/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00IGQ4Z3S/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B008PDA9LE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00ALYOTTI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_8?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007KZQE7Q/ref=ox_sc_act_title_9?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
16gb of DDR3 1600 (these), not overclocked. Used to have just one pair of those for 8gb without any problems (same 1600 sticks).
Got policed. Here's confirmation of my earlier comment. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004QBUL1C/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1479595601&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=SX200_QL40&amp;keywords=Corsair+vengeance+ddr3&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=51BQvRnSBwL&amp;ref=plSrch
First off, thank you a ton. I asked a friend of mine to look at the build (sorry, but I like to check things :P, I'm paranoid), and he said it looks great. I was curious though if you had the time to verify a few things for me. I couldn't find a few of the things you had suggested so I checked on some other things... Could you verify that they are just as usable for me please?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000GQMHBI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A34FFV8YYDM571
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0064GOQ86/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DHW4HXY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0088PUEPK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_8?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0055QYKQO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_9?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A1XBPHGHAXLHDG
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_10?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004QBUL1C/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0033Z2BAQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A30YNTVQ04HG16
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003HE260I/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
And sorry for the late reply. I've been trying to ensure that I have the money together so that I can actually pay for it without running into issues haha.
maybe. This is my old set: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B004QBUL1C/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
lmk if interested
Currently my PC is 6+ years old. It plays all of the games I want but it's tough. Right now I'm playing a lot of Fortnite at mid settings but that's with my video card overclocked as high as it can and the fans are like a jet taking off. I get about 45-50 fps.
My video card is an MSI R7850 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007MLSGHE
I have an i5 2500k cpu with 8 gigs of ddr3 memory
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004EBUXHQ
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004QBUL1C
I assume it is the gpu that is the limiting factor here, what can I upgrade it with that will last me for the next year or two? I figure at that point I'd need to make a complete new build anyway.
well what motherboard is it going in? what cpu and gpu do you have? faster ram can help with both fps and general computing stuff (like zipping 17 archives at once). i take it you mean this ram?
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Desktop-Memory-CML8GX3M2A1600C9/dp/B00569K7LM
if you are asking about gaming (without knowing what you have already) you should probably only worry about ram after your GPU and CPU are great.
It's because of the floods in Thailand that they're so high, a lot of Hard drives got drowned in a factory or something. Brings tears to my eyes. ;(
This is great man, thank you so much - and thanks for all the quick replies!
What I think I'm going to do tonight is buy everything that I'm set and sure on (and all the parts that are currently on sale - don't want to lose a good deal), and buy the remaining things; GPU, HDD and case - at a later date (probably within the next week).
Just a final check that this will all work together, before I hit 'buy' -
CPU
CPU cooler
Motherboard
Memory
PSU
And all that costs ~£400, leaving me with ~£400 or £450 for the GPU, HDD and case. Rather happy with that! :D
Found these for $57 (I think they have higher timings, whatever that is, but still 1600), and a Corsair pair for $37 (although I don't know how those compare specs-wise). Thoughts?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00569K7LM/?tag=pcpapi-20 ?
Alright, I found the same ram on amazon for £67. AIO might be out of my budget. Could a £50 air cooler be noticeably better than an Evo 212 or should I go for a PSU?
I have a PC that is currently running 8GB of this RAM. I want to buy some more and did some searching on Amazon and found 16GB of this for $20 more. So I could either buy a second set of the first and have 16GB total or the second and have 24GB total. However I noticed the timings were different. Is this an issue?
You're running DDR3 memory, meaning you'll need to buy DDR3 or it wont fit.
[This] (https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2x4GB-Desktop-Memory/dp/B00569K7LM/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1488067178&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=4x2+ddr3) Corsair memory is a good option, and not terribly expensive. The speed/CAS timing may be off but (someone correct me if I'm wrong) it isn't a huge deal if it is.
I wish I had 16 to offer, but I can give you 4x2 of these for $40 plus shipping if you are interested. I used them for about 10 months with no problems.
So as opposed to the link in the first comment, would the RAM linked below work better considering it is both low-profile and has the same cas latency/timing?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00569K7LM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&amp;colid=2CYY6CNUNYDAC&amp;coliid=I3NZ71ZYNHII6Y
edit: also, I don't know if the fact that the Corsair RAM I linked isn't specified as being Dual channel while the G.Skill RAM I currently have is dual channel and is installed on my Mobo as such
I had similar RAM in my system (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007BEJ5EA/?tag=pcpapi-20), and wanted to add some more. I added a pair of these (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00569K7LM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1) and my system would not boot with them both installed. I'm not really sure why.
Nice build, how's the RAM? i was debating on buying the same one or the corsair vengeance low profile ones. Thoughts?
How will this mesh with my current RAM?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00569K7LM/?tag=pcpapi-20
I know that CAS matching is something to look for. Don't really want to drop 110 bucks if I am going to error out :/
I was originally thinking of a Razer! Cheers bud, it means a lot to have a bit of help!
I'm not sure about the monitor I might just get this one (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dell-Ultrasharp-U2312HM-inch-Monitor/dp/B005MHMFJA/ref=cm_lmf_tit_13_rdssss0) and then I can have everything delivered by amazon with my discounts ;)
I've been doing some research into the PhysX and you speak a lot of truth, £30 isnt a lot at all to moan about haha
Funny enough I play the games on console, never had a gaming pc in my life - I hope I like playing keyboard and mouse!!
Dude of course I will send you pictures! I can't wait myself, I'm going away to the UK for 10 days tomorrow so I hope it'll all arrive while I'm away. I'll let you know when I've finished!
Let me know when you're set up as well - if you make a steam account I'll gift you a game or just message me you details and I can amazon you something you've been a great help and a really funny guy.
Before I go and buy this beast: the RAM you put isn't in stock direct so do you reckon this one will be okay? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CML8GX3M2A1600C9-Vengeance-1600MHz-Memory/dp/B00569K7LM
You don't necessarily need 16GB of RAM. You could cut back to 2x4GB Corsair Vengeance Low Profiles and save about $60.
Or get a single 8GB stick and upgrade later.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B00569K7LM/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&amp;condition=new
thanks :) Can I add another?
I tried to get my RAM to 1600 mHz (my current RAM SHOULD Support it, but as soon as I try to set the clock to 1600, it wont boot and after 5 failed boot attempts, resets the BIOS.
Any guide or help here?
Which SSD is better? Transcend 128gb vs. Silicon Power s60 120gb
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K9HID0I/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0D9-0021-00005
and which RAM is better? Corsair vengeance LP or standard?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00569K7LM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233144&amp;cm_re=corsair_vengeance-_-20-233-144-_-Product
I would avoid that particular model/config due to its low-resolution and poor quality display (1366x768 which won't let you fit much onscreen; grayish blacks and poor vertical viewing angles). Getting a decent display will likely affect how nice your computer is to use, more than the differences between most other specs, and at this budget it's really easy to avoid poor displays.
For a direct alternative, I would do this:
Gets you a much better display, and also the better T-Series build quality, for not much higher of a price.
You are almost making me change my mind ;)
Here is what I could consider aside from the sg-3100.
https://www.amazon.ca/QOTOM-Q330G4-Mini-Barebone-pfSense/dp/B074PK8ZVG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1518383025&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=pfsense
https://www.amazon.ca/mSATA-Industrial-Grade-Enterprise-Class/dp/B0711K4RJ4/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=Q3MS2JBS1MDAB0VAAMRQ
https://www.amazon.ca/Crucial-Single-PC3-12800-Unbuffered-204-Pin/dp/B005LDLV6S/ref=pd_sim_147_2?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=Q3MS2JBS1MDAB0VAAMRQ
or
https://www.amazon.ca/Crucial-Single-PC3-12800-Unbuffered-204-Pin/dp/B006YG8X9Y/ref=pd_sim_147_3?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=Q3MS2JBS1MDAB0VAAMRQ
So this would be 400$ +taxes Canadian and the sg-3100 would turn around 500-520$ Canadian.
The Qotom takes a bit more power.. would this matter on the electricity bill at the end of the month? :) I don't know.
edits: I wish Netgate had some coupons.
Thanks for explaining it in a easy way for me! The 1080p screen is very tempting...do you happen to know what the difference is between these 2 types of ram??
https://www.amazon.ca/Crucial-DDR3-1600-PC3-12800-204-Pin-CT51264BF160BJ/dp/B009RBN6I6/ref=pd_sim_147_1?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=AXP69ZQDPWRTBEV4ZD8N
https://www.amazon.ca/Crucial-PC3-12800-204-Pin-Notebook-CT51264BF160B/dp/B005LDLV6S/ref=pd_sim_147_4?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=AXP69ZQDPWRTBEV4ZD8N
One.
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Done.
"The 2.5” SATA III HDD/SSD extension bay and SO-DIMM DDR3 memory slots are upgradable via the specially designed door, but due to its highly integrated design to maximize power and cooling in such a small space, other components are fixed inside."
this ram should be fine for you.
Sto pensando di montare più RAM sul mio PC, dopo che per un progetto in uni mi son dannato per blocchi continui. Non ho mai acquistato ne smanettato con l'hardware, ma dovrei aver trovato tutte le informazioni del caso. Manca solo un'ultima cosa: single rank o double rank? Cambia qualcosa? Rischio di avere problemi di compatibilità? Per referenza il portatile è un TravelMate P258M, la RAM che avevo trovato è questa (o questa). Un programma per fare la scansione del PC mi dice questo per la RAM. Grazie in anticipo :D
Edit: grammatica.
The bad news:
Wifi sucks for media distribution. While many routers will do 802.11 a/b/g/n speeds, they'll mostly only do one at a time. So if you have just one slow device in the house requiring a/b speeds, it's going to drag your real-world transfer speeds into the 150kbps range and even SD video will stutter.
Most "smart" TVs aren't. Many brand new smart panels/BD players have poor codec support and abysmal interfaces.
The good news:
All of this is fixable. As for moving files, you can find and disable the slow device that's dragging down your wireless network. In my case, it ended up being a wireless printer. Alternately, you can pull an ethernet cable from your server to the TV, or do ethernet over AC.
As for smartening up your TV, you have several options. The free one is to keep using the PC that's currently connected to it. It's not really putting any "strain" on the CPU, since unless it's an ancient machine, video playback is handled with no real effort by the GPU. If you want a standalone device, I've tried dozens of set-top players over the years and have found the WD TV units to be as close to perfect as anybody has gotten. Codec support is very good, the interface is acceptable, and they play nice with network shares.
However, if you're willing to spend a bit more, you can get a full-fledged windows PC that is even smaller and more capable. I currently use two gigabyte brix systems in my house. Toss in 4GB of RAM and a cheap SSD and you can have a complete system for about $200. Using a good media player like MPC-HC this will handle anything you throw at it.
I literally just bought an Intel Nuc 2830 that runs Open Elec on a USB and it's absolutely fantastic
I bought all the parts from Amazon
NUC Intel DN2820FYKH Barebone Desktop (Celeron N2820 2.39GHz, HD Graphics, WLAN, Bluetooth 4.0) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00I60Z8Q2/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_CmiNub1HSZGXF
Ram Crucial CT51264BF160B 4GB DDR3 PC3-12800 Unbuffered NON-ECC 1.35V https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005LDLV6S/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_lniNub0XRKW7D
USB Kingston Technology 16GB Data Traveler G4 USB 3.0 Flash Drive - Frustration Free Packaging https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00IRD6TRU/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_KniNub0NGZAMB
It steams uncompressed Blu rays with ease, absolutely no buffering at all
I had an Amazon Fire TV last week and it really struggled with the blu rays, hence why I bought this
Here is a 2GB stick, and a 4GB stick I found on amazon.
According to this page OP has windows 7 Home Basic x64, which supports a max of 8GB RAM total.
Not sure if it said desktop or not but I'll double check, meanwhile I'm just ordering from Amazon and is this okay?
Crucial 4GB Single DDR3L 1600 MT/s (PC3-12800) SODIMM 204-Pin Memory - CT51264BF160B https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005LDLV6S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_IoiRzb0Z6FR5M
The DS1815+ officially supports a maximum of 6GB of RAM. It has 2GB onboard and supports a 4GB SODIMM. The Crucial CT51264BF160B is a known-good option and costs less than $25.
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Single-PC3-12800-SODIMM-204-Pin/dp/B005LDLV6S/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1479388206&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=KVR16LS11%2F4
That said, unofficially, you can pop in an 8GB stick into the open slot instead and hunt down and replace the 2GB stick that is inside the box with another 8GB stick for a total of 16GB. Instructions here:
https://miketabor.com/how-to-upgrade-synology-ds1815-16gb-ram/
This RAM should work if your laptop has 1 available slot:
http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-PC3-12800-204-Pin-Notebook-CT51264BF160B/dp/B005LDLV6S/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1427843558&amp;sr=8-12&amp;keywords=DDR3+1333+soDIMM
As for an SSD the Samsung EVO series, Crucial MX200 and Intel SSDs are good.
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Not sure about that exact model, however i'm using this Crucial memory on my 218+ and haven't had any issues since i did the upgrade in Dec. 2018.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HVKLSVC
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LDLV6S
$171.98 before shipping, but I did cheat a bit in that I already had some old SSD to use, but it really only needs a very small one. The install package (os and Plex) was about 200MB
building these out as Plex clients was one of the most satisfying "It just works" build experiences of my life.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HVKLSVC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LDLV6S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007WT9SU0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
$239 USD all said and done. A great little setup.
I don't the Pi really has the chops to server media over a LAN but who knows, maybe i'm wrong.
Wow! Thanks for the quick reply! - This thread is an awesome resource!
So what do you mean exactly by the "speed". -Is that referencing the 2,4,or 8gb? Or are you refering to a different metric I'm unaware of?
To get more specific my system already has this 4b stick:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LDLV6S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;th=1
But I'm looking to get the same thing but the 8gb version here:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006YG8X9Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;th=1
I eventually plan to get the two 8gb sticks=16gb. But would you recommend I just get a second 4gb stick for the time being?
Thanks for the reply! I looked into it a bit and it and I found this one for much cheaper http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LDLV6S/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Will this one work better?
First result when searching amazon for DDR3-SODIMM is this 8GB kit from Crucial. It should work very well.
If you've got any other questions about that laptop /r/thinkpad is probably a better place to ask.
Try doing whatever you do that slows your machine while looking at activity monitor so you can see which resources are being used a lot. If it's slow and the CPU is close to 100% that's probably the bottleneck.
If you install something like istat you can also look at GPU usage in real time as well.
You just need ddr3 laptop memory. You probably have 2 open slots so buying 2x4gb would be best. Look at "about this mac" and it should say something like 8gb 1600 mhz ddr3 (maybe lower mhz) but get something that matches that.
Here's some that should work but you might find a better deal somewhere else.
Most current generation desktops are adequate for your usage case. I'm personally a fan of the Intel NUC form factor (link). This particular model is one of the newer options and would more than handle everything you will throw at it after adding RAM, an SSD, and optionally a wireless card. The total cost is approximately $590, or $710 if you upgraded to a 480GB SSD. You would also need to buy Windows (or use another OS of your choice).
That said, there are a few important caveats. This may not provide the absolute best value for your money on all fronts. I like the form factor, but you could get more for $600-$700 if you used the Toms Hardware Q1 System Builders Marathon, $750 PC article. By the same hand, that PC is massively overkill for your usage model- integrated graphics from both AMD and Intel can easily handle Netflix. You could probably stay around the $300-$400 price range with some help from /r/buildapc. That said, I still like the NUC since I can mount it to the back of my dumb but otherwise nice TV, attach a webcam and do tutoring/blogging/netflix/home theater stuff with XBMC with a clean looking setup.
I think if you're happy to spend the money, it's a sleek option. If not, the other suggestions here are also all very well thought out.
I recently bought one of these with this RAM and this hard drive to replace my virtualized pfSense install after I was away for two weeks and had ESXi issues that took my VPN offline. I know this sub isn't a fan of Realtek NICs, but what I was looking for was: a processor that supports AES-NI, fanless, compact, dual NICs, low power consumption, and decent price. This machine hit all of those, with the only drawback being non-Intel NICs. So far, I've had absolutely no issues with it. It's a little overkill if you just want basic routing, but I wanted to be able to run OpenVPN, Snort, pfBlockerNG, etc. and have a comfortable overhead for anything I wanted to try in the future.
For an access point, Ubiquiti UniFi UAP-AC-LITE or UAP-AC-PRO are pretty popular "prosumer" products. I'm sure someone can recommend some good switches, but I'm currently running a Netgear GS724T and it provides me with the features I need (VLAN, LAG/LACP) and I'm happy with it.
I see this on amazon. Would it work well?
That's a completely reasonable reason.
This kit should fit perfectly in your machine, without paying the premium crucial charges.
http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-4GBx2-DDR3-1600-CT2KIT51264BF160B/dp/B005LDLVAO/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1415552532&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=DDR3+PC3-12800
Found the RAM we had purchased. It is 1066...
We got it December 23, 2016 but maybe they'll still allow a trade-in since I still have packaging and they're still fine and in good shape. I'll go through Amazon and/or Corsair if necessary. What would be the Corsair RAM I would need then? Would this be the correct Crucial RAM? That is if they allow me to do Corsair for Crucial. In the event I need to do Corsair for Corsair, would this be the correct one?
Thanks again for all of this help. Almost done with this!
Seems like this is the best option. Also, 1.35 V DDR3L RAM is reported to be working on X230 models with the i5-3320M and the i7-3520M. Usually, only 1.5 V regular DDR3 would work.
Upgraded to Sierra 10.12 and re-sat the ram but still no luck. Here's a link to the ram I bought.
ram
I found this kit which is actually currently on sale, although it's still a tad spendy. Then there's this kit which is still expensive, but it is the cheapest I could find on newegg for any 8GB stick of 1600 MHz laptop ram that's not a sketchy buy. I went on to Amazon, and guess what. They have the same kits for the same prices. Unless you want to go with even slower ram, or a less reliable or unproven brand, these look like the best options you currently have. It really doesn't help that the memory market is so expensive right now. Just this time last year I could have bought this same 2X8 kit for probably $35-$40, but now it's $50. I always suggest that you go with a dual stick kit over a single stick, as it will set your ram in a dual channel configuration, making certain tasks run more smoothly and faster. If you know the number of ram slots on your laptop motherboard, which I'm pretty sure all HP laptops since the early 2000s have had 2 slots, then definitely spend the extra few dollars on the 2 stick kit. If money's really that tight, the single 8GB stick should do you just fine. If we really get down to brass tacks, you can check your ram currently in the laptop and if it's a single 4GB stick in one of two slots, you could just buy another stick of that ram with the same CAS latency, frequency, capacity, and voltage. All of that info should be on a sticker on the stick. Other than the used market, or slower ram speeds, this is what I came up with. There are other options on Amazon for cheaper, but a lot of them look relatively sketch. Hopefully this is useful info to you. Good luck with the search.
This should work pretty well:
http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-4GBx2-DDR3-1600-CT2KIT51264BF160B/dp/B005LDLVAO
I don't believe any 2013 MacBook Pros were offered with a 2.5GHz processor so something here is not right. It would help if you gave more information about the computer like a screenshot of "About this Mac". Based on your claims of 2.5GHz processor, 4GB of ram and 500GB of storage my GUESS is that you have a "mid 2012" 13" MacBook Pro but you really should confirm.
If that's right, you can upgrade both the HDD to an SSD and add more RAM (you can go up to 16GB, but 8 would be a good start).
So here if I get 2 of these this will max her out and be compatible correct?
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-PC3L-12800-SODIMM-204-Pin-Memory/dp/B005LDLVAO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1504419743&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=PC3-12800+DDR3+1600+MHz+type+RAM
We're trying as best we can to get proper info and although I know basics this is all over my head being so specific. and I'm going to buy these tomorrow to ship to her if these work, and then she will have herself or a friend install them.
Thanks, I did not see that. Something like this, then
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-CT2KIT51264BF160B-PC3-12800-Unbuffered-NON-ECC/dp/B005LDLVAO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1426872935&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=PC3-8500+8gb
Should be good for you
At stock no oc, would it be somewhat of a good choice? Or should I ditch the idea of using this ram in the build to save money and just go with a mobo that uses dimm?
This is the ram i'm sitting on.
I'm in the market for something very similar, and I've landed on the Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E545. It's got a 2.9 Ghz dual core processor and 4GB of RAM, which should be sufficient for most things. The laptop's only apparent bottleneck is the graphics card, which is an integrated card. Game Debate says it will run The Sims 3 on high settings, though, and it can probably handle some newer games at a low framerate. This laptop is probably the best out-of-the-box laptop you can find for $400. One disappointing thing is the small hard drive, only 320GB, but it's enough if you don't download a lot of movies/games. If you plan on multitasking a lot, I would suggest a small memory upgrade. DISCLAIMER: I don't own this laptop, but I've been doing some research, and I'm about to order it for myself along with a memory upgrade.
Here's someone playing Battlefield 4 with this laptop (+upgraded memory).
Here's the Amazon listing for the laptop. Note that it comes installed with Windows 7 Pro and has Windows 8 Pro in the box.
Here's an Amazon listing for compatible memory upgrades from Crucial.
And here's a video of the laptop's various ports and keyboard.
Definitely do your research, though. This is perfect for my needs but you might find something you like better. This is a little big at 15.6", but it's not excessively large, and 320 GB can be restrictive, but probably plenty of room for your homework and games.
This is the kit I'm using in my mid 2012 It was the lowest cost one at the time I bought it. It works so I guess i'd give it a good review.
I also put an SSD in mine and that makes a huge difference in speed. If you don't have one you need to get one.
Amazon. How much RAM do you have now? I had 2x2GB, sold them and bought 2x4GB.
I don't know if anyone will buy a used 2x2GB today, anyway a quick search shows me $67 for the 8GB kit http://amzn.com/B005LDLVAO and $38 for a single 4GB http://amzn.com/B008D6Y5JK
They are both nice. Crucial Ballistix Sport are even nicer and cheaper: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-BLS2CP4G3D1609DS1S00CEU-Ballistix-240-pin-PC3-12800/dp/B006YG94Y2/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1398350059&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=crucial+ballistix+sport+8gb
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-BLS8G3D1609DS1S00CEU-Ballistix-240-pin-PC3-12800/dp/B006YG9E7O/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1398350059&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=crucial+ballistix+sport+8gb
I keep trying to post this but every time I do it it viewed by the rest of the reddit as deleted. So I have no idea what to do!
Have you read the sidebar and rules? (Please do)
Yes.
What is your intended use for this build? The more details the better.
I plan on starting up a YouTube channel for League of Legends and a few other online games like Starcraft II and Overwatch.
If gaming, what kind of performance are you looking for? (Screen resolution, FPS, game settings)
I want at the very least 720p with a very stable 60 fps for league at medium settings the least, but would prefer to have setting pumped to max.
What is your budget (ballpark is okay)?
My budget is $500-$525 (taxes and OS included)
In what country are you purchasing your parts?
United States
Post a draft of your potential build here (specific parts please). Consider formatting your parts list. Don't ask to be spoonfed a build (read the rules!).
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Athlon Quad Core FM2+ | $95.63 @ Amazon
Graphics Card | XFX PCI-Express Video Card R7-360P-2SF5 | $101.47 @ Amazon
Motherboard | Gigabyte AMD FM2+ Micro ATX | $49.99 @ Amazon
Memory | Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB | $34.99 @ Amazon
Case w/ Power Supply | Rosewill Ultra High Gloss Finished MicroATX Computer Case with 400W ATX 2.2 12V Power Supply, Black R363-M-BK | $56.64 @ Amazon
|| Total
| | $338.72"
Provide any additional details you wish below.
I really only want this build to be able to run League of Legends and also be able to record with no drop in FPS or in setting. My goal is to have it on high settings as well. I am a big newbie at computer building so this is a pre-build that I want to use because it is cheap. If you have any suggestions that I should change a part out or if I forgot something let me know, I'm only running 8gbs of ram but I might want to run 16 if it will help the recording while playing. Also another question, can I mix ram? Two different ram sticks of different brands? My guess is no but if someone could tell me that would be great. I already have a SSD that I'm going to have installed also but didn't put in the build.
Side note I do no know how to choose the OS. I want to go with Windows 7 but everywhere I look it's about $100, any solution to this would be great thanks.
Yo what is this article, it's made a list of the top 5 pre-built gaming PC's and they are all by the same brand, are they just the only competitive pre-built manufacturer?
Anyway, quick amazon US search (amazon isn't even the cheapest place for a lot of these parts) shows that all those parts are worth maybe 460 dollars (plus a case and windows which you can get for free) they also don't list any of the models/brands so I assume that means they are terrible, on the amazon search I get legit brands like EVGA for the PSU. See for yourself: https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GAMING-GTX-960-2G/dp/B00SAYDRP8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473949393&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Nvidia+GTX+960+2GB+GDDR5+Video+Card
https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-DDR3-Micro-Motherboard-GA-78LMT-USB3/dp/B009FC3YJ8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473949409&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=amd+760g
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-FD6300WMHKBOX-FX-6300-6-Core-Processor/dp/B009O7YORK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473949427&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=fx-6300
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-PC3-12800-240-Pin-BLS8G3D1609DS1S00/dp/B006YG9E7O/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473949445&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=8gb+ram
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-WHITE-Warranty-Supply-100-W1-0500-KR/dp/B00H33SFJU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473949459&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=500w+psu
https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Cache-Desktop-Drive-WD10EZEX/dp/B0088PUEPK/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473949474&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=1tb+hdd
You said you don't have a lot of money so I would definitely just build your own, other people have linked to subreddits that can tell you what components are best for the money for what you're going to be using it for, wouldn't be surprised if you could be playing CS:GO at 300 fps on a 450 dollar computer. When you buy a pre-built you are basically paying the manufacturer an extra 30% for them to build it for you, which is like 150 dollars in this case, for what would take you a couple of hours, idk anyone who's time is worth that much, you also lose the ability to save money by cutting costs in certain areas, you don't need a sick GPU to play CS:GO afaik for example.
Just order a new 8GB stick. I had seen that Server req 4GB but hadn't though about the need for more VM's.
I order this: RAM
Could I swap to this ram instead and order it from Amazon? I have quite a few Amazon gift cards that I could use.
Do you get any artifacting by any chance?
16GB may help fix the issue. Just roll back drivers to an older version. TBH, a single 8GB is cheaper, why didn't you go for that?
http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-PC3-12800-240-Pin-BLS8G3D1609DS1S00/dp/B006YG9E7O/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1457825590&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=8gb+ram
thanks for replies i'll check out those two cards
Is it worth sticking an extra 8gb RAM in as well? could i get this 8gb stick to go along with my 2x4gb?
I did this no more then two months ago all sourced from Amazon with prime shipping plus a 10% amazon employee discount which literally just covered tax cost in Seatttle which is 9.5% This is what I wound up getting, runs everything great. I'm overclocking at 4.3 with 55c temps completely stable and having zero issues. Playing most games on Very High settings at 60fps+ Streaming at 720p with 30fps cap. GW2, League of Legends, Shadows of Morder, The Witcher 2, Borderlands, etc...
Case: Rosewill ATX Mid Tower ~$40
Mobo: MSI 970A-G46 ~$75
CPU: AMD FX-6300 ~$117
Cooler:Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO ~$33
GPU:PNY GTX 750Ti ~$130
RAM:Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB ~$72
Monitor:BenQ GW2255 21.5" ~$120
Sub Total: $587
NOTES: This does not include the cost of HHD or SSD, Operating System, or peripherals. I leave this up to you depending on your needs but this is a solid base leaving room for more ram, hard drive etc. I wound up getting a headset, keyboard, mouse and webcam as well as a 1TB HDD wound up at $900ish range.
Hey man, I'm just gonna upgrade my computer instead. let's just forgot about that crappy graphic card. I'm thinking about keeping the cpu (i7), cpu cooler (H80), ram (https://www.amazon.com/Ballistix-Single-PC3-12800-240-Pin-Memory/dp/B006YG9E7O), and the power supply ( 80 Plus bronze, PS 750BSM). Should I change out the motherboard? What graphic card should I buy that could run ultra setting Overwatch around 100 fps or above?
Yes, though you can get the exact same stick from Amazon for a few dollars less.
Thanks for the quick reply. I believe I have this RAM. I would like to play on high to ultra settings on most games. I've also been eyeing a new 1080p 144hz monitor.
Just realised you stated you were German, I happen to be going through a proxy server in Munich right now so I had a look on Amazon.de and found this: https://www.amazon.de/Ballistix-Sport-PC3-12800-UDIMM-240-Pin/dp/B006YG9E7O/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1502105546&amp;sr=1-4
I'd go for that, and you should have no compatibilty issues with it
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-PC3-12800-240-Pin-BLS8G3D1609DS1S00/dp/B006YG9E7O/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1481487320&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=8gb+ram
This one should be good enough
I have this RAM https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-PC3-12800-240-Pin-BLS8G3D1609DS1S00/dp/B006YG9E7O/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1480707596&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=crucial+ballistix+sport+8gb
I find these 2 from a local shop
http://www.vatanbilgisayar.com/crucial-8gb-ballistix-tactical-ddr3-1600mhz-cl8-15v-pc-ram.html#genel-bakis
http://www.vatanbilgisayar.com/crucial-8gb-ballistix-sport-xt-ddr3-1600mhz-cl9-15v-pc-ram.html#genel-bakis
Should I buy the CL9 one or the CL8 one? Or order the same stick from Amazon?
AMD A10-Series APU A10-7850K: $130
Gigabyte AMD FM2+ A68H: $50
8GB DDR3 ram: $35
EVGA 500 PSU: $40
VIVO ATX Mid Tower Computer Gaming PC Case: $38
Total cost: $308 before taxes and shipping.
Yea this one.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006YG9E7O/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
A few questions
To do crossfire do I need the same exact graphics card?
I currently have this RAM. What specs do I need match when I look to upgrade? Also if I get two 4gb sticks would I run those dual core? and would they need to match the specs of the RAM I have now?
Yup i think i will just stick to this one thanks.
I'll give it a try. I was able to play for about two hours with no crash which is good but also driving me crazy because I can't pinpoint a single cause. I was hoping it was some sort of animation issue, maybe the birds mod, or something that I could trace.
Ram: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006YG9E7O?psc=1&amp;redirect=true&amp;ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
I'm doubtful it is the card because I tried playing hi-res textures disabled and with all post-processing disabled and my SPM read the same and I crashed similarly.
Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 R9-290A-EDFD 4GB 512-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Double Dissipation Edition Video Card
The RAM I have
could get cheaper ram like this http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006YG9EEW/?tag=pcpapi-20
could get cheaper shit if OP doesn't want to overclock.
i would recommend getting windows 8.
-100 dollar budget.
Prime day has an SSD with 480 GB for 96. Jump on that or get a 212 EVO (stock cooler is missing a pushpin. Works OK but worries me) and upgrade RAM. (I have 8 GB DDR3 and Prime day offers 16 GB DDR3 for 46 or so)
SSD:
https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-2-5-Inch-Height-SDSSDHII-480G-G25/dp/B00M8ABFX6/ref=sr_1_1?s=prime-day&amp;psr=PD16&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1468339195&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=SSD
RAM:
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-PC3-12800-240-Pin-BLS2KIT8G3D1609DS1S00/dp/B006YG9EEW/ref=sr_1_2?s=prime-day&amp;psr=PD16&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1468339060&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=CPU+cooler
Nah, just grab the cheapest. Like this one on sale right now.
Sure, but it's two years old...
Intel G3220-dual core on a ASUS H871-PLUS MoBo (with 16GB DDR3) in a SilverStone Tek Premium Mini-ITX and eight 2TB WD NAS drives.
Running FreeNAS.
I got 2 8gb ddr3 ram sticks https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006YG9EEW/
Want to upgrade my ram. 8gb doesn't cut it anymore. I currently have crucial ballistix and was thinking about getting the same but in 2x8gb. But I'm also looking at some Kingston hyperx
Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB Kit (8GBx2) DDR3 1600 MT/s (PC3-12800) CL9 @1.5V UDIMM 240-Pin Memory BLS2KIT8G3D1609DS1S00 https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B006YG9EEW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_w0guxbEAXH04W
Kingston HyperX Fury 16GB Kit (2x8GB) 1866MHz DDR3 CL10 DIMM (HX318C10FBK2/16), Black https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00J8E8Y5C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_49guxbM6F9TD1
Thoughts on which one to go with?
I upgraded from 8GB to 16GB ram back in January for BO3. It fixed a lot of the freezes and crashes. The RAM usage is just badly optimized for BO3. I got the Crucial Ballistix Sport for around 70 euros. Also try turning on Vsync and cap FPS to 60. If I don't have these options enabled even with a GTX 1080 the fps stutters up and down like a yoyo.
ok I was looking for one that was specifically on amazon. Because I trust that merchant when making purchases. Ill keep looking to see if I find a good one from amazon if not I will consider purchasing from a different merchant that sells the one you suggested I appreciate this I was also wondering about these 3 types of ram is their any difference I will have to find a motherboard that can take the one I choose.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cml16gx3m2a1600c10
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31600c9d16gar
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006YG9EEW/?tag=pcpapi-20
I have this https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-PC3-12800-240-Pin-BLS2KIT8G3D1609DS1S00/dp/B006YG9EEW
So just 16GB of ram but could go up to 32GB.
Do you think this is worth trying out for game loading or anything else?
I currently have 16gb of RAM (2x8) in my computer. I'm looking to get 2 more sticks of 8gb RAM for better video editing performance. Do they have to be the exact same as the RAM I already have?
this is what I have currently if it matters.
I personally would reccomend the Crucial Ballistix Sport as I know that the evo 212 will fit next to it (as the ram is low profile) and I have used it in 2 builds so far with no trouble at all.
Link : http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-PC3-12800-BLS2KIT8G3D1609DS1S00-BLS2CP8G3D1609DS1S00/dp/B006YG9EEW
Sorry for the late reply! So my motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H
Now tell me if I'm on the right track here:
Looking it up, it shows that the motherboard can support: DDR3 2800(OC)/1600/1333/1066 MHz RAM sticks up to 32 gigs.
The RAM from Amazon that I linked is DDR4. So that means that my current motherboard will not support this new RAM. Is that correct?
So I found 3 more on Amazon that look to be compatible. Can you let me know your thoughts on these?
RAM 1
RAM 2
RAM 3
Obviously by looking at my motherboard, I built this comp about
6-7 years ago. So I'm guessing upgrading my motherboard and then buying some DDR4 RAM would be best, but upgrading a motherboard sounds very complicated. Thoughts - and would I see a big difference?
Thanks!
EDIT: Also, another quick question: apparently I have 4 RAM slots. If I buy this new 16 gigs in the form of 2, 8 gigs sticks, can I fill all slots for a total of 24 gigs of RAM? So the slots would be 4-4-8-8. Or do all sticks have to be the same make/model/size? And if I am able to use all at once, should they be in any specific order?
How important is RAM in my computer? All I'm going to do is play games at decent enough settings to get 60 FPS and edit videos. Will this suffice? https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-PC3-12800-240-Pin-BLS2KIT8G3D1609DS1S00/dp/B006YG9EEW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1496752508&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=desktop+memory The second part of my question is is this part compatible with any motherboard or do I need a certain kind to use?
will this fit ? pretty good ram kits ...
I originally had corsair vengance. I replaced it with Crucial Ballistix
If I were to keep my current motherboard would this ram be okay with it https://primenow.amazon.com/dp/B006YG9EEW?psc=1&amp;pd_rd_wg=7v590&amp;pd_rd_i=B006YG9EEW&amp;pd_rd_w=QAUVS&amp;m=AZLXNO6O5HUZG&amp;pd_rd_r=1P9V87C9A38VMC9Y3W81&amp;ref_=pn_sc_ec_0_img_b_vw_0_AZLXNO6O5H
Hi all,
Over the weekend I ordered this RAM here. It is DDR3-1600 Mhz. However, I just realized now that my rather dated CPU (i5-2320)'s memory controller supports 1066 and 1333 Mhz. I don't mind if the RAM downclocks (is that the correct term?) as I've seen that the frequencies don't actually affect speed all that much, but will this mismatch be an incompatibility issue?
16gb crucial ballistic DDR3.
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-PC3-12800-240-Pin-BLS2KIT8G3D1609DS1S00/dp/B006YG9EEW
Mine might be a little outdated (I just copied and pasted from my paper build a year ago)... I initially built it as a Hackintosh before repurposing it as my travel Rift computer. Travels well in a carry-on Pelican-style hard case with the Rift next to it.
Case $43
Silverstone SG13B http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163274&amp;cm_re=Silverstone_SG13B-_-11-163-274-_-Product
MB $95
Gigabyte LGA 1150 H97
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KATHCD4
CPU $173.59
i5 4590
CPU Cooler $43
http://www.amazon.com/Noctua-Low-Profile-Cooler-Retail-Cooling/dp/B009VCAJ7W
GPU (already owned):
GTX 680
PSU $63
ATX 550w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151136&amp;cm_re=psu_550_watt-_-17-151-136-_-Product
RAM $100
16GB Crucial Ballistix Sport http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006YG9EEW
240GB SSD $95
2TB HDD $80
http://www.amazon.com/Green-2TB-Desktop-Hard-Drive/dp/B008YAHW6I
I took your suggestion and changed the RAM to this:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006YG9EEW/?tag=pcpapi-20
I really like this brand: Corsair Vengeance Red 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory (CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10R) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008E3M4QS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_sP.Owb28FR6MA
But this is good too: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB Kit (8GBx2) DDR3 1600 MT/s (PC3-12800) UDIMM Memory BLS2KIT8G3D1609DS1S00/ BLS2CP8G3D1609DS1S00 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006YG9EEW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_uQ.Owb80Z52NP
I was just making a reference to how much extra money can actually get you. Would you pay $40 for glowy lights?
Here's 16GB of DDR3-1600, CAS 9 RAM for $95.
Is this laptop or desktop ram?
Edit: I am going to assume desktop, I personally would look into the fowling 3
* Kingston HyperX Beast
* Corsair Vengeance Pro
* Crucial Ballistix Sport
Just a couple of thoughts
Cool! Then would that mean a set of ram like this would work?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006YG9EEW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
or this
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008E3M4QS/ref=psdc_172500_t3_B006YG9EEW
Or do you think it would be better/faster if I were to get another 8gb stick (2 4gb sticks) to add to my current system to get 16gb of total ram?
I've seen two options in a quick search:
The doubt here is: would be going to dual modules instead of a triple module configuration be a bad option? The price is quite interesting for the Crucial memory.
For my own reference:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1iI6B
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1iQO9
Newer favorite:
And done!
If you're doing some overclocking, change the motherboard. The Extreme4 is not very good at it. I would opt for something like a Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H or a Biostar TZ77XE3.
As for ram, the ram you picked has a large heatspreader and might prevent you from installing the cooler with the fan in push configuration. Something like Crucial's Ballistic Sport is cheaper, lower profile (won't interfere with heatsink), and has slightly tighter timings than the Corsair RAM you picked.
Lastly, power supply. Do you actually need 750W? Do you plan on running SLI in the future? If you aren't, I would downgrade the power supply to a 500-600W unit. Otherwise, a cheaper alternative to a 750W power supply is the Rosewill Hive 750. Hardware Secrets reviewed a 650W version and gave it a great rating.
That memory should work fine. I'm running 32GB of this in both my TS140s and they're great. You can even mix the ECC/non-ECC without a problem (though the ECC will disable its ECC functionality when mixed). The 140s really don't play well with higher speed ram. I'd avoid getting 1866+ and stick with the 1600.
I have a couple of Dell Intel Nics in my 140s. A Quad and two Duals and they've worked wonderfully under both KVM and Hyper-V. I know some people have had issues with actual Intel branded NICs (not sure about specific part numbers), but I've seen no problems with the Dells. No idea what the difference is, but I'd think the one you linked would be a good bet.
I recently foudn out my memory sticks are defective and I'm in need of replacing them.
Will these sticks : https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B006YG9EEW/
work with a ASUS P8Z77-V LE LGA 1155 ?
I have the same model your planning on purchasing (Xeon 1225v3) and I have 2 sets of these (totalling 32GB) in it right now. They work great, however I haven't looked to see if they have been under clocked because of voltage.
There is a small amount of setup involved. It is within the realm of my tolerance for such things, but barely. You need a NUC, a stick of memory, a high quality usb thumb drive, plexpass and any other crappy thumb drive or external disk. You may need a usb keyboard for one time setup stuff.
NUC, there is a newer better faster generation out now but this is the one I bought: http://smile.amazon.com/Intel-NUC5CPYH-Graphics-2-5-Inch-BOXNUC5CPYH/dp/B00XPVRR5M
RAM, do not go crazy here. It does one thing. This matches the above NUC: http://smile.amazon.com/Kingston-Technology-1600MHz-PC3-12800-KVR16LS11/dp/B00CQ35GYE
FLIRC: http://smile.amazon.com/FLIRC-FL-09028-Universal-Receiver-Components/dp/B00BB0ETW8
OS disk: http://smile.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-Low-Profile-SDCZ43-032G-G46-Version/dp/B00LLER2CS/
Put it all together, program your FLIRC on your desktop computer (laptop, whatever), copy embedded plex onto your crappy usb stick, boot from it, install onto your fancy usb stick, and off you go. Configure Plex for software decoding. It's in the video options somewhere.
The newer generation may have better CEC support. The one linked above does not have it.
This is neither free nor entirely uncomplicated, however it does avoid transcoding which is exchanging electricity for convenience. I have 1 client and 1 server. (Though now I use my TiVo BOLT which I highly recommend. The NUC is now extra.)
This is what I got for my R1 to upgrade it to 8gb total. The 1.35v is important.
Kingston Technology 4GB 1600MHz DDR3L PC3-12800 1.35V Non-ECC CL11 SODIMM Intel Laptop Memory KVR16LS11/4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CQ35GYE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_0dbpzbKHQECVG
Intel celeron nuc: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HVKLSVC/
Ram (4gb): http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CQ35GYE/
Disk: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C9TECFO/
Sidecar: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ELQZD10/
Cost of RAM + Disk: $83.99, leaving $216. If we use the Celeron NUC, we have $81 left, enough for a small SSD or Wifi. Bump the cost up to $350 and we have enough for an i3 + wifi when we use the i3 NUC ( http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HOJAVDG/ ).
The SSD can easily hold an OS if you're using it purely for the OS, but there's some Intel trickery you can use to make it into a cache, or just use it as a storage disk for "Things that are small". Like uh, Business Documents. Plus, it's upgradable to anyone with a screwdriver and a copy of the manual. Plus, the NUCs make the little intel Ding-Da-dun-da-ding sound whenever you open the packaging.
Oh, and 1080p up to 4k. A friend of mine uses a NUC to run his dual 4k coding setup. Oh, and play quake in glorious 4k 120fps.
I've never actually tried to put DDR3 into a DDR3L slot, but I don't think that RAM won't work.. you need DDR3L. I have an Intel NUC that uses DDR3L and I remember reading that normal RAM will not work at all.
This will work just fine for you: http://www.amazon.ca/Kingston-Technology-1600MHz-PC3-12800-KVR16LS11/dp/B00CQ35GYE/
PC3-12800 = The theoretical maximum bandwidth, or the volume of data that can be passed through the RAM per second.. the higher the better. The number is megabytes/second (12800MB/s aka 12.8GB/s). Doesn't matter all that much for general computing.. all RAM is screaming fast.
CL10 = CAS Latency of 10. It's a complex subject, but this is just one of the RAM timings.. the lower the CAS latency, the better. 9 to 11 is pretty typical, and the difference is honestly pretty negligible
I threw this one in. Works great. http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Technology-1600MHz-PC3-12800-KVR16LS11/dp/B00CQ35GYE
the notebook needs DDR3L (LowVoltage) RAM - 1,35V . i do not know exactly if the 1,35-1,5 rams will work.
i can say that f.e. this http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-KVR16LS11-Arbeitsspeicher-Non-ECC-204-pin/dp/B00CQ35GYE will defnitly work.
I have this setup now. I'm in the last year of my computer science degree and this does everything I need it to. Not bad for $600.
Well, a new 4gb of RAM will run you only about $20, see here
Some of the used ones cost about as much as $17.
If you only have 1 slot for ram, an 8gb card costs about 40 bucks.
It's expandable, so you can just buy more ram. You can double it for about $30, like with this one here. It's really easy to install.
You can customize it through Lenovo's site to come with more RAM, but you will be spending considerably more.
If you want to search around for RAM, you should search for 204-pin SO-DIMM DDR3L (low voltage, 1.35V) ram clocked at 1600MHz. You can get 4GB for about $30 and 8GB for about $50 - like those listed at [Newegg here](http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&amp;IsNodeId=1&amp;N=100007608 600006178 600000279 600000410 600559388 600213066 4814 600000399)
If this is your laptop.
Then you can apparently install this to double your memory.
It is internal though.
I'm looking online right now and found theses three. I guess that could work.
https://www.amazon.ca/Intel-BOXNUC6CAYH-NUC-Kit-Component-BOXNUC6CAYH/dp/B01MSZTD8N/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=intel+nuc&amp;qid=1555001347&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-3
https://www.amazon.ca/Kingston-Digital-120GB-SA400S37-120G/dp/B01N6JQS8C/ref=pd_aw_fbt_147_img_2/145-3958742-3754805?_encoding=UTF8&amp;pd_rd_i=B01N6JQS8C&amp;pd_rd_r=bd72db35-5c79-11e9-a9d2-272f68b5c19c&amp;pd_rd_w=lZcIq&amp;pd_rd_wg=XJuaP&amp;pf_rd_p=318fc841-c654-436b-9e98-a4e2694ba626&amp;pf_rd_r=MFNKRJK4MCWAVX6BTVS3&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=MFNKRJK4MCWAVX6BTVS3
https://www.amazon.ca/Kingston-Technology-1600MHz-PC3-12800-KVR16LS11/dp/B00CQ35GYE/ref=pd_aw_fbt_147_img_3/145-3958742-3754805?_encoding=UTF8&amp;pd_rd_i=B00CQ35GYE&amp;pd_rd_r=bd72db35-5c79-11e9-a9d2-272f68b5c19c&amp;pd_rd_w=lZcIq&amp;pd_rd_wg=XJuaP&amp;pf_rd_p=318fc841-c654-436b-9e98-a4e2694ba626&amp;pf_rd_r=MFNKRJK4MCWAVX6BTVS3&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=MFNKRJK4MCWAVX6BTVS3
Here is a blue one: PCPartPicker Lowest Price http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004QBUL1C/?tag=pcpapi-20
Then a black one off amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-240-Pin-Platforms-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9/dp/B004CRSM4I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1395951796&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=corsair+vengeance+8gb
And a black off newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233144
Can you show me where it is $60 BNIB? If you do, I will apologize and admit being wrong. I checked the prices before posting, but hey if I am wrong I will apologize and accept that I am wrong.
edit: please just show me a BNIB $60 2x4gb Corsair Vengeance RAM. So either I can accept my mistake and look stupid for going off on you. Or you can just accept that you were wrong.
Yes but that doesn't even begin to address the rest of the issues, such as the lack of being able to offload metadata to external storage or even internal expandable storage (SD card). That immediately takes the 16GB Shield out of the running completely because it just doesn't have enough internal space for transcoding and metadata for a decent size library. Now you're talking $300 for the Pro box and $50 for the remote. Even then, people are claiming it can do 3 and 4 1080p transcodes at once (or not reading posts when I ask "how many 1080p transcodes can it do?"...), in reality the passmark score you suggested shows that can maybe, barely transcode 2 streams. The hype is overblown, and you can't even do any normal PC tasks with the box if you wanted to (FTP server for direct file access? Network-wide backup? You can do these with a PC). The bottom line is buying this box is setting yourself up for disappointment both now AND potentially in the future, assuming you want a functional Plex experience.
I get there's a market for smaller boxes these days, but simply put you can do better at that price, and get something that works today.
While ~$350 can easily get you an i3-6100 build, you can even go the NUC route for that much with an i5 Mini PC for $309 (plus $19 for RAM and $39 for a small M.2 drive) that gives a passmark score of 4000+. That gives you a 2x 1080p transcode $367 box that'll meet or exceed the shield's performance dollar for dollar AND give you the options for full windows, moving the metadata directories off-device, and running other server-related tasks. With that sort of option, I simply don't see a point in buying a half-baked Shield if you don't care for Gamestream, and even then it's iffy and dependent on the person's needs, since other options like Moonlight exist.
EDIT: replaced 2.5" SSD with M.2 drive after realizing the Mini PC didn't have a standard 2.5" slot.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LDLVAO/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1 I have 8GB (4GBx2), unopened for $65
> Is this your first day learning about building computers?
No, but chances are I've been doing it many, many times longer than you considering your very first build was only done a week ago :)
Bud, let's not resort to ad hominems. The fact of the matter is that I am not attacking you. I am saying you could've done a lot better for the price.
When you build a gaming computer and you come to /r/buildapc for a performance evaluation, it's not hard to see that the build I put in another comment with a 390 performs far, far better for games. Here's some synthetic benchmarks for comparison. Here is how it compares to a 960 and a 380. They didn't even bother including the 390 because it's so far beyond it that it's crazy.
> It's for older games at 1080p and I get 60 FPS in every single one, so I am satisfied
Because a 280X/7970 is about $50 cheaper on average, has more VRAM, and performs far, far better.
>Memory: Its actually 1600 speed and once again, works just fine for MY needs, not YOUR needs, but MINE. Price is average for that type of RAM as well.
??? That RAM is made to be OC'ed; that's why it has heatsinks. Just take it and tweak it in the BIOS in about 2 seconds and BAM 1600 Mhz. You overpaid. It's about $37 for 8 GB of RAM. Just get two of these.
>once I want to upgrade
Kabylake will be out by the time you want to upgrade most likely, or Zen. Kind of a moot point.
>PSU: There isn't much to say here; YOU DONT SKIMP ON THE POWER SUPPLY
But you don't go overkill. A 500W EVGA PSU for $40 would have accomplished the same thing and would be just as reliable in real usage, especially with a power draw that low. It's just waste.
>Maybe I want an i3 and a 950, and you want an i5 and a 290. That's great! Go and buy an i5 and a 290!
Well that's not the problem, buddy. The problem is that the i5 and the 390 destroy the 950 and it does it cheaper. So your point is aesthetics. You paid a couple hundred for aesthetics, but the point we are making is that you could have gotten better gaming experience with the same amount or even less money. That's why this sub exists. This sub really isn't about aesthetic elements as much; there are other enthusiast places you can check for that.
TL; DR: We are concerned primarily with price/performance, and that is what we criticize about the build.
Some folks like Alienware and that's all fine and dandy, but it could be a bit of a waste.
You have no idea what you're talking about. That's 2666Mhz CL19. Do you have any clue how far that is from 3600Mhz CL16? Do you honestly believe that the slight benefit of having only 2 DIMMs will magically allow them to OC that high?
u/CapableWizard, I would recommend this. It's less expensive and much better performing. However, you're never going to see 64GB of 3600Mhz CL16 outside of highly binned B-die, which is out of your budget.
Get a 2600 which will roflstopm the 9400f along a cheap b450. Also theres cas 16 3000 mhz corsair ram for cheaper https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B2Y1N8B/?tag=pcpapi-20
I would suggest the following upgrades to begin with (first 3 at once) and you can add more later on.
Overall cost: 1003€ ( or 1014€ )
Might want to lower your price slightly as you can get it from Amazon for under £100.
Pair that with any good 3600 mhz RAM, either the Corsair or the Crucial .
Can you squeeze your wallet and get those? Or the cl14 version of tridentz?
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B06XFT7DF9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_jbJ1Bb13XS5AS
Latency is pretty important. If you get the cl14 wuould be better. (not from another world, but it will be better) if not. Cl16 are pretty nice. I got cl14 tridentz rgb from amazon warehouse (refurbished) and they will reach me tomorrow, from 214€. 2x8gb. Maybe you can find something similar. Here in spain tech stuff are more expensive than in USA. I don't know about canada.
You haven't seen prices lately, have you? Memory has tanked, you can buy 3200 at the same price as 3000 if you look a bit
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Case in point:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07BJJK753/?tag=pcp0f-21
Hyper X HX432 3200 - 2x8gb £74
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As zenthroaway17 mention, i had misread this.
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Low latency 3200 is still not cheap, best i could find was:
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06XFT7DF9/?tag=pcp0f-21
G.SKILL F4-3200C14D-16GFX - 143.99
Samsung B die, some people have clocked these beasts quite high, but yeah roughly a 60% premium for the privilege
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https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2666MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0123ZC44Y/ref=sxin_3_ac_d_rm
There ya go. Much better timings, and only a few dollars more.
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