Gray cables are data; one to my Switch's dock for a controller, "two" for my mini wireless keyboard, and one micro-USB and one USB-C going to my computer. The red ones are all for charging and connect to an Anker charger I have mounted under my desk. One for USB-C PD, two USB-C, and one micro-USB.

Same. I have a 46" above my setup to watch movies in my bed from behind. I use this little cute thing to control my computer from anywhere in my room, so its extra convenient not having to get up to turn up/down the volume.

I don't have a details comment right now, since I forgot to put my TMUX rc on my dotfiles repo. I plan on changing it a little and I'll update with one



Edit:

Oh my this got more attention than I thought. So here's the finer details:

Computer: Raspberry Pi 3 B+

Display: 3.5" PiTFT

Tmux Conf: On my doflie repo

Keyboard for 'pocket' use: This thing

I don't have a case yet, but I'm working with a buddy of mine to make a custom one. If we are able to get it made I'll post it to this sub.

Good solutions:

1. Download the Xbox SmartGlass app on your smartphone and use the keyboard on there.
   
   
2. Buy an off-brand chatpad as a temporary solution until Microsoft makes an official one.
   
   
3. Buy one of these great mini wireless rechargeable keyboards: Candy Bar style & Controller Style

Have it hooked onto my TV downstairs on wifi internet while my computer is wired using an ethernet cable, works amazing. Add on something like this to help navigate websites faster and a Xbox controller and I have a perfect set up to play steam games and watch online sports streams.

Games on the link is fine as long as it's not a game that requires super low input lag. I can't play like CSGO or Rocket League on it.. But any single player/casual game is great - Fallout 4, Witcher 3, Binding of Isaac, Enter the Gungeon are all fine.

UPDATE

Hey guys, love all the comments and Questions, here is some info for those who care and want to know.


Products Used*


Touchscreen Bought Mine at MCM electronics.


Raspberry Pi2


Speakers


Amp


Keyboard



Software Running


Get Noobs on a SD/MicroSD card here

Use Noobs to boot and install Rasbian

Install KODI from add remove programs or terminal "sudo apt-get install kodi"

Install NPR and VevoTV in Kodi.



Cool Idea


User /benjimons has a really cool idea on his screen showing his webcams and other good info

User/agent-squirrel mentioned Dashing for a cool UI, I looked a little into it and it seems pretty cool



Dog Info

I don't know HomeDepots official dog policy, but yes, he goes with me all the time there, employees all love him, he is NOT a service dog, and lots of Dogs are in there. I usually see this in HomeDepots that are deeper in residential areas, not so much in a more industrial area...

Thanks, he's a great pup, we call him WiFi because of his Antenna's

I'd recommend one of these Rii Mini Wireless 2.4GHz Keyboard with Mouse Touchpad Remote Control, Black (mini X1) I've used one in several pi projects. It's the smallest USB keyboard I know of.

If that's too big, you might look at a Bluetooth iPhone keyboard-case... Like this: Bluetooth Qwerty Keyboard Sliding Case for iPhone 5/5S - Backlit, Rubberized or this one: [Hype Mini Bluetooth Keyboard - Pink - For - iPhone ...] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00D48ZQSQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_CPMDxbACMM8GT)

EDIT: After re-reading your question, I think you're looking for something different. That alibaba link didn't work on my phone this morning, so I didn't realize you were looking for a kayPad, not necessarily a keyboard. and I guess I didn't notice the 2" stipulation... so, obviously a qwerty keyboard is out.

If you're just looking for some buttons and don't mind doing some EE work, you might look at some of the keypads for Arduino projects. Like this: New Keyestudio Large Button 4*4 Matrix Keypad for Arduino UNO&MEGA/raspberry pi/AVR/STM32 that you can connect directly to the PI's IO pins... or you could even use that with an Arduino as a USB Keyboard

Though if you really did need Qwerty BlackBerry like keyboard that size, you might try one of these keyboard cases: Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+ Keyboard Cover

personally I prefer this one because the layout suites 2 thumb typing better

https://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Touchpad-Keyboard-Android/dp/B00B9996LA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1485555481&sr=8-2&keywords=rii

Okay, let's do this:

PC Case: The Cardboard 500 About $20

RAM: Dual Horn Can't find a price but you might have to steal one while it's young

Hard Drive: The Enterprise Prolly a decent amount of money, I would say $50.

GPU: Dustomatic 980i Prolly real cheap. $50 or take it out of your dad's computer in the basement.

Mouse and Keyboard: Logitech MK270 $20

Windows License: Just pick one

There you go, less than $300. Might not work, but we got it done.

As configured by you (i7, 3TB HD, 4GB video card), the cost comes to $3099.00. I added in 16GB of memory over the stock 8 since that's pretty much standard for most builds, anymore.

5k Dell Monitor: $1,439.99

Retail i7-4790: $307.00

Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 Motherboard: $102.95

Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB Kit: $66.99

Corsair Carbide SPEC-01 Mid Tower Case: $48.99

Silverstone Tek 500W 80+ Gold PSU: $79.99

EVGA GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card: $229.99

CM Storm Devastator KB/Mouse Combo: $29.99

Total Cost: $2305.89

Video card was a bit of a toughie since the iMac uses a notebook GPU, so I went with something a bit faster, but comparable. This is a complete system with comparable to better specs.

Given the price difference, may as well go with a 980Ti for that extra graphics oomph or tack on some water cooling.

Edit: Woops! Forgot storage and OS!

WD Blue 3TB HD: $98.70

Samsung 850 EVO 120GB (configured as cache drive): $66.99

Windows 10 Home: $119.00

Revised Total: $2590.58. Still cheaper and could still sub out the 960 for a 980Ti and be under cost.

Oh yeah?

It's legit: here

Here you go, OP. Found your next keyboard

DO NOT get one from those guys selling them at kiosks or anywhere when they say it's "fully loaded", "programed". Years ago I bought one from them for 130$ ... it was an mbox, the mbox is 34$ on amazon ...

Get any android box on amazon, bestbuy any electronic store. The program these droid box tv sellers install is easy as hell to install and setup. It's as easy to install as any app on android or iphone. Setting it up and customizing it to your needs keeps you flexible when one source goes down or when you want to add another new one. And maybe you'd want one of these. Using the basic android box controller is usable but too time consuming.

Once you have a droid box and connected to the internet get the app KODI from google play.

KODI is an app meant to be a hub to access all your entertainment files on the droidbox, music, pictures, videos. Incidently people use it as hub to view movies and tv from independent websites. There are hundreds of independent website sources. Some movies, some tv, some live streams ... etc. In KODI it's reffered to as ADDONS.

Go to r/Addons4Kodi. There are many how to guides. Just follow them. Some may refer to it as XBMC. XBMC is the older version of KODI.

I would recommend these ADDONs. EXODUS, PHOENIX, SALTS for movies and tv and CCLOUD for live tv. There are literally thousands of international channels on CCLOUD. For spanish you'd have to google specifically for those addons.

Now you have the basics of it. But now you want to make it look presentable. You'd want to customize it youself. Stay away from BUILDS (this is what those sellers install, it's pretty much a copy and paste for them), BUILDS are like a customized theme with their chosen ADDONS.

Google a how to customize KODI. I use the mimic skin and just alter it through it's settings options. Once you have that setup how you like it, go to google play and get XBMC LAUNCHER app. This makes it so when you startup your android box it takes you directly to the KODI main menu.

Hope this give you an idea. It's pretty simple really.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00DKXXAAQ?pc_redir=1404699366&robot_redir=1

That wireless keyboard/touchpad combo is the biggest piece of shit I've ever tried to use. Here it is for $18 on Amazon. I tried to use it in my living room to control a computer with a pickup receiver less than 3 feet away and it was choppy as all hell. The "touchpad" was a joke. I guess the only good thing about this was that it has a built in red laser to annoy my cat with.

For those asking about mouse/keyboard for selection and typing, this is what I use and it works wonders. Logitech Mini "CHROMECAST" PC
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008JGU3YA/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_Ex2Kub0H7K6X3

Logitech HD Pro Webcam C920 - $49.95
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006JH8T3S/

Pretty sure this is the cheapest it has been in a long time.

Logitech MK270 Wireless Keyboard/Mouse Combo - $12.50
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BP5KOPA

Logitech M510 Wireless Mouse - $13.99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003NR57BY

Hands-down the best budget wireless mouse in my opinion.

Following is my configuration built 2 years back.

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor

Motherboard: Asus Z97-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard

Memory: Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler

Power Supply: Cooler Master VSM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply

Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer SGC-1000-KWN1

Dell S2240L 21.5 inch LED Backlit LCD Monitor x 2(Got these two for a steal at the Flipkart Big Billion Day Sale)

Cooler Master Keybord & Mouse Devastator Combo SGB-3010-KKMF1-US

Right now playing SOMA.

Like that is an excuse.

This keyboard and mouse combo is straight from /r/pcmasterrace

Here

Ninja: If you would prefer a wireless combo for $6 more - here

CPU

Mother Board

GPU

8GB of RAM

1TB HDD for way more storage space then a console. You could drop the storage space to match a console and save a bit of money, but we won't do that.

PSU Cheaper/lower wattage for this build is possible, but it's better not to skimp

Disk drives are dying out and everything is going digital. Even consoles are showing massive growth in direct game purchases and downloads from PSN/XBL. But here it is if you want one.

Here's a few cases 1 2 3 4. Pick your case based on style, USB ports, whatever. All of those are 30 dollars or less and are mATX, meaning smaller form factor.

So now peripherals. Need a monitor? No you don't, plug it in to your TV. HDMI just like a console and consoles don't come with displays. You might have a monitor already.
Controller/input devices? PCs can use the old controllers you have laying around. Here's a keyboard and mouse recommendation anyway if you want one or don't already own them since most people own a computer for stuff outside gaming. That costs around half the price of an OEM console controller and KB+M is a more accurate input method. Controllers are a comfort thing and are best suited for driving games, but point and click with a high DPI sensor is much more intuitive and accurate than a controller with bad input filtering and clunky auto aim. Microsoft tried cross platform and keyboard and mouse destroyed gamepad/controller players. The only real cross platform right now is Rocket League because controllers are the better input method for driving so it's equal footing. But if you're playing Rocket League on PC, you load in faster. You'll be sitting on an empty field while you wait for other players to connect before the countdown and stuff starts, kinda neat. Also, that one I recommended has a button to change DPI/sensitivity on the fly, no need to bother with settings menus. Seamlessly go from sniping to roaming to driving. The keyboard is back lit and has a few color options.

Operating system? GNU/Linux is free and is getting more and more gaming support every day. It's not as hard as people make it out to be. Get a basic/user friendly distro like Ubuntu and all you really have to do is install. If you're a masochist, a developer, or a masochistic developer get a tougher distro like Gentoo. Funny thing as well, games with Linux support run better on Linux since it's such a great operating system on the software level. SteamOS is also free. Want Windows? Download the OS and put it on a disk or flash drive, install it on the new computer and enter the product key. Where do you get a product key? Don't buy it from a big box retail store for 100 bucks or likely more, you're getting gypped. You can buy 100% legit product keys online. r/microsoftsoftwareswap sells them for 20-25$ and the keys are straight from Microsoft

Also, all of those listings are from Amazon and are Amazon Prime eligible (for the other guy that replied to you that wants to complain about rebates/shipping/living next to a MicroCenter). You can find a lot of those parts cheaper and/or with free shipping. I recommend NewEgg. So you can do even better than the price I'm about to give you (which also means you can get better hardware for better performance):

Here's the itemized list with the prices: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QBVRNG

$448.51 total for a PC that is massively better than current gen consoles. Drop the unnecessary DVD drive and the keyboard+mouse combo and the PC itself comes in at $402.93.

So... brand new parts from a large online retailer with a great support system. You can get even better deals on the parts if you checked other great online retailers like NewEgg. Ten years ago consoles absolutely made sense, but now leaps in hardware design have made better hardware cheaper and the tables have turned.

Does that "come close without cheating"?

Here's a few more kickers now that we have the hard price set:

AMD and Nvidia are about to launch a new line of GPUs, meaning current prices will drop (better performance at lower cost on that build I just gave you) and AMD is specifically focusing on lower/mid range market with higher performance and efficiency. It's going to be great for mainstream gaming rigs.

PC gaming is usually cheaper over time because Intel/Nvida/AMD don't charge development fees (they can't), neither can EVGA/ASUS or whoever makes the parts, neither can Microsoft. Steam takes a cut, but so do stores like GameStop. Stuff like that is why Steam can have massive sales consoles can only dream of and the developers can still profit from a sale. The only reason PC games are 60 dollars like their console equivalents is because it's the standard and they can "get away with it" (especially if you're Microsoft trying to expand Windows 10 and not alienate XBox), but they can make the same or more per sale at a lower cost.

PCs also have the largest game library of any platform and the massive free to play library that comes with it as well. And it's really free, not 'pay 50 a year for a subscription and get to play a game for a month' free

PC is, in theory, forever backwards compatible. Want to play CoD4? Don't shell out the money for Infinite Warfare, just install CoD4 and play on the servers PC still hosts. Games that came out upwards of 10 years ago can still be installed and run with no issue.

You don't have to double spend. No buying a console and a computer for work/school. Put your 300 dollar home computer and 400 dollar console prices together and you made a huge leap in budget to built a killer PC. You also get a much more versatile platform capable of running much more stuff and you get so much more control over your experience.

I agree that this should have been implemented in game, but I feel like a mini wireless keyboard would be easier and cheaper (assuming you don't already have a MIDI interface).

It looks like the real deal. The case looks like it was part of one of the CanaKits like this. This was a great accessory for it.

those Look Really Gaudy IMO

but for a better Budget setup that looks nicer too i would instead recommend the:

the Logitech GPro/102/203.
for your mouse it is a smaller mouse but fantastic build quality and a superior Senor definitly the best budget mouse you can get right now

for the keyboard either something like the MechanicalEagle Z-77 for TKL or the VicTsing Mechanical keyboard for Numpad users. these are cheaper Chinese board using Outemu Switches instead of Cherry making them more budget friendly but still certainly a lot better than the Rubber dome keyboard in the coolermaster bundle

edit: fixed the missing sentence

Hopefully it's more like $15.

I have this one. It gets the job done, and I haven't gotten into any issues. I haven't tried any other similar keyboard.

I have one of these keyboards:
http://amzn.com/B00I5SW8MC

It is significantly wider than the keyboard on the radio. Maybe a few hours online would result in finding one similarly sized. I might have better luck butchering a cell phone with a qwerty keyboard, then wiring it to an arduino that can be a USB HID.

If I did create my own from scratch, I suspect I would have to design and order a printed circuit board. That would probably cost more than I have put into this project so far!

EDIT: just as an FYI- keyboard dimensions are: 94mm x 34mm

Congratulations! By the way if you are going to use the logitech keyboard may I suggest this from cooler master if budget is an issue. Or are you upgrading later?

I got one of these for my Kodi pi. Works like a dream. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WQG6A8C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_GbkCybZJFZJ16

http://www.amazon.com/Impecca-KBB500C-Bamboo-Keyboard-Mouse/dp/B003VOOOKY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409893737&sr=8-1&keywords=wooden+keyboard

I hope this isn't an artwork, because then the artists "artwork" is worth $5k+ or whatever for buying a keyboard off amazon...
https://www.amazon.com/Impecca-KBB500C-Bamboo-Handcrafted-Keyboard/dp/B003VOOOKY

EDIT: Read title "Wooden keyboard from exhibit"... Hm....

I've been using a bamboo keyboard for about a year, if you want a cheaper (though aesthetically different) option. You can get them with a wire, which is something I like in a keyboard.

I would not be able to handle that. Amazon has basic keyboard/mouse bundle at 15 bucks, and just the keyboard for 11.50

http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-KU-0833-Wired-Keyboard/dp/B005EOWBHC/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1410444007&sr=1-1&keywords=amazon+basics+keyboard


http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Wired-Keyboard-Mouse-Bundle/dp/B00B7GV802/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1410444007&sr=1-2&keywords=amazon+basics+keyboard

The DK2 camera gives a much larger tracking space the further you get from the camera, with 5 feet away being the ideal minimum. However, many demos want you to press a key to reset your position once in place or to adjust settings, which is difficult to do without exceptionally long arms.

I went with this $15 bluetooth mini keyboard+touchpad originally intended for media center PC use. It just takes a couple minutes to learn where common keys are and you can then reset your position and control demos from afar which dramatically improves the available tracking space compared sitting at most desks where you're only a couple of feet from the camera.

Logitech MK270 Wireless Keyboard/Mouse Combo, Logitech Wireless Mouse USB (Black) - $12.50 at checkout

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BP5KOPA/

Here are some links for the product in the above comment for different countries:

Amazon Smile Link: http://smile.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=sr_1_1


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|France|amazon.fr|
|Canada|amazon.ca|
|Italy|amazon.it|




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This article really bugged me. It sounds like it was written by someone who has little to no experience using a computer as a media center. He points out all the problems of putting a PC in the living room and doesn't give any solutions, and goes on to say everyone needs to do it.

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> Wireless keyboards are large.

They don't have to be... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I5SW8MC/

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> Computers are large

They don't have to be...

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/overview.html

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129185

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> Computers are ugly

They don't have to be...

http://www.newegg.com/HTPC-Media-Center-Cases/SubCategory/ID-690?Order=RATING

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If you want a game console replacement, you're going to need a device at least as big as a console. If you want power, you need to pay the price and make sacrifices on size. The only good advice he gave was to use a laptop. Laptops are good media center solutions. Small, portable, reasonably powerful, lots of inputs.

I setup a raspberry pi with exodus and trakt for my computer challenged parents. They do pretty well with it.

Edit to add: they use this remote -Rii Mini Wireless 2.4GHz Keyboard with Mouse Touchpad

This is the version I got https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I5SW8MC/

ill second his opinion, i have a 4k tv. and 1080p looks pretty good and is satisfactory.
Get yourself a "Rii mini remote keyboard with mouse" it works awesome with the RP3 and kodi

i just ordered a fire tv box, which claims it can do 4k. but i haven't received it yet. so im not sure how 4k capable it is. i will find out in a few weeks once i get it.

Yeah, it mirrors your computer's screen exactly. So anything you can do on your computer, you can do on the TV. Any inputs you make on the PC would carry over so you can use your own keyboard / mouse / controller, but it has 3 USB ports built in to connect any device you want to it, you do need something at least.

I mostly use the steam controller for everything, including typing through the on-screen keyboard. I also have a Logitech M570 for critical mouse stuff, and I'm planning to get something like this for better typing.

If nothing else, you can just consider it a wireless HDMI cable, for $20.

The good news is, theres no shortage of after market remotes you can use with the shield. Here's a fairly cheap one I'm using which includes a keyboard and touchpad. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Z81U3YY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_liieBbN0GEJEB

Do you have this exact model? Only reason I ask is because Amazon reviews for it seem to show dodgy quality control.

Similar product seems to have no hardware complaints in reviews, but I'm not sure if that's just the Reviews lottery

https://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Touchpad-Control/dp/B00I5SW8MC as I posted above, these or any of the bazillion versions of it are pretty decent.

Nothing beats this solution for flexibility. I also use one of these with my HTPC.

Yes - the one I have: https://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Touchpad-Rechargable/dp/B00WQG6A8C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479247120&sr=8-1&keywords=rii+i8+keyboard

FYI, these are knock-offs of the old version Rii i8 Keyboards

Newer Rii i8+ https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00WQG6A8C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_b91UCbZ3T1TVX

The above link is for the actual Rii i8+ which has the backlight (worth the extra $10 alone), which this white knock-off does not have. I have had two of these for about 3 or 4 years now and they're still perfect. Also have one of the originals without the backlight and it's sitting in a drawer somewhere because it's pretty much useless at night or in my movie room.

WARNING, if you buy a Rii remote on Amazon, make sure you buy it from Rii and only Rii. Some people have bought from third party sellers (same link, they just selected a different seller) and were sent cheap shitty knock-offs that broke after a while.

I honestly can say these remotes are freaking awesome (if you get the backlit one). Just wish it had an IR so I could teach it to turn on my projector and receiver.

most likely this one.

For the people who don't really like this keyboard. I have been using one of these for years on my ps3, originally got it to chat in pshome.

Still have to set the controller down to type, but the keyboard is so small you can just keep it in your lap and pick it up really fast to type. And the keys light up so if you play in the dark you can easily still use it.

Edit: It appears I have a slightly older model. I have the dinovo mini only difference is mine uses bluetooth while the newer cheaper one uses RF. Which means the old bluetooth one doesn't require a usb RF receiver to work with the ps3 or any other device that has bluetooth while the new one does since it doesn't use bluetooth.

> I'm a little disappointed to see the table top computers are mostly obsolete.

I guess I missed the memo

Vintage table top computers are just fine to play against for most of us mortals (if you're solidly above 2000, it's a little tougher), and you can get some for very cheap and in good condition on eBay. The Kaplan machines are a great option (SciSys turbo 16k plays at around 1450 elo, GK2000 (my personal nemesis) plays at around 1900 elo, GK2100 plays at around 2050 elo) and are very common.

There is one "new" table top computer on the market - Millenium Chess Genius/Pro. The Pro version is reaching 2300 elo in some tests. And the engine that powers it is the same Chess genius codebase that your phone app uses. Build quality is not as good as my favorite GK 2000, but at least someone is still making these.

> My plan is to mirror most of the me vs computer games over a real board. Is that how a lot of you do it?

Yes I do this, and I do this in games vs human players online (providing the time control is long enough to do this) as well.

> Not sure if something like hiarcs is worth it over lucus?

If you buy hiarcs I would recommend getting it with the Fritz interface.

When playing VS software engine, what I do is use a mini wireless keyboard (this), disable the board in my GUI, enlarge the score sheet and change the font such that it can be read at a long distance. Then I take the mini keyboard, input the moves in algebraic notation with it, and glance at the screen to see the engine reply. This minimizes computer distraction, being glued to the screen, and re-creates the feeling of taking notation in a tournament game as much as possible. Fritz GUI will also read it's moves aloud to you in speech, but I did not find that useful. I wanted to code something to use voice recognition API so that I could speak my moves, but didn't do it yet.

> Chess genius and shredder seem to be the best phone apps I've found so far.

For playing against, yes. For analysis, some stockfish variant is the way to go.


> However I'm hesitant to buy shredder as it appears to be abandoned. I like the ability to adjust the computer player by elo rating.

Shredder (along with HIARCS) is the most humanlike engine on the market and it's elo restriction is top notch. It's well worth the small price for the mobile version, but I'd consider the PC version too. I own both and use both, myself.

I don't think it is abandoned, but if it were, I wouldn't really fret too much -- it's pretty much perfect as it is.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B9996LA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Works great! Only thing I wish it has was a backlight. You can use the media buttons and touchpad. Just familiarize yourself with the keyboard controls. Very long lasting rechargeable battery. Works out of the box.

Edit - It also works fine with Ouya apps when you need to type text. Pick up one of these USB hubs if you don't have one. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003M0NURK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I use an MK808b, it was $44 and runs Android 4.1 so you can also play Android games and run other Android apps, and one of these $17 combo keyboard/mouse remote controls.

The experience is awesome, like others have said. Keyboard is a must, mouse optional with the pad on the controller. If you're curious, here's the keyboard and mouse I use; they work like a charm and are super cheap.

Logitech Wireless Combo MK270 with Keyboard and Mouse

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Keyboard-Desktop-Glossy/dp/B007PJ4PN2/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1488235840&sr=1-1&keywords=logitech+wireless+keyboard

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Keyboard-Touchpad-Internet-Connected/dp/B014EUQOGK/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1488235840&sr=1-2&keywords=logitech+wireless+keyboard

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-MK270-Wireless-Keyboard-Mouse/dp/B00BP5KOPA/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1488235840&sr=1-3&keywords=logitech+wireless+keyboard

This is what I have.

Those specs are sub-par at best, and an absolute scam at worst. 8GB of RAM and 1TB of HDD for a $1700 machine?! There should be at least 16GB and an SSD for the OS at that price point.

In just 5 minutes I threw together an equivalent PC on Amazon for about half the price ($890: mobo, ram, gpu, cpu, hdd, display, mouse + keyboard, case.

Now how about you take a look at a PC with a similar price point? ($1680 : mobo, ram, gpu, cpu, ssd, hdd, same display, same mouse + keyboard, same case)

Rubber domes underneath the housing of the Cooler Master Devastator keyboard.

I have the keyboard mouse combo from Cooler Master and this Razer Keyboard has similar housing based on what I saw when I removed a keycap on the Devastator.

But PC gaming is too expensive

That right there is about $610.

A system based around the new Pentium G3258 and an R7 260 or 750ti will cost around $400. A decent gaming keyboard and mouse combo costs about $30. That leaves you with about $180 left to go ham on steam sales. Not to mention there's no monthly fee for playing online on PC. Then you get Mod support



Praise GabeN.

Parts list:

Shuttle Barebones kit $259

i5-2500 - $209

ASUS 6870 video card $199+$30 MIR

G.SKILL Ripjaws 16gb $129

Lite-On 12x Blu-ray burner+3d - $119 (combo discount of $13)

OCZ Solid 3 SSD $199 + $30 MIR

AirLink101 Wireless N adapter $13

Logitech MK520 $44

Amazon Basics DVI-HDMI cable $8

Total before ~$60 in MIR's

$65 at Amazon (keyboard/mouse, wireless n, cable)

$1,124 at Newegg (everything else)


I just plugged the computer into my 42" LG tv, I had a spare audio cable lying around and it works like a charm

Appears to be the Logitech MK520 Wireless Keyboard and Mouse Combo.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003VANO7C/

Looks like a Logitech K520

Seconded. Steam Big Picture is what I use all the time now. Works great.

That said, having something like this on your coffee table is a big help too.

Why not another Choc Mini! Amazon has em for $100

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor | $179.99
Motherboard | ASRock H110M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard | $44.99
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory | $49.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $85.85 @ Newegg
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $49.99 @ Micro Center
Case | Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case | $34.99 @ Micro Center
Power Supply | Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $61.00 @ Newegg
Optical Drive | Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer | $13.99 @ Newegg
Monitor | Acer G237HLbi 60Hz 23.0" Monitor | $99.99 @ Micro Center
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $650.78
| Mail-in rebates | -$30.00
| Total | $620.78
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-21 01:59 EDT-0400 |

Pretty straightforward! The motherboard has wifi built in, and the CPU/mobo are available at those prices as as a pick-up only combo from Micro Center:

http://www.microcenter.com/product/451887/Core_i5-6500_32GHz_LGA_1151_Boxed_Processor

http://www.microcenter.com/product/462952/H110M-ITX-ac_LGA_1151_mini-ITX_Intel_Motherboard

IPS monitor for better viewing angles. If reliability's a big deal, maybe get a second HDD and put them in RAID 1.

Edit: Oop, forgot kb/m. These are basic and reliable: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B7GV802/?tag=pcpapi-20

So, it's 4 in the morning over here, so my grammar and typing might be off, but here's what I got:

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Wired-Keyboard-Mouse-Bundle/dp/B00B7GV802/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499668820&sr=8-1&keywords=amazon+basic+keyboard

Amazon Mouse and keyboard combo - $15.00

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009421&cm_re=Acer_G236HL_Bbd_23-Inch_Screen_LED-Lit_Monitor-_-24-009-421-_-Product

Monitor $90

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-DDR3-1600-PC3-12800-CT2KIT25664BA160B-CT2CP25664BA160B/dp/B006YG88YY/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1499672261&sr=1-4&keywords=2gb+ddr3+ram

Reliable company and you can make use of dual-channels

$29.99

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0088PUEPK/ref=twister_B01MU9EG5O?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Get a Western Digital hard drive, both a hair cheaper and more reliable.
$47.99

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LUH1N4O/ref=psdc_229189_t2_B00CPLGFM4
AMD A8-7600 Quad-Core Get it on amazon or newegg, these sites have good return policies in case something happens. Superbiiz charges $8 for shipping so the cost is the same. $65.00

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-DDR3-2GB-Graphics-GV-R724OC-2GI-REV2-0/dp/B00JRSPXMQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1499671186&sr=1-1&keywords=amd+r7

Graphics card - $57.99

There is a $10 rebate going on so you can get it for $47.99

Although this is a low-end graphics card, you can crossfire this with the APU to get better performance.

MOBO

http://www.microcenter.com/product/446287/GA-F2A68HM-H_FM2_ATX_AMD_Motherboard

This allows for a dual graphics set up. - $49.99

Power Supply

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01F5LX55K/ref=twister_B01G69E69E?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

A good supply - $37.99

https://www.amazon.com/ROSEWILL-Computer-plastic-computer-FBM-01/dp/B005LIDU5S/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1499674177&sr=1-3&keywords=rosewill+case

Annnnnnnd a case - $31

The total cost is $415...

Edit: after looking at u/Wings0fLiberty 's post, the power supply ( I decided on a similar one) could be found for $26.99 on newegg, and a case for $24.99.

With these changes, the build would be withing budget.

If you go on amazon the first mice I see are $10 or less, or you could get this combo for about $13 for a mouse and keyboard combo. As previously mentioned, a cheap mouse and keyboard do the job and work the same way which more expensive and more premium products do. However, with more expensive mice and keyboards, you gain more features like RGB lighting or additional buttons, as well as better ergonomics and durability.

Expensive? I can get a keyboard and mouse for like 10$. Easy. And it can be wireless to. Keyboard and mouse is cheaper than a controller. If it wasn't intended for them to allow keyboard/mouse, why put the PS/2 drivers? Also, everyone has a computer so they all probably have a keyboard and mouse. Your points are not that convincing and stating that a kb+m combo is expensive kinda negates all credibility.

KB+M: 15$ https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00B7GV802/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1469678708&sr=8-4&pi=SL75_QL70&keywords=keyboard+and+mouse

Controller: 50$ https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00BGA9X9W/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469678765&sr=8-1&pi=SL75_QL70&keywords=ps4+controller

That being said, you also lumped in actual modifications in there. There is a difference between plugging in a peripheral and actually modifying the code/peripheral to do things the manufacturer didn't intend for it to do. Keyboard and mouse is used on a computer and aimbots are still against rules on computer games so I don't see how an aimbot is relevant to an input peripheral. At all.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00B7GV802/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1497248503&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=amazon+basic+keyboard&dpPl=1&dpID=41w4NfQ3k%2BL&ref=plSrch

Muahaha

Those are nice, especially with xbmc, but i would recommend the controller style. They have a better feel and are easier to use in my opinion. Around 15 on amazon. Can give you a link later as well if you want

Here it is
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B9996LA/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8

Sorry about the wait, it was a busy couple of days! The specs are below:

BOM:

• 1920x1080 touchscreen ADAFRUIT!
  
• 2.4GHz backlit wireless keyboard (similar)link
  
• Box Vaultz
  
• 20,000 mAhr Amazon Basics power bank similar
  
  Beyond that its just a bunch of soldering, wiring, cardboard, and tape. I'm still trying to reduce the volume of all the cabling so that I can pack more in. I need speakers, a power switch, and I'd like to add a small USB hub.

You can get something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Hausbell-H7-Wireless-Entertainment-Keyboard/dp/B00B9996LA/ref=lp_1194464_1_12?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1406826186&sr=1-12

Or if you don't like the touch pad you can get a motion sensing remote like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Onedayshop%C2%AE-Multifunction-Wireless-Keyboard-3-Gsensor/dp/B00KXLS1GQ/ref=sr_1_11?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1406826313&sr=1-11&keywords=htpc

I feel that one is a bit pricey.

Much cheaper

pic

Thanks, I was wondering about keyboards on Ouya.

That is a nice compact keyboard. I have one of those on a PC that's installed in a limited space.

Another, smaller keyboard that I have (used on one of my Pi's) is this one

I do IT for a lot of small businesses with one being a lumber yard. We give em these cause they're cheap and seem to last with all the debris flying around. No one cries when they break Logitech MK270 Wireless Keyboard/Mouse Combo, Logitech Wireless Mouse USB (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BP5KOPA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_CqrFybNXX7HNT

• fire HD 10 for $150
  
• compressor/accessory kit $104
  
• wireless kb/mouse for $12 (to use with my tv & consoles)
  
• a dash button $1
  
  Bought the Dewalt powertool kit and then canceled it, I need something like that, but would rather a different brand.
  
  Tried to buy a dashcam but the deal was full, and ended with me sitting on the waitlist.

but PS4 pro doesnt include PSN subscription

PSN Subscription(1year) $60

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/playstation-plus-subscription-price-increasing/1100-6442878/


.



An OS for PC ($20)


/r/microsoftsoftwareswap

A random keyboard and mouse combo that can be purchases from any electronic shops($10-$XX)


(Below is a random keyboard+mouse combos with price that is cheaper than PSN sub,which i found from amazon. You can get cheaper keyboard+mouse combos than the one i linked,if u bothered to search for it)


https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-MK270-Wireless-Keyboard-Mouse/dp/B00BP5KOPA/ref=lp_1194464_1_1/162-4307345-8978700?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1478291877&sr=1-1


Total price $60(PS4 pro) VS $40(OS+K&M for PC)



Also,OS last forever until you decide to change your PC components whereas PSN Sub does not last forever

$150?

Extra?

The monitors for $80 were either not 1080p or didnt include hdmi, so i put this one

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015WCV70W/ref=sr_pogo_pc_display_on_website_1?ie=UTF8&sr=1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65

As for the keyboard its up to you. Just get something simple for around $20

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00BP5KOPA/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468825426&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=mouse+and+keyboard&dpPl=1&dpID=41h%2BhRP0JdL&ref=plSrch

Do consoles come with Speakers or a monitor? You don't need a headset, you can use a tv as a monitor. You can get a free OS or one for $20 max at /r/softwareswap. Keyboard and mouse here for $30

I've had a look at the devastator combo and it definitely looks interesting at that pricepoint. However, I would offer the following:

1. What do you want from your keyboard? Do you want to improve your typing experience or looking to enhance your gaming? Either way, shelling out more money will get you better ergonomics (reduced strain, increased longevity, etc.) and in most cases a big increase in how long a board can stay with you.
   
2. Have you considered mechanical switches? I switched a little while back and now I can't imagine buying rubber dome again. It's not because of elitism, it's simply a better experience for me all round and I now live in the knowledge that the board I have will be with me for some time.
   
   There are some really decent boards at reasonable pricepoints scattered all about. The immediate ones that come to mind are:
   
   
3. Corsair K65
   
4. CM Storm Quickfire Rapid
   
5. Rosewill RK-6000
   
   Granted, these are above the pricepoint mentioned for the devastator but if you're willing, the ergonomics and quality of these boards should vastly outweigh it.
   
   As mentioned, have a look at /r/mechanicalkeyboards once you have a feel for what you want in a keyboard. If you spend significant amount of time behind a computer in the first place (gaming + work can easily soak up dozens of hours a week) then investing in quality kit seems like a good idea.
   
   If you think the Devastator set looks awesome and fits your needs, by all means go for it. Be sure to post pics and your experience when you get it!
   
   EDIT: For reference, have a quick look at the reviews being posted on Amazon. Though not the most reputable source, they do seem to highlight a number of concerns for this combo with build quality and polish. Most notably the fact that the scroll lock key is used to turn the LEDs on and off on the keyboard but simultaneously also turns that function on. This may be a problem if you use programs that respond to that key being on. In addition, it appears that a) the keys are not particularly well-finished and may have some chips in them and b) when the LEDs are off you can't see the writing on the keys. Not a problem if you're a touch typist but if you tend to look at the board while typing you may have issues.
   
   Linky: http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_l5Cfub0D6M3BK

Bought this about a month ago when it was $30. Haven't had any complaints about them yet. Pretty nice for the price

If you're curious at what it looks like/if you want to buy it...

Cooler master does some good cheap combos

Lol its a backlit keyboard that's off since the computer is off, this is what it looks like when its on. I do agree it looks pretty cool when its off though

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I bought this, came in the mail today, so fucking awesome.

This is the one I have used for all my Pi's.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I5SW8MC

It's never given me problems, I wouldnt do any serious typing on it given the size, but it works well.

[Here] (http://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Mouse-Touchpad-Black/dp/B00I5SW8MC/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1417592938&sr=1-2&keywords=micro+keyboard), try this. I own it and it goes for weeks without needing a charge. It has it's own 2.4GHz USB dongle so there's zero compatibility issues, XB1 thinks it's a wired keyboard. Plus there is a bonus laser pointer for your cat!

Could make something like this. http://i.imgur.com/KibyXD5.jpg

Could always swap out the LCD they used in the photo for one that sits on top of the GPIO pins.

GPIO LCD ~$18 http://www.amazon.com/OSOYOO-480x320-Display-Monitor-Raspberry/dp/B013E0IJSC/

Never used that LCD before, I have the Adafruit one. But the Ada one costs a bit more. =(

Keyboard ~$17 http://www.amazon.com/Rii-mini-X1-Raspberry-KP-810-10LL/dp/B00I5SW8MC/

PI just depends on which one you want.

SD Card depends on how much storage you want.

Battery depends on how long you want to use it. I have a 13000 mAh, http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Generation-High-Capacity-Fast-Charging-Techonology/dp/B00BQ5KHJW/ Running a headless PI with Camera board and USB Edimax wifi adapter doing timelapses at night. ~8 hours knocks off one light. So I assume it uses about 25% of the battery pack in that time.

$70 bucks is cutting it close. Other wise, as /u/trencher41 said, The Motorola Lapdock would be the only other cheap option I can think of.

Looks like the Rii 2015 Mini. I have an older version I use for presentations.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I5SW8MC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_HYR3DbPS6M5Z1

That's the closest I could find. It's not a bluetooth one, and it's MUCH newer than mine (but it looks very much the same) . I had a friend give me the one I use almost a decade ago lol.

True it could make the base for something you can lay in bed with when you can't sleep or just want to lounge. This keyboard that I have works great for it

A keyboard is pretty trivial. I use this mostly for chatting/trading/in game searching. I haven't got the xbox to detect the trackpad yet. But that's also not particularly important to me.

Ok, so I did look at it. It's a MXQ with a Rii keyboard and one fuck of a markup. Definitely shit.

I'm an ECE that got into Raspberry Pi about a month ago. I work in microelectronics (chip design), and wanted to use it to get back into larger scale electronics hacking and to do some more hardware oriented programming and projects.

As such, I had to basically reform my electronics gadget supply at the same time since I ditched my college collection a while back when moving to a new house.

Here's some of the key things I bought to go with my Pi that I felt I needed. I'm assuming you're like me and want to work on electronics hardware (lights, switches, etc).

• Raspberry Pi B+ : I wanted the larger sized one with more memory and USB ports as the prototype environment. As I get stuff fully working, then I plan to buy an A+ for the implementation environment. I bought the Canakit Ultimate Starter Kit on Amazon
  
• You'll want a good microSD card. I swapped out the 8GB one from the Canakit for a 16GB one since I want to store some data on the card for a project I have in mind
  
• A case : I used the one from the Canakit
  
• A USB keyboard. The Logitech K400 is nice (just make sure to pair it on a PC first), or the Rii i8 Mini work nice (I have both)
  
• If you want an onboard display, look at the PiTFT from Adafruit. I used that for my initial setup, then set up my Pi to autostart a VNC server on boot and now I work without a display. If you don't want the PiTFT, you can use a TV or a monitor if it supports HDMI (or a regular monitor with an HDMI to DVI adapter).
  
• If hardware hacking, a breadboard and cobbler board : You'll want a breadboard for prototyping electronics projects before soldering to a PCB, and a cobbler board to connect the pin header of the Raspberry to your breadboard. I used the one from the Canakit but there are various ones out there you can buy
  
• To go with a breadboard, I suggest flexible breadboard wire. These or these would work.
  
• If hardware hacking, you'll want LEDs, switched, and resistors/capacitors. I really like these resistors (they came bagged and labelled), the LEDs I started out with from Radio Shack, and for switches I really like these ones. They snap right into a breadboard. The caps I just got at RadioShack.
  
• You may want to grab a multimeter as well. I have two myself with different functions (one for logic probing mainly).
  
  Beyond those basic starter components, the rest is up to your imagination and what you want to do next. In my case, I plan to drive higher current components, so I'll be using optocouples and relays eventually. And I plan to make my own PCBs to snap onto the Raspberry, so I have PCBs, headers, and soldering stuff.
  
  If you're new to the Raspberry, there's online resources out there. I also got this book off Amazon as a starter as well, which I've been coupling with online resources.
  
  On the Arduino side, that's my next purchase since I may find it easier to have the software and server side of one of my projects on a Pi, and the hardware interface on an Arduino. I'm just going to get an R3 board to start since I have the rest of the stuff they usually include in a starter pack listed above.
  
  This blog did a nice writeup comparing some Arduino R3 starter kits:
  https://www.pretzellogix.net/2014/10/09/three-arduino-starter-kits-compared-and-reviewed/

There are a lot of options -- to name a few:

Do the windows approach and set it to automatically open Kodi at boot. Or plex if you prefer that. This option gives you the most flexibility -- you don't ever have to touch a keyboard to open Kodi, but it gives you a lot more streaming options and the ability to use a web browser for things like Amazon Prime Video etc.
--bonus, you can create a launcher within kodi to open up Steam in Big Picture mode for light gaming as well


Or grab yourself a raspberry pi 3 and install OSMC on it (cheapest option, performance is "good enough")


Overall: Pick up a FLIRC usb adapter + a logitech harmony remote

I would also highly recommend a small keyboard for when you have to type to search a show, etc. -- I personally use one of these

bilasport.net

I exclusively use this site and love it. Install Google chrome browser on your android box and use this site. Works awesome. I had to find an .apk of chrome to install though, they dont seem to want you to. I use an Nvidia Shield TV, best Andoid box I've had.

To use chrome you need a controller like this one though so you can click on stuff. The one that came with my box doesnt work for chrome.

https://www.amazon.ca/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Compatible-Raspberry/dp/B00WQG6A8C/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=bluetooth+keyboard+remote&qid=1570399346&sr=8-3

I just got done building a new Kodi box and I have to tell you its the only thing I've ever built that's normie approved. And by that I mean my wife, kids, and a hoard of cousins.

I used a RPi 3 + LibreELEC and hats off to the LibreELEC team because the thing reboots in 17 seconds and I haven't had a single skip or buffer problem on 1080p video.

Part | Price | Link
-----|-------|-----
Raspberry Pi 3 | $41 | https://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-Pi-RASP-PI-3-Model-Motherboard/dp/B01CD5VC92
Power Adapter | $10 | https://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Supply-Adapter-Charger/dp/B00MARDJZ4
SD Card | $10 | https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Memory-SDSDU-032G-U46-Change-Version/dp/B00812K4V4
Case | $20 | https://flirc.tv/more/raspberry-pi-case-ke
Rii i8+ 2.4GHz Mini Wireless Keyboard | $22 | https://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Touchpad-Rechargable/dp/B00Z81U3YY
HDMI Cable | $06 | https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-High-Speed-HDMI-Cable-Standard/dp/B014I8SIJY
Ethernet Cable | $05 | https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-RJ45-Cat-6-Ethernet-Patch-Cable-10-Feet-3-Meters/dp/B00N2VISLW
OS | $00 | https://libreelec.tv
Total | $114 |

I think one of these should be on every TV.

Perhaps an HTPC via hdmi if you happen to have a home theater flatscreen tv.

I've been playing around with kodi recently and it's quite a nice setup with a great remote control

I have the K400 and yes, it works. Trackpad depends on the app. Why not try Bluetooth instead? I have a mini bluetooth keyboard and it works great and doesn't occupy the USB port.

(https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015J6TEN8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

I have this (but only just got it and my Fire Stick a few weeks ago) and no complaints so far. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GCPVZDW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_cxLHybDT9P473

Well, a lot of folks on r/mk (myself included) seem to be in agreement that Gateron switches are better than Cherry, and those are "knock-offs" so I dont think anyone will downvote you for not buying "branded" switches.

The few people who have posted about their red dragon boards seem to like them, and as far as backlight goes, that aesthetic is up to you.

What country are you trying to buy this keyboard in? If you search mechanical keyboards on amazon, you see a bunch of cheaper options that do have numpads. If you want a mechanical numpad, jellycomb makes one for $20 USD.

Here is a TOMOKO with numpad for $55 https://www.amazon.com/TOMOKO-Mechanical-Keyboard-Resistant-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01IHVN4GA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1478280296&sr=8-2&keywords=mechanical+keyboard+tomoko

Rosewill is $60: https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches-RK-9000V2/dp/B00S5E4KH2

If you really want a solid keyboard with a numpad, the coolermaster TK retails in the US for $80 https://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-QuickFire-TK-Mechanical/dp/B00A378L4C/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1478280161&sr=8-2&keywords=coolermaster+keyboard

The Ducky One is another great option if you can save up the $115

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01IHVN4GA/ref=psdcmw_172487_t1_B01DBJTZU2

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IHVN4GA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00

I recommend it, even though it didn't quite deliver on all my expectations from reading the manual (wink). I've been using it eight hours a day (at work) for two months, with zero trouble.

I have the Pepper jobs W10 remote and it's great for my htpc. It's small and It's back light. One side has your standard remote settings and built in Windows 10 buttons with an activatable airmouse. The other side is a backlight qwerty keyboard. Here's a link if you're interested: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078NT49MJ/ref=as_li_ss_tl?tag=robejorg-20&ie=UTF8&linkCode=sl1&linkId=726c3a5dd1eec5972aa5cff5ee93e523

Yeah, this one does pretty well at using Windows in my experience.

https://www.amazon.com/W10-GYRO-Keyboard-Controller-Learning/dp/B078NT49MJ

Pepper Jobs W10 GYRO Air TV... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078NT49MJ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

This is the exact one I got. 10/10.

How is this a deal when you can get a better product cheaper on Amazon for regular price from a reputable company (iRocks vs Cooler Master)?

www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/

try this one

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1396644738&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005BZNDS0/ref=mp_s_a_1_11?qid=1396644767&sr=8-11&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70

Model number this

Slightly over your budget (why only $20?) but I use this coolmaster keyboard that I paid $29.16 for (after tax) back in 2016. Some family members liked it so much they bought their own as well.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1419376619&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX200_QL40

If you meant the 30 dollar combo and not the one I'm using

I found a similar keyboard on Amazon made by HP and I used that to base measurements off of. I do not know what you use your computer for but unfortunately most backlit keyboards are geared to gamers. I've never used any of these keyboards but they are from respected manufactures. If I were you I'd read through a couple reviews on each to get a better understanding of what to expect from the keyboard.

Cooler Master Storm Devastator w/ mouse $29.99

This one is .2" longer, .4" narrower, .4" taller than your current keyboard


Corsair Raptor k30 $39.99

This one is .9" longer, .9" wider, .4" taller.

If you were to up your budget $10.

SteelSeries Apex Raw $49.99

2.97" longer, 2.5" wider, 1.05" taller.

I have used this one and I can say that I didn't care for the keys but I do use a mechanical board so take that with a grain of salt.

If you were to up your budget $25-30. (At this point it might be better to start looking at low end mechanicals.)

Corsair Raptor k40 $59.99

1.8" longer, 2.5" wider, .8" taller

Logitech Illuminated Ultrathin $59.99

I don't think the dimensions for this one are right because Amazon says it's 3 inches tall but it's sold as an ultrathin keyboard?

Microsoft SideWinder x4 $68.80

2.1" longer, 2.4" wider, 1.4" taller

A lot have voice recognition and a microphone in the remote now, and even if not, with predictive search you usually dont have to type more than two or three letters anyway.

I have a media server in my back office, but that streams to Rokus hooked up to the living room and kitchen TVs via Plex. Plus i can use the app on my phone instead of the remote and i can type on that full keyboard.

I did get this for my Steamlink tho. https://smile.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Touchpad-Control/dp/B00I5SW8MC/

I have that same wireless keyboard/touchpad. The range is awful, but it was cheap.

I have 2 of these: http://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Mouse-Touchpad-Black/dp/B00I5SW8MC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409262481&sr=8-1&keywords=rii+keyboard


Lots of people strap them to their forearms. I'm building a wearable pi, and I'm just going to put magnets on it to hold it in place when I'm not using it, so I can pull it out and type while holding it when I need it.


They're cheap, and they work really well.

I've used ubuntu just fine for my living room PC with no problem. scaled up the font size a bit, then just had steam boot up with Ubuntu. Get yourself one of these keyboards and you're golden.

browsed the web and watched videos on it, then used in-home streaming from steam to play games off of my main PC.

Some suggestions for keyboard/mice:

Lenovo N5902. Goes on sale regularly.

Logitech K400

Generic keyboard/touchpad remote. There are many slight variants on this.

I've found that due to the size/shape/content of my living room, a wireless receiver plugged into my HTPC doesn't work 100% reliably. I've connected a USB extension cable to the back of my HTPC and run it behind things and under my couch to give me the best reception. Generally you can go up to 15 feet; any longer than that and you need a powered extension.

If you have a Logitech Harmony remote, I highly recommend the OVU4003/00 (RC6) USB IR reciever. Once set up with Windows and the Harmony remote, it works with XBMC/Kodi out of the box. This receiver was branded as HP/Dell/Gateway/Philips and probably many more. A Flirc is another option but it is ugly (IMO) and more expensive.

Regarding hardware, if you aren't gaming you don't need a lot. When using older gear the most important thing is video hardware acceleration. For Intel machines, you need something with at least GMA 4500 (Q45 chipset) graphics or later, and for AMD you need something with at least a 760G chipset. This hardware dates back to 2008/2009. Dedicated graphics cards should be at least a Radeon HD 2600 or a GeForce 8500. These cards date back to 2006/2007. CPUs are a grey area, but any mainstream dual core CPU (Athlon X2, Core 2 Duo) from 2007+ should be able to handle most everything. My first HTPC had an AMD Athlon X2 5000+ and it's still working just fine with W7 and Kodi.

If you want to game (and don't want to use a device like the DOKO), you'll need to find a quiet case that supports full length video cards. There are a bunch available, and I'm not sure if this has changed in the last 2-3 years, but the vast majority of HTPC cases large enough to support full size gear and M-ATX motherboards are simply too long to fit in a standard A/V rack or TV stand. The only exceptions I am aware of are the Silverstone GD05 and GD04. I'd be willing to bet that Silverstone has some other cases that will work also.

Additionally, you'll want to find a PSU, case fans and CPU cooler that are quiet and efficient. The best resource for this is http://www.silentpcreview.com/.

Lastly, if your A/V receiver has only S/PDIF audio inputs (no HDMI) and you want to play games in 5.1 surround sound, you're going to need to find either a sound card or motherboard with an S/PDIF output that supports DTS-Connect and/or Dolby Digital Live. Motherboards stopped coming with this around 2008 (AFAIK) and the cheapest option to get it in an add-on card is the Sound Blaster Z.

Just use a fullscreen Chromium instance and get a small wireless KB+M device to change the URL when you want to.

I have a couple of these (when I bought them, it was the iClever RC-F01, but it looks like the model jumps all over the place).

https://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Touchpad-Control/dp/B00I5SW8MC/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1481669361&sr=1-4&keywords=Ultra+Mini+Wireless+Keyboard+with+Mouse+Touchpad

OR

https://www.amazon.com/Smart-Cool-Wireless-Touchpad-Backlight/dp/B019JRUM48/ref=sr_1_12?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1481669361&sr=1-12&keywords=Ultra+Mini+Wireless+Keyboard+with+Mouse+Touchpad

Baiscally, amazon search "Ultra Mini Wireless Keyboard with Mouse Touchpad", and look for ones with the same form factor.

Try something like this or this.

You could also look for keyboards that fold that are designed to be used with things like phones.

Looks like the Rii Mini Wireless.

Thanks.

Re: dead pixels, I tried it for 2 levels and moved on :) It requires a mouse, and my micro keyboard touchpad works okay, but not enjoyably. I'd be better with a trackball installed.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00I5SW8MC/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1425664843&sr=8-1&keywords=raspberry+keyboard&dpPl=1&dpID=4123wz7vjDL&ref=plSrch&pi=AC_SY200_QL40

I was gonna get that but I bought a logitech wireless instead (which was big) thinking it was a micro keyboard but it wasnt.

A lot of people recommend the Rii 8
https://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Touchpad-Keyboard-Android/dp/B00JO80LUI/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1519495845&sr=8-4&keywords=rii+8

Here are a few.

http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00LZVP71A/ref=lp_1194464_1_15/184-6333544-3835912?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1451359741&sr=1-15

http://www.amazon.com/Bluefinger-Illuminated-Keyboard-Customized-Mousepad/dp/B012VLRH2Y/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1451359761&sr=1-2&refinements=p_89%3ABlueFinger

http://www.amazon.com/Keyboard-Set-BlueFinger%C2%AE-Adjustable-BlueFinger%C2%AE-Customized/dp/B015Q0F3NM/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1451359761&sr=1-3&refinements=p_89%3ABlueFinger

this is what I have: https://www.amazon.ca/Rii-Wireless-keyboard-Handheld-Raspberry/dp/B00WQG6A8C

I have two different ones that I use and like:

This one is great for an htpc that doesn't need a keyboard:

http://smile.amazon.com/Ortek-Windows-Infrared-Receiver-Ultimate/dp/B00224ZDFY?

It has great range and a solid selection of buttons. No tab button, but it is well made and works well. The mouse moves a little slowly, but I haven't found a remote I like better.

This one is good if you want or need a full keyboard:

http://smile.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Rechargable-Raspberry/dp/B00WQG6A8C?

I had the original model, and the range was terrible and it would often need to be turned off and on to connect. This new model works great though, although the way it goes to sleep fairly quickly is a little annoying. Reconnects quite fast though and has great battery life.

This might work: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00WQG6A8C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_8J2iDbE0SHXDP
Or this one: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B079LZGV6F/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_gL2iDbXTK7DAP

Nice setup! Hard work pays off eh! Just want to say, have you thought of using one of those mini keyboards??? Imo anyone who has a sim racing rig should simply use a mini keyboard. https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00WQG6A8C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_sNnWDbHXYJZ2Y

I've been using one for years. Can't deal with the hassle of a large keyboard and awkwardly trying to use a mouse while sitting in the rig. They are only 20-30 bucks on amazon. Couldn't recommend them enough.

https://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Touchpad-Rechargable/dp/B00WQG6A8C/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1480993618&sr=8-3&keywords=Kodi+remote


Been using this remote for a while now, works really well

Yes those are good I have these two.

Rii i8+ 2.4GHz Mini Wireless Keyboard with Touchpad Mouse,LED Backlit,Rechargable Li-ion Battery (Updated 2017,Backlit) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WQG6A8C/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Rii i8+ BT Mini Wireless Bluetooth Backlight Touchpad Keyboard with Mouse for PC/Mac/Android, White (RTi8BT-2) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FXDVYU8/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I received the matricom G-box two weeks ago and it took a few minutes to find a decent video set up Exodus on it. But it's been absolutely great with netflix-esque quality and audio that syncs up spot on. I also bought a Rii Bluetooth remote and I couldn't be happier with the whole package. All AMC, HBO plus many more shows at my fingertips.

I've got 2 of the Rii Brand ones, I like the 2.4ghz one because it reads instantly, I've used it on laptops, desktops, Rapsberry Pi (Retropi) and even my steamlink! The battery lasts a few months with sparse use, and with heavy use probably about a month. Also the backlit keyboard is awesome, and i've never had any issues with the buttons. Just my two cents!

Edit: I've also used a bluetooth one with a Phone, Raspberry Pi, as well as a dongle attached to a laptop, It works well, but takes a little longer to setup and connect, where as the 2.4ghz one is plug and play.

It hits me in waves. Buildapc has a logical increments guide for how to scale things up from a reasonable price.

Pros to desktop: you can upgrade components

Cons to desktop: Power consumption for regular tasks is stupid relative to most efficient laptops. That said, in the winter, this added power consumption just turns into slightly more expensive heat generation.

One thing you could consider is a reasonable desktop now with a good cpu close to you television. If you run a hdmi to your TV, you can watch internet stuff from your couch and cancel cable. For added frugal luxury you can add a wireless computer remote.

been using k400's for years...Love them. for a small remote I also use this guy.

https://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Touchpad-Rechargable/dp/B00Z81U3YY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1495769582&sr=8-4&keywords=htpc+remote

slightly less responsive but still good

This is the one I have. It’s pretty small but works very well. I actually keep it Velcro’d to the top of my Arcade1up machine...You can’t see it at all even when standing.

https://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Rechargable-Battery-Black/dp/B00Z81U3YY/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1549570306&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=rii+mini+wireless+keyboard&dpPl=1&dpID=51cLu1CX-ZL&ref=plSrch

Mini keyboard imho as you can pretty much do evening with the right side of the keyboard

(Updated, Backlit) Rii i8+ 2.4GHz Mini Wireless Keyboard with Touchpad Mouse, LED Backlit, Rechargable Li-ion Battery-Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Z81U3YY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_IYfaCb7Q2P1YS

Rii mini i8+
It's a small form media keyboard which is plug and play (don't get the Bluetooth one, get the 2.4GHz wireless one).
The battery lasts for a very long time.
https://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Rechargable-Battery-Black/dp/B00Z81U3YY

I recommend using the following keyboard for HTPC.
Rii i8+ 2.4GHz Mini Wireless Keyboard with Touchpad Mouse, LED Backlit, Rechargable Li-ion Battery-Black
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Z81U3YY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

• Small and light enough to keep on a side table.
  
• Controls both mouse/keyboard
  
• USB RF has good range and doesn't require line of sight.
  
  Note: I also have a IR universal remote for basic HTPC functions. If I need to leave WMC/Kodi then I usually switch to the keyboard/mouse.

get ya one of these, I have android TV boxes on every room in the house and use these to control them [link] (http://amzn.com/B00Z81U3YY)

Any that mention 2.4Ghz will come with a small dongle that will need to be connected to your Android TV device via USB.

Any that only mention bluetooth will not use a dongle.


Right now I'm considering these two, personally:

On criteria that they are purely bluetooth with no dongle required, are small, backlit, have touchpads. and only cost about 20 dollars.

https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Keyboard-Touchpad-Android-QQ-Tech/dp/B00BALK9CM/

https://www.amazon.com/iPazzPort-Bluetooth-Wireless-Raspberry-KP-810-21SBL/dp/B015J6TEN8/

I have no idea if either are any good.

I have one of these working with Bluetooth, but haven't used it that much because I haven't been using my Pi with the TV set much:

(With Backlit) iPazzPort Bluetooth Mini Wireless Keyboard and Touchpad Mouse Combo for Raspberry Pi 3 and Android Smart TV / XBMC KP-810-21SBL (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015J6TEN8/

Seems to work fine except that it likes to go to sleep to save power and takes a second to wake back up if you leave it sitting.

Others report mouse jitter when using BT so I'm not really sure how well this works for other use cases like a full size keyboard with trackpad.

I've had it about a week now, the stylus it came with works well, but I'm using a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse combo like this one for it because it can be hard to double-click on the screen with the stylus and I don't want to crack it by pressing too hard.
It's a very responsive screen otherwise!

Yes, this one.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015O5UM6M/

This device does it all. Every face button you never knew you didn't need. Almost complete keyboard on back, extremely reliable for no-look typing. Very accurate air mouse.

However, it's USB wireless, so CEC TV On won't work once the Mi Box is asleep.

But hey, it's <$20. Just get it.

I bought this thing to use for chatting and it works really well!! I did have an actual full keyboard but that was just too big and annoying but yeah this thing is nice and small easy to type with! It also has backlit keys which is nice for playing/typing if you play at night in the dark.

I have the MI box and just received the Rii mini i8+ bluetooth keyboard. After several attempts,pts I can not connect bluetooth to the Mi box. Box sees it but will not pair, yet pairs in seconds with Samsung TV tablets phones . No problem
Anyone else try a Bluetooth accessories and get them working onow the new MI box.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GCPVZDW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have these:

MechanicalEagle Z-77: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DBVH16U/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Magicforce:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01ABUJ2KM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Tomoko: (I got a cheaper one that was only 77 keys but its not one amazon anymore) https://www.amazon.com/TOMOKO-Mechanical-Keyboard-Resistant-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01IHVN4GA/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&srs=14363847011&ie=UTF8&qid=1493431372&sr=1-1

A few things that I would change:

• More storage. I've gone from 120gb to 240gb to 500gb SSD, and I have a total of 4TB of HDD storage, external and internal. For example, you wouldn't be able to install Final Fantasy XV in its 4K texture mode on that drive at all. And a lot of games are in the 50-80gb range, meaning you'll only be able to install one game at a time.
  
• There is absolutely no point in buying a liquid cooler. Spending excessive amounts of money on cooling is only relevant if you plan to overclock the cheese out of the CPU, and even then liquid coolers are mostly for aesthetics.
  
• Get a better power supply. Get something that's 500W or 600W, just do that you have some overhead, and get something other than the cheapest Corsair CX stuff. Get something from EVGA or Be Quiet!, if you want to be sure.
  
• Do not buy a mechanical keyboard. Mechanical keyboards are a massive luxury, and very dependent on individual preferences. Trust me, I bought a cheap mechanical keyboard and I regret the switch choice I got. Same applies to the mouse: Mice are very dependent on comfort, so buying an expensive mouse if you don't even know whether you will use all the features or like the shape is a bad idea. Again, trust me on this, I've gone through like 6 gaming mice by now. Rather, buy something more utilitarian, like this good mouse+keyboard combo
  
  tl;dr: Spend less on keyboard, mouse, CPU cooler. Spend more on storage and PSU. If you've got leftover after that, upgrade to a Ryzen 1600.

For KB+M, this Cooler Master Combo is pretty good.

I think one of the best deals is the Cooler Master MasterKeys Lite L Gaming Keyboard and Mouse Combo, but the keyboard is a Men-chanical keyboard.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KBXKMM6/ref=twister_B01CJFGUZW?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

If you don't want to be loud you could just hook up a ps4/xbone/wired 360 controller and just play your games like that but for when he's not sleeping could use this keyboard mouse bundle if you like the looks https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KBXKMM6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_13?smid=A2R0FX412W1BDT&psc=1

I went here /r/buildapcforme to get advice for my build.

I'd also like to say that while gaming gear like special keyboards and mice are popular, there's no shame in using a simple mouse and keyboard set. I'm using this thing, found it cheap at the store, and never ran into any issues with input lag or anything playing games.

That said, If you do play online games with a voice chat, you may want to spend a little for a better mic.

Oh, and a boobie mouse pad might be good to consider, I have to deal with relatives, so mine is plain black with no tiddies, but these types of mouse pad are great

Not really, you can get a set like the logitech wave that pairs the mouse and keyboard to one receiver, or a keyboard with a trackpad build in

I'm a fan of Logitech's Wave keyboard, which you can get in the MK550 combo. I find it much nicer to type on than a standard flat one, and the combo also includes a nicer mouse (it adds forward/back buttons and horizontal scrolling to the MK520's mouse). The keyboard isn't backlit, but that's not much of an issue on desktop keyboards.

It's $3 more on Amazon, and I'd say it's very much worth the extra money.

I've been using this [Logitech keyboard and mouse combo](logitech mk550 wireless wave keyboard and mouse combo — includes keyboard and mouse, long battery life, ergonomic wave design https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003VAHYNC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_7oGSCb1G1FQ18) for about 10 years. It has really helped.

Edit: linking on mobile sucks... Sorry.

It's part of this combo: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Combo-Mk520-Keyboard/dp/B003VANO7C

I actually went from a Microsoft Natural Ergonomic 4000 to this one, and I'm pretty happy with it. It's not an amazing keyboard, but it's one of the better cheap ones I've used.

I can't say with confidence, but I think you would have a better chance with a powered usb hub. I don't think there is anything that would prevent a hub from working but it would probably largely depend on your specific hardware.

My only experience has been with RF LINK 2-Port HDMI USB KVM Switch

It actually has two extra usb ports besides the mouse/keyboard.

If you just need one extra port, another option might be to pick up a keyboard/mouse combo that goes through a single usb connection (Specifically, we use the Logitech Wireless Combo Mk520 With Keyboard and Mouse with our switch.

I might have a powered USB hub around here somewhere that I could test with my kvm just to report to you if it works, but it might be buried too deep for me to find... and again it might just depend on the specific hardware.

If it were me, I'd probably just try a powered USB hub since you can pick one up fairly cheap.

https://www.amazon.com/LogitechMk520-Wireless-Keyboard-Mouse-Combo/dp/B003VANO7C

The keyboard is great although as a developer I miss the context button the right alt and ctrl. The mouse is alright for the couch but a tad too small for my hand to always use it, have another on on my desk. Range is good, although it's only 5 feet between receiver and mouse/keyboard.

I don't know if this is any good for $35. http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Combo-Mk520-Keyboard/dp/B003VANO7C/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1426660320&sr=8-10&keywords=bluetooth+keyboard+logitech+full+size

because it's not. It's this complete nightmare. Or a variation thereof, at least. OP can chime in if he wants to but I'd bet money that's an off the shelf disgusto-beast.

You joke but...

http://www.amazon.com/Bamboo-Handcrafted-Keyboard-Mouse-Combo/dp/B003VOOOKY

I actually started using a remote a while back for my first HTPC, and haven't really been able to consider any of my builds as complete until I have a remote to accompany it. While I can't really tell you what would be best, since every situation, PC, user, and budget may require something a little bit different, my two current HTPCs use the Lenovo N5902, and the Logitech Wireless MiniController.

Even something simple like the HP WMC media remote works wonders, and offers all of the functionality (albeit for compatible systems) of a higher priced device for a fraction of the cost.

When I first setup my main HTPC I used a Logitech K400, and after using all of the following:

1. Lenovo N5902
   
2. MCE Remote
   
3. FAVI Keyboard Remote
   
4. Logitech Dinovo Mini
   
5. Logitech Harmony One
   
   My wife still says she preferred the original K400 keyboard.

New here -- Clicked around to try to figure some of this stuff out but got lost.

I have a few questions:

1. I have a Noppoo Choco Mini with MX Cherry Red swiches seen here: https://www.amazon.com/Noppoo-84-Technology-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B0091QOCNA?th=1
   
   How good is this keyboard? General rating or comments would be cool. Is Cherry MX Red good for typing long essays/notes? I also have this: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Mechanical-Keyboard-Tactile-High-Speed/dp/B009C98NPY -- Which I use for gaming/general purpose.
   
   I wanted to start using my noppoo again cause I have a few long essays coming up
   
   
2. I dont particularly like the feel of the standard keys that it comes with and was thinking about swapping them out for new keycaps. What are my options in texture for a full set of keys for this keyboard? Color scheme recommendation or is there any central hub where I can see all of my options?
   

By default, F1 to F5 are used to target self or party players. They're definitely not necessary (I personally never use them, rebinded target party1/2 to scroll up and scroll down).

I don't know if it's available in blue switches(definitely black and red), but you might want to check Noppoo Choc Mini 84 USB which is also includes the function keys. I don't own it, but I've also been shopping mechanical keyboards and it caught my attention.

Noppo Choc Mini

Steelseries 6gv2

Razer Black widow

Fairly solid choices without spending too much.

Zowie EC1 Evo

Zowie FK

SS Kinzu

G400

Razer Deathaddar

MS 3.0

Again solid choices for mice.

BenQ xl2420T

Samsung S23A700D

Asus VG236H

All these monitors are 120hz.

I'd also recommend getting a decent mousemat.

SS Qck Heavy

Anything in the QCK series will do you fine.

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Wired-Keyboard-Mouse-Bundle/dp/B00B7GV802/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486659707&sr=8-1&keywords=amazon+basics+keyboard+and+mouse

I like your idea, but I think it's less likely to happen as opposed to M&K support. I would prefer a more level playing field, K&M support gives me that w/out having to buy a full PC. Mice and keyboards aren't that expensive.

​

Edit: K&M combo starts at $15 https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Wired-Keyboard-Mouse-Bundle/dp/B00B7GV802/ref=sr_1_3_acs_sk_pb_2_sl_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1543339419&sr=8-3-acs&keywords=mouse+and+keyboard

>OS

Here

>Mouse and keyboard

Okay... but what makes you think that most people don't have a functional, if basic, mouse and keyboard?

>Monitor

Are you serious...? People can still use their TV for gaming you know. There's no evidence to suggest that most people don't use their TVs when PC Gaming, so...

Anyway, IF they were to get a monitor...

Frankly though, the more logical thing to buy to use your PC on a TV would be this.

So if we go by the "having to get a monitor" route (Assuming that A. They won't use the PC on their TV, and B. They don't have a 16:9 monitor that runs at 60hz), then the build in total would be $520.

But without the monitor, and just going with a controller on their TV, then the cost comes out $447.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor | $159.99 @ Micro Center
Motherboard | MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard | $44.89 @ SuperBiiz
Memory | Team Elite Plus 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $58.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $104.99 @ SuperBiiz
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $52.24 @ Directron
Video Card | Gigabyte Radeon R9 270X 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card | $173.99 @ NCIX US
Case | NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case | $31.99 @ Micro Center
Power Supply | EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply | $33.99 @ SuperBiiz
Monitor | Acer G226HQLBbd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor | $101.98 @ Newegg
Other| AmazonBasics Keyboard+Mouse| $15.00
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $778.05
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-21 19:21 EST-0500 |

• 4590 for $160 is a fantastic deal (all hail MicroCenter). 4 cores will be much appreciated in Photoshop.
  
• Cheap, reliable motherboard.
  
• 8GB of RAM- typically sufficient, and at this budget 16GB is a bit of a stretch. You can always pop in another 8GB stick in the future if you need more.
  
• MX100 is the best price/performance SSD right now, and 256GB is a really nice spot. 128GB is a bit more economical ($60), so if you want you can drop down.
  
• WD Blue is the standard 1TB HDD, and is pretty reliable.
  
• The 270X will pretty easily handle your gaming needs. You could consider dropping down to a 270, 265, or 260X- look at some benchmarks if you want to drop down.
  
• Source 210 is a good case at this price point- solid airflow and decent build quality.
  
• Pretty good budget PSU- only 80+ certification, but it's got decent quality. 430W is enough.
  
• Well reviewed 1080p monitor, seems to be pretty good.
  
• AmazonBasics provides alright peripherals at this price. Can't really fit in a mechanical keyboard/gaming mouse here, so this'll have to do- it's really not bad.

> They said someone was remotley controlling it and looking into whatever files mom had stored.

How would they know that? That's very serious.

One bit of advice: Install Linux for them. Seriously, it is worth it. There is no way to get a Windows PC safe if one of the user is incapable of using a PC. There are almost no attacks targeting Linux, and you do not need much skill to configure it. It is very easy to install Ubuntu, at least as easy as installing Windows.

> Also can i use one copy of win 10 if i decide to do 2 builds?

No. Not if both are active.

For the build:

pc-kombo shared list

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Pentium G4600 | $86.99 @ Amazon.com
Motherboard | ASRock H270M-ITX/ac | $99.99 @ Amazon.com
Memory | Crucial Ballistix Sport LT red DDR4-2666 CL16 (8 GB) | $64.99 @ Amazon.com
SSD | SanDisk Plus 240GB TLC (240 GB) | $84.00 @ Amazon.com
Case | Fractal Design Define Nano S Mini-ITX Gehäuse - black | $49.99 @ newegg
Power Supply | EVGA 430 W1 (430 W) | $36.38 @ Amazon.com
| Total | $422.34
| Generated by pc-kombo 11.09.2017 |

The USB ports are on the top, not the front, hope that's okay. The build has a fast dual core processor and will use its integrated graphics, for the usage you described it will be more than fine. 250GB SSD for storage. Otherwise that is a nice small build that has Wifi.

You can add any external drive you want, like https://www.amazon.com/Elements-Portable-External-Drive-WDBUZG0010BBK-WESN/dp/B00CRZ2PRM/.

I'd get a keyboard and mouse set, like https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Wired-Keyboard-Mouse-Bundle/dp/B00B7GV802/. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009513 would work as display.

Overall that is closer to $600 than $400, but you get modern and fast components for that.

Mumbai is a great place to assemble a computer. Lamington Road is on par with Nehru Place, even better perhaps. Plus, you'll be able to get stuff delivered to your place (if you rent your own) from PrimeABGB with COD.

Though it doesn't make sense to lug peripherals across India (especially with GST being uniform) I can't resist sharing this -

AmazonBasics Wired Keyboard and Wired Mouse Bundle Pack https://www.amazon.in/dp/B00B7GV802/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_w-a.AbGNNRXVY

On sale for 0.8K right now. And while they aren't the best in the business, Amazonzbasics gets the job done. In fact, better than Zebronics I'd say.

Thank you frand, and best wishes for your GPU hunt as well. I'm planning on going for a GPU upgrade about a year from now, so your experience will be instructive.

about q2: I have this one connected: https://www.amazon.com/Rii-I8-Wireless-Touchpad-Keyboard/dp/B00B9996LA/ and it's working brilliantly, so I would expect yes

Here are examples of wireless remotes that will work with it (via dongle).

Hausbell for 15.99

Logitech K400 for 24.99

http://www.amazon.com/Hausbell-H7-Wireless-Entertainment-Keyboard/dp/B00B9996LA

cheaper versions are available on the interwebs.

For emulators you want faster single core performance.

You can look for HTPC cases. Silverstone makes some nice ones that fit in entertainment centers. I've got a Silverstone GD06 for my living room HTPC. I also game on it with an xbox 360 controller.

Bluray players for Windows suck. There are no free ones so you'll have to pay for one. Sometimes your bluray drive may come with software bundled to do this.

You'll still need something like an air mouse to navigate the OS when not using the xbox controller. Or just a wireless keyboard + trackpad.

You can pick up a mini keyboard on Amazon for ~20$. Also try chrome remote desktop for shutting off you computer from an app on your phone.

https://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Touchpad-Keyboard-Android/dp/B00B9996LA

I have this one:
Rii I8 Mini 2.4Ghz Wireless Touchpad Keyboard With Mouse For Pc, Pad, Xbox 360, Ps3, Google Android Tv Box, Htpc, Iptv (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B9996LA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_pLXxwbQ9HZ24T

It works well. The home button doesn't work. However, the script like "e" button directly below the home button actually works as a home button. That "e" button can invoke firestarter and the sleep/mirror/settings menu. Magnifying search button brings up text search. Media D-pad on left works (not volume). Two finger scroll on trackpad works.

Edit: no menu button like remote

You could get a mini keyboard with the wireless dongle. I have one for my pi and it works great.

http://www.amazon.com/Hausbell-Wireless-Entertainment-Keyboard-Touchpad/dp/B00B9996LA/ref=pd_cp_pc_1

I haven't tried it. I have been using this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B9996LA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I love this thing. It doesn't need any driver downloads, connects quickly, very quick charge, really long battery life. I never remember to turn this thing off, but it has an auto off feature. you just press any key to wake it back up. It has a surprisingly good range too. it's just not as pretty as that one though.

I have this guy: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B9996LA/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

But it mostly sits in a drawer, use it only for when I need to type in password for driver updates, etc.

Skip fake coin door with buttons, just do a real coin door at that point. Easy to wire one up to an ipac or similar depending on what you are doing for an encoder. If you don't want to do the real coin door, you can also just put a yellow button next to each players start button for coin.

Pause, reset, and menu shouldn't have there own buttons. They can be done with shift keys and would be much cleaner looking. For example, holding 1 player start and pressing player 2 start can exit a game. Then you can have holding player 1 start and pulling down on the stick can pause. Reset is so rarely needed that you wouldn't want a button for it, but it is easy enough to add a shift key for it if you would like.

I've played a lot of video pinball, and I do enjoy it for the most part. I have been spoiled by playing it on setups designed exclusively for it however. Virtual pinball really needs to played on a big vertically oriented screen to get the right effect. Any real pinball machine completely outclasses virtual so just be aware that those are easy enough to find. With those things in mind I would say skip the pinball stuff for now.

How you want to do your sound setup will best determine how to deal with volume. Some folk use an amp and home theater rear speakers, or car audio speakers. If you were to go that route I would say just hide the actual knob somewhere that is easy to access. Maybe up near the power switch that you would want to mount near the top right side of the machine, above and behind the marquee. Some decent 2.1 pc speakers come with a volume knob that could easily be mounted in that spot as well. If you are determined to do it in software, you can use shift keys as mentioned earlier.

Here is the controversial opinion: Don't bother 6 buttons per player. I find that while many of those 6 button fighting games are great, they just don't get played enough to warrant all of those buttons. If you need to scratch that fighting game itch you can go with something Neo Geo, like Last Blade 2, Samurai Showdown 2, or Garou. All of which are amazing games by the way.

I would also say don't bother with a keyboard and mouse tray. Just adds another level on complexity that isn't needed. Just use a wireless mouse keyboard combo and throw it on top of the cab when you aren't using it. I personally use one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B9996LA/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

TL;DR Less is more

I'm using a Rii8, it has backlighting unlike the Hausbell:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B9996LA

$20 is all you need: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BP5KOPA

(though probably $40 for the aussie tax version :( )

Some cheap suggestions. Velcro Ties to clean up the wires, Wireless Keyboard Mouse Combo

I'm looking now I don't need anything expensive just something to get the basics. http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Combo-MK270-Keyboard/dp/B00BP5KOPA/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1407965950&sr=1-1&keywords=wireless+keyboard

Then here it is again so you don't have to look for it

Tell you what here's another that includes an official distributed Windows 8

Here's a K/M

Total combined price:$335.57

It was this one, but it looks like it's discontinued: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-MK270-Wireless-Keyboard-Mouse/dp/B00BP5KOPA/ref=sr_1_5

[I don't care just get the bloody thing] (http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Combo-MK270-Keyboard/dp/B00BP5KOPA/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1416108102&sr=1-1&keywords=mouse+and+keyboard)

• Thrustmaster T300 Alcantara Edition
  
  
• Thrustmaster TH8A Shifter
  
  
• Fanatec ClubSport Handbrake V1.5
  
  
• Fanatec ClubSport USB Adapter
  
  
• Playseat Challenge
  
  
• 2 of these RAM mounts
  
  
• Logitech MK270 Wireless Keyboard and Mouse
  
  
• HTC Vive
  
  
• Tek Republic USB 3.0 Hub
  
  You also need a drill and a bunch of different size M6s to attach everything to the Challenge.
  
  Oh, and I put a bunch of foam behind my pedals.

Try this one brother
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Combo-MK270-Keyboard/dp/B00BP5KOPA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417162086&sr=8-1&keywords=keyboard+and+mouse

or this one

http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Wireless-Keyboard-Optical-Mouse/dp/B00B7GV4JC/ref=zg_bs_1194464_2

People never seem to like Logitech even though they make super quality peripherals for the price. Go for the Logitech MK270 Wireless Keyboard/Mouse Combo

The reach will allow couch gaming and battery life is super long. I've had it for almost a year and still haven't needed to change the batteries. I use my computer every day.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor | $259.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler | $24.88 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $110.66 @ Newegg
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory | $67.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $84.98 @ OutletPC
Storage | Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $45.88 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card | $319.99 @ Newegg
Case | Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case | $49.99 @ Micro Center
Power Supply | EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $64.99 @ NCIX US
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) | $87.95 @ OutletPC
Wireless Network Adapter | Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter | $29.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor | Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor | $249.00 @ Amazon
Other| Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Mouse| $16.99
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1463.18
| Mail-in rebates | -$60.00
| Total | $1403.18
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-28 16:49 EST-0500 |

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor | $259.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler | $24.88 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $110.66 @ Newegg
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory | $67.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $69.89 @ OutletPC
Storage | Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $63.88 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI Radeon R9 390X 8GB Video Card | $379.99 @ Micro Center
Case | Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case | $49.99 @ Micro Center
Power Supply | EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $79.99 @ Newegg
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) | $87.95 @ OutletPC
Wireless Network Adapter | Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter | $29.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor | Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor | $249.00 @ Amazon
Other| Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Mouse| $16.99
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1551.09
| Mail-in rebates | -$70.00
| Total | $1481.09
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-28 16:51 EST-0500 |

Both include all peripherals. The slightly overbudget one, is a better card, but not significantly, though you will probaby see a bit of a fps boost.
Keyboard and Mouse.

Logitech Wireless Combo MK270 with Keyboard and Mouse ($21)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BP5KOPA/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Been using it for almost 2 years with my PS4 and no issues. I primarily use the controller for gameplay, the keyboard to chat, and mouse to select players if outside my party/alliance for Raise.

uhhhh... at this price range:

mouse & keyboard

monitor

so we got £240 for a monitor, keyboard and mouse. I can work very well with this. I will give you a few options. Going from low end of the budget to the higher end. You have all kinds of options.

But first! Peripherals are all very hard to suggest, if we don't have enough information. So I picked the ones that I find will work in most cases.
But there are a lot of things we need to know before we can suggest the right setup. But anyway, here is the list. No I won't explain to much why I picked them. I did went for these because I think they will work for "most" people. But if you got the time to answer the questions, I will have a better idea if my suggestion will work for you.

• Mouse: How do you grip the mouse? How many buttons do you want? I personally use 0 when I play any game.
  
• Keyboard: I recommend to go read about Mechanical Keyboards switch types first. Then after you know wich switch would be for you, you can give me that information. Then my other questions would be, do you want a TenKeyLess? Basicly numpadless keyboard. If you don't, do you want any "macro keys"? This can be helpful in some games, but in my personal experience I never used them when gaming. Only for some text macro's, push to talk, screenshot and other stuff. But not really to use while fighting a boss or anything.
  
  

  1:
  

  PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
  
  Type|Item|Price
  :----|:----|:----
  Monitor | Dell P2214H 60Hz 21.5" Monitor | £78.00 @ Amazon UK
  Other| SteelSeries QcK Mass Mousepad| £14.00
  Other| CoolerMaster Storm Devastor Gaming bundle (blue LEDs)| £30.00
  | | Total
  | Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | £122.00
  | Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-10 22:08 BST+0100 |
  
  

  2:
  

  PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
  
  Type|Item|Price
  :----|:----|:----
  Monitor | Dell P2214H 60Hz 21.5" Monitor | £78.00 @ Amazon UK
  Keyboard | Cooler Master CM Storm Quick Fire TK Wired Gaming Keyboard | £69.99 @ Ebuyer
  Other| SteelSeries QcK Mass Mousepad| £14.00
  Other| Logitech G400s| £29.00
  | | Total
  | Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | £190.99
  | Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-10 22:10 BST+0100 |
  
  

  3:
  

  PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
  
  Type|Item|Price
  :----|:----|:----
  Monitor | Dell U2414H 60Hz 23.8" Monitor | £167.94 @ Aria PC
  Keyboard | Cooler Master CM Storm Quick Fire TK Wired Gaming Keyboard | £69.99 @ Ebuyer
  Other| SteelSeries QcK Mass Mousepad| £14.00
  Other| Logitech G400s| £29.00
  | | Total
  | Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | £280.93
  | Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-10 22:14 BST+0100 |
  
  I just got negative feedback from other users for suggestion the Dell P2214H in a £1400 setup. But I highly doubt that ANY of those guys did any research about this monitor. I got the P2314H myself and it's an outstanding monitor. Here is a short review about the monitor and my god it's so awesome. The stand alone is such a winner for me.
  
  The 8ms response time is not noticeable at all when playing games, not even in shooters. No motion blur was seen on my side. Of course I sadly can not really say this about the P2214H, but it's the same series so I assume that they are pretty simulair.
  
  For the mouse/keyboard I would love to get the above questions answered before I tell you why I went with these products. I do know that in my keyboard part I only talk about mechanical. So if you think you don't like that, well then we have to go membrame. But do give me feedback about tenkeyless and macro keys. Thanks!

CM Storm Devastator
is pretty good from my uses. Cheap and efficient.

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ

I had this keyboard when i first started pc gaming and it was great for me, comes with a mouse too. Not flat keys though.

This is amazing. I was going to update it to include that the 700 was without the monitor so this works out. I just have a few questions about the build:

1. Is it worth it to upgrade to the i5-6600 for $40 more? Would this make a big difference in terms of editing maybe or gaming?
   
2. I was leaning towards the GTX 1060. I know it's high in demand right now, but would there be more availability in a month? But if I was able to get it, what's the price difference and is it worth it over the RX 480? Also which brand because there are a lot.
   
3. For the monitor I was thinking the HP Pavilion 21.5-Inch IPS LED HDMI VGA Monitor https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015WCV70W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_JHsMxb3JVZAPX
   I'm not sure what the big differences are or if there are any. I think that the HP aesthetically looks nicer
   
4. Is this a solid keyboard? For some reason the way it's designed, it's look really cheap and kind of over the top. My friend has a Cooler Master Devastator - LED Gaming Keyboard and Mouse Combo Bundle (Blue Edition) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_AstMxbMHYQ6GA that he said he would sell to me for $10. Idk too much a out keyboards so as long as it looks simlle and works well, I'm happy.
   
5. Do you think a wireless card is necessary? I'm not sure if I'll have access to Ethernet(probably will).
   
6. My old gaming laptop has two 512GB hard drives. Would it be smart to snag one of them? Is it possible to attach it to this computer?
   
   EDIT: Aesthetically

You could get the coolermaster cm storm devastator gaming bundle, $50 for mouse and keyboard but you can probably find it cheaper somewhere. http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1397268264&sr=8-1&keywords=Cooler+master+cm+storm+bundle

I was planning on spending $220 for mech keyboard and nice mouse when building but ended up buying the Cooler Master Storm Devastator keyboard/mouse set for $30.

The money I saved there allowed me to not cut corners on anything else while giving me ample time to consider if I really needed a top end keyboard while playing just fine with this one.

They come in red or blue LED and I bought mine from Amazon on sale for $30 but it's now $40 there. This link has it for $28.62 and I think you'd be hard pressed to find a better bang for buck. I'm no pro but it works just fine for me.

http://www.ncixus.com/products/?usaffiliateid=1000031504&sku=85648&vpn=SGB-3010-KKMF1-US&manufacture=COOLERMASTER

Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/?tag=pcpapi-20

The CM Storm Devastator is a mouse/keyboard combo, backlit, and on sale now for under $30.

I have this keyboard/mouse combo: http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/
The keyboard is nice. can also come in green or red if you want. the mouse died on me once, but I opened it up to look for any faults, didnt see anything wrong, closed it, and it has been magically working since.


You don't necessarily have to upgrade the motherboard. socket 775 processors are dirt cheap now: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-E8400-3-0GHz-Processor-EU80570PJ0806M/dp/B0019NKGR4/


But then again it looks like you'll have to stick with it for a few years cause I dont remember anything at all from when I was 3. I know I got a gameboy color for my 4th birthday bundled with pokemon yellow. The party was at mcdonalds too. fun times

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ

Cooler master devastator. The keyboard is the best membrane keyboard I've used, and the mouse is relatively decent too.

Okay, here are two budget keyboard + mouse combos that probably exceed standard consumer hardware in performance even if they are a little dodgy compared to better brands:

http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Keyboard-Edition/dp/B00DKXXAAQ

http://www.amazon.com/eSPORTS-COMMANDER-Ilumination-Keyboard-KB-CMC-PLBLUS-01/dp/B00VEU6LYE

They each cost around $30 which is $10-20 less than the cost of a controller (yes I'm aware that you don't need a 2nd one but seriously, who owns a console and doesn't have at least 2 controllers?)

Looking at a gaming mouse. I bought the CM Storm Devastator keyboard & mouse set a while ago. I'm wondering how much better is something like a Logitech G502?

I know the G502 is one of the best (if not the best) on the market, but I'm just wondering how much better it is than what I have and is it worth spending $70 on it when I already have a mouse.

If you need a mouse as well, the CM Storm Devastator combo on amazon is pretty good for the price.

Link

Keyboard

nice, would you like to answer some more questions?
i have a keyboard and mouse right now but would this be a good budget combo? im going for a black and blue vibe for my build

.05 cents under m9 :D

http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Keyboard-Edition/dp/B00DKXXAAQ

congrats on the setup completion! The curvature on that mouse is sexyyy. good luck streaming!

I would be interested in the Xsplit license! I believe mine is set to expire some time this year, a little extra extension would be nice. :)

My current keyboard/mouse setup is the Cooler Master Devastator combo pack, blue. I got it when i built my PC last year and had a budget to stick to, so just got a combo. It definitely works fine and the lights are cool! blue is my favorite color too. im content with it, but of course could always be better.

I would definitely love to eventually upgrade. I have my eyes set on the Razer BlackWidow Chroma Stealth Silent RGB keyboard and the Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum mouse. so expensive. eventually, eventually. T___T

Oh. Sorry mate. It's really not feasible to get a decent gaming rig for less, so this is gonna be a bit over budget. For the monitor, I'd go with this one: http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-GW2255-21-5-Inch-LED-lit-Monitor/dp/B00AX9Z6MU

For the keyboard/mouse, you can't beat this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1451177590&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=Cooler+master+Devastator&dpPl=1&dpID=41rw%2BHIOJoL&ref=plSrch

comes with the cooler master devastator combo mouse and keyboard pack. http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1452916583&sr=8-1&keywords=cooler+master+devastator

If you're on a budget like I was, Coolermaster peripherals are amazing. I recently upgraded from a really sketchy $20 chinese kb/m set to the $30 CM Storm Devastator kb/m combo, it's fantastic. I love how the keys are raised, almost like a mechanical style. And the backlighting on such an inexpensive set is impressive. I could never really justify myself spending hundreds of dollars on peripherals so I definitely appreciate CM's offering.

Not much choices for a wireless keyboard at that range. You could get a Logitech ergonomic keyboard. Not many options out there at this price range and wireless that are quality built. If you could bump up your budget, you could get a XArmor U9W wireless mechanical keyboard for a little under $110. Other than that, it's just generic wireless membrane keyboards at your price range. May I ask why it has to be wireless? Couch gaming setup?

Did you mean keyboard/mouse combo? If so, I personally like this one.

I would then get or make a laptop stand that opens and elevates your laptop screen, but that's a viewing height/desk space preference.

The Amazon reviews agree with me in saying I think this is the best combo for the money: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Combo-Keyboard-920-002555/dp/B003VAHYNC/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1322984529&sr=1-3

If you want something with a little smaller form factor, the Logitech MK520 is incredible. Battery will last for 6 months or more easily. I've had both and a few more models from Logitech, along with a couple from Microsoft, and these 2 above are by far the best I've had.

Thoughts? https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Combo-Mk550-Keyboard/dp/B003VAHYNC/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8

I would highly encourage checking out some professional workstation laptops - so much better built than gaming notebooks, will last a very long time.

Thinkpad P51 is a great start. I'd configure it with an SSD (or add one yourself if possible).

Or, if you're looking for something cheaper and don't mind a 940MX, the T470p is also an excellent option. Still has a quad-core for editing. I'd configure this with the 7820HQ and whatever else you feel is necessary.

Wireless mouse and keyboard

I'm on my second set of the Logitech 920-002555 MK550 Wireless Wave Keyboard and Mouse Combo. I bought my first set almost 4 years ago and the mouse is still working (although the cursor started moving noticeably slower today), but the keyboard died last week. I really like the set, though. Wish it lasted longer, but it's $45 on Amazon, so not too bad for 4 years of everyday use at work.

I would highly recommend the Logitech MK550 Ergonoical and battery life is beyond overkill.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VAHYNC These are pretty good wireless combos if wireless is what your looking for.

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Combo-Mk520-Keyboard/dp/B003VANO7C

I use this. I'm about 10' away.

It doesn't. I think it's a terribly photoshopped image. The source is here: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Combo-Keyboard-920-002553/dp/B003VANO7C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1309635975&sr=8-1

I use the Logitech G602 wireless gaming mouse, the G13 Board for gaming, and a K520 Wireless Keyboard for standard typing.

The dedicated gaming board takes a little getting used to, but once you've figured it out and got it set up the way you like, you'll wonder how you ever played using just a regular keyboard.

This might be more or less what you're looking for.

I have a pretty good grasp on what I a going to get as far as my actual computer, but now I want to think about peripherals. I need a screen, keyboard, and mouse. I plan on upgrading the mouse relatively soon down the line, but want a filler for now. With that said how are these as options:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00413PHDM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3IQJXWPEPOQWY&coliid=I2TAYQF1O358XA

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003VANO7C/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3IQJXWPEPOQWY&coliid=I2Q0TLOOG1LM7E

Main use will be gaming (non competitive mostly, think RTS games, killing floor, and Minecraft mainly), Netflix and general browsing, as well as work (I need a decently comfortable keyboard).

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I bought this for my dad and he seems to be liking it a lot. ive used it a few times myself and it works perfect. logitech has always been a good brand for me.

https://www.amazon.com/LogitechMk520-Wireless-Keyboard-Mouse-Combo/dp/B003VANO7C/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1479703208&sr=8-8&keywords=keyboard+mouse

edit: i forgot to post the link. they also make a cheaper version i would imagine would be pretty decent as well. hope this helps.

7 years later and I have no problems with my logitech mk520, still works flawlessly


http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003VANO7C/ref=redir_mdp_mobile?tag=pcpapi-20

Also the peripheral selection on pcpartpicker kind of sucks. I’d say just buy a deal from amazon, such as this one - https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0799FXMSN/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1525527493&sr=8-2-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=keyboard+and+mouse&psc=1 or if your willing to pay more for wireless, this one - https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003VANO7C/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1525527580&sr=8-6&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=keyboard+and+mouse&dpPl=1&dpID=41hFgLSJWKL&ref=plSrch

Keyboard: Wood (Bamboo) Keyboard

Mouse: Uh, Some logitech cheapie (corded) - the model number is long worn off.

Monitors: 2x Dell Ultrasharp 23" , 1x Dell Ultrasharp 27" (primary)

Chair: Herman Miller Aeron

Headphones: Shure SRH840 (big & comfy, and isolate very well - circum-aural as I can't stand having things press on my ears for long)

Mic: Clip-on no-name cheapie. Still sounds decent.

PC Spec, fwiw: Intel i5 Gen 3 ~2Ghz, 16GB RAM, AMD R9 270 2GB, 256GB OCZ Vertex 3 (maybe 4) 256GB.

(I'm not infront of it at the moment, and I've long stopped memorising model numbers of everything I own)

I think the wood to use would depend greatly on the the design. If you're going for an all-in-one design that is common, where the mouse buttons are part of the upper surface (last link), you'll want something that has good bending/springiness to it.
There are some wooden mice already on the market and you could look at their designs to see what you like and don't:

amazon
alibaba1
alibaba2

If you want something like the last, look at the following page for the data on what kind of wood to use:
wood strength

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003VOOOKY?pc_redir=1413332688&robot_redir=1 Comes with mouse as well. Bought it months ago and love it.

Logitech Dinovo Mini

I've used this in conjunction with my Harmony One for about 5 years, and it works very well most of the time, sometimes the trackpad gets a little wonky, but i attribute that to greasy fingers.

It's very small but works very well for putzing around on the net from your couch. Plus it closes up so when it gets dropped between the cushions it wont have any erroneous buttons presses.

It also has the WAF. I dont have to install something on my wife's phone, or make sure either one of our batteries on our phone are not dead.

Been using the Logitech Mini for about 5 years now. Full keyboard and mousepad the size of my hand. I love it.

Harmony One remote and Dinovo Mini keyboard/mouse.

Do you have your Plex somehow feeding to XBMC or do they just watch the same folders?

It looks like they fixed that in razer tartarus, at least from the picture hand rest looks a bit smaller. but lack of regulation is definitely a bad thing.

When I used n52 I just used 2 rightmost buttons of lowest row as modifiers and it was working fine, however I feel that for DOTA it just have too few keys.

I used logitech g13 for a bit, but to be honest it wasnt that much more ergonomical (i preferred n52) than just a good keyboard and this one have f1-f12 keys close to rest of the keys so it can be used without moving fingers too much

It's not a no-name :'(

And mine was $67. They retailed for around $85 in the US when I ordered it, but nowhere had any in stock with blues. So I bought three of them via Taobao from China. Used one myself, let my mother use the other, and flipped the last one on ebay for a small profit.

Also one with Reds is only $104.99 with free shipping on Amazon.

Not to mention it is the only USB keyboard you'll ever find with true NKRO.

And a big reason I selected the Choc Mini is because of its layout. Three things in particular:

• It situates the F-row directly above the num row.
  
• It has dedicated arrow keys while still retaining a tiny footprint.
  
• There's no uneven spacing between any of the keys.
  
  As far as I've found, there are no other keyboards which have all three of those features.

Also op - start off small if you have to. If you are getting stressed , start with 1-3 macros and work up from there.

Future leveling, NEVER EVER click, always keybind your abilities. So when you hit max level, you won't have to learn it all.

If you have anymore questions, ask me and i'll help you out bro.

edit:

ALSOOOO for the heck of it, they make smaller keyboards ex: http://www.amazon.com/Noppoo-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Switches/dp/B0091QOCNA

Might help if you have issues or smaller hands but i'd only get them once you've given it a few months of playing.

I'm using the noppo choc mini to type this, and absolutely love it.

It's durable, slick, and just looks good. Plus, it's on sale right now (i got mine for like $130)

A keyboard with the same layout as the [Noppo Choc Mini](https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Cherry-Switches/dp/B0091QOCNA) that is NOT 10-key-less (i.e. includes a number pad)

This product does not exist anywhere. A keyboard where the F keys line up with the Number keys but also has a number pad.

Oh, I see. Thanks, but one more thing. Do you have any recommendations as far as keyboards go? I was thinking of getting this one. But, since it's my first "real" keyboard, I figured there may be brands I'm unaware existed.

MX Red

http://www.amazon.com/Noppoo-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Switches/dp/B0091QOCNA/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1421265616&sr=1-2&keywords=mini+mechanical+keyboard

MX Black

http://www.amazon.com/Noppoo-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Switches/dp/B00A45WJZA/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1421265616&sr=1-10&keywords=mini+mechanical+keyboard

Is this brand good? It's one that I haven't heard of.

As far as mice, I used to use a naga back in cata/mop when binds were getting to be like 60+ including arena macro's and such. However, since blizz got rid of most abilities I have ditched the naga and I just use the SteelSeries Rival - very comfortable gaming mouse with two buttons on the side. I highly recommend this mouse, plenty of players use naga but for me personally it's an overwhelming amount of potential binds at this point.

Imo the best mmo keyboard to help out with some additional binds is the noppoo choc mini with cherry mx red switches. It's a mini keyboard and the F keys are located directly above the numbered keys so they're great for binds - after I ditched my naga I picked up this keyboard and those F keys are plenty to be able to comfortably bind everything without having the naga overkill.

I hope this helps and if you have any other questions please let me know!

I'm looking for an 84 key keyboard, I prefer the F keys to line up perfectly with the number keys. Does anyone know any models that look similar to
https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Cherry-Switches/dp/B0091QOCNA
or
https://www.amazon.com/DREVO-Gramr-Tenkeyless-Mechanical-Switch-White/dp/B075F1DB5X/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_lp_t_3?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=GPR8JFKQ0CQM5CYW8A3V&th=1

I cannot find any keyboards that use MX cherry switches, price isn't as much of an issue and i'm hesitant to go with the Drevo model as there isn't a Red switch alternative and am unfamiliar with the brand of switch

My Noppoo died and the seller is no longer in business and it was the best keyboard i've ever used, I'd appreciate any replies

I'm aware of the Poker models and such however they eliminate the F keys completely and I would enjoy having those FeelsBadMan

I LOVE vortex and i use the Poker 3 but I really dislike the layout of the Race 3 its not what im looking for I want like the layout of the noppoo mini https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Cherry-Switches/dp/B0091QOCNA or the plum nano with no spacing between the keys </3 I cant find either of those keyboards though for purchase and I can not find the layout of that keyboard anywhere

I used a keyboard like this for years, so the function keys on that Thermaltake look wayyy too outta the way for my tastes.

The best I've found is this Noppoo Choc Mini. Don't know that I've got the green to drop on it, though. Probably just a "save up" sort of thing, considering any other nice keyboard would probably wind up being half-way to the Noppoo anyway.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0091QOCNA/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=all

Typing this suggestion from a noppo actually. Nothing too insane or over the top. But I do sincerely love this keyboard for the price I got it at.

USB Hub . Cheap AF for a 1 to 4.

USB Keyboard and Mouse

This is the best you're gonna do for your budget:

ASUS 20" 1600x900 LED Monitor: http://www.amazon.com/VS207D-P-19-5-Inch-Screen-LED-Lit-Monitor/dp/B00B5Q6Y8U/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1408605057&sr=1-6

AmazonBasics USB Keyboard and Mouse Combo: http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Wired-Keyboard-Mouse-Bundle/dp/B00B7GV802/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1408605161&sr=1-4&keywords=usb+keyboard

Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Pentium-Processor-G3258-BX80646G3258/dp/B00KPRWAZQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1408605465&sr=8-1&keywords=pentium+g3258

ASUS H81M-E Motherboard: http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-H81M-E-DDR3-1333-Motherboards/dp/B00ESETQNG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1408605562&sr=8-1&keywords=asus+h81m-e#customerReviews

Crucial 4GB DDR3-1600: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006WAGG14/?tag=pcpapi-20

Seagate Barracuda 1TB: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005CT56R6/?tag=pcpapi-20

Silverstone PS08B Micro-ATX Case: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A1ZU1I0/?tag=pcpapi-20

EVGA 500W 80 Plus Power Supply: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H33SFJU/?tag=pcpapi-20

MSI Radeon R7 265 OC: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JJNQ8ZA/?tag=pcpapi-20

Total: $500

This will play all but ACU on the highest setting while being on budget.

The G3258 is a new processor, but you should get a motherboard with a new enough BIOS. I work retail and the latest batches we've been getting all work with the G3258.

Ryzen 5 3400g 13k

Asrock b450 pro4 7.2k

G.SKILL Sniper X 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3600 7.3k

Seagate barracuda 2tb 7200rpm 4.8k

Crucial P1 1000gb 9.2k

Cooler master mb511 3.8k

Corsair cx 550w 4.5k

LG 22" ips 1080p monitor 8.5k

Amazon basic mouse keyboard combo 0.85k

Brings to a total of 59150

Should suit your needs

My wife took to mouse and keyboard like it was nothing. I have a lot of trouble with it outside of RTS/MMO etc. I grew up with a controller though and she only had a few years of muscle memory to retrain.

If you have to sit far away from your computer just pick up a cheap Logitech or Microsoft wireless USB keyboard, nothing fancy. You can pull that off for under $30.00 on Amazon. If you sit closer try a wired set and it might be a bit cheaper + no batteries.

The lapdocks and such you see advertised by Razor, Logitech, Corsair etc. are expensive. Don't buy one if you don't know if you'll stick to a keyboard setup. You can get the "feel" for mouse and keyboard just fine on a plain old setup and spring for better stuff when sales come along if you want to stick with it.

For setup and end table and chair might do for a temporary/trial period. I've used a chair and living room table to play PC games on my TV downstairs. Obviously, much easier if you game at a desk.

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Here is a couple suggestions:

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-MK345-Wireless-Combo-Right-Handed/dp/B00QXT5T3U/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1549307296&sr=8-4&keywords=keyboard+and+mouse

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-S101-Keyboard-Ergonomic-Programmable/dp/B00NLZUM36/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1549307296&sr=8-5&keywords=keyboard+and+mouse

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Wired-Keyboard-Mouse-Bundle/dp/B00B7GV802/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1549307296&sr=8-7&keywords=keyboard+and+mouse

Yeah, there are a few inexpensive ones like this Amazon Basics one or this Microsoft one
The AmazonBasics keyboard and mouse combo is on sale and cheaper than just the keyboard. You can do a search on Amazon for more options, just search for media keyboard or multimedia keyboard

ok,so assuming your $40 budget goes either way, IMO the mouse is more important, so I would get the $30 logitech g203 prodigy, it's nothing special but it's sensor is great and it will last you a long time, for a keyboard you can get really anything wired, as long as you can get used to it, this amazonbasics one comes with a mouse for 15 bucks, you can get the keyboard alone but that takes 3-5 months to ship so you can throw that mouse on a laptop or something. the keyboard wont be the greatest experience, but you don't have anything better now. alternatively, if the input lag is only on the mouse and the keyboard is fine, then you could splurge on the g502 proteus spectrum, an rgb mouse (for right handed people only!) that I can proudly and unironically say is the greatest mouse of all time.

G203: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G203-Prodigy-Wired-Gaming-Black-910-004842/dp/B01M26YUKO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499469016&sr=8-1&keywords=g203

Generic Keyboard: https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Wired-Keyboard-Mouse-Bundle/dp/B00B7GV802/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1499468541&sr=8-3&keywords=keyboard+wired

G502 (remeber this is only for right handed people) : https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Proteus-Spectrum-Tunable-Gaming/dp/B019OB663A/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1499468912&sr=1-1&keywords=g502

I havent really proofread this so sorry for formatting

All you need is a recorder:

https://www.amazon.com/Support-Standalone-Surveillance-Security-Recorder/dp/B07DQ7T573

https://www.amazon.com/ZOSI-Security-Capability-Surveillance-Detection/dp/B06WP6Q898

A hard drive for the recorder: https://www.amazon.com/Purple-1TB-Surveillance-Hard-Drive/dp/B072L175ZW/

And a monitor if you do not have a spare lying around:

https://www.amazon.com/Haiway-Security-Surveillance-Controller-Resolution/dp/B07WCQ627G

and a mouse and keyboard, if you do not have spares:

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Wired-Computer-Keyboard-Bundle/dp/B00B7GV802

>Other necessary items such as a legal copy of Windows

I'll assume they want windows and a legal copy for that matter /r/microsoftsoftwareswap

>a good M+KB or controller

Assuming they don't already have some lying around, you can pick up cheap M+KB pairs, here or here or like this or like this or cheaper or slightly more expensive ones like this or this.
Or (if you can) go to your local shop and pick up a cheap pair for $5 each (and that's here in Australia).
And all of that's also assuming you want it brand new.

A controller isn't necessary, but if they really want them, assuming you want new and analog sticks, this or this would suffice.

>Even miscellaneous things like cables, filters

They come with the gear you buy, GPU's come with the needed output cable (whether that be DVI/VGA/HDMI/DP) even then, local shops have them for a couple dollars...except DP which is expensive for some reason. PSU always comes with it's own cables and filters come with the case as well.

>mouse-pad

You can pick up a nice cheap one for a dollar (or less if you're that desperate)

>thermal paste, zip-ties

Already on your CPU fan, which comes with your cpu, unless you buy it second hand or buy a (very expensive) high end one. Zip-ties are an unnecessary optional item (cases these days have notches etc for cables and even then you don't "need" them) that cost a dollar for 100.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B7GV802

ill bake you some cookies and trade those and the above keyboard for $200

Feast your eyes on this baby:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD A4-3300 2.5GHz Dual-Core Processor | $44.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard | MSI A55M-P33 Micro ATX FM1 Motherboard | $32.99 @ Newegg
Memory | G.Skill Ares Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $40.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $50.95 @ Amazon
Case | NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case | $37.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $41.99 @ Mwave
Other| Keyboard/Mouse| $14.99
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | $254.89
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-17 19:54 EDT-0400 |

Bluetooth keyboards don't work to well in my experience. I use this http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B9996LA/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_NY2Vtb1169YWP and it works great. Tried a Bluetooth first and it didn't work at all

Wow, that looks like a good option too. I've actually been looking into these:

https://www.amazon.com/Rii-I8-Wireless-Touchpad-Keyboard/dp/B00B9996LA/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

https://www.amazon.com/RUPA-Backlight-bluetooth-Multi-media-rechargeable/dp/B01JG1YXFG/ref=sr_1_3?

ie=UTF8&qid=1473112481&sr=8-3&keywords=handheld+keyboard+mouse+combo+gaming

https://www.amazon.com/UPPEL-Wireless-Touchpad-Keyboard-Android/dp/B011KRRYNM/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1473112481&sr=8-9&keywords=handheld+keyboard+mouse+combo+gaming

And maybe having the PS3 controller on standby... But that right there is definitely an option, I bet I even have a chat pad and controller laying around somewhere. Thanks man!

So far this has been my favorite. The mouse side of things is fairly responsive, the arrow keys are placed in a good spot to use as the primary method of navigation in xbmc. The back space key, ideally would be one step higher up. But it's still not too bad.

I think the biggest downside for you would be lack of keyboard lighting. Otherwise I love the thing. And it's only $15.

That said, I have another similar looking one. And it's terrible. The keys are stiff, and the reception is outright terrible. I swear it struggles at anything over a distance of four feet. So avoid the black one, and go for the white if you're interested.

I think that paste may be from the thread he mentions there. I can get the keyboard to try and pair, but it won't allow me to input the code and push enter. I think pressing the power button for 10 seconds from off should put it in pairing mode, but from there you're basically screwed.

http://www.amazon.com/Hausbell-H7-Wireless-Entertainment-Keyboard/dp/B00B9996LA/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1398827669&sr=8-2-fkmr0&keywords=hauswell+htpc+keyboard this allegedly works.

i've been using this one for several years for a gen2 ftv

rii mini

full functionality except for voice control

That's pretty much what I am doing. I use an android tv box and a fire stick . The one nice thing about the tv is you can use a USB keyboard/remote. There is a remote I used with my raspberry pi. It may work on the tv. I think it has backlight. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B9996LA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_OKghzb5DJN9WW

I've played around with plex in the past. The thing is, if I already need a PC running to be the server, what's the point of putting a client on another machine.

It would be awesome of have a media front end (or app) like plex on the PS4.

I'm definitely heading down the route of media center. Looking at either of these keyboards to control it.

https://www.amazon.com/Hausbell-H7-Wireless-Entertainment-Keyboard/dp/B00B9996LA

https://www.amazon.com/Fosmon-Portable-Bluetooth-Controller-Smartphones/dp/B00BX0YKX4

Just get a simple Miniature wireless keyboard for $20.

https://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Touchpad-Keyboard-Android/dp/B00B9996LA/ref=pd_lpo_147_lp_t_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=345KMKAS81DCW6T2E24A

I currently run a Gaming Rig/Media PC, so I might be able to help you out. If you're looking to stream throughout the house, Plex is the obvious choice, but I would recommend using Kodi on your main TV, if the PC is going to be hooked up to it.

I would also recommend this keyboard
it is pretty small and works really well. If the PC is hooked directly to the TV, it is easy enough to just use a web browser for Netflix/Hulu

For ripping blurays I would suggest using MakeMKV for the initial rip and handbrake for the compression. Also Filebot is a great naming tool that I use a lot.

Amazon has some.

Looks like an Rii I8

We use something like this

People who use these. Because of the tiny trackpad (and the distance from the screen) you want something with larger buttons that is very tolerant of inaccurate clicking. Most desktop-based programs aren't.

I got one of these:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B9996LA

And it works well, but I ended up also getting this:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J2LIC44 (EDIT: Looks like this one is discontinued so the price is high. Don't pay more than $50 for it.)

A full size keyboard + touchpad is way more convenient than a little thumb keyboard when typing shell commands.

Love my RasPlex but wish the interface wasn't so painfully slow at times.

I use this little mini-keyboard and it makes the setup very easy to use.

Android TV Box with its rudimentary remote:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JDCO22I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Remotes:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B9996LA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003UE52ME/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00B9996LA?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd

I’ve had mine 4 years now. The only thing I don’t like about it is the battery is weird looking but I haven’t had to replace it yet so I don’t know how weird.

I think the big question is how fast does the computer need to be and how much money are you willing to put into it?

As was already mentioned, you can get a Raspberry Pi for use as a media center. With the addition of a large USB stick or an external hard drive you can install Raspbian as the OS and XBMC as an application. This might require the addition of a small keyboard/mouse combo when in computer mode, but keyboards about the size of a game controller are available for less than $20. The biggest drawback here is that even the new Raspberry Pi model B+ only has 512 MB of RAM and can be a bit sluggish browsing the web. A Raspberry Pi with Wi-Fi, wireless keyboard, SD card, HDMI cable and power supply is still less than $100 though and is a bargain in my opinion. (I own four of them and currently run two 24/7. One functions as a media center and another is used as light duty Linux computer.)

If you need more power, consider an Intel NUC. Even the cheapest NUCs have Intel i3 processors in them and can run Windows or Linux. Most NUC PCs don't come with RAM or a hard drive though. This can easily push the price well past $400 dollars. Controlling one of these with VNC or XBMC Remote from your Android phone or tablet is simple once the remote software is installed.

You could also opt for something like a Roku, Amazon Fire TV, or an Apple TV as well.

If you don't find something that suits your needs or your budget right now, wait a few weeks. New, more powerful, devices come on the market often and the older stuff gets sold on clearance.

Yeah, I've considered buying one of these anyway. It's something that will be mostly used on my laptop, but this will give me a media center feel if I want to control my laptop from further away (like set it on a desk/table and open up some videos and such).

I have the old version of this, lasted me about 3 years before it started having issues. Good board overall, excellent range when it worked. (I used it pretty heavily, about 3-4 hours a day. It had a good life in that respect).

Wireless Keyboard and Mouse
or Wireless Keyboard with Touchpad
Wireless Headphones
and another pair of Wireless Headphones
and a Wireless Headset also another Wireless Headset

A unified receiver can be used for up to 3 unified devices, so if you have a unified mouse and keyboard they can both share the one receiver.

Something like this is only 20 bucks at the moment: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Combo-MK270-Keyboard/dp/B00BP5KOPA/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1412969969&sr=1-1

That would replace the port being used for your mouse and give you a wireless mouse and keyboard.

I use the MK710 to play on my couch, I'd imagine the beanbag would be similar, rest the keyboard across your lap and use it as needed.

$20

I guess you could use a trackball for those games if you are okay with the keyboard on your lap and the mouse on the couch.

EDIT: I forgot that you said you were 5-6 feet away, here is a wireless one. If you are uncomfertable with having your mouse on the couch here is a handheld one. Also this is a pretty cheap wireless keyboard.

This is what I use to play FFXIV on my PS4. Like you, that's the only thing I use it for, and I didn't want to invest a ton of money. This rig works perfectly, and it sips battery power. I've had the batteries in mine for months. It was completely easy to set up an use.

I'm in a game of league right now, I'm not familiar with cuda, so I'll have to google what cards it's good with etc

Edit: Okay so pretty much every nvidia card has cuda. The 270x is a lot better than the 750ti for gaming. But the 750ti can still play older games on ultra at 1080p. But for future games don't expect much.

Edit 2: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor | $242.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard | ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard | $72.98 @ Newegg
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $139.99 @ NCIX US
Storage | Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $61.98 @ OutletPC
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $51.85 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card | $139.99 @ Newegg
Case | Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case | $59.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $24.99 @ Newegg
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) | $89.98 @ OutletPC
Other| AOC E2260SWDN| $109.99
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $994.73
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-24 03:06 EST-0500 |

I changed up some stuff, I highly recommend Windows 8.1. I hate the layout but there are programs you can download to make it look like 7. It's $30 after rebates but I added a ssd, to speed up your OS, and some of your programs. If it's too expensive you can just take it out.

Edit 3: [Lol I forgot about the mouse and the keyboard, this is a really cheap one, let me know if you want something better.]
(http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Combo-MK270-Keyboard/dp/B00BP5KOPA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1419408647&sr=8-3&keywords=logitech+mk) In order to meet the budget you're gonna have to drop the ssd.

okay, i was exaggerating, but you can get this combo fro $14 and there are cheaper options

opinions on this vs https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-MK270-Wireless-Keyboard-Mouse/dp/B00BP5KOPA/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1480379528&sr=1-3&keywords=wireless+keyboard+and+mouse??

im also going to order a long hdmi cable with it. does it matter if the hdmi cable is rated cl 3? is there a difference?

[PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jR3THB)

​

Type|Item|Price

:----|:----|:----

**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RkJtt6/amd-ryzen-3-2200g-35ghz-quad-core-processor-yd2200c5fbbox) | $78.88 @ OutletPC

**Motherboard** | [MSI B450 Gaming Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3YhKHx/msi-b450-gaming-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-gaming-plus) | $96.89 @ OutletPC

**Memory** | [G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YzNypg/gskill-memory-f42666c15d8gvr) | $36.99 @ Newegg

**Storage** | [Crucial BX500 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8R66Mp/crucial-bx500-480gb-25-solid-state-drive-ct480bx500ssd1) | $54.95 @ Amazon

**Video Card** | [XFX Radeon RX 570 4 GB RS XXX Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tF648d/xfx-radeon-rx-570-4gb-rs-xxx-video-card-rx-570p427d6) | $129.99 @ Amazon

**Case** | [Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZHmxFT/fractal-design-focus-g-black-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-ca-focus-bk-w) | $55.88 @ Amazon

**Power Supply** | [Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q7L7YJ/corsair-cx-2017-450w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020120-na) | $53.88 @ OutletPC

**Monitor** | [Acer G226HQLBbd 21.5" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7cw323/acer-monitor-umwg6aab01) | $89.99 @ Amazon

| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |

| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $622.45

| Mail-in rebates | -$25.00

| **Total** | **$597.45**

| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2019-10-20 17:21 EDT-0400 |

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KB&M (as PCPartPicker doesn't list it for some reason): https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-MK270-Wireless-Keyboard-Mouse/dp/B00BP5KOPA?th=1

I was looking at a wireless keyboard and mouse. Something like this http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BP5KOPA/?tag=pcpapi-20

Dont use this keyboard for LoL, it is to small, try a different one: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Combo-MK270-Keyboard/dp/B00BP5KOPA/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1451474440&sr=1-2&keywords=keyboard

Pair it with a [Logitech MK270] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00BP5KOPA/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1492780507&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=wireless+keyboard+and+mouse&dpPl=1&dpID=41uf%2B7WmtSL&ref=plSrch) (or whatever your preference for wireless KB&M is) and the only cables you'll need to travel with are the power cable and a HDMI cable.

That's fair. Except if your already gaming on a console you can just use your TV as a monitor. Plus M&k combos are pretty cheap. Sure it's not the best M&K but you can use those while you save up.

Mouse and keyboard.

Other mouse.

Both are very cheap and I'm not particularly attached to them...

I use this

http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ

Not red, but cheap!

Somebody posted this set earlier. It has good reviews and comes with a 2 year warranty.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823129030

Same price on amazon with prime for free fast shipping if you have it.

http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Keyboard-Edition/dp/B00DKXXAAQ

just a quick glance led me to this http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ?ie=UTF8&keywords=gaming%20keyboard&qid=1465276010&ref_=sr_1_9&s=pc&sr=1-9 in your price range.

at least a reputable brand and a mouse to boot.

Cooler Master Devastator - LED Gaming Keyboard and Mouse Combo Bundle (Blue Edition) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_x45KxbPJCW5AV

A wild 1440p build appeared! Peasants scramble into thier huts at the sight of it!



PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor | $229.96 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler | $29.98 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | Asus H87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard | $109.49 @ Newegg
Memory | A-Data XPG V2 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $68.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $48.00 @ Amazon
Video Card | Zotac GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card | $491.98 @ SuperBiiz
Case | BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case | $39.99 @ NCIX US
Power Supply | Thermaltake SMART 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $54.99 @ Microcenter
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | $1073.38
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-04 14:54 EST-0500 |

[$300 on ebay 1440p monitor]
(http://www.amazon.com/QNIX-QX2710-Evolution-LED-Monitor/dp/B00BUI44US)

$30 gaming KB/M combo from cooler master


Same build can be cut down to a 1080p/gtx 770 build and youll save $500. I recommend 1440p for ultimate badassery though

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor | $117.76 @ Amazon
Motherboard | Asus H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $51.98 @ Newegg
Memory | Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory | $29.98 @ Newegg
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $49.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | MSI GeForce GTX 950 2GB Video Card | $114.99 @ Newegg
Case | Zalman T2 Plus MicroATX Mini Tower Case | $29.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply | EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $39.99 @ Amazon
Monitor | AOC i2369V 23.0" 60Hz Monitor | $99.99 @ Best Buy
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $549.67
| Mail-in rebates | -$15.00
| Total | $534.67
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-10 10:38 EDT-0400 |

for keyboard & mouse. if yours really aren't any good you could look into cheap combo like this for now: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ?ie=UTF8&tag=pcpapi-20

If you do decide that you want to go with a used card the only place I would suggest throwing that money is into a better processor. The performance jump wouldn't be as big of a jump as throwing it into a graphics card though. That extra 100 into graphics is a huge jump.

All that being said, don't forget how important peripherals are.

You're spending so much for a pc, but the tools you use for input are relatively cheap. I'd say get a gaming mouse and maybe a mechanical keyboard. You probably wont get both of those for $100, but you can definitely do better. The difference between what you chose and even something like this is drastic.

Thank you for your input.

The reasoning behind the keyboard is I tend to be a bit heavy handed and have messed up my fair share of keyboards. The logitech was the cheapest mechanical I found, and from what I understand they tend to be a bit more durable than normal keyboards.
Edit. found this cheaper keyboard, anyone used it before? http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Keyboard-Edition/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409768860&sr=8-1&keywords=mechanical+keyboard

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD 5350 2.05Ghz Quad-Core Processor | $59.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard | ASRock AM1H-ITX Mini ITX AM1 Motherboard | $58.99 @ Newegg
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $83.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $57.98 @ OutletPC
Video Card | Sapphire Radeon R7 240 2GB Video Card | $75.98 @ Newegg
Case | Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case | $34.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $24.99 @ Newegg
Optical Drive | Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer | $16.97 @ OutletPC
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $402.88
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-01 17:44 EDT-0400 |

This should be able to max out League of Legends, I do not know about Dota because I don't play it. It should also be fine with any game you throw at it really. You can take the price down by getting a lower Watt PSU if you want, or you can go with 4GB's of ram instead of 8. I also went with a CM Elite 130 because it has USB 3 support and you said you would like your case to be smaller, also, you won't be able to really do much photo editing(assuming you will be using programs such as photoshop) I think the lowest end CPU you would want for that is the Athlon X4 760k. Also, you should try and confirm with someone if the Video Card will fit into this case. I hope this helps you into building a PC!

(This is if you can reuse your HDD and Ram)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor | $89.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard | ASRock FM2A88X-ITX+ Mini ITX FM2+ Motherboard | $98.99 @ Newegg
Video Card | Sapphire Radeon R7 240 2GB Video Card | $75.98 @ Newegg
Case | Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case | $34.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $24.99 @ Newegg
Optical Drive | Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer | $16.97 @ OutletPC
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $323.91
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-01 17:51 EDT-0400 |


Edit: Forgot the keyboard, here is a link to the one I would recommend for this price http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1406930105&sr=1-1&keywords=cm+storm+devastator It is only $30 and it comes with a mouse.

CM Storm Devastator - LED Gaming Keyboard and Mouse Combo Bundle (Blue Edition) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_AsP.tb1XEPTV6


Here's one I'm looking at


Razer DeathStalker Expert Gaming Keyboard https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009SJR28W/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_2tP.tb1R9ZEHD


The other one

Hey i had a look at this one and it looks AWESOME! i'm thinking about getting all these parts.
Second: is available in Australia?
Third: is it really necessary to get this video card?
And last i got a monitor from my friend and looking at This key board and mouse what do you recommend?
Thanks in advance.

• Frame : [Playseat Challenge] (http://www.amazon.com/Playseat-Challenge-playstation-4/dp/B009ZELZDS) - $250
  
  
• Wheel/shifter/pedals - [Logitech G27] (http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-941-000045-G27-Racing-Wheel/dp/B001NT9TK4/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1409082291&sr=1-1&keywords=logitech+g27) - $225
  
  
• Keyboard/Mouse - [CM Storm Devastator] (http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1409082387&sr=1-1&keywords=keyboard+mouse+combo) - $30
  
  Total : $505
  
  You may not get the HOTAS with it, but for $500 you can get pretty close to OPs setup. Not as fancy, but definitely plenty good enough for a highly immersive VR experience. ;)

Price is too low for mechanical. The cheapest option that I would go is this.

I usually recommend this CM Devastator bundle. Comes with red or blue backlights.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LZVP71A/?tag=pcpapi-20

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/?tag=pcpapi-20

It's cheap, but it's designed for gaming and will tide you over till you can get a good mechanical keyboard and a nice mouse.

[These]
(http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1405572306&sr=8-1&keywords=cm+storm) may not be the best, but they are very nice and affordable

I've seen the CM Storm Devastator Bundle recommended several times on here.

You can get this bad boy i got it about a week ago and i highly recommend it.

I created a separate topic, but I'm posting here as well.

Hello!

I am looking to get a fairly okay mouse and keyboard set for my first PC build. My budget is around 40€ for the set, so a mechanical keyboard is probably out of the question. I've been looking at the Cooler Master Devastator combo, but some negative reviews about the mouse wheel getting squeaky within a month turned me away from that. I was also looking at the Thermaltake Commander combo, which seems decent, although the 'gamer' aesthetic is what I dislike a bit about that.

Maybe it would be reasonable to go for separate products and not a kb+m combo, but the selection is just so damn wide that I have trouble choosing anything, especially since you can't touch stuff and see how they feel in your hands over the internet.

So, can anybody recommend me a decent combo or two separate products for about 40€? Thanks in advance!

1.) I'm on a bit of a budget, and I saw the deal about the XFX R9 290X that comes with a lifetime warranty. I currently use a Radeon HD 7870 card, and while it's served me just fine for the past year, with the upcoming next-gen games, I was considering an upgrade.

But since I'm on a budget, would you guys recommend getting the price dropped R9 290X, or just stick to my 7870 for now? What I'm worried about is an offer like this disappearing, and/or my 7870 not being able to run the latest games at the highest settings with decent FPS.

2.) When it comes to gaming mice, I am not too anal about sensitivity or DPI a lot. The only game I play competitively is League of Legends, not CS:GO, so what do you guys think about this bundle? Is it worth it for someone on a budget like me? I've been currently operating with a measly non-gaming mice, which has served me okay, but it's time for an actual gaming mouse.

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ they're fairly bright. decent keyboard would recommend

Fantastic mouse:

http://www.amazon.com/E-3lue-E-Blue-2-4GHz-Wireless-Optical/dp/B00DPC015E/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1419836317&sr=1-6&keywords=mouse

Fantastic keyboard:

http://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Karura-Keyboard-Switchable-Backlight/dp/B00LSGKEC4/ref=sr_1_9?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1419836351&sr=1-9&keywords=keyboard


Heres a good combo if you want it:

http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1419836351&sr=1-5&keywords=keyboard

I did not think of that, valid point but you can get some cheap bundles. Even so it would cost you extra.

http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1418439005&sr=1-1&keywords=cm+storm+devastator

Cooler Master Devastator Combo

Had my Razer Abyssus which I admit is one of their cheapest (think I spent... $40 on it? can't remember) and it lasted roughly 3 years.

The scroll wheel ended up breaking completely one day while using it but everything else still works. Just can't use a mouse without a scroll wheel.

I went ahead and bought this to use until I get around to buying both a mouse and keyboard that are high quality.

Keyboard & Mouse $30

Mouse comes with mouse 4&5 and changeable DPI. The keyboard looks solid and has good reviews too.


Case has solid reviews, a USB 3.0 port, has 7 expansion slots (2 SSD and 5 HDD)(so you can upgrade later), 3 fans (1 top, 1 rear, 1 front) and looks sik as.

It's also $50

This comes to a total of $80

Just looked it up, and read some stuff. You're right; it wasn't mechanical. :P

Here's the link, though, for anyone interested:

http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Keyboard-Edition/dp/B00DKXXAAQ

Still a damn nice keyboard, and the tactility is damn good for 30 USD.

For cheap gaming Keyboard/Mice while you save up: Look at the CmStorm Devastator

The LAN Arcade a mile from my place uses these. They're comfy. Especially for the cost.


As for monitors, if you have a 1080p TV lying around, you can use the HDMI output for that.

CM Storm?

What do you mean by don't burn it out rendering anything? Well the End All build would last you a bit longer since it has overclocking capabilities for the CPU. Though you'd have to save up for a monitor (I'd suggest a Free Sync monitor) plus the Keyboard/Mouse Combo.

Check out the Cooler Master. I know it's a bundle, but I'm fairly certain you can get it without the mouse.

TL;DR won't make you game better (debatable) but feels smoother and will make you never want to use regular keyboards.

The feel from a mechanical and non is extremely different. Not even just for gaming but for typing and everyday use. Trust me, once you've used a mechanical keyboard regular keyboards will seem dumb and you'll find them hard to use or you'll just think they are dumb.

This was the first keyboard that was mechanical like that I bought (It's not 100% mechanical but it has the feel) and the difference from a non gamer experience wasn't much different. At first I couldn't see the hype and felt dumb for spending the money to buy it. Not even a month later I used a regular keyboard at work and it felt horrible. It didn't feel as responsive as the CM Storm even though it was but it just felt wrong.

This Is the build that I will be using in a bit.
It may also work for you.
Edit: Forgot the Keyboard and Mouse
Keyboard: [CM Storm Devastator] (http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Keyboard-Edition/dp/B00DKXXAAQ#customerReviews)

Mouse: [Razer Abyssus] (http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Abyssus-Optical-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B002XLR0JI)
Good Luck!

http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422327115&sr=8-1&keywords=cmstorm+devastator+keyboard

Just a CM Storm Devastator keyboard. It was part of a combo, but the mouse sucked.... So I got a Razer DeathAdder. Eventually I'd like to get a Corsair K70, but I like this keyboard fine, especially for the price.

http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394907863&sr=8-1&keywords=cm+storm+devastator
good quality low price :)

http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Keyboard-Edition/dp/B00DKXXAAQ

http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1425997216&sr=8-1&keywords=mechanical+keyboard

Thoughts? I'm totally ok with combo sets

Maybe it's simply broken? Also the Amazon page mentions it only supports Windows.

> I understand that you have to have access to "ScrollLock" but for some reason all it does is turn my brightness down.

I don't understand what you mean by that.

I would recomend this keyboard/ mouse set up over the one you have selected. Its a bit more money but definitely worth it. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Changed just a couple things, motherboard and memory.

The i5 should be alright with the 970, though it's definitely on the verge of bottlenecking.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor | $169.98 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard | ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard | $50.59 @ SuperBiiz
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $54.99 @ Newegg
Storage | PNY Optima 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $89.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $49.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card | $334.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case | Azza SIRIUS ATX Mid Tower Case | $39.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply | $34.98 @ NCIX US
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) | $84.15 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fan | Aerocool DS 140mm Blue 93.4 CFM 140mm Fan | $11.85 @ NCIX US
Keyboard | Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse | $29.95 @ Amazon
Headphones | Logitech G230 Headset | $34.99 @ Amazon
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $986.44
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-27 18:15 EST-0500 |

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1418163040&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX200_QL40 This shows up when in search for mechanical keyboards on Amazon. Is it one?

If you don't care about the color, this case is unusually cheap right now, so I would recommend that you get that.

For the keyboard, this keyboard and mouse combo is amazing for the price. It's not actually a mech keyboard though - if you really want one, I'd recommend you go over to /r/MechanicalKeyboards and search around there a little bit for something cheap.

Yep, it's essentially this: Mini Wireless Keyboard with Mouse

I have six of these units and they work very well, even with the USB power issue.

http://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Mouse-Touchpad-Black/dp/B00I5SW8MC/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1406256346&sr=8-8&keywords=wireless+keyboard

> http://www.amazon.com/Mini-Wireless-Keyboard-Mouse-Touchpad-Black/dp/B00I5SW8MC/

I use this. It works great with my Mac Mini.

Not sure if you can use this with a Mac, but this is what I use with my Windows 8 HTPC to do browser stuff, like netflix.
http://www.amazon.com/Mini-Wireless-Keyboard-Mouse-Touchpad-Black/dp/B00I5SW8MC/

I use something like this not this exact one though mine is older. http://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Mouse-Touchpad-Black/dp/B00I5SW8MC/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1393633742&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=Rii+keyboard

I mostly use the plex app from my tablet as a remote its a much nicer experience

The Amazon Fire TV is great and very high quality for only $99. If you have amazon prime, you can use it to watch some "free" shows/movies, or simply download the Netflix or Hulu app.

It doesn't have a full qwerty keyboard, but is compatible with any keyboard, including bluetooth ones such as this or this one which is only $15.

The best part is that it is supported by Amazon, which has some of the best customer support around. I don't know what the prices are in the UK, but it seems like it'd fall within your budget.

I'd like to figure out how to use a Raspberry Pi to run my local fire company's program called IAmResponding. Basically I can just use a website to display everything that I need, so that's my base. I'd like to make it so that every time the device is turned on, it'll go to the IAR website and log in on startup. On top of that, I'd like to make sure I can do all of that before I buy all the necessary things in order to do it.

So what I need is a Raspberry Pi, programming, some sort of input device (I'm thinking of buying one of those mini keyboards with the touchpad thing next to it) and a way to connect to wi-fi.

Right now we're using a smart TV, but it's total crap. It'll only run IAR for about 12 hours before it stops responding.

There ya go friend!

Rii Mini Wireless 2.4GHz... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I5SW8MC?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

I've got the previous version of the Logitech K400 that fits neatly in my bag and is a reasonable keyboard for setting things up. I've tried the mini-keyboards like the Rii but they're a bit of a pain to work with if you're trying to do a lot of configuration work. Especially if you're a vi user.

It's a really good question actually. With a RPi build, I have a little wireless keyboard that I use when nothing else is working (or ready). It comes in super handy when you first start setting an RPi up or if the device has a bit of a jam. For normal operations, I run headless like you saw, and just VNC into the machine for updates and changes (or SSH). Below is a link to the one I have for ref

https://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Lightweight-Controller/dp/B00I5SW8MC/

I just picked up this little guy about a week ago. It definitely beats having a full-size wireless keyboard on my coffee table; I chose it specifically because I wanted something the size of a TV remote. It's worthless for gaming though, best for HTPC use.

I've been very happy with this little guy. The USB dongle works perfectly with my Pi.

There were a few programs that forced me to go to my host computer to get past the launcher. I just hooked up my mini wireless keyboard directly to the link to avoid the issue. Pretty sure you could just use a wireless mouse if you have one lying around. Before I had the link, I hooked up my laptop to the TV and used the wireless keyboard to navigate stuff. So far it looks like the steam link can replace my laptop entirely for streaming non-steam stuff.

As far as games hiding the launcher, I've only run into an issue when trying to launch Mass Effect. I've read launching that in windowed mode can fix the issue.

I don't think there's anything wireless like that, but that sounds like it would be awful to use unless you've got god-tier oldschool nokia skills.

Why not something hand-sized like this? (disclaimer, I have a small Rii keyboard like that and the wireless connectivity is pretty shitty, so you might want to shop around)

Non-mobile: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I5SW8MC/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1425664843&sr=8-1&keywords=raspberry+keyboard&dpPl=1&dpID=4123wz7vjDL&ref=plSrch&pi=AC_SY200_QL40

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I love this thing. Works great on my raspberry pi. I'm getting a mini PC with a full desktop install because this keyboard/ mouse combo is great to use.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00I5SW8MC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have something similar that i use on my raspberry pi. It works from 10 feet across the room with no issues. Its this one http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I5SW8MC/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_i5?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1V63TAYDMQSF89GZBEKY&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846

Thank you. I was looking at those and just wanted to be sure. I have never used a cable like that for anything before. BTW, do you know if wireless keyboards, mice will work out of the box? I am considering ordering this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I5SW8MC

Sorry, I am really new at this.

I have this and it works fine. The tv doesn't control anything, just shows the picture when changed to the correct input.

Here is the mobile version of your link

Hi u/lissabeth777,

I've temporarily removed your post because it contains something that looks like it might be a referral link. Particularly, the link you provided to the USB remote contains "ref=s9_acsd_al_bw_c_x_3_w" at the end.

If you are willing to remove this ending (and just link to https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I5SW8MC), I would be happy to reapprove your post. Just reply to this message once you have done so.

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Btw, this cheap mini keyboard might also be a solution, lol. I haven't used it, but I can see it being very useful for art as well as other things.

I haven't really been looking into peripherals like that, as I was going to experiment with setting up some xbox360 controllers to do most everything for me. Perhaps something like this? It's not a name brand but it seems to get pretty good reviews overall.

You can control this setup with any standard IR remote. The hardware has a IR sensor and is pre-programed with xbox media center IR commands. So if you get a XBox Media Center ready remote or Harmony you're good too go.

So you can get a cheap $10 remote or $$ remote or even use a bluetooth keyboard...

As far as "Wife Proofing" what I did was this.. Buy this remote..
http://www.amazon.com/Fobis-Technologies-WE-10-Weemote-Control/dp/B0010S8G2A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1416646314&sr=8-1&keywords=weemote+digital

SHE LOVES IT... jokes about how I had to get her a special remote with her friends..

It's a learning remote so you have to have a harmony to program this kiddie remote.. but I made the green button TV Power, Read Vol Down, Orange Vol Up and rocker standard and the "M" the back button. No insults to all the wifes out there, I'm sure many can use those $$ remotes but mine loves this little 5 button remote with the plex setup. The only thing she don't like is she can't fwd cuz I have the buttons programed as next chapter. But she can turn on the TV and so can the little ones. While I use this remote..

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Harmony-Ultimate-Customizable-915-000224/dp/B00IAKLM54/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1416646457&sr=8-3&keywords=harmony+remote

However if you're not ready for that you can do what I originally which was this..

1st I bought this..
http://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Touchpad-Keyboard-Android/dp/B00JO80LUI/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1416646515&sr=8-11&keywords=wireless+bluetooth+keyboard

Worked great.. but was RF so once I closed the av cabinet door it stoped working.. so this frustrated me so then I bought this.. which worked over the built in blue tooth..
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Keyboard-Built-In-Multi-Touch/dp/B005DKZTMG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1416646515&sr=8-2&keywords=wireless+bluetooth+keyboard

Then when I had to program the wifes / kiddie remote cuz she complained about the keyboard because the kids would leave it turned on and it woudl be always be dead when she went to grab it so I used that as an excuse to buy the remote I really wanted which was the big harmony IR remote here..

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Harmony-Ultimate-Customizable-915-000224/dp/B00IAKLM54/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1416646457&sr=8-3&keywords=harmony+remote

I told her I needed it to program the kiddie remote.. but really you can use any xbox media remote do that... I just needed an excuse to get approval from the wife to spend $200 on a remote ;-)

They have a budget version of it which is on sale.

http://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Touchpad-Keyboard-Android/dp/B00JO80LUI/

Can't vouch for it one way or the other. Plenty of reviews though.

I do big picture, but also have one of these

http://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Touchpad-Keyboard-Android/dp/B00JO80LUI/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&qid=1418959772&sr=8-19&keywords=wireless+mouse+and+keyboard+combo&pebp=1418959777768

It's compact and lets me do whatever I need to do in a pinch.

I also use the TV as a second display, and can kill either display as needed, but rarely have to.

I have this keyboard. Use it in the living room. It's not terrible, but I find that it tends to click on stuff I didn't mean to click on, no matter how delicate I am with the touch pad. Maybe it's just mine but it's super annoying. For another room I decided to take a chance on [this] (http://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wirelesss-Touchpad-Keyboard-Android/dp/B00JO80LUI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1426788882&sr=8-1&keywords=rii+keyboard) and was surprised to find that it worked much, much better. I'm not saying don't go with the Logitech, but if you want to try something cheaper... Plus you can charge it via USB (no more batteries) and it has two options for mouse buttons (right and left) which I find are easier to use.

I have one of the mini wireless keyboards and it works on my Chromebook they are cheap and may work for what you want.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JO80LUI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Is there any reason this wouldn't work? (Sorry, mobile link)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00JO80LUI/ref=s9_simh_gw_d0_g147_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=mobile-1&pf_rd_r=1SHVYQXSF6MTZQJQYQ3C&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=1824974342&pf_rd_i=mobile

Other dude mentioned some remote options, you can also use a flirc remote dongle and control it with a Logitech harmony, also a little mini USB keyboard like this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JO80LUI?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

For a rubber-dome keyboard, probably something like http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Keyboard-Edition/dp/B00LZVP71A

You really should explain what game you're playing though. If you do twitching then you probably need to learn not to twitch.

The mouse is a bit shit, otherwise I'm surprised you could piece together a system like this for under 400$.

This is said to be pretty good value, mind its a KB+Mouse combination so you can drop your current keyboard from the list and just get this bundle. Mouse has more flexibility in DPI depending on what kind of playstyle do you want and the sensor is probably better as well.

[Here you go!] (http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Keyboard-Edition/dp/B00LZVP71A)

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LZVP71A/?tag=pcpapi-20

This one

http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Keyboard-Edition/dp/B00LZVP71A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1416666891&sr=8-1&keywords=CM+storm+devastator

the storm devastator bundle is pretty much the only thing that fits the bill, and it's pretty well-rated so it should serve you well

CM Storm Devastator combo (membrane) - $30

A solid wireless logitech membrane - $25

Inexpensive offbrand AULA mechanical using Kailh Blues, a chinese knockoff of cherry MX's -$40

A rosewill keyboard with ALPS switches, clicky :3 $50

Nice backlit Perixx board with Cherry MX blues. $80

Much past that and you're getting into name brand mechanicals that are fantastic, but expensive. These are just some decent keyboards for their respective prices.

edit: fixed formatting

Something like this do the trick for now?

http://www.amazon.ca/Cooler-Master-Devastator-Led-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00LZVP71A/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1417417970&sr=8-5&keywords=mouse+and+keyboard

What I Have

The Corsair K30 is pretty solid for around $50. If that's too much (or you still need a mouse as well) this Cooler Master set gets used a lot in budget builds and should fare decently.

Cheaper 970 (cheaper then the 390) http://www.amazon.com.mx/gp/aw/d/B00NNXVPS2

Cheaper PSU don't need that much wattage http://www.amazon.com.mx/gp/aw/d/B00K85X23O/

Edit: CM Storm not a bad budget keyboard+mouse (but mouse is pretty much a paper weight recommend changing asap) http://www.amazon.com.mx/gp/aw/d/B00LZVP71A/

http://amzn.com/B00LZVP71A
That fits in perfectly for his budget. Probably the best deal you could find with $30. The CM Storm Devastator - LED Gaming Keyboard and Mouse Combo Bundle (Red Edition)

This one is working well for me, though I haven't had it long.

http://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Rechargable-Raspberry/dp/B00WQG6A8C

I had another Rii that was garbage, but no problems yet with this one.

No like this one

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https://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Touchpad-Rechargable/dp/B00WQG6A8C/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1536634867&sr=1-6&keywords=rii

eBay always worked for me. Exchange sucks but breaking it down you basically pay

$100+any tax USD for the box, they MSRP $99USD.

$15USD for seller to pickup, list/email/manage, package

$13-15USD eBay and paypal fees (13% now IIRC)

$20 USD shipping

$25USD import.

Thats about $173USD which works out to about $231CAD. Honestly the nVidia shield was $212 CAD last I checked in Feb and spec-wise is much better than FTV4K, plus its available in Canada and works here easily.

If you don't need 4K support and can deal with somewhat buggy or 'hacky' software (not ideal but functional) the ones out of china on amazon are at least functional android boxes with about the same spec and power as the original FireTV. Just get a Rii i8+ backlit keyboard/mouse combo for $25. The remotes they ship with great to throw at stuff, not much else.

Hope this helps. The other way is to find someone travelling who will bring one home or up when they come at MSRP. I looked into reshipping services and they weren't worth it.

I use a wireless one I got on Amazon Nothing too crazy but I keep it next to my sofa if I want to use chat instead of voice.

Thanks for your response! That might work! I wouldn't be opposed to a small keyboard/mouse like this so long as the interface is meant to be viewed like a TV

I find the i8 wireless mini keyboards work best.

like this one: https://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Compatible-Raspberry/dp/B00WQG6A8C/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=wireless+mini+keyboard&qid=1558450063&s=gateway&sr=8-3

I use a VNC (RealVNC). Not the most elegant but useful.

I use it with my RaspberryPi that attached to my network and decided to try with my PC when the old Netflix machine (Xbox) wasn't working.

Edit: I also used this for a while but it seemed to stop working after awhile. I think it's from one too many drops.

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I got this one for Christmas and I highly recommend it. I love it. Very useful https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00WQG6A8C/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483020093&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=rii+mini+wireless+keyboard&dpPl=1&dpID=51Df3J%2BfKlL&ref=plSrch

I've got something similar from Alibaba/Aliexpress. Mine's got an extra row of dedicated function keys. Note they don't have a stop key, record key or windows media centre key. I remapped those onto the mail button, media player button and home button using autohotkey.

mine looks like this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Rechargable-Battery-Black/dp/B00Z81U3YY/ref=pd_sim_421_12?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00Z81U3YY&pd_rd_r=3722NAJZ2M278TJHKC9A&pd_rd_w=cciwy&pd_rd_wg=NH0Tw&psc=1&refRID=3722NAJZ2M278TJHKC9A

Similar Keyboard from Amazon

Also if your have android you can use the Chrome Remote Desktop app and save a little money.

With the Raspberry Pi you can install Kodi onto it which is a media player with a TV interface. You could also just install Raspbian, which is just like a normal desktop interface. I suggest getting a Rii which is a little handheld keyboard and trackpad.

You could try getting an HTPC keyboard like [this one] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Z81U3YY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_phUuxb7WRHKWW)

I use it and it works just fine. Very portable and cheap.

I have an Nvidia Shield TV (not pro) with a 1.5tb external usb3 hard drive formatted as internal storage. I emulate
Atari 2600, 5200, 7800
NES
Master system
Turbo Graphics 16 / PC Engine
SNES
Genesis/Mega Drive
Neo Geo
N64
PS1
Saturn
Dreamcast
Dos Box
Gamecube - With patched files
Wii - With patched files
PSP
Gameboy Color
Gameboy Advanced

PS/2 games streamed from PC
Stream All PC games

Not sure about Launch Box or Big Box but there is something called Retrobox which works extremely well
http://retroboxtv.com/

I would also recommend getting one of these wireless keyboard controllers as it comes in handy for DOS BOX and Mouse cursor.

https://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Touchpad-Rechargable/dp/B00Z81U3YY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498831121&sr=8-1&keywords=rii+mini+wireless+keyboard

Then I downloaded an FTP server to the shield and I FTP the files over when I want to copy them over.

This helped for the Dolphin Emulator also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8ExZ_Irz2Q

If it doesn't have to be bluetooth

https://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Touchpad-Raspberry/dp/B00Z81U3YY

I have one of these and it's awesome.

If you do need bluetooth...well then get what you want you smurf eater.

My friend shares his plex server with me and I use a Rpi with RasPlex on it. It seems to work fine over the internet. Every once in a while it will hiccup and I have to power cycle the Rpi but it doesn't happen often. I also use one of these as a media controller--> http://www.amazon.com/Rii-i8-Wireless-Rechargable-Raspberry/dp/B00Z81U3YY/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1451005739&sr=1-1&keywords=Rii+i8%2B+2.4+GHz+Wireless+Keyboard+with+Touchpad+Mouse+-+Black. It doesn't have any mouse or touchpad support in RasPlex but it has basic navigation available.

EDIT: The Rpi model I have is the latest one, model 2 B and I use a Wi-Pi wireless adapter.

This is what I use, granted it's not a full size keyboard but it gets the job done.

https://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Rechargable-Battery-Black/dp/B00Z81U3YY

That is a similar design but I got one just like that but have shoulder bumpers and the build quality was much lower the keys were plastic vs a nice rubber and it was shitty connection after 10 feet

This is the one you want https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00Z81U3YY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491103265&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Rii+i8%2B

Oh and it comes in different colors if you don't like black

an android box allows you to control your device and the volume by using your included remote or an upgraded palm sized keyboard. They start at about $35 http://amzn.to/1mvDFKe and they work just like your android phone so you can install any streaming app that you want.. thats available on your phone from the Play Store or other Android Store.

here is a nicer device with more ram / storage and android 5.1
http://amzn.to/1meGgI6

and here is a nice Rii Keyboard that is about as big as your open hand.. a little smaller.. charges off your USB port.. http://amzn.to/1mvEbrL make sure the keyboard of this type says Rii on the mouse trackpad there are many fakes.. this one is backlit which is good in dark rooms .. they have non backlit ones for $16

Also this remote .. acts like a mouse and also has a microphone so you can control your device with speech commands or make phone calls http://amzn.to/1mvEN0l

do your research .. don't blame me for stuff you buy >:o)

From what I can tell from my research this is essentially the same device under a different brand name. Do you think this would be OK?
https://www.amazon.com/iPazzPort-Bluetooth-Wireless-Raspberry-KP-810-21SBL/dp/B015J6TEN8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1491101014&sr=1-1&keywords=ipazzport+bluetooth

Does it have to be motion control? My experience with them has been that they're awful to use. I find a touchpad works a lot better. Maybe you've a different use case than I do.

I use something like this. They can control volume just fine, but you'll need to make sure HDMI-CEC passthrough is enabled on the Shield, and whatever equipment you have for audio accepts CEC. I, personally, do not like CEC because it can often get confused and start turning off the wrong thing, stuff like that. I have older components though, so maybe it works better on newer stuff?

I used one of those controllers for Keyboard/Mouse struff. But I use a Harmony remote for most stuff. I don't need the keyboard/mouse all that frequently so it just sits on the end-table. The Harmony remote controls a Flirc that's plugged into the Shield. Between the Harmony Remote and the Flirc I can use the remote to do just about anything. It's really amazing. You can even macro multi-key commands, assign them to a specific key, you name it.

Harmony has some newer remote systems as well. They look like they could do just about anything, you might want to look into that.

Lastly, Google's Android TV Remote App has a touchpad to.

Again, if you really need motion control, I'm not sure. I've not had luck with those.

I think /u/NomBok has the best advice if you truly need clickers and the accel/gyro inside. I don't know of a 3rd party device that small.

If you're flexible, these Bluetooth keyboard/touchpads work great and fit inside the HoloLens case, replacing the foam circle. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015J6TEN8/

If you need smaller and just clicking, there are Bluetooth "presentation remotes" and "smart rings" that emulate mouse clicks, and maybe some mouse movements. We haven't looked at them.

Try this. I use it with the fire tv.

Bought one of these and using the touch pad, you can access all the functions of Amazon Prime. I've found that double tap seems to work like a single click.

Alright so the one I got is good but bad at the same time. I'm trading it out for a universal remote, mainly for the function of having a guide button. the one I got is the ipazzport controller like one:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015J6TEN8

It was easy to set up and use but the problems it had were double clicking sometimes, poor one handed use, and no guide button, which is a deal breaker for me. I've found out that the mi box has an ir receiver on it, so I'm going to be getting this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M4I1BAY

I personally wish it was a bit less old school controller look wise and had a QWERTY keyboard, but what can you do. I was torn between that one and this one, which I will get if the guide button doesn't end up working out:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CL3ZXGO

The other ones I read up on as basically being the dankest nugs are the harmony remotes, but I really can't justify that much money for a remote. Stuff like this has me wishing I would have just gotten a ps4 and gotten the PlayStation remote with it. I will make a new reply to you guys when I get and try out the new remote. Hope some of this has helped!

[Updated] FeBite MX3 Pro 2.4G Kodi Remote with Backlit Mini Wireless Keyboard Mouse Air Control for Android Smart TV Box IPTV HTPC Mini PC Compatible https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015O5UM6M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_b1scI4gcjTOn1

This is the one I bought and looks to be the same. It works really well. The air mouse is weird getting used to it but still works well.

Do you like the remote? I've been reading that people don't find it ideal for Android TV, especially with Vue. I've been expecting to purchase a more user-friendly third party remote like this: https://www.amazon.com/Updated-FeBite-Wireless-Keyboard-Compatible/dp/B015O5UM6M/ref=pd_cp_23_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B015O5UM6M&pd_rd_r=T7S6GBTXFJZ0MKH5G3GT&pd_rd_w=Z7q7B&pd_rd_wg=wChaQ&psc=1&refRID=T7S6GBTXFJZ0MKH5G3GT

Some of the 2015 models on Ebay get bundled with the new remote too.

These work really well:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015O5UM6M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_m0lBzbVF5YTAJ

I use a remote that has a curser option and that makes browsing and choosing a lot quicker. You point the remote at the screen and move the curser around. https://www.amazon.com/Updated-FeBite-Wireless-Keyboard-Compatible/dp/B015O5UM6M/ref=br_lf_m_st2czuab2zyw7b7_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&s=pc

I got mine on Amazon, which came from China anyway: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015O5UM6M/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

But the MX3 PRO you find on Ali all look exactly the same as mine.

The main selling point for the MiBox is the great price for a solid device AndroidTV device. If you are gonna play high resolution Android games then the Shield TV will be much better. If $100 (the price difference) isnt a big deal to you...get the Shield TV, its indeed the best thing available.


This remote has been solid for me. I even got a 2nd one for another box. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015O5UM6M/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I picked up https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015O5UM6M/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 for my Rapsberry PI it works great the gyro function is a bit off sometimes but it is easy and quick to calibrate

I got this for my old man and it was great for bridging the gap between his old receiver and nvidia. He needed some simple IR functionality, and this was incredibly easy to teach the bottom 4 colored buttons.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015O5UM6M/ref=psdcmw_1194464_t1_B077XX6488

I finally got around to testing this out. Using your example didn't work for me. I guess nVidia Shield Gamepad isn't seen as a remote and neither is the Fire TV Remote (gen 2).

Side Note: What a pain in the ass it is to re-upload custom keymaps, reload the keymap, and open up a video for testing. Fortunately I'm editing in Sublime Text, using Teamviewer to do the file transfer, added a shortcut to "reloadkeymaps" action on my menu, and used a TV recording.

Before I realized only certain keyname tags are only applicable to the particular sections, I tried using <gamepad> & <remote> like in this example:

<gamepad>
<back>Pause</back>
<browser_back>Pause</browser_back>
<backspace>Pause</backspace>
</gamepad>

None of those worked with my two devices. What eventually worked:

<keyboard>
<backspace>Pause</backspace>
</keyboard>

But only for my Fire TV Remote. So I had to do this for the Shield gamepad:

<joystick>
<button id="2">Pause</button>
</joystick>

However, what I really want is for it to PAUSE and GO BACK when I hit the back button or B button. Not just pause. And I don't see a way to combine two actions to one button press. I might play with creating my own scripts as mentioned here: https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=125859

So I just went with setting the backspace key to PreviousMenu and at that point I can hit play/pause on the Fire TV Remote. But for the nVidia Shield Gamepad, I had to also map the "Start" button. So I settled for this:

<joystick>
<button id="2">PreviousMenu</button>
<button id="8">Pause</button>
</joystick>

This turned out to be handy for reference: https://github.com/koying/SPMC/blob/spmc-jarvis/system/keymaps/joystick.xml.sample

Our differences could be something to do with me using the fork, SPMC 16.7.1.

There's probably a lot more I could do (that I can't think of at the moment) now that I've familiarized myself with keymaps so I'm glad I took the time to read through the wiki a bit and play around with them. Maybe someone else will benefit from what I've learned.

I'm pretty annoyed there isn't a decent remote out there with a keyboard on the back, voice input, IR learning, and air mouse (or better yet a trackball) that doesn't annihilate batteries. And maybe is WiFi or bluetooth instead of RF. I used this one for awhile but it tears through batteries at a ridiculous rate - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015O5UM6M/
I'd also get rid of the channel # keys on the front and add more IR learning keys. I opted for the back-lit version over the voice input version and ended up wishing I had the voice input more often than not. Not sure why these features are mutually exclusive.

In the end, I prefer the Fire TV gen 2 remote for it's compactness, voice input, and key layout. And my trackball keyboard if I really need to type a lot of things out.

Which devices are you using to control Kodi?

This is what I use. Works great for me.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GCPVZDW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_96JEDbWQV64YZ

Yes, the Mini Rii i8+

https://www.reddit.com/r/medicalschoolanki/comments/b1kxm7/new_friends_to_anki_with/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

I use it with my iPad, and it works well!

I know on the remote that came with my 'TV box' there is a button that gives you access to a mouse pointer, then you just use the directional buttons to get to where you want to go.

Also they have wireless/bluetooth keyboards that you can try.

https://www.amazon.com/Rii-FMKBTL1-IV1-Wireless-Bluetooth-Backlight/dp/B01GCPVZDW/ref=sr_1_33?keywords=bluetooth+keyboard&qid=1558728946&s=gateway&sr=8-33

Not bad, I will definitely consider that.

Another option is a BT Rii i8 compact keyboards. Like this one. Since I don't think I'll need the keyboard often. Just when searching in the App/Game stores, or typing a Username/Password or website URL.

Some other ideas:

mini bluetooth keyboard for mobile https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01GCPVZDW/ for the games that support kb (a lot do)

Gamepad for games like Space Grunts and Wazhack.

There's a lag on the app, and IR controllers through cec TV lag big time. I got a Bluetooth rii+ from amazon. It's awesome. Back-lit qwerty keyboard, TouchPad, and works like a normal remote too. 25 bucks or so. Make sure you get the Bluetooth one. I mistakenly bought the ir one first and it's 8 bucks to return it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01GCPVZDW/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487892839&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=rii+i8+bluetooth&dpPl=1&dpID=51PD4FJgqUL&ref=plSrch

Have you tried a different charger yet? I don't think I've ever used the shield itself to charge my controllers. I would say you may have a bad battery but since they sent you another and it has the same problem it seems unlikely. If you would like some really good advice i suggest you get one of these.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01GCPVZDW/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1506004884&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=rii+mini+wireless+keyboard+bluetooth&dpPl=1&dpID=51LyZmNzx1L&ref=plSrch

It's a game changer.

I would consider <$50 for both kb and mouse to be a fairly affordable price. Check out /r/mechanicalkeyboards for an entire list, but I have two Tomoko87 (aka mpow mechanical kb) keyboards and love them. Got one for $20 and one for $30-ish iirc. https://www.amazon.com/TOMOKO-Water-Resistant-Mechanical-Keyboard-Non-Conflicting/dp/B01DBJTZU2/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1519531778&sr=1-1&keywords=tomoko+87 And the larger version with a num pad can be had for $40-ish if you search hard enough. https://www.amazon.com/TOMOKO-Mechanical-Keyboard-Resistant-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01IHVN4GA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1519531805&sr=1-1&keywords=tomoko+104 They are blue switches which I love for gaming and typing, but it's all subjective. Go to bestbuy and test some out to see what type of switch you like the most.

As for mice, I personally love logitech. I've only owned 3 models because they simply have lasted forever and i've never had to replace them. I do have experience with those cheap $10 "gaming mice" and I will say they are better than a wireless mouse or non-gaming mouse. If you want to buy a decent KB and save up for a great mouse then you can find CyberpowerPC ripoff mice for like $12 just about anywhere and it will last you a while until you find the mouse you want. https://www.amazon.com/Programmable-EasySMX-V18-Non-slip-Computer/dp/B073CG5BPH/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519531619&sr=8-1&keywords=cyberpowerpc+mouse

In my biased opinion, this is my favorite cheap gaming mouse https://www.amazon.com/G203-Prodigy-Wired-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B01M26YUKO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1519531846&sr=8-3&keywords=logitech+gaming+mouse

Corsair/steelseries/etc. all make similar mice that are basically the same thing. I think of it as a kind of minimalist design. great for casual gaming. I am using the G502 just because i love heavy mice and I can save button shortcuts to the mouse itself so it works with my pc and mac...and rgb bro

Ahh ok so like a $30 Keyboard i can replace? I was looking at this one:
[here](http://www.TOMOKO.com/ Mechanical Gaming Keyboard, Water Resistant Gaming Keyboard with Blue Switch for Gamers, Anti-ghosting Keyboard (Black, 104 Key) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IHVN4GA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_kG26xbN0YZH1H). Thats just an idea but i will keep looking.

Also i know its the keyboard because the temporary keyboard i was using did work properly for the down arrow.

Can it be a driver? Like i said its my first mech so im not sure if they need drivers from the manufacturer.

They already have the full size ones, https://www.amazon.com/TOMOKO-Mechanical-Keyboard-Resistant-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01IHVN4GA/

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IHVN4GA
I have the TKL version of this at work. dead simple workhorse with outemu blues. Clicky. Does it's job, standard bottom row layout, so good candidate for keycap sets, too, unlike some popular boards you might see on hardwareswap. I like it a lot - it's cheap and very simple. If that doesn't meet your needs, no problem - just trying to be helpful! Good luck with your buy. :)

I believe it is this one here.

Which should I get?

https://www.amazon.com/TOMOKO-Mechanical-Keyboard-Resistant-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01IHVN4GA?th=1


Or


https://www.amazon.com/DREVO-Tyrfing-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B01N4A2IGN

I'm going from having this: [Garbage] which has gateron blues. I really don't like they switches because they have a lot of variance. But, I don't know how $$$ much is appropriate to replace it with. I replaced the keycaps because of how garbage the original ones felt. I prefer a harder switch to press, as I came from a high end rubber dome that needed a surprising amount of force (about double what these seems to have). But, I love the feeling of the mechanical keys. I am thinking about joining the massdrop for the Pok3r RGB because it seems like a robust keyboard that doesn't have considerable problems. But, I really don't know. Any suggestions?

My only note is I'm thinking about cherry mx blacks, and I would love to keep it sub 150USD.

I couldn't find many good RGB-backlit keyboards under $90, but these two are from decent brands and have zoned RGB.

Corsair K55: https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Gaming-K55-Keyboard-Backlit/dp/B01M4LIKLI/

Cooler Master Masterkeys Lite L: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Mem-chanical-SGB-3040-KKMF1-US/dp/B01KBXKMM6/

You probably aren't going to find mechanical rgb for $60. The CM Devastator II comes in rgb though.

Any idea what why the Combo is so much cheaper than just the keyboard by itself?

https://www.amazon.com/MasterKeys-Intelligent-CHERRY-Brown-Switches/dp/B01D3BDN60/ref=sr_1_1/162-5837097-6448951?ie=UTF8&qid=1474640553&sr=8-1&keywords=coolermaster+master+keys

https://www.amazon.com/MasterKeys-Keyboard-Mem-chanical-Switches-Brilliant/dp/B01KBXKMM6/ref=sr_1_2/162-5837097-6448951?ie=UTF8&qid=1474640553&sr=8-2&keywords=coolermaster+master+keys

I gave up Logitech years ago after consistently shitty, failing garbage components. Maybe give something a shot from CM (Cooler Master)? Hold on I'll grab a link to something...

Edit: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KBXKMM6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_g5f5ybKVHED47

No problem, here's my profile: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198132578610/

On the subject of keyboards, I'd recommend a decent membrane keyboard for fighting games, so that you get that smooth motion when mastering inputs. Mechanical's great too, but can be costly, and won't feel as smooth when performing motions such as quarter-circles.


The Logitech G213 (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071WR2JYQ/ref=dp_cr_wdg_tit_rfb) is a good example of a great membrane keyboard that will last, which is $39.99 Certified Refurbished on Amazon US (probably not your region, but it's the most common here, so it might be of use). The Cooler Master Masterkeys Lite L Combo (https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Mem-chanical-SGB-3040-KKMF1-US/dp/B01KBXKMM6) is great as well from my research, but it's slightly more expensive due to an obligatory, average mouse that's thrown in with it.

All this said, you will undoubtedly have to do your own research on specific keyboards in your area, as I could not find any results for the keyboards you mentioned. You should be able to find something by a well-known manufacturer for around the 40 US Dollar mark, so keep searching. You'll most likely be able to manage well with your Microsoft keyboard for now, though for reliability, you may need something better. For reference, I did pretty okay on my 20 year old DELL keyboard I used to type these messages, so you'll probably be fine!

EDIT: Added links to examples of the keyboards mentioned.

I've heard very good things about the Masterkeys Lite L combo. Never got around to trying it out myself though. https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-SGB-3040-KKMF1-US-MasterKeys-Keyboard/dp/B01KBXKMM6

Cooler Master MasterKeys Lite L Gaming Keyboard and Mouse Combo, Mem-chanical Switches and Zoned Brilliant RGB LED lighting (SGB-3040-KKMF1-US) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KBXKMM6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_xKx9ybVH6P5S9

Great keyboard, i use it my fiancee uses one, the rgb customizable one is 39.99 the regular single color boards are 25 and all come with a mouse that matches.

I believe the Coolermaster MasterKeys Lite is a pretty good combo. It has RBG so you can just set it to red if you like. HardwareCanucks just did a video on it.

https://www.amazon.com/MasterKeys-Keyboard-Mem-chanical-Switches-Brilliant/dp/B01KBXKMM6/ref=sr_1_1?tag=hardwar0d-20&ie=UTF8&qid=1472065080&sr=8-1&keywords=MASTERKEYS+LITE+L+COMBO

IMO this is a sweet deal if you're looking for budget. Memchanical switches are a lot nicer than a standard membrane keyboard.

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Mem-chanical-SGB-3040-KKMF1-US/dp/B01KBXKMM6

I'm not sure which one of these to choose as they all seem to fit my requirements:

• Budget: max of $100
  
• Full Keyboard
  
• It's for gaming, so something close to Cherry MX Brown?
  
• basic backlight is fine
  
  It'd be my first mechanical keyboard and I want to know between these keyboards which one would be the better one considering the brand and the quality
  
  ^^^Links ^^^are ^^^of ^^^Amazon ^^^Mexico ^^^since ^^^I ^^^live ^^^there
  
  
• G. Skill RIP JAWS KM570 Seems to be alright, however I'm not sure of the brand being quality
  
  
• Hyper X hx-kb1bl1-na/A1 I have one of their headsets and they seem to be quality, but they also seem overly expensive; other than that it fits my requirements
  
  
• Logitech G413 Prodigy Seems to be alright as well, but it's using it's own switches apparently and isk how good they are
  
  
• Cooler Master MasterKeys Lite L Combo Quality company I believe, it includes a mouse which I could use since my current one is off-brand and it's half my budget. But the switches are "mem-chanical"? so it's not fully mechanical? what are your thoughts on this?, would it good to save up a bit more for a better one and get this in the meantime to get used to mechanical?
  
  I'd love to hear your opinions. Thanks for reading

Well, i think i saw some masterkeys with white led (non mechanical) that went for about $30, but it was on brazil so im not sure if you can find it on your usual sellers there. It was the masterkeys lite if im not mistaken. You can always buy the rgb version of a keyboard aswell and tune the lights to make it white. And for about $70 you can get the compact version of the corsair k66, it is a mechanical keyboard with cherry mx red but it has no backlight at all. I know its a little off budget, but its all i can find right now on mobile. I saw some cougar keyboard on amazon for $70 and it had white leda, but i dont know about the brand tho.

Cougar one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077X93B7M/ref=sspa_mw_detail_3?psc=1

Coesair k66: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B072LTTNVS/ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmr2_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520393610&sr=8-1-fkmr2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=corsair%2Bvengeance%2Bk65%2Bcompact%2Bmechanical%2Bgaming%2Bkeyboard&th=1&psc=1

Masterkeys lite (rgb) : https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01KBXKMM6/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520394077&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Masterkeys&dpPl=1&dpID=51Bxna2wD7L&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1

I only found the CM one bundled with the mouse on amazon. Hope i helped a little bit, and good luck finding your keyboard.
Also, this was all done on mobile, so there will be mistakes :D

$50 is kinda tight, my mouse alone costs more than that. But maybe check this out: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Devastator-Keyboard-SGB-3031-KKMF1-US/dp/B01KBXKMM6/

MasterKeys Lite from Cooler Master. They use mem-chanical switches that are supposed to have a decent tactile response. Should be a great starter.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01KBXKMM6/ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1517807013&sr=8-1-fkmr1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=cool+master+rgb+keyboard

This is the best quality you'll get for $50

I was looking at a CoolerMaster set for about 50 dollars which would be 200 total ( just mouse and kb) either the devastator 2 https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01CDYAGSG/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1525473658&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=coolermaster+keyboard&dpPl=1&dpID=51SkGFH%2BpSL&ref=plSrch or this https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01KBXKMM6/ref=mp_s_a_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1525473621&sr=8-11&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=coolermaster

I use a Windows 10 specific air mouse for mine.

https://www.amazon.com/W10-GYRO-Keyboard-Controller-Learning/dp/B078NT49MJ/ref=sr_1_16?keywords=air+mouse+remote&qid=1564480194&s=gateway&sr=8-16

It's nice because it has all of the common Windows functions as buttons, and you can also program it to control your tv.

I'd love to use the Logitech K400 but I want something my parents are a bit more familiar with. They're used to remote controllers. I really like the look of this https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B078NT49MJ/?coliid=I1KR7H7S9BO1IR&colid=3HM9AHB2G6NXV&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

But my main problem is what software to use it with.

Thank you very much for your comment!
It took me on a trip to understand how air mouses work and if I should consider one instead of a trackball.


After searching for a decent enough I found this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078NT49MJ/ref=as_li_ss_tl?tag=robejorg-20&ie=UTF8&linkCode=sl1&linkId=726c3a5dd1eec5972aa5cff5ee93e523


Which can also control the TV with IR. which is awesome for me.

Unfortunately I seem to have lost some of my WIP notes for it :/ If you can hang on a few days I can recreate my notes. (EDIT): Notes: https://hastebin.com/raw/itumoriwiw

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I can tell you that there are a bunch of buttons that 'almost work' out of the box if you're using Kodi, but not quite. The setup is usable, but not everything is mapped wonderfully. The Volume buttons map to the standard system volume control (not Kodi's). The Show Desktop button works. The air mouse features work. But A lot of the top buttons are windows specific, for example 'explorer' sends a Win+E.

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I also use a NUC :)

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Quick notes on key remapping: you can use built in kernel features to remap single button presses, like here where I disabled the remote's power buttons:

tvbox-auto# cat /etc/udev/hwdb.d/90-pepperjobs-w10-gyro-remote.hwdb

Pepper Jobs Remote - "W10 GYRO W10 GYRO" - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078NT49MJ ; https://fccid.io/2AOG7-W10GYRO

evdev:input:b0003v0A45p0004*<br />
 KEYBOARD_KEY_10081=reserved # Power Button: General Desktop - System Power Down<br />
 KEYBOARD_KEY_10082=reserved # Power Button: General Desktop - System Sleep<br />

Unfortunately as this remote sends stuff like Win+E, that's two separate buttons and needs a smarter approach (the program I haven't written yet that I alluded to).

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Also valuable is a config for the OSMC remote:

tvbox-auto# cat /etc/udev/hwdb.d/50-osmc-remote.hwdb

OSMC Remote - "OSMC Remote Controller USB Keyboard Mouse"

evdev:input:b0003v2017p1688*<br />
  KEYBOARD_KEY_7004a=homepage<br />
#  KEYBOARD_KEY_7000c=props      # X11: SunProps<br />
  KEYBOARD_KEY_7000c=question      # X11: SunProps<br />
#  KEYBOARD_KEY_70006=menu      # No default bindings, don't use<br />
  KEYBOARD_KEY_70006=compose    # Same as Menu on keyboard in X11<br />
  KEYBOARD_KEY_7002d=volumedown<br />
  KEYBOARD_KEY_7002e=volumeup<br />
  KEYBOARD_KEY_c0226=stopcd<br />
# Scancodes:<br />
# 7004a=Home<br />
# 7000c=Info<br />
# 7004f=Right<br />
# 70050=Left<br />
# 70051=Down<br />
# 70052=Up<br />
# 70028=Ok/Enter<br />
# 70006=Hamburger menu<br />
# 7002d=Volume Down<br />
# 7002e=Volume Up<br />
#<br />
# c0224=back<br />
# c00cd=playpause<br />
# c0226=stop<br />
#<br />
#Home emits KEY_HOMEPAGE - 'AC Home'

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

I assume you're taking the time to have a dialogue with me, because i'm pretty much the only one here who hasn't called you a name, implied that you're insane, or mentally deficient, or been overly rude to you....thanks, i appreciate that. I love a good conversation, especially when it involves solving a problem.

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One thing you could do, is set up a sub-account, specifically for your kids, with all the parental options set up the way you want them. I'm assuming you haven't done this yet. If you have, then i shall move on to my next idea..

You could pick up something like this, and stash it in a drawer, or somewhere up high, away from destructive hands..

https://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Touchpad-Control/dp/B00I5SW8MC?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_2

I don't know, maybe? But I'd suggest getting this keyboard.

I tried a couple of alternatives - like this Rii tiny keyboard but it sucked.

The hand held remote that came with my mini PC was IR and required line of sight.

The best remote to get around that is one of the remote apps you can download on your smart phone. Those work off your wifi and don't require line of sight.

Overall, the 400 is still my preferred choice - it's very responsive and despite its larger size compared to a hand held, having a good keyboard for searches is great. The mousepad is very responsive.

I have one of these. As far as I can tell it is the same product with different branding. I love it, we use it with an android box for all of our TV watching. It has about a 50 ft range with LoS. In our house I have tested it through 2 walls, but signal drops off quickly after that. I charge the battery once every 3-4 weeks. The only things I have against mine are that the touch pad is not very sensitive and it defaults to the lowest sensitivity every time you turn it off. Also about once a week it will lose communication and I have to unplug the dongle and plug it back in.

If you don't mind spending a little money. I find the little keyboard remote controls to be super useful for this purpose.

https://www.amazon.com/Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Rechargable-Battery-Black/dp/B00Z81U3YY




I have something like this, although I have not used it for trying to play xcom from the coach.

Would it be possible just to get a little Bluetooth keyboard?


I have something similar to this:
https://www.amazon.com/Upgraded-Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Raspberry/dp/B00Z81U3YY/ref=pd_cp_147_2/147-2183315-8238458?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00Z81U3YY&pd_rd_r=b4ca5c3a-b050-4ead-be85-c072d4bab580&pd_rd_w=9B9sT&pd_rd_wg=kywmM&pf_rd_p=0e5324e1-c848-4872-bbd5-5be6baedf80e&pf_rd_r=S3WWQ02CKJYSJEY9E19Y&psc=1&refRID=S3WWQ02CKJYSJEY9E19Y

The febite mx3 pro can do IR on the power button as well as the bottom 4 colored buttons. I'm using it with a raspberry pi3 running libreelec and have the power button turn on/off the tv since the pi is the only thing plugged in and it stays on all the time. I programmed the bottom 4 for input switching, mute and vol +/- but I just have the tv turned up loud enough that I'm using the volume control within kodi via the vol +/- on the remote and haven't needed the bottom 4. I think there's a few minor variations on those air mouse type remotes, the one I got is at https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015O5UM6M

what about this one? https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Devastator-II-SGB-3030-KKMF1-US/dp/B01KBXKMM6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1494963923&sr=8-2&keywords=cm%2Bstorm&th=1
and this one might not be mechanical but do you think its atleast a good buy? its really cheap and looks decent -https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K502-Keyboard-Switchable-Backlight/dp/B00LSGKEC4/ref=sr_1_16?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1494964252&sr=1-16&keywords=mechanical+keyboard+red+led

I have the pepper jobs w10. Its amazing for windows, not sure about shield.

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https://www.amazon.com/W10-GYRO-Keyboard-Controller-Learning/dp/B078NT49MJ

Maybe a keyboard like this would fit your aesthetic.

Keyboard and mouse bundle on amazon sells for around $15. It's pretty nice for the price and it's not being used for like hours of typing or anything crazy so I think this one if perfect for the Pi. But, if you're not willing to spend extra money on your Pi, you can use ssh.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B7GV802/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_FIfCybP6TFCGN

> it also doesn't have a blu ray drive ($50).

Sure, but how many people are even buying blu rays? If you use it, again, sure, good deal, but majority of people don't.

>Also missing a keyboard/mouse which for comparison sake should be of equal quality to a PS4 controller ($50).

Try $15 https://smile.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Wired-Keyboard-Mouse-Bundle/dp/B00B7GV802/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1509673563&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=mouse+keyboard&psc=1

>PS+ membership will give you a great online service

I always heard that downloads are extremely slow compared to steam

>almost guarantee no hackers

LOL, please be joking https://www.troyhunt.com/brief-sony-password-analysis/ nvm, you mean hackers in game? Like cheaters? I can't really comment on that, idk what its like on consoles.

>gives you 120 free games

Doesn't really mean too much tbh. Also, while not as many, steam and other similar platforms give away good games too.

Macros are only used in SMITE for VET (Taunt) or VEL (Laugh), any macro that is used for abilities is a bannable offense, hence why no one does it.

There aren't many disadvantages, actually. The only key disadvantage is being unable to turn quickly with a controller, but even then Hi-Rez is going to add KB/M support for players on Xbox who wish to eliminate this oh so horrible disadvantage.

You're taking something great and crushing it, turning it into something negative. Crossplatform is a great thing, and it provides many opportunities for Hi-Rez and also helps grow the playerbase as a whole.


Also just an FYI, a cheap KB/M combo from a market called Walmart costs like 15 dollars. Which can be found here, its a Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Mouse. Please, do not act like getting a Keyboard and Mouse is hard, when in reality it is not. Here, have an amazon link as well. Wired KB/M combo

Edit: Also the option can be enabled, or disabled.

>So? And when you build a pc you'll have to buy a decent keyboard + mouse which will also cost atleast $55-60 (If you get a relatively cheap one)

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Combo-MK270-Keyboard/dp/B00BP5KOPA/ref=lp_1194464_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1417762955&sr=1-1

>and if you'd want those games they would cost the same on pc too. Yeah you can buy older games on the pc but that doesnt make the games "cheaper", because they cause the same on both.

Remember that $10-15 charge from Microsoft and sony? It doesnt exist on PC. Borderlands TPS is $40 right now, Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor went on sale for $30 last week, and some other deals. They do not cost the same, and there are far more and better games to play on PC anyway.

>Oh, you mean the red ring of death, the rare issue that only happened to 1 version of a console in history?

"Worldwide 78.2 million units [6] as of September 30, 2013[7" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_sales

>Please explain to me what would happen to a hard-working pc without the proper cooling.

The processor would probably be the thing heating up excessively (which they almost never do, especially if you arent overclocking), and it would reduce it's voltage to get the temperatures back down, or force shutdown if it couldnt regulate it's temperature.

>Hint: it would fail too, and you'd have to throw it out if the motherboard or cpu get fried.

It's kind of hard to fry things. Ive seen people try to destroy their computers via overclocking and the PC will read out over 300 degrees before it shuts down, and it will still boot up about 5mins later. It would not fail because there are lots of failsafes on much more expensive processors. What really kills the Xbox is that it uses an APU, where the GPU and CPU are on the same chip. This concentrates all of the heat into one very small spot and if there's ever an issue it becomes a huge issue.

>PS: The correct reason to play on a console: Opinion and personal preference.

Please explain what the opinion is and why someone might prefer it.

Get this: http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Keyboard-Edition/dp/B00DKXXAAQ

You can get it at Fry's electronics too.

You didn't list your budget, but since you said you have a Lycosa, I'm going to assume you know what it feels like to throw money at a keyboard.

Gaming keyboards (well, keyboards in general) can range from very budget friendly, to ridiculous.

Sticking with Razer and going for a more "solid" feel, the new Blackwidow line with the Razer custom switches may be what you're looking for. The versions with the Razer orange switches may be quiet enough that your roommate won't mind. The Blackwidow Ultimate Stealth has all the lights and other bells and whistles. The Logitech G710+ should feel and sound about the same.

If you want to dump the mechanical switch types all together, the Logitech G19 and the Corsair K50 are all-around good boards, but they'll have the same feel and heft of your Lycosa.

Your most solid built keyboards are going to be the mechanical ones - if even for the simple fact that the 104+ individual Cherry switches will weigh more than a single sheet of rubber membrane. If you get the chance, I'd suggest trying out a brown, red, or black Cherry switch. They don't have the telltale click, but if you're a key-basher, they can still be loud. If you find you hate'em or they're too loud, there's not too many membrane keyboards that have the "tanky" feeling of a mech. You might already be at the top of the heap with the Lycosa.

Get it in whatever LED you like, all under 30 USD

http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1418507177&sr=1-1&keywords=cm+storm+devastator&pebp=1418507184082

Can you plug a PC into a TV? yes or no?

I have mine plugged into one and it's great.

Ah shame my build doesn't leave enough left over for a $10 kb/m... oh wait it does.

You are being ridiculous.

http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Wired-Keyboard-Mouse-Bundle/dp/B00B7GV802/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1426009923&sr=8-4&keywords=keyboard+and+mouse

$13 Keyboard and mouse...

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Wired-Keyboard-Mouse-Bundle/dp/B00B7GV802&ved=2ahUKEwirg_fQsuXaAhWl5oMKHXgyBlgQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw3Q9yW8DkJd9VcPiisAnFhl

Air mouse is the best

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00B9996LA/ref=mp_s_a_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1473356540&sr=8-10&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=air+mouse

Thank you for the reply. I have the following usb air mouse which works great in Android tv and in the app, except it doesn't work to click on this button which was designed for a touch screen press...

[Updated] FeBite MX3 Pro 2.4G Kodi Remote with Backlit Mini Wireless Keyboard Mouse Air Control for Android Smart TV Box IPTV HTPC Mini PC Compatible https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015O5UM6M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_Ab5Mg8fdytGMb

This is what I use with my 50 inch tv https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Keyboard-Mouse-Combo/dp/B00BP5KOPA

Well there is this, though it's a combo deal:
http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Devastator-Keyboard-Edition/dp/B00DKXXAAQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1407907447&sr=8-3&keywords=mechanical+keyboard
Then there is also this one for $40:
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Gaming-Keyboard-Raptor-K30/dp/B00F0DCH9Y/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1407907447&sr=8-9&keywords=mechanical+keyboard
And this one: http://www.amazon.com/Perixx-PX-1000-Backlit-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B0083AWDP4/ref=sr_1_28?ie=UTF8&qid=1407907607&sr=8-28&keywords=mechanical+keyboard

Mostly I say $30 because the last time I shopped around for one I got a wireless board and mouse for $30 and that's just the price I remember. I see that most of them are still more than that.

Its not cheap, but if you don't have one of these yet for your steam link. I highly recommend it and the USB dongle holster is a bonus!