(Part 2) Best hvac products according to redditors
We found 2,716 Reddit comments discussing the best hvac products. We ranked the 931 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the products ranked 21-40. You can also go back to the previous section.
I've been looking at internet-enabled home devices (think Nest) and Cloud-anything has been a deal breaker for me EVERYTIME! Hell, the first-gen Nest's had the same issue - "Thanks for supporting us at the beginning, now fuck you! ;)"
I've managed to find some really nice hardware for my Thermostat, Sprinkler Controller (though I bought the 12-station controller) as well as hackable Wifi 120v (or 240v) light and switch controllers for $5-8 each!! And I totally forgot about my OpenGarage!
Each of these have open "REST" APIs that accept LAN requests to their local webserver (e.g. 192.168.1.15/api/do/something?key=secret&on=true) so they are wide-open to program against.
These carbon filters are used mostly in commercial spaces. In the United States they are commonly found in marijuana grow houses to move air outside. A carbon filter removes a high percentage of odors to reduce the risk of detection.
I like them in my home because I'm not a fan of buying other scented products that "mask" smells. When I walk into my home and my carbon filter is on it smells clean. I'm not sure if that clean smell is due to something from the carbon? Either way it's a clean, crisp smell that many people comment on and cannot be replicated by chemicals.
Cons: inline fans are loud and the system is a little bulky. Noise can be reduced by adding ducting to the end or buying insulated fans as referenced below.
Pros: I breath amazing air. You can cook/smoke inside your home and it's still going to smell amazing!
Filter: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008NYF8S4/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Quiet fan: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00EIRU2YU/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If you have big windows, buy some window film. I bought this and applied it to all my windows/sliding doors this spring. The downside is that it's a somewhat mirror finish.
Last year during the July when it was over 100 like every day, my electricity bill was about $200. This year, after applying that, the highest my bill ever got was $124. Also, make sure your AC is running efficiently. I had a tune up, and the only thing that was wrong was the fins in my AC unit were a little bit clogged. Blew it out with a hose (from the inside towards the outside. You'll need to take off the fan to do this).
Or a thermostat lock box for $15.99
Mr. Heater F232017 MH9BXRV Buddy... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DD6C4MY?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
Just ran a test on this: one standard propane bottle ran full heat around 4 hours & could easily keep a large tent warm. Listed as safe for indoors & I didn’t catch any gas smell. Unit is pretty well built & costs around $75.
I also got an adapter to run full sized BBQ propane tanks. Seems a decent “worse case” supplemental heater, but would cut thru your propane supply pretty quick.
Absolutely, here we go:
Essential Hardware
$80 Clones - $20 from dispensary.
$325 Lights: Horticulture Lighting Group 260 QB LED Kit
$70 2' x 4' x 5' Mylar tent
$90 4" Inline duct fan and Carbon Filter
$10 - Ducting/Clamps from ACE
$21 Osculating Fan
Already on hand: Box Fan
$25 [Humidifier] (https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sunbeam-Warm-Mist-Humidifier-SWM6000-BWM/32664862)
$45Dehumidifier$184" inline duct booster fan$13 Ph Meter
$12 TDS PPM meter
$9 Soil Moisture, Light, Ph meter - Does it's job
$9 Ph Control Kit
$14 Ph Calibration solution
$6 Spray Bottles (Did not use these much, only very early during transplanting.)
$7 for 30ctStarter grow bags$18 Hygrometer for Temp/Humidity
$8 for 6ct 5 gal Smart Pot knockoff
$40 - Soil: Two bags of Happy Frog. Ocean forest was sitting around.
Nutrients: $165
$13 - Scrog net: for something like 50-100ft of plastic garden fence from Home Depot. Using a lot of it for a garden.
$15 - Miscelaneous: Eyedroppers, duct tape, zip ties, and odds and ends: Call it $15.
So to total that all out we're looking just over 1000 that I spent, could have kept it under $950 if I had not purchased the small duct fan or dehumidifier. Also: Soil and nutrients for $205. Could work that down to under $150 by dropping a couple unnecessary yet desirable nutrients.
Sorry for the formatting! I'm going to do a big post write up and this is a great place to start at least. Thanks for the motivation.
A lot of people including me use lanterns or propane heaters. There's usually enough airflow not to harm you. In my older shanty I even used to have a wood burning stove in it. It was a little dude for a wood burner but it kicked ass.
This is the heater I use most:
https://www.amazon.com/Mr-Heater-F232017-Indoor-Safe-Portable/dp/B01DD6C4MY
Sure:
Honestly, you are much better off grabbing everything from amazon and save over 500 dollars. I bought these before:
Tent (200 with taxes and shipping): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H9P51LW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Lights (300 with taxes and shipping):
http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GLK1000LS24-Digital-Dimmable/dp/B005ECZVXK/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1407976749&sr=1-1&keywords=1000+watt+grow+light+system
And then you have money for two fans:
http://www.amazon.com/LEDwholesalers-GYO2402-6-Inch-Hydroponic-Booster/dp/B003YFADW8/ref=sr_1_18?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1407976749&sr=1-18&keywords=1000+watt+grow+light+system
And a carbon filter (this one comes with a fan, so you only need another fan to bring air inside the tent:
http://www.amazon.com/VenTech-IF6CF620-Inline-Virgin-Charcoal/dp/B0052ZPMAG/ref=sr_1_10?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1407976749&sr=1-10&keywords=1000+watt+grow+light+system
I never bought a hydroponics system before, but amazon search yields some good systems for less than 700:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_10?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=ebb%20hydroponic&sprefix=ebb+hydrop%2Caps%2C227&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Aebb%20hydroponic
If you buy the system you describe, you might still need a tent or at least a carbon filter. I think you end up saving yourself money and you can get exactly what you need and add extra lights, etc as you move forward.
https://i.imgur.com/fs09cfI.jpg
I carry this in my Fiat 500e in winter. A Mr. Heater Buddy (sold at most hardware stores and Amazon) to make sure I never end up with no heat even if I have no power. This little heater puts out up to 9000 btu's so it'll roast you right out of the car if you put it on high, but even with just the pilot light running it'll keep you from freezing to death and the low setting is good right down to -20c.
And now to answer all the Negative Nellies who jumped all over this last time I posted:
a) No you will NOT die - it has a CO sensor and will automatically shut itself off if the oxygen level in your car gets low. Ive slept with it on in my car. It works just fine. Just crack a window open and quite hyperventilating, ya nancy.
b) Yes it has an auto shutoff if it tips over.
c) No, its not illegal to carry propane in your car - you can legally carry gas in a gas can and that's WAY more dangerous than a propane bottle.
d) No, a propane tank won't explode if you're in an accident. Please watch the Mythbusters episode where they TRY to blow up a propane tank with a high powered bullet - it doesnt work.
e) No, it won't void your insurance if you're carrying propane anymore than carrying cigarette lighters, a butane camp stove, fireworks or charging your cellphone or computer (which sometimes catch on fire). Quit making shit up - y'all need to let go of your momma's hands and try taking a couple of steps outside the basement all by yourself. You'd be surprised how freeing it is LOL
It reminds me of a thermostat guard. I can't quite see how this would function as one, but it could be something similar. It has just enough access for some functions, but blocks others maybe.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BPGP6M
I installed this in my 3 seasons room this year. It's not the prettiest, but I mounted the inline fan outside underneath the overhang of my roof so it won't get wet. I ran ducting into the room and attached the filter to it. The fan is rated at 442 CFM, so it moves quite a bit of air. So far it's been amazing. No smell leaks into my house any more, and the room doesn't get too smokey since it also acts as an exhaust fan.
I second this. This is what I use to filter my 3x3 tent.
All-Filters CP-6005 Cut to Fit Carbon Pad for Air Purifiers https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000U204W2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_ypR-Bb4QTMBKY
VIVOSUN 4 inch Inline Duct Booster Fan 100 CFM, Low Noise & Extra Long 5.5' Grounded Power Cord https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C82SYZ0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_uqR-Bb4D3ADEY
And just used a hose clamp to clamp a piece of the carbon filter over the intake of the fan. So it sucks air from the tent outside. Keeps my tent at perfect temps and scrubs smell.
I got some thermal bubble wrap last week and made a cover for my tank, which I recently upgrade from 10G to 29G. I was shocked at how effective it was! I had three UTH heaters that I cobbled together, but they were still struggling to keep it at 75. After adding the insulation I was able to unplug all but one of them. I was checking on it every half hour or so and went "whoa nelly!" as the temps got to 85 degrees with the same heating setup (they probably would have kept climbing, too!)
My house has gotten down to 68 degrees recently, but the tank is maintained at 80 during the day with 25W lamp and 75 at night (with a warm spot up to 84 and cold spot down to 77 during the day). Planning on plugging in another UTH heater if I need to, if we let the house get a little colder during the winter, especially at night. I can always add panels to the current insulation for emergency situations if I need to as well.
I got the wrap from here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BPAULS There are probably ways to get smaller quantities and/or get it cheaper than $20, but I was also thinking about insulating some basement windows we don't like, so I just went and got 10' of it!
The tank wrapper was a little tricky to make: https://imgur.com/a/7gPYNpH I measured really well, cut accurately and made a box out of it. It wraps all the way around on the sides facing the wall, and wraps 3" over the top (covering the plastic/cords/cord gap, which makes it more escape proof!) and about 5" on the other side to add a little more insulation. I scored the opposite side of the bubble wrap (cut halfway through) when folding the corners -- that way you get a sharp edge instead of an awkward "wrap around." And then just added a little aluminum foil tape to the 3" sections where it attaches to itself in the corners at the top and voila!
To make it really nice, I glued some velcro strips to the black plastic on the tank, and corresponding velcro strips to my thermal box, so I can stick it on and get it really snug and secure. There are a few sticky velcro dots holding it on the top -- I got a little lazy and didn't want to glue anymore :(
Anyway, it took a bit to get it right, but all told, it was only $5 in materials (if you pro-rate the roll of thermal insulation by how much I actually used) and increases the temps by at least 10 degrees F over what I was getting before! Super amazing stuff!
Honestly I thought the same thing, but it was a lot easier than I thought. Without having to wire anything, it was all pretty common handiwork with a drill or a Dremel saw. It's a GardenMate 8 Gal grow bag
Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073NJYCFJ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I used an Apollo Horticulture GL60LED Full Spectrum 180W LED Grow Light
Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FGFW0XO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Fans:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01C82SYZ0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Not sure if this is exactly what you're looking for, but Reflectix is pretty close. I've used it to keep my pot hot and make it easier to hold after cooking, it's decent, but not thermos level insulation.
https://www.amazon.com/Reflectix-BP48010-48-Inch-10-Feet-Insulation/dp/B000BPAULS
If you ever order groceries online (like from Amazon Fresh or Prime Now), you can get this stuff for free from the bags they put your groceries in
You probably don't want blackout curtains, that will absorb all the incident sun light and radiate heat indoors. You want something reflective to reflect the incoming sunlight back out the window. Something like this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KKM8EG/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1944687622&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00CST53LW&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0BFHK527AAVRR79DTKMD
or a simple white solar shade could be helpful.
The purpose of those lines is to create airflow to prevent carbon monoxide poisoning. They function passively, so you should uncap them, for safety sake (or at least make sure a COO monitor is installed... fuck, I don't have one installed....). Notice how one inlet is (or was, or should be) at eye level, and the other is near the floor? That is to make use of when heat rises, the air near the inlet of one will rise out, and the cold air near the bottom of the other will sink, starting a circulating flow. Yes, this chills the basement, but, if it's unfinished that's OK.
a 100k but furnace may use rpoportionatly more air for combustion, but its in a controled space and a very efficient combustion, while the 54K burner will disperse the COO along the heat current it creates meaning you need to remove much much more air to gather all the gasses you should, than with just a sealed vented furnace. Also, there is a difference between inline duct booster fans, which aid in airflow, but lack dynamic pressure, and turbine fans which are both consistant rate and high dynaic pressure (meaning it would be able to pull air from a further distance with less drop in CFM)
These http://www.amazon.com/LEDwholesalers-GYO2402-6-Inch-Hydroponic-Booster/dp/B003YFADW8 won't work,
you'll need this http://www.amazon.com/Active-Air-720-Inline-8-Inch/dp/B002JQ4K1I
or for a quieter operation with better dynamic pressure, this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001I4DHJI/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_2?pf_rd_p=1944687782&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B004C2IWIE&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1V2RCEEAMG31CYMSKC7B
I am not trying to be alarmist, but I know the math off the top of my head, because I've worked with it SOOOoo many times, and as they are for safety, I urge you to heed my warning.
Everything looks good besides the ventilation. That fan lacks the static pressure needed to pull air through a carbon filter. You need something more like this, though I recommend a quality fan if affordable. Also, you want to pull air from the top of the tent. If you pull from the bottom, you are going to have hot, stagnant air above the filter.
You'll probably be alright, but a dimmable power supply is helpful, especially in a small space.
Right I guess what I mean is that you have to keep in mind that your gpu Temps show in celsius but you're reading your ambient Temps in Fahrenheit. So 109 is super hot for a human but is nice and cool for a gpu at only 42 degrees celsius.
There have been lots of posts on r/gpumining where people have done similar set ups to yours. To be honest in this situation having a smaller shed would be more beneficial because it'd be easier to expel the hot air which is the number one most important thing. You don't need to cool the air from the outside you just need circulation of air . You need to install one or two giant exhaust fans in the top of your shed and one or two at the bottom as intakes. Here is exactly what I'm talking about
In this guy's setup, his boxes are small enough that his giant ass exhaust fans actually are strong enough to suck air in the sides so he doesn't even need a separate intake fan. I doubt you'd be able to do the same though because of the size of your shed. I guarantee if you just invest in some quality fans. And I don't mean box fans I mean ones like this that will really start getting fresh air in and hot air out you will be fine and won't need the ac units. Especially because those ac units themselves use a lot of juice I imagine they've got to be wrecking your profits.
Just search on YouTube for "gpu mining shed" or "gpu grow tent" and you'll get a lot of good ideas. One YouTuber in particular id check out is Angry Chicken
I know this is a a complete rebuild but you might consider multiple smaller sheds like in the first link. Smaller enclosures allow for better circulation.
Either way, good luck!
The best inline is one you can buy locally, and has a 3+ year walk-in with broken fan, walk-out with new fan, warranty. Grow/Hydro stores should have this. Also industrial supply. If your inline breaks, you can't wait 3 days for a new one in the mail. Much less sending it away for warranty repair.
If you are in a situation where you need to mail order, Active Air has been solid for me. Three on timers and one on 24/7 duty, no failures in 2+ years. Don't buy anything that looks like this.
I have 2 of these in my house for 2 different zones, and love them. They're not "smart" thermostats, but they have wifi connectivity, and connect using the honeywell "total connect comfort" app you can download on your smart phone, or through their website.
You can pop open the app on your phone, view the current temperature, schedule, and make any changes directly from your phone.
I'm not sure if you can control 2 zones with 1 thermostat, but even if you could you'd need remote sensors and such since the thermostat can only be in 1 location.
Yes you can. This one is rock solid and $78.
Honeywell Home Wi-Fi 7-Day Programmable Thermostat (RTH6580WF), Requires C Wire, Works with Alexa https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Y6M2OUC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_oIdzDbG5DTREV
Great white and Growers Recharge seem to be more popular and well thought of.
Here is a fan with speed controller built into it
Here is my copy paste daily response to people planning on using shit tier LEDs.
> TL;DR Don't waste your cash on shit tier LEDs - buy HPS/MH/CMH if you are short on money.
> LEDs are not better in any measurable way then HID until you get to at least mid tier stuff.
> DE HPS / CMH are close to comparable to COBs. That said I believe the results of lab testing that I've seen show more usable light from Vero / Cree COBs ( and possible Citizen , but I haven't seen as much data on them). The number that you are looking for is the ppfd. This is the photosynthetic photon flux density. It is the measurement of PAR at the canopy and is measured in micromoles per second per meter squared.
> IIRC really good HIDs like Gavita DE HPS or CMH are around 1.7 - 1.8 micromoles per joule and COBs are 1.8-2.2, and quantum board type setups are 2.5+. Shit tier LEDs from amazon (mars hydro , vivaspectra) are like 1.0 or less.
> I'm not saying you can't grow bud with shit tier LEDs I'm saying you will grow more and better bud using HPS of the same $ amount vs shit tier LEDs.
In your example your spending $140 on 10 year old LED tech and getting 264W at the wall which doesn't even come close to the 40 - 50W per SF rule most people use. This $120 400W HPS will crush those Mars lights in yield and quality. This is why I say don't use LEDs unless your ready to spread that wallet wide.
Things to think about later are drying racks, jars, and trimming scissors.
Reflectix would probably work in this scenario as well, not sure how expensive those sun reflectors are.
https://www.amazon.com/Honeywell-CG511A1000-Thermostat-Prevent-Tampering/dp/B000BPGP6M
Do it
Reflectix is this shiny insulation stuff (similar to a car sun visor) you can get at hardware stores. It's really easy to work with and makes great insulated cozys or bags for dehydrated meals.
Here's a quick tutorial on how to make them, again it's pretty straightforward - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FTln2_5Pgo
This is reflectix, if you are decently crafty it's pretty straight forward to make a little thing to put a tupperware in to keep it warm -
https://www.amazon.com/Reflectix-ST16025-Staple-Insulation-Inch/dp/B000BQSYRO/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1496262196&sr=1-1
and Here is the type of tupperware I was mentioning, I've used them as a bowl on many trips and they have always worked great (they have 2 different sizes) - https://www.amazon.com/Ziploc-Twist-Containers-Small-Lids/dp/B003UEGZCA/ref=sr_1_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1496262262&sr=8-2
I recently got a roll of Reflectix to bump up the warmth and protect the air mattress. It folds down small and is very lightweight. But, more than a little more heat, I feel it will take any thorns or other pokey things that might come through the tent floor or if I'm cowboy camping.
When I was a student, I used to live in a downstairs room that was always freezing (unlike the rest of the house). I ended up putting some temporary window sheets up to fake double-glazing (http://www.amazon.com/Gila-LES361-Control-Residential-Platinum/dp/B000KKM8EG Like that, your local DIY store would likely have some and I've seen people DIY it with household stuff like clingfilm).
The other thing to do is make sure all the drafts are sealed up - fill in any gaps around the window frame with some caulk or similar, and if you can change the curtains, opt for something much heavier (like a velvet or heavy-lined) to act as a draft excluder - I had these ugly red velvet curtains in that house that I basically kept closed all winter.
http://www.selleys.com/home-improvement/living-room-renovation/filling-gaps-and-prevent-draughts/
P.S. There's some cute draft excluders on etsy for along windowsils and bottoms of doors: https://www.etsy.com/listing/218215925/chevron-door-stopper-draft-dodger
http://www.amazon.com/LEDwholesalers-GYO2402-6-Inch-Hydroponic-Booster/dp/B003YFADW8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1368564334&sr=8-3&keywords=blower+fan
With Dryer style ducting works like a champ. I use it for ahem some basement grows.
Well.. If that's not working you should just buy the cheapest carbon filter + fan on amazon and be done with it IMO.
Although, even with a good filter and fan you have to have some negative pressure meaning that you have to suck out more air than you pull in. If you can't get negative pressure then the smell can leak out. If you have a tent and you get a real fan and filter you'll see the walls suck in when you close the tent and that means theirs negative pressure.
Here's some amazon links.
Filters-
https://www.amazon.com/VenTech-Carbon-Charcoal-Control-Filter/dp/B00QLB5U70/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1480987037&sr=8-9&keywords=carbon+filter
https://www.amazon.com/VenTech-Carbon-Charcoal-Control-Filter/dp/B00QLB5U70/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1480987037&sr=8-9&keywords=carbon+filter
Fans-
https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-Variable-Controller-Ventilation/dp/B01C6IJSB0/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1480987316&sr=8-11&keywords=inline+fan+4%22
https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Inline-Variable-Speed-Controller/dp/B01CTM0H6I/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1480987316&sr=8-14&keywords=inline+fan+4%22
Or just get a whole kit..
https://www.amazon.com/VenTech-VT-IF4-CF4-B-Controller/dp/B005GJ7TFE/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1480987446&sr=8-8&keywords=inline+fan+4+inch
Also you can save about 19 dollars by buying this kit
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005GJ7TFE/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1454015965&sr=8-3&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=ventech&dpPl=1&dpID=51BOvHdX3AL&ref=plSrch
I actually didn't tally up the cost as that wasn't really of a concern to me, but I'll try my best to provide links to the things I bought for this. Feel free to add it up for me!
I also bought various tools, like crimpers, Dremel kit, drill, etc, but I don't consider those to be project-specific as I'll have them for the foreseeable future. Let me know if there's anything you see that you think I missed!
Personal experience here -- the iPower 4 inch filter / inline fan combo didn't work very well at all for me. My entire garage smelled like herb.
What I have now, although was a bit more pricey:
Phresh 701005 Carbon Air Filter, 6 by 16-Inch, 400 CFM
Vortex 347 CFM S Line S-600 Fan, 6"
iPower 6 Inch 25 Feet Non-Insulated Flex Air Aluminum Ducting Dryer Vent Hose for HVAC Ventilation, 2 Clamps included
CARTMAN 1" x 12' Lashing Straps up to 600lbs, 6pk in Carry Bag
 
Here's how it looks:
Grow Tent
The honewell thermostat review is right up there....
look at the review from the general:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FLZEQH2/ref=pdp_new_dp_review
I have the Honeywell RTH9580WF and it works with my Echo. It also works with SmartThings, but I rarely use SmartThings to control it. Honeywell's app works well, although it's a bit dated looking.
As far as fireplace switches go, there have been a few threads on this subreddit about it, I recommend searching for them.
I've had a great experience with Radio Thermostat. I have 2x CT50s that I bought used for ~$60/ea. Just make sure you get one with the wifi module. They run a web service for control & logging but the android app communicates directly w/ the thermostat if on the same network.
http://www.amazon.com/Radio-Thermostat-Programmable-Enabled-Controls/dp/B00KQS35XA
So I've put two Mars hydro 600 watt lights in a 2x4x5 tent and if I left it sealed up it will get too hot of course. In that tent I can get away with a 240cfm duct fan at the top vent hole of the tent and be in the 80s. I still have to leave the tents flap open or it gets too hot even with one clip fan and a large standing fan aimed at the tent door. This is in a cool basement and it's not even summer yet. I'm actually in the market for a couple of 300-400 CFL inline fans that are somewhat quiet if anyone knows of any. Looking at this one
Absolutely! You can get as crazy as you want with it, but there are some basics you need to figure out before you really start.
Where are you growing this plant? Do you have a space you're going to use? A closet, an unused bathroom, the basement? Are you going to be purchasing a tent, or maybe emptying out a dresser like this?
The light choice is one you can spend many (too many) hours on. LEDS have their benefits and drawbacks, as do CMH. Heat is more of an issue with CMH, but LEDs can also pump out serious heat. CMH is easy to know what to buy, no real dialing in the height, no worry you're not getting the right spectrum, etc. I'll probablu go LED at some point, but for now CMH is easier (for me). This is the CMH kit I started with. Ballast, bulb, reflector all included. if you have an option for the light, you'll want to get one that is 3100K and NOT the 4000K. 3100K is not as good for veg, but is great for flower. You can detatch the ballast from the reflector - helps keep temps in the tent down, since you can place the ballast outside.
How are you going to deal with heat? Lights run hot, and you WILL need to manage it at some point. Check my previous posts to see my light tube setup.
How are you going to deal with smell? Smell will be an issue, no ifs ands or buts. You can DIY carbon filters, but only if you trust yourself to do it right and hope it won't fail. You will need a carbon filter and fan to manage the smell. I'm running a 6" inline fan with a CAN33 filter. There is 0 smell from the exhaust, the filter is clutch. If noise is an issue for you, fans are decently loud running at full tilt. To work around this, a speed controller on a larger diameter fan, turned down to a lower speed, will reduce noise significantly while giving you the same airflow as a smaller fan on high.
You'll need to get soil and nutrients. Myself and a lot of growers really like Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil. FF Happy Frog is another good one. Get fabric pots if you can - lets the roots breathe a bit.
The above is very, very basic starting info. An enclosed space to grow; an exhaust fan and odor control; full spectrum light; water and nutrients.
Let me know if you have any other questions!
>A year later it's still pretty great but sometimes cuts out after about 20 minutes of use... at the very worst moment it's cut out a couple of times now.
That's actually a built-in "feature" of the Magic Wand Rechargeable to keep it from overheating. Which seems unnecessary because the toy doesn't really get hot and you can turn it straight back on after, but yeah. It's got a 20-minute auto shut off.
>are all three of these the same crappy wand just different colors and labels ?
Probably. There are a lot of white label sex toys on the market, meaning they're made by a single manufacturer and any company can order them with their own branding to sell as their own.
>Must:
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>have a scrolling speed control wheel
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>just as powerful as the Hitachi or more so
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>not spending $150+ ... ideally lets keep it under $100
I don't think you're going to find a single toy that ticks all of these boxes, unfortunately. The only scroll wheel vibes I know of are lower quality and definitely weaker than all three of the Magic Wand iterations.
Also keep in mind that RPM doesn't actually indicate the power of a wand, just the speed of its motor. Depending on the individual motors there can be higher RPM toys that are weaker than lower RPM ones, like the Magic Wand Rechargeable's 6,300 RPM on high versus the Magic Wand Original's 6,000. The Original is still slightly stronger in use.
If you want, your best bet for all those features might be to get the Magic Wand Original, swap the porous head with Vixen's Off With Your Head silicone replacement, and pair the toy with a router speed controller for incremental adjustment. (Keep in mind that this may shorten the lifespan of the motor, but a lot of Magic Wand fans swear by it.)
Otherwise, the Magic Wand's only real competitor for strength is the original Doxy Massager (their Die Cast is a bit weaker and also over your budget), but it's got button controls and a PVC head.
+1 for Honeywell, but no need for a "smart" thermostat for this. The only benefit you're missing out with a regular wifi is the "learning" capabilities of the smart unit. A simple wifi unit will be controllable from your phone, and are a fraction of the cost of the smart units.
These units are currently $90, but I've regularly seen them or similar units on sale for ~$80. Take a look at your local big box and see if they have any deals.
Another thing to check is to see if your utility providers offer any sort of rebates or incentives for smart or wifi thermostats.
Keep in mind that a lot of smart or wifi thermostats require a common wire, so if you have dont have one and don't have the extra wire you may need to run a new wire.
Since you're on National Grid, you can get a smart thermostat for free if you don't want to shell out the cash for a Nest. The Honeywell RTH6580WF is only $64 on Amazon, and Mass Save will give you a rebate of up to $100 (rebate form here).
Having a WiFi thermostat is great. You can program it to turn down automatically at night and when you're away at work, and when you're away you can monitor the temperature remotely or turn the thermostat down if you forgot to do so before you left. If you want to get really fancy, you can link the thermostat to https://ifttt.com and have it automatically adjust the thermostat based on the weather, whether your and your wife's phones are a certain distance from home, if you have a trip on your calendar, etc.
$83: https://www.amazon.com/Honeywell-Programmable-Thermostat-RTH6580WF-Requires/dp/B00Y6M2OUC/
I use this one and it's great.
Venstar Add-A-Wire Adapter
https://www.amazon.com/Venstar-ACC0410-Wire-Accessory-Thermostats/dp/B01IF3QXMC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1505259903&sr=8-1&keywords=Venstar+Add-A-Wire
Buy the add-a-wire and you will then have a common wire. Easy to do, trust me.
Venstar ACC0410 Add-A-Wire Accessory for All 24 VAC Thermostats (4 to 5 Wires), White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IF3QXMC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_B9SRAbW6XM3TD
https://www.amazon.com/Venstar-ACC0410-Wire-Accessory-Thermostats/dp/B01IF3QXMC
something like this, that mystically adds a wire perhaps?
In case you don’t see the other answer, if it is “dumb” in that it’s just a dial and a switch, turn it to the highest temperature and leave it on then plug it into a thermostat type device like https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071NG8MZK/
My house is decently insulated and the heat works fairly well, that is with exception of my bedroom. The bedroom is upstairs but only has a single radiator for what is the largest single room in the house. It's comfortable until the coldest parts of the cycle, and with one thermostat that's downstairs it's never going to get better.
I use an electric heater with a remote thermostat that I bought on Amazon (link below) in my bedroom. This allows me to turn down the heat in the entire house at night and to save on gas while also meaning my bedroom isn't fucking freezing come 5am. It's a nice balance of heat and $. I use a cheap electric heater (link below), it's surprisingly quiet and will easily take the chill off the room.
All of that said, a programmable thermostat is also golden. Turn the heat down when you're at work and asleep. Also, insulate your windows (and make sure they are locked as it helps seal the frame) with plastic covering and cover door gaps with blankets or heavy door mats. All these little tricks add up.
A $200 bill is a big gas bill in my three bedroom house, but you'll have to give this a shot to decide if it saves money.
Thermostat for electric heater - https://www.amazon.com/Nashone-Temperature-Controller-Thermostat-thermostat/dp/B071NG8MZK/ref=sr_1_12?keywords=thermostat+wireless&qid=1572803946&sr=8-12
Electric heater - https://www.amazon.com/Brightown-Adjustable-Thermostat-Portable-Protection/dp/B01L1O7MPE/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=electric+heater&qid=1572804045&sr=8-8
The problem here is that you're trying to apply a solution that will end up causing more problems than it will solve. You're talking about staple-up radiant heat in a home with a thick decking subfloor (much thicker than the 3/4 OSB or plywood that's standard in more modern homes) that's below very old softwood floors that are likely to warp on you if you go through with your plan. On top of that, you're gonna be looking at running a 240v breaker for it (assuming your home's electrical can handle another breaker and the extra load, if it's even been upgraded to breakers from old Edison fuses and the meter has been upgraded from the old 60A - I see you stated elsewhere that the electrical hasn't been updated). You're talking a four, possibly five figure investment versus $200 in ductwork and an additional vent, or a simple space heater and a plug-in thermostat.
To realistically do this the right way, you'd need to first update all the electrical, pull up the flooring, install an appropriate system (hot water/glycol would be a better choice than resistive), and replace and refinish the floors.
My grandpa's house is 100 years old. I'm well aware of what happens when you start tearing into and modifying homes that old: nothing good. TBH, this should be near the bottom of the "honey do" list.
I never thought about venting to the attic. I think, as others have suggested, I'll flip the fans to be intakes instead of exhausts, add filters on the inlets and use this to vent up to the attic.
I'm a big fan of sleeping in vehicles to save on rent. I've lived in my truck for 2+ years, and I love it.
What kind of car do you have? Do the back seats fold down for you to sleep like that? You can also sleep across the interior but you'll have to black out all the windows and buy a sun shade.
I have curtains using hooks, binder clips, and bungee cords, but I'm going to switch to Reflectix soon. Look up some YouTube videos on ideas how to do it. I got the idea from these guys.
You've got some spaces and some friends so you don't necessarily need a gym membership to keep up with hygiene, but you need a place to make shits. You'll find those places no problem; I'd just keep some sanitary wipes to clean the toilet seats.
I cut Reflectix in the shape of my windows, and duct taped black fabric to one side. Blacks out the windows and provides a little insulation (I only camp in winter when skiing).
Reflectix: https://www.amazon.com/Reflectix-BP48010-48-Inch-10-Feet-Insulation/dp/B000BPAULS/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1538621730&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=Reflectix&dpPl=1&dpID=31Io%2BmGxiWL&ref=plSrch
You could probably get a nicer look by using this Bubble Pack Insulation
[cough cough....I'll just leave this here](http://www.Honeywell.com/ CG511A1000/C Medium The[cough cough I'll just leave this here](http://www.Honeywell.com/ CG511A1000/C Medium Thermostat Guard with Inner Shelf to Prevent Tampering (Clear) https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B000BPGP6M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_NR84CbN0YABKB)
Like a thermostat cover?
https://smile.amazon.com/Honeywell-CG511A1000-Thermostat-Prevent-Tampering/dp/B000BPGP6M/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1526416064&sr=8-3&keywords=thermostat+cover
Double check your dimensions based on your AP but I'd think something like that would work.
However, I've taken the APs apart, and if they're well mounted they'll likely hold up to most hits from most objects.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000BPGP6M?cache=463d98138e8baf7d6cd55acf56906614&pi=SY200_QL40&qid=1410403482&sr=8-1#ref=mp_s_a_1_1
This. Until he starts paying his share. There will be drama but if he's not putting in he has no right.
I did this last year and it worked great! This year I am upgrading to bubble wrap insulation: https://www.amazon.com/Reflectix-ST16025-Staple-Insulation-Inch/dp/B000BQSYRO I got a wide roll of it at a hardware store and plan to duct tape it to the tent then tie rope over it.
> Ahh okay yes that makes sense, what do you usually use for insulation?
Foam pipe insulation works well, or a few wraps with Reflectix works well. Reflectix also looks really nice, taped up with foil HVAC tape.
Cover all windows with this https://www.amazon.com/Reflectix-ST16025-Staple-Insulation-Inch/dp/B000BQSYRO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1501096818&sr=8-2&keywords=reflectix
use red Stucco tape to cover the exterior windows. It keeps a lot of heat out.
I made myself a Reflectix sleeping pad when I first got my hammock. Reflectix is basically two layers of bubble wrap sandwiched between two layers of Mylar/space blankets. It helps, and helps quite a bit—you might even get away with on a warm summer night—but it's nothing compared to even a cheap, low-quality underquilt.
I'd say bring the space blanket since they're so cheap and light, but there's a reason everyone has/recommends underquilts. You can't skip it, as I learned firsthand.
http://www.amazon.com/Gila-LES361-Control-Residential-Platinum/dp/B000KKM8EG/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1406364384&sr=8-4&keywords=Window+tint
Just installed this at my dad's new office. I can't speak to the day version but this has a shiny reflective feeling to it that didn't let me look in. In the middle of application I walked outside on a bright 90* Fahrenheit day and looked at the window my dad was working on. You could easily see him quite clearly in the section that did not have tint. The other half of the window did have the film and just reflected my view so I would see clouds and the sky BUT I saw the light fixture in the office. I did NOT see him. Not even a shadowy figure. Just a head shaped object(that from my angle looked like clouds and the blue sky) covered up a portion of the light fixture. Any window film should be a great help and I doubt you'll have a bad experience with any window film unless you get a transparent one. I say go for the type of tint that you would like to have in that location. Black? Slight blue or green tinge to it? Reflective like a mirror? I'm sure you've seen the different styles in cars. Hell, some are even red! There are two ratings usually given to window film. Heat index and light index. I'm guessing you want the one that does not allow much light to enter or one with a reflective material which I personally believe is the best option for a house. Black tint works better for a car in my personal opinion.
Curtains suck. [This](Gila LES361 Heat Control Residential Window Film, Platinum, 36-Inch by 15-Feet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KKM8EG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_CazAxbCC8GFT1) is what I used. My front window is my home office, it faces East and receives direct morning sunlight with no other houses in the way to block any of the light. This tint easily keeps it 15-20 degrees cooler during the summer, it's amazing.
I think windows (for the most part) block UV rays and those are what yellow/fade things.
I know you can get uv window film for added protection if you want.
You could also try applying some reflective film like this on your windows, particularly any that face south.
This is the one I got: Gila Heat Control Platinum Adhesive Residential DIY Window Film Sun Blocking Glare Reduction 3ft x 15ft (36in x 180in) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KKM8EG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_H1z7CbH1M0RRW
They are very much removable and definitely suitable for renters. The first window you do will be difficult, but you'll eventually get the hang of it.
If your apartment gets full, direct sun, get some thermal curtains and reflective window film. Gila puts out a window film kit that works well and can be easily removed when you need to move. You can find it at Lowes and Home Depot. If you get the film, be sure you get the Application Kit for it too.
I had this same issue in my old apartment. The AC would run full tilt, without stopping, and I'd be lucky to see temps below 85F in the summer. I was on the top floor and got full afternoon sun. The curtains and film helped drop the temp a few degrees.
Depends on the strain and the temperatures in the tent. Most likely there will be smell even with a small grow. I have a friend that has a box in his basement and uses one of these fans to pull air through a 14 inch carbon filter 24/7. With one plant and a 150 HPS it get extremely smelly w/o the filter.
Honestly, don't bother with this project and instead get something like this; its almost the same price you would spend on a power supply. If you use it as an exhaust fan and you have an infan hole in your cabinet, it will just suck the air from the outside without needing another fan.
If you're going to grow in your closet (which sounds like the best option) you will want a carbon filter to prevent it from stinking up your place. You can buy carbon filter/fan combos on amazon that are very reasonably priced. This is a good option for a closet size grow.
The one light will work and it's the one thing I wouldn't go cheap on. You could get the smaller size and still be ok. As for the carbon filter [this one on Amazon] (http://www.amazon.com/VenTech-VT-IF4-CF4-B-Controller/dp/B005GJ7TFE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1449034018&sr=8-2&keywords=4inch+carbon+filter+fan+combo) comes with a speed controller which is great for reducing noise and controlling temps. You can mount the fan in the tent or out. It will sound like a fan is running 24/7. No different then a window fan. None of my house guests comment on it. Plus a nice filter and high power fan will be far less noticeable then weed stinking up the whole house.
As for number of plants I would do 3-4 on the first go so you get the hang of it and can make a mistake on one or have a male and not feel bad. The plants will grow as big as you want to allow. They will fill in all the space that is available. Also read up on trimming up all the lower growth once you flip light cycles so you get maximum large main nuggets. For example I had two sugar black rose in 5gal (19L) buckets and got about 200g dried. Now I'm doing one plant in a 10gal (38L) and it's much more hearty and bush like, explosive with growth, and yield should be similar. So if you want a lot of one strain go big or always do 2 so if you loose one you can just up pot real big and still expect a similar yield each time you harvest. Also 2 months is a tight time window it may be more like 3+ you can't rush nature :) going up to a larger pot as soon as you can allows the plant to get big right away. Keeping them in cups or starter pots longer then a few weeks it will grow more leaves when roots are stable, going up to larger pots right after that allows the roots to reach out more and gain large new growth. Only up pot about 3 times. You can always veg for as long as you want and flower will run another 6-8 weeks depending on the strain.
iPower GLFANXINL6FILT6MD25C 6Inch High CFM Inline Exhausting Fan & Carbon Air Filter w/1050+ IAV Australia Virgin Charcoal,Pre-Filter Included,Reversible Flange & 25Feet Ducting w/2Clamps Combo https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DIIPTHA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_R339ybXV2D584
Probably be able to get a way with a 4" fan/filter if it's not too hot in there
If you want a list of materials you'll need, go on Google Maps and find your local hydroponics store. Any clerk at those stores will help you out. They will also help you understand the basics of a set up.
The real necessities of an indoor grow are:
A grow tent (I prefer Gorilla Grow )
A grow light (I prefer California LightWorks )
An inline ventilation system with carbon filter Link for example.
Then there are optional appliances like an indoor air conditioner or an air filter.
This completes the "set-up".
Then you have to decide what kind of grow you're planning - Soil, Coconut husk, water culturing. Typical gardening uses soil and it's what most people are used to. So unless you already understand the other stuff, start with soil.
For soil, you'll want fabric 5-gal pots with plastic drip pans underneath.
It's also recommended to get some sort of support for the plants - either a SCROG net, or a tomato cage (I prefer cages for mobility).
So you fill the fabric pots with soil, put it in your set-up grow tent. Now you need to get seeds going. There are tons of youtube videos showing this, you can google them.
That's really it. You can add nutrients to the soil, but most soil has base nutrients in it already. You really won't need to add much, and if you're not adding much; you won't need to flush really either.
Just watch the pH of you water. Cannabis likes a lower pH (around 5.8 to 6.3). You can get a cheap pH meter, but they need to be cared for. Store the probe in the storage solution and calibrate often. Hannah or Blue Labs are what I'm used to using. When you buffer the pH of a solution, remember the free h ions follow an "S" curve. What this means is adding a drop of pH down when you measure 10.1 may not move that down far (like to 10.0). But if you add a drop of pH down when you measure 7.2, it may drop much faster (like to 4.5).
Would this combo set up be everything I needed for the inline fan, filter, duct etc. to work with my lighting?
Also, one more thing - I have had one seed between a few damp paper towels and two paper plates. I started that last night at 8pm CST, and still no signs of any sprout showing or any reaction. I have it now soaking in a bit of water. I understand that most of the time you want to soak the seed for 24 hours, but since it was in between the damp paper towels - how long should I let it soak? Or should I just go ahead and plant the seed in the pot? Again much thank you's in advance.
I have been using an ipower 4" centrifugal fan for a couple months and for the style of fan it is, it is pretty quiet and doesnt make any rattles/wobbles or anything even when hooked up to a controller. It's really well made, solid aluminum and I had no issues hanging it in my 2x4 tent with all my other lights and stuff. Just dont EVER buy the ipower filter to go with it. They're total junk.
But it definitely isnt on the top of my list for best fans. If you'd be willing to bump up to 6" while staying around the same CFMs (which allows you room to upgrade to bigger tent in the future too) then hands down check this fan out.
They're practically silent, which is just awesome! Only moves 350cfm versus most other 6" which do 440cfm but in your space, and all the way up to about a 4x4' it is plenty. Ive heard nothing but good things about them, im gonna pick one up for next grow,.
Get this fan. Proper ventilation is super important for many things.
Seeing as you want LED, Mars Hydro is a good option for the price. For my 3x3x7 space I have a 900 watt LED, a bit strong but its working great.
Im always going to recommend more natural techniques, so if you are interested give this a thorough read
Thanks! I used this fan with this speed controller, but i found the speed controller only worked over a very small range on the dial. I will likely replace the fan when I automate it with a Rapsberry Pi controller.
Thought I'd chime in. I just got my airbrush compressor and airbrush last Friday. But I'd done a bit of research and had a plan.
I built this out of parts from Amazon totaling $50 and a cardboard box.
The main components are:
An air filter. Try and get something that filters more particulates. Like smoke, mold and pollen, but a nice one if you aren't blowing the stuff outside.
A cheap 4in hose like you'd have behind your dryer.
This thing. Dust Hood for 4-Inch Hose
And the Air Motivator
Though I'd recommend getting a different vent booster, as this one is a bit weak. But it does work. The great thing about a vent booster is 2 fold. It's already 4 inches wide so it fits right on the 4 in hose. And it's at the other end of the hose. So the noise is very muted. Though this fan is pretty quite. I'd say it's more quite than a tiny desk fan.
Oh. And we can't forget. About a kilometer of Duck Tape.
I've used 4 inch duct inline booster fans like this.
Fan: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00F6BL11U/ref=aw_wl_ov_dp_1_11?colid=2XHLEJUA6N9AQ&coliid=INJZA8XHNGF94
Filter: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005HT0GZ8/ref=aw_wl_ov_dp_1_12?colid=2XHLEJUA6N9AQ&coliid=I4RUWHOCF7T3S
I bought a house in March and had the intention of going all in on HA, but so far it hasn't exactly panned out. budgeting for a few good products as i go.
BUT, Here is what i started with so far. I've settled with silo'ed stuff so far. This is what i've done, others will probably have stronger recommendations though.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Z0V2NQ8?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003XOZG0Y?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FLZEQH2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0145OQTPG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
Yes, that's 5 separate apps on my own Note 4
Next on the list is a zwave hub and garage door controller.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FLZEQH2?pc_redir=1414420630&robot_redir=1
Love it, cake to program via WiFi, and getting email alerts for certain environmental triggers is awesome. That and adjusting the thermostat remotely in the case of an unexpected schedule change is nice.
I have a similarly sized tent and I use this fan with this speed controller. It seems to provide very good suction and the controller does not cause the fan to hum or anything. I estimate 10+ full air cycles per minute with this thing going at full blast. I'm running a Mars 600 and a home built 240W COB setup to supplement, pulls about 500W at the wall and my tent is at about 75 F with 60% humidity. Intake air is about 62 F right now.
I would always go 6 inch, simply because that gives you the option to run the fan at 50% power and still get more CFM than you would with a 4 inch.
One thing to consider is the cost of carbon filters if you're worried about smell. My neighbors don't care so I vent outside, but a 6 inch carbon filter will cost at least $50 more than the 4 inch equivalent. Granted they can move more air and will last longer, but still certainly something to consider.
I see you have 4" ducting but trust me you're definitely going to want to have this, thankfully 6" ducting isn't to expensive. Also buy these, so much easier than duct tape and these for managing the ducting. This and this too for supporting the inline fan and filter, the inline fan at full power will vibrate very slightly and I feel that the bungee cords help minimize vibration. I usually use zip ties for managing cords but also as a precautionary measure, I have a few loosely secured zip ties on my inline fans just in case a bungee cord were to become unsecured which that has never happened thankfully but you can never be to safe.
No, it's not safe. Expect either the fan or the dimmer to overheat and possibly catch fire. Light dimmers are designed to dim lights, not control fans or electric motors.
You might try a fan speed controller, like this one: https://www.amazon.com/Variable-Controller-Hydroponics-Exhaust-Adjuster/dp/B00U3LD1WA/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1466731230&sr=8-10&keywords=fan+speed+controller
More competent folks than I can comment on this, but would this fan speed controller (well, the version for the correct voltage) work for this use?
So you think I should just have one of these VIVOSUN 4 inch Inline Duct... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C82SYZ0?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share on top and just have passive airflow at the bottom? It is only one plant but will that be enough airflow
I'm sure the fan will help but check whatever user guide that came with your light to be sure. The last thing you want is a fire. If you have the space and resources, having an exhaust fan like this to pull air out of near the top of your tent will do wonders for temp control.
As an example for a smallish grow:
2 x 2 x 4 Tent: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B074H5DKPY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00
Lights: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0752CL6KJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00
Exhaust fan: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01C82SYZ0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00
Ducting: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00EPE3XHY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00
Timer: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00MVFF59S/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00
Total cost: ~270 CAD
Something like this https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Inline-Variable-Speed-Controller/dp/B01CTM0H6I is what you should be using with a carbon filter.
just want to chime in here, I was in the same boat as you. Starting out as just an experiment seeing if I could actually sprout a seed, turned into a dedicated project :p But I can tell you I didn't have any idea with like lights, tents, air filters etc. So first thing I bought was this LED , but a better option would be this Viparspectra (the one I bought though has been just fine) and just hung it in my closet with the plant, and that's it. veg'ed it for 4 weeks just like that with the light on a timer and my closet door closed. (get a little desk fan to to move some air over the leaves) Then I figured I'd switch to flower, and was kinda on the edge about investing in a tent and carbon filter. but every thread I read about smell, veterans would always say "It's gonna smell a lot!" So I bit the bullet and got a 2x2x4 tent and this carbon filter and fan . You can probably use your DIY carbon filter just fine. Anyway, long story short, I started to flower and literally two days later I walk into my house after work and the smell just hits me. And this is just one plant. So definitely invest in that stuff. But as for the PC fan, unfortunately it's not going to have enough static pressure to force air through a carbon filter. You don't have to go with the one I got, like brotha said the duct boosters will work too. If you have any question let me know cause I relate very well to your situation, except I've now been halfway through the process lol. pm me if you want
Giantex Indoor Grow Tent Room Reflective Mylar Hydroponic Non Toxic Clone Hut 6 Size (32''X32''X63'') https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PXK7ICK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_UhVuybY2C4CHS
Roleadro 2nd Generation 600W LED Plant Grow Light Upgraded Full Spectrum Indoor Growing Light with 120pcs 5W Chips https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IVQ96MW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_diVuybHJCV7XV
VIVOSUN 4 Inch 203 CFM Duct Inline Fan with Variable Speed Controller https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CTM0H6I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_BiVuybSGHVZTE
Century 24 Hour Heavy Duty Plug-in Mechanical Timer Grounded https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MVFF59S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_nkVuybNGBW6PS
MacDoDo PH-02 Digital PH Meter Tester Best For Water Aquarium Pool Hot Tub Hydroponics Wine - Push Button Calibration Resolution 0.01 / High Accuracy +/- 0.05 - Large LCD Display - 100% Guaranteed https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JOHTMEO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_MkVuybZ08V91M
VIVOSUN Pair of 1/8" Adjustable Grow Light Reflector Clip Hanger Rope Ratchet with Zinc Alloy Internal Gears 75lb Each https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00P7TZNPQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_nlVuyb1Q8670K
This is my setup, my fan is coming in today and my seedlings sprouted this morning. I did quite a bit of research and The light is a little underpowered but I was on a pretty tight budget and can always add more light later.
I spent $40 on seeds and super soil mix from Mephisto genetics, going a more organic route and won't require nutes.
I also spent about $30 on peat moss, perlite, and compost. I already had some ducting and pots.
that's a duct booster. it won't have the power to properly exhaust your tent, especially if you're using that filter. i would look at something more like this. i can't vouch for that fan, but it will be a lot better than the booster.
in terms of pushing or pulling, i've been told it's better to pull through the filter than to push, idk, maybe something to do with how long the carbon will stay effective. i personally have my tent setup to push through mine right now, as the fan is a lot smaller than the filter so i elected to put the filter outside. either works tbh.
Yeah I want to get one for home emergencies or camping.
Saw one on the amazon deals of the day: https://www.amazon.com/Mr-Heater-F232017-Indoor-Safe-Portable/dp/B01DD6C4MY/ref=gbps_img_s-3_bb19_2e2a1c6b?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=41fd713f-6bfe-4299-a021-d2b94872bb19&pf_rd_s=slot-3&pf_rd_t=701&pf_rd_i=gb_main&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=A60EGY5J6CZ4MMTV2Z97
Venstar Add a Wire works well if you have a 4 wire setup and want a C wire.
Venstar ACC0410 Add-A-Wire Accessory for All 24 VAC Thermostats (4 to 5 Wires), White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IF3QXMC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_hbbqDbMETV109
Also Nest has a feature called Airwave that is supposed to turn off your compressor and keep running the fan but only after temp has been achieved.
Venstar ACC0410 Add-A-Wire Accessory for All 24 VAC Thermostats (4 to 5 Wires), White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IF3QXMC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_fPY2DbGJFZZCP
It's hard to tell from the picture, but on the control panel side, you have the cable that splits out to have its red wire combined with that yellow wire on the wire nut.
That cable looks like your thermostat cable. I can't tell for certain, but is there a fifth, possible blue wire wrapped around the sheathing of the cable? If that isn't what I am seeing, is there a fifth cable in that bundle?
If so, you should be about to connect that wire to the C terminal on your control board. Back at the thermostat, dig out the hole the wires come through and see if you can't pull a little extra slack of the cable out. Depending on how your house is setup, you might even check where the cable runs in the attic and undo a staple or two if needed to create some slack. Strip the end of the fifth wire and there is your c connection.
If I'm seeing wrong and there isn't a fifth wire, your best bet is likely one of these
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01IF3QXMC/
Why don't you just get a temp sensor like this
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B071NG8MZK/ref=pd_aw_sim_sbs_60_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=D7N1FY57KHJXBAQT3YZ6&dpPl=1&dpID=61GWZEHUmML
Then you could plug it in near the equipment (assuming you have a surge strip in there) and then run the fans off that with a couple set points.
Purchased my UniFi Switch 16 last September. Prior to my purchase I had done research much like you have. I read the same negative reviews and posted a similar question to the UniFi Forums. The majority of the replies related positive experiences.
My Switch 16 has been up and running in a rack in our master closet since late September 2018. We have two AP’s, a CKG2+ and 11 UniFi cameras connected to and powered by the switch. One additional port was used to distribute the network further via a non-POE switch. The remaining ports are used for non-POE connections. Total POE consumption hovers right around 60 watts.
Over the winter and into spring we never heard the fan come on once. As summer set in (90’s-100”s most days) I noticed the fan coming on. It was loud but didn’t disturb us due to the location of the rack. Knowing heat is the enemy of all electronics I purchased an in-line duct fan to create positive air flow into the rack from outside the closet. This was the fan I purchased Link.
The internal switch fan hasn’t come on again and the temperature typically runs around 62 C most days. No regrets and would purchase again. I will report back if it acts up right after the warranty expires but so far it hasn’t missed a beat.
Alright taking into consideration the 12 plant limit here, my previous setup was too big for so few plants. So with some downsizing hopefully saves even more!
Tent - GROWNEER 48"x36"x72" Lodge Propagation Tent
Lights - HLG65 lm301b and red 660nm hydroponic grow light 4000K x 2
Kingbrite 240W samsung lm301h 288v3 quantum board X1
Fan - AC Infinity CLOUDLINE S4, Quiet 4” Inline Duct Fan with Speed Controller
PH Meter - Wellcows Digital PH Meter
PPM Meter - HM Digital TDS-EZ Water Quality TDS Tester
Carbon Filter - VIVOSUN 4 Inch Air Carbon Filter
Ducting - VIVOSUN 2-PACK 4 Inch 8 Feet Non-Insulated Flex Air Aluminum Ducting
Nutrients - MEGA Crop (2500g)
Botanicare CAL-MAG Plus Plant Supplement 2-0-0 Formula, 1 Quart
PH Control - General Hydroponics pH Control Kit
Soil - PREMIER HORTICULTURE 20380RG PRO-Mix HP High Porosity Grower Mix
Pots - Gardzen 10-Pack 1 Gallon Grow Bags x 2
Cloning Machine - CLONE KING 25
Total - 880.62 (includes shipping)
So with this setup ill keep 1 or 2 mother plants and then run the rest in SoG in 1 gallon pots. Using the 2 4000k lights for the mother plant and the cloning station and the 240w for the SoG area of the tent. Its a small setup but I think it'll work. Any idea what kinds of yeilds this could achieve? Any further input would be greatly appreciated.
Got it! So I'll go for the first link. What about the air pump I was looking at this
AC Infinity CLOUDLINE S4, Quiet 4" Inline Duct Fan with Speed Controller - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JB292JC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_jgXnDbQ20EA3X
Think it's worth spending a lot more on the humidity controller and shit or for the next size up?
Also since smell is a priority think it's worth getting this over a standard carbon filter?
Phresh Filter 701003 Inline Filter, 4 in x 12 in | 200 CFM
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007ZU6IUY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_IhXnDbW4GJB7Q
A.C infinity
https://www.amazon.ca/AC-Infinity-CLOUDLINE-S4-Controller/dp/B07JB292JC/ref=aw_pd_cart_vw_crc_2_9?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07JB292JC&pd_rd_r=BHZEKCSHVVWMW4Y16CAV&pd_rd_w=UIioN&pd_rd_wg=T7cyA&pf_rd_p=10f3baa6-c286-419b-abe1-f643497d12c1&pf_rd_r=BHZEKCSHVVWMW4Y16CAV&psc=1&refRID=CDW2XKYKT8C95C77NEF3
Infinity Fan
I bought this and it’s surprisingly quite. At full speed it’s about as loud a old microwave running.
Take a look at AC Infinity CLOUDLINE, it's designed with av rooms and grow rooms in mind.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JB292JC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Kb4QCb329EHBP
Lots of people put Reflectix in their windows in warm areas. It will unfortunately block out all the sunlight but it will help greatly in making the interior temperature tolerable.
This is the answer to your prayers, my friend. It's called Reflectix. It is a foil insulation wrap 5/8 inches thick. Two outer layers of aluminum foil reflect 97-Percent of radiant heat. Each layer of foil is bonded to two inner layers of insulating bubbles that resist conductive heat flow. I have applied this to every window and surface on the west side of the house facing the hot Texas sun which reaches 110 degrees these days.
Before I put these on, I could only gain a 15 degree differential from the outside to inside on the rooms that faced west, whereas now I stay a cool 25 to 30 degrees cooler. You can use chrome duct tape or velcro tape to secure it in minutes. It is a wonder solution, I highly recommend it.
I would try to shade the area, insulate the bucket and then add an Ice Probe. Check out the amazon links. I use the Ice Probe and double insulated my 5-gal bucket.
https://www.amazon.com/IceProbe-Thermoelectric-Aquarium-Chiller/dp/B001JSVLBO/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=iceprobe&qid=1570125812&s=gateway&sr=8-1
https://www.amazon.com/Reflectix-BP48010-ubble-Pack-Insulation/dp/B000BPAULS/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=reflectix&qid=1570126123&s=gateway&sr=8-1 (cheaper at Home Depot)
I used this for mine, 2x large totes stacked like your cans.https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BPAULS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have the bottom stick up about an inch past the lip so it covers the seam when the bins are closed. Its still low enough that i can let it close with out it pinching the reflective wrap. You get a lot of material for only $25, ive done 2x buckets and still have extra left over. Also if you use a roll like mine cut it against the grain, it will push out and basically hold it self together, where i needed it i used duct tape folded sticky side out or just double sided tape.
Hope this helps, otherwise great build! i want to do a large can build like this for a mama, but if i get the space im going to tent it.
Edit: By against the grain i mean perpendicular to how its rolled, lol
I used https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BPAULS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1 to line the inside of my 32gallon setup. It's kind of pricey but IMO worth it. I originally tried Mylar blankets and they are a nightmare to work with. This stuff is thick and easy to work with and claims 95%+ reflectivity.
I've put these. in my class. I've also put these in my class. And if you want to go all out, get this.
In my class, I only have 1/2 of the lights on and it helps. A kid mentioned it being too bright so I took another light bulb out. Put lower watt bulbs in. Also, go to Home Depot and they have displays of different brightness of light bulbs. They have some soft white light bulbs that may help. But go to their display and check out the different light bulbs. The softer light may help.
What about one of these anti-tamper thermostat covers that's keyed?
Link
If your relationship is anything like mine and my wife's, you're the one headed downstairs at night when she's cold and the thermostat needs adjusted. Much easier to adjust on phone (or via GH/Echo)
And you can just do the passive-aggressive thing and install this over it and set the schedule from your phone: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BPGP6M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_PfohAbSQ1GTH8
Had a similar problem in my old office. Solved it with this:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BPGP6M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_SBNgDbK1VJMSV
Gave the manager one key, I kept the other as a sign of dominance.
> Everyone was sick last week, so no action. That's fine.
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Man, you guys seem to get sick quite regularly according to your previous OYS's. Any idea why that is?
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>Before they left, I made a decision about keeping the A/C at a certain temperature while we'll be gone. She argued and I didn't back down (honestly, after DEERing a couple times). Then Broken Record. She finally said, "I think you're prideful." Me: "I think I'm being assertive." I realized within minutes that her comment was my wife's version of "You're an @$$****." Progress. My response still needs work. I'll do better in the future.
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Install one of these and just end the argument once and for all. If you're the only one who has a key, then you control the temperature and nobody else can screw with it. I used to have the same problem until I installed that cover, and once the rest of the family realized that's the way it was going to be, it was never brought up again. Easy win.
Might i suggest something like this Honeywell CG511A1000 Medium Inner Shelf to Prevent Tampering Thermostat Guard, White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BPGP6M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_DwcGDbM6JA9R4 cheap effective and practical for your issue...
Edit: Might be too small after thinking about it but probably could make something that would fit the switch
you should get one of these. Problem solved.
People who don't wear warmer clothes to keep energy and heating bills reasonable are idiots.
Since he won't listen to you (A great signal for the amount of respect he has for you) there isn't much you can do that isn't petty.
Once you guys start getting petty the relationship has an expiry date.
So here are my shitty suggestions as you are locked in a real catch 22 because he doesn't give two shits about your opinion.
Open all the windows while he has the heat high till it cools down and then you both pay 3x the heating bill till one of you breaks or you go broke.
Buy This
This stuff works really well for this purpose. I also use it to get 7.5 gallons to a rolling boil on my stovetop. Probably not useful for you as you're planning on using it in the next few days, but maybe will help someone else
Depends on your light. If you can't put your hand on it for 3 seconds or so, it's too hot to be real close to a mylar blanket. This is better. Reflectix ST16025 Staple Tab Insulation 16 Inch x 25 ft Roll https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BQSYRO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_RYFjzbYX2ARWY
You may want to look it into some bubble wrap insulation for your res as well. It works miracles for keeping water temps down. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BQSYRO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apis_1491534817806
THANK YOU. I covered the floor in this; would this be enough: https://www.amazon.com/Reflectix-ST16025-Staple-Insulation-Inch/dp/B000BQSYRO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1481129537&sr=8-2&keywords=insulation
Also, this looks like a good forced exchange heater?
http://www.themaddogs.com/Equipment/Cabin/Espar/Espar_Eberspacher_Airtronic_D4%20diesel_air_%20heater.htm
Weather stripping for sure and then seal the inside with a piece of r10 insulation blanket if you want to be more precise with it
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000BQSYRO/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1486162379&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=insulation+blanket&dpPl=1&dpID=41vFYWadUML&ref=plSrch
Consider something like this too: https://smile.amazon.com/Gila-LES361-Control-Residential-Platinum/dp/B000KKM8EG/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_t
Made a huge diff in here.
Your CPU will generally just downclock if it is getting too hot, but that's only if it's reaching over 90 C. I can't imagine it's very pleasant having the PC heat up a 40 C room even more.
Is there a window on the west facing side? I've heard that installing heat-reflecting window film can really help and doesn't cost much. They have different tints so you can still let light through or mirror coat, etc.
Idk if the term is different in Aus but here's the brand I see sold in the US: https://www.amazon.com.au/Gila-LES361-Control-Residential-Platinum/dp/B000KKM8EG/
Adhesive/non-Adhesive Tinted Window Film, blocks UV rays and solar heat.
Available in varying opacity, patterns and mirror finishes.
example:
http://www.amazon.com/Gila-LES361-Control-Residential-Platinum/dp/B000KKM8EG/ref=pd_sim_60_5?ie=UTF8&dpID=51OQvi0orCL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=11YTSPSK0ES0VCFF9NV6
Those windows may be old enough not to have a coating at all. I'd suggest applying some heat control window film to the inside of the glass, which will reflect both UV and infrared light, as well as a portion of the visible light to reduce glare. Gila Platinum is a great option, they also have it in a non-adhesive peel-and-stick version, though it's harder to install.
Check if they truly are single-pane by holding up your phone's flashlight or other bright point of light and seeing how many reflections appear in the window. If it looks like a mirror it's a single-pane, if you see two reflections it's double-pane. If it's a single-pane window it is definitely worth replacing with a good double-pane window. If it's already double-pane then it probably isn't worth replacing unless it has a metal frame, just use window film and try to seal up any air leaks.
Thank you for this write-up.
This is the Gila film that I installed on my window. I'm not sure how that compares to the titanium, but I may look into upgrading to the titanium film if the difference is dramatic enough. I'm assuming this film is safe for my patio door?
I'll definitely look into thermal curtains. I've thought about doing something like this, essentially trying to keep the heat trapped in the area between my curtains and the door or putting something in the space my patio door sits to try to insulate that area better.
Unfortunately my AC unit is virtually new... I just had it installed less than two years ago. I'm curious what the seasonal efficiency rating is... I do know that he made some adjustments to what I previously had to account for the fact that I'm on the third floor and my unit gets a lot of sun exposure.
I'll have to look into an evaporative cooler. My place is pretty small, so it doesn't take much to cool it. If it weren't for the fact that I lived on the third floor and my unit baked like an oven during the hottest days of the summer, my power bill during the summer would be negligible because it would take so little to cool it. If I could put one of those units in the room at night for sleeping that may be worth it.
Thanks again for this write-up. It gives me a lot of ideas to look into.
Lights: 300W and 120W Leds
Tent: 32x48x60
Fan: Shat Fan
Humidity: 34-40%
Temp: 72-78F
Soil pH: Roughly 6.9
Soil: Unigrow organic potting soil
Additives: Just distilled water, the clones have been fed calmag once
> programmable power strip so I can set it to fan for as low as one minute a time several times throughout the day. Guess I should go pick up a fan
Automating as much as you can really makes your life easier, and you'll get more consistent results.
I used a setup where I had a duct booster fan blowing fresh air and the output of an ultrasonic humidifier and a small space heater into a 25 foot length of dryer duct that I piled into a plastic bin. The fan, humidifier, and blower (and lighting) were on X10 controllers to switch them on and off.
I had a scheduler program on the computer that would switch on the humidifier, and heater (if needed) then run the fan to blow the fresh air down the duct. The purpose of the duct was to give the water droplets time to evaporate; by the time the air reached the grow chamber it was nice warm and wet, but not dripping.
Once I got it all dialed in and added a thermometer in the grow chamber it was easy to maintain the right conditions with very little effort.
Something like [this]?(http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003YFADW8/ref=asc_df_B003YFADW81810636?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=B003YFADW8)?
Yeah dude, as a general FYI amazon is where I get EVERYTHING because you can get free delivery and no neighbors will know what you bought.
For your small grow, I would try and find the smallest carbon filter they sell. You might not actually have too much of a problem without one if you're only growing one or two plants (unless you don't have a medical card in which case better safe than sorry).
EDIT: You could probably use this filter and this inline fan. I've used about 3 of those inline fans in my grow and they're pretty solid.
Right in my price range too! Would this fan work? to Amazon we go!
I use Can-Fan 4" for cool-air intake. I use a General 6" exhaust from amazon.
Besides that I have the run of the mill oscillating fan bathing them in sweet little whispers.
Beneath the reflectors hanging by some ratchet straps is a Booster Fan to act as a ghetto air cooling system for the hoods, and push the air towards the exhaust.
I live in a cold climate, and this tent is in my basement; so cool air intake is usually between 65-69 degrees. In the winter 59-65.
For computer fans, you could always use a 12v->DC adapter. I found mine on NewEgg last.
For around the same price or cheaper (especially per CFM) something like this works great.
Yea, this one didnt come with any documentation or wiring diagrams and I've searched all over the internet but can't find anything.
Here is the fan in question
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003YFADW8
I have this 4" (10cm) set and this 6" (15cm) set both going 24/7. From outside the rooms it sounds like air conditioning units going all the time. Not really audible from anywhere but the hallway in front of the doors.
My carbon scrubbers are placed like this. I feel like it helps pull hot air up and away from the plants.
My flower tent is 1m x 1m x 2m with a 600w hps which works out to 55w/ft^2 . My house is around 15-21c and I have to run an air conditioner in that room for most of the day to keep tent temps below 26c.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GJ7TFE
For the price, this doesn't seem too bad.
Ipower is not really considered a spend more get more brand around here.
That said I have a cheap Ventec which came with a speed controller and it works fine. Moves some air, I keep it turned down most of the way. It is certainly not smell free, but it keeps it at a reasonable level for my stand alone house. Would not recommend it for an apartment. Not sure if they sell the same bundle in Canada.
80cfm is no where near enough to work as an exhaust only AND carbon scrubber in that way. just get a proper 4" fan and filter for that size, cheapies on amazon for ~$130 range with speed controller.
4" 190cfm inline duct fan and carbon filter combo $97
fan speed controller $21
If you can insulate it well, I bet 50*f outside could be dealt with. I'd be concerned about 'lights out' temps though.
Yes, it's illegal to distill alcohol for personal consumption; owning a still is not illegal. The reason I bring the Kingston court case up is because it is treated in much the same way as possession of cannabis in most areas - the courts at large don't care unless you're selling, hence it being an outdated law.
As for home grows being restricted in Colorado - of course they are, that's how the law was written; stating that it's restricted because it's not safe but that renters require permission whereas homeowners do not is arguing false cause. It's basically the same argument for having pets in a rental - some areas allow it by law, some do not (at least in the US); in addition it also give added 'protection' for landlords who are victimized by illegal grow ops. But that's the US and this is Canada.
The reason for flagging illegal grow ops is obvious; if you don't have to worry about living in a place, chances are you don't worry about spreading dirt, water and everything else around, hacking up the wiring and causing a mess. A future buyer has a right to know if there may be water damage or potential future mold issues due to this.
What you're not seeing -again- is the thousands of Canadians who already grow their own and you'd never be the wiser to it. You talk about Colorado having all the "best" equipment for growing, which is completely false. Spend 5 minutes searching the yellowpages of your city and I guarantee you that you will find a Hydroponics center if your city is larger than 50 000 people.
Even still, the Internet brings the very best equipment right to your doorstep and totally private unless a warrant is issued for your financials.
less than 5 minutes on Amazon
http://www.amazon.ca/Aviditi-PTU-70-Reflective-Hydroponic-35-Inch/dp/B008B8BQRE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1406428720&sr=8-2&keywords=grow+tent
http://www.amazon.ca/Hydrofarm-FLCDG125D-125-Watt-Compact-Fluorescent/dp/B001UV6P9I/ref=pd_sim_hi_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=01MWGNJ2TFW85VJ0Z10A
http://www.amazon.ca/iPower-GLFANXINL6FILT6MD25C-6-Inch-25-Feet-Ducting/dp/B00DIIPTHA/ref=pd_sim_hi_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=1TK5SZXH60ZRC8HKJ9FH
http://www.amazon.ca/General-GH4120-Hydroponics-WaterFarm-Complete/dp/B001ID8CMG/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1406428847&sr=1-1&keywords=hydroponics
http://www.amazon.ca/FloraNova-7-4-10-One-part-Nutrient-quart/dp/B00KERVR9C/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1406428887&sr=8-5&keywords=hydroponic+nutrients
Combine all of the above with a GFCI outlet and a surge protected power bar and you're all set up to grow with an extremely low risk of water damage or fire. Add a basic small dehumidifier and zero mold. The argument against it due to risk of property damage is silly. You could make the same argument against house plants or home aquariums, try taking away either of those.
Finally, why should we let people grow their own?
Because, if we don't we create yet another class of criminal; Allowing 4-6 plants per adult for personal use is the best way to avoid further criminalizing people - people will do it either way, the surest way to increase risk is to force it underground. If you stomp on people's ability to do for themselves instead of regulating it, bad things happen.
Welcome to growing your own weed. It's the best hobby ever. Thanks for doing some research before asking questions. Let's look at your questions:
> Will this setup let out any smell from the tent?
You will have very minimal, but not absolutely undetectable smell outside the tent. I would expect no smell outside of your 6x12 room. When you open your tent during flower, there will be a strong pleasant fresh weed odor.
> If I had to go out of town for any reason, would the room still function fine with the door and window both closed for 2-3 days? (Assume I would need a dehumidifier and AC unit)
You should be A-OK for 3-4 days unattended with no special arrangements aside from watering before you leave. Yes, you should expect to need a dehumidifier and A/C unit. A window A/C is usually preferable to central air, because it keeps the air in the 6x12 room isolated from the air in the rest of the house.
> Would the setup be too noisy to have in the same room as my computer and spend multiple hours per day sitting next to?
With the fan/blower you linked, yes, it would be pretty noisy. I would suggest you upgrade to this 6" blower/filter and get the speed controller. It makes for smooth, quiet operation on reduced speed.
> Would my microphone (Blue Yeti if relevant) pick up on it?
If you get an oversized blower and run it on reduced speed, it should be quiet enough for you.
> Are the any health risks to myself or my pets by being in the same room as the exhaust for multiple hours per day?
None that we know of.
> The entire setup would likely share a wall outlet with my computer via a 5 outlet adapter, will there be any issues here? (There is another outlet in the room but would either stretch cords across the room or require stringing the cables up)
You need to watch your power budget for sure. You probably have one 15 or 20 amp circuit to that room, which limits you to 1800 or 2400 watts. Your grow tent will eat up 600 watts. A 5000 BTU window A/C uses another 600 watts. That leaves you with 600-1200 watts to run your computer. If you throw a dehumidifier in there, and everything starts running at once, you could start tripping breakers. I would suggest you find out what size circuit is feeding your room. It's going to be close.
> Would this tent height severely limit the number of different strains I could grow?
A taller tent is always better. Especially with the CMH light fixture, which likes a little extra room. If you can get a taller tent, then get it. That said, if your plant training is on point, you can make it work with any strain.
> I could clear off a roughly 2' x 2' area off my desk for trimming and such, will this suffice or will it be too messy?
Yes, you can trim at your desk 2x2 desk. It's a smelly process and the smell can linger for a couple days. If you do it with a fan in the window you can keep odor to a minimum.
> Is drying and curing inside of the tent a viable option to control smell? (Obviously not while I'm growing other plants)
Yes. Most indoor tent growers dry in the tent.
> I'm sure there's some things I'm forgetting right now, but based on my questions and concerns, is it worth getting into growing right now or should I look at getting a bigger space? Thank you for reading this far and for any advice you're able to give!
Growing is not for everyone, but if you have the disposition for it, it's a wonderful, wonderful hobby. If you buy weed regularly it will save you a ton of money. I think you should go for it.
If you look at the last 2 images here, you can see my filter and setup here http://imgur.com/a/TUFMf
This is the exact fan/filter that I got http://www.amazon.com/iPower-GLFANXINL6FILT6MD25C-6-Inch-25-Feet-Ducting/dp/B00DIIPTHA/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1450463821&sr=8-5&keywords=carbon+filter+6%22
Also added a fan controller so it wasnt running at 100% all the time http://www.amazon.com/Hydrobuilder-HBVFSC-Variable-Speed-Controller/dp/B00BLOSG7I/ref=pd_sim_86_80?ie=UTF8&dpID=41idj0MShKL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0FBPXDHCDMHF1K8SQ2AR
I have something like this
iPower 6 Inch 442 CFM Inline Fan, with 6 Inch Carbon Filter and 25 feet duct combo, 2 clamps included, grow tent ventilation system https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DIIPTHA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_86EGzbRJKFNEW
I could always take the filter off and mount the pipe on the ceiling and run it out the basement window?
I bought this set up here iPower GLFANXINL6FILT6MD25C
I also have one small intake fan in the port on the bottom and I am exhausting out the port on top of the tent out my grow room window.
Do you notice how the tube florescent on the right hand side of this image Imgur looks like it comes out of the tent I meant to do that, reason being is when I have the exhaust running even at half speed the negative pressure sucks in the slack in the tent walls decreasing my grow area. With the light jammed in there the negative pressure cant suck the walls in.
It was either this or spend more money on a bigger intake fan.
 
This set up utilizing the negative pressure makes it real easy to regulate your RH and Ambient temps.
I have no problem keeping my RH at a steady 40% and my AT @ 72-78 Fahrenheit, the only bitch was hanging the damn thing!
Vortex 347 CFM S Line S-600 Fan, 6" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EIRU2YU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_J0tLBbE8TYACF
This fan is great
Depending on the outdoor temperature where you live, you may want to reverse that airflow direction, so you're venting outside. You will need the intake airflow to be temp controlled, around 70-ish F. If you get extreme cold or heat where you live, drawing your intake from outside will give you trouble. However, with your budget, you can definitely afford a name brand carbon filter (Phresh is a good one), so you won't have to worry about smell.
There are a few ways to limit the fan noise. Some combination of: (1) a larger 6" fan, turned down with a fan speed controller, (2) a "silenced" fan, (3) insulated ducting, and/or (4) building a box around the fan to muffle the noise.
Also, you don't have to limit yourself to a dwarf autoflower with a 30x23" space. You can grow a pretty good size photoperiod plant in there, or maybe two smaller ones.
This is a pretty good light setup for that space, if you aren't scared of doing a little minor assembly (it's really easy). It can be done a little cheaper, but that's a pretty good, complete package (discount code: growmau5). Get the driver ending in 2100B and the poke-in 3500K SE chips, and add THIS dimmer. Assembly instructions are linked at the bottom of that page.
I use this [fan] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EIRU2YU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1) and this [filter] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008NYF8S4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1) 48"x48"x80" tent. The fan is quiet.
I haven't heard of any making them louder than full, but most don't really make it much quieter than full. This could be something to do with the type of fan used or the controllers.
Here is an example of a way to make a carbon filter. This one is meant to be connected to an inline duct fan, which is probably the type I would recommend for your sized space.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Suncourt-Inductor-6-in-In-Line-Duct-Fan-DB206/100067594
http://www.amazon.com/VenTech-DF4-Duct-Fan-100/dp/B00F6BL11U/ref=lp_13399911_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1412050146&sr=1-1
You can find them at any big hardware store to check it out in person before buying too if you don't want to order online
Okay I just looked up the fan you were talking about in your original post and if this is the one, then how were you planning on attaching a carbon filter to it? It looks really flat like a jumbo computer fan and doesn't seem like it would be easy to both mount to your box and attach a filter to. Also, that type of fan generally doesn't have very good suction/air pressure. They can have a decent CFM rating and are useful for circulating air within the box or as exhaust fans without a filter, but once you introduce something that impedes the flow, they don't have enough force to push air through well. I originally thought you were talking about this type of fan
Either way, if you do end up getting a speed controller on any kind of fan, it is important when using it to start the fan up at 100% speed, then lower the speed down to your desired setting, not start it at 0 and turn it up or start it at the final speed.
You could get this https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00F6BL11U/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1484578858&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=inline+duct+fan&dpPl=1&dpID=41FrUZOvkKL&ref=plSrch and this https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00EPE3XHY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484578916&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=4+inch+duct&dpPl=1&dpID=5139MLHSyHL&ref=plSrch and use your imagination
100 CFM https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F6BL11U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This is my tent https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PXK7IMA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Programmable light switches are super handly for when you're out of town and want to make it look like you're home, and if you're forgetful about turning off lights.
Keypad deadbolt never worry about getting locked out. If someone is house sitting you can give them the code and then change it when you get home.
Energy saving outlets are great for things like charging cell phones or computers and keeping your power bill lower.
Wifi thermostat. I think Nest is overrated and expensive for what it is.
Electric crockpot-pressure cooker-rice cooker-yogurt maker. This thing does it all, seriously. Pressure cookers are awesome for getting things cooked quickly so you can buy cheaper groceries (dried beans vs. canned). Slow cookers are great for tough pieces of meat, roasts, soups... They're also great in summer as they don't heat up the whole kitchen. It being multi-purpose is a bonus for kitchen space.
I assume since you are looking at Nest that you are wanting a newer kind of "Smart" Thermostat. Here is the one that I want to install once I move into my house, Amazon Link. I believe that they may even carry them at Home Depot? It handles 110v.
I have something similar on my list. It's #3 behind the parts for a new xen server, and the OBD2 Bluetooth dongle.
I like this one better.
http://www.amazon.com/Honeywell-RTH9580WF-Touchscreen-Thermostat-Premier/dp/B00FLZEQH2/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1453931522&sr=1-1&keywords=honeywell+wifi+thermostat
Fuck Ecobee. Get two of these and you're done:
https://www.amazon.com/Radio-Thermostat-Programmable-Enabled-Controls/dp/B00KQS35XA/ref=sr_1_20?ie=UTF8&qid=1484946346&sr=8-20&keywords=wifi+thermostat
It's not just long-term support I'm concerned about. When a product is required to "phone home" to vendor-controlled servers to perform its functionality, you've lost all control over your privacy (they now have a continuous stream of data on their servers about your home), not to mention the product's reliability and longevity.
 
I've gotten a response from a vendor that their thermostat does not require Internet access and that there are mobile apps that would allow one to control it over one's home WiFi network. It's not as pretty as the big vendor's products, but it does fit the bill.
I have a similar one: http://www.amazon.com/Radio-Thermostat-CT50-7-Day-Programmable/dp/B00KQS35XA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420922423&sr=8-1&keywords=radio+thermostat
It's awesome, note you need a power wire.
I just do the $100 wifi thermostat.
It has the phone apps, webapps, etc that the Nest has at half the cost. You can manage it from your browser too. It runs without Wifi like you want. It's also very simple to use and schedule.
A decent thermostat is ~$25, this one is $100. I think you'll be fine spending $75 more.
Don't know about most popular, but I've had a couple of CT50s in my house for the last few years and could not be happier. Cheap, great web interface, and gets the job done. I paid $150 total for the two of 'em. Not as pretty as the Nest, but not $250 (x2) either!
4x4 tent with 4 plants and a decent veg time and you could get about a lb or maybe a little less every 5 months.
4x4 set up is a lot less than $1000
tent $100 https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-Hydroponic-Indoor-Growing/dp/B00H9O6UJ0
light $170 https://www.amazon.com/iPower-Digital-Dimmable-System-Reflector/dp/B005GYRZV2
exhaust fan $100 https://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-ACDF6-Active-Air-Inline/dp/B00KWYJQYA
clip fans $20 - $40 https://www.amazon.com/Comfort-Zone-Clip-Stands-anywhere/dp/B000U9V47E
You still need buckets and soil as well as seeds or clones, but the bulk of what you need is right there.
You could swap out the HID lamp for some leds easily enough. Or upgrade to slightly better quality items, but you can get started for pretty cheap if you want.
Add a second set up like this and you can go perpetual grow and harvest several times a year.
I understand being overwhelmed at first here, but I couldn't imagine trying to figure it out from a different language, so props to you! You can definitely build your own setup, or you could purchase a grow tent. The sizes range anywhere from 4x4x7' (or 4 feet by 4 feet wide and 7 feet tall), smaller, bigger, there's something out there for everyone. Some common lighting sizes with MH/HID (metal-halide/high intensity discharge, just different styles for different stages) bulbs are 400W, 600W, 1000W or so I've seen on here. You could also go with LED lights, but I don't know much about those. It depends on how many plants you'd like to grow and the size of your space.
As far as fans, I would get more powerful inline fans like this or this to actually move the air around if you're planning a bigger grow. If you're not too worried about a carbon filter, which it never hurts to be, maybe you could try making a DIY one with some supplies from your store and a guide from this sub?
Hope this helped, best of luck and please update us! (ps your English is actually fine and easy to understand)
This fan
This pump
Right now it's venting outside but I'm looking into at least some filtration to not upset the neighbors.
I installed a 6" inline fan in the attic and have the exhaust run to the return air side of the AC for the house. The closet that the servers are in has a large enough opening between the bottom of the door and the flooring to pull enough air to create a cold and hot side for the servers.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KWYJQYA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I’d try Home Depot first. (Woodworking router, not internet router.)
Yescom Variable Fan/Router Speed Controller 3 Settings Hydroponics Inline Fan Exhaust Air 500W to 1800W Adjuster https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U3LD1WA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Og8gDbF4QC0V5
https://www.amazon.com/Variable-Controller-Hydroponics-Exhaust-Adjuster/dp/B00U3LD1WA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493069034&sr=8-1&keywords=speed+fan+controller
You just hook up a speed controller to both fans.
That way you can raise/lower each of them as needed.
My fans are always on. 24/7. Keep that air fresh. Keep it moving. It's not just about the heat. I want fresh air passing by the plants at all times, and stale air moved out.
The benefit of a controller is you can create the ideal situation for your needs. I like negative pressure to avoid odor leaking. Plus if you have a scrubber this is what you NEED. You want all of your air to pass through the carbon scrubber, so your exhaust should be turned up higher than your intake, creating negative pressure. Therefore the only air escaping from your tent is via your exhaust. IE, no smell leaks.
If you must turn them off at times, I would turn off both at the same time. That way the fluctuation is more minimal. I can't think of many reasons to turn them off though. I would keep on permanently.
You need a rheostat like this one instead. It could reduce the life of wand, though.
If I were you, I'd invest in a Doxy or something similar that has more speeds. I reviewed a Lovehoney Wand last week that would probably work well. It has no preset speeds at all. It uses a dial instead and starts on a much lower speed than a Magic Wand. It's significantly less expensive than a Doxy, too. It's not quite as powerful as the Doxy or Magic Wand but that's not going to be a problem in your situation anyway.
Some folks use their Magic Wand through their clothes to dampen it.
Finally, consider a silicone cover that will dampen the vibrations a bit. I keep this one on one of my wands. There's also this smooth style and a ribbed one.
as i understand it a universal motor with brushes is AC/DC compatible
sorry its not a pwm its scr or triac or some crap: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U3LD1WA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_Bh.JDbH0J22BK
Yep, I also have the band heater and I love it. Takes a while to get up to temperature, but once it's there it's awesome.
And for OP asking about a controller - Brewhaus always seemed to be out of stock. I started looking around and found basically the same thing on Amazon for half price. Get one like this.
any recommendation on a decent speed controller? II have this and get a humming noise when I turn my vortex down, so it still end up being pretty loud.
I got one of these to help with air flow but also got one of these which allows me to control the humidity really well.
I got one of these lights, a little less money than the one you had in your cart. Although I will be buying one more for my next grow.
I have this Honeywell thermostat. It's a bit more expensive than the cheap Z-Wave ones, but it has a proper cloud service and I've been happy with it. I bought it when I had central AC and heating, but my house now only has hot water baseboard heat and no central AC. It works great for the heat.
https://www.amazon.com/Honeywell-RTH6580WF-Wi-Fi-Programmable-Thermostat/dp/B00Y6M2OUC
That actually has too few buttons dedicated function buttons would be prefered this is pretty much exactly what I wan't but it doesn't have the circulating fan option.
Cheapest isn't usually a good option in the long run. In this case it more than likely will be hard to set up/connect, keep a connection, not have options that you'd probably want, good chance it won't operate as flawlessly as one you'd spend a bit more for and tech support may be non-existent. Cheap parts, cheaply put together...more trouble than it's worth. Honeywell is old as dirt. They're reliable. Tech support is 50/50. They make a dependable thermostat. I could have bought any wifi thermostat I wanted and chose the Honeywell TH9320WF because it did everything I wanted (and I could make the screen any color ;) ). It was $156 at the time on Amazon. Honeywell makes less spendy ones tho. It will have the Honeywell dependability but just the basics. $82/Amazon.
4 star rating
https://www.amazon.com/Honeywell-Programmable-Thermostat-RTH6580WF-Requires/dp/B00Y6M2OUC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1522456176&sr=8-1&keywords=honeywell+wifi+thermostats+for+home
Oh god this is giving me PTSD from the house I bought last year.
It had one of those Honeywell programmable thermostats and I was shivering at 2am poking at it with a flashlight trying to figure it out. Programming it was a pain in the ass. Changing the temp? I was never sure if I was reprogramming it or temp changing the setting. I ripped it out day 2 and put in a Nest. That's super clear.
In the basement I put in a round mechanical thermostat to keep the pipes from freezing in winter and that's it. No frills. Just a spring.
If I were you, unless you want a smart one, I'd get one of the old round ones and call it a day. If you want a smart one, get the cheap Nest.
Thanks! Do you know of this 5-1-1 would work or would this 7 day be the least expensive model?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003VIWQL4/ref=psdcmw_2054378011_t3_B00Y6M2OUC
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00Y6M2OUC/ref=psdcmw_2054378011_t3_B00FLZEQH2
I purchased this Honeywell wifi thermostat recently. I couldn't justify the price of the Nest. The Honeywell was less than $90, and it does the job.
Is that duct fan this one: https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Inline-Booster-Noise-Grounded/dp/B01C82SYZ0/ ? If so, I'm curious to know if it works with the filter. I almost got it, but the product descriptions says it's not for use with a carbon filter, so I thought it might not have enough pressure to push air through the filter. If it works, though, it is certainly a lot cheaper than the high-powered fans.
You can get a Vivosun inline 4" fan for like $25...
inline fan
I just use a 15$ 4” intake booster fan. Also made by vivosun.
VIVOSUN 4 inch Inline Duct... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C82SYZ0?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I did something similar. I used PVC rather than aluminum because it was cheaper. I also installed an inline fan closer to the gable, which I wired with the ceiling van, and it helps a lot with the fan trying to push air that far. I have had zero issues with ice buildup on the outside vent.
https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Inline-Booster-Noise-Grounded/dp/B01C82SYZ0
First hit on 4" duct booster fan [amazon.ca](
https://www.amazon.ca/VIVOSUN-Duct-Booster-Fan-100CFM/dp/B01C82SYZ0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479753535&sr=8-1&keywords=4%22+duct+booster+fan)
Shopping list;
AmazonBasics 6-Outlet Surge Protector Power Strip, 6-Foot Long Cord, 790 Joule - White https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00TP1C1UC/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_H4B1DbVABEKV0
VIVOSUN 4 inch Inline Duct Booster Fan 100 CFM, Extreme Low Noise & Extra Long 5.5' Grounded Power Cord https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01C82SYZ0/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_33B1DbZQFHVBT
VIVOSUN 4 Inch Air Carbon Filter Odor Control with Australia Virgin Charcoal for Inline Fan Pre-Filter Included https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01DXYMBU6/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_D3B1DbXZRD3RS
Hydrofarm TM01015D Dual Outlet Grounded Timer https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B001Q1FZWA/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_.2B1Db0WE33FY
LED Lights Strip 5M 5050 SMD Waterproof 150LEDs RGB Color Changing Flexible LED Light Strip Kit https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07B5Z2Y34/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_H2B1Db47ZRW0K
COB LED Grow Light, Niello Full Spectrum Grow Lights for Indoor Plants, Higher Light-Gathering, Space Saving and Easy to Install, Professional Greenhouse Hydroponic Indoor Plants(150W) https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07DJ5WZQD/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_M0B1DbJMFAJ20
Not included; tin tape, duct tape, 2" curved pvc tubes x3, zip ties, hot glue, and the Rubbermaid wheeled bin + lid.
Vivosun! Pretty great little fans:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CTM0H6I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_l9aWBbGG2NW8R
It depends what fan you have. If you wanna spend $100 you can get one that’s way quieter. I have this one VIVOSUN 4 Inch 203 CFM Inline Duct... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CTM0H6I?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
With mine you would probably be fine since there’s a door in the way for you. I can’t really hear mine if I go into another room.
Nope I own the one your talking about I believe.
VIVOSUN 4 Inch 203 CFM Inline Duct Ventilation Fan with Variable Speed Controller https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01CTM0H6I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_E5BSAbG6PBC7B
They have another that was 10$ more then this one that I couldn't figure out the difference of. But the controller is built into the cable no installation needed.
Weird, your page looks a lot different than mine but its the same fan.
https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Inline-Variable-Speed-Controller/dp/B01CTM0H6I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1516814367&sr=8-1&keywords=vivosun%2B4%2Binch&th=1&psc=1
Thanks for all of your help man, I'll be thinking of you when I get this beast set up.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01CTM0H6I/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1522434096&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=4in+inline+fan&dpPl=1&dpID=517%2B2qeoicL&ref=plSrch
This looks more like what I see people using. How's the brand?
this one is great, high quality and all you can hear is it moving a lot of air.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01CTM0H6I/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481517924&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=vivosun+203
Are these the buddy heaters you’re talking about?
https://www.amazon.com/Mr-Heater-F232000-Indoor-Safe-Portable/dp/B01DD6C4MY/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=mr%2Bbuddy%2Bheater&qid=1569008572&sr=8-3&th=1&psc=1
>Size isn't too much of a factor cause I'm not sleeping in it, but being able to fit a few people would be nice.
So which is it? A two person tent is enough for two people facing each other, but more than that can be a problem. I respect the fire hazards of a heater too much to use it in a 2 person tent. Not to mention the short height. At a minimum, I'd want a 3 person tent if I were the only person in it with the heater, a 4 person tent for 2-3 people in the tent with the heater. The problem is a large 4 person tent takes a lot of time to heat up. I'd say my Mr Heater takes about 10 minutes before I start feeling the heat, and about 45 minutes before the tent finishes heating, and that only takes it from about 35°F to 50°F where it stops getting hotter because the tent is just too large for the heater and one warm body. If you want to be able to stand almost anywhere in the tent, you'll probably have to get a 6 person tent. To heat that at all, you need a larger heater than a Mr Buddy, and heating the area quickly is going to require a heater that puts out several times as many BTU's. This is the smallest I'd even consider for a tent that large for heating that area before you're done with your smoke. Either heater is already over half your ideal budget, and you still need to buy fuel, or a tank plus fuel for the second heater.
Maybe you should get multiple options. Maybe a popup "bathroom" tent for when you're solo, and a patio heater if you have a group.
Another problem is the type of smoking you're doing. I would not smoke cigarettes in a tent with a floor. Super dangerous. Vaping might be okay. Some would say using a heater or vaping in a tent with synthetic fabric is super dangerous, and I can't disagree. At least if I'm by myself, I can manage the risk. Adding others into the mix serious cranks up the danger.
If you do not have a big enough tent for this, they do make a Mr Buddy that has a tipover and an oxygen sensor. Some people still won't trust this in a tent, but it would be much safer than the lantern if you need heat. If not super cold, maybe think about heated blankets (they make battery powered ones), or those hot hand packets. If it is cold enough, Propane heaters can also be a problem due to the moisture they add to the air.
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01DD6C4MY/ref=as_li_ss_tl?slotNum=7&keywords=tent+heaters+for+camping&ie=UTF8&sr=8-6&imprToken=8fm8QwFppnQmWplHn3mD7w&linkCode=ll1&tag=gudgear0c-20&linkId=1a5e7bdcfbebed209b509c3d1c9b64c3
I have had a very similar experience to you and the problem was solved by installing a C-wire between the furnace and Nest. If you do not have a spare fifth wire going between your thermostat and your furnace, you can:
To me it sounds like you need this: https://www.amazon.com/Venstar-ACC0410-Wire-Accessory-Thermostats/dp/B01IF3QXMC
Also use this as a guide: https://youtu.be/R3pea5qtygo
Edit: Reason I say so is you should always use a common wire with Nest. You have to check your furnace terminal to see if it has a the right setup.
Pulling a new cable using the old cable is problematic in most homes if you don't have access to the cable at every point. Either it will be stapled, or it will be passing around too many tight bends with high friction.
There are some alternatives:
If you can, stop and go open the panel on your hvac system (Attic/garage/Basement/crawlspace)
There you will find where those wires connect. take a picture, note it down.
There is a good chance that you could simply connect the C wire. There
Or use a c-wire bypass
https://www.amazon.com/Venstar-ACC0410-Wire-Accessory-Thermostats/dp/B01IF3QXMC
or
https://www.amazon.com/Honeywell-THP9045A1023-Wiresaver-Wiring-Thermostat/dp/B0060ASWPE/
As a last resort if the wire/cable is stuck and can't be replaced then you can go the add-a-wire route. You might need to drill a 1/2 hole below the current hole to stuff the diode and wire nut into.
https://www.amazon.com/Venstar-ACC0410-Wire-Accessory-Thermostats/dp/B01IF3QXMC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3pea5qtygo
so you use a light switch with a little knob for fan speed?
get something smarter
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turns itself on/off at a certain time
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they're $25 bucks.
https://www.amazon.com/Nashone-Temperature-Controller-Thermostat-thermostat/dp/B071NG8MZK/
Nashone Wireless Temperature Controller,Electric Thermostat with Remote Control Built in Temp Sensor 3 Prong Plug LCD Display Heating Cooling Mode
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BTW - swamp coolers are little more than fans and a pump for the water.
they don't use juice like AC.
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hang a wet sheet or towel and point a desk fan at it, you'll get some cooling.
Here's a wireless thermostat that you could use.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071NG8MZK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_oao0BbYD8ZPD7
Or remote wireless hemostat.. Does heating or cooling. I'm using one to control a window AC. Or an Inkbird type with the probe inside the garage. There are a bunch of models and probably clones.
Okay thank you. Ill look into the cobalt easy therm. Also is this what youre referring to for a temperature controller? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071NG8MZK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_1JgbBbW9TV7R8
AC Infinity Cloudline, model depending on what you’re looking for and tent size. I have the basic S4 for my 2x3, it’s super quiet even when running on full power. Strong, durable construction and comes apart really easy for cleaning. I know they’re just exhaust fans and not super interesting but I played with mine for like a half hour before doing anything with it.
https://www.amazon.com/AC-Infinity-CLOUDLINE-S4-Controller/dp/B07JB292JC
I agree, I would not spend too much on the tent, and spent the most on the light, I would suggest the AC Infinity filter fan it is light powerful and adjustable
Move air through vents with in line fans. Super easy if you have an attic.
AC Infinity CLOUDLINE S4, Quiet 4" Inline Duct Fan with Speed Controller - Ventilation Exhaust Fan for Heating Cooling Booster, Grow Tents, Hydroponics https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JB292JC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_lGRZDbYTQ5HB8
The duct fan that im using is this one on amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/AC-Infinity-CLOUDLINE-S4-Controller/dp/B07JB292JC/ref=sr_1_6?crid=1RWB03A6H659R&keywords=duct+fan+4+inch&qid=1573145365&sprefix=duct+fan+8+inch%2Caps%2C134&sr=8-6
I originally had used a smaller 4" duct fan that was rated for 100cfm but that wasnt strong enough to evacuate the fumes from my enclosure. Im pretty happy with this fan as its quiet and i can barely notice it running sitting next to the printer.
Im in a full enclosure that i built and my enclosure temps stay around 80 degrees F while printing with this fan running at max.
I’ve check out the CloudLine s4 but haven’t heard much about it. Is it fairly new?
I have this combo in mind.
this one is great. allows for schedules and quick changes for weather shifts. You can also deal with it from your phone so if it is too
hot or cold you can change it on your way home. https://www.amazon.com/Radio-Thermostat-Programmable-Enabled-Controls/dp/B00KQS35XA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1525636538&sr=8-1&keywords=radio+thermostat+ct50