(Part 2) Best pc game controllers according to redditors

I spent way too much time on this, but let's see how your claim plays out.

2. Akai MPK249 $400
2. Yamaha P71 $415
3. 21.5 inch iMac $1100 (although this is the base model, probably a good estimate)
3. Edifier R1280T Near Field Monitors $99
5. Asus 24" monitor $130x5=$650
4. Logitech G27 I'm going to say around $300, even though Amazon has it listed for nearly $1000. Seems like the MSRP a few years ago was $300-$400.

1. Logitech G Saitek X52 Flight Control System $150
   
2. Logitech C600 $30
   
3. Opolar F401 $12
   
4. Logitech G610 $90, although some versions on amazon are closer to $60
   
5. (I couldn't figure out what the other keyboard is, but it's probably junk that the OP didn't spend a lot of money on.)
   
6. Logitech Z623 $100 (I think these are right)
   
7. HTC Vive $500
   
8. Logitech Z-2300 $180 MSRP, I'm fairly certain that I'm wrong about this one though
   
9. Wireless Xbox Controller $42
   
   Add in like $1000 for each desk and $2000 for each computer we don't see (assuming there are two), that gets us to a total of $11,068.
   
   There is a laptop bag stashed on the left side of the frame, so maybe it's a $9000 laptop.

Thanks!

I bought this set of controls, an Open-Box 24" monitor from my local MicroCenter, and everything else was pretty standard, i.e. regular Raspberri Pi, a cheap case for it, the cheapest speakers I could find on Amazon, etc

Good eye! That's a bit odd considering the amazon listing even has it in there as "logitech".

Kinda sucks but with everything I read about these things I opted in for the $4/4 year protection plan through amazon. Couldn't hurt, right?

Decided to post links for you homies

Rasberry Pi - https://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-Model-1-2GHz-64-bit-quad-core/dp/B01CD5VC92/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1510033686&sr=1-1&keywords=raspberry+pi+3

Controller - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018K3Q4KS/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Tie - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072MDHQ4F/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Boxes - https://www.etsy.com/transaction/1334722320

For anyone wondering, it's a T300 RS wheel, TH8A Shifter and T3PA pedal set. All from Thrustmaster. The chair is a Challenge from Playseat. And a PSVR, obviously.

Edit: /u/StephenSchleis requested that I add Amazon links, so here you go.

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300RS-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-Racing/dp/B00O8B7D02/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480328681&sr=8-1&keywords=T300+RS

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-TH8A-Add-Gearbox-Shifter-Xbox/dp/B005L0Z2BQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480328694&sr=8-1&keywords=TH8A+Shifter

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T3PA-3-Pedal-Wide-Pedal-Add/dp/B00KX75W9O/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1480328694&sr=8-4&keywords=TH8A+Shifter

https://www.amazon.com/Playseat-Challenge/dp/B009ZELZDS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480328735&sr=8-1&keywords=playseat+challenge

Bonus tip, the T3PA pedals come with the conical brake mod. It’s well worth installing. Also, cut out a piece of carpet and stick it to the pedal base for a bit of extra comfort.

Seriously! I didn't actually see it advertised anywhere, and had to search for Tekken last night and it was surprisingly 50% off! I've been really interested in DBFighterz but couldn't justify dropping $60+ the price of a stick on a game I might not enjoy, as I haven't played a fighting game in probably 5 years, and don't own a gamepad currently.

Bought this half awake at 1am on Steam 50% off, went on Amazon and found This Qanba Carbon Stick with "free overnight" (technically same day) delivery, and just got it about 30 minutes ago! All things considered, $85 is not a bad entry price for what is arguably the most solid/consistent PC fighting game right now, from what i've read.

As many people have mentioned, Star Citizen is still an in-development title, and there are lots of bugs and will likely continue to be lots of bugs for quite a while.

That being said, there are lots of people who are OK with this and are able to enjoy themselves, some fall on the other end of the spectrum and get really frustrated so it's worth keeping in mind that there is a 14 day refund policy. If you or he decides you aren't satisfied with your purchase, you can submit for a refund at any time in that 14 day window.

If you're still with us and you want to go ahead and buy him something, here's four strong options for you to consider:

1) Buy the Mustang Alpha Starter Package for $45 - https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Packages/Mustang-Alpha-Starter-Pack

2) Buy the Mustang Alpha Starter Package for $45 - https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Packages/Mustang-Alpha-Starter-Pack

Then upgrade it to an Avenger Titan using this $20 CCU (Cross Chassis Upgrade is an item that you will find in your hangar on the website after purchase and can then apply it to the Mustang Alpha to convert it into an Avenger Titan) - https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Upgrades/Mustang-Alpha-To-Avenger-Titan-Upgrade

Most players in Star Citizen have owned at one point, or currently own an Avenger because it is incredibly versatile for its price allowing you to do both combat and hauling stuff while not being paper thin. It's also the one I'd recommend the most for him. He can always use the CCU system to upgrade his ship to something else later once he has a better idea of what he wants to do.

3) If he's likely to mainly do combat, then perhaps the Arrow would be a good choice $90 - https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Packages/Anvil-Arrow-Starter-Pack

It will be noticeably more combat capable than the Avenger Titan, but it doesn't have any cargo space. It is a very popular ship right now for combat pilots.

4) If you really want to splurge, then get the Cutlass Black Package $115 - https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Packages/Cutlass-Black

The Cutlass Black is larger than all the other mentioned ships and it's the first real offering that gives you decent multi-crew features. It has an interior you can walk around in with a couple beds (beds are used for logging off if you're out in space instead of at a station), It has a good sized cargo bay that's great for traders. It has a copilot seat which can be used by a second person to help manage shields etc..

It also comes with a turret for some extra firepower. It has plenty of teeth, and you can't really go wrong with it.

 

If he really ends up liking the game, he should look into picking up some flight hardware (Joysticks etc..). I'd recommend either the t16000m FCS HOTAS $130

Or the dual t16000m setup $115

You can also just buy a single t16000m joystick for around $60 and then buy a second one later. They can be flipped to lefty pretty easily, so don't feel like you need to buy two right away.

In terms of bang for buck, there is no contest compared to these in the budget arena. I personally fly with two sticks, some people prefer the stick plus throttle.

 

In closing, my personal advice would be to buy him the Mustang Alpha ($45) and the CCU to the Avenger Titan ($20), then tell him you'll contribute X dollars towards some flight hardware (Joystick/throttle etc) or further ship CCU's once he knows what he wants.

Best of luck on your decision making!

Link for controller: https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B01MQ5NK5Y?th=1&psc=1

Normally retails on Amazon for $250. Looks like it dropped to $150 sometime last spring.
https://camelcamelcamel.com/Thrustmaster-T150-PRO-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/product/B06XP1JZ53

Raspberry Pi 3 comes with built in WiFi and built in Bluetooth. You can get a nice Bluetooth controller from Amazon for ~$36USD. I have two of these as well as a wired USB retro SNES controller.

You can visit Retropie's website and download a working image as well as get very detailed instructions on how to get it up and running. This is how I got my first one set up and had it up and running in under an hour. They really do have some great documentation. For this you will need Win32 Disk Imager. It allows you to write an operation system image file to a SD card. Sounds more complicated that it really is. Download the image, run disk imager, pick the image you want to write, pick the SD card you want to write to, and press the Write button. When it is done, pop it in the pi and power it up. Boom, you now have a working raspberry pi system.

Know and understand how to SSH into your Raspberry Pi. For Windows I recommend downloading WinSCP. SSH can be used to update the OS, upgrade the firmware, and push ROM files to the pi. Adafruit also has an amazing line of tutorials to help you get up to speed.

Use MonoPrice for your cables and such. They are so much cheaper that big box stores.

The greatest thing about the Raspberry Pi is that if you make a mistake, you can easily re-apply the image to your SD card and start over. When I was first getting started I ended up doing this a lot. I learned a lot from my mistakes and learned to search Google/YouTube to see how somebody else solved the problems.

Lastly, I found this incredible group on Facebook that has posts of builds as well as tips and tricks to getting your setup working.

Hope this helps. Enjoy getting into the world of Raspberry Pi. I know I have, I now have three at home all doing different things.

I had a similiar issue, my old stick was naturally a little loose and hyper sensitive, so just resting my hand on it caused it to input roll because it was loose enough that the idle weight of my tiny little hands was moving it. This resulted in having to make the deadzones WAY bigger than I wanted them to be.

If you're in the market for a new controller heres some options from least to most expensive as well as amazon links for buying them.

Xbox 360 Pad: $28

• Pros: CHEAP, works, comfortable
  
• Cons: Not enough buttons
  
• I own one and have played Elite with it
  
  Steam Controller: $50
  
  
• Pros: Cheapish, works, comfortable, plenty of buttons, overly customizable software options to ensure it just works with everything!
  
• Cons: Touchpad in place of traditional D-Pad/Right Joystick can be janky in some games and some people just downright don't like this.
  
• I own one and have played Elite with it.
  
  T-Flight HOTAS X: $50
  
  
• Pros: Cheap, well made, works with PS4 if you're a PS4 commander
  
• Cons: No mini analog stick.
  
  Xbox One Controller + Wireless PC Adapter: $63
  
  
• Pros: Upgrade to the 360 version
  
• Cons: Wireless, so batteries.
  
  Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS: $108
  
  
• Pros: Cheap for a HOTAS, well made, mini analog stick on throttle.
  
• Cons: Mini Analog stick is in a weird place (subjective)
  
• I do not own this, but I would buy it if I needed another HOTAS
  
  Xbox One Elite Controller: $140
  
  
• Pros: upgrade over the standard xbone controller
  
• Cons: paddles can't be mapped to unique button presses but instead just can be set to emulate other buttons on the controller
  
  X-52: $150
  
  
• Pros: Looks like the joystick and throttle in Elite.
  
• Cons: No ministick on throttle.
  
  Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS: $449
  
  
• Pros: All Metal Construction, very solid piece of hardware
  
• Cons: No Ministick on throttle, No Twist Yaw on the stick, HOLY SHIT BALLS EXPENSIVE, your husband/wife might be angry with you for buying this if they aren't into this kinda thing.
  
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  Okay with the all in one box stuff out of the way there are some good mix and match options from CH Products which I'll list below. My current set up is CH Fighterstick, CH Pro Throttle, CH Pro Pedals, + HTC Vive for headtracking (or ED Tracker for headtracking when I don't want VR)
  
  CH Flightstick: $75
  
  
• Pros: Solid Build Quality, Ambidextrous
  
• Cons: Ugly, not a lot of buttons, no twist yaw
  
  CH Combatstick: $94
  
  
• Pros: Solid Build Quality, thumb button.
  
• Cons: Ugly, no twist yaw
  
  CH Fighterstick: $116
  
  
• Pros: Solid Build Quality, 4-way Hat thumb switch
  
• Cons: Ugly, No twist Yaw
  
• I own this and this is my primary stick for Elite
  
  CH Flight Sim Yoke: $120
  
  
• Pros: Can double as a driving wheel!
  
• Cons: No triggers, not a lot of buttons, some players have reported yokes don't work well for twitchy flight gameplay like combat.
  
  CH Pro Pedals: $121
  
  
• Pros: Solid Build Quality, Very Responsive, doubles as gas & brake pedals for driving games!
  
• Cons: Pedals are a bit close together, some male players have reported this is uncomfortable, the springs that recenter the pedals are really strong and take getting used to.
  
• I own this and it is my primary yaw pedals.
  
  CH Pro Throttle: $123
  
  
• Pros: Solid Build Quality, very responsive throttle, mini analog stick,
  
• Cons: Throttles Physical Range is a bit short, no center indent or tension control, Kinda ugly, mini stick might require high deadzones.
  
• I own this and it is my primary throttle
  
  CH Eclipse Yoke: $201
  
  
• Pros: Good for Flying & Driving, plenty of buttons, and flappy paddles for yaw or gear shifting
  
• Cons: No triggers, might not be ideal for combat.
  
• I want one.
  
  Also note that the joysticks and throttles from the Thrustmaster FCS and Warthog can be bought separately making them worth considering as options here.
  
  FINALLY I will leave you with a word of warning. The Saitek X-55 and X-56 might look tempting, but they have shoddy build quality and will break on you. I used to have an X-55, and I've seen the inside of the X-56 and they both have the same problems. They are a time bomb, do not buy them. Also someone will more than likely eventually comment saying they own one of these devices and have had zero issues out of them, lucky them I hope they never have an issue, but Saitek is known for terrible Quality Control and with the exception of the X-52 buying a Saitek product is not worth the gamble even though Logitech now owns them and is known for great build quality, there are too many items from when Mad Catz owned them floating around in the wild.

The Thrustmaster T-1600FM might be around your budget if you can get it.

I would suggest adding a little more and getting the Saitek X52

Do this guys. Controller and controller with case is the same price.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQ5NK5Y/ref=twister_B01MG8P418?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

I'm in for $55. http://imgur.com/a/E6IDi

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-playstation-4/dp/B00O8B7D02/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519448893&sr=8-1&keywords=T300rs

Standard T300. Count the pedals.

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T150-PRO-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B06XP1JZ53/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519448965&sr=8-1&keywords=T150+pro

T150 pro. Count the pedals.

The 150 pro has more. Because it comes with the T3PA pedals while the standard t300 doesn't, which makes it a fantastic deal as a starter setup, precisely because you can just upgrade the wheel later and keep the pedals

Unless you're rich and just happy to splurge on whatever's the top of the line, just get a cheap one to start with. Most people start with the Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS X, which is cheap and plasticky but it has all the buttons you need and works absolutely fine. I have 1000+ hours in E:D and have never felt the need to upgrade from this HOTAS, though I'll probably get something better when it eventually breaks.

If you find you really like the HOTAS experience and feel like you want to dump some money into it, then you can get something like the Thrustmaster T 1600M or the Logitech X52.

And if you really like it and want to go higher end, there are a few options for that. Just be warned that they start to get real expensive.

sure, I'll copy/paste here:

The higher-end ones tend to be what's called a H.O.T.A.S (Hands On Throttle And Stick). essentially this is a packaged deal with a joystick and throttle quadrant, and is useful for not having to take your eyes (or hands) off the throttle and stick while flying. Some of these can be expensive like the Thrustmaster Warthog, considered the high end of the sticks. The issue with this as well, is it's modeled off a A-10 Warthog's inputs, so you'll also need to get rudder pedals as well since there is no Z-axis twist on the stick.
For more budget options, I have heard really great things about the T-16000 M. You can also buy the stick and throttle separately if you dont have the cash for both right now.

Another company is VKB, a Russian company but uses magnetic "MARS" sensors. I actually use their Black Mamba and love it, however the item has since been discontinued and the company itself is hard to get hold of. They currently have affordable sticks modeled on the German KG12 - flight stick used in BF109's and FW 190's (although no throttle quadrant with it). Available on Amazon its called Gladiator

Saitek makes several sticks, however they're in a transitioning period. They were just bought-out by Logitech and some people have complained about quality issues with their newer sticks and lack of customer support, so I'd only recommend them if you can get a great deal on a stick on sale, or possibly a used one for cheap. Their models are the X52 Pro, X-55, and X-65. I had the 52 Pro and never had any issues, but its one of those buy beware moments with them right now.

And then there's really affordable sticks that work fine too, such as the logitech extreme 3d pro and Thrustmaster T-Flight X. These are reliable sticks that lack some of the fancy things like buttons and dials for radiator management for example. I know guys who fly using these and love it.

Another thing that is highly recommended to get, but is not required to play the game, is called a Track IR. If you watch in my video, I'm swiveling my head back and forth to check my 6, and make sure theres no enemy aircraft diving on us. I'm not using the mouse, or any input to look around, rather I have a clip on my headset that uses IR sensors to turn my head in game without having to take my hands off the HOTAS. Here's a video of how it works. Again, not necessary to buy, but one of those things to hope to get down the road. There are free alternatives called Freetrack which uses a webcam, I think. I havent messed with that but I know a few guys who do use it and are happy with it.

I think thats a fairly decent summary. Feel free to PM with any questions, or check out our group's forums if you'd like to do some more research
http://aircombatgroup.co.uk/forum/index.php

You can also check out r/hotas which is a great community dealing with news, special offers, user reviews, etc

Cheers!

All credit goes to u/AtaraxiaGT for talking about it, I just went ahead and did a link to make it easier for you OP. Click here to view the Logitech PowerShell Controller with Battery for iPhone 5/5S and iPod Touch 5th Generation currently listed at $30.99 USD

Qanba Drone if you're on PS4 and do not care about artwork swapping. Venom Arcade Stick if you're on PS4 and want artwork swapping. Mayflash F300 if you're on Xbox or Switch and do not care about artwork swapping. Mayflash F500 if you're on Xbox or Switch and want artwork swapping. Qanba Carbon if you're PC-only and care about artwork swapping.

All of these sticks can be easily modified with higher quality levers or buttons at a later date. Personally, I went with the Venom Arcade Stick, upgraded it with Sanwa parts, used it for a few years and then switched to a full custom.

Nice! The Steam Sale starts in a few hours.

The Steam Controller + Carrying Case is also $35: https://www.amazon.com/Steam-Controller-Carrying-Case/dp/B01MQ5NK5Y

I would definitely start with whatever you have and get used to the game. There are a lot of controls to map, and you want to figure out your play-style and what commands you use before you decide what controls to get. A controller will fall short quickly and you will need controller + keyboard - that may be an issue in VR (can't see the keyboard) but it will get you started at least.

I am a combat pilot, which makes heavy use of all the 3D maneuvering inputs, so dual joysticks + pedals is my favorite control scheme to have full precision analog control of everything. I like these for this setup, because they are symmetrical and it is easy to locate the buttons without looking in VR: https://smile.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-16000M-SPACE-SIM-STICK-pc/dp/B076XKZML8

EDIT: You will love it in VR by the way. Everyone that tries it says it is like a whole different game in VR. Its the first game that I thought "wow, this expensive headset was totally worth it". Definitely try bounty hunting, and later combat zones.

Here's my list. I just bought my Vive a few days ago, so some suggestions aren't things I have but haven't yet tried.

Games I've played and recommend:

• Project Cars: $10.19 through the Humble Bundle store, and the cheapest it's ever gone was $9.89, so it's at a pretty good deal right now. Do yourself a favor and buy yourself a Logitech Driving Force GT, which can be found for roughly $50-$100 on Craig's List. The experience with a wheel is insane!
  
• Distance: $9.99 on the Humble Bundle store, so 50% off. Amazing gameplay, crazy physics, evolving landscapes and flexible gameplay, supports multiplayer. It's early access but is from a proven developer and it's already very far along. Plays with a standard controller.
  
• Elite Dangerous: If you're into space sims, this is the one to get. With a Vive, it's nothing short of amazing. Again, get yourself a HOTAS. I'd recommend the Saitek X52 Pro because Elite Dangerous modeled the controls visible in the cockpit after them, but the standard X-52 is also fine and can be found on Craig's List for $50-$100. Both have pre-defined profiles within ED and don't require much (if any) settings modification. Some recommend the Thrustmaster Warthog but it's $400 dollars and doesn't support 3rd-axis twist. Go with the Saitek.
  
• Bazaar: $1.99, so 60% off on the Humble Bundle store right now. Odd, mysterious, low-poly style.
  
• Manastorm: Champions of G'nar: $4.99 on the Humble Bundle store. It's basically Magic: The Gathering or Hearthstone in VR, where your spells summon creatures on the battlefield shooting spells require you to actually aim to be effective. Early access, so no deckbuilding or multiplayer yet, but a fun tech demo. I really hope they finish it as it's very well done.
  
• Soundboxing: $7.99, though it's been as cheap as $4.79. DDR meets Guitar Hero in 3D with YouTube videos and dancing robots. It's just as glorious as it sounds, and can be a great workout.
  
• Castle Must Be Mine: $6.99. Tower Defense like Kingdom Rush, but you're leaning over/through the table/battlefield. I really like this implementation of tower defense and I'm looking forward to more games like this.
  
• Kindled Cavern: $4.49, 10% off. Low-poly cave exploration from a fellow Redditor.
  
• Poly Runner VR: Free, endless runner (flier) in a low-poly art style. Gameplay is so-so, but it's kind of pretty.
  
• InMind and InCell: Both free. First designed for Google Cardboard, and great examples of what could be done with the platform. Gameplay is mostly linear and interaction is done by staring directly at things. Very good production quality. InMind shrinks you down to the size of a molecule and sends you to zap neurons that are making a patient depressed. InCell is zapping a virus from inside a cell. InMind works quite well. InCell may have bugs but it might be my system.
  
• LightBlade VR: $3.99 lightsaber game. Kinda lame, but also kinda fun. May or may not be worth $4.
  
• Skeet: VR Target Shooting: Free. Basic target shooting. Kinda lame but kinda fun, and it's free. One reviewer said it was a good way to introduce non-gamers/techies to VR.
  
• The Lab: Free. Sort of a comprehensive tech demo in the Portal universe.
  
• Accounting: Free. Note: this game has nothing to do with accounting and is absolutely not work safe. This is some weird shit, yo.
  
  Games I've bought/downloaded but haven't yet played:
  
  
• Gnomes & Goblins: Free. Another interactive tech demo, but looks amazing.
  
• The Night Cafe: Free. Another interactive experience, based on the works of Vincent Van Gogh.
  
• PolyDome: Free. A musically-themed tech demo.
  
• The Price of Freedom: Free. A story about the CIA's MK Ultra. As such, it's probably very creepy.
  
• Quanero VR: Free. An interactive experience that reminds me a bit of Infamous.
  
• Senza Peso: Free. A visually-stunning presentation.
  
• VRchaeology: Free. Archaeology in VR. Looks excellent, but I haven't been able to try it yet because my house's VR area isn't large enough. I'll try it out at my office sometime soon.
  
• VR Sailing: Free. Visually, it appears more visually impressive than VR Regatta, but I think VR Regatta might have the edge on gameplay. VR Sailing is free whereas VR Regatta is $5.99.
  
• Lazerbait: Free. Like a VR version of Auralux, (a game by another fellow Redditor), but is actually based on an older game called Galcon. I haven't played it yet but it looks good.
  
• Nevermind: $4.99 on the Humble Bundle store, so 75% off. A psychological horror game that claims to increase your stress while playing by using your webcam. Dunno how realistic that claim is, but it's a cool idea. I've heard good things about it before.
  
• Yon Paradox: $0.89 - hard to go wrong at that price. The Steam review says the VR is problematic, but I mostly bought it because of cheap prices and pretty colors. If it sucks, it was under a dollar.
  
• VRNinja: $6.99 on the Humble Bundle store, so 30% off. Duck, squat, and move out of the way of projectiles thrown by hidden Ninjas in beautiful scenes. Currently at the cheapest price it's been, but it's only 30% off the normal price of $9.99 so not a big deal if you miss it.
  
• Legend of Dungeon: $3.29, so 67% off. It's been as cheap as $1.99 before. Cute, retro/8-bit theme, but that's extruded in 3D and has AMAZING lighting. Cheap, beautiful, and pretty fun/neat looking gameplay.
  
• Catlateral Damage: $4.99 on the Humble Bundle store, so 50% off. You're a cat knocking stuff off shelves in first-person because your owner isn't paying enough attention to you. Yes, really. Stupid, silly, but looks fun.
  
• Child of Ault: $9.99. Described as a tower defense/shooter hybrid. Very polished. I haven't played it yet, but it looks very good.
  
• Holoball: $7.49, so 50% off. Pure, glorious, 80s 3D pong. Looked fun.
  
• I Hate Santa: $2.69, so 10% off. Cheap, so hard to go wrong. Hit waves of Christmas-themed enemies with snowballs. Looked stupid, silly, and fun. Haven't tried it yet.
  
• Portal Stories: VR: Free, 8 tests in the Portal 2 engine in VR, so requires Portal 2. Haven't played, looked nice.
  
• Rec Room: Free. Online multiplayer arcade-style games like Mini golf, air hockey, paintball, Cards Against Humanity, etc. Has a very Nintendo Wii feel to it. Haven't tried it yet but it looked nice.
  
• Acan's Call: Free. Dungeon hack 'n slash. Looks fun.
  
• Gorn: Free. Utterly ridiculous arena gladiator fighting. Be extra cautious with walls and nearby people in the real world: people have broken their controllers playing this game.
  
• DCS World: "Free", but you have to buy the vehicles, which range from $10-$60 each. I'm told this is the end-all, be-all of military simulation, but I can't vouch for that yet.
  
• DreamLand: Free. Looks visually incredible, but some people have reported functionality issues.
  
• Goalkeep VR: $3.99. Haven't tried it yet but I bought it because one reviewer said "Simple. Fun. I'm a retired hockey goalie. When on "Bullet" mode it felt like I was playing again."
  
• Spell Fighter VR: Free. Dungeon hack n' slash with spells. Looks interesting.
  
• Surge: Free. Supposedly an amazing music video. Haven't tied it yet.
  
• Trials on Tattooine: Free. Basically a mini Star Wars shooter/lightsaber experience. Might be a better (and cheaper) alternative to Lightblade VR, but I haven't tried it yet so I don't know.
  
• VR Multigames: Free. A small collection of minigames: archery, lightsaber and blaster, goalkeeper, etc. Looked fun, haven't tried it yet.
  
• Waltz of the Wizard: A tech demo that's visuall impressive.
  
  I've run out of room and have a bit more, so will continue this in a second comment.
  
  Edit: fixed some bad links. Sorry!

Sounds like your missing the Steam Controller Get it, with a case, for $34

Qanba Obsidian

And yes, buy it.

Whats your current specs?

I'd say avoid VR initially, I personally think it is the better overall experience but its a bit tough to learn DCS in and costs more overall in terms of hardware and performance.

So for under $1k budget, I'd get something like this if you can fit it in your space, or you could spend a bit more and get the [warthog]
(https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T16000M-FCS-Flight-Pack/dp/B01N2PE8CZ/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_147_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=N77385WVH3Q2D79PYPY2) which is a great setup, just no pedals.

Then, trackir or Open track for sure. And yes, you described how it works but its not a 1:1 head turn, and you can change the sensitivity. I don't really move my head more than 15 degrees or so.

Then I'd suggest buying the F/A-18, its a good mix of difficulty and capability.

After that, I'd go for the bottle neck in your system, but I dunno your specs. I'd suggest a 2070 super if you can afford it, or see if you can pick up some decent components over at /r/hardwareswap

After you've got some hours and feeling like you need more, maybe start saving for a VR headset, I'd suggest the index, but I've heard great things about the rift-s. Odessy + on a budget if need be.

And if you still have a 5/5s you can buy a very nice controller for only $7 and not have to deal with frustrating touch controls. It's plug n play with GBA4IOS.
Logitech PowerShell Controller with Battery for iPhone 5/5S and iPod Touch 5th Generation - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FHREO8K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_HRE6xbHKXAK3K

What system you play on is beside the point. Let's see what we can plan out for you.

I'm basing this off of your other comment's projected budget, $500 - $1000.

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First and foremost, your wheel and pedals. Whether you start with your cockpit/wheelstand or wheel is mostly up to preference, but I'd start with a wheel first, since a wheel clamped to a desk with pedals on a floor is the minimum of simracing, whilst a rig with no wheel is just a glorified gaming seat. Plus, what you get first sets the budget of what comes after it, and I wouldn't prioritize an expensive rig over a good wheel.

Anyway, where you go from here pretty much depends on how much you're looking to spend. If your budget is $500 - $1000 and you're looking to get a whole setup going, I'd keep the wheel+pedal spending to $500 or less. This will leave you with a decent amount of wiggle room for rigs and accessories. All of the suggested wheels are compatible with Xbox One.

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Wheels and Pedals

• Thrustmaster TMX
  
  A budget wheel if there ever was one. It's by no means a bad wheel, for $200. It has reasonably strong FFB and similar build to its more expensive counterpart, the TX. Though with a brushed motor and belt-gear hybrid system, it's not as strong nor as smooth as the TX. As someone who's tried its PlayStation counterpart (the T150, basically the same base with a slightly different rim), I'd say it's 75% the quality for 50% the price. If you're on a strict budget and know you'll be on one for a while, it's a pretty good deal.
  
  ^(NOTE: As of writing this, it's currently on sale for $160!)
  
  
• Thrustmaster TMX Pro
  
  If you're planning to drive with an H-gate shifter in the future, then this version of the TMX is a good deal. Instead of the standard 2-pedal Thrustmaster set, it comes with Thrustmater's T3PA Pedals. On top of getting a clutch pedal, it includes a conical brake mod, designed to give more tension to your brake pedal and allow you to better control braking. Plus, in just about any wheel-supported Xbox One game you can map the brake to the clutch and put the conical brake mod behind it, giving your legs more room if you're not using an H-gate shifter. Though if you know you never want to use an H-gate, it might be better value to just get the standard TMX and use a DIY solution for modding the brake.
  
  
• Thrustmaster TX
  
  In case you're wondering, yes, it comes with Ferrari branding as standard. Anyway, this is arguably the best bang-for-your-buck. TX TX's rim is interchangeable, so if you're not a fan of the stock one, you can replace it with another Thrustmaster rim of your choosing. On top of that, its belt-driven FFB system is a bit stronger and considerably smoother than the TMX, not to mention that it's hard mountable (is able to be screwed-in to a rig instead of needing a clamp). While some get the TMX as a starter wheel and upgrade later, this wheel is often people's one-stop for sim racing, since it's just that good.
  
  ^(NOTE: You really picked the best time to get into sim racing, this wheel is only $257 as of writing this! $400 is a decent price for this wheel but the current price is an absolute steal.)
  
  
• Thrustmaster TX Leather Edition
  
  Similarly to the TMX, this is Thrustmaster's step-up version of the wheel; not only does it include a special black version of the T3PA pedals, it also includes a much better rim. While its style is more akin to the TMX, its rim is made from a metal frame, making it feel more solid than the TMX and standard TX plastic rims, and is wrapped in a nice leather instead of rubber. For only $67 more than the standard TX, it's a significant savings over buying the parts separately.
  
  
• Fanatec CSL Elite
  
  This is the premium class of wheels, for the most part. Fanatec's hardware is generally only built from the best of materials and offer some of the best performance, along with being open to Fanatec's wider, more advanced selection of parts and accessories. However, unlike most wheel bases, this is only the wheel base, no rim or pedals included. If you want Fanatec's base CSL offerings for a rim and pedals, the price jumps to about $470, the same price as the TX, but that's only with two pedals. If you want their 3-pedal base instead, the price jumps up to $590, and if you want a GT style rim instead, you're already over $600 with the 2-pedal set, $700 with the 3-pedal set. Fanatec's gear is top-quality, but it comes at a price. Is the bit of extra quality worth the prices that the parts quickly add up to? That's subjective. At the very least, I wouldn't recommend Fanatec Gear if you're on a budget, but maybe consider it for the future.
  
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  Rigs and More
  
  There are some Xbox One wheels for you to consider. I hope my explanations made sense, I wanted to make sure to convey the different aspects of each wheel so you could better make a decision.
  
  If you want my personal recommendation though, I'd say the TX, especially since it's on sale. $250 for that base is a great price, it's a near-perfect balance of budget with performance.
  
  Next on the list, a rig. If we're assuming that you're willing to reach towards the upper-end of your budget, then continuing here after you get your wheel is a no-brainer. Having a dedicated place to secure your wheel and mount your pedals makes for a far better experience than sitting at a table, especially if you're playing in front of a TV.
  
  Keep in mind that there are two types of rigs, wheel stands and cockpits. Wheelstands are only meant to mount your wheel and pedals, where you sit is up to you. They're designed to be foldable and easy to carry, making them perfect for playing in front of the living room TV or using in a small apartment. Dedicated cockpits take things to the next level, securing your seat to the wheel and pedals means that you won't have to worry about anything sliding around, and makes things more comfortable overall.
  
  As much as I want to continue though, there are many, many great options to choose from and reddit has a length limit on comments. For more information on building your rig, you can check out the r/Simracing Buyer's Guide in the wiki. It includes everything wheels and rigs to accessories and monitor mounts.
  
  Cheers, and let me know if you have any questions.

Waiting on the T3PA pedals to come in stock.

http://www.amazon.com/T3PA-Wide-Pedal-Set-xbox-one/dp/B00KX75W9O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422568311&sr=8-1&keywords=t3pa+pedal

I got this kit off Amazon. I'm actually really happy with the quality and functionality.

As requested:


Bartop kit - $139.99 link


Buttons - $66 link


Raspberry Pi 3 - $35 link


Raspberry Pi Case - $7.95 link


Power Recpetical - $5.99 link


USB Hub - $11.99 - linl


Zip Ties for cable management - $5.98 - link


External USB Ports - $11.90 link


Velcro Pads for mounting speakers and Raspberry Pi case - $2.98 link


64 gb SD Card - $24.88 link


HDMI to VGA adapter - $7.99 link


20 ft of 3/4 inch t-molding - $6.99 link


Total cost so far including shipping - $361.13

"Beginner" myself, learning on this

Hori Real Arcade Pro 4 Kai

edit: oops, missed the note about xbox1 (I guess this would be the equivalent?)

Crazy Budget? Hori VLX 360 and change the joystick lever to a Seimitsu LS-56-01. Hopefully you won't need to spend $500 for one.

Other than that, for $150 and tax, I would probably get the Hori arcade pro V since it works on Xbox 360, Xbone and PC.

https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Arcade-Pro-V-Fighting-Stick-Windows/dp/B0136JP894/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1527285168&sr=8-1&keywords=xbox+one+arcade+stick+hori&dpID=41UccS10JTL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

I've spent a significant amount of time with these controllers and all of them have been great:

NES/SNES wireless/rechargable (corrected)

NES/SNES corded

NES/SNES/Analog wireless/rechargable

I use the NES30 Pro and love it.

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Bluetooth-Controller-Classic-Joystick/dp/B018K3Q4KS

8BITDO also makes a phone holder that attaches to the controller. My S7 fits nicely in it. Only complaint is that the phone is heavy, relative to the controller so it feels strange at first. Get used to it tho..

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01LCP1ROO/ref=pd_aw_sim_147_2/131-9244301-6319701?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=08Q7WPTF8769KZ3B099H&dpPl=1&dpID=317iHhZkyaL

Honestly if $60 is your limit you'd probably be better off sticking with pad as you won't be at a disadvantage with a pad versus a stick, honestly the main reason to rock a stick if you want play in arcades too.

For $80 the Qanba Q1 is probably the best inexpensive stick I've ever used, it's built solid and responsive. There's a later, follow-up version, the Qanba "Carbon" which looks to be similar but is only $60 although I personally haven't used that version of the stick.

Be aware that both are PS3/PC and up to Namco for PS4 T7 support, which I believe has been confirmed

Logitech G29 - good value for money, tried and tested tech but it is a bit old being gear driven and can be a bit ratchety compared to a belt driven wheel if you care about these minor things. Pedals included are good especially at the G29 price point. Basically you can't go wrong here.

Thrustmaster T300 with standard pedals

T300RS with T3PA pedals - A bit more expensive than the logitech G29 and Thrustmaster have their fair share of horror stories regarding product defects but over all it's a solid wheel base for the majority. The T300 wheel base is a good wheel of choice for sim racing as It's belt driven so the steering is somewhat smoother and you have the modular steering rim option, just make sure to get a T300 package that comes with the T3PA or T3PA pro pedals. There's also the T150 which is a great starter wheel if you want a cheaper option than the T300 but you won't be able to take advantage of Thrustmasters modular wheel system in future and again, the standard pedals included aren't great.

Fanatec CSL Elite - Not wanting to leave the most expensive "starter" wheel base option out... The Fanatec CSL Elite wheel base for the PS4 will come close to blowing your budget of $500 and doesn't include pedals but it's another option on the table if you are interested in splashing the cash :).

I recommend to check ebay and any other buy/sell websites that you know if you're happy to buy used in case anyone who bought a nice sim rig or wheel and didn't like sim racing as much as they thought and are selling good kit for cheap. Happens more than you'd think!

Hopefully this helps somewhat and you can stay below that $500 mark.

From what I've seen/read, the Thrustmaster TS-PC is overpriced by $100 or so at the moment.

For c. $1000 I'd probaby get:

Thrustmaster T300RS

ProtoSimTech PT-1 Pedals

Thrustmaster TH8A Shifter

But you say you don't want a T300 (I've got one, it's amazing) so... I guess the nearest alternative would probably be the Fanatec CSL Elite, but I've got no experience with it, so someone else would have to chime in.

For me, if not going for the T300, I'd probably want to jump up to either the Fanatec CSW V2 or an AccuForce (or more likely an OSW).

LOL, you say it as if Thrustmaster isn't in the same boat.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/poll-thrustmaster-t300rs-gte-reliability-poll.329969/page-3

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-playstation-4/product-reviews/B00O8B7D02 (note: even the 3+ star reviews often are deducting points for reliability reasons)

This sucks. The G27 was (is?) great with only the wheel encoder wheel ever really being a problem, which has a permanent fix available (albeit requires decent technician skills to fully disassemble the wheel to get to it and then put it all back together properly).

Now, it seems both the G29 and Thrustmaster 300 wheels have atrocious reliability and durability and it's not even narrowed down to just one issue.

I guess I'll have to pray my G27 makes it through to the next generation of wheels where they finally get this shit sorted and make a decent wheel.

I still don't get why everyone complains about the gear drive vs. the belts in the G29, real cars have similar gears in the rack and pinion, nobody's car steers off of a belt. I don't know where people get the idea that gears are somehow a dated mechanism, timing belts were perfectly available when the first FFB wheels were created, they just weren't chosen. In fact, the reason you don't see gears in other wheels is because Logitech has a patent. When other wheels claim their mechanism is superior to gears, they're throwing you a sales pitch because they're not allowed to use gears. IMO, the Logitech FFB feels great, but much is left to the owner to set it up right for each game as developers are notoriously lazy when it comes to optimizing wheel settings.

I completely understand the difficulty. There is lots to consider and it sounds like you've done a lot of terrific research and want to avoid cogging.

For the price, you really cannot go wrong with the T300RS because the next step up is considerably more expensive.

However, the pedals that come with the T300RS are hot garbage so be gentle with them and perhaps consider replacing them later.

With those pedals though, it's worth mentioning that in total, it will put you into T500RS territory(comes with the good pedals by default) so you may want to keep that in mind.

Hori Real Arcade Pro V Kai

Mayflash F500 or Mayflash F300 with MagicBoots

I'm just gonna push a shameless plug for 8BitDo's Nintendo-inspired controllers. They're all fantastic for what they are and do a great job as controllers for both mobile and PC. They are the perfect thing for emulation. I love my NES30 Pro for Project M. Works great. However, the one problem with it is that starting it up is a pain sometimes. You'll have to look up the control manual a couple times before you memorize how to use it.

Two variations are available for the pro version. The pro has four face buttons, d pad, 4 shoulder buttons (all digital) and 2 analog sticks. NES30 Pro is my favorite, though they have a Famicom30 Pro as well. The FC30 uses real brushed metal.

Edit: They have other more simple controllers too that function just like an SNES controller in all kinds of shapes and sizes.

I have one of these 8bitdo SFC30 controllers and I absolutely love it. I've used it so much over the last year and a half that I'm very likely going to buy one of their NES30 Pro controllers. I think the NES30 Pro is better suited for PSP emulation and for use with a lot of indie games I have on steam (e.g. Rogue Legacy, Binding of Isaac, Risk of Rain).

Maybe a controller would help? I use this bad boy for android gaming.

https://www.amazon.ca/Thrustmaster-T16000M-FCS-Hotas-PC/dp/B01KCHPRXA

I'm using that and it works great.

https://www.amazon.ca/Logitech-Saitek-Flight-Control-945-000025/dp/B01LY285ZH/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1525367288&sr=1-4&keywords=hotas&dpID=41aijb9PAtL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

I got that for my brother because I love him more than he loves me and he seems to like it. However they did some software/firmware upgrades on it that apparently limited customisability.

Here ya go: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01MQ5NK5Y/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1483027291&sr=8-2&pi=SL75_QL70&keywords=steam+controller

Qanba Obsidian

• Currently on sale on their main website.
  
  HORI Fighting Edge
  
  Razer Panthera Evo
  
  Hori Rap 4 Kai
  
  The 'Hori Rap 4 Kai' used to be the most popular until the 'Qanba Obsidian' came along. From what I've seen, the Qanba Obsidian is the most popular stick right now. The 'Razer Panthera Evo' is an updated version of the 'Razer Panthera' and it's a solid stick from what I've read.
  
  Personally, I'm looking to get the 'Hori Fighting Edge' next because the button layout got me curious and the aluminum panel seems really nice.
  
  
  
  I have the Qanba Obsidian and Hori Rap 4 Kai so I can speak a little about those.
  
  >Qanba Obsidian
  
  Quite big in size and heavy. Definitely sturdy. Lots of room to rest your arms on. Custom art work replacement is easy. Same goes for replacing the buttons. The miscellaneous buttons up top are a little too small and fat fingering a button happens sometimes.
  
  >Hori Rap 4 Kai
  
  The size and weight lean towards average. It'll rest on your lap nicely and not feel overbearing. Custom art work replacement requires a little work because the default artwork has strong adhesive binding it to the steel plate inside. Replacing buttons is no problem. Miscellaneous buttons are on the right side underneath the right wing. You can also rebind buttons.

The Thrustmaster 16000M, either by itself, as a hotas, or as a hosas is regarded as a good entry level stick by many.

edit: best way to make credits in-game by far is mining, either surface mining for painite or core mining for void opals. Easily 100m/hr or more if you know what you're doing, and/or follow one of the many guides on youtube. I can't personally advise though as I've been actively avoiding it. I don't want to be rich so quick I have no idea what to do with it.

WOW! Thank you everyone for the advice you've given me.

I'm not even gonna start the game for a bit. I'm moving to a 2BR place at the end of the month, and the second bedroom is gonna become my VR space.

I think I'm gonna save up a bit and get this chair and this HOTAS setup.

Then I'm gonna get lost in space.

Frame: Volair Sim Universal Flight or Racing Simulation Cockpit Chassis with Triple Monitor Mounts https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AGYXUKW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_miyVAb55BEEJF

Monitors: Acer Gaming Monitor 24" XFA240 bmjdpr 1920 x 1080 144Hz Refresh Rate 1ms Response Time AMD FREESYNC Technology with Height, Pivot, Swivel & Tilt (Display Port, HDMI/MHL, & DVI Port) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06ZYHZ6R6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_sjyVAb2BBS676

HOTAS: Logitech G Saitek X52 Pro Flight Contol System https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LZ1MQTL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_okyVAbPZ9H8N0

Side panel: Logitech G Saitek Farm Sim Vehicle Side Panel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M1B2MJX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_ElyVAbGR3K2HG

IIRC most say a square gate is the best but just like almost everything about fightsticks ultimately it's up to preference. Here's a good breakdown. The plates on amazon are so cheap that you could get the octagonal and switch between to see which one you'd prefer.


If you don't want to worry about upgrading then getting a stick with Sanwa parts is your best bet, so between the three sticks you've put up I would definitely go for the Panthera. The TE models this gen aren't as good as the TE models from last gen so I wouldn't recommend that and I would absolutely avoid the Hori just based on the fact that they use their own custom parts. The Hori parts aren't bad but a stick with Sanwa parts is a "safer" option.

But I would recommend considering the Quanba Obsidian. PS4+Ps3+PC support, Sanwa parts, and from my understanding(I haven't done anything to mine) it's relatively simple to customize. You can't go wrong with the Obsidian or the Panthera really.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Obsidian-Joystick-PlayStation-Fighting-Officially/dp/B01N9JMYPX

Have you considered the Obsidian? Reviews are very positive

Mine showed for $159 at Walmart. I put in for a price match at Amazon this morning and it looks like they already dropped the price.

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T150-PRO-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B06XP1JZ53/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519489426&sr=8-1&keywords=thrustmaster%2Bt150%2Bpro&th=1

Yes, F1 2019 is perfectly fine for beginners as it's the perfect combination of Sim and Arcade game.

If you can afford it, pick up the Thrustmaster T150. It's a perfect beginner wheel and has everything you need such as pretty decent FFB and paddle shifters. I used it myself for a while and I'll always stand by it.

A couple of things to keep in mind about budget wheels like the one you linked, based on my experience:

- no force feedback, which is a bummer.
- very limited rotation (this one rotates 90` either side, while a good wheel rotates at least 270` or more) - this affects gameplay a lot as your handling is going to be very twitchy - important if you're going to be playing a sim racer.
- steering isn't smooth and rotation-resistance can be a pain, literally.

You can really go ahead and get it if you want to, it'll be fun and more immersive than using a controller. It should be fine for NFS, Forza Horizon, or even F1.

However, I wouldn't recommend it for any proper racing sim such as Project Cars, AC, GT, or even FM7 due to the precision required in those games. If you really want a wheel setup, I'd suggest saving up and getting something like the Thrustmaster T150 PRO which usually goes on sale for around 13.5k INR because it has almost all the best features of a proper racing wheel. Or consider getting a good controller - I use an Xbox One controller for Forza, F1 and it is good enough and more precise than an entry level wheel.

I would watch some of the stuff this guy has

And I'd recommend these unless you have a grand to spend, they're what I am planning on getting.

Okay, sure.

Duo Set - https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-16000M-SPACE-SIM-DUO-STICK/dp/B076XKZML8

Single Stick- https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-2960773-T16000M-Joystick-Black/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_63_t_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=V057ET75WNB4K45T8ZXJ

That's all you need for a flight/space sim. Not everyone is who is interested in flight sims is also going to be interested in driving sims, so trying to group them together as being the same cost is disingenuous.

But if you wanted to go on the racing sim side of things, you could get a wheel and pedals for $70, which is still far short of $300 even if you bought both.

Keep in mind, you don't need any of that. There are people that not only get by with a 360 controller, but prefer such. You can also spend way more than $300 if you've the inclination, but trying to put enthusiast pricing as the baseline is a pretty poor way to make a point.

In all seriousness though. A steering wheel and foot pedals are the way to go. Use the steering wheel for left/right torso twist and a mouse. You can torso twist way faster with the steering wheel than with mouse alone. Spreading the damage faster than your enemy. I recommend this one: https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-Racing-Wheel-Legend-PlayStation/dp/B00FB5R1AQ

It spins faster than the others on the market in that price bracket and is endorsed by Ferrari.

best of luck. I've been using my Ferrari for awhile now and I know for sure I get mad torso twists because of it. Totally worth the money.

Logitech 940-000151 Powershell Controller & Batteryaccs Console Style Ctlr-iphone/ipod 5 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FHREO8K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_cyeOzb8B8CQDW

bought mine refurbished last year. couldn't find it for the same price. but you can also go to builds.io and you can install emulators.

edit. found it

Logitech PowerShell Controller with Battery for iPhone 5/5S and iPod Touch 5th Generation - Black (Certified Refurbished) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S8O1BIA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_gzeOzb7VKZAQ0

Ummm what system is it you are playing on because any stick you can get that worked with all 3 is most likely going to be very expensive.

Edit: I see you said about your XBO pad not being responsive so I am going to assume you are playing on that. If you are playing on XBO then you should get a stick that works with that and then it will work also on PC.

I don't think with the lack of fighting games that the XBO has a great choice of sticks but this would maybe be a good buy https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Arcade-Pro-V-Fighting-Stick-Windows/dp/B0136JP894/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_63_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=B0XQTT2R8RGPQ2H77E7E

Personally though I have big hands and find that the stick and buttons are slightly too close on the Hori stick so if you're the same and want something with weight to it I'd go for this https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Atrox-Arcade-Gaming-Controller-Designed/dp/B00LYYNZ30?th=1

Both are quite pricy but if you are really committed to playing fighting games on stick it'll save you money overall because a really budget stick you will quickly outgrow or wear out... or put your fist through.

I can't see a problem with it. I dunno anything about that controller but 8BitDo makes good stuff so it's probably a good choice. If you want something nice and compact, the NES30 Pro is also a good one.

Alternately if you want a controller that can hold your phone, the Ipega PG-9055 is a good bet as well.

If you're looking for controller info, check out our wiki on the sidebar as well. There's a ton of controller reviews available.

Yeah, after playing on PS4 I couldn’t get used to the touch controls. Here’s the controller and holder.
Xbox One Controller Foldable Mobile Phone Holder Smartphone Clamp Game Clip For Microsoft XBOX One S Game Controller Steelseries Nimbus For Iphone Samsung Sony HTC LG Huawei https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MSX55FM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_8yM3AbN8NW6SE

SteelSeries Nimbus Wireless Gaming Controller for Apple TV, iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, Mac https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AZC3III/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_rzM3AbQ8AZSZV

There are gamepads for ios devices.

Great deal here, awesome product....watch Spudknockers YouTube video on track ir setup...you can download his track ir profile

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0029M6VKA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Has anyone used the Thrustmaster VG racing wheel? Curious as to how well it works as a cheap wheel, I'm not really wanting to spend $300 on one. (Linking isn't working for me for some reason)

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-VG-Ferrari-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B00FB5R1AQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1466958509&sr=8-2&keywords=pc+wheel

Will this work for this game? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FHREO8K/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00FHREO8K&linkCode=as2&tag=buymcom03-20

Your best bet is the thrustmaster t3pa pedals with a thrustmaster to USB adapter (not included)

I also found used Logitech ones

If you want to buy once and never again, Fanatec is probably your best bet but it comes at a price.

ClubSport V2.5 Wheel Base is my recommendation for wheel base, check out the steering wheels you like and pick one, this is more preference. This base should basically last you forever, DD wheelbases are highly over-rated in my book.

ClubSport Pedale V3 because they come with the load-cell upgrade already and this is probably the most important upgrade if you take sim racing seriously, it greatly helps with your braking being more consistent.

If else, check out the setup I use. I honestly love it and I don't really see myself upgrading anytime soon. I plan on getting a new setup maybe next year and I'll most likely buy what I posted above if they are still available at the time.

Thrustmaster T300 RS GT and T3PA Pedals

[Thrustmaster](https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-racing-wheel-WINDOWS/dp/B01CI97DNM/ref=sr_1_4?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1537753451&sr=1-4&keywords=thrustmaster+steering+wheel+pc&dpID=51bn3uOuWAL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
) on amazon is $160. It comes with pedals. But honestly after a month I upgraded to much better pedals and then bought a shifter ended up costing me over $400 by the end of it all lol. You can get away with just the wheel and default pedals though.

TX458

Thrustmaster T3PA

Looks like you can get both shipped from Amazon new for around $400-$450. Unless I'm missing something, that's not around $800.

I use dual T.16000m's for my setup and have been heavily considering getting some pedals to complete it. I cannot afford anything crazy like MFG Crosswinds. I'd like to spend a max of $100 on pedals, if possible.

Would a Thrustmaster T3PA be a good option for the game and would it function well enough in a Space Sim environment?

Or should I wait and see if the CH Pro Pedals come down in price a little bit more?

The 3 pedal is the best part of these wheels, and a lot of people continue to use them even after upgrading to Fanatec/TT. The Logitech shifter is sold separately now, and imo it's not worth the $60 they charge for it--save up for better quality. G25/27 wheels used to be a great value because they included 3 pedals + shifter for around $250-300 in an era when higher tier belt drive Thrustmaster wheels were around $500 just for the wheel and pedals.


A good shifter is going to cost you 100-150, so will a good set of pedals. But you should own a basic wheel like the TT TX for a few months to decide if you use it enough to warrant investing in higher end pedals/shifter. A lot of people buy these things and they just end up sitting in a closet being used a few times a year (if that).

Just buy the t3pa pedals. Which are the t500 pedals but seperate and use those with your T300. If you still have the T300 and broken t500. You can use the pedals of the t500 with the T300 too.

Alternatively you can look at much higher end pedals, but I don't see why you should since you liked the t500's pedals. I recommend you do some more research next time or come here and say you don't like the pedals and ask for a solution :) Since now you blew a load of money which wasn't necessary :/

Tldr : Buy the [T3pa Pro]
(http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00UVN21IU/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1458981312&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=T3pa+pro&dpPl=1&dpID=51urgAtTIbL&ref=plSrch) pedals.

this one? https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Arcade-Pro-V-Fighting-Stick-Windows/dp/B0136JP894/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_63_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=652SGMS63GFAVZW8MWY3

I have been testing this guy recently and it works pretty well: https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Stratus-Bluetooth-Wireless-Controller/dp/B015WKY3IM/

$27, wired, no rumble, no gyro, no Amiibo.

$30, wired, no rumble, no gyro, no amiibo.

$43, wireless, no rumble, no gryo, no amiibo, also out of production so if these look good hop on them before the go up in price.

$50, its replacement! wireless, no amiibo. Gryo and Rumble!

CHIP also has bluetooth I think, I'd be curious if you could pair a bluetooth controller like this one (which I have) and use it to control things. The PocketCHIP has a little hole to place a pencil to prop it up to stand on its own. Bluetooth controller to play, and a bluetooth keyboard to hack on code? Hmmm

https://www.amazon.co.uk/SteelSeries-Nimbus-Wireless-Controller-Buttons/dp/B01AZC3III/ref=pd_aw_lpo_107_bs_img_1/259-8664131-1404601?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=PSXHB4074R7FWY45W4NR
Try this :) it should work perfectly

It connects via Bluetooth and shadow will recognise it when you start the app

yeah i have one for gaming on my ipad, i recommend it as well. it’s also a little cheaper on amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AZC3III/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_PKDRzb5TJM9BB

For a controller? I use this one.

No prob!

There's other factors to incorporate too besides cost.

• Level-of-effort. How much time do you want to put into this? Do you have any wood working skills?
  
  
• Time spent playing. If you're only gaming for an hour a week, is it worth it to drop a ton of money in a stick?
  
  If you're interested in a Japanese style arcade stick, there's a load of options out there at various price points. For example ...
  
  8bitdo's NES30 Arcade Stick
  
  
• Pro: Bluetooth connectivity; no wires to drag across the room
  
• Pro: Parts can be swapped without any case modifications; Sanwa parts drop in directly
  
• Con: The stock stick is okay
  
• Con: The unit is $80. If you start modding it, you can reach $130-$140 easily
  
  Qanba's Carbon
  
  
• Pro: Parts can be swapped without any case modifications; Sanwa parts drop in directly
  
• Pro: Stock parts are quite good
  
• Pro: Price of $60 is more than fair.
  
• Con: Corded
  

Buy a Qanba Carbon/Q1

put sanwa parts in it

???

profit!

Saitek X52 (non pro) costs $150 on Amazon and it works for me on Ubuntu using the joystick package.

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Saitek-Flight-Control-System/dp/B01LY285ZH/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1535842497&sr=8-1&keywords=saitek+x52&dpID=41aijb9PAtL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

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This is the one I use.

I don't wanna upset you. Unfortunately yes, you can't use your Rift controllers to control throttle/stick in DCS at the moment (not sure about future). But give it a try with a cheap HOTAS and it is a blast for sure.

I found a few joysticks for you on Amazon:

Logitech 3D Pro - refurbished

Logitech 3D Pro

Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS

Logitech X-52 Pro

Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS on DELL - the best ever HOTAS

Also get the controller with case for $44.99
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01MQ5NK5Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

Basically getting the case for free, vs buing the Link+controller combo.

https://www.amazon.com/Obsidian-Joystick-PlayStation-Fighting-Officially-Licensed/dp/B01N9JMYPX/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496380726&sr=8-1&keywords=qanba+obsidian

I can say I have never seen the obsidian go lower then $160 so I think that's a steal. As for the TE2+ the pricing gets tricky since they don't make it anymore the price seems to always be inflated a couple months ago they where at over $300+ easy. I would say this sale is about as good as it is going to get until EVO since the prices on sticks only seem to drop around the release of new Fighting games and DBZF is huge right now so they are pushing them hard. But of course you do get random stuff like the Panthera being $140 I even missed out on that sale. But once the hype goes down for DBZF you won't see a sale on them for easily 6 months since they are a very niche product. It has gotten to the point where I get excited every time there is a huge fighting game out even if I have no intention of playing it since the sticks will finally come down in price. Here is the sales history of the TE2+ on amazon, Obisidan, and Drone. You can see its crazy how they rarely go on sale and when they do it is always with hype of a new game or Black friday. I mean hell the obsidian seems to never be on god damn sale, I would say if you wanna buy buy now before we enter the drought but that's just me.

I was just going off of Amazon prices when I made my post. To get the T150 with the T3PA pedals you're going to be spending $319, https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Feedback-3-Pedal-Progressive-Resistance-PlayStation/dp/B06XP1JZ53/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1500501698&sr=1-2&keywords=t150+pro . Although after your comment I looked it up and Gamestop does appear to be selling T150 Pro sets for $250. http://www.gamestop.com/accessories/thrustmaster-t150-pro-limited-edition-racing-wheel-only-at-gamestop/131351

For the g29 you're going to be spending $265. https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Driving-Force-Racing-PlayStation/dp/B00Z0UWWYC/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1500501761&sr=1-1&keywords=g29

So in that case it just comes down to whichever wheel you prefer. People say the T150 has better feel, I've never used one so I honestly don't know. But I know Logitech has a better reputation when it comes to their wheel's longevity, and their warranty is good for an extra year over the Thrustmaster (once again, if you live in the EU though you're going to be getting a 2 year warranty on both because of their consumer protection laws.) I live in the US though and the 2 year warranty is what really made me go from wanting to buy the T150, to actually buying the g29. If I'm spending that much money on something I want to make sure that it lasts for as long as possible, and the warranty makes sure that at the very least least I'm getting 2 years of trouble free usage out of it. And for real, the g29 really does feel good, I mean the g25/27 was the standard wheel for enthusiasts for years. The technology may be old, but it's tried and tested, and it works well, just not as well as a belt system.

Spent a few weeks trying to convince drive team to use XBox controller, gave up -- driver is using these. Co-Pilot is using an xbox controller.

I'd recommend the Mayflash f300 because it works with pretty much anything and can be upgraded with more high quality parts later if you want. the elite version already has high quality parts if you want to skip that step.

I see that you're not having a good time with the PS4 controllers although they are toted as one of the better controllers for fighting games. If you're looking to get a more serious controller, something custom could be what you're looking for. I've personally never gone that route so I don't have any personal suggestions. I do know that SonicFox uses Battle Beaver Customs so do what you will with that information.

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I first bought a fightstick because I thought it would be more fun to use than a controller. To an extent, it is. There is a whole learning curve that goes into it. If you think you're half decent now, you'll be trash on the stick until it becomes as comfortable as using a controller. It took me a month to be able to play semi-efficiently and another 2 weeks after to get back to my previous playing level. I researched a bit and picked up a Hori RAP N from Amazon because the NOIR button layout better accommodates large hands. I suggest you don't skimp out and buy a really cheap stick. The parts matter a lot. The cheapest I would suggest would be the F300 Elite since it still uses Sanwa parts. My issue ended up being not able to consistently hit diagonals.

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I then discovered the hitbox after purchasing the RAP N and being a keyboard warrior / PC gamer, I had to try it. I checked out both the hitbox and the mixbox and without trying them out, I didn't know which one I'd prefer. I reached out to Aaron from AllFightSticks and he made me a custom layout that includes both the WASD layout from the mixbox and the "space bar" from the hitbox. I also managed to maintain the NOIR layout and keep the larger button size (official hitbox uses smaller buttons). It wasn't cheap but it's been well worth every dollar spent on it. I can use it on any system without added accessories, it's completely metal so it's durable, and it was made to my exact specifications. Ever since I got my hitbox, I haven't gone back. Added caveat of a hitbox / mixbox is that to do an IAD is essentially pressing WD>D or spaceD>D on your keyboard.

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If you have any questions or want to see pictures of the box, let me know and I'll send you a link

A Mayflash F300 Elite would be a good choice. It's standard Sanwa arcade parts inside. You'd just need to open it up and turn the restricter from 8 way to 4 way.

I'd recommend this one, with analog sticks. It also has a turbo option (that star button in the lower left) 8Bitdo SN30 Pro USB Gamepad for... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R481CVY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

I’ve never heard of that controller but 8BitDo is good for a controller with a good d-pad. I would recommend waiting for the SN30 Pro+ to come out because it’ll be much more comfortable than the current SN30 Pro

I have the wired SN30 Pro and it’s d-pad is fantastic. It’s a nice cheaper option

You can also use 8BitDo’s adapter or the MayFlash adapter to use a DS4 controller on the Switch if you already have one

Most of the Hori pads like the fighting commander(PS4-PC or Xbox-PC).

If you want to be compatible with Switch I would say the Pokken Tournament Controller they did(The one I currently use and like a lot) or the 8bitdo SN30 Pro USB( https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R481CVY )

Has a wired version been announced yet? I bought the wired SN30 and the dpad is sorta ok. Corners are kinda hard to hit so you really have to exaggerate quarter/half circles. I think this pad is better for platformers and other 2D games. I got cramps after trying to use the analog sticks.

Controllers are OK, however playing with a HOTAS is significantly more enjoyable and immersive. If you have any intentions of upgrading to VR (highly recommended) at some point, a stick/throttle is basically required.

I personally recommend the T.16000M Hotas, affordable ($100) and enough buttons to keep your hands off the keyboard entirely.

A friend recently bought the Saitek X52, currently on sale ($100). Generally less recommended than the T.16000M due to durability, but another solid HOTAS.

Thrustmaster: https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-16000M-FCS-HOTAS-Controller/dp/B01KCHPRXA

Saitek: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Saitek-Flight-Control-System/dp/B01LY285ZH (also available in black)

Doesn't look bad, but i'll always prefer the X52. The pinky switch gives you so much more binding options

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LY285ZH/ref=psdc_172487_t5_B01N2PE8CZ

First thing I will tell you off the bat, get something that's in your budget.

Second... let's talk about what type of setup you want...


HANDS ON THROTTLE AND STICK
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HOTAS
-

You have multiple options, starting with the Thrustmaster HOTAS-X.


At around $50, it gives a satisfying first hotas experience.

Moving up the ladder, you get to the T16000M and it's FCS pack.

If you are lucky, you can get this pack on sale for as low as $89.99 on Amazon, and it offers a great package with plenty of toggles and buttons to fully accommodate E:D's controls. You can even add pedals later on down the line, or pick them up as part of one big package.

Further up the price ladder is the X52 suite of controls. Two options are available, in the flavors of the X52 FCS at around $150 and the X52 PRO at around $200. The differences between the two are less pronounced than the jump from the HOTAS-X to the T16000, but it has some "nice" features for scripting and supposedly higher quality components.

Granted, even after Logitech purchased Saitek, the build quality on these former Saitek sticks is ... so-so.


Another great option is CH's products.

Throttle.

Stick.

CH PRO PEDALS

Despite other offerings in the HOTAS world between the X52 Pro, and CH offerings and higher caliber offerings - ignore them.

The X-55 and X-56 are MESSES when it comes to build quality, and it's a crapshoot if you get one that will last.

Your next HOTAS offering is going to be the Thrustmaster Warthog - but you will absolutely need pedals. Which means you're looking at offerings from CH, like the CH PRO PEDALS.

And if you get the warthog, I HIGHLY recommend you use Aussiedroid's scripts and bindings. They are intuitive and utilize the entirety of the throttle and stick.

If it's in your budget, I recommend getting MFG Crosswinds.

Also, VKB makes some T-rudder design pedals that work well.

VKB T-Rudders

However, before anyone tells you differently, or says pedals are shit for yaw. I AGREE, DON'T USE THEM TO YAW. Put yaw on your stick left and right, pitch up and down, and ROLL on your pedals. Right pedal forward, roll right, and left pedal forward roll left. Anyone who does it differently is crippling themselves, especially in PVP. This is a space sim, we don't have to fly space ships like we do aircraft. ROLL ON PEDALS, I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.

Past this point you have offerings from VirPil and VKB, both of which make the best of the best products. They both have better gimbal designs, and stick designs, and come in around $400 for a stick. However, there is no throttle currently, as of this moment, produced by either.


Alternative Setups
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HANDS ON STICK AND STICK
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HOSAS
-

One way of side stepping the pedals situation is running dual-sticks, or hands on stick and stick. This has a slightly higher initial cost than most of the cheaper HOTAS options, but also negates the needs for pedals. The caveat being you need sticks that can be used in both left and right hands.


But thankfully, Thrustmaster has you covered. They offer the T16000M in a dual-stick package. Or you can purchase them separately.


You can also buy two separate Warthog sticks, at around $200 each, and get Okona (/u/cavortingwebeasties) over at dualsticks.com to convert one over.

VirPil's Mongoose can be setup for ambi use, and VKB will be announcing a left handed Gunfighter grip at SOME point. VKB Gunfighter can be found here.

• • • • • 
          
          
          Here's my setup, for good measure.
          

so, this is really all based on a person's preference. there are quite a few HOTAS's that are used for this game. they vary in price, quality, and number of buttons/hats/switches/etc.

here are some examples of "reasonably priced" ones:

Thrustmaster T.16000M
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-16000M-FCS-HOTAS-Controller/dp/B01KCHPRXA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492012194&sr=8-1&keywords=thrustmaster+1600

Saitek X52 Pro (or you could go with a non-pro version to save $50)
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Gaming-Saitek-Flight-Controller/dp/B01LZ1MQTL/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1492012296&sr=8-2&keywords=saitek+x52

You can always go to Amazon and/or do google searches for reviews and other HOTAS systems. I hope this has helped you though. Good luck, and fly safe, CMDR. o7

looks like the sale is still going on Amazon. Plus you can get a free carrying case: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQ5NK5Y/ref=twister_B01MG8P418?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

heres the link - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQ5NK5Y

Just a side note.. you can also get them from amazon.. and if you have amazon prime you get free 2 day shipping on it..

Link

If you buy it on amazon you also get the case for free.. (going though steam the bundle cost about 80 cents more)

I actually bought the bundle off amazon yesterday.. the case showed up today and the controller will be here tomorrow

Conveniently, the Steam Controller and Case are on sale on Amazon right now. Not only is it at its usual low of $35, but the bundle with the case currently costs the same price as the controller alone.

I’m not sure if it’s today-only but at some point amazon started giving the Qanba Obsidian for only $160

He means an arcade stick, a square box that sits on your lap with usually 8 buttons that has a arcadey-esque feel because its the same as what you would remember from the arcade. here is an example:
https://www.amazon.com/Obsidian-Joystick-PlayStation-Fighting-Officially-4/dp/B01N9JMYPX/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1542032372&sr=8-3&keywords=arcade+stick+ps4

The Qanba Obsidian is on sale on Amazon.ca, 219CAD, no taxes. Little over your budget but worth it.
Better than the RAP Hayabusa.
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01N9JMYPX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_vf13CbM5CB4AZ

I'm assuming you are on ps4/pc? There are a ton of good sticks to pick from.

• Hori Fighting edge
  
  
• Razer Panthera
  
  
• Qanba Obsidian
  
  
• Madcatz te2/te2+
  
  They are all in the $200 price range and are all great sticks. Personally I have a te2 and love it. For the most part, it just comes down to preference. If I had to pick, I'd probably go for the Panthera since I don't think Madcatz is making sticks again after they came back.
  
  All of these sticks besides the Hori fighting edge use sanwa parts. The Hori stick uses their own parts, but they are really solid from what I've heard (you can swap buttons/joysticks in any of these sticks, so it isn't the biggest deal).
  
  In terms of using custom art, the Te2 is probably the easiest. The Panthera and Te2 are the easest to mod overall because of their clamshell designs where you can open them up with buttons on the front, but all of these sticks are easy to mod.
  
  I've tried an obsidian and didn't like the shape of the case or the way it looks, but that is just my preference.
  
  I'd just look up each of the sticks and see which one looks best to you. You can't really go wrong with any of them.

You could go with T150 Pro. It goes for $312 on amazon.ca now - link here

Actually a good price for the T150 Pro, it's at $175 with the promo code and CamelCamelCamel has the lowest price on Amazon at $199.99.

That being said, from what I've read the T300 is a considerable upgrade to the T150. Much better force feedback and the wheel on the T150 isn't interchangeable. Could be a good purchase depending on how hardcore of a sim rig you want.

Not at all affiliated, but I love the Thrustmaster t.16000m dual stick bundle. I got this. I'm sure you can find this bundle other places as well.

I just bought TM 16000 dual sticks, felt the price was OK but I don't really know anything about flight sticks but reviews seemed positive. Waiting on delivery of them, hoping they're decent. They seemed like it was a decent intro to flight sticks? Anyone have them?

What platform are you on.

If you're on PC - you have a ton of options that are cheap + good largely because the used market for like Xbox360/ps3 branded sticks from top manufacturers has a literal ton of available sticks for cheap. Like you can literally pick up a Mad Catz Street Fighter IV stick for like $30, and I think most of these will just work on PC OTB, or at most requiring just software dl (e.g. Joytokey / x360ce) etc.


If you're on PS4/XB1 your options are a bit more limited. The F300 option noted below is ok, but you'll need to swap the stick/buttons/harness which is like ~$35 + the stick itself which ranges from $25-$55 depending on if you get it new/used. DIY will only really save you $$ here if you get a used f300, otherwise the price for a new F300-Elite (which uses the JLF + sanwa buttons) is basically only $5-$10 higher (~$90). (https://www.amazon.com/Elite-Arcade-Stick-Android-Switch/dp/B07CXJ77DT?pldnSite=1)



You could also just build one yourself which isn't that hard honestly. If you build the case yourself out of an old cigar box, this is more problematic tho with PS4/XB1 as the encoder/pcb price is $$$ compared to PC. Check /r/fightsticks for details. One of the cool things about DIY is you can play around with a bunch of different sticks. I for example am much more used to using Happ Competition sticks so I got a couple of those (which are cheap comparatively at ~$10), plus a bunch of others I've collected over the years.

It depends how much money you're willing to spend.

Are you okay with emulation? If so, you might want a stick like this or this one with Sanwa parts, and use a monitor that you already have.

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I don't really know much about getting the daughter board for the ZN-2 motherboard (maybe someone else can help out with that), but check out these sites for the ZN-2 motherboard:

https://sophia-corp.jp/

http://www.mak-jp.com/index.html

http://www.gfront.com/

https://www.akihabara-beep.com/stock-pcb/

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This YouTube video shows all the games that you could get with the ZN-2 motherboard itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RurfNge7oqo

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If you are also okay with playing the original board on (preferrably) a CRT, you will need a JAMMA supergun. You can find those on eBay fairly easily.

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If you want to play on a cabinet, you will need to find a candy cabinet. Again, I am not well-versed in this and don't know much about finding these, but check out this video about candy cabs from KevinDDR for more about them.

Why would you buy this controller?

https://www.amazon.com/8Bitdo-Gamepad-Nintendo-Windows-Raspberry/dp/B07R481CVY/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?keywords=8bitdo&qid=1563638187&s=gateway&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&smid=A2UWVAXOHJ0A2X

I'm using this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07R481CVY/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Works but kinda meh. Also note that Beach Buggy and Cuphead support 2 controllers. I ordered the Amazon Basics XBox One clone this morning which I read works fine.

The cheapest would be a Xbox controller. But the Logitech G27 and TrackIr would be the best.

Vertical807 - Flight Sim Addons/Specs/Sim Settings - November 28th, 2017


Peripherals:

Mouse: Senlleo Gaming Mouse

Keyboard: Sonfan Backlit Gaming Keyboard

Controls: Logitech G940 Flight System

Head Tracking: Track IR5 with hat-clip

Headset: Sades SA902B 7.1 Channel Virtual USB Surround Stereo

USB Hub: AmazonBasics 7 Port USB 2.0 Hub

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Computer Specs

CPU: Intel I5-6500, default clock

GPU: Gigabyte GTX1060 G1 Gaming

Motherboard: ASUS Micro ATX DDR4 LGA 1151 Motherboards H110M-E

Case: Corsair Carbide Series 200R Compact ATX

RAM:
Ballistix Sport LT 8GB Single DDR4 2400 MT/s

Kingston HyperX FURY Black 8GB 2133MHz DDR4

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Prepard3d_v4.1

Scenery:

FlightBeam:

KSFOHD, KDEN, KIAD, KPHX

FSDreamTeam

KFLL
, KDFW
, KMEM
, KLAX
, KLAS
, KORD

ImagineSim

KATL

Taxi-2-Gate

KMCO, KSTL

DRZEWIECKI DESIGN

NY AIRPORTS V2 X, NEW YORK CITY X V2, MIAMI CITY X

FlyTampa

KTPA-Rebooted
, KMDW
, TNCM full-extended
, Toronto

SunSkyJet

KPHL

LatinVFR

KEVW
, TJSJ
, KMIA
, KRDU


Orbx

Global Base
, Vector
, OpenLC
, TreesHD

Turbulent Designs

TerraFlora

Weather:

[ActiveSky for P3d_V4 with Cloud Art](

Running Global Configuration!

Aircraft:

PMDG

PMDG 737 Base Package
, PMDG 737 Expansion
, PMDG 777 Base Package
, PMDG 777 Expansion

TFDI

B717-200

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P3D Settings and Visual Modifications:

PTA



ENVTEX

Settings and textures are in Thopat preset .rar file! Follow them as closely as possible!

-Thopat Preset



Game settings


[My P3D.cfg](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N0KbATTwi9WJndWUF-F1sR0pAvEK1lsz/view?usp=sharing)

[Traffic](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q2i8E89NFQMSXqWk4_1cL6aFL1kfOh2L/view?usp=sharing)

[Display](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nAWVmQbWbsXmfLDbLp8v3V1G460hyGVp/view?usp=sharing)

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i ordered mine from amazon. arriving today. pretty excited

http://www.amazon.com/TrackIr-Premium-Head-Tracking-Gaming-Pc/dp/B0029M6VKA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1415723740&sr=8-1&keywords=trackir

HOTAS mounts:

https://www.monstertech.de/en/product/joystick-hotas-table-mount/

On the cap is the reflectors for TrackIR5:

https://smile.amazon.com/TrackIr-5-Premium-Head-Tracking-Gaming/dp/B0029M6VKA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492567143&sr=8-1&keywords=track+ir5+pro

Everybody is providing info on the listing so if I may, mind if I question your choice?

If you have the money a dual stick and rudder pedals setup will give you much better freedom of movement IMO compared to one stick and a throttle and it makes controlling the ship with FA Off much easier if you ever decide to explore that option. Just make sure, if you consider my suggestion, that you get a set of pedals with toe brakes and set those for throttle/reverse.

It is very easy to coordinate if you're used to driving a car and having two sticks will give you analog control of pitch/roll as well as translational thrusters. It's very easy to match speed with a Sidewinder or Hauler in my Eagle while still keeping my nose (and guns) pointed up at his cargo hatch but after a while it almost becomes like a whole extra level of freedom in flight control.

My personal setup consists of 2x Thrustmaster T16000M flight sticks (which are incredibly precise and well built for the cost), CH Pro rudder pedals and Track IR and I think it's awesome. I also use Voice Attack for some functions like lights, hardpoints and cargo scoop as well as power distribution so I don't need to move my hands off the controls. Just some food for thought, links below.

Sticks: http://www.amazon.com/Hercules-2960706-Thrustmaster-T-16000M-Flight/dp/B001S0RTU0

Pedals: http://www.amazon.com/CH-Products-Pedals-Simulator-300-111/dp/B0000512IE/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1420480922&sr=1-1

TrackIR: http://www.amazon.com/TrackIr-Premium-Head-Tracking-Gaming-Pc/dp/B0029M6VKA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1420480970&sr=1-1&keywords=TrackIR

It's possibly more investment than you're ready for but if you end up with the HOTAS and feel like you need more control just keep it in mind. While you can't use that particular stick without having the throttle I don't see why you couldn't set it aside and place another stick down if you wanted to go that route. Personally I ended up replacing my old stick with 2 new ones but I also have someone to hand my old stick down to. (I got my brother Elite for Christmas so we could play together) ;)

Whatever you decide, I wish you luck and fly safe Commander!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0034HXV3Y/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1492480113&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Trackir&dpPl=1&dpID=418auKjpiKL&ref=plSrch this?

Found the entire pack
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0029M6VKA/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492480269&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Trackir&dpPl=1&dpID=515MIsqkQbL&ref=plSrch

Yes it has paddle shifters. Here is the wheel I got. It does only have 180 degrees of rotation but since all I really play is F1 and a little Assetto Corsa it hasn't bothered me.

Dude, $80 gets you one of these and it's 100x better than trying to steer in the air or using a thumbstick.

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FB5R1AQ/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stppvp_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=d45777d6-4c64-4117-8332-1659db52e64f&pd_rd_wg=cRUvO&pf_rd_r=MKE6WV44ZQE02CJJ93C4&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-bottom-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B00FB5R1AQ&pd_rd_w=aFLy4&pf_rd_i=force+feedback+wheel&pd_rd_r=72cd1861-ea3a-4363-b872-5a7f1a74d3a7&ie=UTF8&qid=1542583773&sr=2

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If you don't have room for all that, this would still be way better (I have one) as it has gas/brake paddles and can be used in any racing game.

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/BNIB-SteelSeries-Simraceway-SRW-S1-Gaming-PC-Steering-Wheel-Controller-FREE-SHIP/283266355553?epid=115153567&hash=item41f3fd9161:g:k~sAAOSwL49b8apr:rk:3:pf:1

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As to feedback, way too early to tell anything about the game you've got going there. A game like Test Drive Unlimited or the old Midtown Madness game from msoft would be cool in VR.

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Works good for me. One hand on the wheel and one on a mouse to look, turn signals, cruise control as well being a naga I can set the number to other things like lights, wipers, map controls etc...

I don't think there are any good wheel under 2K

https://www.amazon.in/Thrustmaster-Racing-Wheel-PS3-PC/dp/B00FB5R1AQ/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1522131620&sr=8-4&keywords=gaming+wheel

Check the reviews.

Oh I thought it was just a game kinda like project cars, I'll def try it. I purchased this wheel off of amazon for $50 on black friday.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FB5R1AQ/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This is what I bought, haven't used it yet other than testing GTA V with VorpX and an xbox controller emulator, however it's supported by Project Cars, which I also own yet haven't played yet.

It's a good buy for your price range to include the pedals as well.

For comparison, it's only $31 from Amazon right now, so the deal isn't quite as good. Also, it doesn't work with the iPhone 6 or the 6 Plus, which means it has a limited remaining lifespan. So yeah, I'd say this doesn't seem too terribly abnormal especially with iPhone accessories.

$20 cheaper on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KX75W9O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_grrHDbRWTA1TX

T300rs on amazon.ca. $344.99 canadian. About $110 off. Received mine today

Thrustmaster T300 RS Racing Wheel English Only - PlayStation 4 https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00O8B7D02/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_rfLfAbYJBSZF5

Edit: added link

For those who got trolled googling rs300 and only got bicycle wheels, rims, and actual steering wheels (since above comment didn't provide links), it's the Thrustmaster T300RS

It's even cheaper off of Google Express, and first time Google Express shoppers can get 20% off


Imo, the GT version only shows up $35 more for me, looks like it'll be worth it saving up more for that

Edit: fixed links

I will say that while Taylors price is decent I've found that the higher end wheels are MUCH better. Even Thrustmasters T300RS is night a day difference. Biggest drawback of the G27 is the gear driven motor system. It gives slack and when the wheel is centered there's no force feedback effects AT ALL. Plus, it can be loud...god forbid a gear tooth breaks...CLACK CLACK CLACK. It's really a bad system.

A wheel like the T300RS though is belt driven. No slack, no deadzone, and whisper quiet. Way smoother. It's really, honestly, no comparison at all. Oh and it has a detachable wheel should you choose to get a different one down the road.

So basically if you just HAVE to have a shifter and clutch then G27. If you want a far superior wheel and thus a far superior gaming experience get the T300RS.

I don't care if you're new to this or not. You can always get better pedals and a shifter...you can't improve that G27 wheel though.

http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-playstation-4/dp/B00O8B7D02

Logitech MOMO and DFGT are at or slightly below this price range, but they're two good ones. I've used a MOMO for close to a decade now and it's been a solid wheel. DFGT is superior to the MOMO in most ways except the MOMO has actual paddles instead of just buttons, if that's a big deal for you. DFGT is like 2x the cost of a MOMO though.

If you can save up another $100-$150, or wait for a sale, you could get a Thrustmaster TX or T300RS. They share the same base, and it's one of the best on the market (TX's wheel isn't the best, but it can be replaced). It's miles ahead of all the Logitech wheels (G27,Momo,DFGT) because it's a servomotor with a belt. Logitech wheels are geared which makes the FFB less precise, weaker, and gives them a "notchy" feeling.

IMO if you're looking for a low-cost wheel to test the waters or are new to racing, get a MOMO cause they're very cheap (~$80-$90, vs $150 for a DFGT) and good enough. The MOMO's low steering lock actually makes it well suited for F1 and other open wheel racing. If you are still playing a lot after a year or whatever, put the money you saved on getting the MOMO cheaply into getting a TX/T300RS.

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EDIT: Best price on amazon for this EVER.
http://camelcamelcamel.com/Thrustmaster-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-playstation-4/product/B00O8B7D02

The T3PA Pro's are currently only $20 more than the T3PA's on Amazon. Link I have them both and the Pros are substantially better, also upgraded the Pros with Richmotech load cell

Not bad. I think I saw it at £200 the other week for all 3.

I’ve heard that the G920 has some reliability issues and that the TMX is probably better to go with if you get the Pro set with the T3PA pedals.

If you’re not too bothered about the shifter straight away I’d get the TMX. I have it and the wheel is great for the price bracket, just steer clear of the 2 pedal set if you have the budget to go a step further. Some links below so you can have a look;

ThrustMaster TMX PRO Steering Wheel + Pedalboard https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01M5ALXJD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_6RUpDb20TDV5F

ThrustMaster T3Pa Pro Pedal set - 4060065 (Gaming > Game Controllers) +}b https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00UVN21IU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_HSUpDbP6YVZ0D

Thrustmaster TH8A Shifter (PS4, Xbox One, PS3, PC - Windows 8, 7, Vista & XP) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005L0Z2BQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_eTUpDbTEV2EHJ

> a metal one

These babies won't break. They're also probably way overkill for PTT.

T3PA Pro's are $100 https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-VG-T3PA-PRO-3-Pedal-Add-Set/dp/B00UVN21IU/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1480338818&sr=1-2&keywords=t3pa

Thrustmaster's standalone pedals would be cheaper or very close to the same price as an ebay G27 pedal set and the Bodnar adapter.

It's a much better product as well.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UVN21IU/

The G29 shifter and Bodnar adapter may be the cheapest shifter option on the market, but the quality definitely reflects that compared to the SHH shifter, TH8A, or Fanatec.

It works and is relatively sturdy though (my G27 shifter is at least) so it isn't a terrible option.

I got thrusmaster:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B014US043A/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00TTQKSUS/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00UVN21IU/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I really like it. I considered logitech in the beginning but then went with thrustmaster because a lot of people said it felt like a toy and there was a deadzone.

I hooked a DualShock 3 up for wireless P2 to mine. Anything that's USB and most bluetooth controllers work fine. For a bar you may want to consider something like this:

https://www.etsy.com/listing/222068642

Plus

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WAY9848/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_c0nezbKN0E68M

And a Pi3 would get you an awesome bartop console for under 150

I think you're on track! I used to buy the encoder separately from all the buttons and joysticks, but now there are a lot of options for bundles. I just finished my first bartop (my 4th machine overall). That was also my first pi. That pi bundle came with usb controllers, so that's what I used in that cab for now. May switch out later.

I'm building a small console machine now, and this is what I bought off Amazon. The little easy-get kits, with the zero-delay usb encoders. I've used the zero delay encoders before, and they are a great cheap alternative to the $30/$40 encoders.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WAY9848/ref


The 4.3mm and 6.8mm reference, was that in reference to the dimensions of the cherry switch? That is too large to be in reference to "how far button travels before triggering the switch".

Sometimes there is also a measurement on how much presssure takes to activate the switch. This amount of pressure can make it feel more/less realistic to an original arcade machine. My unskilled fingers cannot tell the difference...

https://www.amazon.com/Easyget-Encoder-Joystick-Illuminated-Buttons/dp/B00WAY9848 look at what all you can make with this kit! LED buttons, Joysticks! still not 65 bucks! fuck microsoft lol

Okay, so I got him a Raspberry Pi for Christmas and he had turned it into a computer that plays old video games... the expensive thing is the [kit] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WAY9848/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3H4BZNET2W15O&coliid=IV0C0R3WPE2V4) to make an arcade box... the other thing is just like a [kit] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HTE5SGA/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3H4BZNET2W15O&coliid=I2MWBUGE8CSI4K&psc=1) [of] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01ICNY0FW/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3H4BZNET2W15O&coliid=I1248L5W0OGC1S) things to do other projects with it.

Yes, I have Zero Delay USB encoders.

I actually purchased this

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WAY9848

I went with this kit:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WAY9848/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It has everything you need, and works out of the box with RetroPie. The joystick is SUPER clicky. It's heavenly. The buttons require almost no force to push and can take a beating. They also pull apart so you can add labels inside. I've had no issues with any of the components so far.

Awesome! The buttons and joysticks connect to a USB encoder that connects directly to the powered USB hub. The powered USB hub is then connected to the Pi. This is the same buttons and joysticks that I used https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00WAY9848/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478364885&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=arcade+joystick+and+buttons&dpPl=1&dpID=61OqcBVFq7L&ref=plSrch.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00WAY9848/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521840802&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=arcade+button+kit&dpPl=1&dpID=61grTwr-n1L&ref=plSrch

Razer Atrox(https://www.razerzone.com/gaming-controllers/razer-atrox-xbox-one) $200
Very simple to customize btw

Or

Hori RAP V. Kai(https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Arcade-Pro-V-Fighting-Stick-Windows/dp/B0136JP894) $150

A simple way to make these work on PS4 is using a X1 to PS4 converters.

Like the Brook converters for (https://www.amazon.com/Gam3Gear-PS4-Converter-Gaming-Adapter-Keychain/dp/B01GDVGQ48) $43.90

Pro Tip: Get a Octagonal Restrictor Plate (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004AU0H4U/ref=pd_aw_fbt_63_img_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=3TFQJ8N725SNJZ5THP1J) $6.54

Xbox One or PC? With reference to the MKX pad, I'm assuming Xbox One. If PC, the Hori Fighting Commander 4 is the one to beat:

HORI Fighting Commander 4 Controller for PlayStation 4/3 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TKLFES8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_QBkzyb4XM5CQ8

As far as Fight Sticks go, it's hard to beat anything Hori for price and the Hayabusa Stick and Kuro buttons are truly great:

HORI Real Arcade Pro.V Kai Fighting Stick for Xbox One, Xbox 360, & Windows PC https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0136JP894/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_JDkzybZXA69JS

If you're a fan of Sanwa Denshi parts instead, I personally bought an old, MadCatz Tournament Xbox 360 fight stick on Craigslist for $60 (may be able to find some for less) and installed the Brooks Universal PCB in it. Most of the installation is insanely easy unless you choose to solder the present USB cable to the board like I did. Since this PCB is Universal, it works on all platforms (save Wii U):

https://www.focusattack.com/brook-universal-fighting-board/

Hope this helps!

There you are

I have this one, https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Stratus-Bluetooth-Wireless-Controller/dp/B015WKY3IM

One of the best gamepads I've used for android. Has both R1 and R2 as well as L1 and L2. I emulate N64 and PS1 games and it feels very nice. Analog sticks are really smooths. Plus, gamepad can be connected to PC.

Go in with minimal expectations. It's a really well done thing, ESPECIALLY considering it's running on your phone, but there are limitations and flaws.


Make sure you have at the very least some decent headphones. Using headphones makes a HUGE difference in VR. A Bluetooth controller isn't required for most apps in the store, but it doesn't hurt to have it for some games. Most apps control just fine with the touch pad, but there are a couple games that need one. I picked up a SteelSeries Stratus XL and it's sturdy and feels great, although it isn't rechargeable.

It's also not a bad idea to have a micro cloth and maybe some alcohol wipes and canned air on hand. You really want to make sure that there is as little dust, smudge on both sides of the lenses as well as on the screen, since you're gonna be seeing all of that really up close.


Now here are some apps that I've tried and I think are must have so far:

Introduction to Virtual Reality
A relatively short video of some clips that show you what VR is about.


Netflix
You're in a cozy cabin with a mountain view watching Netflix on a giant TV. Really immersive.


Oculus Video
You can stream different types of videos from facebook, twitch and vimeo and play them on a big screen in different settings like home theater, movie theater and even on the moon. Works in a similar way as the Netflix app.


Milk VR
Another streaming service, but without an immersive area where you're relaxing, just a floating screen. You can play downloaded VR videos through this app.


Cirque du Soleil's Kurios and Zarkana
I've never been interested in Cirque du Soleil, but seeing it up close in 360 and 3D is really neat. Zarkana is a really short part of it and Kurios is a 10 minute act. Really fantastic, immersive stuff.


Jurassic World: Apatosaurus
Short video where you're sitting on a log in the woods with a giant sauropod from the Jurassic Era comes out of the ground and asks for money. We was so scared, lord have mercy. WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM US, MONSTER?


Dreadhalls
Randomly generated dungeon crawler where you don't have weapons and are stuck with a bunch of nasty creatures. I love horror games and have been playing them for many years, but this one makes me really uncomfortable. Play with headphones.


Land's End
Kind of a mild puzzle experience with really nice, clean visuals. Very neat


StreetView VR
It's not 3D, but really cool to be able to just zap around the world and see 360 images of places where you've never been. Swipe up and you get a random location, swipe down and you can tell it where to go. Voice recognition has worked for me really well so far. There isn't any ambient audio in the app, so I recommend playing your own music before you start this.


There are a TON of different apps out there and a bunch that I haven't mentioned, so have fun with it when you get it.

There are actually two versions of the Stratus XL: one designed for use with Android and Windows, and one designed for use with iOS devices. There are some cosmetic differences and obviously some functional differences as well. If your current model works with your Apple TV it's probably the iOS version which doesn't behave correctly when used with the Gear VR platform (or Android in general).

I should have mentioned this but Android is everywhere in my life and iOS nowhere to be found so I'm a little blinkered (there's no philosophical stance involved, or misplaced devotion, it's just the way things turned out).

As for the controller you ordered it will almost certainly work it's just that some of the inputs might not be mapped correctly across all the experiences on the platform. Or maybe they will be.

http://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Stratus-Bluetooth-Wireless-Controller/dp/B015WKY3IM

This one works great with the S7 Edge. I have not had any luck connecting the PS3/PS4 controllers.

It's not a great sale. I'll post any deals here.

EDIT: I'm done for now. I think my post got removed?

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You'll probably be happy enough with this:

• https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Stratus-Bluetooth-Mobile-Controller/dp/B015WKY3IM/

Stratus XL is a good controller to get, blue tooth and works both on Android and your PC
It's not cheap :-( Also some of these games will heat up your Samsung real fast, esp the games using Unreal engine.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015WKY3IM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The best feature in my opinion not only the games but the huge movie theater, it's like you're actually there. Not sure why Netflix went the home 80" TV route but maybe there will be an upgrade eventually.

Not sure I'm clear on what you're looking for, is it something like this?

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Bluetooth-Controller-Classic-Joystick/dp/B018K3Q4KS

I use 8bitdo's NES30Pro. I only play retro games through Retroarch, but it's awesome. The phone is really heavy when using the clamp, however. Still better than on-screen controls of course.

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Bluetooth-Controller-Classic-Joystick/dp/B018K3Q4KS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1542337043&sr=8-1&keywords=nes30pro

Only if the DS4 is the only option, and it's not. There are a ton of Bluetooth controllers out there, in every layout you can imagine. Given the requirements here, I'd probably have gone with this model. It even looks suitably retro, so bonus.

Don't get me wrong here, what was done was undoubtedly cool and interesting. But it's also kind of reinventing the wheel.

I'll shill for my own company and recommend the Nimbus. I admit I'm a biased source but it is really an excellent Bluetooth controller.

Made for iPhone, I recommend the steel series nimbus controller. It’s really good

https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Nimbus-Wireless-Gaming-Controller/dp/B01AZC3III

Here’s a phone holder that clips onto it (made for Xbox one but it works for the nimbus also, I have it)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01MSX55FM/ref=pd_aw_fbt_147_img_2/130-8066462-7054113?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=6450NEVZ8QPCD7WND0FD

I picked up a used Nimbus for gaming on the iPad. It works for the most part. Some button issues though: https://smile.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Nimbus-Wireless-Gaming-Controller/dp/B01AZC3III

Also it only works on iOS devices so no use with your pc.

I posted earlier (sorry for duplicate comment!) but I use the Steelseries Nimbus. It charges with a lightning cable too. Great battery life.

It’s awesome.

This is the one I have. I like it a little too much haha. It's a bit pricey but it's a solid build and feels like an xbox controller. It definitely makes minecraft way more fun and easy to control on the ipad. I wish there were more games to use it with but then I would get nothing done

https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Nimbus-Wireless-Gaming-Controller/dp/B01AZC3III

Not OP but it’s the SteelSeries Nimbus Bluetooth Mobile Gaming Controller - Iphone, iPad, Apple TV - 40+ Hour Battery Life - Mfi Certified - Supports Fortnite Mobile https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AZC3III/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_eOVRDbJZTM4NH

I have it, it’s a nice controller but honestly? Just get a PS4 or Xbone controller. My biggest complaint with the Nimbus is the L3 and R3 buttons do not work on it. They press in, but nothing happens. I do not believe there is an actual switch there unfortunately. This makes remote PS4 play difficult for some games that use those buttons.

Otherwise if that is not a deal breaker for you it’s a fine controller. Good build quality, battery life, responsive, and just works out of the box with iOS.

With IOS devices you need a MFI controller. They will sync via Bluetooth.

I use the steelseries nimbus

If you want to use an actual stick, I'd say it's probably not worth getting the Alpha. Miniature sticks such as the Alpha and the Hori Fighting Stick Mini tend to be uncomfortable to use for extended periods of time, and are made using lower quality parts than full-size sticks. If you want a stick, the cheapest one I'd recommend would probably be the Qanba Carbon. I own one and it's a fairly nice stick for beginners. Technically it's not a PS4 controller, but Street Fighter 5 and a few other games support it in Legacy Mode. Check to see if the other fighting games you have support Legacy controllers. If they do, this is a great option for your price range. Otherwise, your next best bet is probably the Qanba Drone.

If you want a pad, the revamped fightpad pro is a good choice. I've never used one but the new model has gotten significantly better reviews than the problematic previous model. Personally I went with the Hori FC4, but the price has gone significantly up since that model isn't being manufactured anymore. The newer model is only $40 though, so that fits in your budget.

I 100% agree. Mine is pretty budget, spent half of what it looks like you did, and even with that step down it's better than a controller.

Personally I find that the double taps for IADs and such are infinitely easier on a stick. Plus I like the button arrangement better, especially for assists. It's so easy to forget about trigger buttons when you're learning the game.

I like the x52's (not the pro's)
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Saitek-Flight-Control-System/dp/B01LY285ZH/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1483327423&sr=8-7&keywords=hotas

I use and recommend the Logitech (formerly Saitek) X-52 Flight control system. Plus, the in-game control models mimic those of the HOTAS giving even more immersion in VR.

Try one of these. :D

What are you looking for in terms of flight control hardware? What kind of aircraft do you want to fly in? Also, what's your budged?

If you just want an inexpensive stick that covers all the basics, get a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Sets you back only ~$26 and will probably serve you well for a long time.

If you want to go for a realistic experience, I'd recommend getting the following hardware (ordered by importance, obviously subjective):

• A proper controller: Depending on what you want to fly there are several high-end control systems that will allow you to control your aircraft in a more realistic way. For military aircraft, you should take a look at the CH Fighterstick and throttle, the Saitek X52 Pro or, if you're rich, the Thrustmaster Warthog. I have no experience with the CH stuff, but I've owned several X52s over the years. It's true that you will probably not find a similarly featured controller for that price, but you should know that the X52 has some serious issues. More info here. Long story short, Saitek has some serious problems with quality control and your mileage with the X52 will pretty much depend on whether you get a good unit or not.
  The Warthog is insanely good, but also insanely expensive.
  If you want to fly general aviation aircraft, I recommend looking at the CH Yoke or the Saitek Pro Flight Yoke. Both are solid, affordable yokes that will make for a pretty good experience. If you want to get serious, keep an eye on the Iris Dynamics Force Feedback Yoke. It's not out yet, but it promises to be an affordable simulation-grade yoke with realistic force feedback - Keep in mind that "affordable" means ~$800 in this case.
  
  
• Head tracker: Head tracking is an absolute game changer. It will make your sim experience magnitudes more immersive and enjoyable. TrackIR 5 is probably the easiest way to get head tracking going, but it's pretty damn expensive. Also, NaturalPoint, the company making TrackIR, is frequently coming under fire for iffy business practices and anti-consumer behavior. Read more here. If you want an alternative, take a look at FreeTrack or FaceTrackNoir.
  
  
• Rudder pedals: A twisty stick is okay, but to get precise input you will definitely need proper pedals. I own Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals and I'm very happy with them. They are pretty comfortable and adjustable. If you want to go for realism, I'd recommend the CH Pedals - they have a much steeper angle and are closer to what you'd find in a real aircraft.
  
  
• Multiple monitors: Having three monitors is a definite plus. The wider field of view will definitely help you on the immersion front (having peripheral vision in your sim is pretty great) and in combination with a head tracker you'll get an awesome visual experience from them. If you want to go crazy, add a touchscreen to your setup like this guy. Keep in mind that running a multi-monitor setup requires a beefy GPU.
  
  
  As far as addons go, I unfortunately only have experience with FSX. For FSX there are some addons that I consider essentials:
  
  
• Accu-Feel: An amazing addon that adds lots of dynamic sounds and physics. Accu-Feel makes your sim feel much more authentic and fun.
  
• EZCA: A camera plugin that adds dynamic head movements and snap views. Works very well with TrackIR. EZCA will make turbulences, g-forces and ground movements feel much better.
  
• FTX Global: A graphics addon that gives FSX good ground textures, buildings, trees and more. Makes FSX look pretty nice even without tons of scenery/shader/texture packs.
  
• Active Sky Next: A weather addon that adds realistic weather systems, cloud textures and even friggin' tornadoes! Looks and feels much better than FSX's default weather.
  
  Sorry for not being able to recommend any X-Plane addons. I haven't tried that sim and have absolutely no experience with it.
  
  I hope you found something useful in this wall of text. Anyways, welcome back to the hobby, have fun! :)
  
  
  
  Edit: Swapped out the video with one that fits better.

Roughly $6000.

The biggest ticket item was the GTX690 ($999), and the three monitors ($324 each). We have about $1600 into the rest of the PC (512g SSD, 3.9ghz Intel Core i7-3770K, 16gb 1600mhz RAM).

The Saitek components are pretty reasonable, the FIP displays add up though. Here is a table of my spreadsheet, it doesn't include the cost of the GTX690, or the PC, or a few misc things like the keyboard.

| Item | Qty | Cost | Total |
|:-------|:------:|-------:|--------:|
| Saitek CES432100002/02/1 Pro Flight Cessna Yoke System | 1 | $165.78 | $165.78
|Saitek X52 Pro Flight System Controller | 1 | $138.99 | $138.99
|Saitek Pro Flight Cessna Rudder Pedals | 1 |$177.23 |$177.23
|Saitek CES432110002/06/1 Pro Flight Cessna Trim Wheel|1|$44.99|$44.99
|Pro Flight Instrument Panel| 6 | $123.38 | $740.28
|Saitek PRO Flight Radio Panel |1 | $120.52 |$120.52
|Saitek PRO Flight Switch Panel| 1 | $79.52 | $79.52
|TrackIr 5 Premium Head Tracking for Gaming |1 | $145.00| $145.00
|Logitech Wireless Gaming Mouse G700 |1 | $69.15| $69.15
|Plantronics GameCom 780 Surround Sound Stereo PC Gaming Headset |1| $57.24 | $57.24
|Playseat Flight Seat |1 | $499.00| $499.00
|ASUS PA248Q 24-Inch LED-Lit Super-IPS Professional Graphics Monitor| 3| $323.82 | $971.46
|Saitek PRO Flight TPM System |1 | $129.92 | $129.92
|Total | | |$3,339.08

I'll sell ya one for $100. I used it for about 6-8 months and really enjoyed it in various games but then I got VR and it's just sitting here collecting dust.

Sensor & Track Clip Pro with original packaging for 100 bucks, shipping not included. THIS is what is on offer and is what I paid for it when new ($140~).

There is a few game modes for this game in arcade AB and realistic RB the predominate method of flying your plane is mouse aim.

Using mouse aim AB + RB mode, you are give an autopilot that effective gets the plane to follow the direction of your mouse and he will prevent you pushing the plane too hard and entering a flat spins while banking too hard.

There is a third mode called simulator SB, in this mode the predominate method of controlling your aircraft is joystick. However the joystick, rudder pedals or other peripherals are half of the setup.

The other half of the set up is head tracking, as you need a means of moving the screen to keep track of your opponent while in a dogfight. You can attempt to use the mouse to move the camera but it will leave you one hand down in combat and it probably will not end well. A lot of sim pilots use head trackers such as Track IR for this purpose. There is alternative such as android application that use your phone attached to your head or other device.

I fly a little sim but I do not have head tracking so it makes it very difficult to compete against any other pilot with a level of skill, I get very lucky some times.

Thanks for the info!
Are you considering a replacement or are you going to stick with the edtracker?
I'm actually thinking about just buying another used phone with a working gyroscope. I can get a used Note 4 for around $200 on craigslist ...

Or what about something like this?

https://www.amazon.com/TrackIr-5-Premium-Head-Tracking-Gaming/dp/B0029M6VKA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1487658431&sr=8-3&keywords=edtracker

If you want to get a similar feeling for less expensive, you can always check out TrackIR. It's a sensor that mounts to your headset or hat and tracks your head movements so you can look around like in VR. Works great and I found a secondhand one on eBay for about $80. Brand New they're $130, but a used one should work just the same.

https://www.amazon.com/TrackIr-Premium-Head-Tracking-Gaming-PC/dp/B0029M6VKA/ref=asc_df_B0029M6VKA/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309892766843&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7584461253437923987&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031113&hvtargid=pla-406644911175&psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/TrackIr-Premium-Head-Tracking-Gaming-Pc/dp/B0029M6VKA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412263667&sr=8-1&keywords=trackir+pro

I would recommend against the farming sim wheel and go with something like the Logitech G920/G29. Just because it will be more compatible with other games such as Euro Truck Sim or other driving games. I also HIGHLY recommend TrackIR if you get a wheel. Using the mouse to look around is a major pain in the dick (trust me I did it for years).

Here's my setup right now. On the left I have a joystick I use for loader controls and stuff.

Were you trying to buy direct? It's only $135 on amazon. I have the pro clip as well, but I never use it. It's kinda junk. Hat clip works just as well.

alternately I know you can just buy the pro clip, and use it somehow with FTNIR and a PS3 Eye webcam which are like, $10-$13 but offer 60FPS recording - which helps a lot with the tracking.

I play ETS2 as well (picked it up during the Steam Winter Sale last year). It's a different experience for sure. I've delivered maybe a dozen loads so far? I put a TrackIR5 on my christmas list, and am hoping that makes it a little more enjoyable and makes the looking-around not so tedious.

TrackIR 5 This includes a clip that attaches to a hat that will use reflectors that track your head.

TrackIR 5 w/ TrackClip Pro This one includes the Trackclip pro which unlike the hat clip attaches to a headset and uses active IR LEDs as opposed to reflected light, it is slightly more accurate than the hat clip

X55 Rhino $200

X52 Pro $130

T-Flight HOTAS-X $50

HOTAS Warthog REALLY Expensive ~$400, one of the best sticks on the market, but you would also need to buy a set of Rudder pedals as this stick does not twist.

Saitek and CH Products make decent products. It comes done to knowing what you want to fly and reading reviews to know what to get. A lot of Saitek items have been discontinued and have higher prices now, but I think some of their com units are just awesome.

If you have the budget to get that build you initially shared and plus all the extras checkout these guys - LINK


Depends, Some cards can run 3 monitors and some only 2. You don't necessarily need them to share the same resolution but it helps. If you want to forego extra monitors this product is great for FSX.

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-Racing-Wheel-Legend-PlayStation/dp/B00FB5R1AQ/ref=sr_1_5?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1484629542&sr=1-5&keywords=racing+wheel

This is super cheap
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-Racing-Wheel-Legend-PlayStation/dp/B00FB5R1AQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1509985191&sr=8-1&keywords=ferrari+red+legend&dpID=41Iprv1E%252BvL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

But not terrible.
It does not do force feedback though.

Welp, I guess I'm spending more money.

I'm not seriously into racing games, I'm not going to spend $300 on a racing wheel so does anybody have one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-VG-Ferrari-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B00FB5R1AQ

Thanks, I appreciate the recommendation. Thrustmaster is certainly seeming like a good price-to-performance brand, though some have lackluster reviews it appears.

I personally can't justify spending hundreds on a proper wheel and I don't play a lot, so I got one of these second hand for €30 works fine for my needs

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-Racing-Wheel-Legend/dp/B00FB5R1AQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_11?keywords=game+steering+wheel&qid=1562058986&s=gateway&sprefix=game+steer&sr=8-11

I'm really broke but I really want to prepare something for Dirt Rally. Do you guys think this is a safe buy? I know it says PS3 but in the latest reviews it says that they were able to get it working on PS4. I really want a steering wheel for Dirt Rally but most are $300+ canadian.

Would this work? https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-Racing-Wheel-Legend-PlayStation/dp/B00FB5R1AQ/ref=sr_1_5?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1491412909&sr=1-5&keywords=ps4+racing+wheel&refinements=p_36%3A-20000

I got this one a couple weeks ago as my first wheel and so far it's been worth it the money. I'll definitely want to upgrade when I have the money but I think the thrustmaster is a great starter.

What about something like this?

^^^^^^^^^^^.


Category | Item | Description | FFB | Rotation | Pedal Count| Compatibility | Pros | Cons | Price $US | Reviews | /r/SimRacing threads | Notes
-----------|------|--------------|:----:|:---------:|:------------:|----------------|------|-------|-----------:|-----------|-------------------------|-
Wheel Pedal Combo|Thrustmaster VG | Basic wheel and pedal set with no clutch | No | Unknown | 2 | PC, PS3| 11 action buttons + D-Pad | No FFB, No Clutch, Plastic pedals | $69.99 | Amazon, | Link |
Wheel Only|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-
Pedal|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-
Cockpit|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-
Stand|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-
Mod|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-
Misc|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-
Wheel Pedal Combo|Thrustmaster T500RS|A step up in pedals over the other thrustmaster wheels in the list. Very similar to the 300, this thrustmaster is bigger, faster and stronger than the rest of the wheels in their lineup and also comes with a three pedal setup and Paddles (H-shift sold separately)|Yes|1080°|3|PC, PS3, PS4|Powerful, accurate force feedback|Brake pedal not awesome but aftermarket mods exist|$587.18|Amazon, ISRTV, Engadget|Link|Varies from game to game. In the event of upward compatibility with PS4™ racing games, it will only be recognized in the game, and not in the console’s menus.

Its only $70 on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-PowerShell-Controller-Battery-Generation/dp/B00FHREO8K/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1396289887&sr=8-4&keywords=iphone+controller

If you have an iPhone 5, 5s or SE, you could try this one: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-PowerShell-Controller-Battery-Generation/dp/B00FHREO8K.

I worked for me on my 5S. The only problem was the physical connection that sometimes would not connect properly to the lightning port. It doesn't use bluetooth.
I also didn't like the analog control.

kinda, only for the iphone though, as far as i can tell.

Looking at this Logitech and this Gamevice tho it's a great deal pricier.

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-PowerShell-Controller-Battery-Generation/dp/B00FHREO8K

I've used a Logitech PowerShell for RetroArch. It works great with all of the cores I've tested (SNES, GB, GBA, N64) and the built-in battery is nice. Plus it's MFi compatible so it works with much more than just RetroArch and other emulators.

They have ones like this.

A little bulky, but closer to what you're looking for!

I bought a Logitech Powershell Controller for $9.99 on Amazon. That's really cheap. It says that it doubles the charge of my phone too. I hope it works. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ol/B00FHREO8K/ref=mw_dp_olp

Can't you get the basic thrustmaster 3 pedal set for close to a $100? and like $150 for the pro set?

http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T3PA-3-Pedal-Pedal-xbox-one/dp/B00KX75W9O/ref=sr_1_14?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1463366625&sr=1-14&keywords=thrustmaster

http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T3PA-PRO-3-Pedal-Add--xbox-one/dp/B00UVN21IU/ref=sr_1_8?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1463366612&sr=1-8&keywords=thrustmaster

Here's the cheapest set of pedals i could find, other than that i cant find anything cheaper than $200 for a wheel

Get two t16000's and this racing wheel + pedals. You only really want the pedals from this set up but they are the best pedals you can get for cheap. The reason you get this wheel too is that if the pedals ever go, you can plug the t3pa's into that wheel. Someone might say that you should go with flight pedals instead, but you don't need the side to side rudder action that is the main function of flgith pedals and most flight pedals out there have serious drawbacks unless you shell out the big bucks. RIght stick x = yaw, y = pitch, z = roll. Left stick x = horizontal strafe, y = vertical strafe. Your pedals are set to forward and reverse strafe.

Just a heads up on that note... the pedal set and shifter I'm referring to are hard to find, on back order just about everywhere I've seen. But here they are for reference
Pedals:
http://www.amazon.com/T3PA-Wide-Pedal-Set-xbox-one/dp/B00KX75W9O/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1418398824&sr=8-5
Shifter:
http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-TH8A-Gearbox-Shifter-playstation-4/dp/B00MAXOTB6/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1418398824&sr=8-7

It's a great entry level wheel. I have one and really like it no real complaints other than the pedals are far too light.

I haven't bought them yet but I plan to upgrade to these pedals which are compatible with the T150.

check down at the bottom: https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T3PA-3-Pedal-Pedal-xbox-one/dp/B00KX75W9O?th=1

I also have the Saitek rudder pedals. I can't recommend them at all. I would consider the Thrustmaster pedals as their products seem better built.

Personally I'm looking at swapping out my dual Logitech 3D pros for dual Thrustmaster T16000m's and considering a set of racing pedals since I really only use the toe brakes on my rudder pedals for forward/reverse thrust.

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T3PA-3-Pedal-Pedal-xbox-one/dp/B00KX75W9O

I bought one as my first wheel a few months ago and it gets the job done for me. Just yesterday I bought T3PA pedals to replace the ones that came with the wheel but that's only because the gas pedal started to feel lose on the original pedal set.

Keep in mind this is the only wheel I've ever sim-raced with so I can't compare it to anything else and I'm sure someone else here has far more knowledge and personal experience with different wheels but, if you're just looking for a cheap-ish wheel to try out sim-racing, I'd recommend it.

Like I said take this with a grain (handful) of salt because I'm still pretty new to sim-racing and sim-racing peripherals

The T3PA pedals on Amazon only mentions compatibility with the Xbox One, can you confirm?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00KX75W9O/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480089212&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=t3pa&dpPl=1&dpID=41Q6YtoFQ1L&ref=plSrch#immersive-view_1480089219529

Ok. If I decide I can spend the money I will go with the T300. Just to be sure this is the wheel you are talking about right? They also have the Ferrari version, but it looks like it is probably the same wheel with a horse on it XD

• Saitek X52 Pro @ 1:55pm EST
  
• Thrustmaster VG T300RS @ 2:05pm EST
  
• Logitech Driving Force G29 @ 5:59pm EST
  
• Saitek PS28 X52 @ 7:59pm EST

you mean this? https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-playstation-4/dp/B00O8B7D02/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1511817307&sr=1-1&keywords=T300+RS That one has the shifters on the wheel?

I know this is a bit over your budget but go with T300 RS wheel for $298 (maybe you can find it cheaper somewhere) and go with [Fanatec ClubSport V3 pedals] (https://www.fanatec.com/us-en/pedals/clubsport-pedals-v3-usa.html) for $299. IMHO, pedals are way more important than a wheel. I have Logitech G29 and I upgraded my pedals to Fanatec ClubSport V3 and omg, what a difference. It's so much more consistent and better with good set of pedals. Also, the feel of brakes and accelerator is so much more better and the clutch is somewhat 50% close to a real car, which is far better feel than any other set of pedals out there for this price category.

yeah, full setup

http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-playstation-4/dp/B00O8B7D02/

hmmm

This one? http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-playstation-4/dp/B00O8B7D02/

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O8B7D02/]

Same link without the affiliate BS

I might, either that or a driving wheel and drive. The video I saw was pretty persuasive.

Personally I run with a G29 and a GT Omega Pro Cockpit RS9. I got the G29 2.5 years ago when they were £150 more expensive than they are now, and overall I spent about £400 on the cockpit and about £300 on the wheel.

Nowadays, you can probably get a G29 for £150-£200, and a low end racing stand for about the same, which would be in your budget.

G29: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Driving-Force-Racing-PlayStation/dp/B00Z0UWWYC

Thrustmaster T300RS: https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-playstation-4/dp/B00O8B7D02?th=1

(Bear in mind, the pedals are awful, very recommended to get another set, especially if you play other games that need a clutch)

Budget Racing Stand: https://www.gtomegaracing.com/wheel-stands/gt-omega-steering-wheel-stand

Racing Cockpit: https://www.gtomegaracing.com/gt-omega-racing-driving-simulator-cockpits/gt-omega-art-racing-simulator-cockpit-rs6

Providing you have a chair, that's probably the best you'll get on a budget for a wheel stand. It's a preorder though, so you will have to wait a week to get it.

Logitech \> Thrustmaster for wheels imo because they are so much more reliable. With TM, you're basically at a 50/50 whether it'll break in 2 years time, Logitech stuff run forever.

But overall, that's about $350, which is less than your budget. so if you want to spend the extra $200 on a higher end Racing Stand then it's obviously up to you. If I was in your position, I'd go with the G29 and the cockpit, but if you don't really play all that many racing games and this is just for GT, then I'd go G29 and the budget racing stand.

Sorry I'm an idiot, I may have forgotten to link the amazon address.

edit: while we are on the topic of T300.. has anyone tried insuring theirs with a warranty through SquareTrade? I am seeing a 3 year plan for "miscellaneous electronics" for $75, including accident protection ($50 without accident protection). Is this feasible to protect, as in, would they honor an insurance on this item?

edit 2: I just spoke with a sales specialist working with SquareTrade, and he informed me that even though they are an independent company, they are partners with Amazon, among other companies such as Target. With that said, he told me that if I wished to have this Amazon product insured by SquareTrade, I would need to speak with Amazon to see if they would offer the warranty plan. Doesn't make much sense to me, I'd imagine they could insure whatever they want, but that's what I was told.

These are probably worth the extra $50 Thrustmaster VG T3PA-PRO 3-Pedal Add-On Set https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UVN21IU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_BiplDb60283HF

Looks like the other Thrustmaster bits are also discounted.

T3PA-Pro ($115): https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T3PA-PRO-3-Pedal-Add-xbox-one/dp/B00UVN21IU/ref=pd_bxgy_63_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=WP5WNF466F3F66YK2Q9Y&th=1

TX Servo Base ($192): https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Racing-Wheel-Servo-Base-Xbox/dp/B014US043A/ref=pd_bxgy_63_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=WP5WNF466F3F66YK2Q9Y&th=1

HERE WE GO!

• Wheel base: $220
  
  
  
• Shifter: $180
  
  
  
• Pedals: $150
  
  
  
• Wheel rim: $200
  
  Grand total: $750
  
  
• Fanatec: $1000
  
  It's really not that far off when you consider that Fanatec is broadly considered higher quality than Thrustmaster. I was ready to go all-in on Thrustmaster before I added it all up and realized I might as well keep saving and get the Fanatec stuff.

If you haven't already found a similar deal, Amazon is selling the T3PA Pros for $99.99 today! Jump on it!

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-VG-T3PA-PRO-3-Pedal-Add-Set/dp/B00UVN21IU/ref=sr_1_8?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1480366675&sr=1-8&keywords=thrustmaster

I'm in Canada, maybe no sale where you are?

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00UVN21IU/?coliid=I32OTCXFSAP0BN&colid=1F4UO8WA03DXQ&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300RS-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-Racing/dp/B015KJ0SES/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479783267&sr=8-1&keywords=300rs&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T300RS-Officially-Licensed-Feedback-Racing/dp/B015KJ0SES/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479783267&sr=8-1&keywords=300rs&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-VG-T3PA-PRO-3-Pedal-Add-Set/dp/B00UVN21IU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1479783305&sr=8-2&keywords=T3PA

Has anyone tried using racing pedals for thrust in game? Specifically pedals like the Thrustmaster T3PA Pedals If you have done this, what kind of setup do you need for it to work?

Do you mean the T3PA-PRO pedals? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UVN21IU/

I've heard good things about them with the conical brake mod.

Here you go!

https://www.amazon.ca/Easyget-Encoder-Joystick-Illuminated-Buttons/dp/B00WAY9848/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468758152&sr=8-1&keywords=arcade+buttons

I've found some online that haven't been too bad for just the cabinet. From this site. I like some of the designs. But what you proposed is a good idea, of getting it cut at a local mill.

If you don't mind, I have another question. what is a good place to order joy sticks and buttons from? I found some on Amazon for $73, it comes with 2 8 way sticks, 20 LED lit buttons, wiring, and two control boards. Link do those sound okay, or would you recommend something else?

This was what I got, it had 2 full sets of buttons, joystick, and two usb encoders.

Easyget LED Arcade DIY Parts 2X Zero Delay USB Encoder + 2X 8 Way Joystick + 20x LED Illuminated Push Buttons for Mame Jamma Arcade Project Red + Blue Kits https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WAY9848/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_WrQiDbXE476WE

I used this kit from Amazon. The keycaps are removable to add button art and they light when pressed or can be wired to stay lit all the time. Works great and i've not had any lag issues or any other problems. https://www.amazon.com/Easyget-Encoder-Joystick-Illuminated-Buttons/dp/B00WAY9848

Should I just get a full Happ kit so it comes with everything included? If I buy everything separately, not sure if I will know how to assemble, whether I have all of the parts (gates, metal plates, wires, etc.)

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Edit: Honestly, can't find anything really worth getting.. considering this but not sure if it's a step-up from the stock stuff included: https://www.amazon.com/Easyget-Encoder-Joystick-Illuminated-Buttons/dp/B00WAY9848/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1540842142&sr=8-12&keywords=happ+buttons%20would%20something%20like%20this%20work%20and%20be%20a%20significant%20step%20up%20in%20quality%20from%20the%20stock%20buttons

Thanks! I normally use BING so I will see if google can provide better results. This is the first results..

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https://www.amazon.com/Easyget-Encoder-Joystick-Illuminated-Buttons/dp/B00WAY9848

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I am looking for just the led not the whole kit.

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back to BING i guess. Thank you!!

It's a Windows 10 computer and this is the controller: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WAY9848/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_MCKzG1wBcCPUo

I have four of these joysticks/buttons (they came in two sets of two), and only one of them is giving me this issue. I have no problem with any other emulator, just Retroarch.

Yes - while I love tinkering with hardware I'm so glad I bought these instead of assembling all the cords/solder points myself.

I'm getting another switched 4-port USB hub that I'm going to disassemble and Frankenstein into "push button to turn on each light gun and button/joystick set with LED lighting feedback" - but beyond that, I was much happier with the time investment of plug-and-play.

And yeah - taking apart a laptop would be tons of fun. I almost used my old iMac for that purpose, until I realized how underpowered it is by comparison. So I threw money at a processor ($180), a mobo ($45) and a 1GB video card ($35 LOL) and called it a day.

I'm sure at some point I'll even take the computer parts out of the cheap case I bought - but then cooling the entire cab becomes important and I ain't about that :P

This is what I purchased: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WAY9848/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I'm also just nervous about splicing the Jamma wires, I really liked the well labeled Jamma harness a didn't want to have to wait to get another one if I screw it up royally.

I think I have this sorted out. Let me explain what I was shooting for, in case anyone is thinking about a similar setup.

First, the goal was for a bartop setup with a pair of arcade-style sticks built in. I got these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WAY9848/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The set came with a pair of 'zero delay' USB encoders, that when hooked to the Pi together, produce the wonky results I described earlier. I finally found the solution in a previous post: https://www.reddit.com/r/RetroPie/comments/4p3uzo/2_zero_delay_usb_encoders_not_working_together/

The solution is a simple addition to a text file, noting the USB ID class of your type of controller.

The second goal of my build however, was to have a pair of external USB ports to plug in wired controllers like this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VAHYQY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 to play more console-centric games. The problem I kept running into is that many of the console emulators will only recognize the first two input devices. The external controller ended up always being #3 and wouldn't work.

The solution here is to use the USB port ordering on the Pi itself to dynamically (at boot time) reorder the controllers so you can use the one(s) you want. I can't find the link to the video I found describing the order, but if you're looking at the USB ports head-on, they are upper-left, lower-left, upper-right, lower-right ordered as 0, 1, 2, 3, respectively. RetroPi will number the controllers in that order, so generally anything plugged in to 0 and 1 are the inputs recognized by the console emulators.

In my situation for example, I wanted the SNES emulator to use the game pad(s) if plugged in, otherwise use the sticks. Since the zero-delay encoders needed extra power for the LED-lit buttons, I used the flat panel monitor's built-in hub to daisy chain them. The monitor's host USB connection went to port 2 (upper right) on the RPi. The two console controllers then, when connected, get ports 0 and 1 - making them the first two inputs.

Thanks for all that,

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Checked the USB inputs and re-plugged them in like your guide.

https://imgur.com/a/RdPkZ6d

One on the left with the little bit of twisty tie is Player 1

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Not sure if its relevant- have it all hooked up like this

https://imgur.com/a/HMYKMcQ

I bought this one from Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WAY9848/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

There's a main USB port at the end I have it plugged into- but also a 5 pin port marked USB

I assume its just the plug on the end- especially because its detecting the buttons when I config them.

The issue is when I load up a game, all buttons become 100% un-responsive.

From memory- when I hooked it all up yesterday- I actually had it working but only through player 2's select button- but since trying to map properly its all just gone downhill. Nothing works.

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Updated video where it shows me map buttons from scratch, and then load up SFII with nothing happening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghkvhs-qjSs&feature=youtu.be

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Thanks for your time trying to help!

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This kit should do the trick as long as I'm using a powered USB hub. It seems like the LEDs do draw too much power to stay on 100% of the time.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00WAY9848/ref=mp_s_a_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1500236255&sr=8-15-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=retropie+kit&psc=1

Did you mean this?

> I'm pretty sure Hori RAP 4 is a PS4 controller.



It is not a PS4 controller, it is a brand and version of fight stick


That being said though, I can understand older sticks having problems.

Sorry I linked the ps4 not 360.. here you go

I've got the RAP4 Kai and have absolutely fallen in love with it. This is everything I wanted in a stick after coming from a modded venom:

https://www.amazon.ca/HORI-Real-Arcade-Pro-PlayStation/dp/B00SULMRI4/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1468836167&sr=8-4-fkmr0&keywords=venom+fightstick

It's 180 CDN apparently. The RAP V Kai is a tenner more. Difference is in the placement of the stick vs the buttons and nothing more afaik.

https://www.amazon.ca/Arcade-Style-Fighting-Officially-Licensed-Microsoft/dp/B0136JP894/ref=sr_1_11?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1468836259&sr=1-11

EDIT: I use this on PC. If you get the PS4/3 RAP 4 you just have to install x360ce in the SFV folder. It'll detect the thing without issue and you can use it from there. No hassle really. I modded mine with sanwa buttons because I got used to them and the stick but I quite like the Kuro buttons and Hayabusa lever that come with it. The stick is actually surprisingly responsive ... might actually put it back in now that I think about it. Only reason to take the Kuro buttons out is that they're loud and I've gotten used to silent ones. If you're using non-silenced buttons atm they'll be the exact same.

Yes, that's the PS stick.

https://www.amazon.com/Arcade-Controller-Pro-V-Hayabusa-PS3-PS4/dp/B00S94RODA

This is the Xbox stick.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0136JP894/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467848905&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=pro+v+kai&dpPl=1&dpID=41Cv2bDjcAL&ref=plSrch

This is the one you have, correct?

http://www.amazon.com/HORI-Arcade-Pro-V-Fighting-Stick-Windows/dp/B0136JP894

As long as your pc can recognize it at all, x360ce should recognize it, which should in turn allow KI to recognize it.

Or you could use joy2key or xpadder, which let you map any controller input to keyboard inputs

Anyone know if this one is any good?
http://www.amazon.com/HORI-Arcade-Pro-V-Fighting-Stick-Windows/dp/B0136JP894/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1458139023&sr=8-4&keywords=Madcatz+Fightstick+Pro

Is this the Vewlix then? That's the one I got. Maybe I'm confused. I assumed that was the RAP 5 because there's a RAP 4, and that they were just calling it V instead of 5. I have been seeing Vewlix abbreviated as VLX, not V, but again I could be wrong as I'm just diving into this.

Hayabusa
https://www.amazon.com/Arcade-Hayabusa-Fight-PlayStation-Officially-Licensed/dp/B073C5PWS2/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1503846349&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=hori+rap+pro+v+kai

Rap V Kai
https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Arcade-Pro-V-Fighting-Stick-Windows/dp/B0136JP894/ref=pd_cp_63_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0136JP894&pd_rd_r=CQJFXC3BVVN356FYHPHB&pd_rd_w=vUm1m&pd_rd_wg=D5K50&psc=1&refRID=CQJFXC3BVVN356FYHPHB

I've tried with 3 different cables that I had and none of them worked. Unless all of those 3 cables were dead too. lol

But anyway, I've already replaced it with an X-One S Controller and a Steelseries controller (the fat one).

So I guess I'll try and just sell it someone. :p

EDIT: This one

Hi, I'm currently experiencing an issue with a wireless controller where it randomly is unresponsive for a few seconds. I'm on Windows 10 and the Controller I have is the SteelSeries Stratus XL. The bluetooth adapter I am using for my PC is an Asus. I am using this controller for GTA 5 on Steam

Links to the produicts:
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-USB-Adapter-Bluetooth-USB-BT400/dp/B00DJ83070
https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Stratus-Bluetooth-Wireless-Controller/dp/B015WKY3IM/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1485325492&sr=1-1

This controller has worked for everything I have tried to play:
Steel Series

This is one of the most highly rated mobile gaming controllers.

Fair enough. To answer your original question, the S8+ is technically compatible with the 2016 Gear VR but there are some slight fitment issues. The general consensus is that the 1027 2017 version fits and works better, so make sure you can find the model number of the Gear VR and that it matches the 2017 version.

Regarding cellular vs. non-cellular, I use a 2016 version with a carrier-locked Galaxy S7 edge that has the SIM pulled and it only uses WIFI. It works fine. I can't speak to the specific demo model you're talking about as I haven't used it, but it sounds like it should work. If the only difference is that the cellular radio doesn't work, but all other functionality (including Bluetooth and WIFI and the Oculus software) works, you should be fine.

Note that Bluetooth and WIFI being functional will be important. WIFI for downloads and Bluetooth for the remote and for controllers. It's possible that one or both of these will also have been disabled in the demo, so I'd confirm with the seller that both work before proceeding. That said, I've seen store demos that had functional Bluetooth and I'm not sure if it's a separate radio or not. I think it is, because I can put my phone into Airplane mode (disables all radios) and then enable Bluetooth and WIFI while Airplane Mode is still active.
However, given that we're in different markets, I'd still ask the seller first.

For controllers, I recommend the Steelseries Stratus XL or, even better, an Xbox 360 wireless controller. Note that the current version of the Xbox Elite Controller is not bluetooth (uses a dongle) so will not work with Android, so stick with the non-Elite for now. There's supposedly a new version of the Elite controller about to be released that uses Bluetooth instead, but I haven't seen any confirmation on release date as yet.

Good luck!

Edit: typo.

Pretty much everyone recommends the SteelSeries Stratus. It's a very well made Bluetooth controller and it's about $10 cheaper than the Xbox One S controller. Personally I wouldn't spend less than $30 on a controller. Quality is important, trust me.

While I actually prefer keyboard + mouse for most games, the Steelseries XL is my favorite PC controller (because sometimes I don't want to sit at a desk to game). A bit of an XBox controller shape, but with the Playstation button/stick layout (having the sticks straight across from each other has always made more sense to me).
https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Stratus-Bluetooth-Wireless-Controller/dp/B015WKY3IM/


The Steam Controller takes a bit of getting used to, but is great for games that weren't designed for a controller as it acts as a trackpad. It is the one I use if I play Civilization on the couch:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/353370/Steam_Controller/

Thanks for the response :)

Is this the one?
https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Stratus-Bluetooth-Wireless-Controller/dp/B015WKY3IM

Looks nice

I use the Steel Series Stratus XL. LINK

Fantastic, thanks. I just got a controller and love it, but was looking for good ways to use it.

Here's what I ordered from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015WKY3IM

Here you go. Not only is it functional with all of the emulators and even samsungs gear vr and googles daydream, but it also works as a PC game controller for windows. I have this one and its amazing. I stream the phone screen to the TV with google chromecast and have a emulator box for my tv or play on the go with my phone screen.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015WKY3IM/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1503925664&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=steelseries+xl&dpPl=1&dpID=41gtJuphQML&ref=plSrch

Google “MFi controller iOS”. They have been around for years. This is currently the best one:

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B015WKY3IM/ref=mp_s_a_1_8/130-7545085-4725126?ie=UTF8&qid=1520588683&sr=8-8&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=mfi+controller&dpPl=1&dpID=41x16tZUw4L&ref=plSrch

I want to get a tablet that can hook up to the tv and run emulation through android. Is there minimum specs I should be looking for

Also was wondering what everyone's favorite Bluetooth gameplay was I have been looking at this but there seems to be mixed review
8BITDO NES30 Pro Wireless Bluetooth Controller Dual Classic Joystick For Android Gamepad - PC Mac Linux https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018K3Q4KS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_pMbyxbRGYDAS6

8BITDO NES30 Pro Wireless Bluetooth Controller Dual Classic Joystick For Android Gamepad - PC Mac Linux https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018K3Q4KS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_n1bIxbC8F5851


They are excellent

How about here
8BITDO NES30 Pro Wireless Bluetooth Controller Dual Classic Joystick For Android Gamepad - PC Mac Linux https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018K3Q4KS/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_1qODxbAYC30SP

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Bluetooth-Controller-Classic-Joystick/dp/B018K3Q4KS/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=n30+pro&qid=1550420893&s=gateway&sr=8-8

Looks the same

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Bluetooth-Controller-Classic-Joystick/dp/B018K3Q4KS

doesn't have to be a full size controller. This thing fits easily in a pocket.

8BitDo Page - NES/Famicom 30 Pro

Amazon - NES 30 Pro

Imgur - Size comparison

Just get one of these 8BitDo SNES controllers: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0748S3GXG

They're great (disclaimer: I actually have the NES version--https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018K3Q4KS--but should've gotten this one for its superior L and R buttons).

It's Bluetooth, so while you can pair the device and map controls, it's not really recommended. Get one of the following instead:

https://www.amazon.com/Buffalo-iBuffalo-Classic-USB-Gamepad/dp/B002B9XB0E

https://www.amazon.com/Retro-Bit-Official-Controller-RetroPie-Raspberry/dp/B07NZ2T32L

https://www.amazon.com/Retro-Bit-Official-Controller-8-Button-Raspberry/dp/B07P2B7SKH

https://www.amazon.com/DualShock-Wireless-Controller-PlayStation-Black-4/dp/B01LWVX2RG

https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Nimbus-Bluetooth-Mobile-Controller/dp/B01AZC3III

That's flat out false. This controller made by SteelSeries charges via a female lightning port using standard lighting to USB cables.

haha yeah, all of a sudden these look useful

I use this one, and it seems to work great so far. I bought a separate mount for my phone that clips onto it:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AZC3III/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_o3hYBbC1KXQTE

Man. I seriously didn’t know there were 2 sizes. The small one looks like a controller for a kid. How much was the difference between the 2 since you picked the smaller 1?

Is this the same one with the big one photo?
https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Nimbus-Wireless-Gaming-Controller/dp/B01AZC3III/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1542940823&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=steelseries+controller&dpPl=1&dpID=41eDqC65wGL&ref=plSrch#

There's the Xbox One S or a Dualshock 4 controllers. They're both Bluetooth and people sell mounts for them for your phone like this: https://www.amazon.com/Nyko-Smart-Clip-PlayStation-DUALSHOCK-Controller/dp/B00FLLFGO8?

Otherwise, I use a 8Bitdo SN30 Pro which has a seperate phone clip designed for it: https://www.amazon.com/XFUNY-Bracket-8Bitdo-Handgrip-Telescopic/dp/B078TWMQFM/ . It's a smaller controller and easier to fit in my pockets than the proper DS4/XBOX controllers.

Though I think the real problem is you're on iOS, and Apple doesn't allow Bluetooth controllers that aren't on their MFi program to work on iOS. Searching on Amazon for mfi controller, looks like Steelseries has a few. But I've got no experience with that.

Steel Series Nimbus
Steel Series Nimbus

I bought this one:

SteelSeries Nimbus Wireless Gaming Controller for Apple TV, iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, Mac https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AZC3III/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_yNiRzbW8ACDWB

Came yesterday. I bought a used one for 30 bucks. Worth it for sure..it looks and feels like an Xbox controller..and there are no R3 and L3 but if you double click on the analog on the screen on your phone it works. I'd recommend buying it..felt really good and is worth the price imo.

Yea, I don't see one for that low now, but there is a seller with a refurbished Nimbus for $30. The seller seems to have a good rating and overall appear reliable.

The on screen controls actually didn't seem bad to me. But I play with a steel series nimbus controller and it's a great mobile experience.

Edit: also the actual gameplay has been awesome so far. I play on an iPhone 7 and I haven't had any problems.

Get the Qanba Drone dude. I think that works on PC too and it's a better stick. You can also mod the Drone and it's from a more reputable stick maker. You could also look for a Qanba Carbon which is the same body as the Qanba Q1, which was one of my first sticks and worked great. Here's a link to it: https://www.amazon.com/Qanba-Carbon-PC/dp/B01HSQE7IY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1509745297&sr=8-1&keywords=Qanba+Carbon&dpID=51YOF%252BhjYBL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

It also has clamps that you can clamp it onto a desk with which is pretty cool and works better than you might think it would. It's also cheaper.

In terms of games to play, Street Fighter V or Guilty Gear Rev are where you want to be. Street Fighter, despite all the complaints people have, is the game with the biggest playerbase, so you will find the most resources for that game. Guilty Gear has some of the best ingame resources for learning, and plenty of out of game resources so it also an excellent place to start.

As for prehipherals, if you want to try out stick on PC, I've heard the Qanba Carbon ($60) is a good place to start. I personally ordered one last week, can't report on the quality until it comes in, but the reviews are good. If you want a controller and are willing to learn dpad, the Hori Fighting Commander ($40) is the best pad on the market, I own one and it feels/plays fantastic. Also the fighting commander has ps3/ps4 support if you want to play in tournaments (most are played on ps4).

I was recently looking for my first fight stick and, like you, was looking for something more affordable. After doing some research I finally settled on the Qanba Carbon. It's right at $60, and I've been really impressed with it so far. Now granted I haven't played on any other fight stick than this, so I have nothing to compare it to, but it's been great so far. Also, it's important to note that this isn't a universal stick, but it works for ps3, pc, and android.

With your budget in mind, here are some good beginner sticks.

(Mayflash F300) https://www.amazon.com/Mayflash-F300-Arcade-Joystick-Switch/dp/B019MFPLC0/ref=pd_sbs_63_t_0/147-2143418-9487810?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B019MFPLC0&pd_rd_r=850f71c3-12f3-479d-aac1-69d0f32fda49&pd_rd_w=VtNSv&pd_rd_wg=vzPMH&pf_rd_p=5cfcfe89-300f-47d2-b1ad-a4e27203a02a&pf_rd_r=EQJP8AR3AS1E1QWPAT8S&psc=1&refRID=EQJP8AR3AS1E1QWPAT8S

(8Bitdo N30) https://www.amazon.com/8Bitdo-Arcade-Stick-Nintendo-Switch-Android/dp/B073ZNXFL6/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=fightstick&qid=1569978597&s=videogames&sr=1-11

(Mayflash F101) https://www.amazon.com/MAYFLASH-Arcade-Stick-F101-Switch/dp/B07D26RD9P/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp?keywords=fightstick&pd_rd_i=B07D26RD9P&pd_rd_r=727a3787-e63a-48e9-8173-6001f7c159bd&pd_rd_w=TQzqX&pd_rd_wg=h6CZ7&pf_rd_p=a6d018ad-f20b-46c9-8920-433972c7d9b7&pf_rd_r=JTASZW07A36KMRB18S4Q&qid=1569978700

(Qanba Carbon) https://www.amazon.com/Qanba-Joy-Stick-Carbon-PS3-PC/dp/B01HSQE7IY/ref=sr_1_39?keywords=fightstick&qid=1569978731&sr=8-39

The last one is only PS3 and PC compatible so in the case if you plan on getting the carbon and want to use it on a ps4, you'll have to get a brook ps3 to ps4 converter for it.

Can't find the hardware thread so

First off lemme say that no one I know is dropping $120+ on something for little ol' me.

But if someone will spend a little less and then I can plunk some better buttons in there, that sounds great to me. I'm looking at these 4 options right now:
https://www.amazon.com/Qanba-Controller-Fight-Stick-Drone-PS4/dp/B01I0GEDEY/

https://www.amazon.com/Carbon-PlayStation-Android-X-Input-D-Input-Joystick/dp/B01HSQE7IY/

https://www.amazon.com/Mayflash-Arcade-Fightstick-Joystick-F300/dp/B019MFPLC0/

https://www.amazon.com/Qanba-Q1-PS3-Joystick-Fightstick/dp/B00BXPIO1S/

Doesn anyone have any experience with these out of the box and after modding? Any issues? I will also be using this to play GG and possibly BB if that makes any difference.

Hi there! Please remove everything in your links after ref= including ref=. If you'd like a copy/paste:

https://www.amazon.com/Qanba-Controller-Fight-Stick-Drone-PS4/dp/B01I0GEDEY

https://www.amazon.com/Carbon-PlayStation-Android-X-Input-D-Input-Joystick/dp/B01HSQE7IY

https://www.amazon.com/Mayflash-Arcade-Fightstick-Joystick-F300/dp/B019MFPLC0

https://www.amazon.com/Qanba-Q1-PS3-Joystick-Fightstick/dp/B00BXPIO1S

Not only does this make your post much easer to read, it also removes any unintentional advertising links.

We're going to keep this post removed until you can edit, thanks!

Excellent answer, thanks.

I have the following coming this week:

Qanba joy stick

Sanwa GT-Y Octagonal Restrictor

Sanwa JLF-TP-8YT-SK OEM Red Ball Top Handle Arcade Joystick

Basic, middle of the road stuff. I was thinking of doing one of those Raspberry pi inside of a fight stick setups, but I kind of like the look of the Vilros mini NES.

Thanks again for the response.

What about your thoughts on this ?
Logitech G Saitek X52 Flight Control System

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Saitek-Flight-Control-System/dp/B01LY285ZH/ref=pd_sbs_147_4?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01LY285ZH&pd_rd_r=6BZRZNHZ298DQGQYZ1P3&pd_rd_w=hWqhD&pd_rd_wg=XpoZK&psc=1&refRID=6BZRZNHZ298DQGQYZ1P3

The X52 is in that price range if I recall. Been using mine for a couple of years now with no issues. Had to remove the indent in the throttle because it was driving me crazy but thats really easy to do.

I really want a full yoke and pedal setup to make life easier for simming but the X52 works really well abd is leaps and bounds over the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro I used to use.

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Saitek-Flight-Control-System/dp/B01LY285ZH/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1542501836&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=saitek+52&dpPl=1&dpID=41aijb9PAtL&ref=plSrch

Well, if you've got some pretty deep pockets, go for the VirtualFly "YoKo The Yoke". It's very high quality but comes with a $900 price tag. There's not really a "middle ground" with yokes. It's "really good and expensive" or "not the best but also won't bankrupt you". There are some things like the CH Yoke and the Saitek Pro Yoke that aren't very expensive but might have some QC issues. The Pro Yoke is known to have a dead area in the middle and the shaft
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) sometimes has sticking issues when the aileron axis is deflected left or right.

In terms of joysticks, I use a 6 year old Logitech Extreme 3D Pro I got for 30 bucks. There's more higher-quality, lower-cost stuff in this range. The Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS is the best in this category, for half the price of the YoKo yoke. There's also the Saitek X52, X55 and X56 lineup in terms of higher quality stuff. The X52 can be found for about $150 but doesn't really have all the bells and whistles of the X55 and 56. The X56 is the same thing as the X55 but with RGB lighting. The X55 seems rather difficult to find as of late, with then X56 being about $250 from Newegg.

It also depends on what you fly. For GA I recommend a yoke, and for airliners pretty much anything will do.

Edit: Fixed positioning of Lenny face

I was skeptical but hopeful for years, until I saw Hurston and Lorville get released, and I finally jumped in both-feet during the end of the last Anniversary sale. Player-generated clips like this one and this one definitely helped convince me... I mean look at that, it's all actually there in the game, nothing is a backdrop only for viewing from that spot on some map, that sun isn't rising, the earth-sized planet you are on is spinning in space.

My biggest suggestion: get a proper HOTAS, or at least a stick with a throttle on it and some good base-area buttons - I use an old Saitek X-52 that interestingly enough is being re-released in a few weeks. There are some serious mil-sim level ones out there too. The T-Flight Hotas X and T16000M are popular for the budget-minded (although Star Citizen will rapidly change your mind about what "sensible expenditure" in a game means lol). Get a used one if you want a killer one but can't afford new (seriously though, $60 man, very worth it), but it's a huge help not having to go to keyboard commands for anything flight-related, including targeting, countermeasures, scanners, thruster controls, etc. When hopping out of your flight seat (either to do something in your ship or get out of it entirely), just have the mouse and keyboard positioned to either side of the flight stick, easy. You'll use the mouse in the cockpit a fair bit too, to interact with the MFDs sometimes for things like requesting landing clearance, changing MFD functions, overclocking components on the ship, etc,. It's the most immersive sci-fi flight/FPS/society game I've ever seen.

I'd highly recommend to get in as soon as they announce Update 3.5, adding the entirely new planet ArcCorp, its main landing area for spaceships Area 18, several moons, and the long-awaited new flight model, go Public Live in a few more days. Fly your starter ship (I recommend the Avenger Stalker starter ship or the Cutlass Black package for the bit of cargo space you get, helps make a little money and can still fight ), enjoy a bit of mission running, exploration etc, and learn the world, and when the next massive Anniversary Sale comes around in November you'll know what ships you really want and can make informed decisions, as the sales they have at that time are awesome.

Whatever starter package you get, it'll need to be a "Game Package" that includes the base game as well, and after that one-time buy you just buy standalone ships or packages if you want to pay real money, or you can buy many of them in-game for game-money (UEC) if you make enough (many good ones are millions of UEC). The advantage of paying real money is that they will be with you forever - as they make major updates CIG usually resets all accounts to starter levels again, and you lose anything you earned in that version of Alpha - but you also have many advantages in Alpha that will not be present in the final game so still worth it to buy cheaper ships in-game IMO.

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I'm in the US, but I ordered it from Amazon so I can return it if there's issues; how can I test for the calibration issues - just hop in and see if it syncs up?

It's the Logitech G X-52 - Amazon link

I just got into this game recently, and have been really enjoying it. I've been looking into getting a HOTAS, and I think I've narrowed it down to two models, but I have concerns about both of them.

The X52 Pro seems quite nice, but I'm a bit concerned about the QA, I've heard a lot of them fail (especially recently with logitech), is there any truth to that?

The other one I've been looking at is the Thrustmaster T.16000M which seems to have really good build quality and an excellent throttle, but I'm a bit worried the joystick doesn't really have enough buttons for elite. Any advice on which way to go (or a different way entirely) would be appreciated!

A pretty solid choice is always the TM T.16000. You're really not going to get anything worth having in the sub-100 range new. If you're looking for something a bit more, the Logitec X52 pro (don't touch the non-pro, it has bad QA issues) is a great middle-ground HOTAS with good durability and features. If you can find an X52P used, you'll spend roughly T.16000 price that'l probably end up lasting longer.

Although it's worth mentioning, the A8 in your computer probably won't be too happy playing a whole lot of anything. Money would be better spent on upgrades.

Get'em while they're hot ...

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Saitek-X52-Flight-Controller/dp/B01LZ1MQTL/ref=dp_ob_title_ce

https://www.amazon.com/Saitek-X52-Flight-System-Controller/dp/B000LQ4HTS

Edit: Opps ... didn't fully read your post ... mobile phone :P

Re the PS2 cable: I don't know if the cable is the same as a PS2 standard cable, I recall giving away my old X52 to a mate and giving him a standard PS2 cable but he said it was a different pin-out, so buying spares from an electronic store / PC store may be an option if you modify the wiring and use the original connectors. You could also look at making a base plate for both the Stick and Throttle with guides to secure the ends of the cable. There's lots of options you can explore.

Apologies if questions about gear/peripherals aren't allowed.

I'm loving this game but the KBM controllers are starting to get annoying now that I'm playing more frequently again. I'm looking at HOTAS but I'm just not sure what I should be looking for in this kind of controller.

Right now I'm leaning towards the T-1600M throttle/joystick as it fits my budget the best.

I've found multiple sources that say the X52 Pro is one of the best sticks for Elite, although I'm skeptical of the $70 price hike being worth it.

Will the T-1600M work well for playing Elite, or should I save for a little while longer and jump for the X52 Pro?

In case it's relevant, right now I'm predominantly exploring in the game, though I'm hoping to get more into the combat side of things.

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To be fair, I want a hotas. I just want a mildly expensive one.

Cant comment on the 2 you listed but the Logitech X52 PRO is on sale right now for $99 on amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LZ1MQTL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_TI1MAbMEQSZ95

I have the non-pro version and love it. Enough buttons for just about everything.

I play on a full HOTAS setup, including the chair. Just getting a HOTAS changes the game completely, it's so much more responsive with a joystick and throttle.

You can get a HOTAS for only $40 so it's not thunderingly expensive. But if you want the HOTAS that they literally use in the ship cockpits, it'll cost you about $200.

There are Voicepacks that you can download that allow you to do ship controls via voice, and changes the AI voice that responds to you to certain people (i.e you can have William Shatner become your ship's computer).

I saw that Thrustmaster is finally releasing the HOTAS that was previously only available on PC and PS4 for the X1, which is awesome. I bought the X-52 Pro for my Oculus setup and it just enhances the realism. The in-game throttle and stick were actually modeled after the X-52 pro. So the buttons you press on the HOTAS are mimicked in-game almost 1-to-1. It's uncanny.

I hope with the new HOTAS for X1 there will be more people that give the game a try. Personally I tried the game when it first came out in Game Preview in 2014 but just couldn't enjoy it with a standard controller. Having the HOTAS + VR has made it one of the best games/experiences I've ever had. I just hope that VR will become available for the X1 in the near future so more people can experience this stuff.

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By the way, the 360 dongle doesn't cost as much as the steam controller. I have this one, it's $14 atm.

If you do decide on the steam controller, Amazon has it with the carry case for the same price as they have the controller by itself. Here.

Also, adding on about the controller, at this point I've had two other people (who don't play a lot of games) try the controller and they picked it up easily. It seems like the biggest issue people have is unlearning other controllers, rather than learning the new one.

It's also possible that part of it is the fact that trackball emulation is the best way (imo) to control the camera via the controller. One of the two people, the one who picked it up easier, regularly uses a trackball to play games already and was used to the way it responded. In fact, I used a trackball to play games for a long time as well. Maybe that's part of why some people learn to use it easier than others. I'm not sure, I'm rambling anyway. The point is that it takes a bit of effort to unlearn how you play with other controllers.

I'd love to know what you decide though. The steam controller is superior, in my opinion, except for the lack of a physical d-pad. That's just about the only downside and I can make do with that since I don't play a lot of platformers and the radial menus make waaaay better quick selects.

Steam Controller + case for $35 is probably the best deal I've seen.

The best and cheapest solution is a Dualshock 4 controller, give it a try i personally went from fightsticks back to controllers. If you really wanna get into fightsticks then choose one of these:

1. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06WWMFL56/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2Y60EJ5VI534L
   
   
2. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Obsidian-Joystick-PlayStation-Fighting-Officially/dp/B01N9JMYPX/ref=pd_cp_63_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=9ACNS7WRHAX9BGRQ3384
   
   
3. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Official-PlayStation-Licensed-8-Button-Arcade/dp/B00NHDSINS/ref=pd_cp_63_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=9ACNS7WRHAX9BGRQ3384 default buttons and joystick suck so i suggest replacing them with sanwa or seimitsu ( will cost you an extra 35 euros from ebay )

These are the best sticks at the moment for ps4, IMO.


Hori Real Arcade Pro 4 Kai $150 (black/white/blue/red) (Hori / Sanwa / Seimitsu)

This stick has a Hori branded joystick and buttons (Hayabusa & Kuro) Hayabusa has a good feeling, even considered slightly better than Sanwa by some.

Kuro buttons are quite a different feeling, they are matte with less sensibility than sanwa and have more travel from pressing the button to reach the bottom and being detected.
Most people get rid of their Kuro buttons and swap with Sanwa's tbh, but some like it.

Arcadeshock sells these sticks already modified with Sanwa or Seimitsu parts for some $10 bucks more.

Amazon

Arcaseshock


Qanba Obsidian $200 (Full Sanwa) - Side leds, made more of metal. Shiny, solid, wide and looks cool.

Arcadeshock

Amazon

Razer Panthera $200: (Full Sanwa) - Front button to open and easly access the stick, lower input delay than other sticks (except Broo's UFGB).

Razer

Amazon

Qanba Dragon $300 (Full Sanwa) - Unnecessarily expensive, stick is a tank, easy open design and like 90% of full metal body.

Arcadeshock

Amazon

Hori Real Arcade Pro V. Premium VLX $300 (Black/Red) (Hori parts) - So big it's uncomfortable to travel with, playing with it feels awesome I got one.
Cons are the joystick sounds a little bit too hollow when moving around (you can get used to tho) and has tons of input delay. With some modifications (changing the PCB with a UFGB and Kuro for Sanwa buttons) it's an awesome stick.

Arcadeshock

Amazon

Why you think fightstick is going to make you better? I went through the same thing when i was silver and it didn't make a difference at all. Wasted 2 months until i felt comfortable with it and then switched to Dualshock 4 witch im using till today.

Anyway i would suggest this https://www.amazon.com/Obsidian-Joystick-PlayStation-Fighting-Officially-4/dp/B01N9JMYPX

well im assuming you are from the USA(please correct me so i can giv you appropriate advice and prices) The Mad Catz TE2+ is onsale for $179 a great premium stick with all the features i listed i paid $300cnd for mine and love it it recomend it over the panthera because they are so similar, but if u want a bigger sturdier base go for the mad catz, if u want a smaller one the panthera.

the qanba obsidian is $180us a great deal

This is a solid deal. I bought this with stock pedals for the same price a year ago. Those pedals are worth ~$100 alone. https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T150-PRO-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B06XP1JZ53

I think it is. From what I've read the pedals of the G29 are 100x better. I found the G29 for $199 and the best I've found with the Thrustmaster 150 Pro (medal pedals) was $202, the regular t150 with the plastic pedals is $149.

Links:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/logitech-g29-driving-force-racing-wheel-for-playstation-3-and-playstation-4-black/4223000.p?skuId=4223000

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T150-PRO-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B06XP1JZ53?th=1

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA?th=1

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T150-PRO-Racing-Wheel-PlayStation/dp/B06XP1JZ53/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=t150&qid=1562433202&s=videogames&sr=1-4

the T150 is the same wheel, that's the pro model, for $199, so cheaper than the TMX even though it's literally the same wheel.

If you want to buy a new one, then probably the T150+T3PA set fits exactly in your limit. The pedals are really worth it compared to the stock pedals that come with the regular T150.

You could also try to keep an eye on a used T300 or T500 that might sell around this price range.

I personally use a HOSAS (not a HOTAS), which is two joysticks, two Thrustmaster T.16000Ms to be precise. It's not really usable for flight sims, but for E:D it gives you full control over all six degrees of movement. If you fly with flight assist off (it's terrifying in VR, but so worth it!) you get control over all three axes of rotation and all three axes of movement. Looking on Amazon you can get a two pack for $90!

try HOSAS with some cheap units first, then you can drop big dollars if you like it.

Thrustmaster HOSAS for about $100 if you wait for a sale.

I recently upgrade from a pair of T16000ms to a VPC Warbrd for my right hand, and a Constellation Delta for my left.

The VPC stuff is some of the very best that you can buy. Having spent the money though, I can feel super good about recommending the T16000ms. If you want two sticks they are great for the cost!

Thrustmaster VG Thrustmaster T 16000M SPACE SIM DUO STICK - HOSAS - PC; https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076XKZML8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_filYBb1CW29F4

Best I've ever had plenty of buttons to map to. Leftsticks all strafe, throttle and flight controls (safeties and power) right is offense defense and ships attitude control (roll yaw and pitch)

IF you are perhaps interested in dual sticks, which i HIGHLY recommend for games like Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous, much more than a typical HOTAS setup... Amazon has dual T16000m's on sale for 90 bucks... thats a great price, IMO. https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-16000M-SPACE-SIM-STICK-pc/dp/B076XKZML8/ref=sr_1_25?keywords=thrustmaster&qid=1559234690&s=gateway&sr=8-25

You can spend $114 and get a pair of T.16000Ms. HOSAS is way better IMO for space flight than HOTAS.


Dual T16Ks

Depends on preferred playstyle.

Personally I would always recommend dual stick.

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-16000M-SPACE-SIM-STICK-pc/dp/B076XKZML8?ref_=bl_dp_s_web_2530623011

I can't think of a decent Xbox One stick at that price. Maybe EVO weekend something may go on sale, but you may be best off getting a Mayflash F300 and upgrading the buttons and stick when you see fit or getting a Mayflash F300 Elite which already comes with Sanwa parts.

Mayflash F300 Elite on Amazon

For a nice all-in-one cheap solution, I'd go with the Elite F300.

If you're willing to mod, then I'd suggest a 8bitdo N30 w/ Sanwa buttons and Sanwa joystick. This will give you the same as above but with bluetooth and I'm pretty sure it will eliminate the need for an extra controller to get it hooked up to xbox/ps.

If you're looking for something bigger but still cheap, then I would have to suggest a used Razer Panethera or Hori RAP 4 on Amazon for about 100-130. The returns on Amazon Warehouse are usually people who tried the stick for an hour or two and didn't care for it. They're usually pretty damn nice and offer around 30-40% discount. I once got a "used" display shelf that still had all the protective material on and around the shelf, like the sticker kind that you can't re-apply... so I guess somebody literally just opened the box and said well nevermind and returned it.

Thank you. According to Mayflash the joystick & buttons are all Sanwa. Here’s the amazon page:

https://www.amazon.com/Elite-Arcade-Stick-Android-Switch/dp/B07CXJ77DT

I am pretty sure Amazon would not sell it if it was not genuine. There a quite a few positive reviews too (Amazon & YouTube). This stick was the perfect option for me, Sanwa components without modding for under £100. Only other options would be the Razer Panthera which is £200 and which I don’t like as it has the 8 way octagonal gate which is not standard in Japan.. or, the Qanba obsidian which is same price but has the standard Japanese square gate (which I am determined to get used to & have always used with my old Hori sticks). I will probably go Qanba in the future.

For now I will get a replacement from Amazon and hope for the best. The one I have at the moment, other than the popping and momentary button failure (which has happened once so far), has been good. I just don’t feel it is acceptable with Sanwa’s status & reputation. I understand the button issue may be a PCB problem- which won’t be Sanwa then (I guess that what you meant by it being Mayflash also). But the joystick issue is odd then, unlucky as it will be a Sanwa issue probably.. Maybe I should have just modded a fightstick, but then if any issues I could not return it, unless I paid double for the razer panthera or Qanba Dragon, which allow modding without voiding the warranty I think.

Anyhow getting into my fightsticks seriously now, so won’t give up. Back to my Hori’s until I resolve this issue.

F300 Elite Arcade Stick F300 Elite for PS4/PS3/XBOX ONE/Xbox 360/PC/Android/S... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CXJ77DT/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_U_x_Gmb.BbJGSQYQR via @amazon

After doing some digging, I actually found an "Elite" edition of the F300 which comes with a Sanwa joystick and buttons. Although I'm not as experienced as you are, it's relatively cheap and works on both PC and Switch. What are your thoughts on it?

https://www.amazon.com/Elite-Arcade-Stick-Android-Switch/dp/B07CXJ77DT

Hey, bit late, but if you're still looking at these sticks, one of the newest "best cheap sticks" is the Mayflash F300 Elite. It's basically an F300 with sanwa parts already installed which is nice. I've had mine for a few weeks now and it's held up fine. It's pretty compact too which is nice for travel (which I currently am), but not quite as heavy as I'd like. About the same weight as the Qanba Drone (the same "tier" of fight stick) but with better parts. The standard Drone uses Qanba's own buttons and stick though and the Elite is all Sanwa.

If you can wait, they're making an F500 Elite as well, but I'm not sure when that's dropping! Your last, best bet is the EVO Drone on sale right now that comes with all Sanwa parts as well! It's really between those two in my opinion! Hope this helps!

https://www.amazon.com/Elite-Arcade-Stick-Android-Switch/dp/B07CXJ77DT/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=mayflash+500&qid=1554996929&s=gateway&sr=8-3

https://qanbausa.com/evo-drone/

soo. i also found this bad boy, although i saw in the comments that the dinput mode is not working. i like to tinker with this kind of stuff and i could prolly make it work, so i don't really mind. it's a mayflash f300 with sanwa buttons already installed

Well, $40 is definitely tight unless you find one on a sale you may not find a name brand one for the price. The Steam Controller often dips to $35 on Steam's major sales, however, I think they're phasing out the steam controller, making fewer, or ramping up for a version 2 because they've been notoriously hard to get a hold of from third party sellers outside of Valve, or outside the USA.

If you have bluetooth you may or may not end up getting a wireless one. All the Xbox One/PS4/Switch Pro controllers should be bluetooth out of the box so those should work on PC whether they're name brand or generic though. A generic of those may be your best bet for that price. 8bitdo also makes this one a bit cheaper, but it won't have full size triggers or handles but the price is right. https://www.amazon.com/8Bitdo-Gamepad-Nintendo-Windows-Raspberry/dp/B07R481CVY/

Buy one of these maybe? The cord is 6ft long, which is pretty average for a wired gamepad.

https://www.amazon.com/8Bitdo-Gamepad-Nintendo-Windows-Raspberry/dp/B07R481CVY/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=8bitdo+wired&qid=1559014818&s=gateway&sr=8-4

I have the wireless version and I can attest the build quality is solid.

Mk. Thanks for all the feedback about this. I have found some 8bitdo controllers that are much cheaper on the US amazon compared to the canadian one. If the one that you own is either one of these, are they good?

Wired

Wireless

https://www.amazon.co.uk/8Bitdo-Gamepad-Nintendo-Windows-Raspberry/dp/B07R481CVY?ref_=ast_bbp_dp

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edit.. i mean is not the best of the 8bitDo controllers, but its the best you can get for 25 or less

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N9JMYPX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

That's the page where i bought it, but i know amazon is regional.

Recommend me a new cheap/main controller! I want to get a proper controller to go along my multiple GameCube controllers, options right now are the following:

• 8Bitdo Sn30 Pro+ 50$ Pros: form factor, wireless, premium features - Cons: expensive
  
• 8Bitdo SN30 Pro USB (wired) 25$ Pros: same quality, cheap - Cons: form factor (I don't mind the fact that it's wired that much)
  
• EEEKit Wireless Pro Gaming Controller 22$ Pros: decent reviews, cheap, Xbox One shaped - Cons: probably the least impressive option
  
  I don't wanna get an official Nintendo Pro Controller, cause I don't particularly like it, it's too expensive and I don't use amiibo. This will be my main controller for everything not Smash and I also plan to use it to play old games on my computer.

I high suggest you look at either this fight pad by HORI or this MadCatz one not many people think about getting a pad but its a say cheaper alternative than buying a stick and a WAAAAYY better DPAD than yourre used to i bought the Mad Catz one and it was the best decision i have made. espcially if youre looking for something wto help with your inputs these definetly do the trick as an aleternative to the controller and as a form of a "good cheap" fight stick. i know you said you were looking for a stick but these a great other options that most people arent aware of . and if you are aware of them and you say frick that get this fight stick.

I have this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Bluetooth-Controller-Classic-Joystick/dp/B018K3Q4KS/ref=sr_1_5?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1463082610&sr=1-5&keywords=bluetooth+controller

Works great and looks really damn good, every one that has seen it has commented on how great it looks.

Some buttons are switched but it's not a big deal once you get used to it.

For a few dollars more I'd go with something like this 8Bitdo Zero. I haven't tried it myself, but I do have the 8Bitdo NES30 Pro and it works great with all the Gear VR/Android/Windows games I've tried it with, and can be started in different modes (XBox 360 controller, Bluetooth Gamepad, etc).

https://steelseries.com/gaming-controllers/nimbus


https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Nimbus-Wireless-Gaming-Controller/dp/B01AZC3III

works with my ipad and iphone

There are controller accessories for mobile devices, and APIs for them to work well with the device.

Hmm... no pedals, but they do have the Logitech G29 at 6:00PM Eastern:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Z0UWWYC/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00Z0UWWYC&linkCode=as2&tag=asaje-20&linkId=b6c5ca7a15eafef68be09deb3923deb5

And this Thrustmaster at 2:05PM Eastern:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O8B7D02/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00O8B7D02&linkCode=as2&tag=asaje-20&linkId=436f3b75a5b6b8745081a7dc95cbf28e

I got the SteelSeries Stratus XL which was highly recommended. Its $60 but worth the money. My 2nd choice was the NES30 Pro, but I didn't feel like hunting it down and waiting for shipping. Heres a link with it.

Dirt Rally is about as awesome as it comes IMO. I f'ing LOVE that game. Be prepared though...if you get a steering wheel and a seat, you're looking at around 400-600 bucks.

Driving Chair:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077PMH7DL/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1W6FFIBXHB164

Steering Wheel:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XP1JZ53/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER