Best trading card protective sleeves according to redditors
We found 672 Reddit comments discussing the best trading card protective sleeves. We ranked the 166 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
We found 672 Reddit comments discussing the best trading card protective sleeves. We ranked the 166 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
![KMC 100 Pochettes Card Barrier Perfect Size Soft Sleeves, 3 Pack/Total 300 Pochettes [Komainu-Dou Original Package], Clear](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51u7Q1KyPhL.jpg)
Hey, this seems like a really sweet gesture. I'm sure your husband will love it!
I would caution against white sleeves. They tend to get dirty more easily, and they don't always do a good job of fully blocking out the back of the card.
My personal recommendation for sleeves would be Dragon Shield Matte sleeves in a dark color. Here is an amazon listing for the Black version (which are generally the cheapest): https://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Shield-Matte-Protective-Sleeves/dp/B00WX57O7M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1500663177&sr=8-1&keywords=dragon+shield+matte
So I think that a pauper cube sounds like what you want to do. This is an all-commons cube, which, like you say, will allow fun, well-balanced play. It'll also be a bit lower complexity than a power cube would be, which is better for new players (as opposed to things like putting Eldrazi under a Mimic Vat).
Here's a link to an article about pauper cube with a link to a list at the bottom of the article.
The cards themselves will likely cost less than $100 - you may already have a good number of them - and then you would just need sleeves. I recommend double sleeving with something like the KMC Perfect Size inner sleeves and the KMC Hyper Matte sleeves outside. This will keep your cards in good condition (yes, they're commons, but it's nice if they stay nice looking. Some people also choose to foil out their pauper cube, since it's a lot cheaper to do than foiling out a powered or higher-powered cube, and double sleeving will prevent bending).
All in all for probably less than $200 you can make a fun pauper cube. Good luck!
Some good general gifts are:
Playmats: https://www.ultrapro.com/product_list.php?cPath=74_152&filter_id=&sort=2a&filter=inprint&osCsid=rip0n37n083bugo7kkqe6vi014
Card sleeves: https://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Shield-Matte-Protective-Sleeves/dp/B00WX57O7M
Deck boxes: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=deck+box+mtg&ref=is_s
Gift cards to popular stores/marketplaces: https://shop.tcgplayer.com/giftcard
Everybody can use those regardless of what cards they use so they're pretty safe gifts that will still get used.
If you ask him what his favorite cards or artists are, you might be able to get him a playmat, an art print or even a signed card from his favorite artist. eBay is a pretty good place to find signed cards.
It's less expensive for me on amazon.ca shipping included.
2 Perfect size Cad$10.70 or Usd$7.83
3 Hyper mat Cad$20.49 or Usd$15
Total on amazon.ca Usd$22.83 vs Usd$26.34 on massdrop
I decided to start collecting with Steam Siege and Generations. Figuring out the best way to keep stuff was daunting at first. After going through all of TCC's videos and lurking in this and the collection sub, this is the system I settled on:
-Each Set gets its own 1" binder. Be sure to use a D-ring style so the pages sit evenly on top of each other. I like these from Office Max/Depot because they open and close easily and have a pin-hole style of lock so it ensures alignment of the rings and minimizes catching pages.
--In the inside pocket of the cover, I put the Trainer's Guide from the ETB of the set, fits nicely in the larger of the 2 pockets. Make sure you don't put anything in the back cover's pockets, as that could make an uneven surface for your cards to rest on if you leave the binders on their sides.
--Then, each binder starts with a 4-pocket binder sheet to store one of each booster art for the set.
--After the booster page, I organize the cards by set number, starting with the core set followed by the parallel set. I use Ultra pro's 18 pocket side loading card pages for storing the cards. Pretty much hands down the best. I prefer the black backing and only want to put 1 card in each pocket. Nice fit, though I noticed some scratches/imperfections in clarity on the batch I got. Not a big deal for me, as they are still very durable, but may be for others.
---Basic cards go into a KMC perfect fit sleeve upside-down and then into the binder page. Good protection, tight fit, not too much cost. KMC's are pretty universally accepted as the best. As some have said, too tight a fit could damage a card, too loose and it wont fit for double sleeving. I've never had a KMC perfect fit that was too tight, maybe a little loose, but never tight that it could cause damage. Looser ones I just put to the side for storing non-foil cards and not for double sleeving.
---Any foil card (Holos, parallels, URs, SRs, etc.) go into a KMC perfect fit upside down, and then into a black KMC Hyper Mat before going into the binder. I usually double sleeve a stack of cards and then put them into a tight deck box or under a stack of books for a week or so to squeeze out all the air before putting them into the binder.
-Any extra cards then get stored in the ETB for the set they are from. Organize them however you like, but I keep one section for a playset of up to 4 of each card, and any copies above that go into a second 'trash/trade' section. Eventually I may put the playsets of 4 cards into penny sleeves just to keep things sorted more easily, but I don't have too much surplus yet to warrant it. Again, I always keep things ordered by set number.
--Here, any extra foil cards will get sleeved. Right now I am just using Ultra Pro's deck protectors since I ran out of perfect fits, but really don't like how they have the stippled surface on the inside of the sleeve as well. I can feel it scratching the edges/back of the card each time I sleeve one. Particularly valuable rares or holos may get double sleeved for better protection, but still get stored in the box.
-For actual play, I would stick to KMC hyper mats. Good shuffle feel, and last longer than the Ultra Pro's. I played a game with a buddy with my deck sleeved in the Ultra pro's and loved the shuffle feel, but the sleeves just break too easily if you catch a corner. Also they aren't opaque, KMC's are definitely the better looking.
First class mail package/thick envelope works absolutely fine with 4x8 bubble mailers. It costs about $2.67 if you purchase the postage through eBay, and you get the added bonus of free tracking and delivery confirmation. When you're shipping more valuable cards, you might want to spring for insurance (pay out of your own pocket if the buyer didn't request it specifically). It's pretty cheap and is a good way to play it safe.
 
Here's the method I've used for shipping hundreds of cards on eBay, with absolutely no problems whatsoever. You'll need the following supplies:
 
#000 4x8 Bubble Mailer
Penny sleeve
Toploader
Team bag
Scotch tape
Packing tape
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Hope this information helps anyone looking for a worry-free way to ship cards!
I bet he will find several thousand more dollars worth of cards in there. He should invest in some sleeves and card holders in order to protect his cards. I prefer to double sleeve, then put it in a magic card binder (NOT a regular 3 ring binder) or in a top loaders.
KMC Perfect Fit sleeves
https://www.amazon.com/KMC-Barrier-PERFECT-packs-Total/dp/B00T3Z72Q8
KMC Hyper Matte Playing Sleeves
https://www.amazon.com/KMC-Hyper-Matte-Sleeves-Sheets/dp/B00VCQXQAW
Rigid Top Loaders
https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Regular-TOPLOADERS-Standard/dp/B01G1GRLSA
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You take the card and (carefully) put the card upside down into the Perfect Fit sleeves. The card should fit snugly in there. Then you put the card into the Playing Sleeve with the opening of the Perfect Fit sleeve at the bottom. Then put the whole thing into a top loader.
So Card -> Perfect Fit sleeve -> Playing Sleeve -> Top Loader
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Good luck!.. And no more bend testing for all that is holy, lol.
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Edit to add: if they are in extremely good condition (like they look perfect straight out of the pack), it may be best to avoid the Perfect Fit because you can cause very small nicks in the corners if you're not careful putting them in which can affect their grade, but if they look like the Black Lotus you have there, then it's probably not a huge concern.
So, here's all the details on how people store Magic cards meant to be played, with links.
The gold standard for the number of Magic cards to store is 75 or 100 double sleeved cards. As long as your container can store this many cards in one section it will be at least useful to the owner. Additionally, no one really likes storing their cards flat like your current box. Cards are much, much easier to retrieve from the container if stored edge on (top or sides exposed as opposed to your front or back, look at the pictures below).
The Boulder deck box by Ultimate guard holds exactly the preferred number of cards, down to sub millimeter tolerance. 100 cards and 75 cards
Ultra pro makes a pretty ubiquitous soft plastic box for 75 cards and 100 cards which does offer a little more wiggle room.
Ultimate guard makes nearly identical boxes. 75 cards, 100 cards.
They call their 75 card boxes 80 card boxes but that's referring to single sleeving and even single sleevers tend to appreciate the extra space for a few ancillary cards like tokens.
Also, we do not double sleeve with penny sleeves but inverted(open end at bottom of card) perfect^1 fit^2 sleeves and with regular^1 sleeves^2 over that.
https://www.tolariancommunitycollege.com/how-to-double-sleeve-your-magic-the-gathering-cards-and-why-mtg/
Being able to hold cards is great but there is also some benefit to being able to hold a whole deck box. The Arkhive is a popular example. It holds snugly 5 x 75 card boulders and 4 x 100 card boulders. It also holds soft plastic boxes but less precisely.
When storing dice they are stored separately from cards. Ultra Pro, Ultimate Guard
Ultra Pro has gone through many packaging rebrands over the years, but they always have their standard sleeves available. This is the current version of them: https://www.ultrapro.com/product_info.php?products_id=1075&osCsid=509h24psatms7gsqmb8it2r9h6
It also looks like there are a bunch of them on Amazon for sale: https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Protector-Sleeves-2-Packs/dp/B009EXIAOC/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=ultra+pro+black+deck+protectors&qid=1573515530&sr=8-2
May I introduce you to penny sleeves: https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Soft-Sleeves-8-Inches/dp/B00CV859XC
I've used the Ultra Pro Deck Protectors for sleeving my board game cards and Warmachine cards. They look to be half the price of the Dragon Shield Clears too.
http://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Clear-Protector-Sleeves-2-Packs/dp/B00I4O16K2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462749689&sr=8-1&keywords=ultra+pro+clear+sleeves
KMC Perfect Fit huge price spike: $100,000 for 3 packs
How about 1000 sleeves for $8.95? These are the ones I use on my almost 3000 CAH cards (which reminds me, I'll soon need to order a 4th round of them...).
I just use this:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000K41E7E/
with these:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LIF20O/
It holds all the expansions.
Looking nice, good luck with your playtesting! Try using card sleeves like these if you're using a standard playing card size. They helped us when we had our game in an early state. Sleeves make the cards a bit more durable and easier to manage.
sounds like those could be what we call "penny sleeves" too. And not actual playing sleeves.
https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Soft-Sleeves-8-Inches/dp/B00CV859XC
https://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Shield-Matte-Protective-Sleeves/dp/B00WX57O7M/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1501691248&sr=1-1-spell&keywords=dragon+sheidlds
You can buy Perfect Fit sleeves in bulk
KMC 100 Card Barrier PERFECT SIZE (10 packs/Total 1000) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T3Z72Q8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_kJhcBb2QT96E3
Yes indeed, BCW makes these, available on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/BCW-Pro-8-Pocket-Multiple-Pockets/dp/B01IUG071W/
They even have convenient pockets for the Titles included. Cheers!
KMC Perfect Fit are sleeves that are designed to fit perfectly on normal sized cards, and thus work for Pokemon cards. They will thicken them up a little bit. They are completely transparent (no words, markings, or anything else on the sleeve), just a clear, colourless sleeve. They are very good quality.
Here they are on Canadian Amazon (would be cheaper on American if you live in the US): https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0007N7PB2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I use BCW sleeves. They're cheap and get the job done.
Oh man... ditch the old school binders.
I'm a pokemon card collector, so i'm not certain the sizes...however if the cards are of similar size..
PLEASE.....PLEASE....INVEST in "FOUR" binders.
Here's what I use [DeckTutor FOUR Binder] (https://www.amazon.com/DeckTutor-FOUR-12-Pocket-Collectors-Portfolio/dp/B00JNT0L80). I purchased 3 when they were on sale years ago.
I WOULD DEFINITELY RECOMMEND YOU INVEST IN THESE!!!! You'll thank me later!
http://www.cardkingdom.com/catalog/shop/battle-decks
I've played these a handful of times. The ones I can comment on:
I'd probably get 4 of those, and then a few packs of penny sleeves (these sleeves are less than $2) and some d20's / d6's / tokens for tracking stuff. Ally Rally & Emerging Evil are both pretty good for learning how to play fair, and then you can get 2 more decks that are less "fair" like Aura Blight or Thermal Detonator.
Decks I haven't played: Warriors! seems to show up a lot, so I'm assuming it's popular. Sphinx Control looks a lot like a classic control deck. Spider Spawning also seems pretty sweet.
For inner, I prefer DisKeeper IIs. But they often go out of stock on Amazon when I need them. MoFis are great too, though a bit more expensive. My current batch are these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N288RC4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And they're OK. Don't hate them. Don't love them.
As for outers, I use the BCW ones: https://www.amazon.com/RPM-Record-Sleeves-100-Count/dp/B003NG2WIG/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1497379007&sr=1-1&keywords=bcw+outer+sleeves
Can't beat the price on those. They are thin, but that's my preference. They fit most thicker gatefolds as well.
https://www.amazon.com/RPM-Record-Sleeves-100-Count/dp/B003NG2WIG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1505845621&sr=8-1&keywords=record+sleeves
these are pretty snug. They are a bit tight for double LPs with gatefold sleeves.
I've tried a number of different sorting methods and the one I'm using now I think is the best for a player's active collection. If you're not a player, you might be able to adapt what I do to make it good for you anyway.
So, for starters, each set gets its own binder. In addition, I have a binder for trades and secret rares, a binder for promos (one for each card generation, so SM Promos, XY Promos, etc.), and a binder for playable singles, sorted by set. At the front of each binder, I've also got a sheet protector that houses the booklet that comes with the set's Elite Trainer Box.
Each binder gets the card pages necessary to house a playset of each card from the set (secret rares excepted). I have created a spreadsheet in Excel that, in addition to calculating the necessary number of pages, will calculate the size of the binder the set will need based on the number of cards in the set. Each card is then organized by card number all the way through to the last of the special energies. I prioritize regular holos over reverse (prefer them) and reverse holos over non-holos. For alternate arts, I keep whichever art I prefer as the playset in the binder (for example, I prefer Alolan Vulpix GRI 21a over 21, so I keep 21a in the binder--when it's not in a deck, of course).
As for cards that exceed the playsets? It depends on whether I've considered them playable bulk or regular bulk. If I don't intend to try to trade it away, playable bulk goes into the playable bulk singles binder until it hits a full playset (always 4, even for cards that can only be one ofs in a deck, like prism star cards). Once it hits a full playset, the playset goes into a penny sleeve and then the playable bulk box (like this), which is sorted by set (using a divider from its Elite Trainer Box) and then divided by little plastic dividers (like these) into the following sections:
If I consider the card not playable, it goes into an Elite Trainer Box from the set it belongs to (or bulk boxes like the one I use for energies mentioned below if I don't have one), sorted by card number with same sections as above, just in case a card gets reclassed (like Chimecho CIN 43 did just recently). I still use the dividers with sets prior to Black and White, but the dividers are numerical instead (every 10 card numbers).
Basic energy cards are sorted into bulk storage boxes (like these).
If Cecchini or Lopez turn into anything, those '87 Style Inserts are fairly popular (the Judge and Benintendi versions go for $10-20 right now), but that's more a waiting game.
You might be able to get a ton for that Machado autograph, though. Great pull.
Edit: If you haven't already, invest in a couple penny sleeves and plastic top loaders to keep them safe, especially the Machado.
Here are a couple amazon links for what I use: https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Soft-Sleeves-8-Inches/dp/B00CV859XC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498764432&sr=8-1&keywords=penny+sleeves
https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Super-Thick-Toploader/dp/B000LQPEUY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1498764448&sr=8-2&keywords=top+loaders
Ultra Pro. Like $1.50 per 100 and fit ability cards great. Not too sticky either, but still make mashing cards together for shuffling easy. They are a tad bit taller than the cards if that will bother you at all, but there's not really any downside other than aesthetics.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00CV859XC/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1518698707&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=ultra+pro+card+sleeves&dpPl=1&dpID=51sxJI89fXL&ref=plSrch
I use these card sleeves. I love them because they fit perfectly to the card and it doesn't move around inside.
I personally prefer to slip the card in upside down so the top of the card is touching the bottom of the sleeve.
If I'm going to be scanning a lot of cards in my game (or mailing them), I use anything similar to these top loaders.
For a binder I am currently using a few of these ultra pro 4-pocket binders until I have all of the official binders here.
Thanks! If you mean the card sleeve pages, I use these: https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Platnium-Imperial-sizedCards/dp/B01CTY7LT2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1537157742&sr=8-1&keywords=ultra+pro+16+pocket
I got them cheaper at a local board game/collectible shop that sells the sleeve pages for 30 cents each.
I grabbed the Ultra Pro pages for our sleeved marketplace cards and they work perfectly. The very tops of the cards stick out of the slot a very slight bit (~1mm) and the sleeves themselves stick out just slightly further (~3mm), but it isn't an issue in a binder. The 4-of items are a tight fit, but they do fit sleeved. The exact item I got was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CTY7LT2/ but they are the same product (25pages vs 100pages).
BCW makes an 8 pocket Multi size that fits tarot cards nicely.
https://www.amazon.com/BCW-Pro-8-Pocket-Multiple-Pockets/dp/B01IUG071W/
Or if you don't want those extra pockets, BCW and Ultra Pro makes 3.5 x 5 in 4 pocket pages.
https://www.amazon.com/20-Twenty-Pages-4-Pocket-Postcards/dp/B003AOG42Q
https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Twenty-4-Pocket-pockets/dp/B005H7F0RY
BCW Pro 8-Pocket - Multiple Size Pockets - (20 Ct. Pack) - For Star Wars Armada https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IUG071W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_i3X0DbD7W3DGM
Lets you carry ship cards with title upgrades right next to them.
I had got a huge pack of these:
BCW Pack of 100 Soft Sleeves - Penny Sleeve for Baseball Cards & Other Sports Cards https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002TT3N4/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_yQhTub0NVM8T4
Then I ran out while sleeving wrath and ordered the 100 pack.
I bought some Dragon Shield sleeves for mine, and they work just fine. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000P0SY44
I sleeve all of mine with Ultra Pro. I've been using these since I started sleeving with Overpower cards. Still use them for DiceMasters, Smash Up and Legendary.
I ordered from Germany via amazon, about 26€ or 30€ when I remember it right.
EDIT: http://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B00JNT0L80/ref=redir_mdp_mobile?keywords=four%20magic&qid=1410824917&ref_=sr_ph&sr=1
25€ +5€ shipping to Germany
Pretty good, but after shipping it still comes out to about $6 per pack, while you can get 5 for about $4.5 a pack and with fast shipping with Amazon if you have prime: https://www.amazon.com/KMC-Hyper-Matte-Sleeves-Sheets/dp/B00VCQXQAW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494958836&sr=8-1&keywords=kmc+hyper+matte
Pages 14 Pocket Stand Card Sleeves (10 Piece), Black, Mini https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CS104FE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Ha3HzbZ6ZQ09N
Not sure if this is what you meant. But it makes it easy for opponents to see your cards and upgrades. Just pass the whole thing across the table if they ask a question
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CS104FE/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apip_ps1flgLV1stH3
protect it or get a different wallet if it matters that much to you
Are the sleeves you're referring too these KMC perfect fits? - https://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Barrier-Sleeves-Piece-Clear/dp/B0007N7PB2
I always used these for my binder as double sleeves and I love them, but I find it kinda hard to shuffle with them sometimes and they kind of slide off PC white easily as well.
These are my favorite card sleeves. Card Barrier Perfect Size.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007N7PB2/ref=oh_details_o07_s01_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I like them because they fit standard cards perfectly. A lot of sleeves have some space between the card and the sleeve edge... these have virtually no space... very snug fit.
Amazon have them but sadly the prices aren't great. I've came across the same problem as you're having too. For now I've ordered a 3-ring binder along with pocket pages and also some sleeves. The sleeves and pocket pages arrived a couple of days ago and the sleeves fit perfectly into the pocket pages. I'm still waiting on the binder but I'm looking forward to it. Least this'll keep my cards safe until I get my hands on albums.
Sorry I can't be of more help!
if you want to do that dragon shield makes clear sleeves check your LGS for the sleeves first before ordering!.
Holy hell... that picture on the package... as a side note, my friend and I have both bought these for our box sets and we love them. I sort of feel like you can't play this game without card sleeves, and you can't use the sleeves without a box insert. It's a little expensive, but considering how expensive the base set and ADs are, it's well worth the investment.
Edit: As a side note, I highly recommend this sleeve set. It's $8.95 for 1000 sleeves and it's Prime Eligible.
https://www.amazon.com/Sleeves-Sleeve-Baseball-Sports-Packaging/dp/B000Y4HI7A/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=penny+sleeves&qid=1556159133&s=gateway&sr=8-3
There ya go
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000Y4HI7A/ref=pe_175190_21431760_M3T1_ST1_3p_dp_1
I use the Ultra pro penny sleeves. They are flappy and thin, but cheap.
Regarding the decal, the penny sleeves don't have one. I'm not sure about their higher end sleeves.
Here you go, which reminds me that I just ran out of these last week
Just preference on what you like. I like being able to see both sides of the card so I use regular Ultra Pro penny sleeves on my cards. I've been slowly finding my old collection of Pokemon and a lot of the top loaders have yellowed some but the cards inside the sleeves are fine. This an ok deal on penny sleeves and Top Loaders I've got before: https://www.amazon.com/3x4-Top-Loaders-Ultra-Pro/dp/B002K2MNGK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1510800635&sr=8-1&keywords=3x4+Top+Loaders+100+ct+by+Ultra+Pro+-+Plus+100+Free+Card+Sleeve+Promo+Pack+%281+Pack%29
Recently found out about these Pro-Fit sleeves that fit Pokemon cards perfectly and have been using these for cards that I put in binder pages.
https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Standard-Pro-Fit-Transparent-Sleeves/dp/B005HXLH3O/ref=sr_1_1?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1510800779&sr=1-1&keywords=Ultra-Pro+Standard+Pro-Fit+Transparent+Clear+Sleeves+%28100%2FPack%29+89mm+x+64mm
The solid back colored sleeves to me look alright if you are playing with the cards.
Amazon has 100 Ultra Pro toploaders and 100 penny sleeves for $11 plus shipping. I ship a few dozen cards every month, and one order of these will last me a few months. Otherwise, if you're just using them to store cards, it's probably more than you'd ever realistically need. A great deal, IMO.
Just got a huge collection from my dad (lucky me) contains some first prints of Led Zeppelin II and IV (US not Germany) and tons of other beauties (my fave Steve Miller Band's first album first print) and I would just like to know the best way to keep them you know, safe. They aren't all the best quality condition wise but they're from my dad, so you know, sentimental.
I found these https://www.amazon.com/RPM-Record-Sleeves-100-Count/dp/B003NG2WIG but i don't know if this is what I need i'm a complete noob. Is there something like a filer that I could use instead so i could sort it by artists?
Also, about something to actually keep them in besides a tub? I'll be listening to them all the time cause I absolutely love the sound of a nice vinyl on high quality speakers. I'm quit low on money so anything cheap would work I'm not worried about looking like the fanciest guy in town. I'm lucky enough with the speakers I have and the albums I attained.
You should invest in some of these.
Shrink wrap continues to shrink over time and can bend the corners. Just a thought.
A record shop I frequent uses these, which are exceptionally sturdy and accommodate most gatefolds with no issue.
For singles, I use these. They are not as sturdy but accomodate singles just fine.
For outer sleeves, I use these. They're inexpensive (100 for $15, sometimes less since Amazon changes the price sometimes) and are crystal clear enough that you can see the album art through without any cloudiness or discoloration. This is useful so that it doesn't become hard to read the spines on your shelf; other sleeves I've used have posed that issue.
For inners, I should be buying diskkeepers but I'm too lazy and haven't gotten around to it. I also have ~425 records in my collection, many of which are more than one disc, so I know it would take fucking forever to get through all of them with replacement sleeves.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003NG2WIG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I use these and have never had a problem with them. I like that they aren't too big, aren't too small. I think they're juuusst right.
Thank you! It has been a long process lol
For the dividers, I use the BCW trading card dividers. I got them here:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005LIF20O/ref=ppx_yo_mob_b_inactive_ship_o0_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1&th=1
I then used a label maker with a small clear tape to stick on them.
I highly recommend trading on /r/pkmntcgtrades, just read up on the guidelines before you do.
Purchase some top loaders and penny sleeves. Place cards into penny sleeve into top loader, and use a bit of scotch tape to make sure they don't slide out.
You can either mail with (bubble mailer) or without tracking (plain white envelope). I always use some extra paper to make sure the envelope doesn't collapse on itself if I ship without tracking. If the cards are expensive, always use tracking and a bubble mailer.
For payment, I use paypal almost exclusively.
Good luck and have fun!
I used the ultra pro standards. They've worked well for all my standard card games like Legendary Marvel, Harry Potter Hogwartz Battle, and Clank!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I4O16K2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Personally for cards that I store at home and are not for trade I store them in a plain white card box sorted by color and name.
edit: I used to use this binder for playsets until my cards didn't fit in it anymore. https://www.amazon.com/DeckTutor-FOUR-12-Pocket-Collectors-Portfolio/dp/B00JNT0L80
I would recommend using KMC Perfect Fit sleeves. They are great for double sleeving, and for storing cards in a binder. Also, make sure not to use a 3 ring binder with the loose ultra pro plastic pages, the rings can damage your cards over time. Use a side loading binder like This.
You are using the wrong size of perfect fits. You need these: https://www.amazon.com/KMC-pochettes-Barrier-Komainu-Dou-Original/dp/B00NU5F7U0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1517708010&sr=8-1&keywords=kmc+perfect+fit
They are standard size for MTG and Pokemon. I play with KMC perfect fit inner sleeves and dragon shield outers. My deck is all reverse holo, holo, or full art. No warps at all.
I use the classic KMC perfect size inner sleeves. They hold the card very snug, so they fit in most normal sleeves.
They're generally sold for about $5.99 for 100 sleeves, but I've gotten deals on Amazon for buying bulk.
Actually, I use the perfect size sleeves for a lot of single-sleeving, since they're so tight to the card and are completely translucent on both sides. All of my trade foils are inside them to prevent scratching, and to act as an inner sleeve in the binder page pockets.
Also I would use these on any cards that have value. The binder will keep them safe, but over the years they will still get scratched and worn from not being in sleeves. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00NU5F7U0/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1524175687&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=perfect+fit+card+sleeves
Amazon has been my best source for these and generally are half the price of my LGS (Canadian Amazon)
https://www.amazon.ca/KMC-Barrier-PERFECT-packs-Total/dp/B00T3Z72Q8/ref=sr_1_2?crid=26UWNOY3F32Y8&keywords=perfect+fit+sleeves&qid=1568310008&sprefix=perfect+%2Caps%2C156&sr=8-2
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T3Z72Q8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_goB-Bb58VVA7F
Yes, everything.
Use: KMC Perfect Fits
Every Standard size card I own goes in those, and weird shapes go in Sleeve Kings, Mayday's founder's attempt at making a better product from the ground up.
I mean it’s going to be snug. Most of the people I know who double sleeve use dragon shield tbh. You could try a different inner sleeve. Kmc is supposed to have some really nice ones.
KMC 100 Card Barrier PERFECT SIZE (10 packs/Total 1000) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T3Z72Q8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_5zS3DbKJBRQ5W
This is what I've found for the 14 pocket:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ol/B01CS104FE/ref=olp_tab_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new
http://www.fishpond.com/Toys/Ultimate-Guard-14-Pocket-Mini-American-Compact-Pages-Ultimate-Guard/4056133002516?utm_source=googleps&utm_medium=ps&utm_campaign=US&gclid=CjwKEAiA3NTFBRDKheuO6IG43VQSJAA74F77n-wo3qlOOeVXTEHmFf2JCe4cb9SXriBgKIU6Y8hZMxoCm9jw_wcB
And for the 32 pocket:
https://www.amazon.com/Pages-Pocket-Stand-Sleeves-Piece/dp/B01CS0ZUCC - (this is cheap and Prime eligible. 3 left!)
http://www.games-island.eu/en/32-pocket-pages-mini-american_269/
Edit: wrong link for the first 32 pocket
I use these pages, however they are for a smaller binder. But I load a page with the unit card, all unit specific upgrades and the things I never remove. Then I can pull the whole page and use it during play. Just flip the cards I'm not using.
Ultimate Guard Pages 14 Pocket Stand Card Sleeves (10 Piece), Black, Mini https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CS104FE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_fN1QCbV50BKN6
Here you go:
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CS104FE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
A half inch 3 ring binder from staples or office depot, and then one order of:
https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Platnium-Imperial-sizedCards/dp/B01CTY7LT2/ref=pd_m_ba_rp_of_7?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=S80YM1MP2Q41FCWDNM40
(Check local game store to support them if you can please, but this is an unusual product to find stocked, so amazon link)
While I am generally a proponent of foamcore, I would not recommend it for this game. With this type of game, I feel that speed of setup is the most important part of storage. Sure, there are foamcore solutions, but there is just not enough room to compartmentalize things where they are efficient.
My buddy had the same idea of foamcoring this, and thought I was being silly about considering the insert or ultimately buying the four Planos we ended up using. He changed his tune after we got done punching and organizing.
We use a variation of the Y.A.S.S Plano boxes. Map tiles are in an accordion folder, market cards are in a 3 ring binder with pocket sleeves (unlocked are hidden with a piece of paper taped to the back side), and monster stat cards and decks are in an old school CD folder from a thrift store. We use 4x6 photo boxes for the characters currently in play.
Links:
Y.A.S.S main thread
Y.A.S.S Plano boxes legend 1 (our monster AI is in the CD folder, so we photoshopped the legend to spread cards out so they fit while sleeved)
Y.A.S.S Plano boxes legend 2
File folder
Pocket sheets
Character boxes They sell these individually at Michaels for like $2, but I bought a case on sale. They fit everything but the paper pad great. A couple strips of foam converted one into a dual deck box for the current city and road events. We also store the monster attack modifier deck here, to free up room in the Planos for other cards.
I know this isn't want you asked for, but it works great for us, and I have no clue how you could get anywhere nearly as organized with foam core. And no, this does not fit in the box either, but this game is massive. The binder, accordion folder, and CD binder are stored externally, and the rest packs the box full. But setup is smooth.
Io ho imbustato Jaipur nelle bustine tipo queste, ma mi sa che sono più per proteggere carte "da esposizione", più che per giocarci.
Tuttavia non ci sono troppi problemi nel mescolamento, se non proprio l'altezza delle buste che è 2-3 mm più delle carte.
In genere, quanto costano in negozio le bustine semi rigide per le carte standard (tipo queste)? Ho come l'impressione che Amazon le faccia strapagare (e ogni volta che passo in negozio mi dimentico di chiedere)
I sleeved mine with https://www.amazon.ca/KMC-Sleeves-Perfect-Fit-100-Pack/dp/B0007N7PB2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484944107&sr=8-1&keywords=kmc+perfect+fit
Then I made a new insert from foam core.
It just barely fits, but it does. I will try to remember to post a picture when I get home.
Penny sleeves have been my LotR LCG mainstay for a while now, but my head has been turned by the slightly more expensive 'inner' sleeve packs. Made for obsessive M:tG players to doublesleeve their cards, these are like penny sleeves that fit the cards precisely. No gaps, snug fit.
Scuse the UK amazon link, but these are the ones I have bought:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/KMC-Perfect-Size-Sleeves-100/dp/B0007N7PB2
I may, slowly, use these to resleeve my character cards, as the flabby overhang on the penny sleeves just looks and feels terrible by comparison. These perfect fit ones have ruined the others for me! Get them at your own risk!
The formats are always {set} onwards. Any set released after the given set, including the given set, is legal in that format. The current standard format, for example, is Primal Clash onwards.
Something worth noting is, as Bulbapedia says, a set is only legal after 3 fridays of release in the US. This doesn't mean you can't play the cards you get, it just means you can't use them in official events (though I'd make sure that whoever you're against is okay with you using the new cards first).
The format usually changes late August/early September, and while Expanded is still Black & White onwards, Standard is always a much smaller card pool, to allow variety and newer cards. Sets usually stick around for 2 years (ish).
Either way, have fun with collecting. There's no better feeling than pulling an amazing card. I highly recommend double sleeve-ing your most valuable/favourite cards (a perfect fit upside-down, then a regular sleeve over the top), as this will protect them from liquids pretty well.
Perfect fit sleeves fit your card... well, perfectly. They are just barely bigger than the card and are meant to be used with regular sleeves. Just an added layer of protection. I used to use them when I played MTG for some of my super expensive decks. They make your decks super bulky and I personally don’t think they are necessary unless you are playing some super expensive cards or if you wanna add a tiny degree of water protection to your cards. Also be warned that some people claim that certain kinds of perfect fits can warp your cards.
here is a link for perfect fits
Penny sleeves are way bigger than cards and can offer some protection if you’re just putting cards in a binder or top loader. They’re not really for playing. (Your cards will fall out and it will be impossible to shuffle.) Most people use them for storage. Personally I use them when I mail cards in a trade or something. It’s really not doing much except maybe protection from scratches. When I say they are big I mean you could probably put 5-7 cards in 1 penny sleeve.
here is a link for penny sleeves
Hope I could help
never tried and never will try. Don’t take my word for it.
Are these the ones that you got?
http://www.amazon.com/KMC-pochettes-Barrier-Perfect-Sleeves/dp/B0007N7PB2
http://www.amazon.com/Hyper-Matte-Sleeves-80-Pack-Black/dp/B00CJ7415M/ref=sr_1_2?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1449515713&sr=1-2
Are they still okay to play with once the sleeves are on?
I do this with my Scion Dragon Tribal EDH deck. I can't tell you his setup, but I can tell you what I've found to work well:
KMC Perfect Fits, as the inner-sleeve, put on upside down, so the opening is at the bottom of the card.
Any Normal Sleeve works as your mid sleeve. For the tightest fit, use KMC Matte (NOT SILK); however I use Ultra-Pro Illustrated ones, because the outer sleeves make the shuffle feel nice; so no worries about the middle one. These are put on normally, opening at the top of the card.
Finally, KMC Character Guards. These go on upside down, with the openings at the bottom; and make the deck feel like a more smooth KMC shuffle-feel. Wonderful together, but be prepared for a REALLY thick deck. Can be tough to shuffle all the cards with smaller hands.
In total; you'll need 1 set of Inner-Sleeves; 1-2 Sets of Middle-Sleeves depending if you buy a back with at least 100 in it; or if you just get a couple packs of 60-80; and 2 packs of Outer Sleeves. It can be a bit pricy, but nothing protects like it; 'cept maybe a top loader over each, haha.
Hope this helps!
EDIT: While I would 100% Recommend Dragon Shield Matte sleeves to anyone who plays Magic; I wouldn't recommend Triple sleeving with them as the middle sleeve. They're a little taller than most other sleeves, and might stick out more with the outer-sleeves. Haven't tested, but be Wary; like good ol' Norin.
> Sentinels, 7 Wonders, Pandemic
For non-CCGs I use KMC Perfect Fit sleeves. They're super thin (doesn't completely wreck deck/stack height,) fit cards quite snugly, and provides plenty of scuff/wet protection as well as easier/side shuffling.
My RFTG+expansions, Pandemic, and Netrunner are all fully sleeved with them. Probably have over a thousand cards sleeved in them so far.
I'm really surprised nobody else really seems to use them. They're kind of pricey for not-exactly-penny-sleeves but the production tolerances obviously much stricter. (Last pack of cheap sleeves I got essentially had two different sizes of sleeves in the same pack. They literally went in the trash.)
For MtG/CCGs where you've got single cards valued at $10+ I use Dragon Shields. For drafting I sleeve everything Perfect Fits. Just because its better than playing raw.
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edit: In my experience, all sleeves are oil slick when they're fresh. Play a couple times to break them in and they're fine.
Regarding dragon sleeves and splitting, I find Dragon Sleeves split FAR more often than Perfect Fits. Maybe all KMCs are better in that regard, or maybe fitting much tighter just means less stuff to snag. To Dragon Sleeves' credit, you get 105-110 in a "box of 100" so you do have some extras when they split. It would be infuriating to buy a box of a certain color for a MtG Commander deck (100 cards exactly,) have one split, and then need to buy another entire box of that color.
I have used these to great success: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007N7PB2/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I use those as the inner sleeve and Dragon Shield as the outer sleeve, although I'm sure you could use almost any other outer sleeve as well. As /u/InkmothNexus points out, double-sleeved + top loader and in a safe, dry place is going to do the trick.
Whoops, my phone I guess has learned to change MTG to MTGO I guess, my bad. I meant something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Shields-Protective-Sleeves-100-Pack/dp/B000P0SY44
@ /u/aetius476 - Both sides visible, but you can actually play with them! Good luck and Merry Christmas.
That makes sense. I've always assumed penny sleeves were about $1 for 100 sleeves, though I'm sure inflation will kick in ay some point.
I just searched on Amazon and here's one I found (with free shipping, too!)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000Y4HI7A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_XgwTBb8AZ6W92
CRIKES!?!!? $2.50 for a pack of penny sleeves?
Do you have local stores in your area? Because at my local i pay $0.89 + tax for those.
Actually you can get that price if you buy in bulk apparently
http://www.amazon.com/Sleeves-Sleeve-Baseball-Sports-Packaging/dp/B000Y4HI7A/
There's a pack of those Amazon cards in sets of 1,000 for a better deal.
I sleeved my entire Legendary with them and am incredibly satisfied with them. As long as you're not expecting a super tight fit, they'll be fine.
Since I'm not a gigantic jackass.
[–]DaveLambertModerator 6 points 1 year ago
How about 1000 sleeves for $8.95 ? These are the ones I use on my almost 3000 CAH cards (which reminds me, I'll soon need to order a 4th round of them...).
Amazon is basically my go-to for almost everything.
If you want dirt cheap then go for these. My problem with them is that they are HORRIBLE for shuffling unless if they get worn out a bit.
My current go-to's are these. Roughly about 500% more expensive than the ones above, but I have absolutely 0 complaints with them. They are solid, have a back and they shuffle very well out of the bag.
You might have different needs than me. I have like 30 EDH decks. I wanted cheap deck boxes that would should the commander. I wanted them to be replaceable if I wanted and sturdy enough I wouldn't often want to.
This is not for people who want deck boxes as lovingly crafted as their decks or want completely indestructible boxes that are hermetically sealed. This will repel some water, like rain or a quickly cleaned spilled drink, but not protect again submersion.
I settled on BCW 100 count boxes with a hard toploader attached with packaging tape.
50 count of boxes - https://www.amazon.com/Count-Bundle-Corrugated-Cardboard-Storage/dp/B000K3XPTA/
100 count ultrapro toploader - https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Loaders-Sleeve-Promo/dp/B002K2MNGK?th=1&psc=1
If you order each 100 at a go it will cost less than $1 per box. If you buy the stuff for one box, you might pay $2 for the box at an LGS and another dollar for the toploader. it might be worth it to buy a small pack of toploaders because they are randomly useful and I have never regretted having spares.
Add any clear packaging tape and have cheap deck boxes that show off the commander. I used Duck brand max strength ultra clear HD. No clue what my tape is doing with the extra HD pixels, but it is strong and I got it walmart for less than $5 and use it for anything that needs clear tape.
With the dispenser about $6 per roll - https://www.amazon.com/Duck-Clear-Packaging-Refill-441962/dp/B0006HX2MU
Without dispenser about $2 per roll - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000GR5XCW
I like these
BCW 1-RSLV 33 RPM Record Sleeves (100 Count) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003NG2WIG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_zaexDbCCDV2QP
Also have them in an IKEA Kallax shelf, to prevent Ringwear I don’t pack them in too tight
Process of any record I receive. Open it, air spray big dust particles off, use cleaner with a simple microfiber cloth (i damp the cloth) after that I put back all the internals into the record sleeve and then put the actual record in some good inner sleeves and put it behind the record sleeve and put all of that in some simple outer sleeves. I do this to every record and I do it because I value the money I put into my collection and would like to prevent wear and tear (I have a 13 month old daughter on the lose) especially for trading purposes in the future.
I find it's best stored in damp, warm places, or if possible near open flame. Under a furnace, or near but not in, a fireplace.
Yeah you're fine dude. Vertical is best. If you wanna preserve the jacket, get outer sleeves like these and keep the record in the sleeve alongside the jacket, in the clear outer sleeve. Then you won't end up with ringwear on the jacket after a couple years.
This is probably not a popular choice for outer sleeves but I bought these since they were cheaper and I think they're great. I've had no problems with them except it's a little hard to get double LPs in them sometimes.
For inner sleeves I use Mobile Fidelity Master Sleeves Amazon
For outer sleeves I'm not terribly concerned so I use the cheap ones Amazon
These are the ones I use on all 400+ of my records. Sometimes you have to put gatefolds in on a different side than the rest, but they do the job.
It's probably too late in your project for this, but you can always print alternatively so you can skip the seal step later. However, both of these make double sided figures problematic. This increases the costs, but might balance out some of the sealing costs.
Print to transparencies. (Of course, white is then an issue.) Example: https://www.amazon.com/3M-3700-Color-Laser-Transparency/dp/B00004TS5M
Print to water-resistant labels, and stick onto plastic. Example:
https://www.amazon.com/Packs-BCW-Trading-Divider-Dividers/dp/B005LIF20O and https://www.amazon.com/Neato-Blank-Full-Sheet-Labels/dp/B01FKXOJOY
I use these
for Netrunner because they're cheap and work fine.
Over about 100-150 games with tons of shuffling, maybe 10 have split. That probably pains people who are sleeve connoisseurs, but I always have spares handy and they work for me.
This video was super informative for which high-end sleeves are best.
At my store the Ultra Pro are the cheapest one's. 100 for $8. Amazon have 200 for 10 https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Black-Protector-Sleeves-2-Packs/dp/B009EXIAOC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1481571065&sr=8-2&keywords=mtg+sleeves
I'd consider buying a few extra packs of sleeves as expansions roll out. You can get penny sleeves which can avoid typical wear and tear, shuffle decently, and won't break your bank.
You can always just buy penny sleeves. Here is 500 sleeves for 6.85 they are fairly low quality which should be apparent by the price, but they will help preserve them a little bit. They also are a lot easier to work with than laminating as well.
So... to answer the second part of your question... card protection:
I(and basically everyone around me) uses these: https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Soft-Sleeves-8-Inches/dp/B00CV859XC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1501168960&sr=8-1&keywords=ultra+pro+sleeves
They're slightly loose on the cards which I like... makes them easier to get in and out if needed. You can get tighter ones that fit like a glove, but I like the slightly looser ones. Just need to be consistent in loading them so your marks line up on the wound circles.
For organization, I use these binders: https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-PRO-BINDER-Leatherette-Sideloading/dp/B004FVJDV2/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1501168694&sr=8-10&keywords=card+binder
They're available in colors... I can get two complete factions in a binder. So I've got a Green one that houses Rezzers/Neverborn, and a Red one with Guild/Ten Thunders. 9 pockets per page... I tend to group everything by role... so a "page" for masters, a page for totems, then Henchmen, enforcers, minions, etc. I put "page" in quotes because it's really two pages as there's plenty of room to space everything out. For upgrades, I keep them grouped by crew and there's enough room for them to stay seperate and not get mixed together. Dupes I just stack in the same pocket... so things like Rotten Belles only take one slot.
Nice thing about the binders is the pockets are "side loading" so stuff isn't sliding out of the binder. I tried 3 ring binders with the pocket pages in them at the start and the top loading really sucked. Plus these take up less space in my bag... I generally carry two factions with me when I'm playing, but in my bag I keep all my cards (three notebooks) to keep things consistent, so saving space is helpful.
I ordered the mayday mini sleeves for my game and now I'm worried about it.
These are the sleeves I ordered:
Full Size & Mini
Should I just go ahead and return them all? Do you have any recommendations for sleeves?
And be sure to get your hands on sleeves. There are a lot of different ones. I'll tell you the ones I use once I'm home :)
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Edit:
Regular Soft Card Sleeves These are the regular sleeves. They are a little bit bigger than the cards
Perfect Fit Sleeves These sleeves perfectly fit the cards with almost no space at the sides.
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I combine them with the regular sleeves. I use them upside down so that the opening is at the bottom at the card and then put them into a regular sleeve. So it's 100% protected from dust
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I put them into a binder after that so there is not too much exposure too the sunlight
If you're looking for the cheapest option, just go with penny sleeves:
http://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Sleeves-Penny-Sealed/dp/B00CV859XC
or
https://maydaygames.com/almost-a-penny-card-sleeves.html
Those cardinal binders look nice, but are awfully expensive on Amazon for me.
Moving on, to answer some of your questions (and to ask some of my own), what sleeves do you recommend? I found these, would they suffice for ultra pro 9 pocket pages? Or do I want something a little thicker? I chose those because they are on the cheaper side, from what I've read review wise, they are also thin, however.
As for how many cards I have right now, none, I'm going to be buying a lot of singles via eBay until I complete my original binder(s) of holos. So I'm completely rebuilding my collection from scratch.
Last question, what is the difference between a trade binder and a 3-ring binder, or is a trade binder just what you call a 3-ring binder where you put your rarest cards that are up for trade?
There's a lot of sleeve reviews on Youtube, but I'd like to weigh in on this.
I have roughly 400 games with huge chunk of them sleeved, and a box of sleeves in just about every size and brand possible. Fantasy Flight makes great sleeves, though Panasia beats every hands down by price. Mayday is close, and appear to use juuuust slightly better quality than Panasia. Ultrapro is pretty good, about as good as Fantasy Flight, but they have that damn emblem in the corner. Surprisingly, I've only ever had Ultrapros rip and that was while shuffling cards in Avalon.
As for thinness, Mayday and Panasia make the thin ones, but thin means not as durable. I sleeved my Legendary Games (Predator, Aliens, Firefly, and Big Trouble In Little China) with Ultrapro because I got like 600 cards on Amazon for $27 (link here: https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Protectors-Sleeves-Standard-Colors/dp/B00HOI5KSS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1494267860&sr=8-2&keywords=ultra+pro+600). Somehow, the price hasn't changed since I lost bought some, and I think I have a stock of a few hundred left.
When you're sleeving games like Legendary Encounters, then you're going to spending a decent chunk, $15-$25. Good luck!
Edit: For what it's worth, I sleeved Terraforming Mars with Panasia and I regret it. The sleeves stick together because the sweat from being handled so much just sticks to the cards. Just posting this makes me want to go back and unsleeve/resleeve them. I pray for my fingers...
Double edit: I actually sleeved three of my Legendary games with Mayday sleeves, not Ultrapro. I think I got them for $2.50 per 100, which was cheaper than Ultrapro. They've held up fine and they're quite thin.
I am also new to the hobby, so just today, I ordered this to sleeve all of the games that use the standard card size (63mm x 88mm). You can obviously find them in smaller quantities.
I've been double sleeving mine since I started. I use a few different over-sleeves.
I use the fantasy flight black sleeves for the encounter deck, and fantasy white sleeve for set aside cards. Which ultimately I've decided I don't like because of the difficulty to acquire at times and they are very long compared to other sleeves. With that said they aren't bad sleeves just not the best.
I use Ultra-Pro Clear Deck Protector Sleeves for any double sided cards such as locations, acts, agendas, and special cards. These I really like, they are pretty spot on for sizing with the perfect fits. They have a great handling feel, though can be slick, and have a good thickness to them. I know some don't like the emblem on the but I've found it doesn't really matter to me. I do think there are a version of these with out the emblem.
I also color code my investigators with class color. I have used different sleeves to get the right colors as I could but if you can I can recommend the Ultra-Pro Eclipses followed by the Ultra-Pro Matte. The sizing, quality, and color are top rate. I absolutely love the black inside backing of the Eclipses.
Note: I've not been satisfied with the dragon shields as in my experience they are slightly too narrow for double sleeving with the KMC perfect fits.
I would never trust my collection to cheap three ring binders and loose pages.
Spend a few extra bucks and buy something solid. This what I use:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JNT0L80?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I just ordered one from Decktutor so i'm looking forward to trying it out. I just hope it isn't a fake :(
From the many binders I've used when I played Yugioh, Magic, Weiss, etc. I think Monster binders are the best for what they are worth. I like them because they are durable and the way you insert cards from the side makes it easier for cards to not fall out. It's a nice binder to invest for trades.
Here's a standard 9 pocket Monster binder:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0043FLAZM?keywords=monster%20binder&qid=1450480128&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1
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If you want to collect SPs or holos and want even something more nice to look at, I highly recommend the FOUR binders. They have 4 pockets per page and it is same to Monster in how you insert the cards in the page. The binder looks like a scrapbook but it is still a nice size to fit to a backpack or wherever you go. I think this is probably what you are looking for.
FOUR Binder:
http://www.amazon.com/DeckTutor-FOUR-12-Pocket-Collectors-Portfolio/dp/B00JNT0L80/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450480435&sr=8-1&keywords=four+binder
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And here is an example of what my collection looks like in the 4 binder:
http://i.imgur.com/UAnD4HU.jpg
https://www.amazon.com/KMC-pochettes-Barrier-Komainu-Dou-Original/dp/B00NU5F7U0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484076326&sr=8-1&keywords=kmc+perfect+fit
A lot of people recommend sleeves that are a bit bigger than the card and I dont know why. I tried quite a few and hated them. Then I found KMC perfect fit, they are still cheap but fit the cards almost exact, barely tell they are there.
https://smile.amazon.com/KMC-pochettes-Barrier-Komainu-Dou-Original/dp/B00NU5F7U0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519142857&sr=8-1&keywords=kmc+perfect+fit
For my high value cards, I double sleeve them. First I load them top first into perfect fit sleeves, then load them bottom first into a larger sleeve like the ETB sleeves. I like the extra shine from the silver on the ETB sleeves and they're nice and big. Then, they go in a top loader.
For any mid-range cards I at least put them in a single sleeve.
At a minimum, you should be putting cards you care about into sleeves and then a top loader. Putting the open end of the sleeve down into the top loader would definitely be better to protect against dust or accidental water exposure.
KMC Perfect Fit are my favorite. They are, well, a perfect fit.
http://www.amazon.com/KMC-pochettes-Barrier-Komainu-Dou-Original/dp/B00NU5F7U0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1457300397&sr=8-1&keywords=kmc+perfect+fit
300 for $10
You've received some great advice. Here's my take (after watching countless hours of the Professor on Tolarian Community College youtube channel).
Good luck! Check out the Professor if you really want to go deep! His 'report card' is great!
Card Storage Report Card
here
https://i.imgur.com/Z2ThVly.jpg
KMC Perfect Fits - are the penny sleeves.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NU5F7U0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Zn6WCbMFND3ZJ
So it looks like the cards are 63.5mm by 88mm.
If I wanted to be parnoid and double sleeve these, I would want to get like this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00NU5F7U0/ref=pd_aw_sbs_21_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=8VQXF982X03W9S802FQJ&dpPl=1&dpID=91M2EcBE4oL
And this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00CJ7415M/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1505029013&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=kmc+sleeves&dpPl=1&dpID=51OK7ekmj2L&ref=plSrch
Does that look right?
Any suggestions on card cases to hold the whole collection? The dragon shield boxes seem to hold 100 or 400 cards, but reviews aren't clear if I can stuff all 300 cards in there double sleeved, since it makes them a bit thicker. Any suggestions on a box that will hold the entire season's set of cards?
Or am I overthinking it and should just get like a generic white cardboard box?
I've been looking for something like this, but I cant find everything I've searched for. When I tried to paste a link to a specific product I'm getting an internal server error. example Does the product have to be sold or fulfilled by Amazon?
https://www.amazon.com/KMC-Barrier-PERFECT-packs-Total/dp/B00T3Z72Q8/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=Kmc+perfect+fit&qid=1566501031&s=gateway&sr=8-2
Purchased this 1000 pack of KMC and they arrived looking legit and I love them. No issues. None of the things you mentioned. These must have been official.
I wonder which sleeves you're using? I mean, you probably are truly out of space given the extra big boxes you have there, but i use these for all my card games no double sleeving, just a simple bit of protection and of course makes the cards easier to shuffle. If you're using thicker sleeves, resleeving them to these KMCs would probably save you a significant portion of space in there.
I completely agree, Upperdeck should release a collectors box. I heard they were going to, it was even confirmed in a youtube video where a developer mentions they were working on that, but... where is it?
CMON UPPER DECK WE WANT AN ORGANIZED GAME!
KMC 100 Card Barrier PERFECT SIZE (10 packs/Total 1000)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T3Z72Q8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_3qmRybJP310D3
I use KMC perfect size and standard size hyper matte. But if you’re going with the kmc standard size, make sure you get the new ones (link below), cause I read their previous ones weren’t the best but they’re fixed now.
Edit:
Perfect size
KMC 100 Card Barrier PERFECT SIZE (10 packs/Total 1000) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T3Z72Q8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_QpeNDbKKBZRJF
Standard size
KMC Full Size Hyper Matte Sleeves (80-Pack), Black, Standard Size, Fits MtG, Weiss, Pokemon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CJ7415M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_lqeNDbTBPBFG3
Or here
The youtuber "the Professor" reccomends KMC Hyper Matte's and double sleeving with them.
The below links lead to amazon bundles of them at a pretty great price.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VCQXQAW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T3Z72Q8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have bought a ton of these.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T3Z72Q8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
They are not great quality sleeves, but I like them because they're clear which is nice to differentiate card types for certain games and allows you to actually see the art. I also use a ton of these sleeves so this is a lot more cost efficient.
The KMC Hyper Mat (Matte) Premiums are probably the less opaque of the KMC brand sleeves. They have a different back texture in comparison to the KMC Hyper Mats (Mattes), but the plastic on the front is slightly more glossy, which slightly clouds viewing (you can still see your card perfectly clear, but it doesn't quite let the foils "pop"). It's super minor, but if you're going for the backs not showing, the different texture does help. I think they come in colors other than black, but you have to look around (Amazon is my reference point). Ask your LGS for them.
You're making a good decision by choosing KMCs, that's for sure. The Premiums also have a great shuffle feel if that helps.
Edit: I should have referenced you to the Professor for further details on the Premiums. As they say, it's never too late.
Also should have said this earlier (and my spelling was bad too...that's what happens when I reddit before my AM coffee), but I use these sleeves and have never had an issue with seeing the backs of cards with them. I believe they are the Premiums, but I could be wrong. They have the gloss and texture, so I'm assuming they're Premiums. If they have the same type of plastic in white as they do in black, you shouldn't have an issue with seeing your cards. I use KMCs for everything and they work wonderfully with my double faced cards. I'd recommend them to anyone. My buddy who uses Dragon Shields shuffled with my cards and couldn't stop for a solid hour (I have weird friends). He couldn't believe how they can pull off double sleeving so well and how nicely they shuffled. So there's that upside plus the visibility. Judges seem to like them.
@OP... I've been doing some research online and you may find this helpful. I found Tolarian Community College browsing YouTube and although his videos are pretty cheesy and aimed for MTG, a lot of the same principles for card storage apply since MTG and PTCG both use the same standard size cards. After watching almost 80 of his videos (my wife is still laughing at me), I decided to forego my initial plans for storing cards in toploaders. I'll instead be using the toploaders I already bought to sell and trade cards through the mail. The #1 reason why I gave up on toploaders for storage was because the only solution I could find involved commissioning a custom box. I couldn't justify spending the $100's to $1,000's it would require to commission a company like Wyrmwood Quality Gaming Supplies to custom-make a wooden box of sufficient size to store toploaders.
The new storage solution I decided on was to buy 400 (200x2) KMC perfect fit inner sleeves and 400 KMC Hyper Mattes, plus the DEX Protection Creation Line - Medium Box for storing my play decks, the DEX Binder 12 for storing my personal collection, and the DEX Binder 4 for storing the cards I have available for trade.
Let me know if you find any other solutions for storing toploaders!
Edit: Hidden among his hundreds of videos, I found this which includes a review of Kakapopo cases. It looks like the company stopped selling some of their other products in favor of their A2 Briefcase, B2 Carry Case, and D2 Case Cube. It looks like prices for these products are pretty steep and unfortunately they don't have the best reviews. But it's something!
Dragon Shield Matte Black 100 Protective Sleeves https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WX57O7M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_CFGLzb6978BSG
They also come in completely clear which TachiRana123 uses and a bunch of other colors too
I sleeved them with FFG red, Mini European sleeves.
Additionally, this holds those cards very nicely (even when sleeved): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016X2QV92/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Also, these are fun, and you might find them useful (The large and small cards fit sleeved in this):
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CS104FE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Is Amazon an option?
Looking at it - it should work fine, seems like they'll fit. I'm not too sure on the differences between the two personally, it does seem to be a slightly sturdier sleeve though - so should be fine. I'd say it largely depends on what reasoning you have to sleeve them. If it's for play, I'd get the hard sleeves as opposed to the ones I linked, and if it's for collection I'd go for the linked sleeves.
Personally I put everything into the perfect sleeves linked, then into the official pokemon deck sleeves (the types in the trainer boxes) - though any standard size should work - and then into a binder. This is for collecting purposes - as both the sleeve types I'm using are glossy and clear on the front, whereas both the Perfect Hard Sleeve and the Ultra Pro Sleeves are matte fronts, meaning they dull the shine and clarity of the cards a noticeable amount - but in exchange for being much sturdier.
For pure collection you don't need hard sleeves as their main use is to protect from shuffling and, say, banging around in a deck box. You should binder or topload any cards that are for pure collection purposes, and of course keep them temperate.
Also keep in mind pricing - the packs are each roughly a similar price, but you'll get half of the sleeves per pack if you go Hard Sleeves.
TL;DR If you're planning on going for collectable storage get the cheaper Perfect Fit Normal Sleeves, and some form of glossy standard card sleeve.
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If for play, get the Perfect Fit Hard Sleeves (Look around for pricing maybe) and Ultra Pro Deck Sleeves to get the best level of protection for shuffling and jostling.
I'm using the KMC Perfect Hard sleeves for my player cards and the Ultra Pro Standard Pro-fit sleeves for my encounter cards, agenda and acts decks aswell as location cards.
I just resleeved the deck for this tournament!
The first layer is perfect fits, for which I chose KMC Perfect Hards. The next layer is normal sleeves. I used Pokemon 20th Anniversary sleeves. The third layer is character guards. I used KMC Character Guards (you can get better deals than this). The fourth layer is effectively impossible to purchase now, but they're KMC Strong Hards. I've heard that Broccoli also makes sleeves this size, but I have no first-hand experience with that.
Stanley click and connect box with two small add ons, a small Plano for tokens to go in the top, and a binder with bcw pages for alllll of your cards. The small Plano linked below fits right in the top box under the lid. All of the items I linked are cheaper elsewhere so look around.
Stanley Hand Tools STST19900 Click & Connect 2-in-2 Deep Tool Box And Organizer https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBJ8GBF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fO5Jzb09HFDPF
Plano Moldings #3600-20 Utility Stowaway Organizer https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C9ZULAI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_EO5Jzb87B9K82
BCW Pro 8-Pocket - Multiple Size Pockets - (20 Ct. Pack) - For Star Wars Armada https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IUG071W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_.O5Jzb78K68WQ
BCW PRO 16-POCKET PAGE - TOPLOAD - (20 CT. PACK) FOR X-WING AND ARMADA UPGRADES https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018OM5MGC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_qP5Jzb35MB5SB
And regular magic card size sleeves for pilots and big admirals.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IUG071W/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 These are custom sized to fit Armada ship cards alongside their titles.
This is what they look like loaded up: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vXqwyBP0oIU/WP6v5sTZ7mI/AAAAAAAAC5Q/YSlU70Md3Q0bxaPotUctqYQ0nyDJyfq8QCLcB/s1600/20170424_204348.jpg
I have never had a dragon shield matte break or even bend on me. Occasionally I'll get light scratching on the clear side, but that's about the worst that happens.
If you double-sleeve, try [perfect fit hards] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HLTUD5Y). I can't personally testify for their quality, but I've heard great things about them for foils.
Finally, make sure you have one of those silica gel packets (ya know, the little white packets that say "do not eat") in your box. They remove moisture from the atmosphere and help keep foils from bending. Make sure to change that out every 3-4 months, depending on what climate you live in.
Un-warping is really tricky. It may be faster and easier to double sleeve in perfect fit hards like these: https://www.amazon.com/KMC-Supplies-Sleeves-Collectible-Cards/dp/B01HLTUD5Y
I use them for Magic decks with foils and they do a good job of keeping a uniform flatness.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01HLTUD5Y/ref=sxts_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1525437842&sr=1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65
You will thank me later
BCW Pro 8-Pocket - Multiple Size Pockets - (20 Ct. Pack) - For Star Wars Armada
Fair number of options.
I'm looking at getting Dominion - would anyone mind confirming how many cards come in the 2nd ed of the game? And would these sleeves fit?
Many thanks.
Here you go. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002TT3N4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
KMC Perfect Fit. Like the name, they're just the right size, and they're really high quality, too.
I actually double-sleeved them (put the card in one upside down and in the other right side up) with the matching KMC Hyper Mats (you might need to be careful to get the ones with the clear backs). It ends up being a little pricey but nothing compared to the cost of filling out the card set!
https://smile.amazon.com/Perfect-Barrier-Sleeves-Piece-Clear/dp/B0007N7PB2?sa-no-redirect=1
If you are worried about space or you want to overprotect your cards, like if you play daily, I would suggest putting on the KMC Perfect Fit sleeves and then putting your Dragon Shields on. It makes the cards a bit thicker, but they are well protected. When you do it you put the KMC sleeves on upside down. http://www.amazon.com/KMC-pochettes-Barrier-Perfect-Sleeves/dp/B0007N7PB2
You need two different kinds of sleeves. One is commonly called the "perfect fit" sleeve. That goes upside-down over your card. Then you insert your card top-side up into the normal sleeve.
example of a perfect fit brand I use.
KMC - Perfect Fit
When I played in middle school I kept my decks wrapped in rubber bands and I'd carry them that way in my pocket, and keep them that way in a little cardboard box in under my bed. Luckily I never owned any good cards because the condition of those cards is awful now (but the first rare I ever pulled is still in the back of my binder).
Anyway this is what I use now, with the cards sleeved in these and these.
I use a KMC Perfect Fit to protect the inside as well as a Dragon Shield clear sleeve for the outer sleeve. It is a bit pricey to use this method but it offers the best protection with a water resistant seal that will not require the mane character to be pulled out every time it flips.
They are these which I suppose are KMCs. What issue do you have?
https://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Barrier-Sleeves-Piece-Clear/dp/B0007N7PB2
I use Paladin's standard sleeves and also perfect barrier sleeves.
The perfect barrier sleeves are amazing value to price, and they're a lot easier to get than the paladin sleeves
Edit: also in case anyone is interested I use these coin sleeves in a trade binder for easy gear and settlement item management
binder I use:link
Sleeves I use: link link
I double sleeve my cards then put them in the binder. Ultra pro sleeves in my opinion are very cheaply made and poor quality.
for the full size cards? I use KMC perfect fit sleeves + Dragon Shield sleeves.
https://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Barrier-Sleeves-Piece-Clear/dp/B0007N7PB2/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1536991219&sr=8-4&keywords=kmc+perfect+fit
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https://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Shield-Protective-Sleeves-100-Pack/dp/B000P0SY44/ref=sr_1_1?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1536991242&sr=1-1&keywords=dragon+shield+clear
Are you thinking something like this? As far as I know you only get them if you custom order a sleeve set first. Unless you mean KMC Perfect fits and any other brand of sleeves
So are they the same size as the original? Would this pack of card sleeves work well?:
https://www.amazon.com/KMC-pochettes-Barrier-Perfect-Sleeves/dp/B0007N7PB2
What exactly does that mean? I saw that and was confused. Did that mean use them over things like this?
so this for the inner sleeves?
Get the Japanese perfect fits, not the ultrapro. Dragon shield are fine. I use them too, also kmc matte sleeves are great. Just double sleeve your decks, prevents the slipping you're experiencing and protects them better. Also makes it safer and easier to move cards from deck to binder to another deck.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0007N7PB2
Dunno where you are, but I recently took a punt on these from Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01CYZCAWE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
500 sleves for < £20 and they are great quality and feel great. I don't double sleeve my cards and I love the clear sleeves as they let you see the archon art. They feel good in the hand and, honestly, I can't tell the difference between these and the Dragon shield sleeves I used originally.
Hello. I'm not an active player of the card game and never was (except some older videogame titles), but I recently stumbled upon the Legendary Decks II box and bought it because of nostalgia.
After researching for some time which are the best protective sleeves, I bought the Standard Clear ones from Dragon Shield. Well, needless to say: it was the wrong size. After further research, it seems that the Dragon Shield Minis would be the right choice.
My question: How do the Minis compare from the feel/look to the Standard ones? I like the Standard ones a lot. And I know what many want to say: "Go with KMC or go homu." Sadly, I live in a part of Europe where KMC Hyper Mat Minis cost 70% more, so they're not an option.
Ultra pro clear is good, but I prefer Dragon Shield Clear https://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Shield-Protective-Sleeves-100-Pack or Dragon Shield Matte Black https://www.amazon.com/Arcane-Tinman-Dragon-Protective-Sleeves/
Perfect fit + Clear Dragon Shields
I should have this copy already since I answer this question every single time:
Double sleeves:
Yugioh size sleeves
Dragon shield clear
Triple sleeves:
latcg clear sleeves
Waifu/standard size sleeves
KMC/other brand character guard oversleeves
Absolutely love the Dragon Shield sleeves. They feel good, and the different color options are great.
https://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Shields-Protective-Sleeves-100-Pack/dp/B000P0SY44
This is what you want. I got this, and I can't be happier. Just sleeve them up before you put the cards in. I used Ultra Pro Sleeves but penny sleeves work just as well!
As others have posted, cheap sleeves might not be what you want. However, to answer your question, penny sleeves may be worth a look. They got their name because you can get ~100 of them for roughly a dollar
Here are 1000 for ~$9
Here's a decent link
Without sleeving? Not much you can do there really except don't allow drinks on a table. 2000 cards using decent penny sleeves will not cost that much. I bought a box of 1000 sleeves for 10 bucks so 20 bucks can sleeve that whole game for you.
https://www.amazon.com/Sleeves-Sleeve-Baseball-Sports-Packaging/dp/B000Y4HI7A/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1486376763&amp;sr=8-9&amp;keywords=card+sleeves
Two of these will sleeve 2000 cards. 3 will probably cover your needs. Now... actually spending the time to sleeve them? Yeah, it will suck and take time but 30 dollars and a few hours sleeving to protect your investment I think is well worth it.
I will say... these sleeves are not the best quality and don't feel good like dime sleeves do... but you get what you pay for. It would cost you $200 to sleeve using Dragon Shield or the like. Myself? Where I am at with sleeving games I buy Dragon Shield for everything. To me, it's worth it. Sure... I spent more on sleeves than the cards cost for Star Realms by my set is slick, easy to shuffle and play and looks great. I have also sleeved all of EPIC and have sleeves for all of my Mage Wars books (10+ of 60+ cards each). So I buy a ton of sleeves.
So for you on a budget? Penny sleeves.
Top loaders for really expensive cards.
I normally use a thick sleeve idk what they are called bit they are normally a solid color or have a picture on them. And place it in a top loader.
Normally it's like 200 for 12$ on Amazon for non brand picture sleeves.
Here are some examples:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009EXIAOC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_S1W0CbVXHYJCF
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XAH0V68/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_a3W0CbJ7H4CV1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EXOH8SK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_J3W0CbTZH0F9D
You can get like 100 top loaders for 12$ as well mine came with 100 penny sleeves as well but idk if they all do.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002K2MNGK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_P4W0Cb5PGHA3V
Side loading binder pages. I just ordered these so I have not tried them but a few people recommended them.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009WU21XI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_q5W0CbP9G2VV0
I store my bulk in MTG fat packs or in the pokemon world what would be elite trainer boxes.
I also have like 1000 penny sleeves laying around just in case:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000Y4HI7A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_d8W0Cb5DZ0CTX
I just use old binder I used when I was kid or your can just go to any office supply store and get three ring binders for a few dollars.
http://www.amazon.com/Sleeves-Sleeve-Baseball-Sports-Packaging/dp/B000Y4HI7A
Penny sleeves here work out to be less than a penny.
http://www.amazon.com/Sleeves-Sleeve-Baseball-Sports-Packaging/dp/B000Y4HI7A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1381313045&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=card+sleeves+10+ten+packs
These are the ones I got for my cards. 10 packs of 100 sleeves (1,000 sleeves altogether) for 8-9 bucks. They are a bit oversized on the yugioh card itself, nothing to hard to manage though.
http://imgur.com/ELUkYzD&amp;IozX1fK
http://imgur.com/ELUkYzD&amp;IozX1fK#1
I sleeve all of the cards for card and board games. They start to show wear very quickly and my grandfather always bends the cards whenever he puts them down in Ascension.
I use very basic cheap penny sleeves to protect the cards. They're very slippy and can be irritating to shuffle but with so many cards and so many different games they do the job effectively.
https://www.amazon.com/Sleeves-Sleeve-Baseball-Sports-Packaging/dp/B000Y4HI7A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1521144187&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=penny+sleeves
Here is an example of 1500 black matte sleeves. They come to about 3 cents/sleeve.
Here is an example of penny clear sleeves.
The nice thing about the black ones is that it hides the back of the card. There are times when that is very useful.
I also found an example of the smaller sleeves
There could be better bulk prices. These are fairly quick searches but we have been happy with the black matte at that amount & price range.
You’ve got some good cards there, especially for just starting out. I recommend putting the better cards such as the McDavid, Tkachuk, Larkin, etc rookie cards into a penny sleeve and top loader or a one touch case.
Penny Sleeve
top loader
One Touch Card Protector
I like these: 1000 Ultra Pro Sleeves.
I've never had any problem with durability, and it's tough to do better than < penny per sleeve.
I second penny sleeves. I use these---$8.25/1000.
Pros:
Cons:
Also as /u/Torvax said, Pathfinder ACG does have "many piles" :). But none are that large during actual play, and I have no problem with keeping cards stacked or anything.
tl;dr: penny sleeves are the only option that makes economic sense for Pathfinder ACG. I recommend either them, or no sleeves at all.
edit 2: sigh, I didn't answer either of your questions. The first one I don't know, the second...you'll need about 500 for the core set, and each adventure deck thereafter (of which there are five) adds 110 cards. I believe the Character add-on deck is also 110.
edit 3: AAAAGGGHHHH A THIRD EDIT! I forgot...another nice thing about the cheap sleeves: the player cards are actually designed to be written on (WHAAAT?) when you "level up" skills etc (tick boxes to check off). With the penny sleeve you can just Sharpie on that damned sleeve and a) not ruin your card and b) just grab another sleeve if you make a mistake or change you mind or something.
i did that and found they moved too much.
I wish I had just printed them on normal stock and put them in top loaders, instead of having them print on card stock and then putting them in top loaders.
http://www.amazon.com/3x4-Top-Loaders-Ultra-Pro/dp/B002K2MNGK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1462683068&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=card+top+loaders
I've not sent amiibo cards out, but I did sell a lot of Magic the Gathering cards in the past, if you're really worried about the cards getting damaged, you can pick up a pack of toploaders, they're hard plastic sleeves that you place cards into, after that, the standard bubble wrap or bubbled envelope fairs perfectly.
it's probably better than nothing, just don't bang the tin around and mess up the edges. obviously you don't want to do it forever, in case moisture makes it's way in, or if it can rust. Still the best possible thing would be to put them in card sleeves and then in a rigid top loader card holder if you want to keep them pristine.
What's the best way to make sure my record collection lasts a long time? Is it fine to just store them on a shelf as is in a cool area? Or is it advised to store each in their own polypropylene sleeves like these here? New to collecting so I want to make sure I'm doing everything right.
Also cleaning. Am I good with just one of those brushes like this? Or do I need some spray too?
What's up guys. Can you tell me if these are acceptable outer sleeves
https://www.amazon.com/RPM-Record-Sleeves-100-Count/dp/B003NG2WIG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1501362162&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=outer+sleeves+for+vinyl+records
and are these OK for the records themselves
https://www.amazon.com/Mobile-Fidelity-Inner-Sleeves-50Pk/dp/B001LQSFKY/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1439516868&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=Lp+inner+sleeve&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=that0d-20&amp;linkId=286ac682a88a418ffcd09f9797dfff7a
Thanks all!
Do yourself a favor and buy yourself record sleeves
http://www.amazon.com/RPM-Record-Sleeves-100-Count/dp/B003NG2WIG/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1454131617&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=record+sleeves
They'll keep your sleeves from getting ringwear like you see with records in the dollar bins.
I think they're just called record sleeves. That's all I've seen them called.
https://www.amazon.com/RPM-Record-Sleeves-100-Count/dp/B003NG2WIG
I hang four records on the wall and change them out once a week. I also store all my albums in individual plastic sleeves.
So when four are on the wall, I take the records out, put them back in the plastic sleeves and put them back in my bins.
I use these to store/protect my albums:
www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003NG2WIG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1395066254&sr=8-1
I picked up these dividers and they have worked perfectly for that purpose:
http://www.amazon.com/Packs-BCW-Trading-Divider-Dividers/dp/B005LIF20O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1397944241&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=bcw+dividers
Apparently BCW has their own foam pads for boxes too, but I haven't tried them:
http://www.amazon.com/BCW-Monster-Pads-20-Pads-Pack/dp/B001OOR4MI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1397944316&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=bcw+pads
I got myself one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/BCW-500-Count-Box/dp/B00HGMSYM6
and the base set just fits into such a box, I use plastic dividers:
http://www.amazon.com/Packs-BCW-Trading-Divider-Dividers/dp/B005LIF20O
to separate the cards
Ps got these
(10) Packs of BCW Brand Trading Card Divider Cards(100 Dividers Total) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005LIF20O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_GPtUAbA04ZACW
Get a shapie pen and can write our villain groups, henchmen, heroes, etc on the top of them and they work really well to separate cards
I keep player cards in an Avery Heavy Duty Binder and Ultra Pro Platinum pages -
http://www.amazon.com/Avery-Nonstick-Heavy-Duty-Reference-79193/dp/B000FH1J6M/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1381681145&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=avery+heavy+duty
http://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-9-Pocket-Trading-Pages/dp/B00095M5DQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1381681190&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=ultra+pro+platinum+pages
The encounter cards I keep sleeved in a BCW 1600 card box, with BCW dividers between each set -
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LIF20O/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
http://www.coolstuffinc.com/p/146014
I don't keep the player cards sleeved, since my decks for this game rarely change and I tend to use expensive sleeves for my games (KMC Hyper Mat Clears). The Encounter Decks I keep sleeved in cheaper FFG clear sleeves so that I can set up a game quickly.
Ultra pro like these?
And then what brand/type would you use for the inner sleeve if double sleeved?
i'd just buy a pre-constructed (pre-con) deck
Don't forget sleeves and a deck box
In the end, it'll probably cost about the same as it would collecting each of the singles for whatever you come up with. These are also pre-built and tested by wotc.
Find a method that is most convenient for you and allows you to make and alter cards as quickly as possible.
What works for me:
I use 3x5 index cards cut in half for my initial prototypes. Once I want a higher quality prototype I use multideck for mac. Multideck takes csv datasources for card content and then you use a wysiwyg editor for card layout. I then print the cards on regular printer paper and cut them with a guillotine paper cutter. Cutting was the biggest time sink for me, so I think a good paper cutter is essential. Once cut, I sleeve the cards with a magic card as a back to make them sturdy. One last tip: If you are going to sleeve your cards, make the layout of the cards you print slightly smaller than the sleeve you plan to put it in.
Links to resources mentioned above:
edit: lists are hard
While you may not be pricing the cards, using the pricing guide on tcgplayer.com is a good place to start organizing specific sets. It can also give you a general market value for all conditions as you are organizing. If you see the market value on a specific card is much higher than others in the set, you should consider protecting that one with penny and hard sleeves(or depending on the card, perhaps more than that). If you are going to store your cards in binders, i recommend these sleeves for inside sleeves and these sleeves for the outside soft sleeve prior to putting in a binder like this or like this.
I've printed cards on colored cardstock before but there are a few problems with it from my perspective. First, it's not exactly the right weight. Second, cutting them properly is more difficult than cutting paper. And third, they're pricier than plain paper printing so it's more risky.
For me the most cost effective method for printing has been using nanDeck to set the layout and make the PDFs. I print on standard printer paper and put them in sleeves. They're a little of an investment, but you can re-use them for a very long time.
I buy these cores and these sleeves, they're Bridge Size (2.25x3.5) and come to about $0.0655 apiece for 500:
https://www.amazon.com/Blank-Playing-Cards-Casino-Quality/dp/B01H4CZQ14/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1483337065&amp;sr=8-1
https://www.amazon.com/Chimera-Game-Sleeves-57-5-pack/dp/B0035CYCH2/ref=pd_sim_21_2?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=XCCVAN3KA4F4H0THYQ8P
However, while looking I also found Poker Size (2.5x3.5) for about $0.5618 provided you buy 1000:
https://www.amazon.com/Blank-Playing-Cards-Casino-Quality/dp/B01H4CZQ14/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1483337065&amp;sr=8-1
https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Soft-Sleeves-8-Inches/dp/B00CV859XC/ref=pd_sim_21_34?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=XCCVAN3KA4F4H0THYQ8P
You could likely find 'em cheaper by looking for the best deals all over.
Not an expert, but I've been using these ones and they've been working well.
These are the ones that I use and I live them. Feel tight on the cards and cheaper. Ultra Pro 100 Pcs Soft Card Sleeves, 2 5/8 x 3 5/8-Inches (5 Pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CV859XC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_clxRAbAKEM6JE
To be clear, are these the ones you're talking about? (I'm totally new to card sleeves and want to make sure I get the right ones.)
https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Soft-Sleeves-8-Inches/dp/B00CV859XC/
Is this what they refer to as penny sleeves? https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Soft-Sleeves-8-Inches/dp/B00CV859XC/ref=pd_bxgy_200_3?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=P0QWDAAVZ87NHMDYM735
I think it was these
I will be the first to admit that they are cheap sleeves and probably not intended for gaming but they are inexpensive and so I can have all my cards in my collection sleeved and not resleeve when they go in or out of my decks. I keep everything in the Core box but organized well enough that I can find any card I need quickly.
I bought these: https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Protectors-Sleeves-Standard-Colors/dp/B00HOI5KSS/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1518713227&amp;sr=8-9&amp;keywords=ultra+pro+sleeves
Good price and great quality.
Do you find that the ultra pro sleeves just barely cover the top of your cards? I find that there's barely any room between the top of the sleeve and the top of the card, and I'm always worried that will lead to more wear and tear on the top end of the card. But then again, I got the ultra pro clear deck protector sleeves, so the size may be different.
Ultra pro are some of the better value sleeves I think. The ones you got don't sound like they are the standard ultra pro sleeves I've seen though.
I have bought a couple of packs of these and they are probably the best bang for the buck I've been able to find.
(600x) Ultra PRO Clear Deck Protectors Sleeves Standard MTG Colors https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HOI5KSS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_HNOGdYNz2KJrr
Play with what you have for a bit first, don't add in everything right away. I would stay away from penny protectors. My personal go to are https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HOI5KSS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I purchase these and have done at least three orders. Very happy with the results. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HOI5KSS/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I am indeed new to this! I guess I'll pick up sleeves when I find a storage situation. https://smile.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Clear-Protector-Sleeves-2-Packs/dp/B00I4O16K2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1485018054&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=clear+card+sleeves
Do you mean sleeves like those?
Do those long boxes hold sleeved cards? The pictures I'm looking at online look kind of tight with bare cards?
Are there long boxes but not cardboard? It's pretty likely that the box is going to end up passed around the same table as several cups of coffee and tea.
These ones: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I4O16K2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_iKqNybEJP3JRX
Buy Ultra Pro Clear Sleeve. You can buy a pack of 100 for like 6 bucks off eBay or Amazon. It has a little circle on the bottom but it doesn't interfere.
200 pack for 10 bucks: https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Clear-Protector-Sleeves-2-Packs/dp/B00I4O16K2/ref=pd_sbs_21_1?_encoding=UTF8&amp;pd_rd_i=B00I4O16K2&amp;pd_rd_r=YH5YG7CCNY4F6ZB2270W&amp;pd_rd_w=oGW9r&amp;pd_rd_wg=NyoJ8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=YH5YG7CCNY4F6ZB2270W
Just the standard clear sleeves. AS GossamerSolid said, the dot/logo is still there but it is basically transparent.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I4O16K2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I use these sleeves: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00I4O16K2/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1502868965&amp;sr=8-6&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&amp;keywords=Ultra+pro+sleeves&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=41w5Ekv8MWL&amp;ref=plSrch
In this binder:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00VTDX68A/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1502869068&amp;sr=8-8&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&amp;keywords=Ultra+pro+binder&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=31Kp0j45RiL&amp;ref=plSrch
I chose the sleeves because they are durable and transparent on both sides so you don't have to take the card out of the sleeve to look at the back. The binder is also good for valuable cards because 1. of the way it folds 2. the cards are not back to back to each other 3. the pockets are loaded from the side not the top so they can't slide out easily. The only downside is that it starts to bend slightly when there are 480 cards + sleeves.
i just picked up one of these and love it. nice hard outer casings.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JNT0L80/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Sorry I'm a little confused, are you offering the KMC Hyper Matte Black or the KMC Perfect Fit, I'd trade for either but I'm more interested in the Hyper Mattes.
I use these sleeves, and they work great. KMC 100 pochettes Card Barrier Perfect Size Soft Sleeves are what they're called.
Here's the link: https://www.amazon.com/KMC-pochettes-Barrier-Komainu-Dou-Original/dp/B00NU5F7U0
My cards don't slide around at all. They're very snug in the sleeve. I can take a picture for you, if you'd like.
KMCs are ones that Magic players use and should work well as inner sleeves for double sleeving. My personal preference is to use KMC Hyper Mattes and over KMC perfect sleeves for inners.
https://www.amazon.com/KMC-pochettes-Barrier-Komainu-Dou-Original/dp/B00NU5F7U0/ref=pd_lpo_bs_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=E66TXR5758C2MEN8WQ0Q
http://www.potomacdist.com/detail.asp?itemid=kmchmtbdpb#.WOfanG_yt9M
I go through a TON of sleeves for MtG (play pokemon casually), so those are what I use for tournament play and the $56 is well worth it for me.
Edit: If you want to see more about sleeves for reviews, I suggest watching the Professor's channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bu1h0gtu2U&amp;list=PLvqw7t0kbGX9ZlOrr9sqD8zGGPuEIfeBz
Primarily for MtG, but all of the sleeves he reviews generally are kosher for tourney play.
I sleeve all of the tokens my deck uses to protect the surface (for cosmetic and consistency reasons, not because I care about a <$0.01 "card"). I use KMC "perfect fits" because they're cheap in bulk, fit snug to the card, and make the surface more slippery for moving the cards around.
Oh nice, I am totally getting that case. Thanks for the info. I ended up going with these sleves -KMC 100 pochettes Card Barrier Perfect Size Soft Sleeves, 3 Packs
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NU5F7U0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1 They fit the card just right.
for my decks, i typically use art sleeves such as these. since art sleeves have a tendency to be hard to get the same sleeves a year or two down the road, this means i'll pick up an extra pack when i'm making a deck so if sleeves tear on me, i'll be covered.
as such, this means i have plenty of extra sleeves that i can throw in binders. i'll throw my cards in a perfect fit, then throw that in one of my art sleeves, and put that in my side load binder.
I love sleeving cards for my games! Love the feel and I actually double sleeve (these then these for regular sized cards) and generally do it while it while watching TV some night, so it's not like I have to give up time to sleeve.
really....? http://www.ultrapro.com/product_info.php?products_id=1075 i have these kinds that i use for all my rares/holos/full arts... ALSO, i recently ordered these yesterday because i heard their were perfect for the Rares: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NU5F7U0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Should i switch to the KMC Perfect fits when they arrive and avoid the Ultra Pro sleeves then?
It’s better to get perfect fit cards meant for double sleeving which would fit inside of traditional sleeves. The advantage is that if any liquid spills the double sleeved cards won’t be affected at all. It has saved my ass so I double sleeve important cards and the deck I play with.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00NU5F7U0/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1525730862&amp;sr=8-4&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&amp;keywords=perfect+fit
hello friend, that's awesome that you have your own copy of MK. Are you shuffling cards via bending method? If so I'd try to stray from that if possible.
The KMC perfect fit sleeves are amazing.Here's the exact amazon like to the ones I ordered. There are 240 cards so this gives you 60 extra. Link
I'm waiting on coolstuffinc or amazon to stock the Lost Legion
Hey bud, I have an innistrad plane cube for drafting thats pretty sweet. I can go over what I did if it helps at all.
I started with only Innistrad, great Draft environment to use as a base. Then I replaced all of the vanilla creatures or unplayables with another card from DKA, AVR, or SOI that fit the same role but had a relevent ability or stats. (Ex. a 2/2 zombie for 1b that had no abilities was replaced by a 2 mana zombie in the same rarity with more relevent abilities)
Right now the cube is about:
50% INN
20% DKA
10% AVR
20% SOI
Im trying to recreate a draft environment so I manueally create packs and put them in team bags (https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Poly-Team-Bags/dp/B00095NR1K) to have them ready for each draft.
The slits for common, uncommon and rares is (5/3/1)
I keep flip cards seperate, the are split (3/2/1)
When I make packs I shuffle all the commons together, then repeat for uncommons, rares, and Flip cards.
Each pack is 9 Commons,3 uncommon, 1 rare, 1 flip card, and 1 land. The land could be any nonbasic land from any Innistrad set, put in for fixing and utility.
Right now my rares can be from any set and are pretty balanced, nothings unbeatable.
I also keep the flip cards in clear hypermattes while drafting and playing, but I have a checklist for each in a black sleave for proxying in the deck.
It is alot of sleaves and the cube fits a normal 2 row. But if you buy bulk, its not too bad. Heres where I got mine (https://www.amazon.com/KMC-Barrier-PERFECT-packs-Total/dp/B00T3Z72Q8/ref=sr_1_2?s=toys-and-games&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1465811659&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=perfect+fits, https://www.amazon.com/KMC-Hyper-Matte-Sleeves-Sheets/dp/B0177K3VU6/ref=sr_1_1?s=toys-and-games&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1465811692&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=kmc+hyper+matte+10)
If you have any questions or I wasnt clear just let me know.
Sorry about the formatting in advance!
Buy perfect sleeves and a size larger of sleeves, dragon shield or the like, and then place them into binder sleeves in cool dry places.
Edit: And by perfect, I mean the perfect fit sleeves, these ones:
https://www.amazon.com/KMC-Barrier-PERFECT-packs-Total/dp/B00T3Z72Q8/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=perfect+card+sleeves&amp;qid=1551300997&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-5
https://www.amazon.com/KMC-Barrier-PERFECT-packs-Total/dp/B00T3Z72Q8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1527696059&sr=8-2&keywords=perfect+fit
This is likely the best price you are going to get on Perfect fits. Its about what you are going to pay for 4 packs of perfect fits at a store.
As for sleeves, i would be using dragonshield matte sleeves or kmc hypermatte sleeves.
The best price on dragonshield sleeves is going to be at starcity games open events at about 8$ per box of 100. But you can get them for 10-11 at local game stores in the likely situation that you aren't particularly close to an open.
For all my double sleeved permanent decks I use Dragon Shield Mattes with KMC perfect sizes. Dragon shields are relatively cheap and good quality and KMCs are on amazon for ~$4/100
For my draft sleeves I use ultimate guard katanas. They are lovely sleeves with amazing shuffling feel but they are harder to get/more expensive. Since my draft sleeves are the one pair of sleeves I use more than any other I shell out a bit more for them.
KMC perfect fit sleeves:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T3Z72Q8/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
$23 for 1000 high quality clear sleeves.
I use these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00T3Z72Q8/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_3?smid=A3TCNCNGLOHBSA&amp;psc=1
I sleeved everything with the blue/black/gray back and the act/agenda/locations. Took less than one 1000 pack Didn't do the encounters yet because I'm out of storage space and pondering how to reorganize. I sleeved fuckin everything for gloomhaven. :)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00T3Z72Q8?psc=1&amp;ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
I buy these: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T3Z72Q8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 . I guess that adds $2.78 to the deck cost.
They split sometimes. But usually I double-sleeve, so it's not a problem.
I've used about 20 different sleeves and by far the best bang/buck are KMC Perfect Fits. They are also not as thick making them easier to fit in the box.
www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00T3Z72Q8?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_title
Ok Thanks good to know! Right now for my old Vs system collection I use these ones:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00T3Z72Q8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
They are very nice and transparent, even though they may be slightly too tigh, and the card tend to curve a little. In a 9 page collector after a bit the card adapt to the size, but I am not so fond of using them for cards that I use for gaming.
So I am still not sure. Maybe I will update with a post when I will try more
I usually go by cost. I find that even if you buy the cheaper ones the replacement cost is minimal. I usually have excess of what I use. I think I have primarily Mayday Sleeves with a sprinkling of Fantasy Flight. Also for standard size I buy this once in a while. Bulk pack of decent sleeves (I did Legendary with them, as well as many other Standard size cards)
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00T3Z72Q8/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=AVHN9DUKXMSLU&amp;psc=1
I bought these
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00T3Z72Q8/
I really like them since they fit perfectly and snugly around the cards. The ultra pro standards are a little to big for my liking.
I just bought 4 packs of these KMC Perfect Fit, 4000 sleeves (only 3000 needed but I want to be prepared), as soon as I realized they're the company that makes hypermat sleeves, it was an
instant buy httpsww.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00T3Z72Q8/
KMC Hyper Matte Sleeves Black ×5 Sets (5 Packs/total 400 Sheets) ( Japan Import ) Made in Japan https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VCQXQAW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_kNEJAbKM27CSB
I’ve been ordering these kmc hyper mats from amazon for a year now every time I start to run low. So far no splits.
Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/KMC-Hyper-Matte-Sleeves-Sheets/dp/B00VCQXQAW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1468421850&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=kmc+hyper+matte
Argh. I can't math. I think it's more like $5.40 per 80:
https://www.amazon.com/KMC-Hyper-Matte-Sleeves-Sheets/dp/B00VCQXQAW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473223201&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=kmc+hyper+matte
Here is what I've been buying, first for my cube then later for random decks. 400 KMC Hyper Mattes for ~$20 is hard to beat. People say that KMC quality has dropped, but I haven't noticed with these.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00VCQXQAW/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1526220624&amp;sr=8-6&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&amp;keywords=kmc%2Bsleeves&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=618KNdeE2TL&amp;ref=plSrch&amp;th=1&amp;psc=1. Excellent quality for price. You can get a ten pack too
Dragonshields, matte black with perfect fit sleeves (that load from the top). Load card into sleeve upside down, then put into Dragonshield right-side up.
Then, Ultimate Guard Sidewinder 80+. Five of these fit perfectly into the Ultimate Guard Superhive 550+.
Chessex dice are great for the dice tray. Now, the dice tray in the Superhive is a little awkward, and dice fall out easily or it jams sometimes while trying to pull it out or put it back. So I use a spice bag to hold the dice (also helps make sure they don't just fall everywhere when pulling the tray out, etc.)
And, of course, my two favorite playmats fit in the Superhive as well.
I can't really find pictures of the sleeves themselves either, so if I remember to snap a couple pics when I get home from work in a couple hours I will. There are a ton of colors, but make sure you're getting the ones with the triangular label like the one listed here. Those are the newer, higher-quality ones. The ones with the rectangular label (where it says the color) is older and of lower quality.
Do they mean sleeves like this?
Dragon Shield Matte Black 100 Protective Sleeves https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WX57O7M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_k5z5BbJ4V6VF6
I had a cube of 360 cards and 40 of each land. So I ended up getting 6 boxes of Dragon shields.
https://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Shield-Matte-Protective-Sleeves/dp/B00WX57O7M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1478157459&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=dragon+shield
They are 10.49 a box here on amazon. Each box has 100 sleeves so that gave me enough to sleeve my cube, my lands and had some extras just in case.
I have mine double sleeved with these for perfect fit and these for the outer sleeves. Fits perfectly and feels great to shuffle
Best bet for storing a large lot of cards is cardboard boxes such as those you're seeing online. Anything will do, really. If you're concerned about the long term health of the cards you'll need to keep them in a watertight container in a temperature controlled room.
As for card sleeves, most folks will use one of the following (listed from most to least durable, roughly):
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WX57O7M/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I’ve home printed well over 1000 cards over the last few years. Here’s the supplies I use:
Cheap Standard Playing Cards:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002XO760I/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1527087869&amp;sr=8-6&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&amp;keywords=playing%2Bcards&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=61b7LUzhLiL&amp;ref=plSrch&amp;th=1&amp;psc=1
Dragon Shield sleeves: (better feel, opacity, and no watermark)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00WX57O7M/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1527088164&amp;sr=8-3&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&amp;keywords=dragon+sleeves
Optional new addition, Dragon Shield Smoke sleeves: (Love these things)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06Y1F3N5X/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1527088312&amp;sr=8-2&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&amp;keywords=dragon+shield+smoke
Cutting: Heavy box cutter, metal ruler, cutting surface.
Paper: Prefer 25-30lbs, but really anything. (free is best)
Then: Load all your playing cards backwards into your card sleeves (back pattern of the card showing through the front). Then all you need to do is cut out your paper cards and slide them into the sleeve; easy peasy.
The thing that always bugged me was the numbers and suits showing through the back of the card sleeve, so I would always need to buy black or dark sleeves. You don’t want to turn it around though, because it’s way worse to see those suits showing through your custom card; why you want a nice and simple repeating pattern as to not be destracting. The nice thing about the new smoke sleeves is that you load your playing cards into those then put them into your color sleeve and bam, no more suits showing through the back of your sleeves even with lighter colors.
One recommendation for the smoke sleeves is that you load them upside-down into the color sleeve; that way you can avoid sillyness later when you want to pull out your paper cards.
Earlier this year I saved up and bough 1000 cards, color sleeves, and smoke sleeves, a card box, and spent a day loading them all up and storing them. Really nice to be able to have a bunch of them avalible at anytime. One party, my friends and I just made a silly card game out of the blue and it was great to be able to pull that box out and have a stable way to shuffle and hold the cards (at the time, folded post-its notes).
I found them on Amazon UK, closest to me, for £5.86 and prime availability.
Thanks for your help people.
Link if you're interested:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01CS104FE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_nyvCybFP6GCP1
I use A case or army case because I like magnet solutions
And I use a husky organizer from Home Depot for bits
These are great too https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Guard-Pages-Pocket-Sleeves/dp/B01CS104FE/ref=gp_aw_ybh_a_13?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=Y76VZ2HVBP5J9HH1B6HQ
I have a Battle Foam bag that I use for transporting whatever minis I'm using, and then the rest of my minis get stored in Plano tackle storage containers. My dice and tokens go in a smaller Plano container that fits in the front pocket of my Battle Foam bag. My cards go in these: https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Guard-Pages-Pocket-Sleeves/dp/B01CS104FE/ref=pd_rhf_ee_s_rp_c_0_4/146-1777481-1254310?_encoding=UTF8&amp;pd_rd_i=B01CS104FE&amp;pd_rd_r=9d6f0972-32f7-4251-b4cb-92737b717bc1&amp;pd_rd_w=7prSU&amp;pd_rd_wg=lrBnI&amp;pf_rd_p=08488724-755c-4f52-8612-2237abee1792&amp;pf_rd_r=7QV4PCAJ5JV8PPEFMEJD&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=7QV4PCAJ5JV8PPEFMEJD
with this binder: https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Guard-Supreme-Compact-Sleeves/dp/B01CS10602/ref=pd_bxgy_21_img_2/146-1777481-1254310?_encoding=UTF8&amp;pd_rd_i=B01CS10602&amp;pd_rd_r=ff240fbf-0c84-4a69-a8e6-35dcddf6c9b0&amp;pd_rd_w=kZv1W&amp;pd_rd_wg=ZVNEQ&amp;pf_rd_p=a2006322-0bc0-4db9-a08e-d168c18ce6f0&amp;pf_rd_r=DEBAWC18GGTMM6VZHP08&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=DEBAWC18GGTMM6VZHP08
I can't recommend that card storage solution enough, because you can keep your unit cards and their relevant upgrade cards all on the same page, and then just flip any upgrade cards you aren't using face-down, and keep everything in the pages during your games. Makes setting up and putting away much easier, and misplacing cards a lot less likely.
Speaking of the 32 pocket ones, here's the exact pages you wanted on Amazon. https://smile.amazon.com/Pages-Pocket-Stand-Sleeves-Piece/dp/B01CS104FE/ref=wl_mb_wl_huc_mrai_1_dp
I got a set of these sleeves for tournament play (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01CS104FE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1) and am really liking the idea of horizontal ship cards. Might have to make some alt arts myself by the next tournament.
I found some at a local game store (used for xwing miniatures) for a fairly good price. They are listed on amazon but kind of expensive.
Link to buy the sleeves for the three ring binder on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Platnium-Imperial-sizedCards/dp/B01CTY7LT2/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=ultra+pro+star+wars+upgrade&amp;qid=1554422824&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-3
> Ultra-Pro 16 slot American mini pages
These?
https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Platnium-Imperial-sizedCards/dp/B01CTY7LT2/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01CTY7LT2?psc=1&amp;ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_title
I ordered this once, and have a few spare pages.
For that number of cards, I'd actually use something like this, with cards in penny sleeves (3-4 cards can fit in a single penny sleeves, to save on cost). You may consider folding and taping the opening of the penny sleeve so cards so slip out, but I think this would be the most cost effective way to do things. Plus, you could print shipping labels to put directly on the card storage box, while also taping it closed.
While this won't protect you from heavy weather, I don't think I'd mind receiving a large bulk of cards like this.
The other option, that I just remembered CardKingdom uses, are hinged hard plastic card cases similar to these. This plus a bubble mailer is what I've gotten from them on larger orders. And I think if the majority of my cards were $1-$2 rares, but I had a lot of them, I'd like them in this.
You do know these exist, right?
I use this, it holds playsets of your valuable cards, doesn't have rings to fuck your cards up and has a stiff front unlike the ultra pro binders which can bend and damage your cards.
Now to be clear, binders, while convenient for accessing your cards are not ideal for keeping them in perfect condition. Sleeved and in a box such as an elite trainer box or a BCW box is the ideal way to prevent any damage to your cards.
As for commons and uncommons storing them unsleeved in a BCW 4 or 5 row is more than sufficient since you will accumulate a large amount of them over time.
Someone else in the thread mentioned the Ultimate Guard ZipFolio which is honestly probably the best binder out there, im just not interested in moving all of my cards from the binders they are currently in.
http://www.amazon.com/KMC-pochettes-Barrier-Perfect-Sleeves/dp/B0007N7PB2