(Part 3) Best camping & hiking equipment according to redditors

I’ve seen a few posts with those gas bottles and I have it saved in my Amazon list, I think I’m going to have to get one and carry it.

www.amazon.com/dp/B0015I0GE6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_ED0rDbZB8QC5K

Yes and no. Denatured alcohol from the paint section is your best bet. Rubbing alcohol has too much water in it usually, unless you find some 99%. It will work, but not as well. A quart of denatured is $5. Rubbing alcohol is about twice that price.

Heet costs more and there's little difference. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOLoLx5lF6U

Here's the one I use. (fixed, thanks breadpad) You can put it out and it screws closed to save the fuel. In practice, this sounds better than it works. Just don't overfill, and burn it till it's dry. Comes with a simmer ring. I fooled around with the can ones. My friend's monster can stove is nice. Soda can stoves don't hold enough fuel.

It’s a solid fuel camp stove. The metal part folds out and you sit a pot on top of it. The fuel blocks are burned one at a time but are stored inside of it when not in use.

Edit: similar to this

Coleman North Rim Adult Mummy Sleeping Bag https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009PUSO4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_TYvfGb5GvhRCN

It did. I was still dressed for it, though. Layers, socks, hat and such. Some folks seem to be able to sleep in less. But yes, by 6am my feet were starting to get a bit chilly, but it was time to get up anyway. So overall, I’d say a 9 out of 10. It got to about 25 degrees.

For a dose of irony, here's the less functional American knockoff.

PS I have genuine respect for our honorable military forces, and am sure I'll be corrected about how our shovel is superior.

Here you go

And for some cheaper options

Merino wool socks (Darn Tough or Farm to Feet are my go to) and the Noble Outfitters "Cold Front" muck boots. I love these boots, they're incredibly comfortable all year round and I've ridden in them hundreds of times as well. I've heard good things about the "Original Muck Boot Company" muck boots as well and I know they have an insulated variety. Basically, muck boots that neoprene based rather than just lined rubber will be way, way warmer. They have not failed me. Plus, if I'm teaching or out for more than a couple hours, I'll use the stick on toe warmers which really are lifesavers. Big bonus tip: putting on extra socks/etc. and cramming your feet into boots is a bad idea. Insulation works by trapping warm air, so you need some space for it to work. You will be infinitely warmer in one pair of socks that fit well into your boots than in two pairs that are crammed in. Some kids would wear plastic bags or bread bags over their socks, which works great but they don't breathe and once you're feet are sweaty, you're screwed.

For the rest of your body, base layers are fantastic. They come in many varieties, from Walmart dirt cheap to nice merino wool (my personal favorites, but expensive and I only invested after using them for hiking a lot). The cost doesn't matter as much, as the goal is to get sweat away from your skin to keep you toasty, but in general, stay the f*** away from cotton for socks or base layers. The instant it is wet from sweat or something else, it will suck your body heat away and it doesn't dry out. Synthetic or wool is your best bet for anything against your skin. Layers, layers. I wear my base layers (top and bottom), a pair of Kerrits winter breeches (the best I've found, one pair has lasted me two winters so far, too), a fleece athletic top of some kind (love Avalanche gear), a down vest, and then my trusty, rusty Mountain Horse winter jacket. Gloves are weird in a barn -- I've had my best success with a thin water repellent glove with good grip on the fingers and palm that I can stuff into bigger mittens after using my hands (usually complete with hand warmers). Anything thicker and I am taking them off so often to do things in the barn that it doesn't matter if I have gloves on or not, although Heritage makes an "Extreme" winter riding glove that I adore, each pair has lasted me at least three winters of constant use and are impressively mobile for their bulkiness and okay-ish to ride in.

And for when you're back, hot chocolate with whiskey/rum enjoyed in a shower really will warm you right back up. Start the shower just lukewarm or your feet/legs/hands will feel like they're on fire.

Good find.

RyanAir's free carry-on dimensions are 40cm x 20cm x 25cm. The classic JanSport Superbreak, one of the best-selling backpacks ever, fits that almost perfectly, so long as you don't fill up the front pocket.

We've travelled on RyanAir 10+ times with these bags, checked them in the sizers, and never had any problems.

You can get it on Amazon for $19.99.

Not only soldiers, but anyone who enjoys camping. I got one for my GF.

Well, actually I bought her a better version with a longer stem to make it easier for her to use without pissing on herself.

I suppose you can blame it on this 'summer reddit' I keep hearing about.

You're asking a very broad question while looking for specifics, making it very hard to pinpoint an answer. I'll give my advice on bug out bag items.

The bag itself - Should be a solid backpacking bag. Keep it light enough that it's manageable. For a very fit individual, the max weight should be your body weight divided by 3. Most of us are not that fit, so adjust accordingly. It should have hip support, well stitched straps, several compartments and a way to attach things to the outside (molle webbing, carabiner loops or exterior straps). Should be weatherproof.
Water - Depends entirely on your location. I live in Canada - Land of lakes and rivers. I wont need to carry a ton of water all the time. I've got a sawyer squeeze as my primary water filter. The collapsible water bottles it comes with work great for water storage as well. Wife and daughter carry a lifestraw as backups. We have some iodine drops as well.
As far as water carrying devices go, i find nalgene bottles work great. Theyre light and strong, and come in various sizes. A canteen is great if you want to use it to cook over a fire. Its not a bad idea either to have a large (5 litre+) collapsible water container. They're plastic and light. I havn't used mine extensively enough to recommend.
Sharp Things - I've got a Kabar as my primary fixed blade. It's tried and true. Good metal, full tang. I've got a leatherman wave multitool. Carry it everyday on my belt. Super handy. I should really add a 3-4" folding knife to my pack as sometimes the kabar is too big, and the multitool is hard to clean.
I also carry a Cold steel shovel. I looked into folding shovels, and they didnt seem reliable. Moving parts means they're more likely to fail. I haven't used this one extensively, but the few times i have tried it, its done an excellent job. If your pack's too heavy, put this one in your car.
Food - Your typical protein bars, dried rice/bean mix, snickers, small jar of PB, oatmeal and dehydrated fruit. A small bit of olive oil packs a ton of calories and adds flavour. It's good to have a small container of salt and pepper, or other spices to add flavour. You can grab MRE's or those mountainhouse dried meals, but theyre expensive. If you regularly buy pepperettes or jerkey, stick some in your bag and rotate it out when you buy it next. Multivitamins can keep you up if youre not getting a ton of food, but dont rely on them. Bring any meds you need, as well as tylenol or aspirin.
Hygiene - Pack a couple rolls of TP. Toothbrush, toothpaste, deodorant (chuck if too much weight), wash cloth, soap, soap for clothing, feminine products (if applicable), couple garbage bags (can separate dirty clothes), wet wipes, lip balm, hand sanitizer. Sun screen and bug spray in small bottles.
Clothing - Carry at least 7 pairs of good socks. Some warm ones if the location's cold. Extra shirts, underwear are essential. Pants/shorts and sweater are optional (besides whatever you're wearing). Stick your clothing in a waterproof sack. Try to keep only clean, dry clothes in there (no airflow + damp = mold).
-Paracord and rope
-Carabiners
-Sewing kit
-Tent patching kit (if you have a tent or a tarp)
-Tarp (who saw that coming). Doesn't have to be massive. Just know how to set it up to keep you dry.
-Fire Source. Have many. Lighters are cheap, stash away a bunch (7?). The lighter leash is awesome. You should be able to find that cheap at a corner store. Storm matches, for when its rainy. I think these are what I got. You can light them in any weather, put them under water, and they'll still be lit. Not a bad idea to carry regualr matches in a waterproof container. Firestarter packets are great. I just soak cotton balls in Vaseline. Flint and steel is cool, but only useful if youve exhausted all other fire starting methods.
-Super Glue
-Safety pins
-Zip ties
-Light. Hand crank flashlight is awesome. If you have a battery powered one, carry spare batteries. The mini maglite has a belt holster. Those small LED flashlights are great too. Grab a few glowsticks.
-fork and spoon
-emergency blanket or emergency sleeping bag. Only useful if you're SOL.
-poncho
-sleeping bag for your location. If its warm you don't need this. Can use a hammock or sleeping pad. Try and keep these small as they take up a ton of space.
-Compass. Useful if you have a map.
-Map of your location/where youre going.
-Signal mirror and a good whistle.
-Fishing supplies. I've got an emmrod. You can put a fairly small cheap reel on here. I've got the shimano ix2000. It casts a pretty good distance. Hooks, weights, bobs etc. Can all fit in small waterproof containers or camera film containers. Dont forget line! Mines already on the reel. A fishing vest gives you lots of little pockets to keep things in arms reach.
-First Aid kit. There's extensive lists online depending on how large you want it. Some gauze, band aids, polysporin, burn cream are a good start. Try and build it yourself, don't buy the gimmikey premade ones. Keep yours in a waterproof Tupperware container.
-Tiny roll of Gorilla Tape
-Games. Some dice and a deck of cards go a long way. Don't underestimate the value of laughter. If a sudden collapse ever happens, these might save you from depression.
-Headlamp. I've got this rayovac one (i think). Seems easy on batteries and has lasted a few camping trips. Haven't put serious use on it tho.
-Eating equipment. A mug and a small plate go a long way. A folding pan goes a long way, but is heavy. I would love to learn to use a pressure cooker over fires.
-Handkerchief or travel kleenex
-Bandanas. 3 of them.
-Bungee cords can be useful, but they run the risk of snapping and taking out an eye.
-Ziplock bags are handy. Keeps a lot of small things organized and dry.
-Pencils, Pens, notepad/book, sharpie.
-Hatchet is useful, but heavy. Take one if you can. The sven saw is awesome and hasn't broke on me yet.
-Spare pair of glasses (if applicable)
-Some sort of firearm is almost necessary. I don't have one yet, but i was planning on a 10/22 takedown. It's small and easy to pack. Bullets are light. If you need more stopping power than a .22, you're in a heap of trouble. Guns are not my specialty (can you guess), so ill leave it up to you
-In lieu of a firearm, you could grab a crossbow. If that's still too much, a good slingshot will do great.
-phone booklet and address's. In case your phone craps out and you cant charge it.
-A small windable clock is great. A solar watch is better. I think thats the one i have.

All this stuff is useless unless you know how to use it. Do your research, take some courses. Learn the necessary skills to survive, because that's what's really necessary. I like Les Stroud's (survivorman) book Survive!. Learn to tie knots, fish, hunt, forage, fight, build a fire in all conditions, etc.
If you have questions on the use of any of the above items, ask away. Any advice or suggestions, I welcome those too.

I like the Morakniv and firesteel ideas, and also:

• Wood/tablet/alcohol stove, $19
  
• AccuSharp knife sharpener, around $12
  
• Stainless steel cup that fits perfectly on bottom of Nalgene bottle (can be used for cooking), $9, an Equinox Bottle Bag, $11, a Survivor HK-106 knife w/ fire starter (clip point), $10, and a Nalgene bottle, $10 (pick 2-3 to stay under $30) are the start of a Nalgene bottle kit. That's not an ideal knife and may need sharpening but it is full-tang and I can confirm it fits inside a Nalgene bottle, which the Morakniv for example will not.
  
• The book Where There Is No Doctor, $25
  
• Perhaps a keyring for EDC featuring such things as a Streamlight Nano ($7), firesteel ($10), something like a [Kingston SE9 USB drive](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00URLZTNU/ ($7), a universal handcuff key ($5), and a whistle ($8).
  
• A Leatherman Squirt PS4 (with pliers) for EDC, $30
  
• WaterBOB, $23
  
• Emergency hand-crank radio, $20+

I'd highly advise borrowing one, at least until you can get a handgun. I don't know about your local gun laws or financials, but based on how tricky it can be to get ahold of a pistol, I'd also suggest you look into getting pepper spray. A friend of mine is 5' 3", somewhere around 115 pounds, and very young-looking despite being old enough to concealed carry. However, she lives in a college dorm at the moment, so she's resorted to carrying a Kimber Pepperblaster II in wake of her usual handgun. It's two-shot, direct, and even has a small handle and sights for better accuracy. If that doesn't seem like your cup of tea, though, I'm sure someone at your local gun store can tell you a lot more about alternative self-defense options than I can.

Here it is, get your secret Santa on $80 on Amazon

Everyone should have one of these in your vehicle at all times.

You're looking for a poncho liner. "Woobie" is the nick name for it.

Genuine US Military All Weather Poncho Liner Blanket https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001L0VX2W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_eW2SzbKFMKF3Y

If you want to get real fancy, you can get one with a zipper.

Camping stoves are less than $10, and the fuel will last for a couple days worth of dinners. Fried eggs and Grilled cheese can help keep you warm!

Plus you can justify the cost by actually using the food you've already got. Plan B would be to buy the fuel and make a stove out of a used can, but that's more dangerous for most people.

Take a look at the Kelty Salida 2 is what my search-fu came up with.

Originally I was going to recommend the REI Half Dome 2. I've had mine for years. You can shave weight by ditching a ground cloth if you want but the weight over all is a bit higher than you commented.

Your price range will drive the options available, your weight requirement will limit that even more. If you want to use this as a Bug out type tent keep in mind the quality, uses and durability of what you're buying. I do understand a sealable tent is good to keep out bugs and weather.

My personal BOB 'tent' is:

• an army poncho as the tent (Doubles as a...poncho/shade/rain catchment/litter/sack)
  
• with some special fit poles (to turn it into a free standing tent)
  
• coupled with a multiple use casualty blanket [edit] as the ground sheet, can also wrap up in it too. It can be used for most of the same uses as the poncho.[/edit]
  
• a modified poncho liner (I added zippers around it and in the middle to make it more like a sleeping bag. You could use a heavier duty SOL Bivvy instead
  
• and a Therm-a-rest Z Lite which can be used as a seat too.
  
  I've used all of the above in various weather and stayed warm and dry. Colder weather I'd just keep a few layers of clothing on. Warmer weather I'd just layout on top of the poncho liner and be just fine. I do like the ability to just jump the fuck up and go into action without being impeded by zippers.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004SOPJG4/

Buy http://www.amazon.com/Jobar-International-Ez-Travel-Urinal/dp/B004ANM6C8 some duct tape and a dildo. Hollow out the dildo so it'll fit on the spout (make sure to cut out a urethra) and then glue them together. Tape that thing to your bits and Boom! You've got yourself a homemade strapon with urination capability. It could be mass produced pretty easily actually...

Amazon has them. You can probably find them cheaper elsewhere though. These have been around for a while.

A lot of people are going to suggest that you just build your own. It's pretty easy to do so out of a cat food tin or a soda/beer can. There's a ton of websites and YouTube videos with directions on how to do so, so a google search for instructions should easily yield results. Homemade alcohol stoves are also going to be lighter yet than any commercially produced models.

The only commercially produced brand of alcohol stove that I have any familiarity with is the Trangia Spirit Burner. They are pretty cheap (usually around $15) and while they are light, they are noticeably heavier than a soda can stove is. They are much more durable than most homemade models are, though.

The one thing that I like about the Trangia is that you can purchase it with a primer for it improves the stove's efficiency in cold weather. You could probably build one yourself to use with a homemade stove, too, though.

(Edited to add links.)

Amazon page for the type of backpack the guy has.

Someone get in touch with the FBI, me and /u/apudebeau just cracked this case wide open.

Many Jansports don't contain any leather, as far as I know. This is the one I have and have used for years. It's kinda boring and cliche, but it get's the job done.

http://www.amazon.com/JanSport-Superbreak-Classic-Backpack-Black/dp/B0007QCQGI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409239746&sr=8-1&keywords=Jansport

https://www.amazon.com/MSR-Liquid-Fuel-Bottle-11-Ounce/dp/B0015I0GE6/ref=sr_1_22?keywords=msr%2Bfuel&qid=1569689581&s=gateway&sr=8-22&th=1

For anyone who wants their own Woobie.

You should have gotten her one of these.

Here is an article relating to the event. Evidently the subject pulled a Kimber Pepper Blaster on the deputy.

If you're looking for a low cost trekking pole, I've always heard good things about the Cascade ones here:
https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

Looks like they're lighter and less expensive than the ones on monoprice. You can sometimes find them at Costco for even cheaper too.

Turns out its Chinese military https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhqxkI3xDYY

edit: http://www.amazon.com/Chinese-Military-Shovel-Emergency-WJQ-308/dp/B00A2GLZS8

I'm new here, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you could really use a good shovel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzpRh-ZE9Mo

http://www.amazon.com/Chinese-Military-Shovel-Emergency-WJQ-308/dp/B00A2GLZS8

Amazing pack though, and great documentation. You have my vote.

EDIT: Nevermind, I just re-checked the Google spreadsheet. You already have a U-Dig-It Folding Shovel and Pouch. Man, what didn't you think of?

This appears to be the one. http://www.amazon.com/Chinese-Military-Shovel-Emergency-WJQ-308/dp/B00A2GLZS8

https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B00EJP43FA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473433137&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=cascade+mountain+trekking+poles&psc=1

Get that costco swag

http://www.amazon.com/Military-Original-E-Tool-Entrenching-Shovel/dp/B004SOPJG4

Trekking poles are the one area where Amazon beats Aliexpress:

 

CMT Carbon Quick Lock Trekking Poles = $36.84 USD

CMT Aluminium Quick Lock Trekking Poles = $16.76 USD

EDIT: looks like game over on these cheaper prices, back to ~$39 and ~$23 respectively

Until you acclimate, try putting some [toe warmers] (https://www.amazon.com/HotHands-Toe-Warmers-Odorless-Activated/dp/B0007ZF4PE) on top of your toes to keep you warm. CVS, Walgreens, Costco, REI, Scheels - they all carry some brand variation of the one I linked.

Also +1 for one pair of wool socks (I don't double layers on my feet until single digits.)

and +1 for a good pair of Sorels. My husband's are going on 20 years old and just as good as new. Mine are almost 10 years old and I love them.

My wife and I started with a Trangia alcohol stove. It is great because you can store unused alcohol in the screw lid container, and it's very robust. The "simmer ring" isn't all that useful-except as a good way to snuff out your stove. The cons are it is heavier than other alcohol stoves.

Generally, alcohol stoves take longer to boil water than a canister stove. There is also the added risk of open fuel that is quite flammable. I've seen many a fireball happen from people with more than questionable alcohol stoves.

Ultimately we changed to a MicroRocket canister stove. The convenience of the canister stove just outweighed any additional weight (honestly, after a 1000 miles of hiking, the tiny difference in weight really doesn't matter). It cooked so much faster, was way quicker to set up, and we were not nearly as leery about cooking in our vestibule on some crappy days. At the end of long days all I want is to shovel as much food into my mouth as fast as possible.

Availability of canisters is abundant. Canister stoves are extremely popular on the trail and the outfitters know that. Practically all of the outfitters carry canisters. Finding denatured alcohol is quite easy as well. Either outfitters give it away, sell it by the ounce, or there is a local store to get a bottle of HEET (yellow bottle).

You will have to refuel more frequently with an alcohol stove. Probably on the order of once a week you will be looking for resupply. With a canister it's more like once a month (8oz.). We went ~500 miles on one canister, cooking 1 meal a day for 2 people. Others I know completed the entire trail in 4-5 canisters.

Some people have had canisters mail-dropped in, because they found cheap deals on the canisters. They are supposed to be packaged accordingly to USPS hazardous material standards, but I have seen people receive them in their regular mail drops. Do so at your own risk and all that.

In my opinion, I would recommend a canister stove. If I were to thru hike again I would take my canister stove, hands down.

Whatever filter you end up going with, I would STRONGLY recommend keeping some iodine or similar tablets with you. (I use this brand.) Any filter can fail or get contaminated, and a small pack of purification tablets costs <$10, lasts four years unopened or one year opened, and weighs ~2oz, so there's very little reason to not carry some as a backup.

Do be aware that not every purification method gets every kind of contaminant - most purification tablets don't get Cryptosporidium, for example, so it's often a good idea to think about what's in the areas you plan to be hiking in. Crypto, for example, mostly comes off of farm animal runoff, so I don't worry about it when I'm in the mountains collecting water from snowmelt or springs with no farming upstream.

Oh fuck you're killing it already with this reply. It is this sleeping bag. The only that I can tell is broken is the zipper part itself. Like the handle with the clamp and such (the thing you drag up and down).

The teeth of the bag seemed to be fine last I checked. I even have the little handle still, but it had gotten stuck, I pulled too hard (story of my life) and it just came off.

This kind of Funnel? or are you actually using like, a fully round cooking funnel?

I'm a little concerned

If i were in your position here are the things I would buy, I am going to go over budget, but I am going to include everything that (i think) you would need, in terms of clothes that would fit into a jansport:

2 pairs of Exofficio underwear, wait to buy them on sale for $15 or less, preferably 12. If you could spend more, buy merino wool instead.

A good pair of shorts. Something you can wear everyday, waterproof, breathable. I'd recommend these [Patagonia] (http://www.rei.com/product/811170/patagonia-baggies-long-shorts-mens) shorts.

This hat. Good to keep the sun off your skin and sweat off your head.

A good pair of sandals. Chaco is a great brand and they will last you a long time.

Good pair of trail shoes. NB's Minimus trail line may or may not be what you need, but what I would recommend from what I know. ($100)

2 pairs of merino wool socks. Same reason as to the underwear. You can wear them more than one day at a time, quickly dry, and are antibacterial. Smartwool has great offerings.

2 pairs of merino wool shirts. Icebreaker is great and is a little bit less than smartwool. Get it in a lighter color like their grey.

These pants. They should be able to do everything that you would need them to do quite easily.

A good rain jacket. Something that can pack down easily and you can wear in colder temperatures and warmer ones for when you just need to deal with the rain. This seems like it would do the job great.

You should be able to get all of this stuff into that small jansport bag. Total cost should be around $675, but you could probably find some of the stuff for a little bit less and save some more money.

With your $250 I would get the underwear, socks, hat, shorts, and jacket.

Have fun on your trip!

It depends.

I forget what its called, but you have to use a sleeping bad with this type of fabric.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0009PUSO4/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If you use powdered jlube and mix it up thick, it will take a few hours for it to start absorbing into the stuffing. I've never had it seep all the way through the bag. You can literaly make a pool of it in there and it will stay for hours.

As for washing, i have a top loading washing machine. Put it on deep water clean, and it washes it all out. Hang dry only takes 5 or 6 hours. (I just hang it over the shower head by the feet part of the bag).

As far as mixing the jlube, i boil distilled water, add the powder to a dry mug, and pour the boiling water in. Mix for a minute or two and its good to go in 30 min (but will be hot as hell still, so i let it cool for an hour). Raging boil works best.

You gotta use distilled because if thier is any minerals in the water, it wont mix evenly.

I have several KA-BARs and love them all.

I love this one for camping: https://www.amazon.com/Ka-Bar-Becker-Combat-Bowie-Fixed/dp/B001IPKL7I

This one is always in my car (next to a small KA-BAR tanto, and SOG hatchet): https://www.amazon.com/KA-BAR-200038-BK3-Becker-Tool/dp/B001IPILMA

The only time I will ever recommend a kimber.

https://www.amazon.com/Kimber-PepperBlaster-II-Gray/dp/B004MG63X6

They are quality.

I'm loving these poles so far. Great price for the quality.
Kelty Cosmic Down is a great down bag that comes in lots of flavors. Not sure how cold it gets at night in Australia. A down quilt would be a good option if it's warm at night. This is a good down throw a lot of people use as a summer quilt.
Here's a great stove option that's a good price for the quality

As for tents and sleeping pads, that depends on how you sleep and if you're looking for a 1 or 2 person tent. The weather also is a factor for sleeping pads.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A2GLZS8

Demo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiYmk1sBqCo

I don't own one yet, but it is by far the best one I've found from researching.

I team drive with my lady and she uses
https://www.amazon.com/Jobar-International-Travel-Urinal-Reusable/dp/B004ANM6C8
when in a pinch lol. Right into a bottle like a man Hahaha.

Good job on getting rolling in this line of work. Sounds like you got the bug good!

In case anyone else couldn't figure it out, it's like a homemade Jane.

Edit: Maybe more like a non portable P EZ.

Good alternative (*might be illegal in some states): Pepper spray can blow back to cause problems; this is the best alternative (except for the one below). The disadvantage is that is has only two shots. I knew a guy whose 10 year old got hold of it from his hiking backpack and accidentally shot it against the wall. the whole family had to get out, fast.

https://www.amazon.com/kimber-PepperBlaster-II-Gray/dp/B004MG63X6/ref=sr_1_4?crid=17UTPPY8Y257D&keywords=kimber+pepper+blaster&qid=1556830319&s=gateway&sprefix=kimber%2Caps%2C-1&sr=8-4

• A superior ingredient formulation combines a powerful solution of 10% OC (2.4% capsaicinoid content) with benzyl alcohol for viscosity
  
• Delivery speed of 112 MPH keeps blasts on target, reducing the risk of blowback or drift
  
• At just 4.2 ounces, pepperblaster II is state-of-the-art protection
  
  ​
  
  Best alternative (probably illegal (for carry) in most states unless you are hiking. This stuff will stop a bear - really! I decided to test mine with a fraction-of-a-second shot into a (clean) empty toilet bowl. On firing it *completely* displaced all the water in the bowl which dissipated throughout the bathroom, including onto "moi". Within 2 seconds I was gasping for air (even though the stuff has been highly diluted with clean toilet bowl water). I had to run for an open window or I would have collapsed. Had to leave my place for 5 hours, and then come back and clean up the bathroom with rubber gloves. I had really uncomfortable burns on my hands and face for the next 10 hours from the initial hit of diluted spray. Makes a great bedside weapon if you are shy about owning a gun. Also, a handly concealed alternative if you are walking through a dangerous neighborhood at night. We're talking a 30 foot jet of pure heat that will deter a bear.
  
  https://www.amazon.com/Frontiersman-Spray-Holster-Access-Strength/dp/B002E6VAHK/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3TQIN7XEN36Y&keywords=bear+spray+for+hiking&qid=1556830493&s=gateway&sprefix=bear+spray%2Caps%2C258&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1

I agree with other's. The strobe will more likely piss off the attacker. Perhaps get her a Kimber pepper blaster as well as a light for her purse. Pepper spray is legal in NY, companies just can't ship it to NY. (go figure) So, you'll have to buy it for her and mail it to her yourself. Just don't tell the post office that it's pepper spray.

Creepster indeed... the T seems to be getting worse of late.

I'm not sure this is the subreddit for such things but I have to recommend carrying one of these with you in future. Tucks right into your purse or carry-all.

As I'm sure you know Massachusetts is rather restrictive regarding self defense implements of any variety so you will need to get yourself a FID... $100 and a few pieces of paperwork is all it takes.

Chances are you'll never need it but should you get in a pinch with any inappropriate person without assistance around such a tool can buy you the time you need to get back to decent people who can help.

Do you mean for getting snow off the car? Or if you get stuck? If the latter, an e-tool is for you!

https://www.amazon.com/Military-Original-Issue-Entrenching-Shovel/dp/B004SOPJG4

I mean, I guess it'll get snow off your car if you don't care about your paint...

Edit... I just now saw the part about the walking path. Well shoot, get an e-tool anyways!

this Coleman air bed cot

You're kind of where I was a couple years ago. After my research I decided to go cheap and get these poles, realizing that I would probably want a much nicer set later on, and if I bought ~$75 poles I would just regret it more. They're a great value at the price and I have no serious complaints given that. But I do now want something lighter with a better adjustment and collapsing system, so a good set of lighter z-fold poles is on my list. I plan to keep these around and use them as loaners for the poor saps I drag along with me.

The tent and ground tarp are way too heavy, over 11lbs combined for just those two. If it is just going to be you then a one or two man tent would be a lot better.

The first aid kit is way too much as well. There are much smaller hiker kits out there.

You don't need three kinds of lights, most people get by with just a headlamp, maybe one other small lightweight light if you want a second light.

A lot of the stuff in the cookware kit is unnecessary but could just be left.

Do you already have a stove or how are you planning on cooking?

The water purifier looks like a chinese knockoff of the Sawyer mini, which is about the same price.

The sleeping pad might not be enough, I think you want one that is a minimum 3.5 r value if you are expecting snow.

You mentioned having a 3 season bag, if it isnt at at least 15-20 degrees below than your expected temps then you will probably be very cold.

Edit: these cascade mountain poles are generally better reviewed and are about the same price, they are also sold in stores at Sam's Club or Costco (cant remember which).

Edit 2: Fixed the first link, it didnt work. These poles are the ones I actually have and they have held up well.

[Jansport Superbreak] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0007QCQGI/)
$25-$35

PROS

Basic as fuck.

Common the world over so you'll blend in everywhere.

Cheap.

Easy to find

Proven bag from a good brand.

Looks good with everything

HUGE variety in color options.


CONS

Basic as fuck

Common the world over

Few organization option or laptop padding(again, basic).


You cant get any more basic EDC than the old standard Jansport, its strongest qualities are also its weakness to some. No flashy sporty details means it will match with most of outfits and events short of formal. Relatively compact but with enough room to be a weekender. A nice safe EDC bag recommendations.

https://www.amazon.com/JanSport-Superbreak-Classic-Backpack-Black/dp/B0007QCQGI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504270819&sr=8-1&keywords=jansport+backpack

If you're going cold-weather camping make sure you get a bag rated for low temperatures, like this. Otherwise, you can get one like this. If you want to spend some more money and are going to start camping more often, I'd suggest a mummy bag like this.

Also, rookie campers also tend to forget a sleeping mat, like this. You put this underneath your sleeping bag so that while you sleep, you aren't laying on the hard ground. It's not strictly necessary, but it'll make sleeping a lot easier, and they usually help conserve your warmth if you're camping in cold weather. You can take any normal pillow you have, but it should probably be one that you're not afraid of getting dirty.

Were you sleeping on a pad? That makes a world of difference between staying warm or freezing at night. Most inflatable air mattresses suck heat away from you, so a closed cell foam mat would help. Also, what you wear in the bag helps. I usually sleep in long sleeve merino base layers, wool socks and even a hat.

I have this big, heavy Coleman North Rim bag for cold weather car camping duty. Pretty cheap too.

https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-North-Adult-Mummy-Sleeping/dp/B0009PUSO4

Here's the solid fuel: https://www.amazon.ca/Esbit-Ultralight-Folding-Pocket-Tablets/dp/B001HYIHGC/

Canister stove from Etekcity: https://www.amazon.ca/RioRand-Backpacking-Canister-Camping-Foldable/dp/B00FFWJIOM/

Alcohol stove: https://www.amazon.ca/Trangia-Spirit-Burner-with-Screwcap/dp/B000AR7970/

Melitta pour-over filter holder: https://www.amazon.ca/MELITTA-Plastic-Pour-Over-Coffee-Filters/dp/B00CHILTMG/

Gooseneck pot: https://www.amazon.ca/Blesiya-Stainless-Coffee-Kettle-Gooseneck/dp/B07R47CNFW/ (You need the gooseneck for a good pour-over coffee!)

I want to add a couple of these to my bike for longer trips soon;

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015I0GE6/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

mounted with this;

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B005HEJ24Y/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_7?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A4KBP2A3U6C7U

I would also recommend water treatment tablets. The water supply could be undrinkable for days, and you may run out of potable water supply.

Pet food, extra set of shoes/sneakers, and spare eyeglasses.

Additionally, I keep a kit in my car, and one in my home.

A pump like the MSR MiniWorks is a classic choice. They work forever if taken care of. Aquamira is a popular chemical solution, although a bit expensive. Iodine is a go-to answer as well. Sawyer Squeeze is one of the lightest solutions and quickly becoming VERY popular, just don't burst the bag. I currently have a Steripen but it stopped working half way through my last trip so I'm planning to stop carrying it, otherwise it worked well for 3 years with no complaints.

I'm fully clothed wearing a coat. Homeless challenge.

Backpack - $12.95
headlamp - $10.17
sleeping bag - $24.00
travel toothbrush + paste set - $4.90
Dr Bronner Soap - $4.99
baby wipes - $3.95
Good pocket knife - $12.99 metal spork - $2.16 pot - $8.96 stove + fuel - $10.99 $96.06 add on a bottle of water and bic lighter from a store and that's it.

I keep this bag in my truck in case I need to get home on foot and for day hikes. It's an REI Stoke 9, jam packed with the following (left to right):

 

GSI Outdoors Glacier Stainless Bottle Cup/Pot

Etekcity Ultralight Portable Outdoor Backpacking Camping Stove

Food - Cliff Bars and GU

Gorilla Tape To-Go

Morakniv Companion Fixed Blade Outdoor Knife

SecureLine 100-Feet 550 Nylon Paracord

Petzl Pro Am'D Screw-Lock Carabiner

LifeStraw Personal Water Filter

Coast 20266 HL46 Dual-Color LED Headlamp

Extra AAA batteries

Coast HP2 Universal Focusing 85 Lumen Penlight

Waterproof Windproof Matches

Nite Ize Gear Tie Reusable Rubber Twist Tie, 6-Inch, Blue, 2-pack

Small Flask

Headphones

Mophie Powerstation and cord

PackTowl Personal Towel

Nylon Tarp with Bungee Ties - think this came with my REI 2 person tent - awesome instashelter

Extra Underwear

SmartWool socks

Wool beanie

Vinyl poncho

Adventure Medical Kits Ultralight & Watertight .5 First Aid Kit

Also in the FAK pouch: Bic Lighter, Rubber gloves, Emergency Blanket

Coast BX310 Lock Back Folding Knife 2.63-Inch Blade

Coast LED145 LED Micro Pliers

REI Stoke 9 Pack

 

*Full disclosure, my wife used to work for Coast.

Edit 1: hella formatting errors

You ought to look into a steel can cup. They’re made to slide on the bottom of a nalgene but they nest on the SOL bivvy you have perfectly and gives you the ability to boil water.

i prefer a simple backpack so i bought a jansport

not too expensive either.

I use toe warmers inside my boots on particularly cold sessions. https://www.amazon.com/HotHands-Toe-Warmers-Odorless-Activated/dp/B0007ZF4PE

I know a few people who love their boot gloves. https://www.northerniceanddance.com/boot-gloves-lights-boot-covers-p-928.html

You might be surprised what a difference something like simple leg warmers can make.

If you can find zip off or snap off warmup pants, it’s an extra layer you can shed when you get warm or add when you get chilly. I wouldn’t wanna wear them the whole time, but they’re nice for beginning and end of the session

Get you a emberit fireant
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00P2XDTMQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_9L0TzbSYJECS7

And a trangia alcohol stove
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000AR7970/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1505184435&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=trangia+alcohol+stove&dpPl=1&dpID=41d9tYSe2BL&ref=plSrch

I love this combo. The trangia stove fits right in the top of the fire ant.

When the weather is bad or if I'm in a hurry I'll use the trangia + fireant. I'll dig a hole in the ground and put th fire ant down in the hole as a wind screen if I'm using the fireant + trangia combo.

If it's not raining I'll use just the fireant. load it up with some wood shavings and other tinder and light it up!

You have an extra 0 on that link so it doesn't work. Here's the correct link:

http://www.amazon.com/Trangia-Spirit-Burner-with-Screwcap/dp/B000AR7970/

Edit: typo

Well that can be a long list... here goes though:

Water

Dehydrated food

Cooking utensils (I just bring a small pot/cup and a spork personally)

Stove

Sleeping bag

Tent (two pound, two person from Big 5)

550 paracord

2 tarps

Katadyn base camp filter

Sunshade for camping pad

Multi-tool

Compass

Map

Lighter & matches

Water purifying tablets

I'm sure I'm leaving a few things off, but those are several of the basics

Fixed Link:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001IPKL7I/

Those issued TA-50 bags get handed out to dozens, maybe hundreds of SMs over the course of their life, so it's not really a problem here. They're mostly just a place to stuff your body when it's balls cold, along with the clothes you're wearing (but not your boots) and a woobie.

If it's not balls cold you're usually just lying on top with mosquito nets over you.

I always carry a "Woobie"

Genuine US Military All Weather Poncho Liner Blanket https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001L0VX2W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_tpBUzbK6YYPDF

MREs, or just use an ultralight stove. A soda can stove and small bottle of alcohol weighs almost nothing, or you can get a $10 canister stove and a 110g fuel canister and be well under a pound, and even lighter if you spend more on the stove. My whole cook kit I take for short trips weighs about a pound and cost under $20, including the stove, fuel, and the cup I boil in. 1/2 the weight and 1/5 the cost of a jetboil, but a bit slower and less efficient.

Sven Saw SVEN01-BRK Folding... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002J900EQ?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

All you want to do is piss them off? Because that is how pepper spray and tasers generally work on animals. If they understand you did it, you are screwed. If they just think something happened and they don't know what you might be OK. Animals like bears and dogs are very sensitive to pepper spray in their noses due to their sense of smell, but their nose and eyes aren't connected in the same way as humans so you don't get the same set of effects as you do with pepper spraying a human.

That being said the best pepper spray device on the market is made by Kimber. It shoots further and more accurately, requiring less proximity to be useful. http://www.amazon.com/Kimber-LA98002-Pepperblaster-2-Grey/dp/B004MG63X6/ref=sr_1_2?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1370191831&sr=1-2&keywords=kimber+mace+pepper+gun

I live in Lowell and this is what I carry on myself for self-defense. Lowell also has a 2.5" blade limit.

There's a spray that comes in a shape that is similar to some of the pocket pistol holsters that expose the trigger. So you basically grip it like a gun and shoot the attacker in the face. Here's the one

All of this is stored in the trunk of my Jeep strapped down in the black tote pictured. I didn't get all of these things at Amazon, but tried to find a link to purchase everything.

Not pictured is a rollbar mounted fire extinguisher

This isn't specifically for camping, just what I have on me at all times.

Starting at the top right:

• Three pack of road triangles
  
  
• Solar power bank
  
  
• Leatherman Super Tool 300 in black oxide
  
  
• Cyber Power inverter
  
  
• Bungee cords
  
  
  
• Ratchet and random sockets
  
  
  
• Ratchet strap
  
  
  
• Jumper cables
  
  
  
• 30,000 tow strap
  
  
  
• Target brand first aid kit
  
  
  
• Coast px20 with red beam
  
  
  
• Coghlans right angle flashlight
  
  
  
• Eton solar/ crank radio and light
  
  
  
• Tire pressure gauge
  
  
  
• Digital tire pressure gauge
  
  
  
• Military issue folding shovel
  
  
  
• 7 ton shackle permanently borrowed from my ship
  
  
  
• 75ft of paracord
  
  
• Harbor Freight wrench set
  
  
• Harbor Freight torque wrench
  
  
• 20'x20' blue tarp
  
  
  

Hell a mora knife works better too, like this which is what use. Thing's tough as hell and pretty reasonably priced. The highq model at half the price is almost as good too.

The Morakniv brand of knives are extremely high quality for the price.

I have a stainless, a carbon steel and a coated carbon steel. I like the coated the most, but when I got some rust on my carbon, I took it off with steel wool and 'blued' it under my gas range. It's now exotic iridescent blue and purple colors, but it doesn't rust anymore. I didn't care because it cost me 12 dollars.

The coated was around 40 dollars I think...I use this one primarily when hiking, mushroom hunting or wildcrafting / digging in dirt. It's great. It's orders of magnitude a better, lighter, sturdier, handier knife than any of the clunky US marine, bowie, gerbie, honking, boneheaded bad designed knifes out of the US; also with swedish quality steel and lower price.

Ive used these for cooking, gardening and foraging / whittling / and bushcraft. I cannot say better things about Morakniv. Sure, there may be better knives but not for the price.

There you go

My inside-of-my-tent setup is as follows:

Hanging LED tent light, that baby lights my whole tent brightly making it easy to find anything I need, and it has a push-button on switch so it's easy to reach up and turn it on in the dark. (something that looks almost exactly like this: http://www.batteriesinaflash.com/survival-gear/accessories/se-professional-fl8824-camping-tent-light-24-white-led-bulbs?gclid=CIz0zY600b0CFVKDfgodh6oAJA)

Pee jug (I use an empty laundry detergent container because it smells nice and there's no confusing it for water/juice/etc.)

Pee funnel since I'm a lady (I use this one http://www.amazon.com/Jobar-International-Ez-Travel-Urinal/dp/B004ANM6C8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1396978030&sr=8-2&keywords=pee+funnel)

A package of ear plugs, a sleep mask, and a package of baby wipes sit in the little hanging tent cargo pocket thing. I like to baby wipe my arms and legs before getting into my sleeping bag.

A large sheet to cover my bed when I'm gone.

A battery operated tent fan.

Water bottle full of water.

A good, fluffy pillow!! I find that no matter what I'm sleeping on, if I have a comfortable pillow I sleep SO much better. When camping, for me, the pillow is the number one most important part of the bed.

http://www.amazon.com/Jobar-International-Ez-Travel-Urinal/dp/B004ANM6C8

[You're welcome.] (https://www.amazon.com/Jobar-International-Travel-Urinal-Reusable/dp/B004ANM6C8/ref=sr_1_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1482547272&sr=8-2&keywords=female%2Burination%2Bfunnel&th=1)

Anyone have experience with the Kimber Pepper Blaster? Without firearms experience, I'm thinking that going directly to CC might not be the best route.

I would still recommend she get a firearm for home defense since posting up with your back against the wall aiming down a hallway in your own home is something you can easily train for at the range.

I carry this sometimes:

http://www.amazon.com/Kimber-PepperBlaster-II-Gray/dp/B004MG63X6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1449780612&sr=8-1&keywords=kimber+pepper+blaster

I know your comment is in jest, but the American one actually you use as a sit down toilet. It has a hole to poop through while sitting down and doing everything else except opening cans. Or pulling nails. Or hammering. But you can poop. And fold it into a small backpack size.

http://www.amazon.com/Military-Original-E-Tool-Entrenching-Shovel/dp/B004SOPJG4

Back when I was trying to choose a good shovel it was a debate between the Cold Steel Special Forces Shovel and the Chinese Military Issue shovel.

I ended up going with the Cold Steel version for a couple reasons: one, price. I just can't justify spending almost $100 on a shovel. Two, complexity. The Cold Steel version is simple, extremely rugged, lightweight, and just works. It's tough as hell, does the job it's supposed to do, and I really have no complaints. It's based off the Russian Spetsnaz shovel. The Chinese version just looks like it's too complex for its own good.

I'd really recommend the Cold Steel one unless you have a lot of disposable income and don't mind the problem inherent to more moving parts.

Other options include the Glock entrenching tool,the popular SOG entrenching tool and the US Military entrenching tool.

I'd still recommend Cold Steel's offering over all of these.

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The Wirecutter just did an in-depth review on (full-sized) shovels which I would recommend over a small folding one if you have the space. If you really don't have the space, this one on Amazon comes well reviewed and is military issue

I just bought these and they are amazing. Also only $29 at Costco. http://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

For poles I can recommend the Black Diamond Distance Z-Poles. I've heard good things about the Cascade Mountain carbon fiber poles, which are quite a bit cheaper and lighter.

Like a lot of folks here, I use an Enlightened Equipment Revelation quilt with a Thermarest NeoAir Xlite pad. Highly recommended.

Don't hesitate to mail order. REI simply does not carry some of the best ultralight gear.

Follow the advice in this post over on /r/ultralight and post here (or there) and it will make it a lot easier for people to offer help/suggestions.

Cascade Mountain Tech Carbon Fibre Flick Lock Poles are light, cheap and pretty durable for their price point. Note: Rubber handle is cheaper than cork handle. Make sure you get flick lock, not twist lock.

JetBoil (+Accessories) is heavy compared to other gas stoves. Alcohol stoves are lighter again, but definitely more work and require more patience. Going no-cook (not something I would do) can be lighter again...

Tents are traditionally lighter than hammocks, some people prefer sleeping in hammocks...

Good / Light / Cheap. Pick 2 when Sleeping Bags are concerned. Quilts are lighter (but aren't suitable for everyone, I don't like them.) Feathered Friends, Enlightened Equipment get a bit of love, but there are others out there. Need to know what temperature range you're camping in. No point suggesting a 50° bag if you'll be pitching in 10° weather all the time.

A cat food can cooker, also known as an alcohol stove, is certainly a viable option. However, it is a bit more of a hassle than other stoves, which is why I would suggest purchasing a canister stove, like the MSR PocketRocket (there is also a knockoff on Amazon that is like $5 and works just as well, I own it).

Shelter wise, it really depends on if you carry trekking poles or not (which I highly suggest you do - I have [These] (http://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Carbon-Fiber-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1422329248&sr=8-2&keywords=cascade+mountain+tech+carbon+fiber+trekking+poles&pebp=1422329248681&peasin=B007E0ZBZI) and they are awesome as well as a great price).

I highly recommend looking at a TarpTent. They are extremely lightweight and not very expensive for the quality you are getting. Note that many of the tents require the use of a trekking pole or two to set up, but a very popular tent, the 2P Double Rainbow, does not.

Sleeping system - I suggest doing some research on backpacking quilts (check out EnlightenedEquipment.com) and decide if that is something you would like. If not, and depending on your budget, you could splurge for an extremely nice Western Mountaineering sleeping bag, or take a look at the much cheaper but still nice Kelty Cosmic Down 20 degree. Lots of options here.

Take a look at the Osprey Exos pack. Very lightweight with a great suspension system and nice pocket design. You shouldn't need anything larger than 60 liters or so for a thruhike.

In general, take a look at the various subreddits here (/r/campingandhiking /r/wildernessbackpacking /r/campinggear) as well as BackpackingLight.com. BackpackingLight is a huge help with everything gear related. Register an account there and read some forum posts and don't be afraid to ask questions. Do be aware that many of the people there are extremely ultralight and may push you towards gear that you may not be comfortable with. Just let them know your skill and experience level and they will help you out, bunch of good people over there.

Look at people's gear lists that they post and don't be afraid to ask questions. Good luck!

Check out the Mora Bushcraft.

Relatively cheap and reliable, well made and comfortable in hand (plus good grip).

This is the old Mora Bushcraft Black.

I bought this from Amazon for $45, now it's $52. The new one comes with a firesteel and a holder attached to the sheath, and even that costs $66.

Have you seen the price on some of the "specialist" versions? They're outrageous.

Here's two almost identical blades, but the "bushcraft" has a blackened finish and different handle for 3x the price. Any of the moras besides the standard old versions are all overpriced from what I've seen.

Morakniv Companion Heavy Duty Knife with Sandvik Carbon Steel Blade, Military Green, 0.125/4.1-Inch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009NZVZ3E/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_FY61wbG6GZAKF

Morakniv Bushcraft Carbon Black Tactical Knife with 0.125/4.3-Inch Carbon Steel Blade and Plastic Sheath https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009O01H0Y/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_c061wb6NWB39Q

From Left to right


-Key-chain: Keys, Carabiner (made in china), 4sevens Mini X Quark 123, Corsair Flash Voyager Mini 64 GB USB 3.0, and Leatherman Squirt PS4


-Pilot Precise V5 RT Rolling Ball Pens, Extra Fine point, Black Ink

-Spyderco Endura 4 Saber Grind VG-10 steel

-Maxpedition Micro Wallet in OD green

-Mora Bushcraft Black Carbon Steel Fixed Blade

Off camera/Forgotten Items

-Mini Bic Lighter

-Samsung Flight II SGH-A927

-Burt Bee's Chapstick

http://www.amazon.com/Chinese-Military-Shovel-Emergency-WJQ-308/dp/B00A2GLZS8

I might get one for innawoods oper8ing

Amazon

If you're looking at foldable shovels, I'd check out the Chinese Military issue one here ---> http://www.amazon.com/Chinese-Military-Shovel-Emergency-WJQ-308/dp/B00A2GLZS8

Here's a pretty quirky government video that demonstrates the many uses of it--->https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b60OZhrTB6o

I don't have any experience with one myself, but they seem pretty useful and might be of interest to you or any other outdoorsman here.

My wife and I sleep on this Coleman double size cot.
https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Airbed-Folding-Tables-Battery/dp/B00AU6AVLW/

It comes with an air mattress but i've yet to take it out of the box because it's useless. The listing says it's a queen and it may be if using the air mattress but the cot itself is a dbl. We put an old 4 inch memory foam pad on top with regular flannel sheets and down comforter.

The cot has a carrying case and folds down to about 3'x 8"x 8". I found it for sub $100 open box/return.

It's just about as comfortable as our bed at home and we sleep great at burns. There is a metal spine right down the middle so you can't really sleep comfortably there. Also sex tested and approved!

I have one of these and it's awesome! Plenty of space to stash stuff underneath too. It is pretty big/heavy but it's worth it.

If you have room in your car and room in your tent I highly recommend picking this up!

Coleman Airbed Cot - Queen https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AU6AVLW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_S4hqzbGC9CTPA

Tried at Scamp last month and it helped me get some of the best camping sleep ever.

i think for a tent your looking for a teepee style tent for your headroom. also i would suggest something more along the lines of a sleep cot rather than an air matress to have a more rigid sitting position. or you can get something like this for the best of both worlds

Eagle scout here and I've been thinking about how to get back camping almost weekly since I got my chair. The absolute best solutions I've come up so far involve a straight leg pop-up tent, this product which turns a 10'x10' pop-up into a walled tent (they also have a 12'x12' option), and something like this cot so I can avoid transferring to and from the floor.

Other options I can suggest would be to rent a yurt or contact a local renn faire/SCA group and ask if anyone is willing to rent out/loan a pavilion tent for the event

If the terrain is not wheelchair friendly and replacing the rear wheels with some "Sumos" or other mountain bike-esque fat knobby tire, and your budget allows I also suggest looking into the Rough Rider wheelchair from Whirlwind. It's a folding all-terrain wheelchair designed so most if not all parts can be sourced from hardware stores if need be, runs about $900 USD.

Good luck with the planning and wishing you much happiness!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00AU6AVLW/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1485365147&sr=8-7&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=coleman+cot&dpPl=1&dpID=41AyH1aznUL&ref=plSrch

It may be pricey, but it's totally worth it

Por que no los dos!?

Andrew Skurka officially recommends the Cascade Mountain Tech Quick Lock Poles. He puts in a lot of miles, so they're pretty durable.


I've had a set of the foam-handled ones for a few years now. I'm pretty sure I've put more than 400 miles on them and they're still going strong so you can add my recommendation too :) Hard to beat for $36 on Amazon :)

these or these. /thread

$40 dollars. Way less than the black diamond and comparable quality. See andrew skurka's comparison.

thanks to /r/ultralight :)

Jansport: http://www.amazon.com/JanSport-Superbreak-Classic-Backpack-Black/dp/B0007QCQGI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406183361&sr=8-1&keywords=jansport

North Face: http://www.amazon.com/The-North-Face-Borealis-Daypack/dp/B0089RQY06/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1406183374&sr=8-3&keywords=north+face+backpack

This works for me , Cloud storage is your friend.

Not to be found.

How about this?

JanSport Superbreak Classic Backpack Black
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0007QCQGI/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8

I bike year round in the prairies in Canada. I've tried different footwear and sock combos and nothing worked. I just have bad circulation I guess. The only thing that works for me is winter boots with these.

There are battery powered heated insoles that I will hopefully get for Christmas. That's the real solution I think.

Gloves don't cut it when it gets cold. I bought some good mitts for the cold days (my idea of cold is -25C/-13F). I haven't had problems with my hands getting cold.

I'm getting really excited to try my newish Farley in the snow. None yet though.

http://imgur.com/a/9UNfK

Next step from decent socks and boots, is a pair of these -
https://www.amazon.com/HotHands-Toe-Warmers-Odorless-Activated/dp/B0007ZF4PE/
After that, it's on to electric heaters. Although I do have a pair of Boot Gloves that I find do help on very cold days.
https://dryguy.com/product/Boot_Glove

Current temps have been around high 20s-32ish at night. as someone that loves sleeping bags my first recommendation is to get two wool blankets. I currently use 1 fleece blanket, 1 wool blanket, 1 shitty lightweight comforter, and I am so damn warm!!
I am going to get one more wool to replace the comforter.
But this is a sleeping bag I love and takes care of all of those just about https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-North-Adult-Mummy-Sleeping/dp/B0009PUSO4/ref=sr_1_2?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1481924759&sr=8-2&keywords=coleman+zero+degree

Slept in this bad boy in 5 degree weather. Feet got a little chilly but was comfy otherwise https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009PUSO4/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Edit: It's a little bulky but not super heavy

Add an alcohol stove, bottle of denatured alcohol, cook kit, and pot stand.

Ditch the water packets and get a Klean Kanteen bottle. Keep it filled with water, and add another non-crushable container for extra water.

Now you can make hot tea, hot chocolate, coffee, grits, oatmeal, etc.

Add a hooded blanket tarp thing, some paracord, and a surplus military wool blanket. Maybe some cheap trekking poles or bamboo garden poles. Now you have a poncho and shelter! Add a few "contractor grade" trash bags just in case.

Add a pair of wool socks and comfortable shoes.

Extra batteries for the flashlight.

Safety vest or some kind of reflective thing.

PS: those lifeboat rations taste awful

Water System:

-Sawyer Micro Squeeze w/ adaptor for back flushing
($45.40 on Amazon )

-2L Evernew Water Bag
($15.82 on Amazon )

-2 1L Smart Water Bottles ($5)

Cook Set:

-Toaks Titanium 900 ml pot
( $60.81 on Amazon )

-Light My Fire Spork
( $3.56 on Amazon )

Or, you could use a long handled spork to reach into dehydrated meal bags, e.g. Boundless Voyage, Toaks, Snow Peak, etc (More Expensive)

A cheap disposable option is a Dairy Queen large spoon if you don’t require a fork.

-Optional hot drink mug: GSI Infinity Backpackers Mug
( $11.09 on Amazon )

Stove:

Alcohol Options:

• DIY cat stove with integrated pot holder (go on YouTube)
  
  -Trangia or Titanium alcohol stove e.g. Vargo Triad
  
  -Make a DIY beer can or aluminum flashing windscreen (YouTube)
  
  [You need to make sure that the alcohol stove has a snuffer cap if a fire ban is in effect]
  
  [If you use an alcohol stove, you will need a leakproof fuel bottle- check MEC, Litesmith, or use an old fuel stabilizer bottle]
  
  [In Canada, good alcohol fuels are Methyl Hydrate and Captain Phab Marine Stove Fuel]
  
  Gas Stoves:
  
  I don’t use a gas stove, however, here are a few I have heard of that are more affordable.
  
  
• MSR Pocket Rocket 2
  ($59.95 on Amazon )
  
  
• BRS Titanium Burner
  ($20.93 on Amazon )
  
  

I have one of these mil surplus sets, the stand works perfectly as a windscreen & pot holder, I use it with a trangia burner and this snow peak cookset. I bought an extra silicon bowl and a few cups and can stuff 2 bowls and 4 cups in the cookset & it still fits in the nylon mesh bag it comes with.

For the trangia stove, it boils water quite fast with this setup, you can adjust the flame, and it has a screw on lid so you can save unused fuel, well worth the $15.

MSR 30oz Fuel bottle, $17 on amazon
https://www.amazon.com/MSR-11832-Fuel-Bottle-30oz/dp/B0015I0GE6

Zip tie it to your bike if you're not the kind to ride with saddlebags/backpack to put it in

I've used it multiple times for myself and others, a quarter gallon is enough to get you to the nearest station unless you REALLY fucked up, even if you only get 30 mpg it's still >7 miles of fuel, double that for a 250 or so.

I bought this low brow custom mini gas can holder that has two Velcro straps to mount it on the forks or part of the frame of a bike. I am only using one in the middle and looped it through the helmet hook thing and tightened the Velcro around it. Be warned though, the Velcro has rubbed off part of the paint on the fairing it rests on due to friction of it moving when the bike is moving. So I put two clear rubber stubs that prevent contact of the Velcro with the fairing which seems to help but the paint in that area is already messed up now. Lol and I get around 5-10 extra miles, which is usually more than enough to get my to the next closest gas station, at least where I live.
Here’s a link to the mount:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F322247080364

And the fuel bottle, I bought the 30oz

MSR Liquid Fuel Bottle, 30-Ounce https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015I0GE6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_a.S.BbYM4PC30

Sorry if formatting is weird, I’m on mobile.

Yeah, that was a bit cunty, my bad.

If you're going to do it (wouldn't recommend it), but at least look into a better container. These are for a different kind of fuel, but it's aluminum and apparently a lot of people use them for gas.

http://www.amazon.com/MSR-11832-Fuel-Bottle-30oz/dp/B0015I0GE6/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1421017999&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=MSR

I wanted to have a stove do double-duty. Especially when it came to fuel. I have the MSR Whisperlight International stove. I carry 2 fuel canisters (30oz ea). I had one back when I was backpacking and it never let me down, but sold it when I left Colorado for the midwest where camping just didnt hold up to the Rockies.

It will use Unleaded fuel. As will the bike. So, in case I get stuck somewhere with an empty bike, I can use the stove fuel to get me another 40+ miles to a gas station where I can refuel everything.I have never had any issue with the stove heating water or making soup or rice or anything else, and the burn rate on the gasoline is fairly good, I didnt even use half a tank all year last year camping.


MSR Whisperlight International Stove

MSR Fuel Canisters

No matter what, it will come down to preference. Jet Boil works great, but it is quite a bit larger and you have to have special fuel canisters and all. The MSR is just what I happen to like the best and suits my needs.

Amazon sells a few different fuel bottles:

• MSR
  
• Trangia
  
  There are more options, as well.

Exactly! From the beginning of this I have said that it NEVER hurts to be ready for the worst. Where I live we get a lot of earth quakes and I am sure within my life we'll get a nasty one. Our building codes are VERY strict and I don't fear that my place will tip over, but the power grid in the US is VERY old and in need of repair badly.

We lost power out here two years ago over about 2 days and people were freaked out. What happens when something really bad happens and it's a week or two weeks with no power, no gas, the food starts dwindling and people are running around like crazy trying to get food to eat.

I'll have my MRE's not the best food in the world, but damn I won't starve to death. I think about prepping hardly ever and I need to get my self re situated and make sure I have everything back together again. I even made a list here for people who were new to prepping. My list is far from a complete list of things one would like to have, but it has the essentials.

My personal Kit:

Item| Cost | Unit
:--|:--|:--
Water | $1.00 | 1 Gallon / person / day
DYI Meals Ready to Eat | $3.50 | Per Unit
Life Straw | $19.99 | 1
50 FT of Utility Rope | $11.49 | 1
Multitool - Leatherman | $27.00 | 1
Flashlight - Crank LED | $9.99 | 1
Potable Water Treatment Tablets | $5.99 | 1
Magnesium Fire Starter | $4.33 | 1
Trash Bag | $0.50 | 2
Vitamins | $15.27 | 1
Total | $99.56 |
_ | |
Added for EVD | |
Latex Gloves | $9.34 | 1
Option A| |
Reperator | $28.90 | 1
Replacement Filter | $8.90 | 1
Option B| |
N95 Mask| $14.79 | 10
| |
Total A| $47.14 |
Total B| $24.13 |
| |
Grand Total A| $146.70 |
Grand Total B| $123.69 |

The fact of the matter is that the subreddit for the most part seems to be under the illusion that if you don't live in West Africa you are 100% safe, which is a dangerous thought to have.

As /u/snorgsniffer said yesterday

>When confronted with dire circumstances beyond their control, humans predictably engage in one of the following behaviors:

> Denial
> Delusion
> Distraction
> Dismissal
> * Drugs / Drink (altered state of consciousness)

>All of those things result in still another "D"... delay
It's clear that both the victims and potential responders are engaging in "D behaviors" at this time.

>My point? It is almost impossible to change someone's mind using logical argument when their conclusion is an irrational, emotional one. They just burrow deeper into their chosen coping behavior when forced to look even more closely at the thing which frightened them so badly in the first place.

>Though not directly news related, I think understanding the psychological underpinnings of the outbreak is important when interpreting the nuts & bolts side of it. This sub seems to me like a good place to see it discussed. There are some really bright people here.

A lot of people are giving voice to their coping mechanisms of denial to make themselves feel better. I don't think their attitude will change until the numbers reach upwards of 50,000 and the people start fleeing and spreading this crap all over the globe.

Wow. Yea I can see that.

Someone should write a book; a street survival nutrition guide. It's not easy to buy the kind of food that works best in those situations from regular grocery stores.

Edit: we've been fly fishing out in the middle of nowhere for so long I can cook a surprising amount of stuff on this little stove the size of a pack of cigarettes, called an Esbit stove. Once you have the little stove, moreover, which costs about $10, the solid fuel pellets are really cheap. I could write an Esbit stove healthy field cooking cookbook.

Pot $12 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004Z10XTI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_ZcYNyb0J85PK0

Folding stove and fuel $10 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001C1UGVO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_phYNybV3AVZ1B

Not throwing money at a deceptive half assed kickstarter $ !=

Edit: and look a huge kit on sale https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GG5FXHW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_zkYNybKKJMJZR

Pretty sure this is a portable camp stove. You would maybe soak that pad in alcohol and set a pot on top. Something similar to this: https://www.amazon.com/Esbit-Ultralight-Folding-Pocket-Tablets/dp/B001C1UGVO/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1539965937&sr=8-14&keywords=camp+stove+folding

I just recently went on my first backpacking trip. It was just an overnight trip, but I used this: http://www.amazon.com/Esbit-Ultralight-Folding-Pocket-Tablets/dp/B001C1UGVO

It was the cheapest (10 dollars including enough fuel for a day or two), smallest stove I could find, it was rated well and I got free shipping. After using it, I was very happy with it. I used it to boil water for coffee, and I cooked hotdogs and chili with it as well.

I was literally just using it on the ground (and I only brought a small lantern and some glow-sticks with me for light. I was able to cook on it in the dark nonetheless. Super easy and effective.

If I decide to go on longer trips, I might get something bigger, but then again I might not. It's pretty awesome.

The only downside is that the fuel has a bad odor, and you have to wash your hands (or wear gloves) when handling it. Simple problem to fix though. Just don't sit downwind of it and keep your food covered if possible.

Over the past year I've been piecing together camping gear. I ultimately plan on doing backpacking trips once I become a more experienced camper, and graduate college. Growing up, I went camping frequently but never really did any backpacking or primitive camping where you have to hike to the campsite - my dad always took us to the campsites you can drive up to. My friend, who boasts about the camping etiquette and survival skills he learned in boy scouts, justly criticizes my experience camping - which is limited to campsites that don't require you to pack light and have easy access to water (and restrooms). For example, I've never had the opportunity of digging a hole to shit in. Do I just dig a hole with my hands? Do I need to bring a shovel? How much toilet paper do I need to bring for a 2-3 day trip? I know I have to bring the used paper with me, so how do you recommend carrying trash in general?

Things like this I figure I'd learn overtime. And I do plan on pacing myself; I'm going to work my way up from 1-2 day trips to 2-3 day trips to 4-5 day trips, and ultimately something like the Appalachian Trail. My favorite place to go camping is Big Bend National Park, and there's a 2-3 day trip I'd like to do sometime this year.

I guess my main questions are:

1. How would you recommend starting off? Would a couple of 2-3 day backpacking trips, with my friend, be a good place to start?
   
2. Is my gear sufficient? Is there anything I'm missing?
   
3. Any general tips, book or gear suggestions.
   
   Here's a list of my gear:
   
   

• REI Passage 2 Tent
  
• Osprey Volt 75 Backpack w/ bladder
  
• Marmot Trestles 30 Sleeping Bag and a sleeping pad
  
• Hammock (which I think, if i'm using a tent, would make for a great pillow when it's folded up)
  
• Mess Kit and utensils
  
• Fuel Tablet Camping Stove
  
• Rechargeable flashlight
  
• A small, rechargeable lantern
  
• 2 multi-tool pliers - one big, one small
  
• 2 knifes
  
• First aid kit
  
  Also, I plan on getting a pair of hiking boots this summer. Any suggestions?
  
  edit: grammar

I use an alcohol stove. The one I have is made by these guys from those heavy aluminum beer bottles. It will not crush easily and comes with a windscreen. You could just make your own though.

There are other companies who make alcohol stoves and even sell them on Amazon.

Lots of people like Esbit stoves but the fuel is harder to come by.

For a canister stoves I think UL folks go with the MSR Pocket Rocket but I am not sure because I haven't used one in over 8 years.

I was going to say Esee is a good starting point. My personal favorite are Survive! knives. https://surviveknives.com/

They're just very hard to get.

From more mass-produced stuff on the lower end:

https://www.amazon.com/Ka-Bar-Becker-Combat-Bowie-Fixed/dp/B001IPKL7I/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=BK-9&qid=1565302535&s=gateway&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.com/KA-BAR-Becker-Campanion-Fixed-Blade/dp/B001N1DPDE/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=BK-9&qid=1565302535&s=gateway&sr=8-3

https://www.amazon.com/Ontario-8604-RAT-7-Knife-Tan/dp/B0013AW8D8/ref=sr_1_30?crid=18LHTWFQCW6Y3&keywords=rat+knife+ontario&qid=1565302569&s=gateway&sprefix=rat+knife%2Caps%2C211&sr=8-30

https://www.amazon.com/TOPS-Knives-Brothers-Bushcraft-Handle/dp/B004GAM1UC?ref_=bl_dp_s_web_9741493011

Higher end is a toss up between a lot of small batch and completely custom-made knives.

I go here for most of my knife info: https://www.bladeforums.com/

:)

As far as axes or hatchets go, the best you'll find are generally hand-made and typically aren't any cheaper than $100. The Fiskars will work just fine for standard home use, however.

+1 for ESEE knives, they are fantastic products. If you want a cheaper full-tang fixed blade knife that can hold its own against ESEE or other very expensive knives, check out any of the Becker BK knives, made by Ka-Bar.

I had a Cold Steel Kukri (which isn't very good, if you're looking for a solid, inexpensive Kukri, get the Ka-Bar) and once I got my Becker BK9 I never pick it up anymore. The BK9 is smaller than a Kukri, but still has plenty of chopping power and weight behind it. The 1095 steel holds an edge very well. I've done some chopping where I was regularly hitting dirt and rocks, and the edge was still hair-shaving sharp when I was done. Throw in some Micarta Handles and a Kydex Sheath and your knife is going to last a very long time.

In general, the more you spend on a knife or axe, the better it's going to be. Obviously there are exceptions, but cheap knives are cheap because they usually use cheap steel, cheap coatings, they aren't full tang, and a number of other features that you'll only find in the $50-$70 range.

Can’t go wrong with OKC for the price. Another option might be a Becker BK9.

https://www.amazon.com/Ka-Bar-Becker-Combat-Bowie-Fixed/dp/B001IPKL7I

They’re both made from one of the standard “big knife” steels, but I can assure you that the BK9 is as tough as they come. My buddy’s has seen hard use year after year and the edge it still pristine. It’s all about the heat treatment and both companies have their proprietary method. For my money, I just think the Bowie shape is much better suited to daily chores as opposed to a kukri design, which was primarily for combat.

Anyway, just my 2¢.

> Those poles are for comfort - keep the bivy and bugs off your face. I bet you can still use that bag without the poles just fine.

For condensation also. If you don't get the fabric away from your face and allow some breathing space for moisture to pass through the Pertex membrane, the inside will gradually get wetter, which will make your sleeping bag colder. It probably would have been OK though.

> I guess keeping track of where you're going with a compass and map is the thing to do

Had a trail map and compass as always. Also a pedometer, so I knew how far in/back I was independent of the GPS. Was just following the trail blazes and signs until the weather turned bad. No issues with navigation until then. It was a unique situation for me. The trail disappeared behind me, and the small flashlight I had (batteries match the GPS, on purpose) lit up the ground in front of me but was not bright enough to search the trees 30' away looking for the dark blue blaze plates. Never thought I needed to be able to see 30' before. I've taken a better flashlight on a couple trips since then. Thankfully, I had set a waypoint at the parking area to help me find it driving on the way in. But I always have a GPS and set a waypoint at the trailhead anyway.

My point was it's a mistake to arbitrarily tell people they are not True Survivalists^^© if they take a GPS (or tent). They're cheaper than a BK9 (especially if you already have a drawer full of survival knives and axes) and could save your life. This is not Dungeons and Dragons. Having a GPS ≠ being the kid who says he has a 44 magnum in his pocket when the orcs attack.

This might fit the bill. Every 11B on the planet will agree.


ETA: $46 is far too much. Check out a local Army Surplus store.

Just going over what I've seen on your list, there's a few things I would leave out or at least have shipped to myself later on during the hike:

TP: Ditch it, Just stick with wet wipes (more luxurious and there's usually TP at shelters)

Waterproof matches: Not really needed. One of those things I ended up tossing. Mini Bic lighter was plenty for sparking fuel.

Solar Panel: I'd stick with an Anker battery. Lots of foilage on the AT, sun is spotty at a lot of spots on the trail but YMMV. I didn't have many electronics, just an iphone I kept off during the day. Would recharge it when I got in town.

Kelty Cosmic 20F S. Bag: During cooler months (March, April) it may be helpful but if you're doing a north bound hike, you'll likely want to swap this out for an Army Poncho Liner. I used this exclusively with a sleeping bag liner for warmer summer months (May, June, July etc).

Water: 2liters is plenty. I normally carried just 1 liter and would top off at streams as I hiked. Lots of water on the AT but you'll learn where the dry spots are as you hike along just listening to other hikers and local knowledge.

I would recommend a small FM radio that takes 1 AA battery and some small headphones/earbuds. That's just an example, there's plenty of cheaper options on Amazon. Kept me sane when pounding out mileage during the day. Sometimes I found myself completely alone at times. Hearing a voice on the radio is amazing! haha

Good luck with your hike, I never finished mine due to a knee injury. Made it to Virginia. That said, I learned more about myself and hiking abilities in the first week than I would have imagined.

No clue if this is going to be helpful, but I agree that those clamps will rust if they live outside and I'd like to provide some ideas from a campers perspective, as we like hanging tarps. All of these options need some small rope/paracord/bungeecord/whatever and something like an stainless eyelet screwed into the post, though they end up being simpler mechanically and easier to adjust.

1. Try to find a blanket with corner ties. I don't know if they have another name but they look like the tassle things on poncho liners.
   
   
2. Generally only tarps (not picnic blankets) have grommets but its something to think about. You can even buy grommets on their own and sew them into the blanket of your choosing if you are handy with a sewing machine. High end camping tarps like this aren't like the ones at walmart and have reinforced corners, often with D-Rings. Not cheap though. If you like stuff like this there is other fancy hardware from Dutchware that make stringing it up easier.
   
   
3. Low tech and versatile, you can use the method campers use to string up a tarp when the corner rips out. Get a small round object (a rock or something) place it into the fabric from one side and tie a knot around it from the other, it will look like this
   
   
4. Last one doesn't have traction in camping that I know of and I've never used them before, but something like these clamps might be worth a shot for the price.
   
   Edit: fixed the last link
   
   
   Good luck!

Just as important, or more, than backpack, tent, bag, & pad are your boots & socks. Your carrying yourself and all that weight in them!

Get good hiking socks from your local Outdoors shop. At least two pair of thick and two pair of thin. They should be "wicking" socks that take the moisture away from your feet. Wear the thin set inside the thick set. Put on the dry pair of thin socks at night to keep you warm. Never go to sleep in your bag with wet clothes, whether from falling into the stream or just sweating during the day, especially wet socks, if you can help it. (That's why you should always bring a set of extra clothes). But you may also want to bring a pair of socks just for sleeping.

When you shop for boots, get a good brand (e.g. Merrell or better) and don't skimp on price. These will last for years. Buy cheap and you'll be getting a new pair in just a couple of years. Shop at the end of the day when your feet are swollen and put on your two pair of hiking socks. Try several pair. Walk around the store a few times to really get a good feel for how those boots fit your feet. You don't want your toes to touch the front of the boot. EVER. unless you like yanking toe nails off your big toe. So walk fast or even run and then stop fast and try to jam those toes forward. If they touch, go up in size or find a boot with a bigger toe box. Your heel shouldn't slide forward when you're doing this.

For the stove, get one of these [cheap guys from China] (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultralight-Outdoor-Backpacking-Canister-Foldable-Mini-Camping-Stove-Gas-Burner-/252013224278?hash=item3aad28a156:g:kygAAOxyIv5TkRfF). Heck, get two in case you lose one! They work jsut as well as the name brands, have a little piezo lighter so you don't need to light it with a lighter or match, and they are SO much cheaper!

For a cook kit, you can start with the [Stanley Adventure Camp Cook Set] (http://www.amazon.com/Stanley-Adventure-Camp-Stainless-Steel/dp/B005188T90/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1458828657&sr=8-1&keywords=stanley+adventure+cook+kit). I bought mine at Walmart for $15. Get this - take out one of the plastic mugs and you can fit both the little stove AND small fuel canister into it! And the [standard GSI mug] (http://www.amazon.com/GSI-Outdoors-Glacier-Stainless-Bottle/dp/B001LF3IB6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1458828752&sr=8-2&keywords=gsi+mug) fits right over the bottom of it, AND the lid to the Stanley set is a perfect fit onto the GSI mug. I bought a knockoff at Walmart for $5.00.

As for the sleeping bag, some will recommend down because it's lighter for the same warmth rating compared to synthetic and compress for packing better than synthetic, but I will recommend synthetic because it's cheaper and down is useless if it gets wet. I have a 3lb synthetic bag that is rated at 15 deg. I sleep in a hammock and a like the synthetic bags better because they are thicker so wind doesn't rip right through them as it does for really light bags.

The "waffled" Closed Cell Foam (CCF) pad at Walmart, while not the most comfortable, will get you started. It's cheap and light and will do well enough. You can also pile leaves under the tent for extra padding.

Don't forget a groundcloth/footprint that goes under the tent! It acts as a moisture barrier and prevents damage to the bottom of the tent. The woven polyethylene (typically blue) are really heavy, so I'd recommend a thick sheet of plastic instead. It should fit completely under the tent so it doesn't catch rain and funnel it under the floor of the tent.

If you have a Big 5 near you, that's a great place to get some good gear for cheap. REI & Cabella's get kind of expensive.

I was looking for something lighter than I already had recently, mostly at REI, but then I saw several mentions of this Suisse Sport Adventurer Mummy Ultra-Compactable Sleeping Bag as a reasonably good, low-cost, not too heavy option for when it's not too cold. Comes with the left & right zippers so you can zip them together like /u/take_a_hike_pal mentioned, too. I have a pair now, just took one out for the first time this week, seems fine. More complaints in the reviews about the zippers than anything else, but I had no problem there yet. Seems like it might be a good fit for your needs, too. Just under three pounds/about 1.3 kg, whichever way you swing.

The link on the site has it for $42.99.

I prefer these saws: http://www.amazon.com/x/dp/B002J900EQ

Larger and lighter for the same price.

After some searching. Seeing some pretty bad reviews on forums though. Difficult to assemble/break down, and unable to tension blade enough to keep from bowing while sawing were the top two complaints.

Edit: Seeing lots of recommendations for the Sven saw, there is a $30 difference in price between the two though.

I use these for camping: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004ANM6C8/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_yyjttb1FDZ4Z9

If you are going to be carrying a lot of heavy stuff I actually wouldn't recommend a messenger bag. I had a timbuk2 messenger for 5 years and I loved it, but I had to buy a normal style backpack because I started carrying around my laptop all the time with my books and it just got too heavy for one shoulder. That said, they do really never wear out or break.

Right now I have a jansport. After 1.5 years it has not shown any signs of wear at all. It's also considerably cheaper, comes in a million colors, and is also the most popular backpack in the entire world. I <3 my jansport.

> My biggest issue so far has been my feet feeling extremely cold and eventually numb. This would happen at around the 3 or 4 hour mark

Get some of These, I use them during cold New England hunting trips and they keep my feet are warm all day in the woods. Stick them to your sock under your toes, the science is an oxidizer in them that generates hours of mild heat once exposed to air, done by opening the package. Carry a second packet with you and if the first one is losing it heat you can just swap them out during a break.

Those toe heaters work wonders. I used them during a CX race and they worked great - plus no covers to collect frozen mud / complicate clipping / unclipping.

http://www.amazon.com/HotHands-Toe-Warmers-40-pairs/dp/B0007ZF4PE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1416424733&sr=8-2&keywords=toe+warmer

Otherwise, thick woolies w/ winter cycling shoes + a set of the thicker Pearl Izumi shoe covers (http://shop.pearlizumi.com/product.php?mode=view&pc_id=76&product_id=2247717&outlet=&color_code=021) works well.

Toe warmers


Put them on top of your toes, not on the bottom.

Have you tried toe warmers, by any chance?

In the future, if you're in the market for some lined boots, give these a look. I have a pair, and easily they're my warmest boots. They frequently go on sale, too.

Ok so if DC doesn't get a lot of snow, you might not need all these, but I went to all the trouble of typing it up so here you go.

Some tips I hope will help you: The most important parts of your body to keep warm are your head, hands and feet. Layer your torso all you want, but if those parts get cold, so will the rest of you. Get some of these for days when you might need to be outdoors longer than usual, and keep an extra set in a pocket in case of emergencies.

Spray waterproof Scotchgard (or something similar) on the outside of your coat, gloves, hat and boots. Even if they are “water resistant,” under the right conditions (sleet, heavy snow in temperatures at or just above freezing, or simply the melting of snow once you are indoors) these items can easily and quickly become waterlogged. This will also help prevent salt stains.

You should probably have a pair of actual rain boots (some folks call them galoshes) that come up to at least mid-shin and will still fit with thick, warm socks for days when it’s slushy but still cold.

Personally, I prefer a long coat that covers my knees because they get stiff and sore if they are cold, but that’s just me. You might only need a coat that covers your butt. I would definitely suggest making sure it’s at least pea coat length, if for no other reason than to avoid snow and wind.

I'm not a fan of Coleman, but I spent a month in Africa with this Coleman North Rim 0 Degree Mummy (not a referral link), with night temps down near freezing, and it worked out great. $64 + 15% Off = $54 and free shipping. Allegedly only 3.5lbs, too. I liked this bag for sleeping on a stretcher as it was nice and wide and long enough to fit tall people, but I was able to use some of that extra space to roll up the top into a pillow. The construction also kept the wind off me.

Some of the reviews mention quality control problems with the zipper getting stuck, but I didn't have that issue, so perhaps they've since resolved it or it's isolated to production at a specific factory.

For backpacking I've got an REI Magma 10, but that is a little more than you want to spend.

For car camping I've got a Coleman North Rim, hard to beat the price. Supposedly a 0F bag, I've had mine down to 20F and it was plenty warm. I've got two of these bags, the first one is still going strong and the second one the seams are falling apart on, so the quality might not be that great on them but for less than $40 I'd still recommend it.

Dont forget a sleeping bag.

It's a Mummy sleeping bag but it's cheap, will fit you, and keep you warm. Add a couple of inexpensive fleece blankets to use when it's not so cold out and you'd be set.

Coleman North Rim Adult Mummy Sleeping Bag https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009PUSO4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_McHIzb0NRN3EG

I own this bag and absolutely love it for chilly car camping. I sleep in it in my boxers in the 20s! 3 years and many camping trips later and it still looks like new.

Coleman 0°F Mummy Sleeping Bag for Big and Tall Adults | North Rim Cold-Weather Sleeping Bag, Olive https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009PUSO4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_01sRDbBBXYCHP

Haven’t tested this out in the wild yet, but it’s in your budget, rated for 0°F, and seems very warm and comfy when I tried it out inside! I got it on sale for $35 so you might want to wait and see if it’ll go back down to that

I don't think you'd find a -5C sleeping bag that will pack small enough to backpack easily for $100CAD unless you find some very good sales. You'd need to choose a synthetic and it would likely be quite bulky and heavy, or it will be rated very liberally and wouldn't keep you as warm as it says.

Personally, I wouldn't cheap out on a sleeping bag anyways. Especially in cold weather, you want to be comfortable and warm away from civilization. You can check for deals on websites, I like TheLastHunt for past season gear but the good stuff gets snapped up very quickly and there are no returns unless the product comes damaged or different than what is ordered so you need to do your research in advance.

At full price, you'd probably need to spend another $50 minimum to find something rated to keep you warm at -5C. However, if you take care of a well made sleeping bag, it should last 10+ years with little loss of loft.

You may want to consider saving up a bit more and just purchasing a nice sleeping bag. You do have something like a Coleman or a Teton brand as an option, but it's going to be absolutely massive and the temp ratings are likely not very accurate.

Personally I chose a MEC brand (the Draco -9C) down sleeping bag. They are quite a bit past your price range (even the cheapest that fits your needs is about double your range.) I also have a 2C Chinook brand bag that I got for very cheap, but it's a summer bag.

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If you want my honest opinion, don't cheap out on a cold weather sleeping bag. Other pieces of gear failing might be fine, or if you are car camping you have a safety net, but if a sleeping system fails you when backpacking, you could possibly be in a lot of trouble. If you can, spend a bit more and get something you can trust and enjoy your time in. $200-300 for something that will last you years and years is worth it.

Otherwise, buy a cheap bag and bring a whole lot of layers to sleep in and prepared to sleep quite uncomfortably and take up 50%-75% of your backpacks capacity.

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Also make sure you use a sleeping pad, as it will add a lot of warmth to your sleep system. A friend likes this one that is fairly inexpensive and robust, with a good r-value for 3season use.

I'm in CO too, no clue why you would want to leave CO to go camping, but look here (under mvum's) for dispersed camping in Lincoln National Forest.

What type of gear do you have? If you expect to be comfortable at 30F, why not just get a 0F mummy bag (like this ~$35 usd one, which I use) and camp much closer to home?

I know Coleman isn't the sharpest tool in the shed when compared to some high tech hiking/camping gear companies but here's my .2 cents. I started hiking this year. I bought this bag https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004HTYU2Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1, it's a 40 degree, $50(at the time) bag that weights about 3lb. I wrap it in a tarp which also serves as my tent pad and strap it under my 33L osprey. I have gotten used to it and see no issues with the setup. now moving into the winter I'm getting the winter version of this bag https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009PUSO4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1. I'll have it this week so if ur still in the market i can give u the rundown of what I see.
I guess the take away here is that some gear is meant to last for a LONG time. I prefer to know what I want before I make a bigger investment so when I start having problems, I'll upgrade.

I've met lots of people with dragonfly stoves - it presses home though why the whisperlite is named as such. the noise THE NOISE that a dragonfly makes..
this (control) is a real problem with whisperlites though - if i want to apply less heat than the lowest working setting (will vary with fuel type and quality), i tend to just hold the pan above the flame - practical enough when frying eggs, perhaps less so with more elaborate cuisine.

an inexpensive way to have a gentle simmer - buy (or better, make your own) spirit burner; very light and inexpensive so no biggie if you decide you don't like it. they don't have the grunt that petrol or gas stoves have, but i was impressed with how good they actually are. (something like www.amazon.co.uk/Trangia-Spirit-Burner-With-Screwcap/dp/B000AR7970 or home-made - http://www.instructables.com/id/Can-Stove/ ) a spirit stove is hardly an encumbrance, so you can simmer your dinner on it, while making tea AT THE SAME TIME. (my god, the luxury)
a small bottle of ethanol is useful to have in any event, for lots of things, not least cleanly priming your whisperlite, or getting the f*cker to light at all if you're using paraffin or diesel.

I've made many alcohol stoves and have found that the penny stove is the best overall design. You can pour unused fuel back into the bottle and it has pretty good heat output. If you don't mind a little more weight the Trangia stove is a good option-it's quite a bit more durable than the penny stove, and you can carry it with fuel in it without spilling.

I've made several quilts, both down and synthetic. Down is a bit of a PITA to deal with so take that into account. A climashield quilt is pretty easy on the other hand-quilt it with yarn and very easy to handle during construction. Not compressible though, unlike down. I do also have the EE Revelation in regular/regular/20 degree rating and am very happy with it. I was out with it the other night in Shenandoah-33 degrees with high humidity and was nice and warm sleeping in a base layer and underwear.

Cat food can stove, denatured alcohol and ramen. Cost a fraction and provides sufficient calories. Add a few snickers in there for variation.


This is the best suggestion. Ramen can be eaten without cooking too. Throw in a few sauce packs from restaurants like soya, chili sauce, mayo, Vary up the Snickers with Tiger bars, granola bars, Cliff bars etc. A few packs of tuna and chicken in the foil packs. A few tins of Vienna sausage. 20-30 dollars should get you an awesome and compact 72 hour food kit. People tend to over think this.

Here is a better stove for 15 bucks ( I use 90% rubbing alcohol -- available at any pharmacy -- a lot for less than five dollars):

Trangia Spirit Burner

These things are cool and I've made a few but I've never had one that lasted long. I found a Trangia alcohol stove and it works the same but is made much stronger and has lasted me on all my hiking and camping trips for the last 5 years.

I think it would be worth it to spend a few dollars and have something that is durable and lasts as opposed to something that will fall apart quickly.

Yep! The Nightster has a "king sportster" tank, 3.3 gallons.

It looks just like the 2.2 gallon peanut on the 48, but it's wider and buys you over a gallon in fuel (and almost another 50 miles of range).

It's a good compromise between the standard peanut, which looks amazing but has tiny range, and the "Custom" Sportster tank which holds 4 gallons but looks dorky.

If you get some sort of luggage or a sissy bar, you can attach one of these - just in case:

https://www.amazon.com/MSR-MSRFUELBOTT-Fuel-Bottle/dp/B0015I0GE6?th=1&psc=1

You can count on having a little under 150 miles worth of usable range - a little over 2 hours between fuel stops. To be honest, I find stopping every 2 hours to stretch nice, but some people need the larger tank because they only want to stop every 3 hours or more.

Totally up to you how quick of a pace you want to keep up while touring, it really only takes 5 minutes to fuel up, so it's not THAT big of a deal.

If you prefer ultralight like me, then this setup works.

•Hammock (I use a Hennessy Hammock)

•A couple of spare fuel bottles such as the MSR ones MSR Fuel Bottle

•At least 3 liters of water strapped on somewhere. If its real hot then might want to strap on a camel back that way you can hydrate while you ride.

•A stash food in somewhere (Almonds are great for this)

•Tool kit, I wouldn't bother buying a tool kit. You should buy a pouch and tailor the tools you will need according to your bike, don't carry tools that won't even fit your bike.)

•Ditch cotton, its a horrible fabric for the outdoors. Go regular wool or if you don't like the "Itch" factor some complain about, then get merino wool.

There are more, I'll update later.

•Don't wear short sleeves whatever you do, it fatigues you more than you can imagine when your going off of a 1,000mile a day ride. If possible get a jacket that ventilates but also blocks to wind off you.

•Full Face, a must really. Too many advantages over a half shell and the like.... wind protection, decreased noise, and added protection in the case of a fall.

•Ear Plugs, Never 50+ miles without them.

•Not really a piece of gear, but a tip for when you are in a hotel. Ask for a room on the 1st floor and pull your bike up RIGHT NEXT to the door. Lock the wheel and take your gear off it. Probably the best way of making sure no one messes with your bike during the night.

•The best way to combat rain really is to get a waterproof top/bottom,water resistant boots, full face helmet, decent gloves.

There are a few things you can do. (Source: I have a bike with a small tank, only about 100 mi/160 km range, and was planning on taking some long trips before it died on me.)

• Something like this is a bit pricey by the time you install it over your passenger seat, but 5 gallons will take you a long way....
  
• The cheaper route is something like this 30 oz. MSR fuel bottle. That's fairly tiny — 30 oz. (probably American ones) ~= 887 mL ~= 0.2 gal Imp — but if you get, say, 40 mpg like my bike did (~35 mpUSgal), that's 8 miles, which is better than some alternatives. And you can always buy more than one.
  
• The even-cheaper route is to just buy a standard plastic jerry can that'll hold 1 or 2 gallons. But unless your bike has a good rack, securing it properly can be a bitch. And they're a tad more likely to leak.
  
  Have a great ride! I gotta get me a new bike....

I have a couple of these.

They don't hold a ton, but they are relatively cheap and stand up to abuse well.

No, buy one of these for the backpack/saddlebags/whatever

https://www.amazon.com/MSR-11832-Fuel-Bottle-30-Ounce/dp/B0015I0GE6

https://www.amazon.com/MSR-Liquid-Fuel-Bottle/dp/B0015I0GE6/

This little feller has saved me half a dozen times and stranded travelers on the side of the road at least twice as much. You've got no excuse with those saddle bags. Pick one up and fill it up for a buck and forget about it. Boy scout shops will have one for about the same price if you don't want to wait for shipping.

You'll need lodging, so either a tent or a plain cot. Basically you're wanting a "minimalist" camping kit. As far as water, I use these water purification tablets. Work like a charm as long as you can find a stream/river/lake. If you start with that (and obviously food) you'll find things over the years that you find repeatedly useful and start taking with you every time.

If you live near a park/greenbelt system, just put on your most comfortable athletic shoes and pack your daypack. It will probably be easy, level walking and no getting lost. It will let you see how well your shoes treat you. There are usually walking or driving routes in state parks, wildlife management areas, and wildlife refuges. Often with easy, short loops. Some ski areas have walking trails in the off season. There are also various group hikes offered by birding groups or community education. Bring some moleskin for blisters (cut into strips at home), sunscreen, and water purification tabs like these. Maybe add a cheap flashlight or headlamp and bug repellent. There’s been some great advice about what else to pack. After a while, you’ll develop a system that works for you.

Basically you got a kit that is a GearWhores dream, what you don't have is a kit that will keep you alive for more than a few days.

1. I want you to pile up all this shit you call a kit on Floor
   
2. Place an empty box on your bed and put the following in it:
   A) the ability to clean and carry water.
   B) the ability to make fire.
   C) shelter to keep dry/warm (a simple poncho and Mylar Blankets at first)
   
   At this point you could live for a couple weeks, and you've spent $40+ cost of pack
   
   D) food, start with compact shelf stable foods, like the dry emergency rations or these.
   A couple weeks worth is like $20, now if you ration you could live for over a month.
   
   3)Now throw away everything else left on the floor.
   As the other person pointed out you have 60+ pounds of junk. That fact is a kit to keep you alive for over a month should cost $60 and fit in a shoe box.

The thing with bug out bags is first figuring out where you're going to bug out to and how you're going to get there. Do you have relatives that live 100 miles away? If so can you walk there if your car is unusable? I'm still struggling with this as my family is in the exact opposite direction of where I'd want to bug out to in a disaster/ SHTF situation.

Unfortunately, BOB's can get pretty expensive quickly - I picked my bag and contents for an indefinite bug out so naturally I ended up spending a good amount of $ on it - BUT spaced out purchases throughout many months as I also didn't have the money to be spending all at once.

Anyway, if you want to keep it under $50, I'd suggest looking for second hand bags....even for a halfway decent one, this can bring your budget to at least half that. Ideally, you'll want one with an internal frame and a belt strap. This will keep the weight off your shoulders and distributed evenly throughout - this is especially important if you plan on walking a bunch of miles. If you're not planning on walking far, then this isn't much of an issue but to me, bugging out assumes some walking involved.

Following the survival rule of 3's, the first item you'll need to address is some sort of shelter. Get some 550 paracord and a decent tarp. This shouldn't cost too much and you can make a quick & easy A frame type shelter. Even a few heavy duty trash bags could go a long way (ie solar shower, solar still).

I'd def get at least a light summer sleeping bag unless you feel ok sleeping on a bundle of pine sprigs. Do you have decent hiking boots and wool socks ready to go? I see a lot of bug out bags skimping on this but to me is one of the most important things to have.

Can you start a fire with the fire striker you have? How about if the ground is wet? Not saying you need to get one of these but also not sure if you would be able to process wood with a leatherman.

Next is water. Do you have a cup/ canteen to hold/ boil water in? If you're on the run, get something like this. But if you have time to boil any stagnant water, the canteen with cup linked above is a good idea to have.

For food, yeah protein bars, cans of tuna are cheap and good to have. I got a few of these. But they actually get kinda heavy quick (3 days worth of food in one block). For longer term, I'm currently looking into a decent fishing rod and setting snares.

Hope this helps! If you want to spend a bit more $ I can share with you some of the other contents I have..

That would be water treatment/purification tablets, which they have, not dehydrated water.

Purchases so far:

• Esbit stove. Haven't had a chance to use it yet.
  
  
• Solar 5 Battery/Charger First use last weekend. Really love it so far.
  
  
• LMF "Spork"
  
  On the to-buy list, I'm hoping to get into ultralight + hammock camping for the summer:
  
  
• Exos 48 Pack
  
  
• Hennessy Hammock Expedition
  
  Also do you guys have any recommendations for a warm-weather sleeping bag? I live in GA so past April, the lows only get into the 60-70 range on a "cold" night. I'm almost leaning towards Hammock + just a warm camp blanket. Any thoughts?

https://www.amazon.com/Ka-Bar-Becker-BK9-Combat-Bowie/dp/B001IPKL7I

I have the knife if you will provide the cow

If you have a smaller knife for camp chores such as carving, food prep, fishing and lighter duties, you may want to check out the Becker BK9 as a heavy use blade that you can baton with.

Get him something like this. Nice and light/easy to handle.

In all seriousness though, some kind of Victorinox would be good, maybe the Classic

> Emergency Blankets - I carry one but I also have an emergency bivy. You would probably not need it with a hammock but I will always carry one.

Do you mean like a bivvy sack? Or like a poncho liner?

Just wondering how/if you'd use the sack with a hammock, or if you just meant … something else. I dunno.

new, http://www.amazon.com/G-I-Style-Poncho-Liner-Camouflage/dp/B000FK8XQ8/

used are here, http://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Military-Weather-Poncho-Blanket/dp/B001L0VX2W/ under the "used" section obviously

There are various modifications you can do too, like turn them into an underquilt for a hammock, or you can cut them down to smaller sizes.
http://theultimatehang.com/2013/01/diy-poncho-liner-under-quilt-pluq-sew-and-no-sew/

https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=51006

some forum-based info, https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=53398
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?4466-Army-Poncho-Liner-as-summer-bag-!-!!

As everyone else has said, ditch the sleeping bag.

Unlike everyone else, I offer a solution.

The poncho liner aka "the woobie" is the greatest creation on earth. I got one of these while I was in the military and have dragged it around the entire earth with me. Soft, perfectly warm, lightweight and highly packable. I don't know how this secret hasn't escaped the military. I will send you a link, you won't regret it!

https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Military-Weather-Poncho-Blanket/dp/B001L0VX2W

https://www.amazon.com/Generic-Genuine-Military-Weather-Blanket/dp/B001L0VX2W

It's bulky (even with the compression bag) but good enough as a standard sleeping bag, the coldest weather I used it was a little below freezing in a tent and it did fine, the link you gave claims down to -50*F, I find that hard to believe, but I'm sure someone else can chime in on the colder temps. If it were me, I'd go with something else.


Also, while of the subject of military gear, I would like to say that a poncho liner + poncho is a match made in heaven.

What is the difference between the items linked and this? I have been poncho liners aka woobies for long time and they are great.

Http://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Military-Weather-Poncho-Blanket/dp/B001L0VX2W

how about a wubbie? http://www.amazon.com/Generic-Genuine-Military-Weather-Blanket/dp/B001L0VX2W

I like the 32 ounce single walled stainless steel nalgene bottle. The one with straight walls is best because it nests snugly in the GSI/Walmart steels cup. Because it is single walled, you can boil water in it with a campfire. It is also the exact right size for a single dose of water purification tablets if you don't want to boil it.

It is hard to find now, Nalgene has switched to a tapered design closer to a tall coffee cup. That one rattles around in the GSI/Walmart cup, but apparently fits snugly inside the Stanley Adventure Camp Cook Kit.

I don't know too much about that backpack, so I can't comment, but you should be able to pickup a pack in that price range if you're just getting started.

water

A lifestraw will work, but essencially you need to go source to mouth, so if you need water for anything but drinking (i.e. for cooking) I don't know if the lifestraw will be best. Sure you can suck in, spit out, but there is a better solution: the sawyer mini is about the same price point: http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398890779&sr=8-1&keywords=sawyer+mini

meals

and that brings me to water for cooking. MREs are heavy, and while you won't be hiking far carrying that weight even for a short distance might not be the most fun (especially if you are saving money on your pack) - there a many commercially available freeze dried meals which are very light and you simply add boiling water to. Mountain house is the most common - http://www.amazon.com/MOUNTAIN-HOUSE-Beef-Stroganoff-4-80oz/dp/B0002YRNJK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398890892&sr=8-1&keywords=mountain+house

besides mountain house there is backpackers pantry (better IMO):
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=backpackers%20pantry&sprefix=backpacke%2Caps

and finally if you want to try some of the best I recommend packit gourmet:
http://www.packitgourmet.com/CookInBagMeals.html

clothes

wool is good because it keeps it's insulation warmth when wet. wool can be expensive though. If the weather is going to be good I'd recommend a couple quick drying shirts (which are pretty affordable)
http://www.amazon.com/Russell-Athletic-Sleeve-Dri-Power-3X-Large/dp/B00719Y8HO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1398891200&sr=8-3&keywords=quick+dry+shirt

and be prepared to own the worlds best pair of underwear - buy two pair wear one, wash one in a river:
http://www.amazon.com/ExOfficio-Give-N-Go-Boxer-Brief-Medium/dp/B001M0MN02/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398891283&sr=8-1&keywords=exofficio+boxer+briefs

tools

this is probably one of the first things that gets "over packed" what to you anticipate needing a tool for? On the hand saw if you will be collecting fire wood there is a very nice lightweight handsaw that is perfect for backpacking, the Sven Saw:
http://www.amazon.com/SVEN-SAW-Sven-Saw-21/dp/B002J900EQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398891413&sr=8-1&keywords=sven+saw

cookware

on cookware it all depends on what you'll be cooking. on a budget I'd recommend this cup:
http://www.amazon.com/GSI-Outdoors-Glacier-Stainless-Bottle/dp/B001LF3IB6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398891523&sr=8-1&keywords=GSI+cup

and this stove:
http://www.amazon.com/Ultralight-Backpacking-Canister-Ignition-silvery/dp/B00ENDRORM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398891563&sr=8-1&keywords=backpacking+stove

with that you'll be able to boil water for your freeze dried meals, make ramen, and you can also make hot drinks like tea.

1. crash pad
   
   
2. shoes
   
3. chalk
   
4. brushes
   
5. 6 changes of clothes pair of shorts, pair of pants, 2 t-shirts, light jacket, sweatshirt/sweater, 2 pairs of socks, 2 pairs of underwear. You should be wearing about half of this going out. Just air out the clothes you aren't wearing, even better is to wash them in a stream.
   
6. toiletries Bar of soap, toothpaste, toothbrush, toilet paper, deodorant if you must
   
7. harness
   
8. belay device
   
9. warm hat and gloves not sure what the weather will be like but I reserve these for when it may snow
   
10. lots of socks
    
11. lounging shoes, hiking shoes running shoes are good for hiking if your pack isn't heavy >30lbs
    
12. sleeping bag
    
13. tent
    
14. pillow use your clothes
    
15. few 1 bowl
    
16. good calorie dense snacks such as nuts, jerky, dried fruit.
    
17. spork tool
    
18. pocket knife
    
19. phone charger. Is this solar or what? You're probably better off picking up a couple spare extended batteries and charging them up before you go, turn your phone off for most of the trip.
    
20. backpack, is this an additional pack? Or what all of this is in?
    
21. rain jacket $1 poncho
    
22. camera
    
23. book
    
    My additions:
    
    
24. headlamp and extra batteries
    
25. finger nail clippers, ibuprofin, antihistamines, wetnaps, purification tabs, bug spray
    
26. Ultralight towel
    
27. Ground mat
    
28. Camping pot
    
29. Water bottle, like the platypus
    
30. Medical tape
    
31. Firestarting kit: cotton balls soaked in vasoline, lighter, flint/steel
    
32. Whiskey
    
33. Dehydrated food of some sort.
    
    Bonus:
    
    
34. Weather radio
    
35. Camping stove
    
36. Hammock instead of a tent
    
    
    All in all I think you should keep your pack under 30lbs, especially if you are going to be doing some hiking.

Use gloves? That's what I do. Single wall steel mug, a couple by GSI but then I found cheaper ones from walmart are the same thing... Half price, same weight and apparent quality. :(

Pack has worked well for me on small treks

This has been the best single item "mess kit" I've used so far

Pair the two with a 2L water bladder (fits in pack's water bladder pouch) and a wide mouthed nagalene bottle (the cup nestles on bottom!) And titanium (or non) spork and you're all set with bare essentials with good use.

Ample room for everything else. Buy a few straps and maybe a compression sack or two for extras (clothes...Etc)


Main issue might be the dimensions of your Chromebook. Managed to stash a 10 inch tablet and associated pieces, but that might be considerable smaller depending which make and model you've got.

This one works pretty well for me. It's about the size of a soccer ball and weighs about 3 pounds. Not the lightest thing in the world, but packs down pretty small and is good down to about 30 degrees.

Suisse Sport Adult Adventurer Mummy Ultra-Compactable Sleeping Bag (Right Zipper) Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001TR7QZA/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_SsFoxbXWBBBH9

Based on your choices, it seems like you're concerned about budget. This is a better sleeping bag for $40 or $50 depending on zipper side (bummer- I bought 2 when they were at $30. Even at $50 it's better than most bags twice as expensive: compresses smallish, weighs in under 3 lbs, and has a better temperature range than what you link.)

Here's a decent actual tent for $100- Eureka Apex 2 weighs under 6 lbs. The Solitaire is under 3 lbs if you want a solo tent.

Enjoy your trip, in terms of your gear, this is my experience:

• I like Kelty a lot, I have a Kelty Grand Mesa 2 (http://www.amazon.com/Kelty-Grand-Mesa-Tent-Person/dp/B004NWAPV0) and haven't had a problem in the 12 or so uses. It's light, and I haven't had any issues with not having a groundcloth.
  
• I'd check out this sleeping bag on Amazon if you're just getting started - it's cheap, TINY - it also comes with a stuff-sack, and quite effective. I've been camping in under 30F weather and it's kept me warm (with long-johns and pulling myself fully into the bag). Link: http://www.amazon.com/Suisse-Sport-Adventurer-Ultra-Compactable-Sleeping/dp/B001TR7QZA/ref=pd_sbs_sg_1
  
• Another note: Get a sleeping pad - it may seem like a small convenience, but it's important. I like mine, but I've seen a lot of people with these small yellow eggshell pads that fold up and my brother loves his.
  
• In terms of the bag - I've played with smaller versions of them and they're... interesting. Depending on the model it's somewhat difficult to pack or get things into because of how the structure of the bag prevents you from reaching into it. Some brands are better than others. Also, if you want something that's in just that awkward spot, you have to unzip the whole bag to get to it (the zipper wraps around the bag).
  
  Edit: For the bag - make sure you have nice spots for placing water on the outside. I have an older bag where the outside pockets get extremely tight when loaded, and it's frustrating when you have to stop to get water.
  
  Best of luck!

This is the pack I use.

This is the tent I use.

This is the sleeping bag I use.

Total weight for the sleeping bag and tent is 5.8 lbs. Total volume for both is 860 cubic inches. My pack has a sleeping bag compartment located at the bottom of the bag. If you look at the link I have posted in my OP there is a pic of my bag fully loaded - the tent is strapped to the outside just in front of the sleeping bag compartment. I also have my machete strapped there.

I just picked up two of these. Great summer bag. Guaranteed hypothermia below 48 degrees. http://www.amazon.com/Suisse-Sport-Adventurer-Ultra-Compactable-Sleeping/dp/B001TR7QZA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342233731&sr=8-1&keywords=mummy+bag

This ultra compact sleeping bag I can carry with me easily as I travel through Uganda. We just got told that our three month training will take place in multiple cities, so this would be very convenient - especially when I stay with my host family!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001TR7QZA/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?qid=1397427647&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70

Just under 3 pounds, I'm a fan of it but looking for something lighter.

Has anyone mentioned the Sven Saw to you?
http://www.amazon.com/SVEN-SAW-Sven-Saw-21/dp/B002J900EQ

Great set. Though if you plan on using that saw often you may want to replace it with a higher quality model. It's a great bang for your buck saw, but in my experience it does not stand up to continued use well. I took mine to work (I work for a tree company) to test it out and it lost a few teeth/started to dull after only 10-15 cuts.

Silky makes great pruning saws, though more expensive ($40~). That type of saw is mostly suited to cutting green wood, however. If you plan on using it mostly for dead stuff (firewood) it may be worth investing in something like a bowsaw that is designed with that purpose in mind.

Disclaimer: I have no personal experience with that particular bowsaw and cannot personally attest to it's quality. Though it does seem well regarded.

Edit: That knife seems nice, but from what I can tell it is not made of high carbon steel so it cannot be used for firestarting on it's own. It may be worth investing in something cheap like a Mora so that you may use it with a flint

I cut a considerable amount of wood for carving and I never found one of those pulls saws to be better than the worst bow saw I ever used. The knife saws are alright, but again the bow saw tops them.

I eventually went with this: https://www.amazon.com/SVEN-SAW-Sven-Saw-21/dp/B002J900EQ/ It has worked amazingly well.

• jumper cables
  
  
• tire plug kit with reamer and plug tool
  
  
• roadside flares
  
  
• extra jacket, hat and gloves
  
  
• spare shoes (depending on season, might be boots, sandals, sneaks, whatever)
  
  
• NOLs basecamp 1st aid kit equivalent
  
  
• leather work gloves
  
  
• Victorinox Rescue tool
  
  
• Safety glasses (tinted doubles as sunglasses)
  
  
• Sven Folding saw
  
  
• CS shovel
  
  
• camp hatchet
  
  
• roll toilet paper in gallon ziploc bag
  
  
• puck style axe sharpener
  
  
• extra garbage bags
  
  
• assorted zip ties
  
  
• 50' 3/8" rope
  
  
• rachet tiedowns
  
  
• assorted bungie cords
  
  
• 8'x 10' tarp (need to replace)
  
  
• wool army blanket
  
  
• waiter's friend corkscrew ( cuz the stinking expensive Vic Rescue tool doesn't have this important function!)
  
  

Sven saw all the way. Packs light and saws through anything.

Do it! I bought this 21" folding sev saw and it's fantastic. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002J900EQ I use it for yard work, backpacking everything it zip right through everything

They exist!

Funnel, you say? Female urinal

http://www.amazon.com/Lady-Elegance-EZ-Female-Urinal/dp/B004ANM6C8/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hpc_8

Sorry. Idk how to link things. :(

> What? Pepper pellets are fired from paintball style guns. They're larger than the typical concealed carry pistol.

Not necessarily. Some look like this, others like this.

I admit there's nothing visible in the videos that looks like either of those. I'm relying on police and witnesses quoted in the recent Times article for the info about pepper pellets.

> I can't actually make out anything in his hands except for an (admittedly really ugly) scarf.

About that scarf: http://static.seattletimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/trumpsupporterattack-1020x746.jpg

> From that video I'm not even sure it was yellow hat guy that fired the shot.

I have to admit I share your puzzlement at the apparent incompatibility between yellow hat guy's posture and the direction of fire. But I know for a 100% solid fact that YHG and his wife (the petite woman you see by his side most of the time) are the ones who turned themselves in to UWPD.

And I think it's possible you might be onto something. At the moment the shot is fired, YHG's wife is looking directly at the victim, and YHG is not. It seems reasonably plausible to me that YHG would claim to have fired in self-defense as a cover for her if, for example, she didn't have a CPL.

i carry this

I know this is talked out, but when I’m in a prohibited zone, I use a Kimber Pepperblaster II .

• I’ve been Sabred to carry for security work, and this stuff feels way worse to me.

• Pistol grip form factor uses existing training from point and shoot muscle memory for quick target acquisition.

• It’s a projectile gel so you don’t have to worry about blow back or wind which is a HUGE plus.

• 2X the shelf life

• No accidental discharge drips in your pocket

• Cheap enough to toss in an amnesty bin at a security checkpoint.

Yeah, if you're looking for pepper spray I recommend this pepper spray gun: Kimber PepperBlaster II. You can get them at Cabela's as well.

Entrenching shovel

not bad, but it isn't gonna really help you with many things like field skinning game...and clumsy for many other things.

When you said tactical shovel my first thought was the good ol' E-Tool. That thing is tough to open sometimes but I don't think I've ever seen someone say that theirs broke. But it doesn't fall into

>plenty of tools and is longer than 3 feet or 91.44 cm I'm tall and short shovels are awkward

It's the only one I've ever used so I can't offer any other first hand suggestion :(

Why not just get one of these and stuff it under a seat or something?

I'm like 3 miles away.

And I could use the money for my house fund. That would be very helpful for refurbishing all these 1920s houses I'm looking at...

Unfortunately the only thing I have in my car that can put you out of your misery is this.

You game?

You might take a look at these. No camera stud, but they're lightweight carbon fiber, adjustable, and cheap. They used to be carried at Costco but now I can only find them on amazon and the manufacturers website. http://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Carbon-Fiber-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

They're in store only and you need membership - but I think these are the poles: http://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

Same deal with the socks: http://www.amazon.com/Kirkland-Signature-Outdoor-Trail-Merino/dp/B00LFLOUI6

http://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI
Just finished 70 miles of the Ozark Trail. Really hilly and rocky. Bought these because I wasn't sure I wanted / needed hiking poles. They held up very well, and I ended up enjoying them very much.

http://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

You can call your local Costco YMMV

Yeah I'm thinking I might start with a pair of the cheapest trekking poles I can find to see if I like using them. From what I've read, I'm not sure I'll actually get much benefit out of using them since I row (leg sport) and I have good knees. There's a Chinese brand that has $40 carbon poles on Amazon that actually look like decent quality. Apparently they can sometimes be found cheaper at Costco.

I also saw the Big Agnes Fishhook UL 2 on steepandcheap for $184. It's heavier (58 oz. vs. 41 oz.) and bulkier, and I'm trying to decide if that is worth $100.

I checked out the HG Burrow 40 with overfill, and it configures a bit lighter than the EE Rev 30 w/ treated down (and is basically the same price). So HG is the clear winner for a treated down bag, but EE has a cheaper untreated option. Basically the question becomes "Do I want to spend $20 more for treated down?".

All the mora talk inspired me to hit up amazon.

www.amazon.com/dp/B009O01H0Y

aaaaaaaaaaand added to wishlist.

Hello fellow VI runner,

For what my opinion matters, I pretty much always carry a knife of some kind when I’m trail running. Partially for the occasional bit of trail/woodwork that needs doing but also for the protective factor from cougars, and because I am a knife knerd too. Most of the folks I run with also carry a blade albeit almost all folding. I can’t comment much on their exact preferences.

In winter I tend towards fixed blade, either a Mora bushcraft (cheapish ) or a compact machete depending if I know trees and branches are down from storms and the like.

In the summer months, I tend towards larger folding knives like a Spyderco PM2 or GB2. I use folders in the summer because it’s brighter and many more folks in the woods so the general risk is down and I don’t want to look like a sociopath running around with a sheathed knife when I bump into hikers and mountain bikers.

I appreciate the comment about the realism about taking on a cougar should it come to that. I hope we all stay safe out there while enjoying the trails.

If you're looking to do bushcraft tasks, it'd be better for you to get a knife, saw, and a hatchet so you have all the tools you need for manipulating wood and natural cordage. If you're trying to stay under $100, I'd recommend...

Knife - Mora Bushcraft Black

Saw - Bahco Laplander

Axe/Hatchet - Cold Steel Trail Boss

This will bring you in right at 100 dollars I think and give you a great starting set of tools for bush/field-craft.

There are other options in each of these categories that could combine to keep you under 100. I can list some of those, too, if these don't meet your needs. But, this will definitely do any bushcraft task you can think of.

If you do get the Cold Steel Trail Boss, take some time and thin the cheeks a bit and put a bit of a thinner convex edge on it. You'll be shocked at the results. Trust me.

For a cheap brilliant bushcraft knife:

http://www.amazon.com/Morakniv-Bushcraft-Tactical-4-3-Inch-Plastic/dp/B009O01H0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422126084&sr=8-1&keywords=mora+bushcraft

For a cheap brilliant bushcraft knife in wet conditions:

http://www.amazon.com/Morakniv-Bushcraft-Sandvik-Stainless-4-3-Inch/dp/B00B90H1T8/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1422126084&sr=8-4&keywords=mora+bushcraft


For a very cheap good bushcraft knife:

http://www.amazon.com/Morakniv-Companion-Outdoor-Military-4-1-Inch/dp/B004TNWD40/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422126275&sr=8-1&keywords=mora

For a very cheap good bushcraft knife in wet conditions:

http://www.amazon.com/Morakniv-Companion-Outdoor-Stainless-4-1-Inch/dp/B005EOJAKI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1422126315&sr=8-3&keywords=mora+orange

I have two Leatherman tools. I have used them for over a decade and have never had any trouble with them. They are easy to sharpen and they don't have a single dot of rust on them. Every tool is going to have its limits. I wouldn't use the knife on a Leatherman as a crow bar. I have never heard anyone complain about their Leatherman.

I have seen many people complain about the Sven Saw. It seems to be high quality and the design is very convenient. However, because of its triangular design, it actually can only cut smaller branches. Perhaps you aren't intending to cut a 6 inch limb. Just know that anything thicker than probably 3 inches is probably a big pain to cut with the Sven. Also, from what I understand, the Sven Saw only takes Sven Saw Blades, which is an added inconvenience and expense.

I have a basic cheap bow saw (one piece, non foldable) that I think works great. Bonus is that you can, if needed, use it with standard hack saw blades.

I don't currently own a Mora knife, but they do seem to be universally loved. Please note however that there are several Mora knives that range from $8 to $18 (both stainless and non-stainless). They don't seem to be substantially different from the one you mentioned that is $65.

This is the Mora Bushcraft Survival knife you mentioned ($65):

http://www.amazon.com/Mora-Bushcraft-Survival-Stainless-Steel/dp/B005CAPU80


Different Mora knives are either non-stainless carbon steel or stainless. Also, the thickness of the blade varies. You can get the thicker stainless steel knife in the cheaper model ($14):

http://www.amazon.com/Lime-Green-Mora-Companion-Knife/dp/B00BU9ATS8/ref=pd_sim_sg_12

I'm sure you can find one without a lime green handle. There seem to be a thousand models of Mora knives.

Another example, slightly thinner but still stainless ($11):

http://www.amazon.com/Mora-Stainless-Steel-Camo-Knife/dp/B005K994QM/ref=pd_sim_sg_11

This one is not stainless but the steel is even thicker than the one you mentioned ($40) if durability is your priority:

http://www.amazon.com/Morakniv-Bushcraft-Sandvik-Stainless-4-3-Inch/dp/B009O01H0Y/ref=pd_sim_sg_9

This last one is almost exactly the same as the knife you mentioned, except that it is $17 instead of $65:

http://www.amazon.com/Morakniv-Companion-Stainless-Military-4-1-Inch/dp/B004ZAIXSC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1376873143&sr=8-1&keywords=mora+knife+stainless+steel

Perhaps the price of the one you mentioned is inflated because of the sheath, but the reviews rate that sheath badly. They mention the clip disconnecting unexpectedly and also it does seem like the sharpening stone and the fire steel to be a bit of a gimmick. Fire steels are like $3 at Walmart and maybe $5 if you want the bigger military style model. The sharpening stone attached to the sheath seems to be toy like and not really functional.


Another one that seems to be the same as yours without the gimmicky sheath ($38):

http://www.amazon.com/Morakniv-Bushcraft-Outdoor-Stainless-4-3-Inch/dp/B003FYJU9A/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1376873143&sr=8-12&keywords=mora+knife+stainless+steel

There seems to be a huge variation of prices on Mora knives. The best ones seem to be the ones that are Stainless Steel and the thickness is around 0.1 or 0.098 inches.

I already own several high quality expensive knives, so I don't have a need to purchase the $65 range Mora knife. But the ones that are around $11 seem to be a great deal to use in situations where I might want to avoid damaging my expensive knife.

My favorite to purchase cheaply right now is:

http://www.amazon.com/Mora-Stainless-Steel-Camo-Knife/dp/B005K994QM/ref=pd_sim_sg_11

Because it has the hook at the front of the grip, which will help prevent your hands from slipping on to the cutting edge if you have to push into something. I think in survival situations, you hands may be tired, shaky, wet and dirty, which might make them prone to slipping. And of course, a survival situation is the absolute worst time to cut your hand.

Those are my 8 cents worth of contribution.

>Nothing is ever sold at the msrp unless it is enforced in some way. It'll probably cost about the same or a bit more than a Bushcraft Black.

I agree, for any readers interested in the numbers, the MSRP on the Bushcraft Black carbon steel is $79.99 and is currently going for $57 on Amazon. That's 29% off MSRP.

Chinese Military Shovel Emergency Tools WJQ-308 Ver 2012 (Amazon)

I've actually been thinking that my truck needs a shovel... Hmm, wonder if I can find a way to get my hands on one o' them chinese supersholvels

e: oh hey

Fuck that's a lot for a shovel though. I'd have to spend on shipping too...

e2: No shipping here :D

http://www.amazon.com/Chinese-Military-Shovel-Emergency-WJQ-308/dp/B00A2GLZS8

• Tent fan. I went pro my first year and won't go back. 60 bucks is worth it. Course, then I had to buy a deep cycle battery, but it lasted all week (and a half). Plus it was awesome for the one year I did exodus (11 hours....you know what year it was). We could avoid using the blowers in the car and instead just used the fan to keep us from dying.
  
  
• Fuck air mattresses. Fuck them in their little air hole. Foam is the way to be. I have a four inch full sized foam mattress that folds up, and yes, it's a bear to transport because of how much size it takes up, but I live on playa for three weeks. This thing is the ultimate luxury. I then place it on a "queen" sized Coleman cot. It's a full size cot that holds a queen size air mattress on it, and man it was loud. Much better with the foam. Seriously, sex on that thing was like sex on a megaphone.
  
  
• Someone else mentioned it, but a sheet covering your bed during the time you are not sleeping in it is wonderful. Do you know how many times a day you say, "oh shit, I forgot [something dumb] in my tent, better go in!" If you have a raised bed, especially, you'll more than likely lean in the door of your tent and put your hand down on the bed and bam playa bed.
  
  
• Someone also already said this (I think) but I take two sets of plastic drawers with me instead of bins for my smaller items. It's so much more fun to root around in a clear drawer than in an opaque bin. All my shit lives in those during the year, so if I randomly decide I need something from my burning man kit, I can grab it.

Her you go dude!
Coleman Queen Airbed Folding Cot with Side Tables and 4D Battery Pump https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AU6AVLW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_EZIYAbD07RPS5

I'm just going to share my tent and mattress because I love them. I dont think the tent is quite what youre looking for.



Wenzel Klondike Tent - 8 Person https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002PB2HPS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_DRQ7CbTC4VXEJ



Coleman 2000020270 Cot Queen https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AU6AVLW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_QTQ7CbKYRV0ZB




This mattress rocks! My partner (200lbs) and I (160lbs) sleep on this thing together with no problem. It has a battery powered air pump that is not attached to the mattress. Ive noticed the ones that come attached to the mattress seem to leak more. We just pump it up so it's super firm before bed and when we wake up it's a comfy slightly deflated. No feeling the cot underneath. I chose one with a cot underneath incase something happened to the mattress; my partner has a bad back and cant sleep on the floor. The mattress is tough though! Our German shepherd tried jumping on there a few times and it never got any holes. Very happy with it

Is this the one you are talking about? Do you just use it without the air mattress?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00AU6AVLW/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469842553&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=coleman+queen+airbed+cot&dpPl=1&dpID=41AyH1aznUL&ref=plSrch

This is what we have used for the last three years and it is great. The cot gets you up off the ground and it comes with a battery powered pump. If there were to be a problem with the mattress you would still have the cot to sleep on also.

I just bought and received from amazon the following: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AU6AVLW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Perks: getting off the floor will help with heat trapping, underneath can be used as storage, comfortable mattress that comes with it.

Cons: it is kinda heavy, but it collapses down to a decent size. Think of the collapsed size of an EZ Up tent.

I haven't set it up yet, however. I am planning on doing that tonight to make sure everything is kosher.

I have had great results with Cascade Mountain Tech and they are relatively cheap compared to the more expensive name brands. They collapse and when extended have never had an issue with any parts slipping.

​

https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Collapsible-Trekking/dp/B00EJP43FA/ref=sr_1_10?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1549362983&sr=1-10&keywords=trekking%2Bpoles&th=1

Here is the link:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00EJP43FA/ref=mp_s_a_1_2

OMG i started to look online for these cups and i found something even better. these must be made in Australia

or if you want a reusable.

or one in your favorite color

THE FEMALE URINAL!

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3.) No picnic would be complete without [a picnic basket] (http://www.amazon.com/Household-Essentials-Willow-Picnic-Service/dp/B000P4UUQK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1376949246&sr=8-1&keywords=picnic+basket).


4.) I desperately want to go to the [Aran Islands] (http://www.amazon.com/Muckross-Button-Cardigan-Medium-Heather/dp/B008B5VD2K/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1376949608&sr=8-12&keywords=aran+sweater).

5.) We had an awesome squiggly sprinkler like this one


6.) [This] (http://www.amazon.com/Lady-Elegance-EZ-Female-Urinal/dp/B004ANM6C8/ref=sr_1_79?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1376950560&sr=1-79&keywords=camping) because peeing in the woods is the worst.

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9.) I have had to throw away so many of these because I always forget I have it!


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Some of the best memories are made in flip flops.

Thanks for the fun contest!!

I want (seriously) a shewee!!! $4.29 it’s laughable but I’m in nature a lot and it would be highly convenient!


Jobar International JB5793 P EZ Travel Urinal for Women https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004ANM6C8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_mev3DbX0B6T3Y

make it so

Amazon Reviews

The only problem with pepper spray is that you will most likely get sprayed too. Not to mention most people panic when they are being attacked and can't get them unlocked in time.

These are a little bit better than the regular cans you see.

If I were her I would put in a call to the local sheriff. Most of the time they don't mind driving by every once in awhile. It wouldn't hurt if she would stay at a friends house for awhile.

Security Cameras and alarms are nice but look at the 15 min response time they have...I hate it say it but if it were someone that wanted to cause her harm them it would probably be too late by time police arrived.

I'm with you! Also if you aren't comfortable carrying here is the kimber nonlethal. It makes me feel safer.

I know I'm a bit late so you won't see this until you get back (I hope XD). But best of luck! Here's my item: http://www.amazon.com/Military-Original-E-Tool-Entrenching-Shovel/dp/B004SOPJG4/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3CKIQVW8MLIVH&coliid=I1HW25ENVN2G09.

Sorry, patriot. Should be eaten with one of these for added freedom:

http://www.amazon.com/Military-Original-E-Tool-Entrenching-Shovel/dp/B004SOPJG4/ref=sr_1_2?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1369456926&sr=1-2&keywords=folding+shovel

https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

Only $40 on amazon

Not sure if this is allowed on this sub but the Fizan Compact Trekking poles (~6oz each) are on massdrop right now for $59.99. They're worth checking out. I just purchased a pair a few weeks ago.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-fizan-compact


A cheaper and slightly heavier option are the Cascade Mountain Tech Carbon Cork (~8oz each) at $39.99
https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

They also sell them on Amazon if your local Costco doesn't carry them like mine doesn't. Still a good deal at $40.

These are a pair of poles I picked up as my first pair. They are generally recommended for beginners. You should pick up a pair, they are great.

Poles are life-changing. I know they seem dumb. I would likely still think they're silly if I didn't try them out of necessity after nursing an injury. But it makes hiking so. much. faster. and much more comfortable on the down. Black Diamond Alpine Carbon Cork poles are basically everyone's top pick, but they're expensive. If you're just hiking the PCT, I would go for something lighter, more like the Gossamer Gear LT4 (I have them and love them) - they're more fragile, but I've only ever broken 1 and it was definitely my fault, almost any pole would have suffered some damage. If you want a budget trekking pole to test whether you like it, I think these are what everyone recommends:

https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Twist-Lock/dp/B007E0ZBZI

I think you can get the same ones at costco?

Anyway, I haven't done any of the PCT in OR or WA, but I live in CA and have explored bits and pieces in Northern CA, Tahoe, and the Sierra. Tahoe is my home away from home if I can call it that, so I love the trail as it goes through there and have hiked and skied parts of it many times. The high Sierra sections should be on anyone's bucket list, but can be so highly trafficked that you can easily find better hikes just one valley or ridge over. I'm also a big fan of California's deserts, but they can be a bit overwhelming to new hikers. A wonderful place to explore in the spring.

I've never gone without a shelter, but have used a tarp and lightweight bug-proof bivy on trips there. Using a standard bivy is a pretty personal preference, but it's definitely an option. I think in OR and WA, I'd be more likely to bring a tent or tarp with a large living space underneath for prolonged rain. You can sleep in just a sleeping bag for weeks at a time in California, nights are usually pretty dry. You don't want to be without bug protection until later in the year.

I use an inflatable air mattress. If you can sleep comfortably on a foam mattress, I suggest getting the lightest one you can find and cutting it at the knees. Otherwise, NeoAir X Lite pads are my favorite.

Usually I'm just wishing for some food thing, or fizzy drinks or something.

I've gotten pretty good at bringing the right things for the conditions and checking everything in my pack when I get back to make sure that it was useful. I literally practice packing on smaller trips just so I don't wish for things and bring anything extra. I really can't think of any non-emergency items that don't get used at some point.

Also, I replaced the Salomon X Ultra 2 with the La Sportiva Ultra Raptor and am a huge fan. The sole is less boxy and has a really great rock plate, the rubber is softer and grippier for climbing things, it's more breathable, and it just fit my foot better. For long distances on trail, Altra shoes are very comfortable, breathable and light - worth checking them out too!

Check out /r/PacificCrestTrail - people are posting their photos/reports of their current thru hikes there

In spring the last couple years Costco has been stocking a set of Cascade Mountain carbon fiber poles. Work great, and I don't mind being rough on them.

Looks like they're on amazon now too:
http://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Carbon-Fiber-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

Buy some hiking poles man. They solve so much problems on ascent.

https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

If you do not have a Costco membership they are 30 dollars on amazon from Mountain Tech but with 12 dollars shipping.

Mora Bushcraft

No nonsense knife great for camping, cleaning fish/small game etc. 40 Dollars for a solid knife that'll hold up to most anything.

Ontario SP1

If you're more into the military style knives but don't have more than $60 to shell out for a KABAR, Ontario makes decent knives for the price.

Gerber BG Folder

Yes, it's a branded knife but that doesn't really matter. It's a decent knife for the price, especially if you're new to knives and you want to mess around with it without fear of breaking something expensive. Also, this particular one is a folding knife whereas the first two are fixed blade.

here are a few recommendations not on the list at a slightly lower price point:

Condor Tool & Knife, Crotalus Knife

Condor Tool & Knife, Hudson Bay

Condor Tool & Knife, Stratos

Glock Field Knife

Morakniv Bushcraft Black

Morakniv Bushcraft Pathfinder


Here are some other brands at similar price points to the ones you had listed ($100 - $200) SOG Knives, TOPS Knives, Bark River Knives

Mora Bushcraft black. I've seen them beaten like the proverbial rented mule and they held up excellent. Not expensive either - buy two with your budget.

http://www.amazon.com/Morakniv-Bushcraft-Tactical-4-3-Inch-Plastic/dp/B009O01H0Y

If it's not knife enough for you, try the Mora Bushcraft Black. Really, though, unless you're an absolute idiot with the knife, the one you got will last you a long time/lifetime.

I recently purchased a companion MG stainless for fishing, and it held up very well for all of the bushcraft knife tests I could throw at it.

The gerber prodigy is a very nice nice for the price:
http://smile.amazon.com/Gerber-Prodigy-Survival-Serrated-22-41121/dp/B000XH5H6W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1449118260&sr=8-1&keywords=gerber+prodigy
That would be your typical 'combat' knife, and the one I would recommend for this price range. My experience with it was stellar, but I never had a purpose for it so I sold mine.

My EDC knife is a SOG twitch 2:
http://smile.amazon.com/SOG-Specialty-Knives-TWI12-CP-2-65-Inch/dp/B0009JXR8Y/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1449118357&sr=8-4&keywords=sog+twitch
This is a small flip knife, the steel is great. I would highly recommend this.

Your other option would be a morakniv
http://smile.amazon.com/Morakniv-Bushcraft-Tactical-4-3-Inch-Plastic/dp/B009O01H0Y/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1449118465&sr=8-2&keywords=mora+tactical
I've never owned a mora, but I've heard great things about them. They make some cool bushcraft ones (linked) but their specialty is boot knives.

Overall I wouldn't worry too much about it, I'm a grunt and I've had tons of knives and multitools. A few such as the twitch passed the test of time, but far more often I had (foldeing) knives wear out due to grit, and so on. In the army I've been given and issued tons of knives, it's always nice getting a new one; they're not expected to be bifl.

thanks!

whats difference between bushcraft black and the survival? looks like its the same knife but $12 more for the sheath with firestarter and sharperner. worth it?

$36 - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BFI8TOA

vs

$24 - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009O01H0Y

On Amazon for $80.

Go Chinese. Only time I'll ever say those words and mean it.

About $80 on Amazon

Thanks, I've looked at a few cots, including stuff like this:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AU6AVLW

I have looked at canned food, especially soups etc, but as you said, it gets bulky. But at least with the boat I can store a good amount of of supplies on-board.

Never tried one but thought about picking this up:

Coleman 2000020270 Cot Queen https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AU6AVLW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_mayTCb17G7YY6

I'm actually thinking about going with one of these guys- https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AU6AVLW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&psc=1

I ordered one for this year, your back with thank you.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AU6AVLW/ref=s9_wish_gw_d59_g468_i3?ie=UTF8&colid=2DNJ5D6UDVOO&coliid=I1ZY7O7JFDV3P7&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=00EJ1C9XR44R9P4HJBGT&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=1970559082&pf_rd_i=desktop

For the most part no. People often reccoment <this> and <this> as cheap, easy, and lightweight options. You can buy these at costco sometimes too. I think costco sells them for $20. also here's a review for them

Investing in a nicer down bag, or even a more budget-friendly one like an Aegismax, will also allow you to ditch the compression sack for even more weight savings, as down can compress more easily than synthetic.

It seems like budget is a concern, but it's really worth it in many cases to spend a little bit more one time, rather than having to spend money twice on gear you're going to want to replace (while I totally understand that whatever gets you out there, works).

Take a look at these trekking poles. They're the budget-friendly crowd favorite. Spring for the cork handles if you can. The anti-shock of the pole you listed is a fairly useless feature in practice that adds weight.

And yes, all the dry bags cost money, and add weight. Trash compactor bags are inexpensive, lightweight, and do the trick. I also like to use them to pack out other peoples trash on the last day.

Here is a much lighter, relatively affordable bug net option.

Get the ones with flip lock and cork grip.

When I started backpacking it was in Boy Scouts 35 or so years ago- we carried everything. I am 35 years older now so I figure if I carry less I will have more fun.

Butterfly bandage and ace bandage are good ideas.

I am thinking about the trekking poles- I found some inexpensive ones on amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Carbon-Fiber-Trekking/dp/B00EJP43FA/ref=sr_1_2?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1413740260&sr=1-2&keywords=trekking+poles

I am trying go cheap- as I have already spent about $300 bucks on on backpack/sleeping bag/base layer/socks.

Not to be an evangelist, but trekking poles were such a revelation when I started using them. Before that, my hands would always get really swollen while I hiked.

If you want to try them, get the $40ish Skurka-recommended CMT ones.

But, as others have said, a lot of UL cottage companies will sell you carbon fiber poles for their tents if you don't use trekking poles.

THAT said, getting dual use out of trekking poles as your tent poles is one of the best ways to drop weight on a tent.

These should be the correct ones: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EJP43FA

Just got these delivered yesterday actually. They seem pretty solid but haven't had a chance to do much with them.

If you were holding off on the Cascade Mountain Tech ones due to price, they just went on sale on Amazon for around 40% off. They're now listed at $27, down from $45.
Link

Not sure where in Europe you are, but the Costco poles are available to buy online in the UK at least. They go by "Cascade Mountain" - here they are: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cascade-Mountain-Carbon-Fiber-Trekking/dp/B00EJP43FA

I got mine from Bay-Area Costco hit or miss if yours carries them. More expensive from amazon
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00EJP43FA/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1501342519&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Cascade+Mountain+Tech&dpPl=1&dpID=31PAa8UOM1L&ref=plSrch

If for some reason that doesn't work, Amazon has the Costo poles for just a few bucks more:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EJP43FA/ref=s9_acsd_al_bw_c_x_1_w

I mean you can tighten them by hand, but i like to overdo things.

Edit: Here are the poles. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EJP43FA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

There is not that much off a difference from a cheap back pack to that. You could get one of [these] (http://www.amazon.com/JanSport-Superbreak-Classic-Backpack-Black/dp/B0007QCQGI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370748055&sr=8-1&keywords=jansport) and it propably work just as well.

http://www.amazon.com/JanSport-Superbreak-Classic-Backpack-Black/dp/B0007QCQGI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1413972875&sr=8-2&keywords=backpacks

I have two of these one for whatever and one for school. THERE THE FRICKING BEST.

One in flourcesnt orange and the other in beez yellow.

But on the other hand, this backpack almost seems to have the same weirdness... so maybe it's right after all and a product of the lighting setup?

http://www.amazon.com/JanSport-Superbreak-Classic-Backpack-Black/dp/B0007QCQGI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1420869147&sr=8-2&keywords=backpack

I have a red Jansport that i got from Amazon 3 years ago and it's still holding up pretty damn well. Nothing wrong with it just dirty. I've seen them cheaper at Amazon than other places but you can always look around to make sure.

Another alternative for Herschel that I've read about is Everlane. I've only heard good things about them. If I were to get a new backpack, I'd go for one of these.

r/GoodValue, perhaps. However for $30 I'd just go on Amazon, find something with hundreds of reviews, then buy that... like so.

Jansport site

Jansport Amazon

I love these backpacks. I did break and rip mine to a point where it wasn't usable, but that's also because I had a larger school in high school so getting to my locker was kind of hard. Just carried all my books in one bag, which was like 4-6 text books at a time. It's understandable what happened.

Yeah, I recently just bought a JanSport Super Break with some added inserts that fit perfectly. It's absolutely perfect for safely carrying my dslr and other gear on big or small trips.

This is better than drinking Lionshead.

Burntdoor twotoaster... say it fast and you get better toe toaster. My guess.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0007ZF4PE/

Yep. I think these are the specific ones I've used in the past. They have an adhesive on one side which allows me to stick them to the top of my sock. Without the adhesive they just end up getting wedged into the end of your toe box.

Foot warmers and disposable. Thermal socks and/or good winter shoe liners or winter workboots.

You can also get heaters for the truck/car http://www.harborfreight.com/12v-auto-heater-defroster-with-light-60525.html

Lacking all of those options, you may want to see a doctor about poor circulation or other, possible medical issues.

Foot warmers are awesome since they have an adhesive on one side, allowing it to stay in place in your boot/glove/wherever. Also, what winter wish list is complete without a multicolored assortment of fuzzy socks!

Brace yourself.

I wear Toasti Toes! Just stick them on your socks.

Depende sa temperature. Kung naglalaro lang sa 0 C, yes. Otherwise, consider something yung may insulation.

However kung di ka naman masyado sa labas (and kung may car kayo), okay na siguro yun, just buy warm socks like yung Heat Holders or yung mga foot warmers which can provide heat up to 8 hours. Ang problem kasi with insulated boots is that it can be really warm pag nasa loob ka ng building, papawisan talaga paa mo, especially yung mga Sorel which are made for -20 C and below.

Though Timbs and Dr. Marten aren't really good at gripping slippery surfaces. For that, just buy cleats.

Source: I live in the Great White North.

To keep my feet warm, I wear DryMax thermal socks and use these.

http://www.amazon.com/HotHands-Toe-Warmers-40-pairs/dp/B0007ZF4PE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1420395306&sr=8-3&keywords=foot+warmers

1. Let your Mavic sit out in the cold (without a battery) for a few minutes (at least 5) before you pop in a warm battery and take off.
   
   This helps reduce condensation frost from forming in your barometer. The barometer is the most sensitive instrument in your Mavic to moisture.
   
   
2. Slap Adhesive toe warmers on the back of your phone or tablet to extend its battery life in the cold. Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0007ZF4PE/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1485609578&sr=8-6&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=Little+Hotties+Adhesive+Toe+Warmers
   
   
3. The batteries warm themselves up in flight, but in extreme cold (-5 or colder) the same adhesive toe warmers could be used on the Mavic Battery. They don't add much weight. Disclaimer: I haven't tested this on the Mavic, but we've used this trick for years on DIY built drones with "naked lipos" (a lipo without a plastic case).

Chemical heating packs above the toes solved this issue for me.

Amazon sells giant boxes of them. They glue in place onto your sock and don't cause any problems. Totally saved my winter riding.

$2500? Fuck, I guess it's time for a road trip~!

I'm gonna grab my car, grab my best friend, a dog, and this here book and drive across Canada. I'll stop at every tourist attraction, small town, and big city in Canada until that $2500 is done and gone. Where will I stay? I'll know when it gets dark and there's a hotel or motel in sight. Worst comes to worst, we'll always have sleeping bags. I suppose the vacation will end when I have learned the guitar and made it to Prince Edward Island.

What do you think of a cheap 0 deg F bag like this: https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-North-Adult-Mummy-Sleeping/dp/B0009PUSO4/ - it's $40 - and well reviewed/endorsed by Amazon - which is 1/10th the cost of a custom enlightened equipment quilt bag (which I customized to $400).

I would like a bag around 0-10 deg for harsher winters hitting lows of 0-15 deg F but average temp in winter would be in the 20-30s F.

Is the sleeping quilt overkill at $200-400 if all you're doing is sleeping in the Prius?

That looks legit. The sleeping #1 OP posted looks horrendous.

I would suggest getting a good sleeping bag brand [like this Coleman] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009PUSO4).

15F rated sleeping bag - only $29 for the next 3 hours:

https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-North-Adult-Mummy-Sleeping/dp/B0009PUSO4/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1481517015&sr=8-4&keywords=0f+sleeping+bag

Of course you can find the 0F one or even lower, but those bags are useless 99% of the time.

You and a hand warmer in a reflective bivvy bag, in a synthetic sleeping bag, under a cheap down quilt. You can probably put it together for near or under $100 (these links total $114.66), and you have options to adjust how warm you need it to be, so it works winter and summer.

I used this setup (with a different synthetic bag that was on sale at the time) for some very cold nights. The heat reflective bivvy is a little uncomfortable sometimes, but it makes things so much warmer (and it’s much more comfortable than a Mylar space blanket). I now have better down quilts and no sleeping bag at all. Synthetic bags often provide better insulation, but are also bulkier and heavier than down. I needed smaller, lighter insulation. I also now use a USB hand warmer instead. Never tried hot water in a Nalgene bottle. 🤷🏼‍♂️

This setup’s warm enough that I didn’t need to wear a lot of layers, just my base layer, wools socks, and a down jacket.

Only gets as low as low-sixties in the summer here and I'm going in a few weeks. Not too sure if I'll camp much in the winter (or at all, really). I want to get back into it, but unsure of how much time I can invest into camping again. Not sure if I should get this, or just go cheap and get a cheap synthetic Coleman. Generic question, but thoughts?


Realistically, I would probably only need something that will be fine in warm-weather camping. In the spring, it can get as low as 40 in the mornings, and in the summers, it's around 60.

I like down because of how lightweight and long-lasting it is, but it does get humid in the summers here. And I probably would only take the bag out 1-2 times per year.

Trangia Burner

These suckers are indestructible and hold the fuel you don't use in the stove without it evaporating.

I like these a bit better for this. You can build one out of a soda can too. My thought here is that you can run it on bottles of yellow HEET (fuel line defroster) which you can get at any gas station, hardware store or grocery store. For someone living on the streets it's a bit easier to get a hold of than a canister of fuel for a stove.

You can also buy alcohol stoves that are pre-made, and they’re cheaper to get fuel for and you don’t end up carrying an empty fuel canister around.


amazon

trail designs

What about a Trangia stove?

You could even make a coke can stove. I have one and it works well. The only criticisms I have of it is that you have to guess how much alcohol to use in it and there's no way to control the temperature. Minor complaints though, especially since it's made from two recycled coke cans.

They use methylated spirits. Pretty easy to use. Really lightweight, even with the fuel.

> Fancy Feast stove

That's what Andrew Skurka uses. He says that he has tried various other builds, but none of them saved him enough fuel (vs the FF stove) to be worth the bother.

Personally, I like my Trangia, but I'm not an ultra-lighter. It's still pretty damn light, though, and very strong, since it's made of brass.

2. Keep all of your valuables (electronics, passport, wallet, etc.) in an easy-to-remove bag. I use a small ulock and try to lock my frame to something and then run a small cable lock through the handles of panniers. My wheels have anti-theft bolts on them, so they're not easy to steal. Keep in mind that most theaves are opportunists and want something quick and easy--so don't make your bike quick and easy. For grocery stores: some stores will let you roll your bike into the entrance area or leave it leaning near the cash register.
   
   
3. Personally, I like a warm meal / coffee especially when the weather is wet. If you're on the fence, I'd suggest buying a Trangia alcohol stove ($20!) and you can always ditch it if you're not using it. I use it in conjunction with the Vargo Hexagon Wood Stove but you can get a smaller/lighter pot holder. The stove is light, runs silently and the fuel is cheap and easy to find.
   
   
4. This time of year is a good time to get apparel on sale. Check out brands like Pearl Izumi or the house-brand at Mountain Equipment Co-op (if you're Canadian.) For touring you can usually skip a proper jersey and instead do a merino t-shirt, you don't really need the pockets since you've got bags with you.

Actually, a wide-mouth stainless steel bottle is more practical. It can serve as a drinking container as well as something to boil water with. You can get a fish mouth spreader to hang it over a fire and a cup/pot that will "nest" over it. Or you can rig up something to hold up the bottle so you can run an alcohol stove under it.

Here's a pre-assembled bottle cooking kit:

http://www.thepathfinderstore.com/the-ultimate-bottle-cooking-set-gen2/

Here's the most widely used alcohol stove (you can make your own too, if you've good the tools handy, but if you don't have the tools it's smarter to just buy one):

http://www.amazon.com/Trangia-Spirit-Burner-with-Screwcap/dp/B000AR7970

https://www.amazon.com/MSR-Liquid-Fuel-Bottle-30-Ounce/dp/B0015I0GE6/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1540218512&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=white+fuel+bottle&dpPl=1&dpID=41xkfbeRMIL&ref=plSrch something like this for the fuel. And I seen alot of stoves just cliped to the outside of the pace with a carabiner

Personally, I just grabbed a 30 Oz MSR bottle. I would be actively searching for stations with ~25 miles left in my tank, and I figured this would be enough to limp me along if I ever cut it way too close. It's also very easy to pack.

You have clearly planned your trip much more than I did, considering I decided about 30 minutes before I left with no clear route, so I think it would be pretty easy to figure out available gas stations given your route.

I knew if it didn't work this time I was going to be stranded, but that was because I was specifically running it to reserve. Normally I fill up after 100 miles just to be on the safe side. For now, I think I'm going to order to MSR bottles and mount them inside a couple of waterproof manual canisters that will fit 30oz MSRs.

MSR bottles: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015I0GE6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Containers: http://www.agrisupply.com/manual-canister-large-with-neoprene-seal/p/67670/

Alright here we go...now what I got, I tried to price compare and review compare. Some stuff may be better elsewhere but it's what I went with regardless.

There are some products that I already have from camping so I didn't feel the need to double up. I also plan on supplementing the packs with more food and obviously water as well as medicine, change of clothes and a few other things. I also plan on adding a few things to the medkit, more aspirin, some more realistic materials as well. So all in all I felt this was a pretty solid starter survival kit for most situations. Just something to grab for a few days if shit hits the fan. It's going in my truck where some other camping gear already is (Axe, shovel, wd-40, lighters, mace, knives)

Only product I would buy differently would be the backpack. I didn't realize it ships from China, I'd only buy somewhere else due to the 1 month shipping time. (I didn't catch that initially) there's some decent similarly priced backpacks available elsewhere that will be at your door within a few days.


$13 - S.O.S. Rations Emergency 3600 Calorie Food Bar - 2 Pack - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AFOF2DG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

$3 SE 6-in-1 Survival Whistle http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001C31AGC/ref=oh_details_o00_s01_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

$6 ER Emergency Ready Thermal Mylar Blankets, Pack of 4 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008DEYGJQ/ref=oh_details_o00_s01_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

$40 Ambient Weather Emergency Solar Hand Crank AM/FM/NOAA Digital Radio, Flashlight, Cell Phone Charger http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B9HRJI4/ref=oh_details_o00_s02_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

$8 Potable Aqua Water Treatment Tablets http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001949TKS/ref=oh_details_o00_s02_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

$9 8' X 10' Blue Multi-Purpose 6-mil Waterproof Poly Tarp Cover 8x10 Tent Shelter Camping Tarpaulin by Grizzly Tarps http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0053QUAAG/ref=oh_details_o00_s02_i02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

$6 Survivor HK-106320 Outdoor Fixed Blade Knife 7 Overall WITH FIRE STARTER http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00178CS4K/ref=oh_details_o00_s02_i03?ie=UTF8&psc=1

$9 5038-3 PK Fix-It DUCTape 1.87-Inches x 60-Yards, 7-Mil, 3-Pack http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002KQ6682/ref=oh_details_o00_s02_i04?ie=UTF8&psc=1

$40 Outt(TM) Sport Outdoor Military Rucksacks Compact Assault Pack Camping Hiking Trekking Bag http://www.amazon.com/Outdoor-Military-Rucksacks-Compact-Trekking/dp/B00HWR37KE/ref=sr_1_4?m=A15PKGU8PFZ6QO&s=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1396882222&sr=1-4&keywords=Sport+Outdoor+Military+Rucksacks+Compact+Assault+Pack+Camping+Hiking+Trekking+Bag

$32 Fully Stocked MOLLE Tactical Trauma Kit First Aid Pouch http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TL2NX4/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

$5 550lbs. Military Paracord Type III Rope 100' Foliage Green http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001B6LFWE/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Total price for everything: $171 Probably spend another 30 or less on food/water/extras

Random!

iodine tablets

http://www.amazon.com/Potable-Aqua-Water-Treatment-Tablets/dp/B001949TKS

Did this when spending a week hiking/camping in Kentucky. We'd just fill up our water bottle in the river/stream and then throw in a couple tabs. Made the water taste a little funny, but noone in our group suffered from any diarrhea or vomiting the entire trip.

If you have the time/tools, boiling is probably the way to go.

Here is all you need to not worry, pal!

Firearm!

Ammunition

Rations

For water!

For Shelter!

Hatchet!

Fire!

More Fire!

I was looking at these for water treatment maybe instead of the sawyer, just to save some money
Potable Aqua Water Purification Tablets (50 Tablets) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001949TKS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_-MttzbVDZ4CZQ

OK, thanks for the advice. I'm definitely going to add the 550 cord. Pepper spray is another good defensive option that isn't banned in the People's Republic of Chicago. You've also sold me on the stainless steel canteen, so consider that and some water purification tablets added, too.

There are many {#1, #2, #3} cheap water purification tablets that when paired with propel mix-ins provide a great and clean taste. That is if you're worried about the quality/taste of the water from a tap.

I've found that these work great on a trip, they are less expensive (long run) than bottled water.

Aqua! (You know, the band that sang the Barbie song? .."Im a barbie girl, in a barbie woooooooorld, dressed in plastic, its fantastic!" ... i can't believe i just sang that.. oye... lol

Potable Aqua Water Treatment Tablets

You can also get an Esbit version. They're nice because they can hold a fair bit of fuel in a pretty small package. It comes with a screw top and an O-ring, so you can fill it with fuel, put it out, and seal it back up with no wasted fuel. They're also lightweight, and you can use over the counter rubbing alcohol for fuel - although the BTUs on that sort of stuff might be inferior to other fuels. I don't know.

The only thing I WILL say about them, though, is that I'd recommend keeping it relatively warm in colder weather. I've found that my alcohol stove simply refuses to start if its too cold, and so the last time I went out I kept it in my sleeping bag with me while I slept, and it fired up without much trouble in the morning.

Also would recommend some sort of windscreen, just in case. Esbit does also make another UL stove that uses their fuel tablets, which the alcohol stove can fit into (but getting it lit requires a little extra effort either getting it into the slots, or lighting it while its in the slots).

Of course, there's also always these guys also by Esbit, which you can store the fuel cells in when its folded. The only thing I don't like about them (which take with a giant grain of salt, because I'm 100% an amateur to all of this) is that you're limited with the fuel cell and the length of burn. You don't end up wasting any excess fuel with the alcohol stove. Also, you do get the added benefit, if you're using rubbing alcohol for fuel, of having an antiseptic available in a pinch.

Finally, an option to keep the whole package on the small end, you have these little guys as pot stands. They work great to keep my pot elevated off the stove, but I will say that they do seem to get in the way of the burn a bit and inhibit some of the airflow, but not enough to be a huge issue. They fit into the Esbit alcohol stove perfectly, but again, you might be better off with something that lifts the pot up a bit more for a better burn. I think they're designed to be used with the their own brand of alcohol stove, though, so that's probably why they don't work great.

I have this mini, portable stove on my WL.

So you could do the chopping, and I could do the cooking?

Here is from the budget backpacker:

Stove: esbit is 6.3 oz with 6 fuel cubes (weight includes fuel) for <$11.00: http://www.amazon.com/Esbit-Ultralight-Folding-Pocket-Tablets/dp/B001C1UGVO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462135828&sr=8-1&keywords=esbit+stove

Pot: GSI stainless weighs 5 oz for <$10.50 http://www.amazon.com/GSI-Outdoors-Glacier-Stainless-Bottle/dp/B001LF3IB6/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1453225574&sr=8-6&keywords=backpacking+pot

Utensil: I use a standard aluminum fork and spoon because they weigh less than an ounce each, but you can also look at this:

Toaks titanium spork weighs 0.6 oz for <$9.00 http://www.amazon.com/TOAKS-SLV-01-Titanium-Spork/dp/B009AO19MK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462136083&sr=8-1&keywords=toaks+titanium+spork

Once again, not 100% ultralight, but pretty light weight and a good starting place for a beginner.

Anybody can understand that. It wasn't what I said. Read what I actually wrote. I am speaking specifically about THIS POST. OP in THIS POST spent at least $10 on these supplies. Yes, many people have these things and can make one for cheap or free even. No one is arguing that. What I was saying is that even if you can build one of these for $1-2 and another $1-2 on fuel, they are still half way to the cost of a real lightweight stove that will work in all conditions and last a long time and actually work repeatedly and as expected.

For a fun/novel thing to do, there is nothing wrong with it. If you would rather have this than even an esbit tablet (which would still cost less than this stove + fuel and be lighter and not make a mess and work in almost all conditions), then that is your choice. I wouldn't and I have made many makeshift stoves and gear of all sorts. Sometimes it makes sense and sometimes it doesn't. This is onetime that it is a false economy.

Edit: For anyone that wants to see what I am talking about, at even a bit of a high price on Amazon you can get six Esbit tabs and the stove for $10, which is about $1 per use and not far off what an alcohol stove will cost to run. One tab also will actually boil water in most circumstances in 8 minutes or less: https://www.amazon.com/Esbit-Ultralight-Folding-Pocket-Tablets/dp/B001C1UGVO/

Usually I eat at the camp site or close to it. But in case I want a cup of tea/coffee I carry an [Esbit Stove] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001C1UGVO/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1481712503&sr=8-2&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=Esbit&dpPl=1&dpID=31ZdIVkJyJL&ref=plSrch)

It packs small, costs nearly nothing and is capable to heat an occasional can of food as well

Edit: formatting

How long would one of those little 8ounce gas cans last for?

Also, whats the benefit to gas cans vs solid fuel like this

Then go with the MSR Whisperlite that /u/gcranston recommends. However, it doesn't use ISO-Butane as suggested. It uses white gas. It is very easy to get a hold of here in the US. I have had one for almost 20 years and it still works wonderfully.

You have to purchase the bottle separately, but they aren't that expensive. Just make sure that you use a windscreen. It improves the cooking time significantly. You can easily make one.

I've used the Esbit (http://amzn.com/B001C1UGVO) stoves before too and they work. They don't work super fast, but if you are cooking something for one, you can't really get any cheaper. If you are only cooking for yourself or just heating things up, these little stoves work well. Every time I have used one, I have had people tell me that it will never work, how silly I look with them and how cheap I am, but they are small and cheap. Again, you need a windscreen for these to work.

Ok one thing about knives is that they are tools and just like tools you get what you pay for. I camp and hunt quite a bit and these two will be all you need. The BK9 for chopping, cutting, hacking, spliting, hammering, and all other sorts of camping needs. Use the Remora if you need to skin something or do some fine wood work such as notch making or anything else of the sort.

http://www.amazon.com/Ka-Bar-Becker-BK9-Combat-Bowie/dp/B001IPKL7I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398719025&sr=8-1&keywords=bk-9

I looked at that, but it's only an inch longer than his current one. I might consider upping the budget and getting the BK9 because is has the 1095 steel. However the Big Brother is cheaper and also has the better steal. But does he need an over-sized marine fighting knife for processing deer? I don't know. I think a blade over 6" is impractical for meat processing, but that's what he wants.

Then the Ka-Bar/Becker BK9 Combat Bowie sounds right up your alley.

A Spyderco Military
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/SP36GPE/spyderco-c36gpe-military-folding-knife-s30v-satin-plain-blade-black-g10-handles

A Benchmade Contego
https://www.knifeworks.com/best-selling/benchmade-contego-810-1401-3-9-in-m390-stainless-blade-plain-edge.html

A Varusteleka Terava Skrama
https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/terava-skrama-carbon-steel/30189?gclid=CjwKCAjw6vvoBRBtEiwAZq-T1d5uNsQfQiYZZF3_IMTAYXt95L0MML6Hgc7pwsw6j4rTbLhIYC2EpxoCTT4QAvD_BwE

A Varusteleka Terava Jaakaripuukko
https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/terava-jaakaripuukko-carbon-steel/56524

Spyderco Sprig
http://www.nationalknives.com/spyderco-sprig-fb37ggrp-fixed-blade-knife-4-25-plain-edge-blade-forest-green-g-10-handle-sheath/

Spyderco Southfork
Out of production, but one of my favorite models. Unfortunately they are pricey even used.

Ontario Rat I
https://www.bladehq.com/item--Ontario-RAT-Model-1-Liner-Lock--36924

Becker BK9
https://www.amazon.com/Ka-Bar-Becker-Combat-Bowie-Fixed/dp/B001IPKL7I

Becker BK5
Out of production, but one of my favorite models. Unfortunately they are pricey even used.

Depends on what you want to use it for.

The Canopy is thicker out to the tip, giving it more heft for chopping. It is, IMO, the better tool of the two. The Warrior is designed more as a fighter, and so has a lighter, more manoeuvrable (and more fragile) tip. The false edge on the spine isn't really ideal for work, but it'll still get the job done. Both are made from 8Cr13MoV, which is a pretty decent but not exceptional stainless. Overall, decent knives and reasonably priced at $40-50 (Amazon). Both are full tang AFAIK and so should be quite tough.

If you can afford to stretch to around $70, you might want to take a look at the Ka-Bar Becker BK9. Similar size (9 inch blade), full tang, thicker stock (.250 inches IIRC), and significantly better steel (1095). 1095 is a carbon steel, which means you have to be a little be more careful to avoid rust compared to 8Cr13MoV, but it's also quite a bit tougher.

If you mostly intend on doing more 'knife' tasks (slicing, cutting thin limbs, brush), the Canopy might be a slightly better choice, being the cheaper and lighter option. If you want a real chopper, I'd go with the Becker.

Thirstyone has the cons of that blade covered, I think. So heres some other options.

You could go with a BK2 or a BK7 over this. The BK9 is an option but it's on the large side.

Straying away from Ka-bar You could go with an ESEE Izula.

I have many kinds of knives, lots of "tactical" knives and many purely utilitarian knives, one or 2 survival knives. edit: [here is old pic of collection] (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-yOMApkrgJ-w/UPHWyQ5F7AI/AAAAAAAAAbQ/4a9gnq5rzMA/s640/2013-01-12%252014.33.15.jpg) I got the kershaw cryo and skyline and crkt m21 since then.

I have not but I have heard good things of them

A knife you have. and a strong knife with a good steel whether soft or hard (which ever you like better and is better for style of knife). there is a lot that goes into a survival knife so I will give some examples, [1] (http://www.amazon.com/Ontario-8628-RTAK-Knife-Green/dp/B001DZV3BG/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1375494728&sr=8-10&keywords=esee+6) [2] (http://www.amazon.com/Ka-Bar-Becker-BK9-Combat-Bowie/dp/B001IPKL7I/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1375494759&sr=8-5&keywords=becker+knife) [3] (http://www.amazon.com/Cold-Steel-Master-Kraton-Handle/dp/B001PYUL0O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1375494784&sr=8-1&keywords=cold+steel+trailmaster) [4] (http://www.amazon.com/Cold-Steel-Black-Kraton-Handle/dp/B0030DBGXY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1375494815&sr=8-2&keywords=cold+steel+srk).

I dont know much about leatherman to be honest. but for me I would go with the surge, but the super tool 300 looks much stronger and more heavy duty.

As for warmth, best easy solution I've found is to take a regular bed comforter (Queen) and lay it into the hammock. Pull the edges over the sides of the hammock (you're inside, so no worry about dragging the dirt) so that you have about 2 feet on each side, with the rest tucked into the middle. Sit into the hammock, lie back, and put a pillow behind your head (and one under your knees if you find your legs hyper-extend during sleep sometimes, causing slight leg discomfort). Then, cover yourself with a poncho liner -shop around for a good deal- which keeps you from getting too hot or cold... the perfect hammock companion. Finally, cover yourself with the sides of the comforter hanging over the sides, kind of like a burrito. For really cold nights, I will add a fleece blanket from your favorite team or show before the poncho liner. For really hot temps, I throw a battery fan on the tarp line above my chest, and it keeps the poncho liner cool and fills the hammock with a cocoon of cool air.

I have used this setup indoors and outdoors, and it has kept me warm and comfy in weather down to 10 degrees... and I sleep in nothing but boxers outside (just add a ski mask if outdoors that cold to keep the nose from freezing). The comforter acts like an underquilt, so the cold breeze on the hammock is not noticeable, and the whole setup is a fraction of the cost my friends have spent for much more uncomfortable nights of sleep.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001L0VX2W/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3M8UP38U6FF&coliid=I2G7YGLJGH6EMZ

Can you tell me about the HUMVEEs? I thought they can't be sold to the GP. Poncho Linershttp://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Military-Weather-Poncho-Blanket/dp/B001L0VX2W

MARPAT

Old BDU

You probably can find in a surplus store too.

This one

I'm not sure if it is true mil-spec or military surplus, but it sure is comfy.

I use my MSR PR with the GSI Cup. Its straight forward, inexpensive and fits to the bottom of your Nalgene water bottle.

Day One I'll have about 35 lbs (15.45 kg) of weight. This is my first time so there are probably several items in there I'll never take with me again, but I'd like to try 'em out once; I also have a shit sleeping bag that desperately needs upgraded. If you want specs, just ask and I'll happily share my spreadsheet!

Edit: The List

The Gear

• Jansport Katahdin 50L
  
• Northstar Tactical Operations Sleeping Bag
  
• Hennessy Explorer Deluxe w/ Hex Fly, Snakeskin, HH2O
  
• New Balance Hiking Boots
  
• Vibram Spyridons
  
• Playpus Big Zip Bladder, 3L
  
• Sawyer 3-Way Inline Water Filter
  
• Rain Suit
  
• Dr. Bronner's Peppermint Soap
  
• All Terrain Herbal Armor Bug Spray
  
• Wigwam Merino Wool Socks x2 pair
  
• GSI Outdoors Glacier Stainless Pot/Cup
  
• Outdoor Products Dry Sacks
  
• Energizer 3-LED Headlamp
  
• Lifeline 85-Piece First Aid Kit
  
• 100', 550lb Paracord
  
• Extra Rope
  
• Heavy Duty Trash Bag (as liner; 2 extra)
  
• Couple Books: The Tolkien Reader, J.R.R. Tolkien and Smith of Wootton Major and Farmer Giles of Ham, J.R.R. Tolkien
  
• Cell Phone
  
• Camera
  
• Flashlight
  
• Map
  
• Watertight, hard-shelled container (for electronics/map)
  
• Pocket Knife
  
• Fixed-Blade Knife
  
• Toilet Paper
  
• Stove & Fuel
  
• Hand Sanitizer
  
• Extra pair of underpants
  
• Extra shirt
  
• Several scattered lighters
  
• 2L of water (possibly less depending on availability of water)
  
• Plastic Water bottle (for mixes)
  
• Wash Cloth
  
  The Food
  
  
• Chocolate Chip and Coffee Biscotti (too delicious not to bring)
  
• Backpacker's Pantry, Beans and Rice
  
• Mountain House, Rice and Chicken
  
• Ramen Noodles
  
• Trail Mix
  
• Peanuts
  
• Country Time Lemonade Packets
  
• Snickers Bars
  
• Folgers Instant Coffee
  
• Chocolate Covered Raisins
  
• Tuna Packets
  
• Wraps
  
• Protein Bars
  
• Peanut Butter Crackers
  
• Gushers
  
• Mac & Cheese
  
• Summer Sausage
  
• Nutri-Grain Bars
  
• Hot Cocoa

Pot and Nalgene

Third party, you can find it here...

[GSI Outdoors](http://www.GSI.com/ Outdoors Glacier Stainless Bottle Cup/Pot https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001LF3IB6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_sxRTAbWMVKP5S)

Sure, no problem!

My usual list...

On the rear rack, generally packed in a waterproof rollbag:

• Hammock Tent -- Hennesey Expedition A-Sym
  
  
• Quick-disconnect rope clips like this. Note that I'm light -- these won't hold you safely if you're over 200lbs..
  
  
• Sleeping bag -- I use a Suisse Sport because it was light and cheap
  
  
• mess kit, any collapsible aluminum one will do...
  
  
  I strap a waterproof backpack to the rollbag, containing:
  
  
• change of clothes per day (tshirt, jeans, underwear, socks)
  
  
• bodywash
  
  
• deodorant
  
  
• toothbrush
  
  
• small towel (a sham-wow type of towel works really well)
  
  
• food (instant noodles, crackers, kippers, trail mix, energy bars, etc... )
  
  
• dog's leash, poobags, kibble, dog hoodie (in case she gets cold)
  
  
• kindle (for reading things when I get settled for the night)
  
  
  Under the seat,
  
  
• hoodie
  
  
• riding jacket (if not wearing)
  
  
• riding gloves (if not wearing)
  
  
• rain suit (if not wearing)
  
  
• extra water
  
  
• any miscellaneous that didn't fit elsewhere...
  
  
  On the tunnel bag:
  
  
• dog harness
  
  
• dog (NOTE: dog is optional, but recommended)
  
  
  In the tunnel bag:
  
  
• Screwdriver
  
  
• 2x adjustable wrenches
  
  
• vice grip
  
  
• tire patch kit
  
  
• tire iron
  
  
• knife
  
  
• backpacking stove
  
  
• gas for above
  
  
• duct tape
  
  
• LED flashlight
  
  
• small first aid kit w/ insect repellent
  
  
• camelbak bladder for drinking
  
  
  I always bring more than that, but that's my bare minimum. On longer trips or trips that go through the night, I'll pack a gas can in case I have to go a couple of hundred miles between fill-ups.
  
  EDIT: OH GOD FORMATTING HOW DO I REDDIT WHAT IS THIS I DONT EVEN

Wanted to chime in and say, I'd love to see your plans, too, if you care to share with the rest of us! I thought picking up a grand trunk for $17 the other day was good (Amazon sale -- now $20), but you're putting me to shame! Paired with this compact and quite warm sleeping bag, you're off to the races.

Planning on camping for 1-2 nights next weekend. In this photo is only my sleeping bag and a first aid kit in my new 46L. Sharing a tent with my bf, and will definitely need to bring a jacket and warm clothes but am possibly planning on putting my jacket in the outer pocket of the pack? I will strap my pad to the bottom.

I'd like to keep this size pack since it's carry-on size for when I travel too. Since I can't really afford another expensive bag at the moment I was considering two day shipping this guy:
https://www.amazon.com/Suisse-Sport-Adventurer-Ultra-Compactable-Sleeping/dp/B001TR7QZA/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1427071182&sr=1-1&keywords=sleeping+bags+backpacking


Thoughts? Should I just suck it up and get a bigger pack or a smaller bag? My bf has a bigger pack I usually borrow so it's not really an emergency, but it would be nice to use my nice new one!


PS- I don't have any of the other items I'd be packing with me at the moment (at my parents house) which is why I ask instead of just trying!

I have this one and have had no problems with the couple times I've used it. Its about 3 pounds and only costs $40. If you have a good sleeping pad and where warm clothes to sleep, I'm sure you'd be fine in 30 degree weather.

It's nothing fancy, but I absolutely LOVE this sleeping bag. It packs to about the size of a milk jug, and it's still pretty warm. I've taken it on countless trips, and it's still going strong.

Dude, you won't find a better bag for your money than this one. I've had mine since it was $25 on Amazon (three years ago now ?) and all my friends with their North Faces and Marmots aren't any more comfortable at least down to 30. (Haven't been out much lower than that.)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001CFSNBK/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I use this for underquilt, because it's flat rectangle when rolled out which makes it easier to go under/half-around a hammock.

That would be a good example of the type of sleeping bag you want in terms of dimensions and shape (not sure about temperature rating). You could get two of these and use as under and overquit, or that as underquilt and jungle blanket as overquilt (jungle seems to have less insulation). Like I said, you could try alternating them to see what works.

If you use it as an underquilt (same goes for jungle blanket), make sure you have it kind of snug (not too snug) hugging the hammock - leave some room between it and the sleeping bag but not too much room. You can bunch up extra loose parts and just tie it up with cordage to bunch it all up and snug. And then you should be able to use the jungle blanket as top quilt, if we're talking 60 degrees. Make sure you take all the setup out for a test drive before you go for the long haul you're doing.

Like I mentioned, those two kinds of bags should be fine for 60s F.

I myself am switching out from that set up so I can use an actual underquilt made to be an underquilt (so it's sown accordingly and the cords are at the right place, all just to take less time to setup), and then use a jungle blanket. But I camp in a bit chiller to even colder weather.

If you're really worried about less than 50 degrees, what I have now is that sleeping bag as underquilt, and then I have a much thicker mummy bag as overquilt, which makes up for the thin underquilt: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001TR7QZA/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It's not an ideal under/over combination one might say, but I just happened to have gotten those and didn't feel like returning, plus they worked.

Sorry for the novel.

The wire saws have a trick to using them---they're best not used as a pull saw, but a a blade to make a bow saw.

There is a better alternative in my view: a hand chain saw works quite well straight out of the box. Some pack down quite small too, though they're all going to be quite a bit heavier than the wire saws.

The above link shows the differences between the two types as well. The chain saws easily chew through a 6" log, the wire saws (or the one which isn't a toy) take a lot more fiddling to get to work and assume materials that may or may not be available.

However, if you have the space, I prefer a collapsible Swede saw. I've used the Sven saw for years and it's fantastic as a backpacking tool. Much better than the other two types in my opnion.

Dad and grandpa always used Sven Saws

https://www.amazon.com/SVEN-SAW-SVEN01-BRK-Folding-Blade/dp/B002J900EQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1549256854&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=sven+saw&dpPl=1&dpID=41kIwXlZzAL&ref=plSrch

I've had the Estwing Camper's Axe for camping and hiking for years. Take it on 10-15 mile hikes, I like it because it's full tang metal, a little heavy, but i've broken other hickory handled axes.

To be fair, you can get by just as well with the Sven Saw, as long as you have access to lots of different kinds of wood. It goes through leg-sized logs very well. I still take the axe on trips because I like the added exercise and feel of chopping stuff.

I bought a Fiskars X7 14" hatchet for $23 at WalMart and use it regularly.

I love that hatchet. I attached the plastic sheath to the MOLLE webbing on my pack with two carabiners so it doesn't swing around much. It hacked easily through a 6" diameter Oak limb that had fallen from a tree and after de-limbing, I choked up on the handle of the hatchet to carve a bow-drill kit. I was surprised how versatile the hatchet is. The steel is a little on the soft side, so it will need to be honed regularly, but the softer steel is also very easy to hone with a puck or a stone, so I really don't mind doing it.

I actually just got rid of my Ontario RAT-5 because I simply stopped using it once I got that hatchet. I already had a Mora so I really only used the RAT-5 for batoning.

Best part is, it weighs <2lbs with the sheath. It's a cheap way to figure out if a camp axe or hatchet will work for you. If you like it but want a little more chopping power, you can get the X15, 23.5" chopping axe off Amazon for like $35.

Or, if you decide you like it and want something higher quality, look into Council Tool's Velvicut Boy's Axe or Velvicut Hudson Bay Axe, or something hand-forged by the Swedish elves at Gransfors Bruks or Wetterlings.

Be aware of your technique though. Hatchets and small axes are very dangerous if you aren't cognizant of the swing. If you miss with a short axe, it won't hit the ground, it'll just swing around into your leg, so always use a large safety log underneath your target log to catch the axe, or get down onto your knees if you're chopping something low to the ground. Just generally try not to swing the head of the axe below your hips, it's a waste of calories anyway. Use the lanyard hole on the handle to loop a string around your wrist, because when you get tired, it will come out of your hand, eventually.

If you don't like the axe, you may consider a folding saw, like a Sven 21" or 15", Bahco Laplander or Silky 210 and/or a large survival knife, like an Ontario Spec Plus SP50, Ka-Bar Becker BK7 or an ESEE 6.

Get off your lazy ass and go cut some trees, my favorite trail saw is the Sven Saw

Nice, I've got this

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002J900EQ/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Only think I don't like is the size. I wish I got the smaller version (15 inch I think). Might sell mine on craigslist and get it though

This one: http://amzn.com/B002J900EQ

The tree I cut through was huge. a solid 2 feet thick and the thing cut through in well under 10 minutes

Always keep 2 of these in the saddle, just in case

IDK What sort of weather you'll be camping/hiking in, but this is a pretty basic list of gear that I would take if I were on a budget:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006JYHI24/?tag=ultrastuff-20

http://www.amazon.com/Suisse-Sport-Adventurer-Ultra-Compactable-Sleeping/dp/B001TR7QZA/ref=sr_1_3?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1408072994&sr=1-3&keywords=ultralight

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FB7XYXM/?tag=ultrastuff-20

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002COCF3M/?tag=ultrastuff-20

That's a bag, tarp, hammock and sleeping bag. They all have great ratings and should get you through just about anything.

Me, personally, I carry my hammock, a wool blanket and my tarp from http://www.bushcraftoutfitters.com/ ( http://www.bushcraftoutfitters.com/Coyote-Tarp-10x10-tarp-10x10-coyote.htm ) in my army surplus bag. I also carry my stainless steel pot and cup, cordage, zip ties, leather gloves, folding saw, axe and knife with me when I'm out in the woods. I have a "space blanket" too.

My pack could be lighter for sure, but everything I have serves a purpose.

Whenever you decided you want to get into campinp/hiking/bushcraft/whatever, decided what you really need/want to have with you. Don't just jam random "camping" supplies in your bag. Take your time, research and pack carefully. Your back will thank you.

You don't need some crazy Ranma 1/2 events to occur to be able to pee standing up.

I present to you, you go girl! (it comes in Khaki

as well as a disposable urine director

or the Freshette

or even the pStyle

or the P EZ

Good point, like this one???

http://www.amazon.com/Military-Original-E-Tool-Entrenching-Shovel/dp/B004SOPJG4/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1398090412&sr=1-1&keywords=us+military+shovel

I use this. https://www.amazon.com/Military-Original-Issue-Entrenching-Shovel/dp/B004SOPJG4/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1540064650&sr=8-6&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=military+shovel&dpPl=1&dpID=418pyw8uw1L&ref=plSrch

Well, I don't know exactly what's meant by "survival knife", but I'll assume all around multitasking. My go to knife, if I have to pick one, is my mora. It's durably, easy to sharpen, keeps its edge, can handle a beating, and is conveniently sized. I use it for everything, and if I were to lose it, it's not so expensive that I'd feel a great loss. That said, were I to pick a single tool it would be either the coldsteel combat shovel, as its durable, cheap, and gets a surprisingly good edge or really any quality hatchet.

I value affordability in balance with quality, because while there are better knives on the market, they're a lot more expensive. For the value, I think the Mora Bushcraft is one of the best, but it all depends on what you like and need it for.

Why not just get the real thing?