(Part 2) Best computer input devices according to redditors

Mechanical numpad is a thing. This is a popular one, you can also get it in blue or red switch.

Dank! What numpad is that?

EDIT: Found it

• Where: https://diablo.rivsoft.net
  
  
• How: Diablo 1's source code was recently reverse-engineered, and now the game is available to play on a web browser. Cue iPadOS 13's desktop-class Safari.
  
  
• Req: You need both a mouse & a keyboard, of course.Thankfully, I switched to the wireless lifestyle awhile ago. You also need the data file from the game, either from your own copy or the limited shareware version.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BA6XQI0/ref=sspa_dk_detail_4?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B01BA6XQI0&pd_rd_wg=BVqjq&pd_rd_r=X4CQS9B1E6Q9G89Y8MKW&pd_rd_w=Nse0i

Source if anyone is interested

I've got a Project Zen V1 from rgbkb.net with a case I designed myself. Trackball is a Kensington expert. I am all in on ergodox-style boards, it's just enough keys to let me do what I want to do

Thanks so much! Yup, I used a 13" Cintiq for this project. So much more fun to draw with :)

This is what I run at work https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Expert-Trackball-Mouse-K64325/dp/B01936N73I?th=1

In all seriousness, if you get something like this tablet and a free drawing program that is specifically not ms paint you'd be good to go.

I'm not a pro or anything but I've been drawing digitally as a hobby for years now with a huge range of tablets from super compact to really large and even screen tablets, and a medium sized drawing tablet is literally all you need.

And though I personally use Photoshop, there are plenty of really really good free drawing programs out there as well. I'd probably recommend Krita.

It's a very cool and rewarding hobby.

I'm sorry I can't take a decent picture >_> (Almost) all of the tenkeys I've accumulated over the years along with keysets I've gotten along the way.

From left to right:

• Adesso 22-key with DSA Eve
  
• Leopold 21-key with SA Ice Cap
  
• NPKC 17 with DSA Granite
  
• Leopold 21-key with DSA Dolch
  
• KC21 with SA 1976
  
• Vortex 22-key with DSA Deep Space
  
• Magicforce 21-key with SA Carbon
  
• Varmilo VA22M with SA The Amazing Chocolatier

Been using this for many years: https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Expert-Wireless-Trackball-K72359WW/dp/B01936N73I

ugh, why the thumb trackball? From my experience, they're less precise and a bit more fatiguing on my hand than something like a regular trackball mouse.

Add some programmable buttons like the Kensington Pro and make it a finger-operated trackball; I'd gobble that up.

Tablet Name: Cintiq 13HD

Manufacturer: Wacom

Price: about $1000

Size: 6.5" x 11.5" active area with 1920x1080 resolution (actual device is about 15x10 in)

Features: 5 express keys, 1 "rocker ring" (which is like 4 buttons in a d-pad configuration), 2048 levels of pressure sensitivity, 5,080 lines per inch

Accessories: Pen, pen holder, pen carry-case, felt nibs, spring nib, replacement plastic nibs, cleaning cloth, adjustable stand.

Comments: This is a relatively new product which I was lucky enough to obtain. It is essentially a monitor which has Wacom technology, allowing you to draw on the screen. The monitor itself is high definition (1920x1080) and a reasonable size, about the same as the "medium" intuos size. The main difference between this tablet and other tablets is your ability to see your pen tip and what you are drawing at the same time. It is slightly more natural, and may be easier for someone who is used to pencils/pens to adjust to.

Set-up can be a little annoying if you already have a multi monitor setup. Also the colour contrast on the monitor could be better. Still, it's a nice product, and I have no major complaints about it. I think it is a slight improvement over the Intuos series, and is worth the cost if you plan on using it a lot.

Website: Product Site, Amazon Page

User: /u/Whatsapokemon

i play with a Huion H420 (1) with an extra pen (2). i playd with wacom by a friend (3).
i think wacomstylus is thinner and u can hover higher above the tablet. huion is a simpler tablet. if u buy the tablet just for osu, i think a wacom is wasted potential.
(sry for my english, hope u can understand my point) =)

(1) http://www.amazon.de/Huion-Inches-Portable-Digital-Signature-schwarz/dp/B00DTPYWBG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1427369271&sr=8-3&keywords=huion+h420

(2) http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00DOW6TUQ?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00

(3) http://www.amazon.de/Wacom-CTL-480S-S-Stift-Tablett-Software-Sketchbook/dp/B00ME7HE5Q/ref=pd_sim_ce_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=0C1EBJR4PAKYH6Y5GFZG

quite literally:
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-D68-00007-Trackball-Explorer/dp/B00005853Z

TL;DC: It's $599, $120 USED

Think about this; vanilla was released in 2004. Hardware since then has evolved drastically, to the point where it's very hard to find hardware from 2004. Even the worst hardware, as long as it's modern, would run vanilla just fine, even with integrated graphics.

Do you need that for school? Its price tag is beyond a ripoff.
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-15-6-Inch-Quad-Core-i5-6300HQ-Processor/dp/B015PYYDMQ/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1481783440&sr=1-4&keywords=gaming+laptop

cheaper, better, it'll run current gen. If you need the drawing portion, I recommend just buying an art tablet with it. My only problem with it personally, the only company I've come to trust is Asus. Had bad experiences with MSI and HP, dell is kinda iffy. Now if you are really willing to spend in the 1000$ area, I recommend buying a laptop from Origin PC. Not cheap, but the equivalent to a desktop.

https://www.originpc.com/gaming/laptops/

or if the extra 600 is too much (back to the 1k you were planning to spend)

https://www.amazon.com/K501UW-AB78-15-6-inch-Full-HD-Gaming-Glacier/dp/B01DT49XN8/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1481784540&sr=1-6&keywords=gaming+laptop

Tablets: (don't let wacom fuck you on prices, they're assholes, their shits made in China yet they still charge out the ass because their brand is well known, you can get another better Chinese tablet for a quart of the price. Doesn't seem to be an escape from buying Chinese tablets unfortunately, I have yet to find a US manufacturer).

https://www.amazon.com/Huion-H610-Pro-Graphic-Carrying/dp/B00ZWRSQ4I/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1481784853&sr=8-10&keywords=art+tablet

https://www.amazon.com/Ugee-M708-Design-Graphics-Drawing/dp/B00VUHQECU/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1481784964&sr=8-17&keywords=art+tablet

Looks more like a Microsoft Trackball Explorer.

Don’t laugh those fuckers are like 80 bucks.

https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-SlimBlade-Trackball-Mouse-K72327U/dp/B001MTE32Y/ref=mp_s_a_1_17?keywords=trackball+mouse&qid=1565059705&s=gateway&sprefix=trackball&sr=8-17

I suspect any Wacom digitizer compatible pen should work. This is the digitizer technology that Samsung has been using on its Note phones and tablets. I would look into something like this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Bamboo-Stylus-Galaxy-Black/dp/B00IWJM9SW

Wacom digitizers work in such a way that allow the pen itself to be a "passive" device (i.e. it doesn't have any electrical components). By comparison, the Surface tablets and the iPad Pro use proprietary "active" pen technology, requiring the pen to pair with the device and and emit a specific electrical signal to register strokes. For this reason, Surface Pen and Apple Pencil will not work with a Wacom device.

Good luck! Let us know what you end up with.

My response from another thread we had a while ago, those two are still the only ones I found to work:

I have recently ordered a bunch off Amazon and tested them. I found these two to work well:

Wacom Bamboo Stylus for Galaxy Note: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IWJM9SW

Samsung S-Pencil: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072N31S7C

My personal favorite is the S-Pencil, both because it reminds me of my childhood, and also because of the smooth tip.

I have recently ordered a bunch off Amazon and tested them. I found these two to work well:

Wacom Bamboo Stylus for Galaxy Note: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IWJM9SW

Samsung S-Pencil: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072N31S7C

My personal favorite is the S-Pencil, both because it reminds me of my childhood, and also because of the smooth tip.

I just bought this one and like it a lot.
Wacom Intuos medium
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B010LHRVOY?pc_redir=T1

Yep, true that! . . . This design might even make me switch over to a fingerball from my Elecom M-XT3DRBK thumbball. Which is fuck'n stellar!

Hello fellow racers,

(TL;DR down below)

This build was done in over the course of two days and roughly 21 minutes. Mostly due to other obligations but some planning and testing was done.

The labels I printed myself on a DYMO LT-100H, I also ordered an off brand pack of extra colors to bring some life to the project. The “button box” is a ROTTAT 22-key Numeric Keypad and was the most expensive part of the project.

In the little time that I’ve used it so far I enjoy the mechanical nature of the keys. Since I wear headphones when I play I like that I can feel when I’ve pressed the key. It adds a little extra pizzazz if you will and gives it a seemingly heavier stroke. The biggest con is programming it to the game, some of the keys are not usable with num-lock on/off. So it took some thinking to determine what I would want for the different “states” that I could enable with the num-lock key.



TL;DR $48.26 if you already own scissors, it’s cool so far and I’m happy with it.

They now have a bluetooth version,
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01936N73I

60% keyboards let you position your mouse closer to WASD, so I feel it is more ergonomic for gaming. I usually go [60% Keyboard] [Mouse] [Numpad] on my desk, because when I use a numpad I am rarely also using my mouse.

The good part about having a separate Numpad is I can put it in a drawer when I don't need it, or move it to my left and use it as a macro pad for other apps when I don't need to enter numbers.

Edit: I use a 60% keyboard + separate numpad both at home and work. At work I use a numpad / macropad with customized legends: ELSRA USB Wired Programming Numeric Keypad ControlPad
I got this one to use with my laptop when I was taking an Accounting class in college, that I now keep in my drawer at home: ROTTAY Mechanical USB Wired Numeric Keypad with Blue LED Backlit

You don't sound ignorant! There's no magical way to know this stuff.

I use the program Clip Studio Paint. It's a kind of photshop-lite aimed at digital painters and comic artists. It's pretty cheap ($50 I think?) but not free.

If you don't want to spend money, I would recommend Krita! I used it for years, it's a great free option. A lot of people also like Paint Tool SAI.

Art tools (tablets, pens, ect) often come with their own software, but it's pretty shitty (usually pared-down versions of more expensive software). The programs i mentioned are IMO much better options than the stuff that usually comes with wacom products.

If you're interested in starting with digital art, I can recommend this tablet: https://www.amazon.com/Huion-H610-Pro-Graphic-Carrying/dp/B00ZWRSQ4I/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1511399191&sr=1-6&keywords=drawing+tablet

If you're thinking about getting a new laptop, I would recommend lenovo's 2-in-1s! They work surprisingly well for digital art.

This is the cheapest Wacom tablet

and don't ever let yourself feel limited because you have the "lowest end" Wacom. This person has a Bamboo Connect and it doesn't look like it's holding them back any!
For reference, the Bamboo Connect was the lowest end Wacom tablet four years ago

These lower end tablets do have a smaller surface area. It's about on par with the size of your standard postcard. If you want something bigger but cant afford Wacoms larger offerings Huion is another company I would recommend.

Specifically these two models
Huion H610 Pro

Huion Giano

The reason I favor Wacom is just overall customer and driver support. Huion is just a chinese company and their customer and driver support isn't the greatest. But if you are patient their tablets are just as good.

I only know all this info off hand because I've spent the last two weeks shopping for a tablet myself. I ended up ordering one of these it arrives tomorrow and I can't wait to try it out. If it's disappointing I might return it and order the Huion Giano I linked above.

You insinuating that trackballs are bad? I genuinely love (and have used for the past 3 years) my Logitech M570 and plan on getting the Elecom M-XTv2 so I can switch my M570 to my laptop.

It's a trackball mouse, you don't want it to slide around.
https://www.amazon.com/ELECOM-M-DT2DRBK-Wireless-Trackball-buttons/dp/B0171QQ7FM

Those aren't made anymore. This is the replacement. Came out a few months back. Works nice, almost as good as a logitech.

https://www.amazon.com/ELECOM-Wireless-trackball-function-M-DT2DRBK/dp/B0171QQ7FM

Looks like an old Microsoft trackball i used years ago. Still have it somewhere i think.

Edit: link was obviously not this expensive back in the day. Was like $50 then.

https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-D68-00007-Trackball-Explorer/dp/B00005853Z

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-D68-00007-Trackball-Explorer/dp/B00005853Z/

You think you have it bad, I have two of these, one as backup just in case. I will never be able to afford a replacement in case i cant repair it.

Not yet. I'm thinking about getting something like the Kensington Slimblade

Others have given advice, but I might as well chime in.

The Bamboo is a great little starter pad to play with. I wouldn't reccommend it as a real graphic design tool, but it really is a functional little pad that can get the job done and has some fun extra functionality with gestures and what not. The Bamboo is NOT specifically a graphics tablet though. It can function as one, but it is also touch sensitive and most graphics tablets are not reactive to anything but a pen or a conductive mouse created for the tablet surface. But it does have the same technology as an Intuos tablet, which is amazing tech, so it's very capable.

You can get a Wacom Graphire for around the same price as a bamboo, (I owned one of these for a couple year) and it is made for this kind of thing. It is a decent little tablet, and would be alright for a hobbyist or a beginner, but i'd skip it. But it isn't as advanced as the next type of tablet...

which is an Intuos3 and Intuos4. Here is where I would start. I would actually skip the intuos3 simply because the intuos4 is basically an industry standard now. It's tech is updated often and it is simply a fantastic tablet. The intuos 4 is what most people end up with. There are small, medium, and large versions. The size you get is a personal preferance. It also comes down to desk real estate. Not a lot of desks have a huge chuck of space for a large intuos. The medium is a great compromise of space vs. functionality. And actually, a lot of people prefer the slightly smaller ones to reduce having to move your arm/hand around as much reducing fatigue. Also the price is obviously better for a medium sized one than a large one. There is also the wireless version, which is awesome since you can simply stow it away somewhere quick and easy. I would recommend a carrying case for it though to keep it safe. Even just a small laptop bag would be fine. But it's an investment you will want to keep safe.

Finally you have the amazing Cintiq line. The Cintiq 12WX and Cintiq 21UX and I just learned about the silly Cintiq 24HD.

I have a Cintiq 21UX and it has changed the way I work. It has sped up my workflow and made things so much easier and faster and accurate and simply amazing. (Note I didn't quite pay what they are asking for on Amazon but that's the same model). the cintiq's are expensive as hell, but it's an amazing investment if you are really going to take advantage of it.

Note however, that you can do everything on an intuos4 that you can do on a cintiq. The thing with the lesser tablets under the cintiq is you will have a real learning curve dealing with drawing on your desk/lap while looking at the screen. It's weird and takes time to get used to it. But there is AMAZING art done on them. As I said, they are industry standard and amazing pieces of tech.

So I recommend the Intuos4 Medium or the Intuos4 Wireless in the end.

Hope this helps a little. There are alternatives to Wacom, and some can get the job done, but I won't recommend them as in the end, you want a Wacom.

The problem with recommending a tablet is that I can only in good conscience recommend the stuff that isn't very affordable. Buying a tablet is like buying a car; buy cheap and you'll regret it later, because it'll either not be what you need or break down completely. If you're okay with spending around $200, this one is the model I've used for years now, and it's great: http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Intuos4-Medium-Pen-Tablet/dp/B001TUYTZW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450471682&sr=8-1&keywords=wacom+intuos+4 Still going strong even after all the wear and tear.

Above all, make sure you're really ready to commit if you buy something in this price range. Well, unless you've got a lot of spending money, I guess.

Looks pretty awesome, but ouch - that price tag, even at 47% off pre-order. 'It's a must have for doodlers' with money to burn.

The Wacom Cintiq 13HD is about the same price as the reMarkable is at full price.

Alright well most of the comments here are pretty dumb. My pen broke on the 420 when I had it, buy this

http://www.amazon.com/Huion-Rechargeable-Digitizer-Wireless-Christmas/dp/B00DOW6TUQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404859783&sr=8-1&keywords=huion+wireless+pen

Its rechargable, works on any huion tablet (including yours), and its alot lighter than the other pen. Also the surface/feel of the pen is very sweat proof as an added bonus.

PS. Horo uses it too

Why don't you just buy a less bulky pen then? That's what I did. The Osu! tablet is a reskinned Huion 420 tablet, so it should work on it, because it worked on my Huion 420 tablet. The pen has no battery, so it's just as light as a wacom pen. The only downside to it is that it's not as durable as a Wacom pen. I have experience with both pens.

My stylus still works but I got a Wacom Bamboo Stylus (not real bamboo). I had a $20 credit so it only cost me $8. Well worth it since it feels like a real pen and works with my Note 8 and Note 4.

Wacom Bamboo Stylus Feel for Galaxy Note Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IWJM9SW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_E6r8ybHFTZXYK

For tablets any of the cheaper wacom are a decent choice like Wacom Intous Draw.(You might want to aim for a medium size tablet, I've heard a lot people find the small restrictive on arm movement)

A lot of people recommend the Huion H610 Pro as well.

For software I would personally recommend Clip Studio Paint.
It's a solid digital painting software, and right now is(and frequently is) on sale for 60% off($25USD), and even at it's full price is still more than worth it.

Otherwise there is Krita which is 100% free, and open source.

and of course Adobe Photoshop, which will cost you a monthly fee of $9.99USD.

There are plenty of other software, but I find these 3 fill the niche decently. They each behave a little differently, but essential all lead to the same result, which is dependent how you personally use them.

I would second getting at least a Medium if possible. As soon as you get to school and past the mandatory analog courses, you'll wish you had a larger tablet. Ideally your school will have some Cintiqs to practice on as well, and going from a Cintiq to a small Intuos won't be fun.

So yea, https://www.amazon.com/Wacom-digital-graphics-drawing-painting/dp/B010LHRVOY seems like a good bet

Para qué no lo uso? Es lo más, tengo dos. Empecé a usar porque me jodía la muñeca y ahora lo uso para absolutamente todo. Incluso jugué DOTA, algún que otro FPS y todo...

El grandote con cable lo dejé en la máquina de escritorio y el de bola azul lo llevo en la mochila con la notebook.

También tengo ganas de comprarme éste

After my third (and last) m570 bit the dust, I switched to the wired version of the ELECOM M-XT3. Haven't looked back.

Pok3r pairs nicely with this trackball, I use it daily. I gave up the Logitech m570 after too much mechanical failures in the buttons.

You have a higher DPI and max mm/s track rate is what I mean by sensitivity. The sniper button makes the mouse cursor move quite a bit more slowly allowing small selections (text, very small buttons) much easier.

This is the trackball I use

Elecom Deft is my go to after using the Logitech Optical Trackman.

Check out the Elecom trackballs. Prices have REALLY come down since I bought mine, I think I paid $70 or $80 for the wired version.

Amazon link for wired - $35

Amazon link for wireless version - $50

Most of this user's problem is the utter lack of decent non-thumb trackballs available. Logitech stopped making arguably the best one on the American market (they sell for like $400 now). Your end user may be interested in this product.

Elecom M-DT2URBK

The importance of fundamentals cannot be understated. You wouldn't start construction on a building without understanding the underlying architecture, would you? I know it's difficult, but you really can't afford to skip the essentials when studying any field. You've already seen that taking shortcuts lowers the quality of your finished works, and if you don't change your approach, you have no expectation of changing that outcome. Discipline yourself and build good habits now, and your hard work will pay off in dividends later.

I don't mean to imply that you should banish yourself to the realm of figure drawing and line work forever; nobody should. But it's important to familiarize yourself with proportion and anatomy if only so that your particular artstyle is consistent. Even if you only learn how to make the same mistakes consistently, all your art will improve at once when you learn to correct those mistakes later. Critique is a huge part in identifying weaknesses in your technique and improving your work, but if your work is all over the place, your critique will be, too.

Consider this: what about practicing your fundamentals bores you? What can you do to make it more engaging for yourself? Have you attempted more interesting subject matter or working from more challenging references? Are there any particular perspectives or poses that you like more than others, and if so, why? Have you tried shifting the focus of your work to suit your particular tastes? There are different figure drawing approaches and techniques out there-- how many of them have you tried? Is there anything stopping you from collecting your finished sketches in order to refine them later on?

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As to where to start, you already know about the fundamentals so I'll link another comment of mine to reiterate their importance and move on.

If you're not going to be working digitally at first, I'm a huge fan of these dot notebooks. They're inexpensive, lovely quality, nondescript, and portable, and the dot pattern is convenient for measuring lengths and widths without the visual clutter that actual graph paper can sometimes give you. I carry one with me for doodling, taking down random thoughts, and drawing maps. The covers aren't super rigid, mind, so press lightly or have a firm, flat surface like a hardcover book handy.

If you want to work digitally, you'll need an entry-level tablet of some kind. The Huion Inspiroy H950P is decent for its price point; it's got a fair-sized workspace, eight programmable express buttons, workable pressure sensitivity, and its pens aren't battery-powered so if you lose them, replacements are comparatively inexpensive. My one complaint is that, because I have large hands, I find I hit the tool-swapping button on my pen by accident unless I hold it just so. I work from a laptop, so the fact that it's not wireless doesn't trouble me but is something you may want to consider. Its little brother, the H640P, is about half the price with a smaller workspace and two fewer express buttons.

Digital artists also need software to work in. I highly recommend Adobe Photoshop CC if you can afford it (or are willing to sail the high seas, so to speak) for its feature set. Photoshop is not strictly for digital illustration so making it work just so for you will take more effort than you'd experience with a more specialized tool, but having its powerful features in my back pocket has never been a disappointment. Paint Tool SAI and Krita are the only other software options I can recommend; I don't have enough experience with other tools to give them a shout-out. If you're on a budget, by the way, Krita is completely free and has a fantastic feature set. Whatever you choose, learn it and learn it well.

There's cheap Numberpads on Amazon with Gateron switches like [this one] (https://www.amazon.com/Promotion-Mechanical-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01MZ4Z2DK?crid=3EWF91TMB5K88&keywords=number+pad+mechanical&qid=1536011076&sprefix=Numberpad+mech&sr=8-1&ref=mp_s_a_1_1). That's much cheaper and easier to find than entire boards with the numpad on the left.

Hmmm, you know there are num pads that can even be a calculator?

Look at the Ducky Pocket, or this one made for data entry.

The best num pad might not be attached to your keyboard.

CTL-480

CTL-471

Huion 420

XP-Pen G430

Personally I would recommend the CTL-480

No problem. Also, if you do buy a tablet, the Huion H420 is cheap, but the pen requires a battery which kinda makes the Pen heavy.

That one I linked I like but if you can't afford that, the same company makes This one: XP-Pen G430S which is smaller, but 22.99 rather than 32.99. But I recommend just spending the extra $10.

Noticed Amazon has this side by side. http://prntscr.com/l7v32r

Yeah, but when perfectly serviceable no-name numpads are:

https://www.amazon.com/Numeric-Jelly-Comb-Portable-Computer/dp/B01NBSN2DC/ ($8.99)

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Numeric-Backlit-Desktop-Computer/dp/B07FFLNF5C/ ($17.99)

Something feels a little off. Adding arrow keys and some injection molded plastic costs $90? My god, how do companies that make dolls and action figures ever stay in business?

Their factory looks pretty nice, actually: http://www.ione-usa.com/company-profile.html

So it's not like it's because they're starving and desperately need the money. I wouldn't mind paying that much in the end but it really annoyed me, they're charging whatever they feel like because they know they can get away with it. Price gouging 101.

Kensington Expert Wireless Trackball Mouse

Kensington Expert Wireless Trackball Mouse (K72359WW) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01936N73I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Y0wkDb9VXG6T7

I had a hard time getting my apple trackpad to work well with Linux, this thing rocks on both OS X and Arch

• MTE = Microsoft Trackball Explorer
  
• LCOT = Logitech Cordless Optical TrackMan
  
• LCTFX = Logitech Cordless TrackMan FX
  
  These are older/discontinued models. The Elecoms are new/still being made. I have both the Huge (which is aptly named) and the Deft (considerably smaller) and I really like both. I have the wired versions, so I can't speak to the quality of the wireless/bluetooth. I've not tried the Deft Pro; it seems to be something of a middle ground between the Deft and Huge.
  
  E: added details and links

Adobe has several subscription based packages for their software. I agree with the above comment, Photoshop would be a great place to start. Adobe has a "Creative Cloud Photography" subscription, which gives you Photoshop along with a few programs for photographers. The extra programs may not be helpful but I believe this is the cheapest plan that includes Photoshop, and could be a good place to start. Ultimately, learning a program like Adobe Illustrator to use along with Photoshop would be very helpful, but that will be a more expensive subscription. Best to learn the programs one at a time anyway, at least in my opinion.

Link for creative cloud students plans:
https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/buy/students.html



As for the computer, a Microsoft surface would be a great option, but there are also cheaper alternatives for starting out, like a USB pen tablet. These can be found on Amazon and even the cheaper ones work well.

My friend has this pen tablet and she loves it. Ultimately a tablet computer would be a better option, as it allows you to draw directly on the screen, but if you're just looking to help get him into working in the graphic design world, this would be a much cheaper entry-level option

Huion Inspiroy H640P Graphics... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075T6MTJX?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

I've heard Paint Tool SAI is a really good one. I personally use photoshop although it takes a lot of researching to be able to use it to its max potential but overall amazing


https://www.amazon.com/Inspiroy-H640P-Graphics-Battery-Free-Sensitivity/dp/B075T6MTJX
is the tablet i use! its nothing crazy but shes done me well hehe

I recently bought the Huion Inspiroy H640P for my sister's kids, partly because I wanted them to experience drawing/painting digitally (I set them up with Krita), but also because I wanted to test the tablet. I currently use a Wacom Intuos Art Medium, which serves me well enough (I've been using Wacom products for years). The Huion responded well and I found it to be a quality product. The fact that it was less than half the cost of my Wacom ($50 vs $150) made it all the more impressive. I haven't made the switch myself at this point (although I'll pick one up as a backup soon enough), but for anyone looking to go digital without making a huge investment, I highly recommend that Huion tablet. It's plenty big enough to work on and the drivers seem just as stable as Wacom's drivers.

Edit: if you want to see what I'm making with the Intuos (so, when I say the H640P is great quality, this is where I'm coming from): https://www.instagram.com/johningallsart/

I got something like this except mine wasn't backlit. It's solidly built, cheap, and the mechanical keys feel much nicer than your standard membrane or scissor switches.

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Numeric-Backlit-Desktop-Computer/dp/B07FFLNF5C/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_147_t_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=K9W4DM44P6GNRN0ZZRKQ

Not this cheap but not outrageous as most.

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Backlight-Portable-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01MZ4Z2DK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493812430&sr=8-1&keywords=Magicforce+numpad

Magicforce21, while a Jellycomb is even cheaper but only blue switches.

I got one of these USB keypads to use for extra buttons when I ran out of space on the wheel. Works pretty well, since you can feel around for it while you're in VR, and the mechanical switches mean you're not worried about missing the key.

Don't worry about improving your lap times right now. Worry about trying to run the same lap 5 times in a row. Once you get the consistency down, THEN focus on the actual times. It's hard to know if a change you made has worked or not without having the ability to repeat it!

And as others have said, starting from the back is a good way to get your SR up, so that you're in ranked races. They're much less of a free-for-all, and it's a lot more calming to be with people who won't randomly cut across or do something weird.

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TL/DR: Extra buttons and seat time!

Yeah... I really wish they'd make a non-symmetrical design to take over the gap left by MS's discontinuation of the Explorer and Logitech's discontinuation of the TrackMan.

I do have an Elecom on order, but I'm worried the ball is going to be too much in the center with my hand resting flat. I really prefer my hand to be at more of an angle. But at least the Elecom has a thumb scroll-wheel.

Edit: on the plus side... kudos to Kensington for still making trackballs at all.

my dude, get this one https://www.amazon.com/Ultrathin-Graphic-Digital-Drawing-pressure/dp/B01BA6XQI0/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1527790750&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=xp+pen+g640&psc=1

Personally, I found that I tend to consume media - read, watch, listen, click through links, etc - whenever I was away from a desk/table/counter/whatever with my last laptop.

I find that when I need to work or play I'm usually at some sort of sensible horizontal surface.

So, for me, the SP4 made perfect sense. I hate laptop keyboards with an intensity that makes other people uncomfortable and hate touchpads even more - so I use my SP4 with a Bluetooth mechanical keyboard and a Bluetooth trackball and I couldn't be happier. <3

Well, actually, my next KB will be a 60% BT, but whatever. The point is, I never seem to miss my keyboard when I'm away from it and my usage habits seem pretty typical to me from conversations with other people.

If his left hand is at or near 100%, I'd definitely recommend a trackball. It doesn't have to be that toy-like one, you can get relatively large trackballs that look professional: https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Expert-Wireless-Trackball-K72359WW/dp/B01936N73I/ref=lp_172499_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1542739066&sr=1-3

I've found trackballs are relatively easy to use with your off-hand, so hopefully he won't have too much trouble adapting to it.

What about all of the games that use mouse only? There are great trackballs that work well for people with disabilities.

• BIGtrack Trackball (can be expanded with large buttons for feet or palms)
  
• Kensington Expert
  
• Kensington Slingblade

It's a Microsoft Trackball Explorer. You can have one for the low, low price of $650!

I really hope mine doesn't crap out =\

Kensington Slimblade Trackball.
https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-SlimBlade-Trackball-Mouse-K72327US/dp/B001MTE32Y/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1485093966&sr=1-4&keywords=Kensington+Trackball

I've only used finger controlled ones myself, because i don't like the idea of just using my thumb, and I'm not a gamer. I started out with the kensington orbit optical, and I recently upgraded to the kensington slimblade. I've been extremely happy with both.

You can get a Logitech M570 pretty much anywhere they sell mice, including stores like Target or Staples. Amazon has refurbished ones for about $20. That's a "thumb-style" which means you'll be using your thumb to drive the ball. There are also finger-styles like the Logitech Trackman or the Kensington Orbit. I'm currently using and liking a Kensington Slimblade but at $85 it might be a bit steep for someone who might not even like this particular input method.

Stop by /r/Trackballs for more detailed suggestions and discussion. There are dozens of us!

This link is a pretty good run down on tablets, however the Bamboo is now the Intuos and the Intuos series is Intuos Pro.

tl;dr: If you're doing this as a hobby, think of getting a Bamboo/Intuos or if you're willing to splash money an Intuos 4/5/Intuos Pro.

You can get good deals on second-hand/refurbished Wacom tablets on eBay once you have a look around. I personally wouldn't get anything smaller than a Wacom medium-sized tablet simply because you don't have room to do nice, long strokes.

There are other brands such as Genius and Huion if you're looking to save a bit of money.

So heres the thing. The pen acts like a mouse in all respects to blender with the exception of pressure sensitivity and absolute positioning, as I'm sure you already know.

I am an avid pen tablet user, I've dabbled with blender, and I've been especially a linux user. Now that you know that, let me tell you my thoughts.

Pen input is okay with blender. You can use it as you expect, it takes some figuring out how to get it to work. (Or it did when I was trying to use it.) Getting into sculpting mode, and working with an object was not easy, nor did I find it particularly intuitive to do anything. In short, I gave up... So take my opinion with a grain of salt.

But I will note, that I found something else that works great in tandem with a pen tablet, a 3D Mouse. Personally I got the 3DConnexion Space Navigator http://www.3dconnexion.com/products/spacenavigator.html as something to play with. (You can find them on ebay for half of the retail price.) So throw away your USB Mouse, plug in the tablet, and get a 3D Mouse for moving your 3D objects.

Sadly, the wacom you chose doesn't have a mouse option. That makes me disappointed. I would've recommended looking for a Intuos4 http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Intuos4-Medium-Pen-Tablet/dp/B001TUYTZW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1413163434&sr=1-1&keywords=intuos4

Either way, wacom works great on linux, it's normally built into the kernel so no additional software needed.

The biggest issue that may arise is what to do with the keyboard. For blender it is the most used tool, right next to the mouse. (Duh)... but it's an important part of blender. There is no answer to how to make space, find something comfortable for you, maybe invest in a good keyboard tray. Take into consideration your handedness when placing the tablet.

Just remember, the tablet for all intents and purposes replaces your mouse. Don't think it's a two handed use em both at the same time thing, which is why I recommended the 3D mouse. The biggest issue is switching from the pen to the keyboard, depending on your handedness.

Good luck.

I have one of those fancy drawing, digital pen tablet things. This one specifically.

I'm not getting any presents this year, but if you want to give something. Then i'd like something like this. But thats just selfish thinking of me expecting that 1. You'd wanna pay so much. and 2. That you're going to choose me over that Clean water well idea. But if you don't want to buy me a wacom, i'd also be happy with just a good book or something. I heard House of leaves is good.

Even if you dont pick me or something, I just want to say you are a great guy and props to you for this kind of christmas spirit. This song is for you.

You can get it brand new for $309 on Amazon.com and I don't have to worry about who used it previously.

People have said that the Bamboo is a good tablet and priced well at $59.99.

I personally use the Intuos 4 and I love it. I find the size of the tablet to be fine to work with and the size allows me to throw it in my bag along with my laptop.

IMO, don't even consider anything other than a Wacom. For your price point, get a Bamboo and if you feel you need something bigger/better, sell it and upgrade to an Intuos. I have had an Intuos 3 for several years and love it. The new version is very slick but I don't really have a need to upgrade.

In regards to your specific points:

1. Photo editing is wonderful with a tablet. Both Photoshop and Lightroom are great with a tablet. Much faster and more natural than using a mouse.
   
2. If you want to pick up a fantastic painting / drawing program, check out Painter Essentials, which is a lite version of the full Painter. It really brings the tablet to life (very different than Photoshop's painting).
   
3. You can get a refurb Bamboo for under $50, but they aren't much more brand new.
   
4. There isn't much of a learning curve, though learning to use the hotkeys (Intuos only) will make you more productive. Windows 7 has some very good built-in tablet support.
   
5. This is where Wacom tablets shine - they tend to be more responsive than other tablets. They are the gold standard for good reason. You can also place a sheet of paper over the tablet to give it more texture; it will not affect the tracking/sensitivity.
   
6. I have a medium Intuos; it is a great size. I haven't found myself wishing it were bigger, but maybe I've just used it so much that I'm used to working with that size. I'm sure that I would love a larger tablet, but I think (especially for photo editing) you can get away with a smaller one. Depending on your style, a larger tablet is more important for sketching / painting.
   
   Edit: One final consideration - Intuos comes with a mouse - If you are considering using the tablet as a complete mouse replacement (I use mine in addition to my mouse), I would stay away from the 'small' tablets.
   

In my experience, the buttons on the tablets are far from suitable for tapping. I would just get a mechanical number pad like this if you don't want to pay for a full mechanical keyboard.

Edit: or arcade buttons

Not sure if you are just looking for a number pad, or a keyboard with a modular number pad.

Adesso has a relativity cheap number pad compared to other brands.

Keycool has a better looking number pad for a bit more. I'm not sure if the Keycool number pad's PCB supports LED's. There is another version of it that comes with LED's.

As for a modular mechanical keyboard other than the DSI keyboard, there is the Azio Mech4 and Mech5. They aren't the best looking keyboards but they do have a modular number pad.

For some reason, nobody wants to make a completely bog-standard mechanical keypad. It's absolutely infuriating. Any keypad you buy is going to make you decide.

There's a Filco keypad. But unlike a normal 108-key board's keypad, it has a double-aught. (This apparantly seems to be a thing in Japan, to reduce the number of zeroes one has to enter when dealing with currency.)

There's also the Adesso. But if you note, they give you an Escape key in the main cluster, which shoves all the keys over by one, while adding an entirely superfluous Print Screen button.

So I'm going with this option. Custom PCB.

You can buy this off amazon for around 30, a numpad with mx blues

ADESSO AKB-220B

Cool, how much does the size matter? I saw the Wacom Bamboo create for about the same price but it seems larger (though is less sensitive from what I understand): http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Bamboo-Create-Tablet-CTH670/dp/B005HGBF9W/ref=lh_ni_t

I guess my question is, would it be worth cutting back on size for a more realistic feel of drawing? I might just spring for the medium sized one... I'm torn.

Hey there!

Glad to hear there is another potential animator/artist in the world :)
A lot of your question depends on your budget as tablets can get very expensive very quickly based on size and quality. For instance buying something that lets you draw directly on the screen is going to run you several hundred dollars for the lowest tier models (Wacom Cintiq's are currently considered the gold standard but their monitors and tablets start at over $1000 new so that is out of the question for most people and definitely not worth it for a beginner). So if she's just wanting to explore, a drawing app on a samsung galaxy tablet is a cheaper option that works great for beginners and allows them to work directly on screen. Plus is she loses interest you'll still have a tablet to use for other things.

However most people start with something like a Wacom Bamboo tablet. They are high quality, very responsive, and made by Wacom (the current industry leader) for a much more reasonable price. However you're drawing on a tablet placed on a desk while watching your work on a separate monitor and this can take some serious getting used to. Once you've got it figured out though they're great (they come in various sizes and are used by professionals throughout various industries)!

As for software consider these:
Art/Drawing - Sketchbook Pro

Animation - Anime Studio 10
keep in mind animation programs can be tough to learn so she'll definitely need to watch tutorials online. However this is an awesomely priced option with a lot of great features to make jumping-in easy



If she really catches the animation bug there are two books that are wonderful (although they are thick and may be better for when she is a little older? Up to you but they could make great future gifts):
Animator's Survival Kit by Richard Williams

and

The Illusion of Life by Ollie Johnson and Frank Thomas - Two of Disney's original master animators known as the Nine Old Men

Anyway that's a quick rundown of where equipment and resources stand. If I were you I'd probably go for the bamboo tablet and Sketchbook Pro to get started (for drawing) + Anime Studio 10 if animation is definitely something she wants to explore as all these items are an outstanding value for what they offer.

If things get super serious as she gets older prices begin to jump up very quickly (especially on the software side) but I believe the items listed above should suit her perfectly for at least through all her high school years. As she improves and explores you'll naturally learn what all the tools and options are on your own, as well as what her preferences are.

3D animation as a whole is a different beast that is very computer/technical heavy with a steeper learning curve. So if she wants to start trying that it becomes a whole different realm as you'll need a solid PC and a lot of time and patience when it comes to learning one of the various computer graphics programs out there.

Hope this helps at least a little! Good luck, and feel free to PM any time :)

A kindle Voyage is 199.99

[A 13" touch screen drawing tablet is 750.00] (http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Cintiq-Interactive-Display-DTK1300/dp/B00BSOSCNE/ref=sr_1_19?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1458755541&sr=1-19&keywords=best+drawing+tablets)

[A 13" touch screen USB powered portibal monitor 389.00] (http://www.amazon.com/GeChic-Portable-Touchscreen-Monitor-MiniDisplay/dp/B00XK5A502/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1458755649&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=usb+poured+13+monitor)

That comes to $1338.... And that is just to fulfill my need for a great drawing device, an e-reader, and a touch screen secondary monitor . The 32gb iPad pro with apple pencil is 899.00... plus it does all the other iPad things like apps, email, text, camera.... so on and so on. For me the iPad is incredibly useful and economical. I may be a fringe case but regardless it is working out great for me.

Wacom Cintiq 13HD Interactive Pen Display (DTK1300) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BSOSCNE/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_Lj6Iub0YCKAJ5

get a used cintiq

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00BSOSCNE/ref=sr_1_3_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1485041674&sr=8-3&keywords=cintiq&condition=used

osu tablets are just huion tablets so if you want you could always buy a new pen. The rechargeable ones (the charge lasts like 6months+) are $20. The normal battery ones are around $12.

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>Happened to my old pen too (stock Huion 420 pen). I ended up buying this wireless pen from Amazon and it solved all of my issues. This should solve yours if you have £20 to spare.

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You want to buy this: https://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Bamboo-Stylus-Galaxy-Black/dp/B00IWJM9SW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496999563&sr=8-1&keywords=wacom+bamboo+feel

Here are a few that's compatible with SP2

Wacom Bamboo Stylus Feel .

Fujitsu Digitizer Pen.

Elextako Digitizer.

Wacom Grip Pen UP-911E-02DD.

The Cube iWork 11 uses the "Feel IT" Wacom digitizer, it's only compatible with "UP-" type pens like the Bamboo Feel. Favorite among artists is the UP-911E with two side buttons, rubber grip, and eraser. Make sure you get soft (rubber) nibs if you like more friction when you draw.

Holy smokes, I was gonna give link to the one I bought and didn't realize they're calling all those different types of pens under the same bamboo model.

Mine is one that works with wacom tablets and all the samsungs that used wacom induction tech.
https://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Bamboo-Stylus-Galaxy-Black/dp/B00IWJM9SW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1538068579&sr=1-1&keywords=wacom+bamboo+galaxy+note

is the one I have, I don't know what one would be the updated version.

This one should work: https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-EJ-PT820BBEGUJ-Galaxy-Stylus-Black/dp/B06WD1GVM3/ref=pd_sbs_147_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B06WD1GVM3&pd_rd_r=0fb4abf9-c279-11e8-85d4-ef9f8da44be6&pd_rd_w=HqyoY&pd_rd_wg=pIINS&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=0bb14103-7f67-4c21-9b0b-31f42dc047e7&pf_rd_r=SW2DWY1SE1QGC44HPE7C&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=SW2DWY1SE1QGC44HPE7C

If you search for Galaxy Note stylus they'll work with the pro/plus also. I've tested it with my daughter's old gnote and the gnote 10.1 2014's spen and they both work.

The tech item on my wishlist that I want the most is this Pro Graphic Drawing Tablet. I've been working on a comic book for the past 1-2 years. I have all of the characters, backgrounds, events, settings, and nearly everything in between written down and categorized. Now recently I have been sketching character designs, however I don't have the drawing tablet I need to actually draw the online comic. I can't afford it at the moment, since I'm your traditional "starving student".

I would really appreciate this so much. When I do draw my comic, I plan to post it on taptastic, a comic website that allows you to get paid based on views and subscribers. Hopefully the comic will help pay for school and living, but regardless I just really love creating this world. Thank you very much for this contest!

i got this one right here. It’s cheaper but really good and easy to use

$700 laptop
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-15-6-Inch-Quad-Core-i5-6300HQ-Processor/dp/B015PYYDMQ

$80 tablet
https://www.amazon.com/Huion-H610-Pro-Graphic-Carrying/dp/B00ZWRSQ4I

Thanks... I wasn’t about to drop $300 on a Wacom so I ordered a Huion from Amazon for $75. Reviews said it was good, I took a chance and like it, for Mac and PC. It doesn’t feel cheap and is fairly comfortable to draw on. It has pressure sensitivity but not tilt detection which doesn’t bother me. I have nothing bad to say about it. It can be a bit disorienting not looking where you draw, but if you realize you use a mouse the same way, it’s not as bad. The price alone is reason enough to get your feet wet... even if it does crap out in the future it could give the experience to warrant buying a Wacom for $300 or more.

I recommend the Wacom Intuo Art - Medium.

Typically $200, comes with no frills, and has an active area of 8.5x5.3 inches. Anything smaller for active area is really hard to translate arm movements to on screen. It's got a lot of pressure levels and the stylus is easy enough to hold for long hours of use-but can also be switched for something else. The nibs on the stylus last too. Active area is wide, so it matches the monitors more people have. I use a square monitor right now, but that just means I lose some of the active area to keep vertical and laterial strokes 1:1. Next monitor is planned to be a 16:9 wide format and will give me the full active area with this tablet. Best of all it doesn't have one of those glossy, sliding drawing surfaces that to me feels unpleasent to draw on top of. It's thin and under a pound, easy to put in a laptop bag and smaller overall in width and length than a 14 inch laptop. Extremely portable.

> I want something that feels closest to using traditional medium and natural felling watercolor touch

There isn't anything like that. It's very similar to learning a new medium with the difference in feedback to the hand, friction from the pen, and pressure required to mark the work area. Same goes with the brushes in photoshop. It's something that you just got to jump in and see if it's for you.

I really harp on this model because of the decent active area for the stylus, professional quality of the tablet, and low price. I bought a smaller tablet back in 2006 and I feel like I'm throwing away money buying that small. It's much harder to retrain my hand to draw/paint on it, and sometimes the surfaces are that terrible glossy surface that feels more like writing on a white board. The marginally more expensive tablets in that area tend to pick useless features(basically mappable hotkeys) over active area size unless you're willing to jump to $350+. It's a good, not expensive tablet, that you can figure out if digital art is something you want to add to your work flow without going overboard to invest $400+ on something you might decide after 2-3 months to drop-which is common for people new to digital art.

The only negative for me is the usb cord goes off the top left of the device, and I feel like it should have been top right. It's fine on my laptop, but my desktop means I have to strategicly place the cord to avoid my work area since I keep the desktop to my right and the usb ports are elevated.

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I can't speak for the tablets that you draw on the screen. They typically are heavy, have some type of monitor connector(HDMI, VGA, etc etc), a usb cord, and an extra wall plug at a minimum to function with the laptop/desktop. I know people who do treat them as portable for the job, but their laptop back is like 30 pounds with all the equipment in it. Wouldn't describe it as a portable. I tried a cheap one($600) and it had that terrible smooth screen when you write on(very little friction when using a stylus), so do try to test it before investing that much.

I am using this Wacom Intuos: https://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Intuos-Medium-Touch-Version/dp/B010LHRVOY

There are "Pro" versions, but I've never felt like I needed an upgrade. I got used to drawing on the tablet in maybe two days. It might seem like an issue, drawing on one surface and watch the other, but you hardly notice, eventually. Switching between a paper and a screen-less tablet is also no big deal.

Tablets with a screen, like a Cintiq, are great, but they are costly and not for everybody. I know quite a few seasoned professionals who got a Cintiq and then went back to their screen-less Wacoms.

With that budget I'd recommend this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010LHRVOY/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awd_x_KvkhybATCBNFY

Thanks! I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions i'm going to go for the Wacom Intuos Art MD

Yeah, i do.
Heres a link if you're interested. Originally used the Wacom Bamboo but it just got too old to work
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wacom-Intuos-Draw-Tablet-White/dp/B013ATUR46

Eu estava a olhar para esta. Como não percebo muito do assunto, uma coisa que me deixa na duvida é quando falam que é bom para "begginers". Mas em que sentido? Pessoal que não trabalha com este tipo de mesas ou pessoal que não sabe desenhar? Esta por exemplo seria muito pequena para uma pessoa que tem muita experiência e qualidade a desenhar em papel?

Tieni d'occhio questa tavoletta

Come puoi vedere qui a inizio anno era tra i 55 e i 60, magari scende di nuovo

I neeeed this drawing tablet as I'm starting my art & design class soon and I'd like to start practicing at home!

However I also neeeeed this travel mug for when I work nights and my partner won't let me drink his coffee, he's a big meanie sometimes.

The most basic one is about £50

Less that an Surface, but not peanuts!

I bought the Wacom Intuos Small tablet as I was just wanting to get a feel of the transition, it works pretty well but I do wish I'd gone for a bigger size, however for the £60 it was worth it I think.

I picked up one of these, which I really like. It was cheap enough that I wouldn't feel like I wasted loads of cash if I didn't get on with it.

My next would probably be a Wacom Intuos Pro Small (or Medium). Personally, I don't want a tablet to be too massive.

Elecom MXT. High and low sensitivity switch is great and the programmable buttons are nice. Alt Tab on one button, volume on the other two, it's a pretty solid option.

https://www.amazon.ca/ELECOM-M-XT3DRBK-Wireless-Trackball-function/dp/B016QCPNUW/ref=asc_df_B016QCPNUW/?tag=googlemobshop-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=292925723919&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10153383408756664260&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001598&hvtargid=pla-349694605842&psc=1

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I'm a design engineer, so 80%+ of my day is CAD modeling. I use an (ELECOM)[https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B016QCPNUW/ref=dp_ob_neva_mobile] wireless trackball for my main mouse hand, and I have a 3Dconnection SpacePilot Pro for my secondary hand. I absolutely love both of those. I love that particular trackball because it has three proper finger buttons, so I have a real middle mouse button instead of having to use (and wear out ) the scroll wheel button. I've been using track balls for close to 5 years of constant CAD work with no hand pains. Last year when my fourth Logitech trackball broke, I got a Logitech MX master, but it started giving me wrist pains after 2 weeks of use. That's when I found the ELECOM. If you are heavy into 3D in CAD, and tend to visualize in 3D, then the trackball is worth exploring. At $40 it should be easy to convince your boss to buy you one. My productivity increase is orders of magnitude more valuable than the cost of all the different nice I've used. I just need took find a way to justify a proper mech keyboard once my MS sculpt keyboard eventually dies.

I love trackballs. Though, I can't stand the "finger ball" ones. My preference is the thumb ball ones.

And yeah, Logitech is about the only brand that sells trackballs... but they use shitty parts that break after a couple of years. And for RMA's ... they don't bother asking for the hardware back, they just send you a new one, because they know how shitty their engineering is.....

This is the model I have: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016QCPO0G/

But they have this as well: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0171QQ7IY/

Might check out the wired M-XT3URBK.

Hit the same wall with my M570 over the past two months; all three switches were becoming unusably noisy, even with a good deal of pampering.


I have very long hands and it still feels reasonably comfortable. The ball it ships with tracks extremely well is and very smooth; have heard the exact opposite, but maybe the issues with the previous models have been fixed. Overall seems like a better build than the M570. I've only had it for a couple days, so I can't give any long-term feedback.

Have you looked at the Elecom M-XT3? A lot of m570 users here have tried it and liked it. I personally wasn't satisfied with the build quality of the m570 when I tried it (the middle click in particular was awful). I haven't used Elecom's XT3, but the switches on their DT2 (their fingerball model) are pretty decent. I can't speak to the longevity of Elecom's trackballs though.

The Elecom DT2DRBK is currently £45 with shipping. A little over your budget, but a good trackball. I got the wired version and I love it. Trackballs are kind of a niche product and are kind of expensive. You might be able to get something cheaper, but the one I linked to has tons of customizable buttons, and a sniper switch for going between fine movements and regular usage. That may sound like stuff that's only needed for gaming but having thigns like copy/paste and undo/redo can make you much more efficient at getting work done.

They also have similar models with a thumb ball if you prefer that.

Not sure which trackball you're referring to, but, this is the big one on the right of my keyboard, and this is the one under my monitor, though I switched out the stock ball with the blue ball from the m570.

This one? https://www.amazon.co.uk/ELECOM-Wireless-trackball-function-M-DT2DRBK/dp/B0171QQ7FM/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1504967903&sr=8-3-fkmr1&keywords=M-DT2+elecom

I have a fairly cheap Elecom mouse with a good amount of buttons I use to switch between edit tools and set markers on the fly.

ELECOM M-DT2DRBK Wireless index finger Trackball mouse , EX-G series L size 2.4GHz 8 buttons Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0171QQ7FM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_wQ6TAbTAC0CBV

I tried to switch to that, but just couldn't do it. I had the Microsoft trackball that you used with your fingers and then left and right mouse were with your thumb. Then you had two more mouse buttons you could hit with your ring or pinky finger.


I loved never "falling off" my mouse pad, but ever having to press both left and right mouse buttons together I had to get creative if I still needed to move. I was saddened the day it finally died.


edit for reference: http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-D68-00007-Trackball-Explorer/dp/B00005853Z
I just feel it was way more precise with two/three fingers moving together than trying to do it with my thumb.

Trackballs! The good ones are all discontinued.

Logitech

Microsoft

This one was/is my favorite

Edit: Agree - Finger control far superior.

That would probably work, I always found the thumb ones awkward though. Microsoft explorer this one was my favorite just had all the ergonomics. Had to clean it fairly often though haha

no thanks.
Now, if you were to make a model like THIS, I wouldn't be able to give you my money fast enough.
nearly $500 new on the private market, I fear the day either of mine die. (I have one at home, one at work. Both are 11+ years old)
Read the reviews, there is a serious cult following for these things.

Trackballs = Profit.

I sold two old Microsoft Trackballs for around $150 each on Amazon. They are now going for $169-$498 dollars!!

At my last job, people would just take someone else´s mouse if their own one was gone (vicious circle). I had one of these bad boys at home, so I brought it to work and soon I was working faster with the trackball than with a mouse. And it sat on my desk for a year and never got stolen, because I was the only one in the office who could use it properly. I also had a laugh whenever the boss tried to use it to show me something, he was pushing the base around on the desk and couldn´t figure out why it wouldn´t work.

I was a big fan of the MS Trackball explorer https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-D68-00007-Trackball-Explorer/dp/B00005853Z

I recently bought both the Kensington Expert and the Elecom fingerball variant.

The elecom is indeed quite small. Nonetheless it is perfectly usable.

I still like to use the Kensington Expert for its larger trackball (I am so curious about the SlimBlade but I can't spend the money when I have two functional trackballs already). But the Elecom feels very smooth and more responsive for gaming.

Whoops, should have said Amazon.

Damn that is spendy for a 220DPI trackball.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00005853Z/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1349023503&sr=8-1&keywords=microsoft+trackball+explorer&condition=new

and the DPI numbers...

http://www.reddit.com/r/Trackballs/comments/wi51v/trackball_dpi_calculated_from_user_testing_still/

Kensington Slimblade Trackball USB 2.0 for PC and Mac, K72327US by Kensington

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001MTE32Y/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_5q9htb181B7EQ

Hands down the best $90 I've ever spent.

I have the slimblade and my brother has the expert and I much prefer the slimblade. It has a very low angle and doesn't require you to bend your wrist up (but that also depends on your set up, posture...).

I like the larger buttons on the slimblade and that the scrolling is built into the ball. But some people prefer the distinct buttons and the scroll ring on the expert.

I'm glad I chose the slim blade, but the premium for it may not be worth it for you.

Looks good, I use this one from time to time.

I appreciate the offer, but I doubt I will have the time anywhere in the near future to dedicate to building one.

I love your trackball suggestion though, this one looks pretty good and seems to come with a software that looks like it could be used to disable all the clicking areas: https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-SlimBlade-Trackball-Mouse-K72327U/dp/B001MTE32Y

Only issue is what I would do for the mouse buttons. Any suggestions in that regard? Ideally I would be able to have the same left, right, back, and forward buttons I have on my current mouse, but most solutions I see online are only single or paired pedals (and priced kinda ridiculously tbh).

As I was typing this I realized another issue, what to do about a scroll wheel? I make heavy use of the scroll wheel, but I cannot see myself replication the action with my foot or toes... Maybe some kind of toggle to switch the trackball to a scroll wheel? Maybe a second track ball for the other foot? Would still be less than ideal since I make frequent use of the click action of a scroll wheel, but maybe I can rig that action to my keyboard using Auto hotkeys.

Try it. As a lefty mouser, I’ve found Kensington’s big trackballs (especially the Trackball Pro) to be indispensable.

[this one](http://Kensington SlimBlade Trackball Mouse (K72327U) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001MTE32Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ZZz3DbZHP9SBY) is my current, I love the shit out if it but I need a new mouse for my new cad machine and I think this is the winner, thanks op

Not wireless, but you can get a Kensignton Slimblade under $50 if you purchase it at the Amazon warehouse.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B001MTE32Y/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used

I bought mine there for $40 not long ago. It was supposedly scratched (very good condition), but from what I could tell the box was just slightly scuffed up. Works as good as new.

Bit late on the reply here,

but I found out how to optimize my onenote set up after months of tinkering around

To answer the original question, there isn't actually a need for me to run Microsoft Surface Tablets (I looked up their cost, goes around $600 to $1000 as well) for Pro3

There's actually a 4th and a 5th option to all of this (I mentioned the other 3 in the post)

Option 4:

One desktop, 2 monitors, and a more effective mouse, with macro and fine tuning controls. You would be suprised what you can accomplish with a great gaming mouse (I just bought a logitech g502 for like $60). You can bind a specialized key that can change your DPI settings temporarily to get incredibly high tuned pen strokes on your mouse. There's also the option to change weights giving an even more closer pensmanship with a mouse. Plus I can modify massive numbers of macros (with this mouse, if I use all 3 profiles, I think I can map about 20 key combinations and G-shift [its like holding ALT to get more commands], although I wouldn't need that many)
I normally use the macros for ALT+1, ALT+2, ALT+3, ALT+4 for my quickaccess toolbar commands

Mouse i use:

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Proteus-Tunable-Customizable-910-004074/dp/B00IRHE892/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1419051767&sr=1-1&keywords=g502

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Option 5:
One Desktop, 2 Monitors. Run a mouse, and a wacom tablet (essentially a 2nd mouse) see

http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Intuos4-Medium-Pen-Tablet/dp/B001TUYTZW

for reference
While I haven't done this yet, in theory it works. The wacom tablet is more or less a mouse in the form of a pen with comfortable tablet that just acts as a mouse pad. The wacom tablet enables you to have high precision pen strokes in a specific area if you want handwritten notes. The normal mouse you use just helps you navigate around onenote.

^I currently use option 4. Option 4 and 5 are all better than option 1,2,3 since it just runs on one desktop so there's no syncing errors. Option 4 satisfies all my needs. Plus surface pro runs a full copy of onenote and I only get 2 liscenses on my subscription (I have a home computer and work computer, so having a tablet - aka a 3rd liscense, would not work).

The addition of a tablet blows Photoshop wide open. Seriously, it opened up a whole new world of capabilities and things i could do that were never an option before. /u/vandebar is right in saying it won't make your drawing technique any better (in fact, I find the stylus/tablet interface a bit less forgiving than pencil and paper), but it will allow you to do things in PS that that were nearly or totally impossible with a mouse. I have an Intuos 4 (current generation is the Intuos Pro ); it's served me well for 3 years.

It's funny that you say that, because I have one of these, although I haven't used it for Rust yet.

Drawing tablets really aren't something to skimp on. You're going to get a postage stamp with 10 second delays which will make digital art a giant chore if you try and get the cheapest thing you can.

If you're just trying to practice art then spend $100 getting a kit of prismacolor colored pencils, quality drawing pencils, erasers, and sketchbook. You'll get all the same practice.

If you're doing this to make money and take commissions, you're going to want to just wait a while and save your money and drop $230 or so on a used Wacom Intuos.

I bought a Wacom Intuos4 (Medium) last week. There is a learning curve since you have to program the various buttons and transition to the tablet from your mouse and keyboard. However, once you have get a grasp of the basics, retouching work is a bit quicker.

Compare prices online and in stores. I'm not sure why, but Best Buy had this tablet on sale for $300 when I bought mine. The sale appears to be over.

This or this. The second one is out of stock at the moment, I have one, but it's a bit rickety and very light. I've never used the Filco, though I think it is recognized as num row input, not numpad.

EDIT: Then there's this bad boy.

I bought a Adesso AKP-220B for $30 off amazon (for some reason its listed at $50 right now). It has real cherry blues in it. And while it might be a bit ugly, its perfectly fine to me.

if it's only for osu you might want to look at stuff like this

I bought my MX blue keypad from Addesso off amazon. http://www.amazon.com/ADESSO-AKP-220B-Adesso-Mechanical-Numeric/dp/B0038KN3YY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1409273001&sr=8-2&keywords=adesso+number+pad
There's also an MX Brown one from filco: http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-TenKeyPad-Tactile-Numberpad/dp/B000MGBPNI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409272948&sr=8-1&keywords=cherry+mx+number+pad

If you dont mind buying from Amazon - ADESSO AKP-220B

The layout is different than normal, but it's a lot cheaper.
Cherry MX blues instead of browns and not blue LED backlit.

Are you looking for something like this?

http://www.amazon.ca/Adesso-AKP-220B-Mechanical-Numeric-Keypad/dp/B0038KN3YY

This is cheap, but I haven't tried it myself:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0038KN3YY/ref=pe_171930_123757510_em_1p_0_ti

Not trying to hijack the post, but I could use some advice as well.

I current have a Wacom Bamboo Pen Tablet (a couple of years ago).

I about the Bamboo Pen Tablet because it was really cheap and I wasn't sure if I would actually use it. I actually use it a bit and was quite happy with it. However as I've worked with it more, I feel that it might be time to upgrade.

Currently the main issue with the tablet is that it's pretty small. As the table mimics the screen, it makes it harder to do more precise drawings. Other than that it's perfectly functional.

In any case, I want to upgrade to a better and definitely bigger tablet without spending too much money (I am a poor college student after all). I don't want to spend over $200. What are some tablets I should be looking out for?

Right now I'm thinking about Bamboo Create Pen. However, I'm not sure if it's a significant enough upgrade or if I should just be looking to spend even more money for a better value.

What do you guys think? Should I just stick with my Bamboo Pen until I actually can spend money?

Sorry if this was inappropriate. I just didn't want to spam this subreddit with another self post of a similar subject..

This is the tablet I'm using. It is kind of like a digital piece of paper that works like a mouse. I was using Corel Painter, but you could use photoshop or any other kind of image making program.

It is not like an iPad, which I suppose they also call tablets. This is an older technology.

Use this Bamboo, and I love it. It's pretty cheap, but does most everything I want it to.

Check with your school's IT office or such, most schools will have drawing tablets for you to check out. My school has ~10 Wacoms for rent.

Photoshop and Illustrator will be your main two. I've found learning InDesign to be a great help though on some projects. Learn SketchUp too!

Thank you!

I have a Wacom Bamboo Create, except with a different pen than in that picture. It took a while to find the best place to put it on my desk, and it took even longer getting used to the movement between the pen and the screen, but now it's pretty comfortable to use for almost anything except games. Sometimes I feel like the wire is a nuisance but I don't want to spend the money on batteries to make it wireless.

How are you learning digital sketches now without a wacom?

It appears they don't.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005HGBF9W

Morthy's demands:

• Unfortunately, I have nothing that would make me seem like an old posh Englishman. Sad day.
  
  
• Item I wouldn't want to be caught in public with- this taxidermy deer head.. it might freak some people out. I think it's beautiful though.
  
  
  
• most phallic looking item: this microphone off my photography list. See also, the item I chose for "best item to bring to a deserted island."
  
  
  Akeleie's demands:
  
  
• most geeky item- R2D2 necklace <3 on my "want" list --OR-- this shirt off of chocowafer's wish list
  
  
• item that would help me achieve my goal of expanding into digital drawing- bamboo tablet on my "need" list
  
  
• Best item to take on a deserted island- well I don't have any flares on my wish list so I'm gonna have to go with.. the lightsaber sucker. I'm hoping it lights up pretty bright. If not, at least it'll be a nice last treat before i probably die alone. on my "under $15" list

Okay so I feel weird suggesting this.. I like the idea of others commenting/voting.. but people are telling me to post, so I will. :x

1. First and foremost, this Wacom tablet. I've been itching to get back into digital artwork along with my traditional stuff. (RA default)
   
   
2. Kindle Fire HD... obviously, heh. But it would be for my fiance, since he needs a tablet. :3 (RA default)
   
   
3. Bluetooth Keyboard Case for my tablet. (RA default)
   
   
4. Dan Brown's Inferno Kindle edition (Media)
   
   
   
5. Cute coat (Clothes)
   
   
6. Ankle boots (Clothes~)
   
   
7. theBalm nude tude palette (Makeup)
   
   
8. Cards Against Humanity (RA default)
   
   
9. CAH 2nd expansion (RA default)
   
   
10. CAH Third Expansion (RA default)
    
    
11. 20th century art book (Educational)
    
    
12. Cute blouse (Clothes)
    
    
13. Mirror for fiance (For S.O.)
    
    Total = $580.34, so that leaves $19 for the garbage heap. :D

this

this

Lets just buy her everything!

This tablet seems really cool!

from default: Kindle Fire
, Wacom Tablet
, and Cards Against Humanity

from her Makeup list: theBalm Nude Tude

for her bf Shave Mirror and food scale

from NSFW: Lelo

from clothes: Coat

from educational : Art Book

and from media :Pan's Labyrinth

adds up to $590.90

I decided to go with this one:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005HGBF9W/ref=ox_ya_os_product

This crops up pretty frequently.

Your options boil down to free, cheap, and expensive.

Your free option is Gimp, which I can't stand but other people like. The interface isn't made for normal humans with normal human brains but it works just fine, and it does everything photoshop does.

Your cheap option is paintshop pro, which is what I use. It's easy, and does most of the things photoshop does.

Your expensive option is photoshop. Photoshop does everything, and isn't too bad to use, but costs roughly four million dollars and a pint of your blood. monthly.

If you're going to commit to drawing your maps on the computer machine, you should think about getting a reasonably priced drawing tablet. I use a wacom bamboo tablet, and it works very well. I used a mouse for a long time, and I didn't think a tablet would make that much of a difference, but it does.

Kindle Fire HD 8.9" without special offers(ads), the drawing tablet, and Cards Against Humanity.

None of the tablet computers on the market are really very responsive enough - plus, palm control is a thing. So, I'd skip buying a tablet computer for drawing purposes.

However... if you are serious about it, and want to shell out a fat stack of cash, Wacom has a pretty good option

Barring that, my advice is keep practicing with the angle you hold your tablet at. I know it's hard to look at the screen and not down at your hands, but you'll get used to it with time.

> Where do you live? Can't you just buy them online? The prices you're listing are more than twice as much as they go for online. Not to mention Wacom products are the industry standard but they're also pretty much the most expensive by far.

Brazil. I can buy it online but the import fees are insane:

https://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Cintiq-Interactive-Display-DTK1300/dp/B00BSOSCNE/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1510319497&sr=1-3&keywords=Cintiq

> Price: $799.93 + $822.53 Shipping & Import Fees Deposit to Brazil

iPad Pro would not only be much cheaper but also has international warranty so even if my product was bought in US I could still get Apple in Brazil to fix/replace it. If I bought a Cintiq on amazon I would have to send it to Wacom in US and pay import fees again when they send it back.

> Also, why bother trying to sell the Clip Studio license? That would fetch you like less than $20, if anyone was willing to buy a serial number they have no way of stopping you from using again after sell in the first place.

It's an Clip Studio Ex license which goes for $80~$90 on sale, but yeah that makes sense.

Hello!

I've recently purchased myself a tablet with a screen on it (a Wacom Cintiq) and I've been very happy with it! Wacom tablets will always be the top of the quality chain as far as graphics tablets go, but unfortunately they are very expensive. Wacom is of impeccable quality, though, and is definitely worth the money!

Luckily, though, there are alternatives for screen-tablets, but I haven't tried them myself so I cannot testify their quality (buy at your own risk). It's definitely going to depend on your budget, as well, since screen-tablets can go for anywhere between $500 - $3000. I'll post some links to Amazon products below.

This is the standard size Wacom Cintiq: Click here. Its screen is 13 inches, and offers great quality on Wacom's cheaper spectrum. At $800, it's still a little pricey, though.

This is a good alternative, the Ugee 19-inch screen tablet: Click here. The reviews on this one are quite good, and at $430 it's definitely much cheaper than the Wacom.

There are a few variations on Amazon so you can check out a few more of them. Please do make sure you look up plenty of reviews before deciding, though! You don't want to skimp much on screen-tablets, because you really do get what you pay for. Good luck!

Do you have a link? The ones I can find all require a PC or Mac. Example

That's not Wacom's cheapest model. The cheapest on amazon.com is $800:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BSOSCNE/ref=psdc_16034531_t1_B01M4S3BAV

Tablets don't really work like that.

There's only really two types of tablets. You have the cheaper ones that let you draw but you have to learn how to look at the screen while you're drawing ( https://www.amazon.ca/Wacom-Intuos-Touch-Small-Tablet/dp/B00EN27U9U ) or the expensive ones that have a screen on them ( https://www.amazon.ca/Wacom-Cintiq-Interactive-Display-DTK1300/dp/B00BSOSCNE )

I own the Intuos and I love it. Drawing is only a hobby for me and I don't think I'm good enough to justify a Cintiq yet, however the price range isn't out of reach for anyone who's serious about drawing.

One isn't really better than the other for drawing webtoons, it's just a matter of learning how to draw, learning how to paint digitally (because that's a skill in itself!), and learning how to tell a story through comic form.

Hope this helps!

I have used wacom products for a while and I love them. I used a wacom bamboo for a LONG time and it worked well enought (though small) for a long time.
http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Bamboo-Splash-Tablet-CTL471/dp/B0089VGPII

Right now I use a wacom cintiq 13HD and I love it. It works almost flawlessly for me and I can't imagine switching back to something else.
http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Cintiq-Interactive-Display-DTK1300/dp/B00BSOSCNE/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1451245108&sr=1-1&keywords=wacom+cintiq+13hd

I used some wacom knock offs too. They work rather well and the prices are really competitive like the one for the yiynovia brands.
http://www.amazon.com/Yiynova-MSP19U-Monitor-Windows-Solution/dp/B009QQ7BG0/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1451245197&sr=1-1&keywords=yiynova+tablet

I had an older version of the above tablet for a while and it lasted about 6 months before it just stopped working for me. It kind of turned me off to those knock off brands but other people have had great things to say about them so I don't know for sure. Good luck in your search.

A 100$ entry level Wacom tablet will work for most if your looking at most basic jobs. What most use now if they are not migrating to the iPad Pro is the Wacom Cintiq. Its basically a very limited iPad Pro! Lol, But they have been used for years in fashion, graphic design and animation on feature films.

If you need a laptop as well, then get the surface. The companion 2 actually has some pretty worrying reviews, so I'd stay away from that. The Cintiq HD^((1)^) on Amazon has pretty good reviews, though it could be better. Honestly, if you buy from Amazon, you're probably fine. I don't know about 3rd parties, or even Wacom themselves though.

(1) http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Cintiq-Interactive-Display-DTK1300/dp/B00BSOSCNE


Edit: Dafuq is with the formatting issues?

Hey man, everybody started somewhere. I'm also nowhere near the level of what I see here, but I'm way better than I was 4 years ago. Hell, I'm better than I was a week ago.

Considering your being a college student, the Wacom tablets are likely to be out of your price range so if you have parents who like to get you a big present for Christmas it might be worth mentioning to them. This is the one I bought 3 years ago for myself and it has been great, but I'm sure there are also more affordable options out there.

As for software, Corel Paintshop Pro might work for you and they offer a free trial, so check that out. I'd much rather pay a lump sum of $50 than $9 every month for a year, but I can afford it and Photoshop is quite good, so I don't mind for now. There are also free softwares out there you can find and utilize, but they won't have the same amount of features and most don't have pen sensitivity software and whatnot, which I personally like.

Anyway, good luck on your journey!

You can buy better pen to ur huion
EDIT: Its this if i remember correct. https://www.amazon.com/Huion-Rechargeable-Digitizer-Wireless-Christmas/dp/B00DOW6TUQ/ref=pd_sim_147_1/182-0671310-5592505?ie=UTF8&dpID=314-IKjK-LL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=ZRJ6PA8FCXZHPF10Z552

Yes, this one

I like it and yes is thinner and lighter. But its almost the price of a XP-Pen G430 too :P. You decide if its worth.

I just bought it because the original pen broke in the spiral thing that seals the battery and it seems like it would do it again on any AAAbattery pen (design flaw).

https://www.amazon.com/Huion-Inches-Tablet-Graphics-Drawing/dp/B00DTPYWBG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?keywords=huion+420&qid=1563829241&s=gateway&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1

Pen:
https://www.amazon.com/P80-Rechargeable-Digitizer-Digital-Graphics/dp/B00DOW6TUQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_2_sspa?keywords=huion+420+pen&qid=1563829302&s=gateway&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&smid=A31PCBBJFOHWCY

Unless you feel like moving your arm a lot, then I wouldn't recommend playing with the whole tablet area anyways, since it's specifically for osu. I personally only use a quarter of the total area of my 420. I also find little to no latency from tablet to computer as well.

On the flipside, the 420's pen is rather uncomfortable and impractical. There's this one on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Huion-Rechargeable-Digitizer-Wireless-Christmas/dp/B00DOW6TUQ/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0GE2RFT55BKPC1YRTG9H though I have yet to try it out. Another downside of this tablet is that you have little room to rest your hand on relative to other, larger tablets, though depending on your playstyle that may not even matter.

Overall, the tablet is a solid tablet that gets the job done for osu!, and it's only $20. If you have any intentions of drawing, then I'd dish out the extra money and go for a CTL-480, but just for osu I'd go for the Huion 420.

get this. you save more money because rechargeable
http://www.amazon.com/Huion-Rechargeable-Digitizer-Wireless-Christmas/dp/B00DOW6TUQ/ref=pd_cp_pc_3

You can try this , tho i dont know if you wanna pay the price of the tablet again just for a pen

No, that's just another battery pen I think. You can buy a separate pen entirely that's a different shape and has a rechargeable battery, unless I'm mistaken about the osu pen

Here http://www.amazon.com/Huion-Rechargeable-Digitizer-Wireless-Christmas/dp/B00DOW6TUQ

I mention it because the weight may be distributed more evenly

Here is the mobile version of your link

A stylus can be any little stick that you use on your screen. A stylus with an active digitizer is what you want for drawing - popular examples are Wacom and the S-pen. Styli without an active digitizer are basically only good for touch commands (think the biggest pencil tool in MS Paint). /u/cereuc's comment about "crayon style" is very accurate.

The Surface Pro 1 is a perfectly acceptable drawing tablet since they added the WinTab drivers. Source (Disclaimer: auto-start Youtube video that's kinda loud)

I don't know anything about the Cintiq honestly, but what could be so special about tilt recognition? My oldest smart phone has that. A Wacom stylus (read: an active digitizer) does typically add a lot to something's price.

As far as I know, the Jot stylus is strictly for iOS systems (iPads). Any active digitizer is good for drawing, there are just several brands out there - again, like Wacom and the S-pen for Samsung devices.

Edit: The tilt recognition is in the stylus, got it. Unless that's something you'll use frequently (sounds like a calligraphy thing), I don't think it's worth the price tag.

Edit2: You can generally mix and match styli and tablets, but you need to make sure the software matches. There is software in both the tablet and the stylus that determines whether it's digitizer-enabled or just capacitive.

For example, the Bamboo styli are commonly paired with Samsung Note tablets because some people prefer the thicker "pen" feel over the thinner "pencil" feel of writing. Here's what the Note 10.1 stylus looks like for the sake of comparison.

It has to be a Wacom Feel stylus. The ones I know that work are:

http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Grip-Pen-UP-911E-02DD/dp/B00014HR3I/ref=cm_rdp_product


http://www.amazon.com/Fujitsu-Digitizer-replacement-Stylus-T5000/dp/B00791UTH2/ref=cm_cd_ql_qh_dp_t


http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Bamboo-Stylus-Galaxy-Black/dp/B00IWJM9SW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1463477066&sr=8-1&keywords=wacom+feel

I use a Samsung Ativ Tab 3 myself for exactly that purpose. It can't cope with Drawboard PDF (specifically), but it's perfectly fine for Microsoft Office and OneNote, and pretty much any other pdf annotator I've tried. In a pinch, you can use something like Splashtop to remote into your desktop, but I've only needed to when I've taken it on weekends away.

The digitizer is perfect, I have no complaints. It's just as good as the much more expensive specialist Tablet PC I have from about five years ago. I'd really much rather use the Ativ than cart that brute about.

Atom has the advantages of being lighter, cheaper, and having seriously long battery life. And the Ativ is thinner than a paper notebook.

With that set of priorities, I have no hesitation in recommending it. Just don't try to play Hearthstone while your virus scanner is actively doing a scan. That... didn't go so well.

EDIT: And buy several of these - the Galaxy Note variant. I've tried both, and those work best (I think it's the same digitiser as the Note 10.1?)

There are several styluses that will work on Samsung devices w sPen (Notes, Tab A w sPen, MS Surface pro 1/2..)

Wacom Bamboo Stylus

Wacom Bamboo Smart Stylus

Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 S Pen with Eraser

Fujitsu Stylus Pen

Wacom Grip Pen UP-911E-02DD

IMHO, they all suffer from cursor off-set with the exception of the new "Wacom Bamboo Smart Stylus" that seems to be most comparable to an actual sPen. The other choice is the Samsung Spen w Eraser. If you are comfortalbe with pen offset the Fujitsu and Wacom grip have two side buttons.

You may consider getting the newly released Samsung Galaxy Tab A with S Pen 10.1. It has comparable performance to the Note 2014, but the Spen technology is better with 2046 (maybe 4096..) levels of pressure (double) and tilt recognition. Currently only Clover Paint, and Art Rage recognize stylus tilt, and possibly the beta version on Infinite Painter.





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http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Bamboo-Stylus-Galaxy-Black/dp/B00IWJM9SW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1458142347&sr=8-1&keywords=wacom+feel

this works great with it. has a soft nib as well like the sp4 pen.

http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Bamboo-Stylus-Samsung-CS300UK2/dp/B00IWJM9SW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417682368&sr=8-1&keywords=wacom+bamboo+feel

so this is a good option?

Wacom Bamboo Feel and the Fujitsu T5000 are both popular choices.

I've used both, but prefer the Fujitsu one because it has two buttons plus the eraser on the top.

I have one of the nice Wacom styluses from Amazon.com, can't remember the model. It's the one that looks like a real pen with a cap and pocket clip, Love it. It makes the CB so much more comfortable to use. It wasn't cheap, but worth every penny.

It was like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Bamboo-Stylus-Galaxy-Black/dp/B00IWJM9SW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1503171375&sr=8-1&keywords=wacom+stylus+samsung

two dollars over budget.

:( sorry.

seriously though, if youre in the market for a budget tablet, that might be your best bet. check out the frenden review here.

*edit - as for the making things easier... *shrugs I used to use a tablet. then i switched to a mouse when my tablet died (it was like 9 or 10 years old though). i used a mouse for a couple years. i just recently got a new wacom for my birthday and ive been using that exclusively for the last little bit.

TBH, i think it comes down to you. if youre doing alot of paint-based things.... like sculpting, joint-weighting, vertex mapping....that kinda stuff is definitely easier. everything else? meh. its totally a preference. I'm kinda indifferent to one or the other. but my mouse died so... now i use a tablet. my CTS/RSI ^^^*web ^^^md ^^^diagnosed acts up alot less though...which is a big bonus with the tablet at the moment.


(also if youve never used a tablet before, it'll take some getting used to at first)

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=a9_asi_1?rh=i%3Aelectronics%2Ck%3Atouch+screen+monitor&keywords=touch+screen+monitor&ie=UTF8&qid=1493224706

https://www.amazon.com/Planar-PXL2230MW-22-Inch-16-Touchscreen/dp/B00BBLFOY4/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1493224785&sr=1-10&keywords=touch%2Bscreen%2Bmonitor&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/Planar-PCT2235-Screen-Monitor-Helium/dp/B01E06JSI4/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1493224785&sr=1-4&keywords=touch+screen+monitor

The only reaosnably priced and sized options i can find on amazon. But I would really suggest getting a normal IPS monitor and a Wacom drawing tablet, which can be upgraded indepently and should make the drawing process way more natural feeling.

Assuming you can get a $100 monitor itll work out the same

https://www.amazon.com/Huion-H610-Pro-Graphic-Carrying/dp/B00ZWRSQ4I/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1493225137&sr=1-5&keywords=drawing+tablet

https://www.amazon.com/Wacom-CTL490DW-Digital-Drawing-Graphics/dp/B010LHRFM2/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1493225137&sr=1-4&keywords=drawing+tablet

Wacom: https://www.amazon.com/Wacom-uCTH490AK-Graphics-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B06XYRYW8R/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_147_lp_t_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=FTA8KA3KYQBSDYAFH7SA

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Huion: https://www.amazon.com/H610-Pro-Graphic-Drawing-Carrying/dp/B00ZWRSQ4I/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1542155905&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=huion+tablet&psc=1

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Apple Pencil (ipad Pro): https://www.amazon.com/Apple-Pencil-iPad-Pro-White/dp/B016NY7784/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1542155928&sr=1-3&keywords=apple+pencil

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Capacitive Stylus (normal ipad): https://www.amazon.com/Zspeed-Stylus-Screens-Compatible-Digital/dp/B07HQGZSH4/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1542155928&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=apple+pencil&psc=1

This is the Wacom tablet I use. It's fairly cheap but still does the job for someone like me who is just getting into this whole digital art business. Art wise it really depends on what you want to do, if you're into pixel art at all there's a great application out there called pyxel edit you can get for $10 and there's youtube tutorials that tell you both how to use it and how to think about character creation in a 32x32 tile form. Other than that, Adobe is the standard for pretty much everything AFAIK https://www.amazon.com/Huion-H610-Pro-Graphic-Carrying/dp/B00ZWRSQ4I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498843868&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=huion+h610+pro&psc=1

Huion makes a copycat that I know some people like. I have tried it, and found it laggy (with a then 4-year old macbook pro).

I suggest getting a starter tablet like one of the 2 I linked. Many people don't have issues with offbrand tablets but Wacom is seen as industry standard and is a bit expensive. So that is why the Huion seems to have more for the same price. So yeah, get a cheaper tablet and maybe pay for some software. Good luck!


https://www.amazon.com/Huion-H610-Pro-Graphic-Carrying/dp/B00ZWRSQ4I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491776838&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=wacom+drawing+tablet&psc=1


https://www.amazon.com/Wacom-CTL490DW-Digital-Drawing-Graphics/dp/B010LHRFM2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1491776838&sr=8-3&keywords=wacom+drawing+tablet

I throw in a second vote for the Huion. I have the
[Huion h610 pro $75](Huion H610 Pro Graphic Drawing Tablet with Carrying Bag and Glove https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZWRSQ4I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_5ktXzbN8XWCN2) (this is Amazon's price but I got it for $55 brand new on eBay 1 year ago) and honestly I think it's better than Wacom and only a fraction of the price. I've never owned a Wacom myself, but when I was comparing the capabilities of Wacoms within the same price range to Huion, it was clear which company had the better value.

The only thing wrong is the drivers for Windows. Don't use the driver that comes in the CD, download the latest one from their website and you're good.

Well, you'll likely find the graphics tablet route far more sensitive for doing what you've in mind. If you're truly planning on Game development, there's little reason to skimp unless you're just broke. Here's an option if you're looking to save cash. That said, it's totally possible to do this with a mouse, given enough patience and time.

Now, all things considered, what you'll find most helpful is practice. The problem with making maps is that you're never 'done.' You will always have room for improvement, so keep practicing. Setting realistic goals is the best way to get started, and then later you can expand so that you don't get overwhelmed too early on.

Honestly, I think tracing is a good way to get lost because you'll just copy the topical information and miss the purpose. Study climate guides and stare at real maps until your eyes bleed, because that's how you learn what shapes pass for real. You will never make a map with procedural generation that will top a map made by hand with experience and realism in mind.

What you're doing is fucking hard, man, but it can be done. I fully respect you because I don't think I could hack it.

Note: before picking up a tablet, draw traditionally. You don't want to spend hundreds of dollars on a tablet only to find out you need more practice, or want to quit (ever wonder why there's so many used tablets for sale?). If you've already built up some mileage, continue.

I had a small Intuos Comic (just an Intuos Draw w/ some software) for a half a year. It was affordable, and worked without issue. I did have two big issues with it, which mostly came down to personal circumstance.

• I have a huge monitor in comparison to the Draw. I came across a good rule of thumb on stack exchange while researching my new tablet. It's called the 1/3 rule. Basically, if your tablet is less than a third the size of your screen, there's going to be a dramatic difference between a stroke on your tablet and a stroke on your screen. I found this disorienting. Here is a comparison between the two tablets, alongside my screen. The difference is clear. Of course, if you have a smaller monitor, this point may be null.
  
  
  
• Every time I drew for more than an hour my hand would cramp up. Drawing with my arm was out of the picture (the drawing area is about the size of my hand), so I had to draw with my wrist :P. The pain turned me off from digital for a while.
  
  
  I recently upgraded to an Intuos Pro Large. I got it refurbished for the price of a medium pro. I am very happy with my purchase. I can draw as big as I want, and for longer than a few hours. My computer is now my primary sketchbook.
  
  The Intuos Pro Large is a bit spendy though. I got it at a discount for $350. If I were you, I'd spend the extra $100 to get the next largest tablet in the Intuos line, the Intuos medium. You could probably get it refurbished, if it costs too much.
  
  I should add that I haven't tried this tablet, so take my suggestion with a grain of salt. If it is just a larger version with all the same features (it looks like it is), then I would go for it. My only issue with the smaller one was that it was small. If size isn't that big an issue for you, then go for the small version.
  
  Whatever tablet you choose, make sure you have a solid return path if you change your mind; no one wants to buy used tablets :(.

Active area is indeed the size you can draw on. That section on the Wacom site has an error. It looks like you selected medium, but it's still giving you dimensions for the small. 6 x 3.7 inches is the dimension of the active area for the intuos art/comic/photo small.

Your Wacom Graphire Bluetooth
Dimensions: 11.5 x 10.5,
Active area: 6 x 8 inches

Small Wacom Intuos Art/Comic/Photo (All the same tablet, different bundled stuff)
Dimensions: 8.25 x 6.7,
Active area: 6 x 3.7

Medium Wacom Intuos Art/Comic/Photo
Dimensions: 10.75 x 8.75,
Active area: 8.5 x 5.3

The old tablets were the Bamboo and Intuos. The former being the hobbyist tablets, and the Intuos 2, 3, 4, 5 aimed at the professional market. But they changed the name a few years back. The Bamboo became the Intuos series, and the Intuos series became the Intuos Pro series.

Now they've released a new set of tablets, but they didn't add numbers to them, so look out for anything labelled (OLD MODEL) on Amazon, unless you specifically want the previous release.

Confusing huh? :)

tl;dr The Intuos Art Medium has an active area of 8.5 x 5.3. Wacom's site is wrong.

Edit - good formatting is hard here, sorry about the mess.

I would go for this
I know that's outside your price range but when it comes to tablets it's worth it.

Cheap tablets can feel really sluggish and are not precise enough.
As for the version diffrences the only thing I see is the software that comes with the tablet.

This one!
It is Pen and Touch, but I have honestly never bothered with the touch feature and I don´t really feel like it´s needed :P

I have this wacom tablet I would be willing to part with if you don't need the 2017 version. Fully functional and everything.

Do you think this medium Wacom Intuos would be adequate? Btw, the majority of the work she gets is designing logos or graphics for small companies and nonprofits. I'm assuming all Wacom tablets are multipurpose enough but I'm not so certain.

I was looking at this one https://www.amazon.com/Wacom-digital-graphics-drawing-painting/dp/B010LHRVOY I'm not sure if I could bare something smaller than my sketch pad.

Here are my recommendations (in order):

Wacom Pro Medium (PTH651): ebay and amazon
 
Wacom Intuos (CTH680): amazon
 
Wacom Intuos Art (CTH690AK): amazon

you can consider the [Wacom Intuos Art Pen and Touch digital graphics] (https://www.amazon.com/Wacom-digital-graphics-drawing-painting/dp/B010LHRVOY/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1478121490&sr=1-1&refinements=p_36:1253506011&linkCode=ll1&tag=qt088-20&linkId=65d1db62c6f8baffb7bb27dd810ab100) as an alternative to the cintiq. It can connect to macbooks, rated at 4.3 star by over 600 buyers. [Youtube video on the Wacom Intuos Art Pen and Touch digital graphics] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpCJinu7hC8)

Honestly, I don't know much about graphics tablets, but the Wacom Intuous Draw is currently £49.99 on Amazon UK.

That seems like a pretty old tablet, but you seem to use it well. I would say it's worth upgrading to one of the newer tablets but that depends on if you are willing to spend £50 on a new one.

Here's the link for the cheapest I could find (and the one I currently use): https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wacom-Intuos-Draw-Graphics-Tablet/dp/B013ATUR46/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1491386944&sr=8-3&keywords=wacom+art

Hope this helps

http://www.amazon.de/WACOM-PTH451ENES-Intuos-Grafiktablet-USB-Anschluss/dp/B00EO0R4ZQ/ref=sr_1_12?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1457166716&sr=1-12&keywords=intuos+pro+small
or
http://www.amazon.de/Wacom-CTL-490DW-S-Stift-Tablett-inklusive-Softwaredownload/dp/B013ATUR46
?
Money isn't a thing.

So many important items for me right now, so I'll post a few.

-A sidebag, Assassin's Creed style
-Drawing Tablet for University
-Computer Monitor Screen, to stop my neck always looking down

I also have a few tech items I am keeping on the list so I can get them when I am ready (Over £300 gulp)

i think i fucked up... This is what i purchased... https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wacom-Intuos-Draw-Graphics-Tablet/dp/B013ATUR46/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1501270525&sr=8-1&keywords=ctl480

Wacom Intuos Draw is also good and costs about 70€ https://www.amazon.de/Wacom-CTL-490DW-S-Stift-Tablett-inklusive-Softwaredownload/dp/B013ATUR46 ^^^(this is the german Amazon store)

This year, I bought this version of the Elecom trackball to replace my old one, and it made a huge difference. The old one had a tiny white plastic bearing of some sort, but the bearings on my newer one are dark red, are bigger, and feel like they are made out of a harder material. The result is that it just rolls much smoother, and it also doesn't gunk up as quickly. I can end up going much longer without popping the ball out to clean. I usually end up doing it before even noticing a problem out of habit now.

You probably had the older one. The newer one actually doesn't have a sniper button. The physical button is there, but on the M-XT3, that button has been re-purposed to just being a bindable 6th mouse button.

Here's an example of the Elecom Deft and Deft Pro. Another example: Elecom M-X and M-X Pro.

Some of the changes include:

1. Optimizing the button layout and ergonomics.
   
2. Replacing the black ball with a red ball
   
3. Three selectable connection types: wired, wireless USB, and Blutooth.
   
   In the case of the Huge Pro, it's main gain would probably be point 3.

I considered that and the slimblade. The wrist rests are nice, and I really like the one on the Elecom Huge.

Although I realize they have scroll wheels as well, I also wanted scroll wheel tilt. Wish I could get just like 2 scroll wheels, actually I basically want this


But I guess I will try the M-XT3DRBK and see how that goes. After that I guess I am out of options and will just go back to using an MX Master mouse.

https://www.amazon.com/ELECOM-M-XT3DRBK-Wireless-Trackball-function/dp/B016QCPNUW/ref=pd_sim_147_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=1AKDVS7853VN40VCF3MC

here is a similar trackball. it comes quite highly touted by the users of this site. the big knock on it is that the ball itself is not of great quality. the main fix is to just replace the ball with the m570s, so if you get one, dont dump your old one.

Is there a model of mouse that has dual sensors like a track ball and a traditional bottom sensor like a normal mouse? I imagine it would look like this ELECOM M-XT3DRBK mouse but from the videos on it I saw it is just the trackball that registers movement. I am interested in getting a "different" sort of mouse, but not unnecessarily complicated with a ton of buttons for gaming but I'm not sure where to start.

It would definitely be challenging to go from using a "normal" mouse to a trackball. I just love my mouse though (Logitech M570). It fits my hand perfectly and is just very comfortable to use. Some people prefer the Elecom trackball. I have used both, but I do not care for the Elecom at all. I am not keen on the placement of the trackball, and the overall design for me is just meh.

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1458870572&sr=1-1&keywords=logitech+m570

^ This is an absolute steal at $27 USD. Not sure how much it would be in Canada (you're Canadian right hockey?)

http://www.amazon.com/ELECOM-Wireless-button-function-M-XT3DRBK/dp/B016QCPNUW/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1458870500&sr=8-4&keywords=elecom

So Far I have been suggested the Following:

Speakers: Logitech Speaker System Z906

Webcam: Logitech C930e Webcam

Trackball: ELECOM M-XT3DRBK Wireless Trackball Mouse

Logitech M570 Trackball

Looks cheap if you're looking for something more practical then the reversing challenges on HackThisSite...

https://www.amazon.com/M-XT3DRBK-Wireless-Trackball-6-Button-Tracking/dp/B016QCPNUW?th=1

The wired one is a buck more for some reason....

Elecom M-XT3DRBK (thumb ball)

Elecom M-DT2DRBK (finger ball)

they both cost a bit more than $60 though, and will probably be shipped from Japan.

Unfortunately, if you want a wireless trackball your options are quite limited. If you don't want to import, you can only get Logitech M570 or Kensington Orbit Wireless. (And, soon, Kensington Expert Wireless, but that's also over the budget).

Nope I used to use a M570 then switched over to this after having 2 M570s have issues with their microswitches.

Swap out the black marble it comes with with the 570 one and it's glorious for a gaming thumb trackball.

ELECOM Mouse trackball wired grip 6 button black M-XT3URBK https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016QCPO0G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_7V64xbSF3ZGJ6

I did end up finding this. 6 button, with a DPI switch dunno if it's really what you're looking for but i'm gonna try it out once I can afford to.

Elecom probably.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Elecom-Mouse-trackball-button-M-XT3URBK-Black/dp/B016QCPO0G/

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016QCPO0G/ref=twister_B06XFTP381?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Elecom makes a similar trackball. There is also a thumb driven model.

I've used a trackball for everything, including FPS gaming, for about 8 years now. (most recently, this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016QCPO0G/ref=twister_B06XFTP381?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1)

For entering automation, I sometimes use a USB MIDI device, but I don't have any problems using the trackball usually

Ah! What's up man! I was looking at the this one
My reasoning was that this mouse, unlike the Logitech m570 doesn't have a staggered right and left click so it'd feel more natural to me. They come in both left and right hand and wired vs wireless. I was probably gonna do wired right hand.

I have heard great things about the m570, my point is based only in opinion.

For what it's worth: cheaper alternative to the Logitech thumb ball, the company makes several variants:
Elecom M-XT3URBK

Mine is going on 6 years now and I'm just starting to notice double clicking and dropping when dragging. I just ordered some new switches tonight.

I did consider these two models though:
Elecom or Sanwa

Have you tried the Elecom Trackballs?

I have the small one and it's been decent, probably going to get the larger one once it's more available in Canada

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0171QQ7IY/ref=psdc_11036491_t2_B00O1HYX9C

I find that my trackball works adequately, it feels better than a traditional mouse while retaining portability

I use the Elecom Deft.

I had a wireless version of that elecom trackball that I got from amazon japan about a month after it was released back in 2014-15? It broke down about a year later, it also seemed to have trouble with the receiver.

I switched to the finger version of the trackball, and went with a wired this time. It's my favourite trackball right now, but it does take some getting used to if you have large hands because it's rather small compared to other trackballs. One thing to note is that I think they've updated the elecom trackball the one linked shows the model M-XT1URBK, but a search on amazon japan shows M-XT3URBK. One more thing is I believe the m570 balls will fit in either of the elecoms, I believe there were a few complaints about the stock balls not rolling nicely.

I too have given up on logitech a long time ago and went with kensington, and got a slimblade and an orbit. They both work well, but the slimblade is pricey, and the orbit lacking in buttons.

Now I've switched to buying japanese trackballs, like sanwa and elecom from amazon japan, I currently use these trackballs.
Elecom M-DT2URBK: https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B0171QQ7IY
Sanwa MA-TB39BK: https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B0042UINC6

I swore by Logitech for years. I am still using a Logitech keyboard, but I recently switched trackballs to this bad boy, made by Japanese startup Elecom.

It is basically the only 10 button gaming trackball in production, and while not quite as sturdy as the Logitech trackballs, it is much more ergonomic and feature rich.

Although I have to say, if logitech made a 10 button wired gaming trackball, I would prolly pick one up just to try it.

Elecom https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0171QQ7IY/ref=emc_b_5_i

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Made for a child's hands.

This maybe:
https://www.amazon.com/ELECOM-M-DT2URBK-Trackball-finger-function/dp/B0171QQ7IY/

ur like an awesome friend lol I personally use these 4 for all my stuff:

Huion Pro

Huion 640p

Wacom

my favorite (which happens to be the cheapest!!!) Huion H420 Kit

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Software I use: Krita, Photoshop (main), Corel Painter, Clip Art -- Corel seems to be really popular

Similar one

So if I might piggy back on your question and maybe turn it into a suggestion, on the use of a trackball, could you buy I think what they call a 3D Mouse, the ones with the big trackballs on the outside, and somehow rig that to work with the machine for the games that require the trackballs? I'm not entirely sure if the details in how that would work, as I'm new to the arcade cabinet scene, but I figured it couldn't hurt to recommend it and see what you would think for that. I used one through a PC of course but with MAME.

Edit: To specify be able to use the mouse efficiently and comfortably.
Edit Again: Something like this https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Expert-Wireless-Trackball-K72359WW/dp/B01936N73I/ref=zg_bs_172499_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=96BHRSX594XDWHF5NM8H

Que dices de las huion?, en especial esta https://www.amazon.com/Huion-Inspiroy-H640P-Battery-free-Sensitivity/dp/B075T6MTJX

It looks like Huion has a very similar stylus... any ideas whether this would work?

Thanks for the recommendation! I think I'll go with this though. Any reason not to that you know of?

That's fair not wanting to mod a classic HOTAS.

You can get 9-key keyboards that can serve the same purpose of your shell.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FFLNF5C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_54-zDbZTYNM14

They aren't as compact as yours though. It might offer a USB control board to cannibalize. I made a mounting base for HOSAS system that also has one of these types of 9-keys screwed down next to one of the sticks.

Has anyone here used this one? I've considered picking it up.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01936N73I/ref=twister_B019DMH6DO?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

edit: the scroll wheel interests me...

I mean... you can buy a mechanical USB one for a few bucks...

I actually used that one for a while and had to stop using it because it was putting a lot of stress on my thumb and causing me new pain. I like ones like the Kensignton Expert but it does take some time to get used to. It did take a while to heal up with that through. And although I can't speak to your particular case of RSI my biggest helpers in relieving my pain was through chiropractic care and trigger-point massage.

Most of the price of the Ducky Pocket comes from it being a mech.

If you're looking for a cheap mech numpad, I'd recommend this

Can you post up the config files for the game? That way users can simply drop them in?


On a side note, I have thought about adding something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Numeric-Backlit-Desktop-Computer/dp/B07FFLNF5C/ref=sr_1_22_sspa?keywords=keypad&qid=1558538728&s=gateway&sr=8-22-spons&psc=1 for quick swapping profiles. A dedicated device.

That sounds interesting. Can I ask a few questions?
How well is Steam VR manipulated by just the controllers?
I'm a VR noob, but I'm interested in designing something similar to your use depending on the need.


I might steal your idea, buy something like this and tear it apart for the usb controller and the mech. keys.
3d print a housing for 5 or so keys, and have a simple strap to attach to the headset strap.


Maybe.. something like this for macro layout.
1 Volume Up
2 Volume Down
3* Toggle Mic Mute
4 Launch Steam VR (?)
5 Alt-F4 macro (on double press perhaps)


*Key 3 to have a locator bump for easy blind use.

Shhh, you're going to call the controversy carols into this room with those K3KCs haha.

Wait, they don't make a beige 45g RF? I could've swore they did, but now that I'm thinking, I don't remember a user with one. A dome swap would be pretty cool to do though, but not sure what you would do with your extra RF87U (maybe one for work and one for home?).

I wish there were more finger trackballs with quality equitable to the CST. I've recently ordered Elecom's new finger trackball from Japan and should have it sometime this week according to tracking. I'll be writing about my inital impressions of it when I receive it and probably a review a month later. I'm hoping it'll be smooth and awesome.

Number Pad, ROTTAY Mechanical USB Wired Numeric Keypad with Blue LED Backlit 22-Key Numpad for Laptop Desktop Computer PC - Black (Blue switches) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FFLNF5C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_tBuBDb0K097SJ

Lamicall Cell Phone Stand, Phone Dock: Cradle, Holder, Stand Compatible with Switch, All Android Smartphone, Phone XS Max XR 6 6s 7 8 X Plus 5 5s 5c Charging, Accessories Desk - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HPI5AM2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_tCuBDbJEEERZ6

I was looking at somthing like this, though I'm not sure of the quality.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FFLNF5C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_o7rKDbXEWZ0S6

I'd love to be able to replace the numlock key with a 0 and the 0 with a SPACE.

There is also https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BA6XQI0/ref=s9u_simh_gw_i2?ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pd_rd_i=B01BA6XQI0&pd_rd_r=5TBCV017ZE1CEZTQQEM1&pd_rd_w=Abh0x&pd_rd_wg=Mc6N6&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=G2AH9HQPSWKNGFKK0X58&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=1cf9d009-399c-49e1-901a-7b8786e59436&pf_rd_i=desktop

How would you compare the NK01 to say the Jelly Comb or the MF21? Clearly the MF21 uses gateron switches, so that's a plus if you don't want clicky blues but if you used either of them that'd be interesting. Also, I don't particularly care about their cap quality since they'll all be pretty meh and I intend to add a GMK numpad set.

how do you turn touch off on this tablet: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BA6XQI0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s04?ie=UTF8&psc=1

(XP-Pen G430)

XP-PEN G540 or G430 are the best tablets for osu at the moment.

I'm also looking for a new tablet after I found out the CTL490 is terrible for osu!. I'm currently looking at this and this. I don't like relying on batteries, even if battery pens last for months.

Here's the link. They also make it in different colors with different switches. Do note that it doesn't come with a detachable cable.

Pro M is good, it's just the keycaps that kinda suck. They aren't any worse than most others though.

You could also try a separate numpad and position it wherever's most comfortable.

I'd recommend:
https://www.amazon.com/Rantopad-Chroma-Backlight-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B01MY6U3KX
plus
https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Backlight-Portable-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01MZ4Z2DK

The Intuos is reasonably priced (70$, repackaged through Amazon prime). Can you give me some opinions on a few tablets? Is there a good size for the best usability, while still fitting in a backpack? Out of these few tablets, which one stands out as good/great, are any terrible?


https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Graphics-Drawing-Painting-Battery-free/dp/B01MAZ5FDL/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1505439775&sr=8-12&keywords=graphic+tablet

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BA6XQI0

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072TZ1WQ2/ref=s9u_simh_gw_i17?ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pd_rd_i=B072TZ1WQ2&pd_rd_r=DEX1N07PJ49Y4YWS34D0&pd_rd_w=5gm40&pd_rd_wg=nGhes&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=R067G83EKBF3RAAH985P&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=1cf9d009-399c-49e1-901a-7b8786e59436&pf_rd_i=desktop

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B010LHRFM2/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all

Budget?

There's the Ducky Pocket, which can also be used as a calculator.

For a less-expensive option, maybe the Magicforce numpad. I don't really know if it's good or bad, but a lot of people like the Magicforce 68.

So something like this or this wouldn't be good?

You should, though it does take a little bit to get used to, the end result is awesome. I use the Huion Inspiroy: https://www.amazon.com/Inspiroy-H640P-Graphics-Battery-Free-Sensitivity/dp/B075T6MTJX It's fairly cheap with good quality.

Hi! My daughter is 5 and wants to make simple animations. I don't know where to start in helping her find a way to do this.
We have a windows laptop and a digital camera and I ordered this for her https://www.amazon.com/Ultrathin-Graphic-Digital-Drawing-Pressure/dp/B01BA6XQI0/ref=sxin_3_ac_d_pm?keywords=drawing+tablet&pd_rd_i=B01BA6XQI0&pd_rd_r=d06674a6-6f5f-4652-a8e5-72a92ab99e5b&pd_rd_w=RfVpj&pd_rd_wg=tWU6E&pf_rd_p=5cc8abfe-8f78-4f34-b19f-d09d6ea0dca4&pf_rd_r=3CS964DHHH1JGPZEDXTW&qid=1557762329&s=gateway


I have no idea what kind of software to install that a 5 year old would be able to use (she can read very well and picks things up super fast so it needs to be simple, but she can figure tech things out fairly quickly).


She wants to make cartoons where you draw them like a flipbook I suppose (which is why I purchased the drawing tablet), or claymation type videos where she takes a series of photos.. she understands how animation works much better than I do, haha.


Anyway, where do I begin?? Please help :D

I've seen a lot of people recommend this one. Looks like it fits your bill.

Good luck!

There's the Jelly Comb one already mentioned in the comments if you're after a cheap one, it's the one I personally have. Downside is that it doesn't use standard numlock size keys (note the top row and the plus button. Comes in black or white (black one is most common), with Outemu Blue switches.

Another cheap option is the Velocifire numpad, it's wireless (2.4 ghz USB dongle) with Outemu Blue switches. It has a 4 1x1 key top row and only comes in black.

For something a bit nicer there's the Ducky Pocket, comes in various Cherry MX switches, it's wired and has a LED display, RGB backlighting, doubleshot PBT keys. It only comes in black and has a top row of 4 1x1 size keys (not sure which row, probably R4?).

Personally though I'd advise against going with the first two options as Outemu Blue switches are loud (same with any clicky switch) which wouldn't go over too well in a classroom environment.

edit: I just noticed that the Qisan (Magicforce) numpad is in stock on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Portable-Extended-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B073WB83RQ/
https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Backlight-Portable-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01MZ4Z2DK/

Gateron Browns, comes in white or black.

Yeah seems like most people start out with wacom bamboo. I don't really like the way the new version looks and it just has 4 buttons so I'm thinking of getting this huion: https://www.amazon.com/Huion-Inspiroy-Graphics-Battery-free-Sensitivity/dp/B075T6MTJX/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1518559535&sr=1-4&keywords=huion+tablet

> Huion H610 Pro or the Wacom CTL490DW
Those are the tablets I'm looking at and wondering what accessories I should get to start.

As for the $40 units. I think he was looking at https://www.amazon.com/XP-Pen-Ultrathin-Graphic-Digital-Drawing/dp/B01BA6XQI0/ref=sr_1_1_sspa

https://www.amazon.com/Huion-Graphics-Drawing-Tablet-Board/dp/B00TB0TTAC/ref=sr_1_4

https://www.amazon.com/Huion-Computer-Pressure-Sensitive-Resolution/dp/B017THUO0C/ref=sr_1_37

A search of 'Drawing Tablet' and sorting price low to high, brings up many other results.

Wacom One/Ctl 471 or XP Pen G430. I would only buy the gaomon if you could afford the rechargeable pen as the pen that comes with the gaomon tablet is heavy.

As an accountant (A&A), I recommend this instead. Unless the RGB is worth the extra $30. Gateron browns rather than cherry, half the price, and I can't imagine a situation in which you'd need a pocket calculator as opposed to being within 24" of a computer. Ofc, /u/gizzardgullet posted that his wife rarely has hers plugged in...I didn't go into accounting because of my imagination! I also may have an irrational distaste for wireless things.

Running a TKL + Leopold FC210TP @ work.

glorious blue switches for $30?

Well, at around $50 you have this one. It looks good to me, I've heard good things about the brand, but I haven't used it personally.

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A big factor is size, I'd say it's big enough for the price.

Not sure about Linux compatibility though.

So, right now, these are £95.31 on amazon.co.uk.

And then amazingly this amazon.com deal will ship to the UK; $39.95 + $17.65 Shipping & Import Fees Deposit to United Kingdom, which translates to about £40.65.

That's... quite a saving! Thanks for posting. :)

... arsebags.

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> Kensington SlimBlade Trackball Mouse (K72327US)

What a load of horseshit, considering:

> In Stock.

> Ships from and sold by Amazon.com. Gift-wrap available.

I mean, seriously: https://i.imgur.com/8gg92cG.png

edit: it appears that they in fact managed to run out of stock between my adding the item to basket, and hitting check out... poor tactical timing on my part it seems!

My wife is a self-taught artist and I can say she's good at it. She's been using her reliable wacom bamboo for more than 3 yrs now and it finally gave up. I want to gift her a new graphics tablet but we're also taking care of her father's medical bills (he has diabetes) and she wouldn't let me buy it.
https://www.amazon.com/Inspiroy-H640P-Graphics-Battery-Free-Sensitivity/dp/B075T6MTJX/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=huion&qid=1555816569&s=gateway&sr=8-4

Hi! First i want to say thank you!

I'm a Venezuela based artist, living here is hard since there is an economic crisis. Anyway, I have a friend, his father died two days ago, and he is kind of suicidal. I would like to buy him a graphic drawing tablet because he is a good artist too, and I can afford living in this country with my current job, i just want to help him raising money, since he will need it from now on.

https://www.amazon.com/Inspiroy-H640P-Graphics-Battery-Free-Sensitivity/dp/B075T6MTJX/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=huion&qid=1555854860&s=gateway&sr=8-4

And if it is within your heart, i would like a panoramic rear view mirror for my car, since i'm blinded of one eye and it would help a lot while driving.

https://www.amazon.com/Yoolight-Rearview-Universal-Interior-Panoramic/dp/B076CM3F49/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=panoramic+rear+view&qid=1555855522&s=gateway&sr=8-6

No need to pay the shipment to Venezuela, you can send them to miami and i can pay the shipment from miami to Venezuela since it would be more expensive for you.